Report: Spurs might get a free agent meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge

[Sec24Row7]

Just say no to LMA. Gasol is a much better option.


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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

That 3 year, 43 million dollar extension is going to cost dearly.

Alridge may be soft but he can put points on the board instead of the team playing 4 on 5 all the time


I'm seeing way more hate on Aldridge in this thread than is warranted, tbh. Tonight's game is not at all indicative of the type of player he is. Just look at his numbers and %'s this year. He's been great.

*It should also be noted that he's been playing with a torn ligament in his left thumb that he suffered back in January, hence the brace on his left hand. He could've easily opted to undergo the surgery as planned back then, but he offered to put off the surgery until after the season and play hurt cause of the tight playoff race in the West. He's talked about how it limits his ability to play, and he's still put up 23 pts, 10 boards, & 1 block per this year with a 22.85 PER.

Honestly I think last night game just showed LA doesn't care to be in Portland anymore. I highly doubt he stays.

[ElNono]

Oregon is a different state, those cpas didnt do their homework

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2010/07/lebron-james-and-his-big-decision.html

The worse case for a five-year, $96 million contract is New York, and it's a meager $12m (total, over the 5 years). That's the absolute worst case. And in a market like NY they're very likely to easily offset that with a sponsorship deal.

Just forget about the tax difference. It's not a game changer.

[Beaverfuzz]

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2010/07/lebron-james-and-his-big-decision.html

The worse case for a five-year, $96 million contract is New York, and it's a meager $12m (total, over the 5 years). That's the absolute worst case. And in a market like NY they're very likely to easily offset that with a sponsorship deal.

Just forget about the tax difference. It's not a game changer.

Sorry dude but $12 million isnt meager. And I would bet that it would be much more than a $12 million difference. It's obvious you do your own taxes and dont itemize.

[ElNono]

Sorry dude but $12 million isnt meager. And I would bet that it would be much more than a $12 million difference. It's obvious you do your own taxes and dont itemize.

I'll just take the word of CPAs over yours, tbh, no offense. I won't stop you from fantasizing that the state tax will make a difference, go ahead.

My tax situation has no bearing in this discussion, but you couldn't be more wrong...

[Beaverfuzz]

I'll just take the word of CPAs over yours, tbh, no offense. I won't stop you from fantasizing that the state tax will make a difference, go ahead.

My tax situation has no bearing in this discussion, but you couldn't be more wrong...


Nice try standard deduction. Your cpas are pretty clueless and dont think outside the box. I can see why you're considered the special child of your family:bobo :downspin:

[Beaverfuzz]

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2010/07/lebron-james-and-his-big-decision.html

The worse case for a five-year, $96 million contract is New York, and it's a meager $12m (total, over the 5 years). That's the absolute worst case. And in a market like NY they're very likely to easily offset that with a sponsorship deal.

Just forget about the tax difference. It's not a game changer.


Holy hell, you didnt even read your own linked article! Hypothetical mumble jumble. :bobo

Because if it's on blogspot, it must be gospel!

[ElNono]

Nice try standard deduction. Your cpas are pretty clueless and dont think outside the box. I can see why you're considered the special child of your family:bobo :downspin:

Listen guy, you don't know anything about me or my CPAs. You can try to make this discussion about me, but that says more about you than me, tbh...

I linked an actual article with actual CPAs addressing the max player state tax situation. All you wrote is your gut feeling. We'll let the readers reach their own conclusions. I'm fine with that.

[ElNono]

Holy hell, you didnt even read your own linked article! Hypothetical mumble jumble.

Because if it's on blogspot, it must be gospel!

Sure I did. Did you read it?

[Mikeanaro]

Sure I did. Did you read it?
:toastHappy 100k Nono, did you make 2000 posts yesterday or something?

[ElNono]

Is Forbes ok?

http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-state-tax-domicile-ny-ohio-personal-finance-move-home-miami.html

There's a pile of articles about this stuff if you actually look for them.

[ElNono]

:toastHappy 100k Nono, did you make 2000 posts yesterday or something?

probably during the last game thread, tbh.. thanks

[ElNono]

Bloomberg Business?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-27/lebron-21-million-a-year-bringing-cleveland-215-million

[ElNono]

Anyways, I think if LMA is after money, he'll stay in Portland. That's probably the best situation of guaranteed money for him.

[ElNono]

FWIW, Beaverfuzz, I love Portland, one of my favorite cities to live in, nothing personal with the city or you, tbh

[BatManu20]

FWIW, Beaverfuzz, I love Portland, one of my favorite cities to live in, nothing personal with the city or you, tbh

I'd put Portland in the top 5 NBA cities to live in, tbh. Great town.

[ElNono]

I'd put Portland in the top 5 NBA cities to live in, tbh. Great town.

Haven't lived there since the mid 90s, but back then, absolute #1 on my list, despite the rain.

[ducks]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/26/lamarcus-aldridge-flew-back-to-portland-after-game-2-loss-while-rest-of-blazers-stayed-in-memphis/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

[look_at_g_shred]

Does his decision change whether we lose in the first round or win the chip?

[ViceCity86]

Aldridge comes.Duncan comes back for vet minimum.Dump Splitter.

The wet dream.

[Chomag]

Dont think we ever can count on seeing Splitter ever put together more then a few games between injuries so I can still see going for Aldridge as a good idea.

[BatManu20]

It was already a long shot, but if Spurs are bounced in the 1st round, don't think LA even considers us tbh.

[Beaverfuzz]

Listen guy, you don't know anything about me or my CPAs. You can try to make this discussion about me, but that says more about you than me, tbh...

I linked an actual article with actual CPAs addressing the max player state tax situation. All you wrote is your gut feeling. We'll let the readers reach their own conclusions. I'm fine with that.

No, you didn't link an article with actual CPAs addressing anything, because you didn't even read the article!

[Beaverfuzz]

Haven't lived there since the mid 90s, but back then, absolute #1 on my list, despite the rain.

Thank God you moved, no wonder my house value increased. :lol

[Beaverfuzz]

FWIW, Beaverfuzz, I love Portland, one of my favorite cities to live in, nothing personal with the city or you, tbh

What do your "CPAs" think?

[ElNono]

No, you didn't link an article with actual CPAs addressing anything, because you didn't even read the article!

What's your point? What's the counter argument other than "I bet"? :lol

Put forth a cogent argument and back it up. Other than trying to make this about me and my CPAs, failing at it, and discrediting articles because they're on blogspot, we've nothing of substance from you.

That article I linked at the very least include comments from Tax Law experts like Mr Zelinski (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/directory/edward-zelinsky), who is a teacher of Corporate Tax and Federal Income Tax. That piece, the Bloomberg article and the Forbes article explain that the whole taxing situation goes way beyond the games taxes, it's complicated and it involves other income such as secondary businesses, investments, and that there are different tax avoidance strategies like setting up a different state of residency to minimize the tax hit. For example, even though Lebron is back in Cleveland, which has an income tax larger than Miami, Lebron can still leave his place of residence in Miami, and diminish the income tax hit.

[spurraider21]

It was already a long shot, but if Spurs are bounced in the 1st round, don't think LA even considers us tbh.
he's looking long term. he knows duncan/manu aren't going to be around long anyway, so i dont it would matter.

[BatManu20]

Houston would look the most appealing to me if I'm LA. Two stars already in place to take the load off, get to play in Texas, the West is going to be weaker over the coming years, etc.

The problem is they'd have to basically gut their roster. Terry, Brewer, Josh Smith, and Beverley are all UFA this summer and they'd have to let them walk, and likely Terrance Jones and Motiejunas next season.

[ElNono]

Houston would look the most appealing to me if I'm LA. Two stars already in place to take the load off, get to play in Texas, the West is going to be weaker over the coming years, etc.

The problem is they'd have to basically gut their roster. Terry, Brewer, Josh Smith, and Beverley are all UFA this summer and they'd have to let them walk, and likely Terrance Jones and Motiejunas next season.

Can they free a max slot though?

[BatManu20]

Can they free a max slot though?

They'd likely have to trade a piece or two in order for it to work. My guess would be Ariza.

[ElNono]

They'd likely have to trade a piece or two in order for it to work. My guess would be Ariza.

That'd be a killer, IMO. Ariza has been amazing for them.

[BatManu20]

That'd be a killer, IMO. Ariza has been amazing for them.

Yea agreed. They'd basically have to give up their entire roster and fill it in with old vets and draft picks, ala Miami w/ Lebron and co, only I think it'd be worse this time. Don't know if I see that happening.

[Beaverfuzz]

What's your point? What's the counter argument other than "I bet"? :lol

Put forth a cogent argument and back it up. Other than trying to make this about me and my CPAs, failing at it, and discrediting articles because they're on blogspot, we've nothing of substance from you.

That article I linked at the very least include comments from Tax Law experts like Mr Zelinski (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/directory/edward-zelinsky), who is a teacher of Corporate Tax and Federal Income Tax. That piece, the Bloomberg article and the Forbes article explain that the whole taxing situation goes way beyond the games taxes, it's complicated and it involves other income such as secondary businesses, investments, and that there are different tax avoidance strategies like setting up a different state of residency to minimize the tax hit. For example, even though Lebron is back in Cleveland, which has an income tax larger than Miami, Lebron can still leave his place of residence in Miami, and diminish the income tax hit.

You keep using this acronym "CPA", I don't think it means what you think it means. Try again and actually READ your article.

Just because one is a tax expert does not mean that they're a CPA...damn it now I ruined your entire thesis.

[$pursDynasty]

It was already a long shot, but if Spurs are bounced in the 1st round, don't think LA even considers us tbh.
but when they lose in the first round, and we go back to back what then??? If home state no state taxes are his thing as well as contending for a chip then we are a much better choice than the Mavs and a better fit than the Rox

[Chomag]

Allways wanted Ariza on the Spurs team his game seems like he would thrive in a spurs system.

[$pursDynasty]

Allways wanted Ariza on the Spurs team his game seems like he would thrive in a spurs system.
me too should have chased him instead of courting Pau

[ElNono]

You keep using this acronym "CPA", I don't think it means what you think it means. Try again and actually READ your article.

Just because one is a tax expert does not mean that they're a CPA...damn it now I ruined your entire thesis.

:lol so you got nothing? I thought so.

[BatManu20]

Isolating himself from the team. He gone.

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[$pursDynasty]

Isolating himself from the team. He gone.

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BatM better to be obvious so the team can prepare than being shocked when the player bolts though

[BatManu20]

Tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/592175769532534785/xnfxfvs7.jpg

[Budkin]

Could be a good fit here, but I'm not not holding my breath.

[TXstbobcat]

Tlong would have a melt down if LMA left the Blazers

[apalisoc_9]

I'm not sure how Aldridge is a good fit...

He's a guy that requires tons of post ups to even put on points..

[timtonymanu]

Tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/592175769532534785/xnfxfvs7.jpg

If he were to come here, I wonder what # he would wear since Bowen's is 12.

[FlAVaK]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/teamsites/images/legacy/bulls/aldridge_060612.jpg

[BatManu20]

If he were to come here, I wonder what # he would wear since Bowen's is 12.

Yea likely 23.

[Ditty]

He really didn't look like he wanted to be there, or cared if the Blazers won or lost last night from his body language. Even after the game he didn't seem thrilled compared to how he usually is.

[Chinook]

I think the Spurs have him if they absolutely want him. Feels like Dwight and Houston, except we're not sure the Spurs are willing to make the roster moves to free up the money. I could see him on coming over on a $37M/2 deal with a player option that he ends up not declining.

[Outlier]

Plus, there has been an unexpected addition to the equation: Aldridge this spring became a father. His son and the mother live in San Antonio.

During the playoffs, when Aldridge was excused from the team's flight to Houston before Game 3 in order to fly to Texas for a "family emergency," it was because his ex-girlfriend had gone into labor two weeks early.

Jaylen Lea Aldridge was born April 23, a healthy 8 pounds.

"He's fat right now, looks just like me when I was little," Aldridge said. "He has like three chins, and his legs are so fat, it's like 'Man, it's time for you to start running.' But he has big hands and feet and he has my ears."

It is a serious development for Aldridge, whose father was not a part of his life. He is no longer with the mother, but has an arrangement to see his son every other week.

"My father wasn't really in my life," Aldridge said. "So I'm going to be very involved, trying to be around him as much as I can, see him as much as I can."

[Twisted_Dawg]

If by a chance Aldridge does come to SA, then to make it work does Shitter have to go primarily due to his contract? And what might his trade value be after this injury riddled year?

[TheGreatYacht]

If by a chance Aldridge does come to SA, then to make it work does Shitter have to go primarily due to his contract? And what might his trade value be after this injury riddled year?
I'm sure Philly, ORL, NOP, ATL are interested.

[cjw]

I'm sure Philly, ORL, NOP, ATL are interested.

I don't think there will be any issue trading Splitter. Question would be if they can get any value for him. Teams will know that Spurs have gun to head to make move to fit in Aldridge, so chances are they'd have to pony up a first rounder. Don't love it, but that may be the price of admission and could even carve out space for Duncan/Manu to take smaller deals if they're willing.

If I'm Manu or Tim though, I'm not playing for less than $5 million and $8 million, respectively.

[TD 21]

I think the Spurs have him if they absolutely want him. Feels like Dwight and Houston, except we're not sure the Spurs are willing to make the roster moves to free up the money. I could see him on coming over on a $37M/2 deal with a player option that he ends up not declining.

Obviously, Green has to be kept, at all costs. But beyond that, if Duncan and Ginobili want to return, they should tell Aldridge: You can have whatever type of contract you want, but if you want to play with these two for a year and have the best possible chance at a championship, we can't offer these two the veteran's minimum.

Hopefully, they can coax him into working with them, taking something under the max, opting out after a year, then getting the max. Of course, he'd need a handshake agreement that, should he suffer a significant injury, they wouldn't renege on that.

[Uriel]

I think the Spurs have him if they absolutely want him. Feels like Dwight and Houston, except we're not sure the Spurs are willing to make the roster moves to free up the money. I could see him on coming over on a $37M/2 deal with a player option that he ends up not declining.
If you had to predict where he'd end up next season, where would it be and why?

[K...]

Ok any self professed body language experts going to watch tonights game?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not sure how Aldridge is a good fit...

He's a guy that requires tons of post ups to even put on points..

Considering that no one who logs into you knows wtf they are talking about beyond parroting takes from Grantland interviews, wgaf?

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't think there will be any issue trading Splitter. Question would be if they can get any value for him. Teams will know that Spurs have gun to head to make move to fit in Aldridge, so chances are they'd have to pony up a first rounder. Don't love it, but that may be the price of admission and could even carve out space for Duncan/Manu to take smaller deals if they're willing.

If I'm Manu or Tim though, I'm not playing for less than $5 million and $8 million, respectively.
If the return is a young player on a rookie contract, I'd be fine giving up a first round. Only if they get the okay from Aldridge, that is.

I agree. The way Tim has been playing this season, anything less than 5-8M is an insult.

[coachmac87]

I really think Duncan and Manu are going to sign team friendly 2yr/player option deals around the 7-10m range. It would help the Spurs transition phase tremendously and it will pretty much guarantee a chance to go out with 1 more or 3 peat...Just makes too much sense tbh

[Malik Hairston]

"If feeling great is 10, I'm about a 5, 6," Aldridge said in regards to his thumb.

Hmm..seems like Aldridge would have great chemistry with TP, tbh, a lot in common..

[ElNono]

"If feeling great is 10, I'm about a 5, 6," Aldridge said in regards to his thumb.

Hmm..seems like Aldridge would have great chemistry with TP, tbh, a lot in common..

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm just doing this quick and dirty (rounded) so if I make a mistake then so be it.

The Spurs have the following commitments this offseason.

TP9 - $14m
Splitter - $8.5m
Diaw - $7.5m
Party Mills - $3.5m
Anderson - $1.5m

That is ~$35m committed already.

Major free agents I actually give a shit about and their 2014 salaries:

Leonard - rookie deal
Duncan - $10m
Green - $4m
Belli - $3m
Manu - $7m
Baynes - $2m

Leonard is only going to have 4 years of service time so he will be eligible for the lower max which is 25% of the cap. The 2015 cap is ~$66m so he should start at about $16.5m with the 7.5% raises bringing him to $17.7m the following year.

For the purposes of this exercise I will assume Manu is brought back at Green's salary and Green is brought back at Manu's. Duncan stays the same. Belli gets a raise to $4m and Baynes is not brought back due to LMA being brought in.

That gives us a cap figure of ~$73m which is just under this past years luxury tax threshold of $77m.

LMA is a middle tier veteran and eligible for the 30% proportion which would be about $19.8m with the 4.5% increase you are looking at $20.7m in year two. They do that and it is likely a nonstarter because even if it is for one year, you are going to be looking at upwards of $30m in tax for that $93m cap charge. The following year however the cap goes up to about $90m so even with the increases we are unlikely to be over the tax threshold.

The obvious 300 lbs gorilla is Parker's contract which he hasn't earned in two years at this point.

[BatManu20]

Plus, there has been an unexpected addition to the equation: Aldridge this spring became a father. His son and the mother live in San Antonio.

During the playoffs, when Aldridge was excused from the team's flight to Houston before Game 3 in order to fly to Texas for a "family emergency," it was because his ex-girlfriend had gone into labor two weeks early.

Jaylen Lea Aldridge was born April 23, a healthy 8 pounds.

"He's fat right now, looks just like me when I was little," Aldridge said. "He has like three chins, and his legs are so fat, it's like 'Man, it's time for you to start running.' But he has big hands and feet and he has my ears."

It is a serious development for Aldridge, whose father was not a part of his life. He is no longer with the mother, but has an arrangement to see his son every other week.

"My father wasn't really in my life," Aldridge said. "So I'm going to be very involved, trying to be around him as much as I can, see him as much as I can."


This is true, but he himself also lives in Dallas in the offseason so I don't think that matters much in terms of these two teams.

[AFBlue]

I'm just doing this quick and dirty (rounded) so if I make a mistake then so be it.

The Spurs have the following commitments this offseason.

TP9 - $14m
Splitter - $8.5m
Diaw - $7.5m
Party Mills - $3.5m
Anderson - $1.5m

That is ~$35m committed already.

Major free agents I actually give a shit about and their 2014 salaries:

Leonard - rookie deal
Duncan - $10m
Green - $4m
Belli - $3m
Manu - $7m
Baynes - $2m

Leonard is only going to have 4 years of service time so he will be eligible for the lower max which is 25% of the cap. The 2015 cap is ~$66m so he should start at about $16.5m with the 7.5% raises bringing him to $17.7m the following year.

For the purposes of this exercise I will assume Manu is brought back at Green's salary and Green is brought back at Manu's. Duncan stays the same. Belli gets a raise to $4m and Baynes is not brought back due to LMA being brought in.

That gives us a cap figure of ~$73m which is just under this past years luxury tax threshold of $77m.

LMA is a middle tier veteran and eligible for the 30% proportion which would be about $19.8m with the 4.5% increase you are looking at $20.7m in year two. They do that and it is likely a nonstarter because even if it is for one year, you are going to be looking at upwards of $30m in tax for that $93m cap charge. The following year however the cap goes up to about $90m so even with the increases we are unlikely to be over the tax threshold.

The obvious 300 lbs gorilla is Parker's contract which he hasn't earned in two years at this point.

Trying to understand how you bring LMA in if you're already above the salary cap; don't think it's possible without salary going out the door, whether through retirement (Duncan/Ginobili), free agency (Green, Beli, Ayres, Baynes, CoJo) or trade (Splitter, Mills, Parker, Diaw).

[kaji157]

In order to sign a plus 14 million free agent the Spurs have to:

1) Bring back one or both of Duncan and Ginobili giving these two the room exception and the bianual exception.

2) Renounce either both of Ginobili and Duncan or renounce one and sign the other to one of the exceptions above.

3) Trade either Parker for it or Splitter + something.

[SpursIndonesia]

It's so damn obvious that Tony's extension is pretty much a loyalty reward one. I think he earned it, and PATFO thought the same, so be it.

[DPG21920]

Trying to understand how you bring LMA in if you're already above the salary cap; don't think it's possible without salary going out the door, whether through retirement (Duncan/Ginobili), free agency (Green, Beli, Ayres, Baynes, CoJo) or trade (Splitter, Mills, Parker, Diaw).

Here, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241878&p=7797052#post7797052 , this does a much better job of breaking things down and was done a long time ago by Chinook. No need to guess or do anything else.

[BatManu20]

This would be... something. Dirk comes off the bench & plug LMA & Deandre at the 4/5.

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[TheGreatYacht]

This would be... something. Dirk comes off the bench & plug LMA & Deandre at the 4/5.

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Dyke Cuban wants anything besides a boob reduction

[100%duncan]

Aldridge looks done with Portland :flag:

[BatManu20]

Blazers lose, internet goes wild.


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[spursparker9]

Shaq said he think LMA is going to Dallas

[Uriel]

From what I understand, the only way we can have enough cap room to offer Aldridge a max contract (assuming Leonard gets a max offer this offseason) is if we renounce the rights to Diaw / Green / Bellinelli / Mills, right? Or if Duncan retires?

[BackHome]

Watched the game he played with no heart looked like a slight upgrade to Splitter. With Kawhi being the future focus on offense I would love to get Jordan who could spend some quality time with Chip..:) Can you imagine people trying to score facing Jordan, Kawhi, Green...

[100%duncan]

Can someone photoshop aldridge in a spurs jersey? Just like to troll my friends in FB.

[100%duncan]

oops nvm

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT7cNbcHga-Wf4jtabDkLaC7IMPEAO9IMOzJxMy2ndL-06CFWa3_A

[RD2191]

LMA is a scrub, no heart. No way should they have lost in 5 to the grizz. Could of at least pushed it to 6.

[BatManu20]

Shaq said he think LMA is going to Dallas


This seems like the likely choice. He's from there, already lives there in the offseason, Mavs have money to spend and could still bring in Deandre Jordan, etc. I'd put my money on Dallas.

[BatManu20]

Can someone photoshop aldridge in a spurs jersey? Just like to troll my friends in FB.



Tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/592175769532534785/xnfxfvs7.jpg

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD0GCbHUEAAWcFg.jpg

[100%duncan]

Come home LMA :flag:




Home is where you get the 'ship not be a beta to Dirk tbh.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241878&p=7797052#post7797052 , this does a much better job of breaking things down and was done a long time ago by Chinook. No need to guess or do anything else.

The structure of a deal for LMA wasn't discussed. We would need to free up about $6m to sign him.

It's nice to have specific figures to look to in order to quantify things accurately.

[Outlier]

This is true, but he himself also lives in Dallas in the offseason so I don't think that matters much in terms of these two teams.

So he's going to uproot a mom (who he's no longer seeing) and a son for them to move to Dallas?

Lol are you a Mavs fan or something.

[BatManu20]

So he's going to uproot a mom (who he's no longer seeing) and a son for them to move to Dallas?

Lol are you a Mavs fan or something.

What? No, I'm saying Dallas isn't far from San Antonio, or at least a hell of a lot closer than Portland, so it'd still be a lot easier to see his son, even if he wasn't living in SA. Why would he uproot them anywhere? They've lived in TX the entire time he's been living in Portland. They're going to stay in SA regardless of where he goes.

[Outlier]

What? No, I'm saying Dallas isn't far from San Antonio, or at least a hell of a lot closer than Portland, so it'd still be a lot easier to see his son, even if he wasn't living in SA. Why would he uproot them anywhere? They've lived in TX the entire time he's been living in Portland. They're going to stay in SA regardless of where he goes.

You underestimate the convenience of being in the same city of youe family when you're an NBA player. Say he's a Mav and at practice and all of a sudden his kid needs to see him. He's going to either have to book a sudden flight and take two hours to get there or drive at least four hours. Versus leaving practice and heading to his son in 30 minutes.

[Outlier]

That's also ignoring the super busy schedule of being an NBA player.

[Seventyniner]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD0GCbHUEAAWcFg.jpg

That hashtag is far more appropriate without the t.

[Chinook]

That hashtag is far more appropriate without the t.

:lmao

[Seventyniner]

A crude attempt:

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What? No, I'm saying Dallas isn't far from San Antonio, or at least a hell of a lot closer than Portland, so it'd still be a lot easier to see his son, even if he wasn't living in SA. Why would he uproot them anywhere? They've lived in TX the entire time he's been living in Portland. They're going to stay in SA regardless of where he goes.

And that is why the #1 rumor right now is that he heads to SA, especially if Duncan retires. He is from Texas and his son lives in SA. I am sure he would want to be closer. My take is SA is one on his list and Dallas is second.

Like I said, I think he is leaving Portland. You can tell from his body language he didn't want to be there any more. I think the riff started when their GM said Lillard was the future of the franchise, which is probably true. But I never thought it sat well with LA, especially the loyalty he showed that organization.

[RD2191]

Tom Haberstroh
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LaMarcus Aldridge shot just 33% from the floor vs. Memphis. Not helping his rep as Big Man Allen Iverson: http://bkref.com/tiny/UkoUW (http://t.co/C1q5HWXEOo)




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Could be wrong, but I think @SherwoodStrauss (https://twitter.com/SherwoodStrauss) was the first to coin LMA as the Big Man Allen Iverson. High volume, low FG%.
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[RD2191]

:lol

[100%duncan]

That hashtag is far more appropriate without the t.

:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

lol aldridge.

no thanks..

volume shooter..shitty defender.

Spurs priority should be a penetrating guard

[Mugen]

:lol he's gone tbh. Haven't seen a player that mentally checked out of a playoff series since Kirby's The Quit against Phoenix....

[Chinook]

:lol he's gone tbh. Haven't seen a player that mentally checked out of a playoff series since Kirby's The Quit against Phoenix....

Dunno, Dwight in LA or James during that last game versus the Celtics before he left are examples.

[Mel_13]

I'm not interested in Aldridge on a max contract, and he's surely going to get max offers. Hopefully he gets paid by a team other than the Spurs.

[ThomasamohT]

or Rondo in Dallas

[BatManu20]

I'm not interested in Aldridge on a max contract, and he's surely going to get max offers. Hopefully he gets paid by a team other than the Spurs.

I think he winds up in Dallas anyways. They coul let Tyson Chandler walk, then sign both LA & Deandre Jordan, who's already expressed interest in playing (especially if we beat he Clips in the first round).

Tim and Manu are almost done, and Parker is obviously not far behind them. Kawhi's the only bright spot for the future, but I don't think it's enough for LA to sign long term here imo.

[Chinook]

I'm not interested in Aldridge on a max contract, and he's surely going to get max offers. Hopefully he gets paid by a team other than the Spurs.

I think he'd be a great missing piece. But on a true max deal, given what it would take for the Spurs to get a max slot, it's hard to disagree with you.

[Chinook]

I think he winds up in Dallas anyways. They coul let Tyson Chandler walk, then sign both LA & Deandre Jordan, who's already expressed interest in playing (especially if we beat he Clips in the first round).

Tim and Manu are almost done, and Parker is obviously not far behind them. Kawhi's the only bright spot for the future, but I don't think it's enough for LA to sign long term here imo.

Aldridge is no longer a young gun. A short window should be fine for him. Plus, the Spurs will have another max slot available in 2017 to bring in someone else, so it's not like they have a bad prognosis.

[Mugen]

I'm not interested in Aldridge on a max contract, and he's surely going to get max offers. Hopefully he gets paid by a team other than the Spurs.

I'm not thrilled with the prospect either, especially after watching Aldridge play against Memphis or the Spurs last year. The problem is I don't think the Spurs will be bad enough to land another lottery pick even if Tim/Manu retire.

They'll basically have to have lighting strike for the 5th time and land a stud late a la Leonard. Not impossible but the quickest road to staying competitive while Pop's around is to land another "star player" tbh....

[Arc]

if we can land him somehow and still keep all the other important pieces, we're gonna be so fucking loaded.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think he'd be a great missing piece. But on a true max deal, given what it would take for the Spurs to get a max slot, it's hard to disagree with you.

They'd have to give up Parker and only take back $8m somehow.

[BatManu20]

Aldridge is no longer a young gun. A short window should be fine for him. Plus, the Spurs will have another max slot available in 2017 to bring in someone else, so it's not like they have a bad prognosis.

Yea it's definitely not the end of the world if he doesn't wind up here, or any other "big name" FA for that matter. It's likely the Spurs just re-sign Kawhi, Danny, and both Tim and Manu for one more year. Bring back the gang for one more run.

[ElNono]

If Gino really is walking away after this season, the Spurs need to seriously enter the market for a solid combo guard/slasher/ball handler (George Hill?)... those are not cheap...

[BatManu20]

If Gino really is walking away after this season, the Spurs need to seriously enter the market for a solid combo guard/slasher/ball handler (George Hill?)... those are not cheap...

I wouldn't want George Hill back on the Spurs tbh, esp not at $8 Million a year, but I could see PATFO doing something like this :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Geroge hill is not a good penetrator.

I would rather sign Barea for dirt cheap.

[CGD]

Geroge hill is not a good penetrator.

I would rather sign Barea for dirt cheap.

There are some interesting bargain buys on the Mavs roster. I like Barrea's grit, and another serviceable guy would be Tyson Chandler. Im watching those guys if the Spurs somehow have to unload Mills, Cojo, Boris, or Splitter.

[apalisoc_9]

Tyson would be a nice back up but someone's going to pay him 12+ a year. you won't be getting him for a bargain deal.

I would re-sign Belli, Get Donald Sloan for cheap, re-sign Green. Hopefully Manu comes back for another year..He's fine with his reduced role.

[BatManu20]

Dallas is reportedly interested in Ty Lawson too, and it looks like the feelings are mutual :lol


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[SPM]

Why do players wanna play in Dallas?

[DPG21920]

:lol Ty Lawson is always dropping truth.

[DPG21920]

They'd have to give up Parker and only take back $8m somehow.

There are several ways to shed the money needed to offer LMA a max deal. No domino can fall though until Spurs know what Tim/Manu plan to do. Even beyond that, it's tough (in real life) to part with some of the players needed potentially to get LMA.

[TD 21]

I'm not interested in Aldridge on a max contract, and he's surely going to get max offers. Hopefully he gets paid by a team other than the Spurs.

As I've repeatedly said, you don't sign Aldridge and sacrifice either Splitter or Green in the process. But short of that, why would you not give him whatever he wants? It's not that he's the second coming of Duncan, obviously, but he's clearly as good a player as they realistically will have a chance at and he gives them their best possible chance at continuing to contend over the next few years.

Besides, what's the alternative?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There are several ways to shed the money needed to offer LMA a max deal. No domino can fall though until Spurs know what Tim/Manu plan to do. Even beyond that, it's tough (in real life) to part with some of the players needed potentially to get LMA.

And that is why I wanted an exact number to deal with. The cat being skinned is $6m.

Everyone at least earned their contract except for Ayers and Parker to a lesser degree Mills and Splitter. You can make a probability matrix and look at both TD and Manu staying or only Manu retiring which I think are by far the most likely outcome. Look at the timing of events like FA and the draft etc.

If you get emotional about the subject then sorry but it's not hard for me to be dispassionate discussing this. I know that RC and Pop humanize their players more than most in sports and I expect nothing less.

[ElNono]

As I've repeatedly said, you don't sign Aldridge and sacrifice either Splitter or Green in the process. But short of that, why would you not give him whatever he wants? It's not that he's the second coming of Duncan, obviously, but he's clearly as good a player as they realistically will have a chance at and he gives them their best possible chance at continuing to contend over the next few years.

Besides, what's the alternative?

Wait another year, and go all out on AD, Horford or Love (if he doesn't opt out this summer)?

[TD 21]

Wait another year, and go all out on AD, Horford or Love (if he doesn't opt out this summer)?

:lol Davis isn't going anywhere until at least his 3rd contract (or, the year previous, if he's soured on the situation and makes it clear to them that he's leaving), which is years away.

Horford isn't going anywhere either. Sure, they're not real contenders, but they've got a good thing going.

Love, they might have a shot at. But you don't pass up Aldridge for an outside shot at Love; that would just be stupid.

Aldridge isn't quite a true superstar, but few are and none of those players are coming to San Antonio. They'd be lucky to get a player of his caliber/fit and can't afford to pass up the opportunity.

[ElNono]

:lol Davis isn't going anywhere until at least his 3rd contract (or, the year previous, if he's soured on the situation and makes it clear to them that he's leaving), which is years away.

Horford isn't going anywhere either. Sure, they're not real contenders, but they've got a good thing going.

Love, they might have a shot at. But you don't pass up Aldridge for an outside shot at Love; that would just be stupid.

Aldridge isn't quite a true superstar, but few are and none of those players are coming to San Antonio. They'd be lucky to get a player of his caliber/fit and can't afford to pass up the opportunity.

Was just going through the PF FA list for 2016, and that was basically what was available... not a lot...

On the other hand, I don't really see our cap situation allowing us to go after LMA, and I don't like him enough to basically tear down the team to get him.

Maybe salary dump/S&T Splitter somehow?

[loveforthegame]

FWIW

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3803/steins-scoop-next-for-blazers-aldridge

[ducks]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/report-spurs-near-or-at-the-top-of-lamarcus-aldridges-list-unless-kevin-love-leaves-cavaliers/

[timtonymanu]

Yep, I think it comes down to Dallas or San Antonio. If Parker wasn't eating up so much cap space, I actually think Aldridge would sign here.

[NASpurs]

Yep, I think it comes down to Dallas or San Antonio. If Parker wasn't eating up so much cap space, I actually think Aldridge would sign here.

:lol

At least one of the French Fatties is beneficial to the team.

[timtonymanu]

:lol

[RD2191]

Spurs on top of his list? That means he isn't coming here.:lol

[Malik Hairston]

All trolling aside, it's tough to get excited about the next few years when you know there's a huge negative at PG, tbh:lol..

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Damn, Parker is about to become such a huge albatross.

[TD 21]

Was just going through the PF FA list for 2016, and that was basically what was available... not a lot...

On the other hand, I don't really see our cap situation allowing us to go after LMA, and I don't like him enough to basically tear down the team to get him.

Maybe salary dump/S&T Splitter somehow?

Davis is an RFA though and he'll probably accept their max offer this off season. Even if he didn't, nobody would bother with an offer sheet, because they'd obviously match, so they'd just be tying up cap space for 3 days (if the Pelicans wanted to make them sweat and why wouldn't they?)

Splitter isn't going anywhere. Aldridge detests playing C and despite having the size and strength for it, his game isn't suited for it anyway. Diaw would probably be the one traded for cap space, so that they could re-sign Green as well.

[K...]

All trolling aside, it's tough to get excited about the next few years when you know there's a huge negative at PG, tbh:lol..

I disagree. I expect spurs to start looking at real pgs and want to see them develop. Parker is a placeholder now. Spurs have done well with Manu and one dimensional point guards for the last few years. There's an outside chance mills survives at pg without Manu. I'm sure the spurs know that by now. But the future spurs pg isn't in our system at all. Scary, but fun

[Uriel]

Spurs at or near top of Aldridge’s list of potential destinations

The consistent word on the personnel grapevine at the minute informs us that San Antonio and Dallas not only both believe they have a real shot at signing him but are also legitimately in Aldridge’s thoughts.

Does Aldridge, even accounting for his Dallas upbringing, really want to go home to North Texas or down to South Texas, where he’d essentially be casting himself as the heir apparent to either Dirk Nowitzki or Tim Duncan? Wouldn’t he be putting himself in some awfully challenging circumstances to try to live up to the legacies of either of those certifiable legends?

Answer: We’re hearing Aldridge connected to both of those teams so frequently that you can only conclude that neither idea scares him.

Yet sources insist — at, yes, this early juncture — that San Antonio sits near or at the top of Aldridge’s list … unless the Cleveland Cavaliers were to lose Kevin Love and then somehow manufacture a way to sign-and-trade for him.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3803/steins-scoop-next-for-blazers-aldridge
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[99 Problems]

Wot if AD simply says I'm out. Construct a trade , do whatever GMs but get my trade done. :wow

[ElNono]

Davis is an RFA though and he'll probably accept their max offer this off season. Even if he didn't, nobody would bother with an offer sheet, because they'd obviously match, so they'd just be tying up cap space for 3 days (if the Pelicans wanted to make them sweat and why wouldn't they?)

Splitter isn't going anywhere. Aldridge detests playing C and despite having the size and strength for it, his game isn't suited for it anyway. Diaw would probably be the one traded for cap space, so that they could re-sign Green as well.

Meh, I suspect Pop deems Boris as the much more valuable player. It's not that Splitter isn't, but he would clear a higher amount of space and his brittleness has to be concerning. With Bonner also probably moving onto the front office, I don't think Diaw is going anywhere. Ultimately, I suspect TD will be back, and he would have to play mostly center anyways...

[TXstbobcat]

Wot if AD simply says I'm out. Construct a trade , do whatever GMs but get my trade done. :wow

AD would still be stuck there as the Pelicans would match any offer.

[Malik Hairston]

This team is going to have a lot of holes, tbh..the lack of star power is beginning to take a toll, though, IMO..as flawed and inefficient as Aldridge is, I think you have to go all-out to get him, if he's willing to come..hopefully he learns to shoot the 3 consistently, like he said he was planning on doing..

If you get Aldridge and have to move Splitter, assuming they keep Green, they'll still be lacking:

- Playmakers in the backcourt(assuming Manu retires, they would have 0)
- A defensive big next to Diaw off the bench
- A 3rd wing guy, ideally a defender

[ElNono]

- Playmakers in the backcourt(assuming Manu retires, they would have 0)

Yep, something I mentioned above, and I don't know if ball-handler alone just works, I think you're looking more at a combo guard.

Or, Pop might just stick with Cojo/Patty as the bench backcourt.


- A defensive big next to Diaw off the bench

They could extend a QO to Baynes for $2.5m, so they could cover that, but yeah, they would need one more big for depth.


- A 3rd wing guy, ideally a defender

I think Kyle Anderson is going to get that spot. He's not a defender though.

[spursparker9]

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[99 Problems]

AD would still be stuck there as the Pelicans would match any offer.


I know now they can match. But if you don't wanna be in town, Sometimes it sign and trade time etc.

[therealtruth]

Rather have AD but LA is a nice consolation prize.

[K...]

Wot if AD simply says I'm out. Construct a trade , do whatever GMs but get my trade done. :wow

Think about what happened to Shaq in 2004, Kevin Love the last few years, Dwight Howard, etc.

Basically, teams who can trade assets and aren't in permanent rebuild. Also to the extent that NO has trump power over the length of the contract you can guarantee he'd go East. Same with Gobert and Boggie, although maybe only 90% and 85% true. You don't trade a top 3 player unless you mess up badly. You can't get equal value on a young star.

[TD 21]

Meh, I suspect Pop deems Boris as the much more valuable player. It's not that Splitter isn't, but he would clear a higher amount of space and his brittleness has to be concerning. With Bonner also probably moving onto the front office, I don't think Diaw is going anywhere. Ultimately, I suspect TD will be back, and he would have to play mostly center anyways...

Aldridge plays the same position as Diaw and it's much more difficult to find a starting C than a PF, particularly one who's best as a third big. The fact that Splitter makes more is irrelevant; clearing Diaw's salary would be plenty.

[spurraider21]

RJ 24 makes a good point