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Ditty
04-26-2015, 06:55 PM
And bench Green to come off the bench to guard Crawford.

I think Pop wants to get Manu or Green going and has more trust in Manu.

Kawhi starts on CP3 and Manu on Reddick.

Thoughts?

100%duncan
04-26-2015, 06:56 PM
Nope. But I see him starting Boris.

RD2191
04-26-2015, 06:57 PM
It's usually his go to move but I'd rather Manu come off the bench.

100%duncan
04-26-2015, 06:58 PM
And I don't see a reason, it will hurt Danny's confidence more and it's not like Manu is having a good series.

spurraider21
04-26-2015, 06:58 PM
Nope. But I see him starting Boris.
this is more likely

Floyd Pacquiao
04-26-2015, 06:59 PM
Panic move :lol and something I can see pop doing

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-26-2015, 06:59 PM
And I don't see a reason, it will hurt Danny's confidence more and it's not like Manu is having a good series.
The latter is why it's a good idea

timtonymanu
04-26-2015, 07:00 PM
I don't think changing the lineup will really solve anything. The team as a whole is playing very poorly outside of Leonard.

The only lineup change that can happen is Diaw for Splitter. Neither player has been very effective in this series unfortunately. As is the case with Green and Manu.

hater
04-26-2015, 07:00 PM
:lmao he should just forfeit the series if that happens. :lol evita

100%duncan
04-26-2015, 07:01 PM
The latter is why it's a good idea

But it's a hit or miss. And if it misses it puts them in a deeper whole than where they are right now.

SpurPadre
04-26-2015, 07:02 PM
Stop dicking around and start Bonner.

Pocho La Pantera
04-26-2015, 07:02 PM
It would be great

spurraider21
04-26-2015, 07:02 PM
if Manu starts, then either he or TP will gave to defend CP3... i dont like the idea of that. Keep starting Green.

loveforthegame
04-26-2015, 07:03 PM
Help us if he does.

EVAY
04-26-2015, 07:05 PM
no.

Mugen
04-26-2015, 07:06 PM
:lol nothing like taking away the best CP3 defender out of the game before it even starts. Wouldn't even be surprised tbh.

Malik Hairston
04-26-2015, 07:08 PM
:lol Paul is shooting like 95% with Parker covering him..that's not even a knock on Tony, it's very difficult for a PG to successfully defend an opposing, great PG..why would you want to continue that?

Ditty
04-26-2015, 07:34 PM
Parker would remain on Barnes, Kawhi on Paul and Manu on Redick. Just a thought but yeah I rather Green stay on Paul and hope Paul doesn't have another fluke shooting night.

hater
04-26-2015, 07:36 PM
Yet Rivers shot 90% while guarded by patty and Manu :lmao

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:39 PM
I can see Pop starting Beli over Danny on the road, tbh

hater
04-26-2015, 07:40 PM
I can see Pop starting Beli over Danny on the road, tbh

Bingo. If anyone is starting its Ferrari.

Ferrari has 10x the balls 1 trick pony does on the road btw

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:41 PM
I would be a horrible move, but I can definitely see Pop doing it.

100%duncan
04-26-2015, 07:41 PM
I can see Pop starting Beli over Danny on the road, tbh

Good thing. We'll know that we can turn the tv off. Saves us 2 hrs of our lives.

Stabula
04-26-2015, 07:43 PM
Two days ago everyone had a face full of "I love this team" tears over Danny Green's elite defense. Now we want him out of the starting line-up.


lol

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:45 PM
Two days ago everyone had a face full of "I love this team" tears over Danny Green's elite defense. Now we want him out of the starting line-up.

lol

I don't. I want the Spurs to keep him over the summer, despite everything. But I can definitely see Pop going with Beli over him on the road. I wouldn't think it's a crazy idea at all.

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:47 PM
I don't. I want the Spurs to keep him over the summer, despite everything. But I can definitely see Pop going with Beli over him on the road. I wouldn't think it's a crazy idea at all.
stealing my idea ey?:lol

Malik Hairston
04-26-2015, 07:47 PM
The Spurs scored 105 points, their problem was defense..I think Paul scored like 4 + 2 FTs of his 34 points with Green guarding him IIRC..

Would be strange to make an offensive substitution for a team that just allowed 114 points at home..

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:48 PM
stealing my idea ey?:lol

didn't know it was your idea, tbh. just brought it up above...

If the Spurs can't stay in front of Austin Rivers though, we're not going anywhere, tbh...

Malik Hairston
04-26-2015, 07:48 PM
You also don't adjust your defense to Jamal Crawford..he's an inefficient chucker that isn't really affected by the defense, he takes the same bad shots, regardless..you just hope he's missing and keeps shooting, which he usually is IMO..

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:48 PM
The Spurs scored 105 points, their problem was defense..I think Paul scored like 4 + 2 FTs of his 34 points with Green guarding him IIRC..

Would be strange to make an offensive substitution for a team that just allowed 114 points at home..
ain't much we can do about pops shit rotations. dg should be on cp3 every moment both are on the floor.

Nathan89
04-26-2015, 07:50 PM
We need better defense not offense.

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:50 PM
The Spurs scored 105 points, their problem was defense..I think Paul scored like 4 + 2 FTs of his 34 points with Green guarding him IIRC..

Would be strange to make an offensive substitution for a team that just allowed 114 points at home..

Because at some point I think Pop feels Danny slows down the offense. Tony can't penetrate, we're moving the ball, and Danny can't penetrate either. We end up with a Tim shot in the post, a Kawhi heroic or TP clanking a long shot.

I think Pop sees Marco as a more dynamic offensive player. Better mid-range game, moves well off the ball on offense.... sure, he's a turnstile on defense, but it's a give and take game...

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:51 PM
didn't know it was your idea, tbh. just brought it up above...

If the Spurs can't stay in front of Austin Rivers though, we're not going anywhere, tbh...
mills is trash, need to play cojo tbh. and yeah, the way i figure it we won't survive another dg bad shooting night. marco has a superior offensive game. but the d will take a major hit with dg off the floor. who knows tbh. pop better figure something out.

Malik Hairston
04-26-2015, 07:52 PM
Because at some point I think Pop feels Danny slows down the offense. Tony can't penetrate, we're moving the ball, and Danny can't penetrate either. We end up with a Tim shot in the post, a Kawhi heroic or TP clanking a long shot.

I think Pop sees Marco as a more dynamic offensive player. Better mid-range game, moves well off the ball on offense.... sure, he's a turnstile on defense, but it's a give and take game...

That's all true, but again, the defense was the problem..

People seem to forget that these Spurs are a defense-first team..they ranked 2nd in defense, this year, and they've been much better on D than offense for years..there's the perception that the Spurs are an offensive-minded team because they're unstoppable when clicking, but this is a team that relies on D before anything else..

The Parker-Beli duo was one of the worst ranked combinations in the NBA, this year, from an on/off metrics perspective:lol..it's as bad as it gets..

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:52 PM
mills is trash, need to play cojo tbh. and yeah, the way i figure it we won't survive another dg bad shooting night. marco has a superior offensive game. but the d will take a major hit with dg off the floor. who knows tbh. pop better figure something out.

Mills have been fine. This series just isn't for Cojo, IMO.

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:52 PM
bad offense leads to bad defense. for instance dg bricks a 3 and cp3 hits one in transition. just my theory anyways.

Mugen
04-26-2015, 07:52 PM
Pop might even star Beli instead of Kawhi tbh :lol

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:52 PM
Mills have been fine. This series just isn't for Cojo, IMO.
mills was pure trash on d tonight

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:53 PM
That's all true, but again, the defense was the problem..

People seem to forget that these Spurs are a defense-first team..they ranked 2nd in defense, this year, and they've been much better on D than offense for years..there's the perception that the Spurs are an offensive-minded team because they're unstoppable when clicking, but this is a team that relies on D before anything else..

The Parker-Beli duo was one of the worst ranked combinations in the NBA, this year, from an on/off metrics perspective:lol..it's as bad as it gets..

I'm 100% in agreement and I rather die with defense than offense. Just my perception of why Pop goes to Beli as much as he goes, and why I wouldn't be surprised if he goes there again.

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:54 PM
mills was pure trash on d tonight

lots of people were trash on d today

Malik Hairston
04-26-2015, 07:54 PM
I don't think he will, tbh..he hasn't went to Belinelli in the past 2 games for extended stretches, he'll probably die with Manu instead IMO, which is more understandable, although I disagree for several reasons(the bench needs Manu)..

RD2191
04-26-2015, 07:56 PM
lots of people were trash on d today
but mostly our pg's tbh. rivers dropped 16 on mills/parker.

Mikeanaro
04-26-2015, 07:57 PM
I dont think thats a good idea, he moves the bench, is not having a great series, could get some early fouls and some heavy minutes can be too much for him.
Beli since DG is trash seems to be a more realistic option.

ElNono
04-26-2015, 07:58 PM
We'll see. Wouldn't surprise me if he goes with Boris from the start either.

TDfan2007
04-26-2015, 08:08 PM
This would be a disastrous move. Gotta keep Green to sick on Paul. I'd rather start Boris, since Tiago is just overmatched on both ends this series.

beirmeistr
04-26-2015, 08:08 PM
I don't think he will, tbh..he hasn't went to Belinelli in the past 2 games for extended stretches, he'll probably die with Manu instead IMO, which is more understandable, although I disagree for several reasons(the bench needs Manu)..

I agree that the bench needs manu, but what use is it to leave tony in the game when manu comes in.--- patty should come in with manu so manu is the primary playmaker

tholdren
04-26-2015, 08:11 PM
Mills have been fine. This series just isn't for Cojo, IMO.
why? This is a better series for joseph than next.

ElNono
04-26-2015, 08:13 PM
why? This is a better series for joseph than next.

I feel the offense stagnates a lot when Cojo and Manu are on the floor. Patty is actually shooting pretty well, and as long as he is, he should be in the floor with the 2nd unit.

HEBsteaks
04-26-2015, 08:42 PM
Cojo could make a huge impact, but I think he needs to be placed in the right situation. Hes too aggressive when theres no scoring threats on the floor and too passive when theres a major ball handler on the floor(TP/Manu). It doesnt matter if Cojo is with the starters or with bench players, in the end, he needs to be forced to be in control and distribute.

Arcadian
04-26-2015, 08:44 PM
Starting Diaw was the obviously correct decision in the first place. Blake Griffin is an in-between power forward, not a big one. Boris Diaw is an in-between power forward, not a big one.

...

Start Diaw over Splitter.

???

Profit.

RD2191
04-26-2015, 08:45 PM
Starting Diaw was the obviously correct decision in the first place. Blake Griffin is an in-between power forward, not a big one. Boris Diaw is an in-between power forward, not a big one.

...

Start Diaw over Splitter.

Profit.
diaw has been iffy this series though. griffin has had his way with him.

Arcadian
04-26-2015, 08:46 PM
diaw has been iffy this series though. griffin has had his way with him.

That's OK, we need Diaw's offense. Let Griffin get his points, and focus the defense on containing Paul and the shooters.

Rapper
04-26-2015, 09:00 PM
Starting manu is like starting a turnover mechine

therealtruth
04-27-2015, 06:01 AM
Pop's got to be smart with how to use Beli just like in the Finals. He hit a big 3 in game 3 of Finals but was used just enough.

kuato
04-27-2015, 07:43 AM
:lol Paul is shooting like 95% with Parker covering him..that's not even a knock on Tony, it's very difficult for a PG to successfully defend an opposing, great PG..why would you want to continue that?

Everybody is shooting 95 % when covered by Parker.

kaji157
04-27-2015, 09:11 AM
Considering the problems were Austin Rivers and Chris Paul, the obvious move is to start Patty Mills and sub in Cory Joseph leaving Parker out of the rotation at least the first quarter and see how it pans out.
Clearly Joseph has the size to cover Rivers, and Mills can harass Paul more than Parker. Plus he would be giving us quite the same on offense.
Sure is a bet, but if Manu somehow gets the second unit going this could pay off.

nowitzkikopf
04-27-2015, 09:30 AM
Considering the problems were Austin Rivers and Chris Paul, the obvious move is to start Patty Mills and sub in Cory Joseph leaving Parker out of the rotation at least the first quarter and see how it pans out.
Clearly Joseph has the size to cover Rivers, and Mills can harass Paul more than Parker. Plus he would be giving us quite the same on offense.
Sure is a bet, but if Manu somehow gets the second unit going this could pay off.

this might not be a bad idea actually. except you still start parker, but play a more cojo/mills heavy rotation in the second half. cojo in when rivers is in, mills in when cp3 is in. 4th quarter pg determined by how hot mills is from beyond the arc.

Mouth is Bleeding
04-27-2015, 09:44 AM
Start Cojo IMO