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Horse
04-16-2015, 06:05 AM
Maybe Pop really wanted the clippers or for whatever reason didn't want dallas. But he coached to lose. Barely calling a timeout in the first half while the pels were blowing us out, he never got T'd up, sticking with belli and manu who were awful while green sat on the bench, we needed D the offense was fine shooting 57%. I don't care what anyone says he did not coach like he gave a shit.
Outlier
04-16-2015, 06:14 AM
I was def. expecting Pop to treat it like a playoff game and quickly call timeouts whenever the team made mistakes... Maybe he didn't want to give his team a vibe that if they lost, they tried their best. Instead, they'll live with whatever result happened tonight. Duncan didn't even seem phased.
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-16-2015, 07:07 AM
Clippers are a better matchup than the Mavs. Rivers hasn't figured out Pop's system yet, Carlisle has. Clippers won against the Spurs when they were injured and in a funk. When the Spurs are healthy, they are the better team.
This team doesn't need HCA, though it would be nice. I still believe, the only team they need HCA against was OKC, a healthy OKC team. Any other team, they can beat soundly on their home floor. Just look to the OKC and then Miami series last year. Honestly, Spurs can do what they did to the Heat to any team in this playoffs.
Fireball
04-16-2015, 07:21 AM
Any other team, they can beat soundly on their home floor. Just look to the OKC and then Miami series last year. Honestly, Spurs can do what they did to the Heat to any team in this playoffs.
I am a little fed up with this talk that the Spurs showed last season they can win on the road. But it is much easier to win a road game with a 2:0, 2:1 or 3:1 lead in a series, because the pressure is on the trailing team. Bottom line is the Spurs are not a good road team this season and the playoff path is even more difficult this time, because the Clips are good, Rockets/Mavs are dangerous and Golden State with HCA ... whew.
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-16-2015, 07:28 AM
I am a little fed up with this talk that the Spurs showed last season they can win on the road. But it is much easier to win a road game with a 2:0, 2:1 or 3:1 lead in a series, because the pressure is on the trailing team. Bottom line is the Spurs are not a good road team this season and the playoff path is even more difficult this time, because the Clips are good, Rockets/Mavs are dangerous and Golden State with HCA ... whew.
No, the Spurs have won more playoff games and regular season games on the road than any team in the NBA over the past 2 1/2 years. Spurs had a horrible road record early this season because of the injury bug that hit them in mid-season (mid Dec to Feb). Pressure is on every game to win every game when it comes to the playoffs. Spurs were tied 1:1 to the Heat. All the pressure was on them last year.
therealtruth
04-16-2015, 07:35 AM
He had to save Monty Williams and Demps job. They had a mandate to make the playoffs this season.
The Reckoning
04-16-2015, 08:16 AM
Carlisle figured out to just keep their D at home and not run all over the court chasing passes....
MultiTroll
04-16-2015, 08:30 AM
He had to save Monty Williams and Demps job. They had a mandate to make the playoffs this season.
What's all this noise about Popped saving Monty Williams job?
What is Pops connection to Monty?
Brazil
04-16-2015, 08:46 AM
What's all this noise about Popped saving Monty Williams job?
What is Pops connection to Monty?
:lol
you new or something ?
MultiTroll
04-16-2015, 09:13 AM
:lol
you new or something ?
Didn't see it.
Was it on a thread that got posted to death with SpursTalk troll?
Oh that would be 98% of all threads.
No i don't recall. Whats the goods on Popped - Monty?
Brazil
04-16-2015, 09:20 AM
Didn't see it.
Was it on a thread that got posted to death with SpursTalk troll?
Oh that would be 98% of all threads.
No i don't recall. Whats the goods on Popped - Monty?
Monty played for the Spurs, started his coaching under Pop's management, he is considered as one of member of Spurs sphere of influence
word is Pop gave up this game so that one of his favorite makes the PO
MultiTroll
04-16-2015, 09:26 AM
word is Pop gave up this game so that one of his favorite makes the PO
So the joke is CIA Popped threw the game so Monty would have a better chance?
Tee Hee.
Pauleta14
04-16-2015, 09:30 AM
Maybe Pop really wanted the clippers or for whatever reason didn't want dallas. But he coached to lose. Barely calling a timeout in the first half while the pels were blowing us out, he never got T'd up, sticking with belli and manu who were awful while green sat on the bench, we needed D the offense was fine shooting 57%. I don't care what anyone says he did not coach like he gave a shit.
I can't help but think about that, as paranoid as it sounds...
Between the 1st qt and the hacking that stoped our momentum, his coaching was weird...
Brazil
04-16-2015, 09:31 AM
So the joke is CIA Popped threw the game so Monty would have a better chance?
Tee Hee.
so the joke is indeed Pop let Monty win so he can make the POs and keep his job
xellos88330
04-16-2015, 09:32 AM
I think Pop was just trolling OKC. You know he is still bitter about 2012.
kobyz
04-16-2015, 09:33 AM
Pop is also good friend with Rivers...
kaji157
04-16-2015, 09:38 AM
I donīt know about that, but given how weīve played this year it seems to me that the team suffers a lot when we focus our offense on parker than when we focus our offense on leonard.
Is there a way to look up the spurs record when Parker gets more shot attempts than Kawhi and the other way around?
It would be interesting to check that out.
About this game it looked that Pop didnīt want to show his cards so that no scouter could take a lot out of the game, the problem is it wasnīt enough to win it.
Bad coaching by pop lost the game for sure, and the Spurs really have a lot of trouble containing teams with good bigs without Splitter.
mingus
04-16-2015, 09:48 AM
Clippers are the better matchup IMO. Their defense is shit. They're a treadmill team and that shit doesn't work in the Playoffs. Even without Splitter at full strength (or at all) I like the Spurs' chances. Green/Leonard duo is going to hound the hell out Paul, make this series extremely difficult. Diaw is an underrated defender, he'll keep up with Griffin as long as its not a fastbreak. Baynes--throw him into the fire. Doubt he's mobile enough to keep up with Griffin, but Banger can/will IMO get under the skin of Griffin/Jordan with his muscle. If we have to, throw KL on Griffin and have Green/Cojo on CP3.
One the other end, who stops TP (aside from himself, and if he's ready to go)? That's always been their problem. Parker kills them, igniting our offense. Then it turns into a slugfest, and they just can't keep up. Now throw in KL--they've got nobody to guard him.
Clipps have to hope TP stops himself (granted he done a lot of that this season, worrisome) and that Griffin goes off without Splitter. I don't see either happening for enough of a series.
Mugen
04-16-2015, 09:52 AM
Sometimes, Pop is just dumb AF tbh. No CIA reasoning behind it.
Russo21
04-16-2015, 11:30 AM
Champions can't be afraid of facing any team. You just gotta beat whoever gets in your way. The west is a mind-field anyway, every freaking first round series will be tough. Always good to get a loss before the playoffs start instead of entering on a big winning streak, aka 2012. 9-1 in the last 10. Buckle up, it's gonna be an awesome ride. There is more pressure on the Clips in game 1 to maintain home court advantage. We got this. Hack-a-Jordan coming soon to a tv screen near you.
Russo21
04-16-2015, 11:35 AM
:flag:
TDomination
04-16-2015, 11:42 AM
He didn't want a winning streak going into the playoffs. Got that loss out of the way now
BOHOLANO#21
04-16-2015, 11:53 AM
I noticed that shit too...Green sitting on the bench with no defense Bellinelli getting some minutes! SMH
Horse
04-16-2015, 12:23 PM
Well whatever the reason guess it's best to just trust him hopefully he knew what he was doing.
Mr Bones
04-16-2015, 12:27 PM
It's hard to argue with the Spurs finishing the season 11-1. It's kind of like saying if they had finished 12-0, that would mean Pop is a good coach, but since they finished 11-1, that's proof that he's not...
Splits
04-16-2015, 12:29 PM
Remember the last time we entered the PO on a double-digit win streak?
Nathan89
04-16-2015, 12:37 PM
Perhaps doesn't want to let Carlisle put together a great strategy that other teams will then attempt. Perhaps just stupid decision making. Belinelli shouldn't have been playing if he wanted the Spurs to win.
FlAVaK
04-16-2015, 12:41 PM
I think Pop was just trolling OKC. You know he is still bitter about 2012.
Remember the last time we entered the PO on a double-digit win streak?
Agloco
04-16-2015, 12:44 PM
.......... and the hacking that stoped our momentum, his coaching was weird...
This. The Spurs were trimming the lead down then we start hacking Asik. It killed any flow we might have had.
boutons_deux
04-16-2015, 01:30 PM
Spurs looked very non-chalant about the loss. For some reason, they really, really didn't care about losing HCA in 1st and 2nd rounds.
ElNono
04-16-2015, 01:32 PM
What's all this noise about Popped saving Monty Williams job?
What is Pops connection to Monty?
Monty was a Spurs' assistant coach in the 2005 team. He actually has a Spurs championship ring.
Horry Hipcheck
04-16-2015, 01:43 PM
After all these years of Pop's CIA tactics and questionable motivations, I've grown out of bitching when he does something that isn't in the best interest of me, the fan. He's been out coached a couple of times in his career and his players have been outplayed before. More often than not, he's doing something deliberately. I don't claim to know his reasoning behind giving the 2 seed away, my only guess is that he saw the team crushing everyone and wanted a reminder of their mortality, 2012 wasn't that long ago. But that's just fan speculation.
Budkin
04-16-2015, 01:44 PM
Spurs looked very non-chalant about the loss. For some reason, they really, really didn't care about losing HCA in 1st and 2nd rounds.
Seriously. Tim looked downright happy after the loss. WTF?
Didn't only move from the 2nd to the 6th seed, but also from the 28th to the 24th pick in the draft. Also effectively allowed the Thunder to move from 18th to 14th.
wildchild
04-16-2015, 02:51 PM
the spurs record when Parker gets more shot attempts than Kawhi and the other way around?
It would be interesting to check that out.
Seeing only the ppg, the Spurs are 27-4 87% when Kawhi scores 18+points, 13% more than Tony 17-6 73.9%
therealtruth
04-16-2015, 07:07 PM
Sometimes, Pop is just dumb AF tbh. No CIA reasoning behind it.
1. Pop saved Monty's job
2. He's said before he doesn't like big winning streaks going into the playoffs.
So to put it simply he wouldn't have had a problem with them losing the game.
james evans
04-16-2015, 08:20 PM
:lol
you new or something ?
must be
21209
04-17-2015, 06:28 AM
The Pelicans always play the Spurs tough and they're especially tough when they have all their guys back.
The Pelicans blitzed the Spurs in the 1st quarter and that was the ballgame.
I can't believe the Pels get no credit for winning this game.
Maddog
04-17-2015, 07:16 AM
The Pelicans always play the Spurs tough and they're especially tough when they have all their guys back.
The Pelicans blitzed the Spurs in the 1st quarter and that was the ballgame.
I can't believe the Pels get no credit for winning this game.
After some time cooling off- I think there is a lot of truth in this. Prior to this game the Spurs where 1-2 versus the Pelicans. The only win was a crazy tip in by Tim to put the game in OT.
Also the Spurs went 21 and 4 to end the season. By my estimate, they have had maybe 3 or 4 bad games during that stretch. Too bad it wasn't enough, but hey, the injuries and early post championship hangover dug them into a hole.
Looking on the bright side- they are playing well at the right time- no streak heading in
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
04-17-2015, 07:16 AM
The Pelicans always play the Spurs tough and they're especially tough when they have all their guys back.
The Pelicans blitzed the Spurs in the 1st quarter and that was the ballgame.
I can't believe the Pels get no credit for winning this game.
It's not that. Its him taking out Mills when he was red hot and leading the Spurs comeback. It was him leaving Beli out there and benching Green when there was a clear mismatch. It was him going to hack-a-Asik with no reason to as the Spurs had the momentum and it completely killed it. I give credit to NO for winning the game.
It's just at the same time it appears to me, obviously a lot of people, that Pop didn't care about winning this game as well.
mkurts
04-17-2015, 07:32 AM
The repeat is guaranteed, so Pop does not care.
21209
04-17-2015, 08:25 AM
It's not that. Its him taking out Mills when he was red hot and leading the Spurs comeback. It was him leaving Beli out there and benching Green when there was a clear mismatch. It was him going to hack-a-Asik with no reason to as the Spurs had the momentum and it completely killed it. I give credit to NO for winning the game.
It's just at the same time it appears to me, obviously a lot of people, that Pop didn't care about winning this game as well.
Mills' minutes have been down quite a bit lately , and Pop usually doesn't play him in the first half while Joseph has been getting the PT when Tony is resting.
I thought it was suspicious as well, but TP was playing well offensively up to that point, so he was re-inserted in favor of Patty.
Manu was pathetic. I wish Pop would have given Patty the burn and sat out Manu. It seemed like whenever Manu was in the game, the Pelicans made their runs.
Budkin
04-17-2015, 08:58 AM
Mills' minutes have been down quite a bit lately , and Pop usually doesn't play him in the first half while Joseph has been getting the PT when Tony is resting.
I thought it was suspicious as well, but TP was playing well offensively up to that point, so he was re-inserted in favor of Patty.
Manu was pathetic. I wish Pop would have given Patty the burn and sat out Manu. It seemed like whenever Manu was in the game, the Pelicans made their runs.
The worst was when Manu cut straight down the lane and the ball literally just flew out of his hands and out of bounds.
kaji157
04-17-2015, 09:07 AM
Seeing only the ppg, the Spurs are 27-4 87% when Kawhi scores 18+points, 13% more than Tony 17-6 73.9%
Thank you wildchild.
That data is usefull, but i was looking more as focusing the offense on one or another other than individual performance.
But anyways itīs interesting to see that Kawhi is right now the best choice for N1 option in terms of team efficiency.
Blake
04-17-2015, 09:40 AM
Pop wanted the 6 seed.
Horse
04-17-2015, 12:31 PM
By all means give the pels their credit but we know Pop coaches a lot different when he really wants to win.
Blake
04-17-2015, 01:26 PM
By all means give the pels their credit but we know Pop coaches a lot different when he really wants to win.
You mean like make Danny score more than zero points?
TampaDude
04-17-2015, 01:48 PM
TBH, the Clips are a much better matchup for us than the Mavs, even if we have to go on the road. There's no real difference between the 2nd and 6th seed as far as record...the West is that tight this season...and we let the Rox and Mavs beat each other up in the first round.
Face it, folks. If we can't beat the Clippers without HCA, then there's no way in hell we're beating the Warriors without HCA.
GO SPURS GO!!!!!
Horry Hipcheck
04-17-2015, 03:00 PM
TBH, the Clips are a much better matchup for us than the Mavs, even if we have to go on the road. There's no real difference between the 2nd and 6th seed as far as record...the West is that tight this season...and we let the Rox and Mavs beat each other up in the first round.
Face it, folks. If we can't beat the Clippers without HCA, then there's no way in hell we're beating the Warriors without HCA.
GO SPURS GO!!!!!
About sums it up for me. Pop clearly didn't care about beating the Pels, NO obviously had tremendous incentive to win. The Spurs' path to GSW was going to be Mavs-Clippers, and I suppose he thought Dallas and Houston could beat the shit out of each other for us while getting a more favorable matchup in LA. Obviously, no HCA is a tough obstacle to overcome but this is just the way of the west this year. The Spurs can win in LA and Houston.
Rob123
04-17-2015, 03:06 PM
I think it's pretty clear Pop gambled he seems like he plays percentages a lot. He knew he wanted the pelicans in 8 so they could test the warriors and there was a pretty good chance the grizzlies lost to the pacers who were fighting to extend their season which would have put the Spurs against their easiest match up Portland. But the Pacers shit the bed and now we play the clips who while more dangerous than the blazers are a much better match up for us then dallas.
TampaDude
04-17-2015, 04:12 PM
Don't forget we also fucked OKC out of the playoffs. :lol
spurs10
04-17-2015, 04:40 PM
Don't forget we also fucked OKC out of the playoffs. :lol The Black and Silver Lining!
Blake
04-17-2015, 05:36 PM
Don't forget we also fucked OKC out of the playoffs. :lol
to potentially luck out with a high lottery pick?
I'd rather they got in as an 8.
heyheymymy
04-17-2015, 09:15 PM
Even my girlfriend who is a pretty casual observer said pop tossed it on purpose with this weird knowing confidence. I believe it because it certainly had all the calling cards of C.I.A. pop, I just don't understand why. Wanted to fuck OKC? Wanted to dodge the streak before using a playoff game to do so with the magnified loss that comes with dropping a streak on a playoff game L. Maybe Silver made him do it-- if the Spurs are looking this good and have a 2 seed after wiping their ass with the regular season it makes the product look bad.
Spurs 4 The Win
04-17-2015, 09:22 PM
Even my girlfriend who is a pretty casual observer said pop tossed it on purpose with this weird knowing confidence. I believe it because it certainly had all the calling cards of C.I.A. pop, I just don't understand why. Wanted to fuck OKC? Wanted to dodge the streak before using a playoff game to do so with the magnified loss that comes with dropping a streak on a playoff game L. Maybe Silver made him do it-- if the Spurs are looking this good and have a 2 seed after wiping their ass with the regular season it makes the product look bad.
He wanted tow in but he didnt want to go all out, so we ended up with an 85% effort out of Pop and 100% out of the players but Pop just didnt put them in position to succeed
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