Would you trade Splitter for Kaminsky?

[Cklbmk]

I'm sold on Kaminsky and truly hope the Spurs find a way to grab him in the draft.

What would you give up for him?

[dabom]

Who da fuck is that guy? tbh

[Cklbmk]

Who da fuck is that guy? tbh


College player of the year. 7 foot center who plays good defense and shot 42% from the 3 last year. Lead his team to victory in the tournament.

[BatManu20]

:lol

















































































































































































































































































































































































































































Yes.

[spurraider21]

College player of the year. 7 foot center who plays good defense and shot 42% from the 3 last year. Lead his team to victory in the tournament.
they lost in the finals

[Silver&Black]

I'd trade Splitter for a washing machine....like Jackie Moon did in Semi-Pro.

[Cklbmk]

they lost in the finals


Crap you're right. I thought Kentucky was the final for some reason.

Regardless. They overachieved and he was the main reason why

[Cklbmk]

:lol





Yes.


I think we can all agree that you're a faggot.

[Silver&Black]

Who da fuck is that guy? tbh

SMH....doesn't know who the college player of the year is.

Just stick to calling people faggots...you're a lot better at that than actually talking sports.

:lol Obviously didn't watch the Final Four games
:lol Kaminsky was skull-fucking Kentucky
:lol Had 20 and 10 against undefeated Kentucky
:lol Obviously didn't watch the National Championship
:lol Trying to tell me CP3 leads the Clippers in defensive rating
:lol Kill Yourself

[BatManu20]

Whose shitty troll is the OP tbh? Prob Xmas' new account.

[Cklbmk]

Whose shitty troll is the OP tbh? Prob Xmas' new account.


Not a troll or a 2nd account.

Don't get mad I called you out for your shitty post that makes people scroll a shit ton.

Stop being a shitty poster and you won't get called out for being one.

[100%duncan]

No. He has bust written all over him

[K...]

Rich man's bonner?

[unleashbaynes]

Kaminsky is a fucking stiff, Tiago is proven, so what debate is there to even be had?

[testies]

I stopped at "Kamnisky plays good defense"

[AFBlue]

Maybe, but they'd have to fill his role with another defensive-minded F/C via free agency. And is netting Kaminsky going to offset the differential between Splitter and the next guy? My guess, probably not.

[Trill Clinton]

no. kaminsky is just another matt bonner.

[TheGoldStandard]

Nope but I'd take Willie Cauley Stein.

[Juggity]

I'm not sure where this Splitter hate comes from. Can someone explain this for me? Because I'm pretty sure Splitter being a starter is one of the several factors responsible for the 2012-to-present renaissance of the spurs.

The idea of trading him for the rights to draft a rookie who at best projects to be a replacement-level big man but could also end up being an enormous bust is not just ludicrous but actively insane. Luckily online fans don't control the personnel decisions of the spurs' front office. If they did, the spurs would be known as Knicks west.

[TheGoldStandard]

I'm not sure where this Splitter hate comes from. Can someone explain this for me? Because I'm pretty sure Splitter being a starter is one of the several factors responsible for the 2012-to-present renaissance of the spurs.

The idea of trading him for the rights to draft a rookie who at best projects to be a replacement-level big man but could also end up being an enormous bust is not just ludicrous but actively insane. Luckily online fans don't control the personnel decisions of the spurs' front office. If they did, the spurs would be known as Knicks west. Splitter has been a walking injury and he gets injured in moment we can't even pin point just not in the lineup the next game. He takes forever to heal and for his balls to drop. Plays scared till he's 100% not going to get younger or healthier going forward.

[Budkin]

Fuck no. Splitter still isn't at 100% fool.

[Chomag]

I have never seen a player his age sitting out so many games because of "soreness". Wish he would nut up though because when he isnt being a little bitch he cab be a pretty damn good player.

[Pauleta14]

Wow... What's wrong with you guy???

Howcome Thiago doesn't play well?!? Well, he is INJURED!!!

What a pussy/faggot for not ignoring the handicap...

[AFBlue]

Wow, there some serious vitriole being spewed for a pretty benign question. Are Spurs fans just raging because of the loss yesterday? Honestly, some people on this board should be introspective and look at the way they conduct themselves. For God sake, it's a sports talk message board. We should be able to debate relatively meaningless topics without resorting to name calling and personal attacks.

[itzsoweezee]

Hell no. That guy has an even worse inside game than splitter. And at least tiago can play elite nba level defense. Not to mention the fact that Kaminski said last year that he wasn't even really interested in playing in the nba. He's going to be a bust. Let a loser organization like Sacramento draft him.

[dabom]

SMH....doesn't know who the college player of the year is.

Just stick to calling people faggots...you're a lot better at that than actually talking sports.

:lol Obviously didn't watch the Final Four games
:lol Kaminsky was skull-fucking Kentucky
:lol Had 20 and 10 against undefeated Kentucky
:lol Obviously didn't watch the National Championship
:lol Trying to tell me CP3 leads the Clippers in defensive rating
:lol Kill Yourself

Sorry I don't watch little league basketball. Do they use 8 ft hoops? I stick to watching the pros. More than enough games. Maybe you should watch more spurs games. It might help you out with spurs insight.

[Leetonidas]

:lol jizzing yourself over some college whitey who played good for a few games

GTFO with this shit

[Mr Bones]

Sorry I don't watch little league basketball. Do they use 8 ft hoops? I stick to watching the pros. More than enough games. Maybe you should watch more spurs games. It might help you out with spurs insight.

You have to be incredibly oblivious to have never even heard of Kaminsky. I can't wait until draft time comes and you start offering opinions about who the Spurs should draft.

Feel free to call me a "faggot" and use some sort of laughing emoticon in response.

[dabom]

You have to be incredibly oblivious to have never even heard of Kaminsky. I can't wait until draft time comes and you start offering opinions about who the Spurs should draft.

Feel free to call me a "faggot" and use some sort of laughing emoticon in response.

I never have and never will so STFU if you don't know faggot.

[Texas_Ranger]

Why trade him for another soft player??
But i would trade him for someone that is not made out of glass and can help a team against all the teams not just teams with a big that cant move. Well sometimes even then he is useless. I wouldnt mind if he was a bench player but he is being paid almost 10 million. Thats 5 millions too much for me.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Splitter for Kaminsky, hell no. But i will confess, Kaminsky is my #1 hopeful Spurs pick. He's a massive Bonner upgrade. He can make shots and i think he's already a lesser defensive liability. Even still, a team with both Kaminsky and Splitter is going to need a much bigger dose of shot blocking/rebounding big than Timmy, Baynes, Ayers.

Some kind of Cojo for Kaminsky, yes. But i don't know if that's possible. this would be ideal. upgrade Bonner and move Bonner to coaching. "George Hill" Cory Joseph. "TJ Ford/Gary Neal/Cory Joseph/Patty Mills" his absence behind Tony.

pair/trio of post-Timmy 2nds for Kaminsky, yes. First alternative to a Cojo deal. Takes advantage of expected post-Timmy suckage, but doesn't cost a 1st. Reduced temptation to draft and stash, which is good because draft and stash sucks. Bonner upgrade/Tony depth issues both resolved, the Spurs are free to focus cap, draft options that address the deficiency at defensive/rebounding big man.

a post-Timmy 1st for Kaminsky, yes. multiple post-Timmy 2nds are insufficient bait, option. The Spurs wouldn't do it, because it's a good gamble. some team would take the bait, and the addition of Kaminsky makes the pick a trojan horse. but the spurs have a different way of draft gambling, and it's doubtful they see post-Timmy picks as the valuable trade fodder they are. they think they can find a "Kaminsky" much lower, in foreign country, that they can leave him in, so they can finally add him, or not, after years of bull crap. Ya know, when the big three have further morphed into a Timmy/Manu less version. Cause that's the kinda environment that we want savvy rookies in?

[FkLA]

Nope but I'd take Willie Cauley Stein.

This. Kaminsky can shoot but he's slow and unathletic, Cauley-Stein OTOH has all the tools to be a great defensive specialist...dude was guarding guards on pnr switches like it was nothing tbh.

[Malik Hairston]

No racist, but :lmao White American NBA players..

There's a reason that the number of them has dropped to 9% in today's NBA..

[Malik Hairston]

Why trade him for another soft player??
But i would trade him for someone that is not made out of glass and can help a team against all the teams not just teams with a big that cant move. Well sometimes even then he is useless. I wouldnt mind if he was a bench player but he is being paid almost 10 million. Thats 5 millions too much for me.

What's your opinion on the PG getting paid 13 mil this year?

[apalisoc_9]

Kaminsky is white american..SO no.

Either you're black american or European.

[Texas_Ranger]

What's your opinion on the PG getting paid 13 mil this year?

lol, Tony sucked all year, but the Spurs would probably never trade him. I actualy still think that a 100% Parker can still help the team a lot more than a 100% Tiago.

[BatManu20]

This. Kaminsky can shoot but he's slow and unathletic, Cauley-Stein OTOH has all the tools to be a great defensive specialist...dude was guarding guards on pnr switches like it was nothing tbh.

Would love to get WCS, but he's a top-15 lock imo.

[BatManu20]

Kamisnky and WCS are both top 20 locks so the Spurs won't have a shot at either. We'll prob go Euro with our first pick this year.

[AFBlue]

No racist, but :lmao White American NBA players..

There's a reason that the number of them has dropped to 9% in today's NBA..


Kaminsky is white american..SO no.

Either you're black american or European.

Harlem's groupies taking the bait. Shit takes tbqh.

[TheGoldStandard]

If only the lakers or philly could take Parker off our hands for a draft pick.

[SilverSpur]

I hate the way he lays the ball up when he is so close to the basket. His play around the basket is weak. Soft put backs, weak baby hooks that get blocked or worse he misses.
Your 7'ft tall! Dunk the fucking ball!

[TheGoldStandard]

I hate the way he lays the ball up when he is so close to the basket. His play around the basket is weak. Soft put backs, weak baby hooks that get blocked or worse he misses.
Your 7'ft tall! Dunk the fucking ball!
No upper body strength and can't jump over a phone book. He has active feet which keeps him in front of his assignment and his length can bother people but he bites on quick moves and then subsequently gets the counter and they score and he fouls.

[cjw]

A 7 footer who can't play D in college? Sign me up.

I'd rather have a guy like Baynes than Kaminsky, and that's saying something.

[Spur-Addict]

Is this a joke? Kaminsky :lol

[AFBlue]

I'm not on the Kaminsky bandwagon, but you have to appreciate how effective he was offensively against NBA-caliber athletes like the entire Kentucky frontline. I think he can be a legit contributor on offense, and though he'll never be a defensive stopper I think he has the BBIQ to be a solid team defender.

[tholdren]

No. Tiago sucks but Kaminski will be worse

[lmbebo]

Kaminsky will be a pick in the teens somewhere. Prob have a career as a back up 4/5. Def not a starter. Maybe a poor man's Troy Murphy?

[TheGreatYacht]

SMH....doesn't know who the college player of the year is.

Just stick to calling people faggots...you're a lot better at that than actually talking sports.

:lol Obviously didn't watch the Final Four games
:lol Kaminsky was skull-fucking Kentucky
:lol Had 20 and 10 against undefeated Kentucky
:lol Obviously didn't watch the National Championship
:lol Trying to tell me CP3 leads the Clippers in defensive rating
:lol Kill Yourself
dabom ain't bout this killa :lmao

[phxspurfan]

no to 2015 Psycho T

[cd021]

Rich man's bonner?

Probably better, has a post game. Stretch C not a stretch PF.

[cd021]

Kaminsky will be a pick in the teens somewhere. Prob have a career as a back up 4/5. Def not a starter. Maybe a poor man's Troy Murphy?

No shame in that. If he can be the 3rd big on a good team that's a pretty good career.

[8FOR!3]

Kaminsky can ball, I think he could succeed with the Spurs' staff. But at the same time, if you thought Splitter was soft.....

[100%duncan]

Will kaminsky get pass pick 15? That run has gotta propel him at the top of the lottery. Sorry I dont watch NCAA basketball outside the final four

[Strategic]

I doubt if any lottery team would give up their pick for Splitter. Even if they did Spurs FO wouldn't take Big K.

[TheGoldStandard]

I doubt if any lottery team would give up their pick for Splitter. Even if they did Spurs FO wouldn't take Big K.

They'd probably roll with an undersized guard for some reason or a Euro who's not ready to come over for another 8 years.

[cd021]

Will kaminsky get pass pick 15? That run has gotta propel him at the top of the lottery. Sorry I dont watch NCAA basketball outside the final four

Draft Express has him at 10 to the Heat.

[cd021]

If the Spurs do move Splitter

Atlanta would be a good trade partner. Atlanta gives up the 15th pick for Splitter.

They could absorb his contract ($47.8 Million to 9 players including Splitter) and still have up to $17.3 million (including roster charges) to resign Milsap and Carroll.

He would come off the bench, minimizing his chance of injury. As the third big, he'd be great for them with all of the spacing. He can play alongside Milsap or Horford (who can both shoot). They have been looking for a starting center for a while. He is only 30 and only making $8.5 million next season and $8.25 the following season.

Spurs pick up a second first rounder. and clear out $26 million in cap (including cap holds to KL & DG) if you include roster charges for the 5 empty roster spots its $23 million. [Parker, Diaw, Mills, Green, Leonard, Anderson, 15th Pick]

[Stabula]

No

[BatManu20]

If the Spurs do move Splitter

Atlanta would be a good trade partner. Atlanta gives up the 15th pick for Splitter.

They could absorb his contract ($47.8 Million to 9 players including Splitter) and still have up to $17.3 million (including roster charges) to resign Milsap and Carroll.

He would come off the bench, minimizing his chance of injury. As the third big, he'd be great for them with all of the spacing. He can play alongside Milsap or Horford (who can both shoot). They have been looking for a starting center for a while. He is only 30 and only making $8.5 million next season and $8.25 the following season.

Spurs pick up a second first rounder. and clear out $26 million in cap (including cap holds to KL & DG) if you include roster charges for the 5 empty roster spots its $23 million. [Parker, Diaw, Mills, Green, Leonard, Anderson, 15th Pick]

No way would they trade what's basically a lottery pick for a soft, injury-prone Center who's on the wrong side of 30. Zero chance.

[Mal]

No way would they trade what's basically a lottery pick for a soft, injury-prone Center who's on the wrong side of 30. Zero chance.

What ? Atlanta need bench if they want to take another step. Splitter is good C with reasonable contract. I dont see how Budenholzer wouldnt want him to backup Sap/Horford. I dont think that Spurs should trade Splitter. I dont think breaking up half of the team to bring max money FA is a good move.

[AFBlue]

They'd probably roll with an undersized guard for some reason or a Euro who's not ready to come over for another 8 years.

Pretty sure the last time they traded up into the top half of the first round it worked out ok.













Hint: They got Kawhi Leonard

[BatManu20]

What ? Atlanta need bench if they want to take another step. Splitter is good C with reasonable contract. I dont see how Budenholzer wouldnt want him to backup Sap/Horford. I dont think that Spurs should trade Splitter. I dont think breaking up half of the team to bring max money FA is a good move.

I agree that Splitter is a solid player, no doubt. But that 15th overall pick holds more value than he does. You could get a good, young player on a rookie contract with that pick. A player with potential to grow into something more. Tiago's hit his ceiling and I just really don't see any team trading a commodity like a high draft pick for him.

[Mal]

I agree that Splitter is a solid player, no doubt. But that 15th overall pick holds more value than he does. You could get a good, young player on a rookie contract with that pick. A player with potential to grow into something more. Tiago's hit his ceiling and I just really don't see any team trading a commodity like a high draft pick for him.

Atlanta has new ownership. I do believe they dont have to wait for rookie to develop, since they`ve already got good team with couple pieces missing.

[CGD]

If he's available in the 11-15 range, I'd explore the option but not for splitter. It's an apple to oranges comparison of skill set, and Splitter is too valuable of a defender (when healthy).

[PingPong]

http://i.imgur.com/OwcacVB.jpg

[DrunkTXLabrat]

http://i.imgur.com/OwcacVB.jpg

He's Ned Pops bastard, bring him to the castle black.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

...and silver.

[thekingrobert]

a big man with no defense no thanks

[mkurts]

Splitter playing like a great king .... keep Splitter and play him 30 minutes a game.

[Cklbmk]

So many people acting like Kaminsky is bad at defense. His defense is projected to be well above average and is one of his main selling points. It's like none of you guys watched him play

[Cklbmk]

a big man with no defense no thanks


Whos that? We're not discussing anyone with subpar defense. Everyone in this thread is above average defensively

[thekingrobert]

his defense does not translate to the NBA as his lateral quickness is below avg

[kaji157]

Is Splitter contract really tradeable?
A player that can barely play 50 games a season and can turn into Vagina at anytime?

[cd021]

No way would they trade what's basically a lottery pick for a soft, injury-prone Center who's on the wrong side of 30. Zero chance.

I'd say its 50/50. FYI, 30 for a center is pretty young. Its fairly common for bigs now a-days to play till their mid 30s. He probably could play another 5 of 6 seasons. For a soft player he is a terrific defender. Shutting down L.A & Dirk in the PS. He ranked as the 6th best center defensively last season in DRPM and even with injury he was 12th this season.



That would be a great trade for both teams. Atlanta needs size, both bigs are 6'8 and 6'10 with Scott at 6'7 and Antic at 6'10. Splitter had his best season coming off the bench for the Spurs, I would think he would be as successful with additional spacing and playing against inferior competition in the east.

Atlanta probably isn't going to find an impact player in the draft for next season and their starting 5 is already set (assuming Milsap and Carroll are back). Moving the 15th for a starting caliber big makes plenty of sense. Cleveland gave up 2 first rounders for Mosgov, who isn't as good as Splitter is.

Spurs could use that to clear out max cap space and add someone like Sam Decker in the draft.

They could use their second 1st rounder to stash a player like George Lucas or add another rookie in someone like Justin Anderson to fill out the bench on the cheap.


I agree that Splitter is a solid player, no doubt. But that 15th overall pick holds more value than he does. You could get a good, young player on a rookie contract with that pick. A player with potential to grow into something more. Tiago's hit his ceiling and I just really don't see any team trading a commodity like a high draft pick for him.

It really depends on the teams needs picking in the lottery. Utah for example has had a slew of lottery picks but a 29th pick turned out to be the most promising prospect. They could end up trading their pick if they think they can get an experienced starter who makes sense with their core. Players in the middle of the 1st round generally peak as starters. Depending on that player, it could taken 3 or 4 seasons for them to reach that potential.


Splitters age fits with a team like Atlanta's core players age range better than a 20 year that could take 3 seasons before he can make a big impact.

[cd021]

Is Splitter contract really tradeable?
A player that can barely play 50 games a season and can turn into Vagina at anytime?

The injury thing gets a bit overstated sometimes. He isn't Nene. Guy did play 172 of 178 games between '11-'13. He gets banged up alot though.

Of course it is. An above average two way player making less than $17 million over the next two seasons. Hibberts making about that in one season. Splitters deal would be pretty easy to move depending on the asking price of the Spurs.

[Johnny RIngo]

his defense does not translate to the NBA as his lateral quickness is below avg

Yup. Just another overrated white American player. Not sure why so many Spurs fans want Bargnani 2.0.

[Cklbmk]

his defense does not translate to the NBA as his lateral quickness is below avg


The scouts disagree.

[kaji157]

The injury thing gets a bit overstated sometimes. He isn't Nene. Guy did play 172 of 178 games between '11-'13. He gets banged up alot though.

Of course it is. An above average two way player making less than $17 million over the next two seasons. Hibberts making about that in one season. Splitters deal would be pretty easy to move depending on the asking price of the Spurs.

Yeah, but how many of those games are played by Vagina, the guy has played 2 shitty playoffs out of 3 and he is now shitting all over the floor in his 4th playoff run.

By all means he is as of now a player that shrinks under pressure. The two FT he missed yesterday were all about plain fear.

[thekingrobert]

what scouts? where are you reading this please show me

[alfahdlan]

Can the Spurs move up the draft for Bobby Portis instead, like the deal we have for K Leonard vice G Hill?

[AFBlue]

Can the Spurs move up the draft for Bobby Portis instead, like the deal we have for K Leonard vice G Hill?

Theoretically, yes. Of course the team they trade with has to find whatever the Spurs are offering of equal value to a mid-first round pick, and they must either have the cap space to absorb the contract or be willing to also send a player back in return along with the pick.

All that makes it unlikely, but not impossible.

[SilverSpur]

He would have to put on some muscle, like 20 maybe 25 pounds worth.

[coachmac87]

http://i.imgur.com/OwcacVB.jpg

That's awesome.

BTW who's the girl??

[alfahdlan]

Thanks. Bobby Portis is an interesting PF pick that could help Spurs contain other bigs without sacrificing offense.

[PingPong]

That's awesome.

BTW who's the girl??

https://www.google.com.br/search?q=paola+oliveira&biw=1164&bih=845&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=VfBQVYCdK8qlgwTk8ICwBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

[rudwick]

Read this thread and mentally replace Kaminsky with Nowitzky and American with European and see if it still makes sense.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

He's Bonner 2.0 the way that Kyle Anderson is Diaw 2.0

[spurraider21]

i think this thread gave Chinook an aneurysm