Fluke win by Clippers ?

[Mal]

First of all I didnt like how refs allowed them to use hands in defense and then they allow to simply jump over the back for offensive rebounding. Regarding that, Clippers have won because of mid range jumpers. Paul, Crawford and this scrub Austin Rivers couldnt miss. Also pnr defense was atroucious. Clippers take those shots from simple pnr and late help from big. Without series of stops and transition offense Spurs couldnt manage runs. I dont think Clippers had some serious points droughts. Point for Doc Rivers for proper adjustments. Now it`s time for Pop. :lobt2:

[FlAVaK]

:pop: "we just missed some shots"


According to NBA.com's SportVU player tracking data, the Spurs went just 10-for-32 (31.3 percent) on field goal attempts that were "uncontested," meaning there was no defender within 3 1/2 feet of the shooter at the time of the release.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/chris-paul-leads-clippers-past-spurs-to-game-4-win--knots-series-at-2-2-000236884.html

[ThaBigFundamental21]

:pop: "we just missed some shots"

We really haven't been able to knock down shots. Its mind boggling. I don't know why the Spurs continue to miss wide open 3 after 3. They are getting good looks, something has to give. This season as a whole has seen the Offense regress.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/chris-paul-leads-clippers-past-spurs-to-game-4-win--knots-series-at-2-2-000236884.html

[Maddog]

There is some truth to this- a lot of missed shots- free throws included.
Unfortunately the margin for error in this series is slim to none without homecourt advantage and a 56 win team

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Fluke win indeed. Spurs can win game 5 or 7.

[spursparker9]

Put Kawhi on Rivers

[Mugen]

The missed open shots have been a trend ALL SEASON long. The defensive effort was very, very poor. Not much you can do about the offense, especially if TP and Danny continue to shit the bed.

But you can't play D like that against one of the best offensive teams in the league and expect to win. Nothing flukey about the result when you try to outscore the Clippers tbh....

[MarCowMar]

We misunderestimated Austin Rivers.

[baseline bum]

Game 2 was the fluke tbh

[Darius Bieber]

The only fluke wins were by the Spurs.

[FromWayDowntown]

Don't diminish the Clippers' effort and quality yesterday that way. They were great. They played with urgency and aggression and made the plays they needed to make to win a must-have game. For all the talk of their likely fatigue, the Clippers nutted up and played hard through their tiredness. It was an elite performance in a gigantic spot for them.

The Spurs didn't match the Clippers in any category and even when they played well enough to briefly take a lead, just crumbled with poor execution and bad decisions in a crucial stretch of that game.

The Clippers earned that win.

[Clipper Nation]

:cry "Every time we lose, it's a fluke, and the refs rigged it (even though we've been getting almost every call and no-call all series)!" :cry

[Blizzardwizard]

:cry "Every time we lose, it's a fluke, and the refs rigged it (even though we've been getting almost every call and no-call all series)!" :cry

What? :lol

Flop Paul and pussy Griffin have been having their way with the refs. :lol

[DarrinS]

No fluke. Spurs were laser focused on D in game 3. Not so much in game 4.

[crc21209]

Nah no fluke, the Spurs just didnt bring the proper energy and focus to win the game. Game 2 wasnt a fluke either, the Spurs just made the right plays and the Clippers didnt (Griffin's turnover at the end of the 4th). However, Rivers going off yesterday was a fluke. Highly doubt he sniffs more than 10 points again in a game this series. He's not a good enough shooter to do it...

[hyhy]

We were missing open shots throughout the whole season tbh, makes me think twice about whether an open shot is actually good or bad.. Sometimes players shoot better when theres a defender closing out, and you have to get your shot off in rhythm, instead of having so much time on their hands that they think twice about it.

[boutons_deux]

shooting nearly 55% for the game ain't no fluke

see their season FG% season and vs spurs

http://www.nba.com/clippers/stats/team

[Perry Mason]

The only fluke wins were by the Spurs.

Uh that's a negative. Are you a bot or any actual person? I've never seen a post by you that contributed to the discussion.

[hater]

Put Kawhi on Rivers

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

What? :lol

Flop Paul and pussy Griffin have been having their way with the refs. :lol
:lol Sharts
:lol Hiring a Leafs castoff as their coach
:lol #ItWas3-0
:lol Dive Couture and Pussy Thornton
:lol "Best hockey in Cali"
:lol Only team in Cali with no Cups and no Stadium Series wins
:lol Regular Season Champions banners
:lol That cute little team

[Perry Mason]

Don't diminish the Clippers' effort and quality yesterday that way. They were great. They played with urgency and aggression and made the plays they needed to make to win a must-have game. For all the talk of their likely fatigue, the Clippers nutted up and played hard through their tiredness. It was an elite performance in a gigantic spot for them.

The Spurs didn't match the Clippers in any category and even when they played well enough to briefly take a lead, just crumbled with poor execution and bad decisions in a crucial stretch of that game.

The Clippers earned that win.

I feel the same. This was the closest thing to a closeout game that is not a closeout game. Spurs have shown some poor consistency and execution in these games - Exhibit A was the Pelicans game. The Spurs have to be ready to take an opponent's best shot every game. The desperation and determination does seem less this year. There is a lot of satisfaction from 5.

This transition period for the Spurs is very hard, and injuries to TP and Splitter have made it worse. And with TP, his body just does not recover at the same speed (his own words), so the chances of seeing some kind of playoff renaissance are unlikely. So much of the future can go well or poorly, depending upon how aligned Kawhi's growth is with the decline of Manu and TP. If they are too misaligned, then we could see no repeat and some mediocrity before the Spurs can go deep in the playoffs again.

[Budkin]

The only fluke wins were by the Spurs.

I know you don't honestly think Game 3 was a fluke.

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol Sharts
:lol Hiring a Leafs castoff as their coach
:lol #ItWas3-0
:lol Dive Couture and Pussy Thornton
:lol "Best hockey in Cali"
:lol Only team in Cali with no Cups and no Stadium Series wins
:lol Regular Season Champions banners
:lol That cute little team

Nice deflection from Flop Paul and Pussy Griffin.

0 rings :lol
Other LA team shitty but still ahead of the Clips :lol
Robinson 71 point rape :lol
Regular season cucks :lol
That cute little team :lol

[Ditty]

Clippers back court scored 80 something points (too lazy to add up) last night. Don't see that happening again, if we adjust our defense a bit. If they continue to knock down these contested shots, and we miss these open opportunities then fuck it they deserve to win this series.

[Clipper Nation]

Nice deflection from Flop Paul and Pussy Griffin.

0 rings :lol
Other LA team shitty but still ahead of the Clips :lol
Robinson 71 point rape :lol
Regular season cucks :lol
That cute little team :lol
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/188199/-1_medium.jpg

[Blizzardwizard]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/188199/-1_medium.jpg


http://www.clipperscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nba_g_clippers_gb1_600.jpg

[TheGoldStandard]

Nope, not a fluke and will be the Spurs undoing. There seems to be a logic with that team and with many around here that they can flip a switch and play better. There needs to be urgency and desperation in game 5 but I don't know who will bring that energy or will power.

[ElNono]

they earned it, we did not. Onto next game.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.clipperscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nba_g_clippers_gb1_600.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MC84eLi.jpg

[cd98]

When the most efficient offense in the NBA has a good shooting day, it can't be a fluke. But no need to jump ship. The Spurs had the 4th best offense, I believe, and they were top 5 in defense, so no reason they can't win two of the next three. That's why they play the games.

[timtonymanu]

Not even. Just another gutless performance by the champs. I'm much more angry at the Spurs right now.

[Chomag]

No Fluke, Clippers just nutted up.

That word Fluke gets way overused around here,

[Blizzardwizard]

http://i.imgur.com/MC84eLi.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/raising-stanley-cup-banner-kings-blown-sharks-nhl-season-opener-article-1.1968378

Looks like Banner Night to me.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/raising-stanley-cup-banner-kings-blown-sharks-nhl-season-opener-article-1.1968378

Looks like Banner Night to me.
Every night in San Jose is Bannerless Night :lol

[quentin_compson]

Nothing flukey about this win. The Clippers simply were the better team, and the Spurs had no answer for Blake and especially Paul. Everytime the Spurs seemed on the verge of taking over this game, they either made silly mistakes, missed open shots or both.
Let's hope it was just a bad game for the Spurs and that they still have enough in the tank both physically and mentally to play two or three really good games - because that's what it's gonna take to beat the Clippers.

[Horse]

The only fluke wins were by the Spurs.

I know most of what you say is retarded but how is a 27pt win a fluke. And game 2 we controlled and blew it before they blew it.

[Horse]

It was not a fluke Pop sure helped them with his dumbass decisions like going hack-a-shaq when we finally regained the lead and momentum.

[tmtcsc]

No, not a fluke win at all. Clippers played better and won because the Spurs played bad, careless basketball - especially late in the game. Rivers' performance was a fluke and I doubt he has a repeat performance. However, it doesn't matter now. He helped deliver a big road win for his team and that's more than what anyone expected of him.

[spurtech09]

:cry "Every time we lose, it's a fluke, and the refs rigged it (even though we've been getting almost every call and no-call all series)!" :crygame4 yes the clips had a lot of help from the refs.....

[monkeypunk]

We didn't play the swarming defense in gm4 that we did in gm3. Rivers night was probably a fluke but the poor d is what lost the game.

If pop game plans for rivers and we play the type of aware defense we are capable of, we win. Pretty simple actually.

[UZER]

I think playing and early on a quick turnaround was also a big factor. Spurs are known to struggle with early starts much less less that 48 hrs in an intense playoff series.

[DPG21920]

Clearly a fluke by every measure. That doesn't mean the Clips didn't play well, but when you are talking about flukes, it's about outliers. Spurs were the 3rd best FT shooting team in the regular season - have been one of the worst teams in the PO. Spurs have missed way more uncontested looks than you can reasonably account for. They missed an inordinate amount of 3's, even at home.

Clearly a fluke. If Spurs just play to their averages (which with the looks they have gotten should be happening) Clips can do nothing.

[Robz4000]

Clearly a fluke by every measure. That doesn't mean the Clips didn't play well, but when you are talking about flukes, it's about outliers. Spurs were the 3rd best FT shooting team in the regular season - have been one of the worst teams in the PO. Spurs have missed way more uncontested looks than you can reasonably account for. They missed an inordinate amount of 3's, even at home.

Clearly a fluke. If Spurs just play to their averages (which with the looks they have gotten should be happening) Clips can do nothing.

We're four games in and its still happening. All season long the Spurs have struggled with their shooting (including FTs). Spurs themselves may be regressing to the mean after shooting lights out last year.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

I don't expect Austin Rivers to make those shots, and let's be honest, it was kind of a fluke in the fact that the Clippers made more shots than they usually make and the Spurs are missing easy shots which the Clippers have nothing to do with. However the Clippers played with more energy, effort, and urgency, and that may have resulted in that. The Spurs seem to be in cruise mode right now and hopefully game 4 was the huge wakeup call that they needed. It's time for some of the Spurs players like Parker, Ginobili, Splitter, and Green to grow a pair because the team needs them to show up to be successful.

[DMC]

Why does any of this matter? Are you looking for ways to feel more confident in your team's chances? Is this the early stages of recovery, step one... denial?

[SilverSpur]

Spurs will win series 4-2

[Clipper Nation]

the Spurs are missing easy shots which the Clippers have nothing to do with.

Clippers have been shooting 44% on uncontested shots this series, not that much better than the Spurs (42.1%). This whole :cry "we're just missing shots, it's all a fluke" :cry narrative is one of the faggiest takes I've seen from upstairs, and that's saying something from the board who's brought us gems like "Kawhi is just a role player."

[DPG21920]

No, you're wrong ^. Spurs are missing open looks at a worse rate than Clips and getting just as many if not more of them. Not only that, Spurs went from the 3rd best FT shooting team in the league to one of the worst. Even at home, Spurs shot ridiculously below their 3PT % norm.

The same reason many of us called GM3 blowout - it's obvious to anyone watching that the Spurs are beating themselves. Credit to Clippers for playing well enough to hang around games and giving themselves a chance to steal games, but Spurs should be beating the Clips and they will.

[DPG21920]

DP

[Clipper Nation]

No, you're wrong ^.
:lol Those are the actual stats, according to SportVu.

[DPG21920]

:lol Those are the actual stats, according to SportVu.

I didn't say your stats were wrong. I said your analysis was.

[DPG21920]

Basically, while neither team is shooting well uncontested, if definitely feels like the Spurs are creating more open looks. When you look specifically at 3PT shooting, it definitely feels like the Spurs are shooting net worse than Clips compared to their averages - especially on uncontested shots.

Then you factor in the massive FT dip from regular season to playoffs and it all adds up to the Spurs having an off series shooting more than I would say the Clips are.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Clippers have been shooting 44% on uncontested shots this series, not that much better than the Spurs (42.1%). This whole :cry "we're just missing shots, it's all a fluke" :cry narrative is one of the faggiest takes I've seen from upstairs, and that's saying something from the board who's brought us gems like "Kawhi is just a role player."
Way to take only a small portion of my post.

[DPG21920]

LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS / DEFENDER 4+ FEET AWAY ON THREE-POINT ATTEMPTS

Chris Paul
(RS)115-for-279 (41.22%) (PO's)8-for-12 (66.67%) (Net Diff)+25.45%

J.J. Redick
(RS)164-for-358 (45.81%) (PO's)8-for-19 (42.11%) (Net Diff)-3.70%

Matt Barnes
(RS)117-for-330 (35.45%) (PO's)3-for-11 (27.27%) (Net Diff)-8.18%

Jamal Crawford
(RS)73-for-198 (36.87%) (PO's)3-for-7 (42.86%) (Net Diff)+5.99%

Austin Rivers
(RS)39-for-121 (32.23%) (PO's)2-for-4 (50.00%) (Net Diff)+17.77%

ENTIRE TEAM
(RS)676-for-1733 (39.00%) (PO's)25-for-58 (43.10%) (Net Diff)+4.10%



SAN ANTONIO SPURS / DEFENDER 4+ FEET AWAY ON THREE-POINT ATTEMPTS

Tony Parker
(RS)33-for-75 (44.00%) (PO's)0-for-3 (0.00%) (Net Diff)-44.00%

Danny Green
(RS)165-for-371 (44.47%) (PO's)6-for-19 (31.58%) (Net Diff)-12.89%

Kawhi Leonard
(RS)61-for-169 (36.09%) (PO's)7-for-10 (70.00%) (Net Diff)+33.91%

Manu Ginobili
(RS)69-for-211 (32.70%) (PO's)3-for-9 (33.33%) (Net Diff)+0.63%

Patty Mills
(RS)51-for-142 (35.92%) (PO's)7-for-13 (53.85%) (Net Diff)+17.93%

Boris Diaw
(RS)51-for-164 (32.32%) (PO's)0-for-9 (0.00%) (Net Diff)-32.32%

Marco Belinelli
(RS)72-for-193 (37.31%) (PO's)4-for-10 (40.00%) (Net Diff)+2.69%

Matt Bonner
(RS)46-for-121 (38.02%) (PO's)1-for-5 (20.00%) (Net Diff)-18.02%

ENTIRE TEAM
(RS)593-for-1574 (37.67%) (PO's) 28-for-79 (35.44%) (Net Diff)-2.23%

As you can see, the Spurs have not only created a lot more open 3's than LAC, but they are hitting them at a worse than average clip uncontested, while LAC is hitting slightly above. It's a legit issue.

[TheGoldStandard]

LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS / DEFENDER 4+ FEET AWAY ON THREE-POINT ATTEMPTS

Chris Paul
(RS)115-for-279 (41.22%) (PO's)8-for-12 (66.67%) (Net Diff)+25.45%

J.J. Redick
(RS)164-for-358 (45.81%) (PO's)8-for-19 (42.11%) (Net Diff)-3.70%

Matt Barnes
(RS)117-for-330 (35.45%) (PO's)3-for-11 (27.27%) (Net Diff)-8.18%

Jamal Crawford
(RS)73-for-198 (36.87%) (PO's)3-for-7 (42.86%) (Net Diff)+5.99%

Austin Rivers
(RS)39-for-121 (32.23%) (PO's)2-for-4 (50.00%) (Net Diff)+17.77%

ENTIRE TEAM
(RS)676-for-1733 (39.00%) (PO's)25-for-58 (43.10%) (Net Diff)+4.10%



SAN ANTONIO SPURS / DEFENDER 4+ FEET AWAY ON THREE-POINT ATTEMPTS

Tony Parker
(RS)33-for-75 (44.00%) (PO's)0-for-3 (0.00%) (Net Diff)-44.00%

Danny Green
(RS)165-for-371 (44.47%) (PO's)6-for-19 (31.58%) (Net Diff)-12.89%

Kawhi Leonard
(RS)61-for-169 (36.09%) (PO's)7-for-10 (70.00%) (Net Diff)+33.91%

Manu Ginobili
(RS)69-for-211 (32.70%) (PO's)3-for-9 (33.33%) (Net Diff)+0.63%

Patty Mills
(RS)51-for-142 (35.92%) (PO's)7-for-13 (53.85%) (Net Diff)+17.93%

Boris Diaw
(RS)51-for-164 (32.32%) (PO's)0-for-9 (0.00%) (Net Diff)-32.32%

Marco Belinelli
(RS)72-for-193 (37.31%) (PO's)4-for-10 (40.00%) (Net Diff)+2.69%

Matt Bonner
(RS)46-for-121 (38.02%) (PO's)1-for-5 (20.00%) (Net Diff)-18.02%

ENTIRE TEAM
(RS)593-for-1574 (37.67%) (PO's) 28-for-79 (35.44%) (Net Diff)-2.23%

As you can see, the Spurs have not only created a lot more open 3's than LAC, but they are hitting them at a worse than average clip uncontested, while LAC is hitting slightly above. It's a legit issue.

Boris needs to be slapped everytime he catches a pass around the 3 point line and decides to pump fake drawing his defender in who doesn't bite on the shot who just casually follows his fat ass into the paint and cuts him off then futility tries to throw up some weird ass sweeping hook or passes it out.

[pageC4]

Despite anyones trash talk or reference to referee bias the truth is that this is seven game series. The winner will emerge and when the winner is announced both sides better respect that and not say B.S. stuff like "the refs screwed us" or "we beat ourselves." Its so disrespectful to take away a victory. Spurs deserve the wins they got, clippers deserve theirs.

[DPG21920]

To summarize the series to this point:

The Spurs, despite having 3 of their 5 starters play the worst basketball of their careers (I don't believe I'm using hyperbole either - TP/Tiago/Danny have been that bad) are still creating more unconsted looks than the Clippers. Not only are they creating those looks, but they are somehow missing them at a worse clip than LAC, even at home. They also went from being the 3rd best FT shooting team in the league to one of the worst this series. Beyond that, Pop has coached one of his worst series (despite the series lead until tonight) with the hack strategy backfiring in every way imaginable (whether it just flat out not working or having unintended consequences) and his rotations being very questionable.

Despite all of that, Spurs somehow were still up 3-2 and still have a shot to win it in game 7. Not fluky at all.

[pageC4]

To summarize the series to this point:

The Spurs, despite having 3 of their 5 starters play the worst basketball of their careers (I don't believe I'm using hyperbole either - TP/Tiago/Danny have been that bad) are still creating more unconsted looks than the Clippers. Not only are they creating those looks, but they are somehow missing them at a worse clip than LAC, even at home. They also went from being the 3rd best FT shooting team in the league to one of the worst this series. Beyond that, Pop has coached one of his worst series (despite the series lead until tonight) with the hack strategy backfiring in every way imaginable (whether it just flat out not working or having unintended consequences) and his rotations being very questionable.

Despite all of that, Spurs somehow were still up 3-2 and still have a shot to win it in game 7. Not fluky at all.Shot percentage goes both as though. Remember that the Clippers also have one of the best offenses in the game and the games we loose are also ones where our guys are having bad games. Defense on both teams has been smothering at times.