Game 2 adjustments thread.

[dynamodr3w]

Feels a lot like the warriors series. Shots def have to go in, turn overs have to stop, mills needs more minutes, and we have to do something about the griffin effect.

Just a thought..

[Drachen]

Stop playing like dogshit

[Malik Hairston]

Green obviously needs to make his shots, that's the most important thing for the Spurs, offensively..

Also, Tom Rivers' game plan was to double Kawhi in the post any time he has it, and the Spurs clearly weren't prepared for it..

[benstanfield]

Put your best defenders on the players they'll be most suited to guard. Doesn't seem like a hard concept.

Give Messina control of substitutions.

Send Cory back to Austin.

Maybe have Diaw as your third big and not Baynes.

IF ONE AND ONLY ONE OF YOUR PLAYERS IS FORCING THEIR DEFENSE TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM, MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HIM THE BALL WITH SHOOTERS AROUND HIM.

[benefactor]

Stop missing.

[RD2191]

Simple, bench Parker.

[Malik Hairston]

Defensively, Crawford won't shoot as well, nor will Barnes, but they'll need to adjust matchups on the perimeter..

I don't see anything they'll be able to do about Griffin, but I don't mind him trying to carry them..

[dabom]

Put your best defenders on the players they'll be most suited to guard. Doesn't seem like a hard concept.

Give Messina control of substitutions.

Send Cory back to Austin.

Maybe have Diaw as your third big and not Baynes.

IF ONE AND ONLY ONE OF YOUR PLAYERS IS FORCING THEIR DEFENSE TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM, MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HIM THE BALL WITH SHOOTERS AROUND HIM.

Nah lets keep tony and diaw on the 3 point line. :lmao

[ducks]

Green on cp3 say use all your energy on d forgot the o

[cantthinkofanything]

someone needs of step up an put some hard fouls on Paul.

[ChumpDumper]

Hope Splitter heals up. May have been mistake trying him out tonight.

[DPG21920]

Green obviously needs to make his shots, that's the most important thing for the Spurs, offensively..

Also, Tom Rivers' game plan was to double Kawhi in the post any time he has it, and the Spurs clearly weren't prepared for it..

Not just the doubling of Kawhi, but the trapping/near doubling of all ball handlers at top of the 3PT line as well. Spurs were ill-prepared for that level of aggression and even when they broke that down they made horrific decisions, turned it over, missed shots, missed FT's or missed around the rim.

[Horse]

GIVE A SHIT THAT IS ALL!

[davidbowie]

care

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Get crater face to stop being a stubborn old asshole and give all cojos minutes to patty

[phxspurfan]

Not just the doubling of Kawhi, but the trapping/near doubling of all ball handlers at top of the 3PT line as well. Spurs were ill-prepared for that level of aggression and even when they broke that down they made horrific decisions, turned it over, missed shots, missed FT's or missed around the rim.

Someone watched how Spo played the Spurs in the 2013 finals

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Spurs have been having some really terrible 1st quarters... both games vs Houston, the Nola game, and today. If anything I'd like to see them not give up 30 points in the 1st quarter. Just come out more ready.

[Holden_Caulfield]

just need splitter on blake and kawhi on paul

[SpursFan0728]

start ginoboli instead of green.
Kawahi on Paul, so more Patty>Cojo for offense

[ErnestLynch]

Well for one, you don't alter your shot for Jordan. You alter your place on the floor. You do that by moving, passing, and spreading the floor. More than once you saw one guy with the ball and the other 4 all bunched up. That's not the Spurs way. This as so bad it almost looked intentional. That or they just didn't care. Pop sure didn't. Terrible coaching job. Worst Spurs performance in the playoffs I've seen in a while. Mills goes in, starts making 3's and then Pop sits him. Baahh...this was a gift from Pop to Doc. No more, no less. We got this. That is, if we want it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Stop being scared little bitches.

Who cares if Deandre Jordan is there? You still have to attack.

Who cares if your shot just got blocked? That doesn't mean you retire from the league in the middle of the third quarter and leave what was your man--a top 6 point guard--wide the fuck open.

Adjustment? Stop being so soft.

[pgardn]

Gotta figure out how to get KL loose. The double is working on the baseline and there is no one open.

Make it a bit harder on CP.

Dont let Blake Griffin have a running start to the basket in half court.
Did anyone take a charge?

Get Splitter ready.

We really can't play worse than what we just witnessed.
Lets get this next one.

[SayTown]

Whats up with the rotations, did Pop figure this was going to be a loss and save the guys for a long series. 30 minutes for Duncan Leonard and Parker compared to 40 minutes for Paul Griffin and Jordan

[SpurSwag]

For starters, I kinda feel like the Clippers played just about as well as they can. They hit us with their best shot, and unfortunately we couldn't take it. In general, we have to play more composed. There were times we looked like a team that had made the playoffs for the first time, and Green especially looked pretty shook for some reason. It kinda felt like how some of the Dallas series last year felt to me, with the ball movement being really stymied. Idk I'm having a little trouble digesting that game, not really sure how to feel about it fully.

[crc21209]

Slow the fuck down and make good decisions. Everything seemed rushed and clunky and out of sorts. When Kawhi was doubled they rushed and didnt know what to do. Ball movement wasnt there. Pop's rotations were also all over the damn place.

[SpursFan86]

Hope Splitter heals up. May have been mistake trying him out tonight.

I think they're just trying to work him back up to a normal minutes load. Rather than try waiting until Game 3 to bring him back, they'll gradually bring him on over these first few games.

[Chomag]

Leave Parker on the team bus.

Ok maybe thats a bit to far but im really pissed at him right now.

[RD2191]

Leave Parker on the team bus.

Ok maybe thats a bit to far but im really pissed at him right now.

[baseline bum]

Pray for health for Shitter

[ducks]

More pissed on green

[ChumpDumper]

I think they're just trying to work him back up to a normal minutes load. Rather than try waiting until Game 3 to bring him back, they'll gradually bring him on over these first few games.I'm not sure. He really look like he was laboring out there.

[marinoman]

kawhi on paul is the main move
more patty
have kawhi ready for the post double team
more healthy splitter on griffen
FOR GODS SAKE FINISH AROUND THE BASKET, many times jordan wasnt even in the picture so I dont wanna hear that
Green make some wide open looks

[rasuo214]

Patty takes all of CoJo's minutes
Kawhi on CP3, Danny on Reddick, Parker on Barnes
If the Clippers are going to double Kawhi then run the offense through him.
Cut down on the turnovers
Make FTs

[ChumpDumper]

Really, make the bunnies and the FTs.

[Mugen]

Green obviously needs to make his shots, that's the most important thing for the Spurs, offensively..

Also, Tom Rivers' game plan was to double Kawhi in the post any time he has it, and the Spurs clearly weren't prepared for it..

:lol Which is mind boggling tbh. The most surprising thing from tonight was to see how much more prepared the Clippers were IMO.

[baseline bum]

Leave Parker on the team bus.

Ok maybe thats a bit to far but im really pissed at him right now.

This is just who Parker is. He can occasionally string together a couple of games in his old form, but he is way past his prime now.

[ErnestLynch]

Whats up with the rotations, did Pop figure this was going to be a loss and save the guys for a long series. 30 minutes for Duncan Leonard and Parker compared to 40 minutes for Paul Griffin and Jordan

Either he was experimenting or he's drinking before games. Mills wakes up, looks like we might be able to get back in it. Doc calls a time out, Pop sits Mills. Sorry Clippers fans, you've just been given a gift. Pops is better than that. Spurs are better than the Clippers and Pop is better than Doc Rivers. One of the worst benches in the league comes alive against you ? F'in please. No worries here. If that's the best they got, we got this. Because that was the Spurs at their worst.

[marinoman]

make some free throws too would be nice

[DPG21920]

Really, make the bunnies and the FTs.

That doesn't solve the defensive issues - leaving shooters, Griffin, CP3 going nuts. Spurs were not getting nearly as many good looks (they did get some) because of the PG/G play. They were flustered all night with being trapped and made some really poor decisions.

Making FT/Bunnies help obviously, but there were more issues than just that.

[ChumpDumper]

That doesn't solve the defensive issues - leaving shooters, Griffin, CP3 going nuts. Spurs were not getting nearly as many good looks (they did get some) because of the PG/G play. They were flustered all night with being trapped and made some really poor decisions.

Making FT/Bunnies help obviously, but there were more issues than just that.If those were made, it's close enough to be competitive in a road playoff game. Sure the other stuff needs to be worked on, but playoffs get ugly.

[Keepin' it real]

Yeah, watching Mills sit after he started catching fire was frustrating, but Pop will stick with his rotations. We all know this.

[Arc]

you can't ask parker to do the motion offense and play defense against one of the best PGs in the game. he's 32 years old, almost 33, and probably still suffering from lingering injuries.

pop refuses to put danny on cp3. that old fuck is gonna cost us this series if he continues to fuck this simple adjustment up. danny plays better offensively and defensively when he has a bigger task.

would pop's love for cojo end now? please? patty is light years better than cojo.

the team didn't play good tonight, but pop's rotations were ass and were the biggest reason we lost tonight.

[DPG21920]

If those were made, it's close enough to be competitive in a road playoff game. Sure the other stuff needs to be worked on, but playoffs get ugly.

Well sure, but close enough isn't good enough. You have to win to advance. Even with made FT's and more bunnies going in, this type of engagement/execution wouldn't have been good enough. It just wouldn't.

[Lerojo]

Take smarter shots.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lock Cory Joseph in the Janitor's room and "lose" the keys

[ChumpDumper]

Well sure, but close enough isn't good enough. You have to win to advance. Even with made FT's and more bunnies going in, this type of engagement/execution wouldn't have been good enough. It just wouldn't.Maybe it would have. Playoffs are ugly.

[SayTown]

Either he was experimenting or he's drinking before games. Mills wakes up, looks like we might be able to get back in it. Doc calls a time out, Pop sits Mills. Sorry Clippers fans, you've just been given a gift. Pops is better than that. Spurs are better than the Clippers and Pop is better than Doc Rivers. One of the worst benches in the league comes alive against you ? F'in please. No worries here. If that's the best they got, we got this. Because that was the Spurs at their worst.

What Clippers bench, they didn't play much. The Clippers bench sucks but it doesnt matter they wont play much this series but if we get to a game 7 the Clippers starters will be tired as hell.

[UZER]

Put your best defenders on the players they'll be most suited to guard. Doesn't seem like a hard concept.

Give Messina control of substitutions.

Send Cory back to Austin.

Maybe have Diaw as your third big and not Baynes.

IF ONE AND ONLY ONE OF YOUR PLAYERS IS FORCING THEIR DEFENSE TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM, MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HIM THE BALL WITH SHOOTERS AROUND HIM.

Yes, m effing yes!

:lol no jumper Parker throwing the ball into him in the post.

[marinoman]

you can't ask parker to do the motion offense and play defense against one of the best PGs in the game. he's 32 years old, almost 33, and probably still suffering from lingering injuries.

pop refuses to put danny on cp3. that old fuck is gonna cost us this series if he continues to fuck this simple adjustment up. danny plays better offensively and defensively when he has a bigger task.

would pop's love for cojo end now? please? patty is light years better than cojo.

the team didn't play good tonight, but pop's rotations were ass and were the biggest reason we lost tonight.
he did late, small sample size but it didnt help, cp3 did whatever he wanted

[spurraider21]

- Can't have Diaw guarding Griffin for extended periods of time

- Green has to get back to doing Danny Green things on offense. less ball handling, more shooting. and better shooting

- Diaw has to hit wide open shots

- Parker has to play with more fire... he usually plays well against Chris Paul, was made his bitch tonight, and stalled the offense as a result

- They have to run more offense through Duncan, either in the low post, high post, or on the roll. he's shown he can score on Jordan (scored 30 on them in the last regular season matchup). it will also get their bigs some fouls and cause them to tone down their aggression

- Mills has to be the primary backup PG. Joseph is defensive minded, and that might be fine in certain matchups, but he's not going to slow CP3, realistically. so you basically have a below-average offensive player on one end, and a guy who can't make an impact defensively (if Paul is in the game).

- Splitter/Baynes need to be more physical. baynes missed some cupcakes at the rim

- The team needs to not play in complete fear of Jordan. this reminded me a lot of last year against OKC when Ibaka returned. i saw a lot of hot potato under the rim, everybody making a pass because they didn't want to go up with it

- manu/marco were overall ok, but if the team is stagnant offensively, we (fairly or not) rely on Manu to get us out of the funks. "ok" isn't going to be good enough from manu

- they're going to double Kawhi every time he backs his man down. he should anticipate the double and look to get rid of the ball sooner before getting trapped and being forced to throw a high-arching pass that gives the defense time to get reset.

[timtonymanu]

Play Patty.

I hate Beli but he could be useful in this series if Manu is struggling. Just don't give him Danny Green's minutes.

Splitter being healthy is the biggest adjustment our team needs. :lol tholdren

[DPG21920]

Maybe it would have. Playoffs are ugly.

That type of assesment isn't good enough to me. That seems like a cop out. When really watching this game & re-watching a few portions/possessions, there was way more wrong than making your FT's. Just simple math tells you if they made their normal % of FT's and their road 3PT % and a few of those bunnies, it wouldn't have made up the spread.

Hence, there is still a gap even with all of those things hypothetically added back into the score. How do you fill the gap? That's the disussion in this thread. That's the adjustments. Making FT's and bunnies isn't an adjustment. How you handle Kawhi getting doubled in the post is. How the ball handlers handle getting hedged on nearly every PnR with their bigs is an adjustment. How they handle defensive assignments is an adjustment.

I don't think they need major overhaul, but there are some definite concerns.

[spurraider21]

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[Arc]

he did late, small sample but it didnt help, cp3 did whatever he wanted

iirc, cp3 only scored once on green. green shuts quick little guards down. i don't know why, but he does.

[ErnestLynch]

Does anyone seriously think the Spurs will shoot 32% again ? Miss that many free throws ? F'in please. Spurs got this. I'm actually more confident now than I was before game one. We were actually looking like we were going to get back in that game, PLAYING TERRIBLE. Seriously, this is the Clippers, man. We own these assclowns and they know it. A game 2 loss wouldn't be the end of the world. We'll crush them in SA. Just have to win one on the road this series. That's all we need.

[ChumpDumper]

That type of assesment isn't good enough to me. Good for you.

[UZER]

I have a feeling the clippers blew their load tonight. Paul always starts like this, then fades at the end of the series.

[Arc]

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:lol omfg

[coachmac87]

Shoot better than 37%.

Hope they don't shoot 52%

Play Mills over CoJo

Make FT's

[DPG21920]

Good for you.

Thanks for your continued contribution to the topic. You have been a hero in defending TP. Now perhaps you will work your way to contributing to one of the few actual basketball discussions going on :tu

[marinoman]

iirc, cp3 only scored once on green. green shuts quick little guards down. i don't know why, but he does.

I gotta look again (I wont tbh) but it looked like he could easily lose him on screens

[PingPong]

Spurs played like dogshit and the Clippers didn't blow out. It's only the clippers kids.

[TheGreatYacht]

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Motherfuckers...

[cjw]

Hey, on the bright side Green may have cost himself some green this offseason!

[ElNono]

Pop didn't sound too worried. Simply said their defense played better than our offense. Mentioned Kawhi didn't handle well getting double-teamed.

Also mentioned transition D needing to get better.

[ErnestLynch]

Shoot better than 37%.

Hope they don't shoot 52%

Play Mills over CoJo

Make FT's

Exactly. Spurs won't shoot that bad again.

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for your continued contribution to the topic. You have been a hero in defending TP. Now perhaps you will work your way to contributing to one of the few actual basketball discussions going on :tuAlready did.

Make FTs and bunnies.

Hope Splitter gets well.

These will help more than anything else.

It's not like the Spurs are going to address your personal concerns, dude. You're a little delusional.

[Malik Hairston]

I gotta look again (I wont tbh) but it looked like he could easily lose him on screens

He did, but it was also with Duncan on the floor, which makes it impossible to defend the perimeter, tbh..

[gameFACE]

Spurs decision making will be better in Game 2. The Clips played a great game and the Spurs shit the bed. Ball movement, please.

[ElNono]

Tim saying the gameplan was ok, will adjust it, we couldn't hit shots and we need to be more consistent.

[DMC]

Put your best defenders on the players they'll be most suited to guard. Doesn't seem like a hard concept.

Give Messina control of substitutions.

Send Cory back to Austin.

Maybe have Diaw as your third big and not Baynes.

IF ONE AND ONLY ONE OF YOUR PLAYERS IS FORCING THEIR DEFENSE TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM, MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HIM THE BALL WITH SHOOTERS AROUND HIM.

Leonard doesn't pass well out of the double team. Tim Duncan had that same issue for a long time, now they don't double him. There's no more room under the radar for the Spurs, everyone knows what they do because so many other teams are doing it as well. You stop them by stopping a couple guys, Kawhi and Danny. Danny just has to be picked up as he crosses half court, and Leonard has to be swarmed when he touches the ball because he's not a great ball handler and isn't tall enough to see over the DT.

How the Spurs address that is small ball. They run the shit out of the tempo, keeping Chris Paul as the primary scorer for the Clippers and making Blake and Jordan run all over the place. Spurs are in the front court, they need to run small ball with Tony, Marco, Patty, Danny and Boris, and put KL in there now and again to spell one of them and get some steals.

Also, hit the free throws. You won't win many games shooting 50% from the FT line.

Hack-a-Jordan won't work if you cannot secure the rebound or if you turn the ball over at the other end of the floor. Still, I don't think employing it before the half is a good idea. You get your guys unnecessary fouls and the opponent is about to go into the lockerrooms anyhow, so they'll not have momentum regardless.

The problem I see is that Pop makes a mental assessment of their chances playing head to head and he doesn't see the Spurs as being where they need to be, so he does everything he can do to put his fingerprints on the game to alter it somehow. That's bad and good. It's bad because it writes the team off before they get a chance to win, and it's good because it shakes up what Pop sees as a losing situation otherwise. Not because of the game delaying, but when he started that in the 2nd quarter, that intentional fouling, I felt like Pop thought the game was over already, and that turned me off to the game. I didn't care if they lost after that. That sucks, but that's how it is.

[DPG21920]

Already did.

Make FTs and bunnies.

Hope Splitter gets well.

These will help more than anything else.

It's not like the Spurs are going to address your personal concerns, dude. You're a little delusional.

That's just a random internet throw away line. No one thinks what they type on here will be implemented by the actual Spurs. This is a Spurs board and this is a basketball discussion thread. Making FT's isnt an adjustment. That's just something every team tries to do. Requires no actual planning.

Not sure why you are more interested in arguing than contributing something of substance and random throw away lines?? It's the same value as the Parker bashing threads.

[Nathan89]

Simple, bench Parker.

Especially considering they double Kawhi every time he goes in the post. The offense needs to include whatever necessary for Kawhi to succeed. That's the only way we will succeed. You don't play a non-shooter next to someone that demands a double team.

[z0sa]

Hit free throws.

Play Patty Mills more.

Danny Green needs to shoot mid range jumpers if he gets ran off the line. If I was the coaching staff, Id tell him: Dont dribble more than twice and never ask for screens at all.

[benstanfield]

Parker/Green/Ginobili/Diaw a combined 11/44

Maybe call some plays to get some open looks. "Tony Dribble" isn't working.

[DMC]

Thanks for your continued contribution to the topic. You have been a hero in defending TP. Now perhaps you will work your way to contributing to one of the few actual basketball discussions going on :tu
I know you're a betting man and you do pretty well, but don't bet on this one.

[ChumpDumper]

That's just a random internet throw away line. No one thinks what they type on here will be implemented by the actual Spurs. This is a Spurs board and this is a basketball discussion thread. Making FT's isnt an adjustment. That's just something every team tries to do. Requires no actual planning.

Not sure why you are more interested in arguing than contributing something of substance and random throw away lines?? It's the same value as the Parker bashing threads.Who's arguing?

You're trying to pick a fight because I only listed the two main things I though would help the most. You aren't satisfied with my plan for game two. Well again -- good for you. I'm not here to please you, so quit being a bitch about it.

[ErnestLynch]

Pop didn't sound too worried. Simply said their defense played better than our offense. Mentioned Kawhi didn't handle well getting double-teamed.

Also mentioned transition D needing to get better. Code Words: 'We got this. I'll actually coach the next games.'

[-21-]

I'm just hoping one of Griffin, Paul, or Crawford come back down to earth.

[RD2191]

Especially considering they double Kawhi every time he goes in the post. The offense needs to include whatever necessary for Kawhi to succeed. That's the only way we will succeed. You don't play a non-shooter next to someone that demands a double team.
Nathan89 for head coach tbh.

[SayTown]

Spurs won't shoot that bad again but Jordan was a big reason why they shot bad tonight

[Nathan89]

How the Spurs address that is small ball. They run the shit out of the tempo, keeping Chris Paul as the primary scorer for the Clippers and making Blake and Jordan run all over the place. Spurs are in the front court, they need to run small ball with Tony, Marco, Patty, Danny and Boris, and put KL in there now and again to spell one of them and get some steals.



Kawhi is a bench player on your small ball lineup?:lol

[Mugen]

I would let Messina coach...

[RD2191]

Spurs won't win this series if crawford continues to shit on them like he has all season. Dude eats Manu for lunch and then shits him out and flushes him.

[DPG21920]

I know you're a betting man and you do pretty well, but don't bet on this one.

Agreed. It's just odd for someone who's such a hero on the board in defending the honor TP to take such short cuts in an actual legit basketball thread.

Hell, there are many times when I might even agree it comes down to "making shots" with very little changes/game planning needed elsewhere. I just don't truly believe that is the case in the playoffs/this series. There is an element of that in order to be in strking distance, but there was more to the game than that from what I personally saw.

[ElNono]

Tony said his ankle will be sore tomorrow, but he should be fine by Wednesday

[DPG21920]

Who's arguing?

You're trying to pick a fight because I only listed the two main things I though would help the most. You aren't satisfied with my plan for game two. Well again -- good for you. I'm not here to please you, so quit being a bitch about it.

I'm just here to talk basketball. That literally makes no sense.

[ChumpDumper]

Agreed. It's just odd for someone who's such a hero on the board in defending the honor TP to take such short cuts in an actual legit basketball thread.

Hell, there are many times when I might even agree it comes down to "making shots" with very little changes/game planning needed elsewhere. I just don't truly believe that is the case in the playoffs/this series. There is an element of that in order to be in strking distance, but there was more to the game than that from what I personally saw.So we disagree.

Great.

We don't have to agree.

What part of that do you not understand?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just here to talk basketball. That literally makes no sense.Just quit being a bitch.

Everything will be OK.

[Mugen]

hey look, DPG is back.

[DMC]

Kawhi is a bench player on your small ball lineup?:lol

Kawhi is the best iso player on the Spurs when Tony and Manu aren't on, but he doesn't have that navigational mental lock with the other guys that Patty, Boris, Marco and Manu have (I should have mentioned Manu). Kawhi looks like he has to think about what he's supposed to do when he gets the ball. He'll take a couple dribbles in and then step back out and pass it to someone else. They all do that at times, but the big 3 don't seem to have him on their radar when the ball is moving around. He'll get some looks, but they don't look scripted.

[Arcadian]

Quick, crisp passing. None of this slow, high-arcing shit that everybody was throwing around all night.

[DPG21920]

Just quit being a bitch.

Everything will be OK.

You seem to be getting angry. It's really odd. I will type something negative about TP so you can get back into your comfort zone. I'm just here to talk basketball.

[DPG21920]

hey look, DPG is back.

I might need to make some "adjustments" to that.

[ChumpDumper]

You seem to be getting angry. It's really odd. I will type something negative about TP so you can get back into your comfort zone. I'm just here to talk basketball.So why are you not talking basketball? It's really odd that someone who is just here to talk basketball is not talking basketball.

[DMC]

Agreed. It's just odd for someone who's such a hero on the board in defending the honor TP to take such short cuts in an actual legit basketball thread.

Hell, there are many times when I might even agree it comes down to "making shots" with very little changes/game planning needed elsewhere. I just don't truly believe that is the case in the playoffs/this series. There is an element of that in order to be in strking distance, but there was more to the game than that from what I personally saw.

It's not like we were missing wide open jumpers. We missed some, but a lot of those misses were forced up last second heaves that had little to no chance of going in, including a few air balls as I recall, and some "no iron" shots by Tim and the Banger. That's because we didn't move the ball well, we were slow on offense, and guys were deferring too much. Ball moving is great when it's for a better look, but not as a hot potato move.

[RD2191]

Crofl. Chump meltdown after getting fucked like Tony Parker tonight.

[ChumpDumper]

Crofl. Chump meltdown after getting fucked like Tony Parker tonight.lol it's not like I started multiple meltdown threads.

[dabom]

Crofl. Chump meltdown after getting fucked like Tony Parker tonight.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao


lol it's not like I started multiple meltdown threads.

[Malik Hairston]

You seem to be getting angry. It's really odd. I will type something negative about TP so you can get back into your comfort zone. I'm just here to talk basketball.

:lol..

[elbamba]

Mills has to be the first backup pg. Cory just plays too timid on offense and Mills is not that much of a downgrade on defense.

They need to figure out a set that has either tony or Green in the corner for when the double team comes so they can outlet to the top of the key and swing it to the corner.

Spurs need to move the ball. There was may 3 good passing plays in this game. The Spurs need about 15 to wear the Clippers down.

Tiago needs to sit if he plays like he did today. I appreciate the effort but his offense was bad and it hurt the starting unit in the first and third quarters.

When Manu is in the game, the ball needs to go through him at the top of the key. The Spurs did that in the second quarter but not at all in the second half.

Manu and Leonard need to play at the same time.

[shingo_318]

bench tp all night and fake a injury for him, just like g6 in last year's okc. this guy just fucked up team chemistry.

[spurtech09]

replace the refs

[UZER]

Quick, crisp passing. None of this slow, high-arcing shit that everybody was throwing around all night.

Yup. To lazy for playoff ball.

Oh :lol and that rainbow 3 by manu that still hasn't come back down yet.

[Ditty]

Hope to see Green/Leonard start on Paul from the get go, set a tone and hopefully Tiago feels great and plays closer to twenty minutes. I like Baynes, but he had a tough game tonight. Mills first point guard off the bench, and Pop needs to keep rolling with him if he is playing well.

[Robz4000]

-Kawhi on Redick, Green on CP3, and Enrique on Barnes from the get-go
-Depending on Splitter, starting Diaw may be the best choice
-Don't be afraid to pull Enrique if he's shitting the bed early, the Clippers have always been a team Mills plays well againt; if he has to play 30+ mins a game this series so be it
-Beli might be able to thrive in this match up surprisingly, as long as Green or Leonard are in the game with him
-Manu needs to attack more; he isn't capable of doing it at will be 5-6 times a game should be possible
-No more zones ffs
-Hit freebies (don't have a lot of confidence in this, they've been terrible all year)

[Robz4000]

Also, welcome back DPG. Forum was noticeably worse without you.

[Cloud786]

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[Malik Hairston]

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Damn, that one hurts, but I guess it's a silver lining..maybe..

[ChumpDumper]

590038552458596353Holy shit, that's worse than I thought when I definitely watched the game so I could post about its technicalities.

[z0sa]

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Yeah, how many chances did we get in the first couple possessions of the 2nd half? 5 or 6, at least? Our guys missed some easy ones tonight. That said, Danny Green's gonna need to find some adjustment out there that doesn't include dribbling the ball more than a couple times.

[Stabula]

Shot blockers are prone to getting in foul trouble. Show Jordan the ball, throw a million pump fakes if you have to, and keep him in foul trouble.

[Cloud786]

The only silver lining was that we had 36 uncontested shots compared to their 26. I don't have faith in us to consistently knock down open shots. They haven't done it the whole season so don't expect it now.

[dabom]

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Tony and boris. :lmao

[sexinthatsx]

For starters, I kinda feel like the Clippers played just about as well as they can. They hit us with their best shot, and unfortunately we couldn't take it. In general, we have to play more composed. There were times we looked like a team that had made the playoffs for the first time, and Green especially looked pretty shook for some reason. It kinda felt like how some of the Dallas series last year felt to me, with the ball movement being really stymied. Idk I'm having a little trouble digesting that game, not really sure how to feel about it fully.

I went to the game tonight... the crowd brought the energy and fueled the Clippers. CP3's buckets were going in during the 4th, he simply couldn't miss. But during the first 2 quarters, JJ Redick hit some shots that stopped any momentum the Spurs may have had.

[glen907]

Come out and play in the first quarter like they give a damn and more minutes for patty

[hyhy]

I went to the game tonight... the crowd brought the energy and fueled the Clippers. CP3's buckets were going in during the 4th, he simply couldn't miss. But during the first 2 quarters, JJ Redick hit some shots that stopped any momentum the Spurs may have had.

Any millionaire spurs fan willing to buy the whole stadium tickets for game 2?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's just a random internet throw away line. No one thinks what they type on here will be implemented by the actual Spurs. This is a Spurs board and this is a basketball discussion thread. Making FT's isnt an adjustment. That's just something every team tries to do. Requires no actual planning.

Not sure why you are more interested in arguing than contributing something of substance and random throw away lines?? It's the same value as the Parker bashing threads.

You should go back to your other accounts. You are being quite the bitch on this one.

[apalisoc_9]

Good that someone mentioned about transition.

Kawhi is our best transition player by far, the bigs needs to allow him to rebound the ball and run...

the guards should know this too..

If pop is not going to make adjustments on the rotation, kawhi posts ups won't work.

[Johnny RIngo]

Parker, Diaw, and Green were our three worst players today. Usually, Green and Diaw are both pretty good playoff performers so the shitshow they put on tonight was surprising - definitely expect a better performance from them next game. Parker is always disappointing this time of year so I'm not expecting much from him next game. Mills was awesome - hope he gets all of Joseph's minutes along with some of Tony's next game.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

1. Kawhi, Parker and Manu should drive more
2. Green should drive less
3. Less post-ups for Kawhi, more for Tim and Boris
4. More Mills, less CoJo and Marco - even if Mills isn't shooting well they still respect his shot and it creates space. No one guards CoJo
5. More hacking - the lane opens when Jordan's not there
6. Some zone
7. Stay on their shooters
8. Don't turn the ball over so much ( duh )
9. Go small - Parker, Manu, Green, Leonard, Tim/Diaw

[Fireball]

1. Kawhi should not be intimidated by Barnes
2. Baynes has to stop being the rag doll of Barnes and Paul ...
3. Start Diaw, let Manu play with Splitter
4. Mills was good, so play him
5. Let Griffin and Paul get theirs ...but stop Barnes, Crawford and Reddick
6. Danny should make shots instead of screaming on every drive in Gasol/Boozer type fashion ...

[wildchild]

1-Time to stop talking about Kawhi as the man and start treating him like it.

1b-Play him 43 minutes like Griffin tonight instead of his 33', and give Leonard the ball...more.

[heyheymymy]

Duncan, Green, Parker, Ginobili, and Diaw combined for 54 shots tonight. They only connected on 15 of the attempts. If that happens 3 more games then hats off the the Clips and we weren't going deep anyway.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Duncan, Green, Parker, Ginobili, and Diaw combined for 54 shots tonight. They only connected on 15 of the attempts. If that happens 3 more games then hats off the the Clips and we weren't going deep anyway.
this

[ManuTastic]

Sic Leonard on CP. Shut the bitch down.

[TampaDude]

Hit more shots.

That is all.

[benefactor]

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Stop missing.

[benefactor]

Oh and it's good to see you back and in playoff form, DPG.:lol

[The Reckoning]

Spurs just in a shooting slump. They out-played the Clips on the court but shots didn't fall. It happens. They'll win out because stats and law of averages says so.

[Spurs9]

This almost feels like Ibaka syndrome again with DJ in the paint.


Duncan, Green, Parker, Ginobili, and Diaw combined for 54 shots tonight. They only connected on 15 of the attempts. If that happens 3 more games then hats off the the Clips and we weren't going deep anyway.
They missed a number of freebies, many free throws and overall played horrible. The clippers made some tough shots all night, reverse that a bit with some effort and we might not be in that bad of shape.

[NASpurs]

My game 2 adjustment is to hire a hitman and...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAgdosUkAIQlZG.jpg

[NASpurs]

Ok that was dark. Don't call the FBI on me, NBA. :lol

[$pursDynasty]

Shot blockers are prone to getting in foul trouble. Show Jordan the ball, throw a million pump fakes if you have to, and keep him in foul trouble.
This!!!

[Russ]

Pop knows what he needs to do.

It would only take five minutes. :)

[kaji157]

The adjustment i would do is a combination of what pop did against Miami last year to avoid turnovers and what he did against the thunder.

Against the thunder he inserted booner to take ibaka out of the paint, that has already been pointed out. And against Miami he inserted diaw to have a second playmaker on the floor because Miami was throwing a double team at the ballhandler starting the pick n roll.

Kawhi is still a layer that cannot pass the ball, it showed the whole year and it was evident yesterday, by inserting boris on the lineup you give Kawhi a first option pass for when he is doubled that is smart enough to start a play, just as Tony and Manu did during the Miami finals last years. If rivers chooses to adjust then he will need to send Jordan out of the paint to cover diaw or someone else will be open.

[TampaDude]

The adjustment i would do is a combination of what pop did against Miami last year to avoid turnovers and what he did against the thunder.

Against the thunder he inserted booner to take ibaka out of the paint, that has already been pointed out. And against Miami he inserted diaw to have a second playmaker on the floor because Miami was throwing a double team at the ballhandler starting the pick n roll.

Kawhi is still a layer that cannot pass the ball, it showed the whole year and it was evident yesterday, by inserting boris on the lineup you give Kawhi a first option pass for when he is doubled that is smart enough to start a play, just as Tony and Manu did during the Miami finals last years. If rivers chooses to adjust then he will need to send Jordan out of the paint to cover diaw or someone else will be open.

We waxed a Heat team last season that would hammer this Clippers team.

We are much, much better than the way we played last night.

[Silver&Black Warrior]

What about a starting lineup of mills, Parker, Green, Leonard, and Duncan. As mentioned this would allow Manu to play with splitter in the second unit. and I think mills will be able to stay in front of Chris Paul better. We would have to see how Leonard would handle Griffin in the post. If that didn't work we could have a line up of mills, Parker, Leonard, Duncan, and Diaw. Duncan and Diaw would guard Griffin interchangeably.

[Rev Hill]

Some of these probably already been said, but:

1) Pressure the Clip's inbounds- don't just let them freely and quickly inbound the ball and get the ball up court. Make them use more of the shot clock (slow the game down a tad). They win in a high scoring affair.

2)Get physical with Paul- i.e put Green on him. We can afford Green in foul trouble more so than Leonard.

3)Set harder screens and use them more effectively. Our guys weren't setting tough screens, coming off tight or rolling off quickly.

4)Stick'em- need better hands. Too many of our bigs, even guards, were fumbling the ball around and couldn't get a grip on it.

5)Shoot better

6)Make FT's (can't miss FT's in playoffs).

7)Overall better/more physical defense. Establish it early and the ref's let you play it. Spurs way too soft. Let Clips dictate everything.

[look_at_g_shred]

MAKE OPEN SHOTS AND HIT FREE THROWS. LIMIT TURNOVERS. IF WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT LAST NIGHT, WE WOULD'VE WON.

[Horse]

That doesn't solve the defensive issues - leaving shooters, Griffin, CP3 going nuts. Spurs were not getting nearly as many good looks (they did get some) because of the PG/G play. They were flustered all night with being trapped and made some really poor decisions.

Making FT/Bunnies help obviously, but there were more issues than just that.

keep the game close wait on choke paul to bring it home.

[313]

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Kyle Morgan ‏@SpursFanatic2 (https://twitter.com/SpursFanatic2) 11h11 hours ago (https://twitter.com/SpursFanatic2/status/590039676456697856)
@danmccarneySAEN (https://twitter.com/danmccarneySAEN) Quick math: LAC (26/78) 33% uncontested shots, made (16/26) 61.5%Spurs (36/93) 39% uncontested shots, made (12/36) 33.3%

[Seventyniner]

Maybe the Clippers will adjust the rims: they were extremely tight in game 1. Numerous shots from both teams rattled in or rattled out.

[sexinthatsx]

Any millionaire spurs fan willing to buy the whole stadium tickets for game 2?

I wish. Some loud mouth college frat bro behind me shouted, "Tony Parker, what has he done that was so great?" I turned around and said he only won 4 rings during his career.

[313]

How about we stop being pussies whenever we go against a team with a shot blocker and attack the paint. I really thought we got over this after the OKC series last year but I guess not. I'll never understand how a team as battle tested as this spurs team is gets rattled so easily.

Gutless worms..

[SpurSwag]

Ok with a night to really think it over

1) Stop missing. We can talk all we want about other X factors and what we saw and didn't see, but the reality of it is that they made a lot of their shots, and we missed a lot of ours. If we miss that many free throws and wide open shots, we're going to lose the series. That's the reality of basketball. At the same token, the Clippers played as well as they are going to. I maintain that this was one of, if not the best, game I've seen CP3 and Blake play simultaneously.

2) Better rotations. Kawhi was out waaaaay too long between the 3rd and 4th quarter, Patty should regain his standing as the definite back up point guard, and one of Danny or Kawhi should always be on the floor if Crawford or Paul is.

3) Composure. We really looked like a team that was new to the playoffs during some stretches there, and we were playing really frantically and out of control. Hopefully this next game we calm ourselves and move the ball as we always have.

I really just think this was a bad game and not indicative of any series long problems, but I will say that playing them was the worst case scenario possible as of the last night of the regular season. They are a top 3 team in the conference, and won't be easy to beat. That being said, I'm still thinking Spurs in 6.

[SpurSwag]

and holy shit do i hate watching jamal crawford, I respect his handles and his whole and-1 game, but the dude flops on literally every shot. i can't stand watching players who, instead of going up for a normal jump shot, start kicking their legs out and cocking their head back. There's literally not a single jumper this dude takes without flopping a little.

[hater]

Trapped!

First look at this picture (below). This is a really bad situation being caught in the corner, hemmed in by both sidelines. Don't let yourself get caught in a corner. Don't ever stop your dribble in the corner or along the baseline... if you've dribbled baseline and find that you've got nowhere to go, just back-dribble back out, but never stop the dribble there.

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/images/Trap.jpg

Avoid the Trap

Avoid getting caught by dribbling into one of the "trapping zones" (colored areas) seen below.

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/images/TrappingZones.gif

Escaping a Trap

Once in a trap, get in triple threat position and get low with the ball protected on the hip. The common mistake is to stand upright and pivot away from the defenders. This allows the defenders to "squeeze" into your backside. Now you can neither see the floor, nor can you pivot. See position below

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/images/TripleThreat2.JPG

"Take an Outside Leg"

If you have a little room along the sideline, from triple-threat position, if you can't find someone to pass to... "take an outside leg". Get your leg around the outside leg of one of the defenders and bust out of there with a dribble. In the diagram, the left foot is your pivot foot. Get low and take a long step with your right foot around the defender's outside foot, while pushing the ball forward, protecting it with your body.

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/images/TrapOutsideLeg.JPG

"Split the Trap"

If the trappers are not "knee-to-knee", then "split the trap". From triple-threat position, stay low and aggressively step thru, between the two defenders, and dribble out of there. This is a little like a "football move", like a running back getting low and running thru the line.

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/images/TrapStepThru.JPG

In either case, you've got to be tough and strong. Don't be afraid to make contact with the defenders.

[MateoNeygro]

I think the Spurs will be okay. They looked caught off guard by the intensity the Clippers brought. They had a lot of good looks that didn't go in. Jordan really got in their heads (hopefully that doesn't continue) I believe one person likened it to the OKC series when Ibaka completely shut down the paint for a few games until adjustments were made. In general the offense was a cluster fuck. The Clippers seemed to do things the Spurs weren't equipped to handle. Kawhi didn't handle double teams well either. I just feel like with the Spurs shooting regressing to the average the game will look different going forward. Spurs in 7.

[wildbill2u]

We have a problem with Paul's speed and the Clippers high pnr. I think there are a couple of answers.
1. Take Kwahi off Paul completely. He can't stay with his speed. Instead, Put him on their other major scorer, Griffen and let him take him out of their offense. Not easy, but he has length and good defensive skills.

2. Especially with Parker hurt, we need to put all our speed guys on Paul in short stints so they can go all out all the time on defense and offense. Run that little guy into the ground. There were a couple of times last night when Paul was sucking wind from playing all those minutes. Up the pressure on him by running him all over the court on offense and staying up on him on defense. Give him a few hard fouls.

3. Green will have to take on REddick. He should be able to do that and make a few baskets. Start Diaw on Barnes. And of course TD on Jordan.

Going small may go against the common thinking that we can beat them with our bigs, but I'm not sure that Splitter is up to taking on Griffen right now.