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FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 02:37 PM
Defense? The Globe is united against blacks. You're playing the role of Defense
:lol is that what you tell yourself. good luck with that delusion. You fit in right in with a lot of people I have met is MS and AL. Dumb motherfuckers.
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 02:38 PM
ah thanks. I notice 101 of those detained were released without charges.
No sweat. Glad to see you posting again frankly. Need less stupid not more.
boutons_deux
04-30-2015, 02:46 PM
ah thanks. I notice 101 of those detained were released without charges.
yep, no crime, just militarized cops intimidating dissenters. No doubt the cops have all their names on file, and probably in the public record, so employers will not hire them.
spurraider21
04-30-2015, 03:00 PM
:lol i love how we see the exact same shit being flung by both sides of the spectrum on these racial issues
scenario A: white people do something wrong
lets say white guy kills black guy. the pro-white side will always deflect to "but what about black on black violence"
scenario B: black people do something wrong
lets take the most recent riots, which are predominantly black. the pro-black side starts deflecting to "lets talk about white riots"
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2015, 03:14 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-officials-no-immediate-decision-gray-case-083053498.html
BALTIMORE (AP) — Police completed their investigation into the death of Freddie Gray a day earlier than planned Thursday and delivered it to the chief prosecutor in Baltimore, who pleaded for patience and peace while she decides whether to bring charges.
The deputy commissioner also revealed a new detail that raises still more questions about what the officers involved have told investigators: He said the van carrying Gray to the police station made a previously undisclosed stop that was captured on video by a "privately owned camera."
A grocery store owner told The Associated Press later Thursday that it was his closed-circuit security camera that provided the recording. Speaking in Korean, Jung Hyun Hwang said officers came in last week to make a copy, and that the only other copy was stolen, along with his video equipment, when looters destroyed his store Monday night.
He told the AP that he didn't see what the recording showed of the police van on April 12.
State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby must review the evidence, consider charges and decide how to move forward in the death of Gray, who suffered severe spinal injuries at some point after he tried to run from police on April 12, and died a week later.
Police Commissioner Anthony Batts took no questions and provided no details about the report, which he said represents the work of more than 30 investigators. Questions about the case must now go to Mosby, he said.
"I understand the frustration; I understand the sense of urgency," Batts said. "That is why we have finished it a day ahead of time."
Batts said his officers would keep probing at the direction of the state's attorney, while Mosby stressed that her office is doing its own investigation.
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"We are not relying solely on their findings but rather the facts that we have gathered and verified. We ask for the public to remain patient and peaceful and to trust the process of the justice system," her statement said.
Batts left it to Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis to release yet another official timeline of what happened to Gray after his arrest nearly three weeks ago.
In all, the previously undisclosed stop now makes four stops between the time officers arrested Gray and his arrival at a police station, where he was found unresponsive. He was hospitalized in critical condition and died a week later.
Batts and Davis said nothing more about when or how investigators obtained the previously undisclosed video or learned about the additional stop. However, five of the six officers gave statements to investigators the day Gray was injured, and as recently as a week ago, the stop was not part of the official timeline, suggesting investigators learned of it later.
Gray was arrested after he made eye contact with an officer and ran. Officers chased him down and handcuffed him behind his back. Bystander videos recorded police loading him, dragging his legs, into one of two metal compartments in the back of the van.
Police earlier said the van stopped once so that officers could put Gray in "leg irons" because he had become "irate;" stopped again because the driver asked for an additional unit to check on Gray's condition, and then again to put an additional prisoner in the van's other compartment before arriving at the station.
Now police are saying an additional stop was made before the driver asked officers to check on his condition. They said nothing about this stop other than its location — a desolate intersection where the grocery store is surrounded by vacant lots.
Last week, Batts had said the second prisoner told investigators the driver did not speed, make sudden stops or "drive erratically" during the trip, and that Gray was "was still moving around, that he was kicking and making noises" up until the van arrived at the police station.
Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake sought to dispel any notion that the police report would bring a swift and public conclusion to the case. "Whatever time the state's attorney's office needs to make that determination, the family wants to get it right," she said Wednesday after meeting with Gray's family and legal team.
"This family wants justice and they want justice that comes at the right time and not too soon," said Hassan Murphy, one of the family's lawyers.
Meanwhile, protests over Gray's death spread Wednesday night to other cities including Boston, New York and Washington, making it clear that tensions over the case are far from subsiding. The demonstrations were mostly peaceful, but police made many arrests, including at least 60 in New York.
Gray's death was only the latest high-profile case of a black man dying as the result of a police encounter. Similar protests erupted over the killings of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri; Eric Garner in New York last year, and Walter Scott in South Carolina. Scott was shot in the back by a white officer who has since been charged with murder.
Clipper Nation
04-30-2015, 03:46 PM
Sources told a Baltimore television station that the medical examiner found Freddie Gray died as a result of slamming his head against the inside of a police van, breaking his neck, Reuters reported Thursday.
The local ABC affiliate reported sources said the medical examiner’s report, contained in the police report handed over Thursday to the state attorney, found Gray’s wound was consistent with the bolt inside the back of the police van.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/30/baltimore-police-hand-results-freddie-gray-probe-over-to-state-offer-few/
Clipper Nation
04-30-2015, 03:49 PM
A number of criminologists believe police homicides are near their nadir. In New York City, for example, 91 people were fatally shot by police officers in 1971 — and a record-low eight in 2013, the last year for which figures are available. In Los Angeles, officers used "categorical" force — gunfire, chokings and other violence that could lead to death — in 84 of nearly 149,000 arrests in 2012, down 17 percent in seven years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/us/no-sharp-rise-seen-in-police-killings-though-increased-focus-may-suggest-otherwise.html?_r=0
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2015, 04:07 PM
cue Boutons saying the medical examiner and police are lying.
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 04:09 PM
cue Boutons saying the medical examiner and police are lying.
cue the usual dumbasses that ignore the conflict of interest inherent in LEOBR granted extra right justifying skepticism in any case.
boutons_deux
04-30-2015, 04:09 PM
cue Boutons saying the medical examiner and police are lying.
the police for sure, and "their" prosecutors, too, the police's medical examiner, why not? the more lies, the merrier
Infinite_limit
04-30-2015, 04:15 PM
the police for sure, and "their" prosecutors, too, the police's medical examiner, why not? the more lies, the merrier
"the teachers fault"
Dirk Oneanddoneski
04-30-2015, 04:26 PM
Sources told a Baltimore television station that the medical examiner found Freddie Gray died as a result of slamming his head against the inside of a police van, breaking his neck, Reuters reported Thursday.
The local ABC affiliate reported sources said the medical examiner’s report, contained in the police report handed over Thursday to the state attorney, found Gray’s wound was consistent with the bolt inside the back of the police van.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/30/baltimore-police-hand-results-freddie-gray-probe-over-to-state-offer-few/
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boutons_deux
04-30-2015, 04:55 PM
At Last Night’s Solidarity March, the NYPD ‘Came Out Swinging’
Given the NYPD’s pervasive lack of transparency, there will probably never be a public accounting of why they so dramatically shifted gears last night in deciding to aggressively corral, arrest, and terrorize demonstrators marching in solidarity with the protests in Baltimore.
Last night’s emergency march was organized by the Justice League and other groups to respond both to the death of Freddie Gray at the hands of police and the aggressive and demeaning response of Baltimore’s political and police leaders. The crowd of several thousand was racially diverse and included families with small children and the elderly. Given the police handling of previous protests on this issue the crowd assumed that a march would be allowed despite the threatening tone set by the NYPD through leaflets and announcements ordering people to stay off the streets.
According to National Lawyer Guild member Gideon Oliver, quoted in Gothamist (http://gothamist.com/2015/04/30/nypd_lrad_police_state_fascism.php#photo-1), the police were well aware that people intended to march in the street regardless of police threats and that the police were given every opportunity to arrange a march restricted to one lane of 6th Ave. The police adamantly refused, setting the stage for a major and totally unnecessary and avoidable confrontation.
As demonstrators moved out of Union Square and into the street, they were immediately confronted by hundreds of police who pushed and shoved them, knocked people down and arrested dozens. Families with children were terrified and attempted to flee the scene. Dante Barry of Million Hoodies tweeted: “I watched 10 year old scream for his life last night in fear that the NYPD would kill him while protesting. Never forgetting that moment.”
Journalist Rashad Drakeford reported (https://instagram.com/p/2GWgQ-Erwl/), “They were pushing kids and knocking women in the head with nightsticks. One mother came over to us with her young son asking for protection because the cops were literally pushing and knocking down kids in the crowd. Her son couldn't have been over 13 years old and was in tears and I mean bawling, uncontrollable tears. He just stood behind his mother as she tried to console him.”
Russell Simmons’s political director Michael Skolnik was clearly shaken by the police response, tweeting: “I've protested my whole life in NYC. Anti-war, immigration, climate, anti-police brutality marches... Never seen anything like I saw tonight. The@NYPDnews (https://twitter.com/NYPDnews) was completely different force tonight than during all of the marches in December and January. They came out swinging…”
http://www.thenation.com/article/205873/last-nights-solidarity-march-nypd-came-out-swinging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2015, 05:15 PM
cue the usual dumbasses that ignore the conflict of interest inherent in LEOBR granted extra right justifying skepticism in any case.
ahhh. BabyBoutons shows up first.
Cue the usual dumbass that assumes LEO's are lying even though they know everything they do will be under a microscope by the State and the Justice Department.
spurraider21
04-30-2015, 06:23 PM
where are the riots?
(http://abc13.com/news/man-wordlessly-brutally-stabs-officer/684860/)
OFFICIALS: MAN WORDLESSLY, BRUTALLY STABS OFFICER 14 TIMES AT SW HOUSTON WALMART (http://abc13.com/news/man-wordlessly-brutally-stabs-officer/684860/)
A 23-year-old man now stands accused of attempted capital murder of a police officer. Jeremiah Matthews allegedly stabbed an off-duty HCC officer worker an approved extra job at the Meyerland Walmart.
The attack happened early Tuesday morning, long before dawn. Officer April Pikes was said to be standing near a check out register when her attacker pulled out a knife and stabbed her 14 times in the chest and abdomen.
Pikes screamed, heads turned and then several men ran to her rescue.
Abe Baker was among them. "He was holding on to the knife in one hand and trying to grab her gun with the other. I got the knife away from him. It just happened so fast."
Baker said the attack came without warning. "He was smiling and whistling right before it happened. I don't know if he had a thing against police... but I had to do something."
Pikes was badly injured. She had been stabbed several times, causing blood loss. She underwent a six-hour surgery, and was said to be conscious Tuesday afternoon.
A spokesperson for Houston Community College said she joined the system's police department three years ago and has been assigned to the patrol division.
The question now is why the attack ever happened.
Matthews, according to his family and their spokesman, Deric Muhammad, said he has no criminal record. He moved to Houston from Louisiana four years ago.
Muhammad said Matthews had "a diagnosed mental condition in the past. Whether that played a part in this, I do not know."
Matthews' mother went to HPD headquarters to speak to investigators. She spoke to reporters before, addressing April Pikes and her family.
"As a mother it's painful, I wish that family a speedy recovery and my thoughts and prayers are going out to her and her entire family."
Matthews is being held in jail, without bond.
TheSanityAnnex
04-30-2015, 07:03 PM
It's in the article. It's why I spammed the whole thing and the local race baiters got asshurt about it.FIFYBy the way you never answered what title I changed. What the fuck were you even talking about?
HI-FI
04-30-2015, 07:09 PM
FIFYBy the way you never answered what title I changed. What the fuck were you even talking about?
Hey did Shaun King ever get to the bottom of that CointelPro plot against Michael Brown?
TheSanityAnnex
04-30-2015, 07:18 PM
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boutons_deux
04-30-2015, 07:31 PM
Freddie Gray’s Injury and the Police ‘Rough Ride’Freddie Gray’s Injury and the Police ‘Rough Ride’
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/05/01/us/01VANSweb/01VANSweb-articleLarge.jpg
In Baltimore, they call it a rough ride. In Philadelphia, they had another name for it that hints at the age of the practice — a nickel ride, a reference to old-time amusement park rides that cost five cents. Other cities called them joy rides.
The slang terms mask a dark tradition of police misconduct in which suspects, seated or lying face down and in handcuffs in the back of a police wagon, are jolted and battered by an intentionally rough and bumpy ride that can do as much damage as a police baton without an officer having to administer a blow.
The exact cause of the spinal injury that Freddie Gray suffered while in police custody in Baltimore before his death on April 19 has not been made clear. The police have said that he was not strapped into a seatbelt, a violation of department policy. That has led some to wonder whether he was deliberately left unbuckled, reminiscent of a practice that while little-known has left behind a brutal, costly legacy of severe injuries and multimillion-dollar settlements.
The tradition was regarded as a technique by aggressive officers to inflict punishment on those they arrested without ever being accused of physically assaulting them with their weapons or hands. For a suspect with hands cuffed behind him, seated on a thin bench in the back of a speeding police van, a sudden stop or a sharp turn or a bumpy road can do as much damage as a physical assault.
For example, in June 1980, Freddie Franklin was walking on 75th Street on the South Side of Chicago with a friend when, he claimed, a group of police officers wrongfully arrested him, placed him in handcuffs and forced him into the back of a police wagon. He landed face down on the floor of the vehicle. Two officers drove the van recklessly and erratically, in order to throw him around the floor of the van, he claimed in a federal lawsuit (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-03/news/8501270311_1_police-station-suit-arrested). According to court documents, by the time Mr. Franklin arrived at the police station, he lay bleeding, after biting off his lower lip.
In the Chicago case, Mr. Franklin was black, as were the two officers who were driving the van.
At least two other Baltimore men, Jeffrey Alston and Dondi Johnson, were paralyzed after police van rides in two separate cases that led to lawsuits. Mr. Alston, paralyzed from the neck down, settled for $6 million in 2004 (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2004-12-01/news/0412010083_1_alston-6-million-settlement-baltimore-police).
In Chicago, the American Civil Liberties Union represented Mr. Franklin in the federal lawsuit that he filed against six police officers, alleging civil rights violations and injuries that required him to undergo two reconstructive surgeries on his mouth. The city settled the case for $135,000.
And although the city’s lawyers denied the officers had given Mr. Franklin a rough ride, the case caused Chicago police officials to stop using wagons to transport suspects and use squad cars instead, said Edwin C. Yohnka, a spokesman for the A.C.L.U. of Illinois. The same year Mr. Franklin was injured, another handcuffed man suffered a broken neck after he fell off a bench in the back of a police van after the vehicle made a sharp turn. He won a $900,000 settlement.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/us/freddie-grays-injury-and-the-police-rough-ride.html?_r=0
From the video, it sure looks like his legs were already dead, being dragged like a rag doll. Probably kicked in the back, or an illegal choke hold to collapse the trachea and including violent twisting or jerking his neck.
In any case, his spinal cord severed, trachea collapsed while in cop custody
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 07:53 PM
where are the riots?
(http://abc13.com/news/man-wordlessly-brutally-stabs-officer/684860/)
OFFICIALS: MAN WORDLESSLY, BRUTALLY STABS OFFICER 14 TIMES AT SW HOUSTON WALMART (http://abc13.com/news/man-wordlessly-brutally-stabs-officer/684860/)
A 23-year-old man now stands accused of attempted capital murder of a police officer. Jeremiah Matthews allegedly stabbed an off-duty HCC officer worker an approved extra job at the Meyerland Walmart.
The attack happened early Tuesday morning, long before dawn. Officer April Pikes was said to be standing near a check out register when her attacker pulled out a knife and stabbed her 14 times in the chest and abdomen.
Pikes screamed, heads turned and then several men ran to her rescue.
Abe Baker was among them. "He was holding on to the knife in one hand and trying to grab her gun with the other. I got the knife away from him. It just happened so fast."
Baker said the attack came without warning. "He was smiling and whistling right before it happened. I don't know if he had a thing against police... but I had to do something."
Pikes was badly injured. She had been stabbed several times, causing blood loss. She underwent a six-hour surgery, and was said to be conscious Tuesday afternoon.
A spokesperson for Houston Community College said she joined the system's police department three years ago and has been assigned to the patrol division.
The question now is why the attack ever happened.
Matthews, according to his family and their spokesman, Deric Muhammad, said he has no criminal record. He moved to Houston from Louisiana four years ago.
Muhammad said Matthews had "a diagnosed mental condition in the past. Whether that played a part in this, I do not know."
Matthews' mother went to HPD headquarters to speak to investigators. She spoke to reporters before, addressing April Pikes and her family.
"As a mother it's painful, I wish that family a speedy recovery and my thoughts and prayers are going out to her and her entire family."
Matthews is being held in jail, without bond.
When he gets a cooldown period and a limited investigation into his crime you let me know.
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 07:55 PM
FIFYBy the way you never answered what title I changed. What the fuck were you even talking about?
what difference does it make?
TheSanityAnnex
04-30-2015, 08:13 PM
What does my change of a title have to do concerning this thread? Or concerning anything at all? You are off the deep end dude.
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 08:37 PM
What does my change of a title have to do concerning this thread? Or concerning anything at all? You are off the deep end dude.
what difference does it make?
Dance, monkey.
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 08:40 PM
Nice thread btw. You're narrative is strong and you look very cool.
TheSanityAnnex
04-30-2015, 08:45 PM
If we are now judging a thread's success I've clearly got you beat in that category. :lol 10 poll options 2 responsesSo what's up with you bringing up a title change under my username? What made it so significant you brought it up?
FuzzyLumpkins
04-30-2015, 11:44 PM
If we are now judging a thread's success I've clearly got you beat in that category. :lol 10 poll options 2 responsesSo what's up with you bringing up a title change under my username? What made it so significant you brought it up?
:lol what is sad is you measure your success based on your semen shield.
I just said that this thread was a nice thread.
Clipper Nation
05-01-2015, 12:12 AM
It's a very successful thread, tbh. Lots of narratives being knocked down, and the libtards are scrambling and deflecting.
boutons_deux
05-01-2015, 08:03 AM
"where are the riots?"
false equivalence from your ridiculously faulty "thinking"
who's going to riot over a criminal killing somebody?
riots occur when black people, innocent, unarmed, 1000s of them, are harassed, brutalized, injured, paralyzed, murdered by the fucking sadistic police, for decades.
boutons_deux
05-01-2015, 09:19 AM
Rumsfeld: Looting Is Transition To Freedom (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/30/1381387/-Rumsfeld-Looting-Is-Transition-To-Freedom)
[F]reedom's untidy. And free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things. They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. And that's what's going to happen here," Rumsfeld said.
Furthermore:
"While no one condones looting, on the other hand, one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression and people who have had members of their family killed by that regime, for them to be taking their feelings out on that regime," he said.
"And I don't think there's anyone in any of those pictures ... (who wouldn't) accept it as part of the price of getting from a repressed regime to freedom."
Donald Rumsfeld, in his own words, twelve years ago (April 11, 2003).
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/30/1381387/-Rumsfeld-Looting-Is-Transition-To-Freedom?detail=email
Rummy's invaders/destroyers didn't allow looting of the Iraqi Ministry of Oil, but let his troops and Iraqi loots cultural buildings, museums, etc.
boutons_deux
05-01-2015, 10:31 AM
announcement: Gray's death was homicide
Winehole23
05-01-2015, 10:49 AM
It's a very successful thread, tbh. Lots of narratives being knocked down, and the libtards are scrambling and deflecting.your turn
Six Baltimore police officers will face criminal charges, including second-degree murder and manslaughter, in the death of a black man who was arrested and suffered a fatal neck injury while riding in a moving police van, the city's chief prosecutor said on Friday. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/01/us-usa-police-baltimore-idUSKBN0NL1GO20150501
cantthinkofanything
05-01-2015, 10:52 AM
announcement: Gray's death was homicide
great. Just setting up for the big riot when all are found not guilty.
boutons_deux
05-01-2015, 11:08 AM
great. Just setting up for the big riot when all are found not guilty.
there might a conviction, depends on whether the prosecutor prosecutes the victim instead of the cops, as the compromised prosecutor did in Ferguson.
but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.
clambake
05-01-2015, 11:25 AM
what kind of world is this where 6 "earth cleansers" are charged with a crime?
the bible says we have domain over all the animals.
Spurminator
05-01-2015, 11:37 AM
Can't wait for the predictable racial / partisan divide during the trial. I'm sure everyone will have a completely open mind about this and prioritize justice and due process.
cantthinkofanything
05-01-2015, 11:52 AM
there might a conviction, depends on whether the prosecutor prosecutes the victim instead of the cops, as the compromised prosecutor did in Ferguson.
but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.
I don't think it matters how hard the prosecutor goes as the cops. If they can definitively match his injury to the inside of the van, I don't see how they'll get 12 jurors to convict. Maybe get a couple on negligence for not properly securing him or something. But nothing that anyone will go to jail over.
Prosecutor is going to have to make it look like he went all out though.
The Reckoning
05-01-2015, 01:49 PM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=890134284362996
Clipper Nation
05-01-2015, 01:50 PM
your turn
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/01/us-usa-police-baltimore-idUSKBN0NL1GO20150501
The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray (http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/cops-to-be-charged-in-freddie-gray-homicide/) has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.
Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.
http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimore-prosecutor-has-ties-to-gray-family-lawyer-comes-from-police-family/
Chomag
05-01-2015, 02:06 PM
If they are just trying to calm the populous by charging the officers just wait for the shit storm they have now created if the cops are not found guilty and convicted. They better hope that there is enough evidence to support a conviction or else scratch another major city off our list.
When it all clears I do see that they might possibly be charged with negligence but not for murder.
Clipper Nation
05-01-2015, 02:22 PM
but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.
"Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble"
Nice try, but I'm pretty sure that riots aren't "inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict."
Spurminator
05-01-2015, 02:25 PM
The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray (http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/cops-to-be-charged-in-freddie-gray-homicide/) has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.
Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.
http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimore-prosecutor-has-ties-to-gray-family-lawyer-comes-from-police-family/
So according to the Murdock Post, Mosby has "close ties" with Murphy because he contributed to her campaign and because a political opponent of hers says she does.
Pretty bulletproof story, if you ask me.
boutons_deux
05-01-2015, 02:35 PM
"Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble"
Nice try, but I'm pretty sure that riots aren't "inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict."
The Great Boutons don't try, he bitch slaps. the right to peaceable assembly is severely circumscribed by city/police permits to suppress, criminalize dissent. The cops have been seen very often to provoke peaceable crowds, eg OWS, with tasers, "walk by" eye spray, tear gas bombs. In Baltimore, the police corralled kids trying to get on buses and to get home. Kids got pissed, but were provoked.
Clipper Nation
05-01-2015, 02:57 PM
the right to peaceable assembly is severely circumscribed by city/police permits to suppress, criminalize dissent.
The permit system was introduced as a result of violent nativist riots in San Francisco, New Orleans, Philadelphia and New York in the late 1800s. "Dissent" is not targeting Chinese immigrants (San Francisco), African-Americans (New Orleans and New York), Irish immigrants and Roman Catholics (Philadelphia) because of their race/ethnicity/religion, and nativist pogroms certainly don't qualify as the type of "peaceable" assembly that the First Amendment protects. Ironically, the Baltimore riots - in which gangs specifically targeted Asian- and Arab-owned businesses - would fit in perfectly with those 1800s riots.
Learn your history before you try to "bitch-slap" someone who's more intelligent than you, shill.
TheSanityAnnex
05-01-2015, 04:39 PM
Can't wait for the predictable racial / partisan divide during the trial. I'm sure everyone will have a completely open mind about this and prioritize justice and due process.
Something was fucky in the van ride, but charging all six was a bad move.
CosmicCowboy
05-01-2015, 04:56 PM
If they are just trying to calm the populous by charging the officers just wait for the shit storm they have now created if the cops are not found guilty and convicted. They better hope that there is enough evidence to support a conviction or else scratch another major city off our list.
When it all clears I do see that they might possibly be charged with negligence but not for murder.
Unless they can get one of the officers to flip and say "X threw him head first into the box and slammed his head into the bolt/wall" they are gonna have a hard time making second degree murder. The are all vulnerable to both civil and criminal charges for failing to get medical aid when the prisoner specifically asked for it and obviously needed it.
ChumpDumper
05-01-2015, 07:01 PM
Spurs Talk Legal Eagles soar into action.
TheSanityAnnex
05-01-2015, 07:16 PM
Spurs Talk Legal Eagles soar into action.
Nice contribution to the thread. What are thoughts on the situation?
clambake
05-01-2015, 07:21 PM
3 black cops, 3 white cops.
this is delicious
Trill Clinton
05-01-2015, 07:29 PM
3 black cops, 3 white cops.
this is delicious
http://i62.tinypic.com/11brxb9.gif
TheSanityAnnex
05-01-2015, 07:41 PM
Pics of officers involved
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD9WcFfWMAA7GSr.jpg
ChumpDumper
05-01-2015, 07:56 PM
Nice contribution to the thread. What are thoughts on the situation?I think I haven't seen the evidence. Do you guys have a link to it?
TheSanityAnnex
05-01-2015, 08:15 PM
I think I haven't seen the evidence. Do you guys have a link to it?
Of course. Shaun King has already fully investigated and released the info on the daily kos.
ChumpDumper
05-01-2015, 08:16 PM
Of course. Shaun King has already fully investigated and released the info on the daily kos.Nice contribution to the thread.
TheSanityAnnex
05-01-2015, 08:28 PM
Nice contribution to the thread.
:lol
I assume you'll just fart around here and question others opinions without giving your own until the evidence is presented?
ChumpDumper
05-01-2015, 08:30 PM
:lol
I assume you'll just fart around here and question others opinions without giving your own until the evidence is presented?It was a serious question tbh. I only heard a little news today.
cd021
05-01-2015, 10:42 PM
Apparently the cops didn't even have cause to arrest Grey. There is evidence that he received the injuries while in the van and his head injury matches a bolt on the van wall. Also he wasn't strapped down, so it appears that he was given a "rough ride" which cause his spine to sever.
unleashbaynes
05-02-2015, 12:50 AM
good to see someone at least trying to hold shitty cops accountable
Infinite_limit
05-02-2015, 01:14 AM
Apparently the cops didn't even have cause to arrest Grey. There is evidence that he received the injuries while in the van and his head injury matches a bolt on the van wall. Also he wasn't strapped down, so it appears that he was given a "rough ride" which cause his spine to sever.
He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).
I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 02:31 AM
He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).
I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.lol
cd021
05-02-2015, 03:39 AM
He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).
I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.
Thats not probable cause. The prosecutor said that they had no [legal] reason to arrest him in the first place.
Winehole23
05-02-2015, 09:05 AM
He was loitering around a heavy drug stop. And he had 13 felonies (mostly drugs).
I'd say the Cops definitely did their job.loitering and a rap sheet isn't probable cause for an arrest, still less for a rough ride. nice try.
Winehole23
05-02-2015, 09:07 AM
The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray (http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/cops-to-be-charged-in-freddie-gray-homicide/) has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.
Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.
http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimore-prosecutor-has-ties-to-gray-family-lawyer-comes-from-police-family/lawyers know other lawyers. that's good spin. :tu
spursncowboys
05-02-2015, 09:38 AM
lawyers know other lawyers. that's good spin. :tu
No spin for that logic
I think these cops did something criminal
But still think the ag should recuse herself because that is definitely a conflict of interest.
Trill Clinton
05-02-2015, 09:51 AM
lol
boutons_deux
05-02-2015, 09:51 AM
Thats not probable cause. The prosecutor said that they had no [legal] reason to arrest him in the first place.
carrying a knife, even a switchblade, there is also legal. running from cops isn't a crime, but it insults their bullying, racist egos, so they make the runner pay dearly.
boutons_deux
05-02-2015, 10:17 AM
Baltimore police officer Caesar Goodson Jr., 45, allegedly murdered (http://www.vox.com/2015/5/1/8530201/freddie-gray-criminal-charges) Freddie Gray (http://www.vox.com/cards/freddie-gray-baltimore-riots-police-violence/baltimore-protests-freddie-gray).
Allen Bullock, 18, smashed a Baltimore police car's windows and windshield with a traffic cone.
Yet the police officer reportedly ended up with a much lower bail than Bullock — a difference that Baltimore protesters say is another sign of a criminal justice system that's skewed in favor of police officers.
Bullock turned himself in after the April 25 Baltimore riots, and, according to the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/baltimore-rioters-parents-500000-bail-allen-bullock), his bail was set at $500,000 — a sum his family says they can't afford. His family now says they regret convincing him to turn himself in.
RelatedFreddie Gray shouldn't have been arrested, and he shouldn't have died (http://www.vox.com/2015/5/1/8530705/freddie-gray-protesters-win)
Goodson was arrested on Friday after Baltimore's state attorney announced five criminal charges (http://www.vox.com/2015/5/1/8530201/freddie-gray-criminal-charges) against him: second-degree depraved-heart murder (http://www.vox.com/2015/5/1/8529761/freddie-gray-depraved-murder), involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence), manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence), and misconduct in office. His bail was set at $350,000, ?according to the Baltimore Sun's Justin Fenton (https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/594249925535338497).
http://www.vox.com/2015/5/2/8534943/baltimore-bail-freddie-gray
MultiTroll
05-02-2015, 10:34 AM
Can't wait to hear the police defense liarwyers account.
An attorney for the union, the Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police, said the officers did nothing wrong.
"No officer injured Mr. Gray, caused harm to Mr. Gray, and they are truly saddened by his death," Michael Davey told reporters.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:16 PM
No spin for that logic
I think these cops did something criminal
But still think the ag should recuse herself because that is definitely a conflict of interest.Do you really think she is going to personally represent the state in the courtroom trials?
I don't.
CosmicCowboy
05-02-2015, 12:20 PM
I doubt the murder charges make it past a grand jury. This appears to be political grandstanding. The "three black women will get justice for Freddie" comment was appalling.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:33 PM
I doubt the murder charges make it past a grand jury.Do you have a link to the evidence?
CosmicCowboy
05-02-2015, 12:38 PM
Do you have a link to the evidence?
No I don't, Chump, but the murder charge was on the driver. Have fun trying to prove he drove recklessly with the intent to injure the passenger if all of the other officers and the other prisoner say he didn't.
I'm not saying they are innocent. Failing to get him immediate medical help when it was obvious he asked for it and needed it is criminal and civil negligence at a minimum.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:40 PM
No I don't, Chump, but the murder charge was on the driver. Have fun trying to prove he drove recklessly with the intent to injure the passenger if all of the other officers and the other prisoner say he didn't.From what I've heard, I'm not sure intent is necessary here.
CosmicCowboy
05-02-2015, 12:44 PM
Well, follow that logic to it's conclusion. Is the sober driver of a car guilty of murder if a passenger dies in a car accident?
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:47 PM
I am also unsure a "rough ride" is being cited in the charges.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Well, follow that logic to it's conclusion. Is the sober driver of a car guilty of murder if a passenger dies in a car accident?Depends on what type of murder we're talking about here.
Along with involuntary manslaughter, Officer Goodson, 45, was charged with “second-degree depraved heart murder,” which means indifference to human life.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us/freddie-gray-autopsy-report-given-to-baltimore-prosecutors.html?_r=0
With that, it might not even matter how Gray got injured. Could be as simple as not giving a shit once they knew he was injured.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 12:57 PM
No I don't, Chump, but the murder charge was on the driver. Have fun trying to prove he drove recklessly with the intent to injure the passenger if all of the other officers and the other prisoner say he didn't.The other prisoner was picked up after Gray was injured. I don't think it would make sense to continue driving rough if they knew Gray was injured.
Infinite_limit
05-02-2015, 01:15 PM
carrying a knife, even a switchblade, there is also legal. running from cops isn't a crime, but it insults their bullying, racist egos, so they make the runner pay dearly.
Don't run
Don't die
Blacks catching up in 2015
Winehole23
05-02-2015, 01:31 PM
Don't run
Don't die
Blacks catching up in 2015You need to catch up, IF. Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that mere flight does not warrant deadly force.
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 01:35 PM
You need to catch up, IF. Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that mere flight does not warrant deadly force.:cry It does in Poland! :cry
Fabbs
05-02-2015, 01:44 PM
I am also unsure a "rough ride" is being cited in the charges.
Would you be considered a "rough ride" expert?
Infinite_limit
05-02-2015, 01:45 PM
You need to catch up, IF. Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that mere flight does not warrant deadly force.
How stupid of me for not running when I've been questioned/arrested.
Why stop? Everyone should run
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 01:55 PM
How stupid of me for not running when I've been questioned/arrested.
Why stop? Everyone should runHe wasn't being questioned or arrested.
Infinite_limit
05-02-2015, 02:05 PM
He wasn't being questioned or arrested.
He was about to be questioned
One less ignorant felon on the streets. Good for USA
ChumpDumper
05-02-2015, 02:25 PM
He was about to be questioned There is no indication he was.
cd021
05-02-2015, 06:48 PM
Can't wait to hear the police defense liarwyers account.
An attorney for the union, the Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police, said the officers did nothing wrong.
"No officer injured Mr. Gray, caused harm to Mr. Gray, and they are truly saddened by his death," Michael Davey told reporters.
:lmao They are only truly saddened because 6 cops got charged. They didn't give a shit when they denied a man medical attention.
boutons_deux
05-03-2015, 08:37 AM
Top cop in Freddie Gray case had guns confiscated, was hospitalized over mental health concerns 3 years ago
The highest ranking Baltimore police officer, of the six facing manslaughter charges in the death of Freddie Gray, had multiple guns confiscated and was temporarily removed from duty 3 years ago over mental health concerns, reports The Baltimore Sun (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-riots/bs-md-brian-rice-20150501-story.html).
Lt. Brian Rice, 41, is currently out on bail while facing charges of involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, and misconduct in office, related to the death of Gray.
Rice was the highest ranking officer involved in the case, and the first one to make contact with Gray in the confrontation that led to suspect’s death.
According to a report filed in 2012 by the Carroll County sheriff’s office, deputies responded to Rice’s home after he told his estranged girlfriend that “he could not continue to go on like this.”
In the report, deputies said that Rice “appeared normal and soft-spoken,” when they spoke with him however they believed his comments were ” intended to invoke sympathy and attention.” Deputies said they seized his service weapon and other guns as a precautionary measure and escorted Rice to Carroll Hospital Center for evaluation.
The hospital report on Rice was redacted because it contains medical information about officer that is protected by federal privacy law.
In 2013 Rice was ordered by a judge to stay away from his ex-girlfriend’s husband after reportedly threatening him.
When asked about the threats that led to a judicial intervention, police union president Gene Ryan said he knew Rice professionally from when he served with him in the Baltimore Police Department.
“I would be very surprised if he did something like that,” Ryan said.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/top-cop-in-freddie-gray-case-had-guns-confiscated-was-hospitalized-over-mental-health-concerns-3-year-ago/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Are psychopaths attracted to policing, or does policing produce psychopaths?
DPG21920
05-04-2015, 10:09 AM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-baltimore-freddie-gray-20150427-htmlstory.html
Do people actually believe the stuff in this link? So known gang members that seem to have no problem killing each other and likely committing crimes are now coming together for justice for someone they would have had no problem assaulting or killing if he wore a different color shirt? Totally seems legit.
I'm not talking about the overarching story with the city, just this specific narrative. It's strange.
Nbadan
05-04-2015, 11:29 PM
Cute or tragic?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEClAhdWAAAOqUD.jpg
As seen in Baltimore...
ChumpDumper
05-04-2015, 11:31 PM
Cute or tragic?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEClAhdWAAAOqUD.jpg
As seen in Baltimore...Should probably point the gun away.
Nbadan
05-04-2015, 11:31 PM
This little girl is blowing kisses at the National Guard.
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/Jo-Anns-stuff/3b285bdc-54ee-4baf-9cd0-72506703dd92_zpsic4z8xsx.jpg
Nbadan
05-05-2015, 12:21 AM
Tom Tomorrow nails it...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/hissyspit/hissyspitiphone/387BBD9D-8A8A-491D-A0D9-FEF1634460E2_zpspjujaw04.png
Nbadan
05-05-2015, 01:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=zkehS8HPRHA
boutons_deux
05-05-2015, 09:41 AM
Asst Wayne Cty prosecutor re: Baltimore protesters: "Shoot em. Period. End of discussion." (http://dailykos.com/story/2015/05/01/1381759/-Assistant-Wayne-County-prosecutor-about-Baltimore-protesters-Shoot-em-Period-End-of-discussion)
So I am watching the news in Baltimore and see large swarms of people throwing bricks, etc at police who are fleeing from their assaults ... 15 in the hospital already.
Solution.
Simple.
Shoot em.
Period.
End of discussion.
I don’t care what causes the protestors to turn violent...what the “they did it because” reason is...no way is this acceptable. Flipping disgusting.
http://dailykos.com/story/2015/05/01/1381759/-Assistant-Wayne-County-prosecutor-about-Baltimore-protesters-Shoot-em-Period-End-of-discussion?detail=email
Winehole23
05-05-2015, 10:27 AM
curfew ends, National Guard to withdraw:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/03/baltimore-city-curfew-ends/
Clipper Nation
05-05-2015, 12:08 PM
Tom Tomorrow nails it...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/hissyspit/hissyspitiphone/387BBD9D-8A8A-491D-A0D9-FEF1634460E2_zpspjujaw04.png
:cry "Anything that doesn't follow the liberal criminal-apologist, anti-cop narrative isn't helpful!" :cry
SnakeBoy
05-05-2015, 01:19 PM
Should probably point the gun away.
Why? Are you concerned he might poke her in the eye with it?
CosmicCowboy
05-05-2015, 03:03 PM
Should probably point the gun away.
:lol
Like they would let them have real bullets.
CosmicCowboy
05-05-2015, 03:04 PM
This little girl is blowing kisses at the National Guard.
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/Jo-Anns-stuff/3b285bdc-54ee-4baf-9cd0-72506703dd92_zpsic4z8xsx.jpg
Dang, them little bitches start hookin young up there.
Winehole23
05-05-2015, 08:19 PM
poor taste.
baseline bum
05-05-2015, 08:33 PM
The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray (http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/cops-to-be-charged-in-freddie-gray-homicide/) has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.
Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.
http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimore-prosecutor-has-ties-to-gray-family-lawyer-comes-from-police-family/
Holy fuck, Billy Murphy got Clay Davis off scot free. If Gray's family has him arguing their case it's GG police.
baseline bum
05-05-2015, 08:36 PM
Speaking of Billy Murphy, great video
s4nQ_mFJV4I
Winehole23
05-07-2015, 08:59 AM
more thuggery here:
http://www.dose.com/lists/20103/23-Photos-From-The-Baltimore-Protests-That-You-Won-t-See-In-Mainstream-Media
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2015, 09:02 AM
Dang, them little bitches start hookin young up there.
You're a fucking idiot. That's low even by Spurstalk standards.
unleashbaynes
05-07-2015, 09:59 AM
for real man that was just an awkward comment
TheSanityAnnex
05-07-2015, 10:55 AM
more thuggery here:
http://www.dose.com/lists/20103/23-Photos-From-The-Baltimore-Protests-That-You-Won-t-See-In-Mainstream-Media
:lol celebrating a group of murdering criminals getting together for a picture hoping the police presence leaves so they can get back to selling drugs and committing crimes
2.The bloods and crips did unite, but NOT to "take down the police", as has been erroneously reported. They united to protest and find justice for Freddie Gray.
http://static1.lxdcdn.net/images/2d1e19dcdde98f0bdeadd324e565960c.jpeg
:lol the ONLY picture they could find of a "whole" family
9.Whole families came out to show their desire for justice
http://static4.lxdcdn.net/images/152b101061ba298c06705853cc63e390.jpeg
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2015, 10:57 AM
this calls for celebration indeed
0AzF_37c_jY
CosmicCowboy
05-07-2015, 11:03 AM
jeez. Buy a sense of humor, dude.
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2015, 11:12 AM
jeez. Buy a sense of humor, dude.
So...your sense of humor tells you that calling a 3 year old a "bitch" and a hooker is funny?
I can pretty much guarantee you that not one person reading that thought, "lol". Not even the most racist motherfucker on the board.
Adam Lambert
05-07-2015, 11:54 AM
I can pretty much guarantee you that not one person reading that thought, "lol".
and if anyone knows a thing or two or 13 thousand about posts like this, it's this guy
SnakeBoy
05-07-2015, 12:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=zkehS8HPRHA
:lol while sporting a fuck the police t-shirt
cantthinkofanything
05-07-2015, 12:51 PM
and if anyone knows a thing or two or 13 thousand about posts like this, it's this guy
13 thousand posts and I bet you can't find one that sexualizes a toddler.
Winehole23
05-08-2015, 11:46 AM
envy of the world:
Opportunity in America also varies widely based on where one lives. Baltimore, for instance, is the toughest place in the country for poor children (http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/04/news/economy/poor-children/index.html?iid=EL) to escape poverty, according to a new Equality of Opportunity study (http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/) released this week by Harvard economists.http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/07/news/economy/issa-poor/index.html
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2015, 03:58 PM
13 thousand posts and I bet you can't find one that sexualizes a toddler.
Nor one that demonstrates any intelligence either. Or a sense of humor.
cantthinkofanything
05-08-2015, 04:27 PM
Nor one that demonstrates any intelligence either. Or a sense of humor.
So you think your joke about calling a toddler a bitch and hooker was funny?
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2015, 04:48 PM
So you think your joke about calling a toddler a bitch and hooker was funny?
It was meant as a joke. If it offended an emo pussy like you, so be it.
cantthinkofanything
05-08-2015, 05:08 PM
It was meant as a joke. If it offended an emo pussy like you, so be it.
So not laughing at calling a toddler a bitch and hooker = emo pussy?
Please tell me where I learn how to be an edgy badass like yourself.
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2015, 05:09 PM
So not laughing at calling a toddler a bitch and hooker = emo pussy?
Please tell me where I learn how to be an edgy badass like yourself.
No, calling me a pedophile for a questionable joke makes you a hysterical emo pussy.
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2015, 05:12 PM
Is this one better?
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/Jo-Anns-stuff/3b285bdc-54ee-4baf-9cd0-72506703dd92_zpsic4z8xsx.jpg
"Hey, you guys seen Avante? He promised me some candy."
cantthinkofanything
05-08-2015, 05:33 PM
Is this one better?
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/Jo-Anns-stuff/3b285bdc-54ee-4baf-9cd0-72506703dd92_zpsic4z8xsx.jpg
"Hey, you guys seen Avante? He promised me some candy."
Lolz. Yeah...you got it now.
Trill Clinton
05-21-2015, 04:12 PM
601493783075749888
god bless marilyn mosby!!!
CosmicCowboy
05-21-2015, 04:16 PM
Gonna be some kickass riots when Ms. Mosby can't get convictions.
Trill Clinton
05-21-2015, 04:18 PM
Gonna be some kickass riots when Ms. Mosby can't get convictions.
you would like that, wouldn't you? riot porn and pedophilia is how you get ya jollies nowadays.
Trill Clinton
05-21-2015, 04:21 PM
mosby upgraded charges on two of the officers.
looks like one of the officers broke the blue shield and snitched http://i57.tinypic.com/21b3jw6.png
TheSanityAnnex
05-29-2015, 05:17 PM
I thought they wanted less policing?
http://www.mail.com/news/us/3580888-baltimore-bloodier-arrests-drop-post-freddie-gray.html#.23140-stage-hero1-2 (http://www.mail.com/news/us/3580888-baltimore-bloodier-arrests-drop-post-freddie-gray.html#.23140-stage-hero1-2)
The most recent killings claimed the lives of Jennifer Jeffrey and her 7-year-old son, Kester Anthony Browne. They were identified by Jeffrey's sister, Danielle Wilder. Jeffrey and her son were found dead early Thursday, each from gunshot wounds to the head.
As family members cried and held each other on the quiet, leafy block in Southwest Baltimore where they lived, Wilder said she felt as if "my heart has been ripped out." Wilder said a neighbor called their other sister early Thursday, concerned that she hadn't heard any noise coming from Jeffrey's house: no footsteps, Wilder said, no voices, and no gunshots. But when her brother let himself into the house to check on the mother and son, he discovered their bodies.
"She was in the living room," Wilder said. "The baby was upstairs, in the bed." Wilder said police told her there were no signs of forced entry, and that whoever killed Jeffrey and Browne were let into the house sometime yesterday. Wilder said Jeffrey also lived with her niece and grand-niece. Wilder said she believed that whoever killed Jeffrey wanted to catch her alone, and that the boy was collateral damage.
Thursday's deaths continue a grisly and dramatic uptick in homicides across Baltimore that has so far claimed the lives of 38 people. Meanwhile, arrests have plunged: Police are booking fewer than half the number of people they pulled off the streets last year.
Arrests were already declining before Freddie Gray died on April 19 of injuries he suffered in police custody, but they dropped sharply thereafter, as his death unleashed protests, riots, the criminal indictment of six officers and a full-on civil rights investigation by the U.S. Justice Department that has officers working under close scrutiny.
"I'm afraid to go outside," said Antoinette Perrine, whose brother was shot down three weeks ago on a basketball court near her home in the Harlem Park neighborhood of West Baltimore. Ever since, she has barricaded her door and added metal slabs inside her windows to deflect gunfire.
"It's so bad, people are afraid to let their kids outside," Perrine said. "People wake up with shots through their windows. Police used to sit on every corner, on the top of the block. These days? They're nowhere."
West Baltimore residents worry they've been abandoned by the officers they once accused of harassing them, leaving some neighborhoods like the Wild West without a lawman around. "Before it was over-policing. Now there's no police," said Donnail "Dreads" Lee, 34, who lives in the Gilmor Homes, the public housing complex where Gray, 25, was chased down. "People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren't pulling them up like they used to."
Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said his officers "are not holding back," despite encountering dangerous hostility in the Western District. "Our officers tell me that when officers pull up, they have 30 to 50 people surrounding them at any time," Batts said.
Batts provided more details at a City Council meeting Wednesday night, saying officers now fear getting arrested for making mistakes. "What is happening, there is a lot of levels of confusion in the police organization. There are people who have pain, there are people who are hurt, there are people who are frustrated, there are people who are angry," Batts said. "There are people, and they've said this to me, 'If I get out of my car and make a stop for a reasonable suspicion that leads to probable cause but I make a mistake on it, will I be arrested?' They pull up to a scene and another officer has done something that they don't know, it may be illegal, will they be arrested for it? Those are things they are asking."
The Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 3 on Thursday posted a statement from President Gene Ryan on social media saying that the police are "under siege." "The criminals are taking advantage of the situation in Baltimore since the unrest," Ryan wrote. "(Police) are more afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs properly than they are of getting shot on duty."
FuzzyLumpkins
05-29-2015, 06:39 PM
Poor police with their extra rights making them very difficult to investigate properly. So their ploy is to arrest no one and pretend that you cannot do your job without the tactics being complained about.
Police unions are a blight.
boutons_deux
06-24-2015, 05:08 AM
Medical Examiner Rules Freddie Gray's Death a Homicide by Fatal Blow to the Neck
A leaked autopsy report shows that Freddie Gray suffered a fatal "high-energy" blow to the neck, the Baltimore Sun reported (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-autopsy-20150623-story.html#page=2) late Tuesday.
From the Sun:
The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission."
Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, making him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van." The medical examiner compared Gray's injury to those seen in shallow-water diving incidents.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/06/medical-examiner-freddie-gray-homicide
hmm, no mention that he could have been booted in the neck while on the ground BEFORE he and his already unuseable, lifeless legs were dragged to the wagon? no severe bruising at the point of impact on the spine?
WHITEWASH!
Trill Clinton
06-24-2015, 08:45 PM
613772713811800065
http://i60.tinypic.com/vdzmmd.png
Trill Clinton
06-25-2015, 02:04 PM
613814927619436544
http://i62.tinypic.com/2i8vpfk.jpg
boutons_deux
06-26-2015, 09:41 AM
Police created hoax to smear protesters of Freddie Gray's killing (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396665/-Police-created-hoax-to-smear-protesters-of-Freddie-Gray-s-killing)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396665/-Police-created-hoax-to-smear-protesters-of-Freddie-Gray-s-killing?detail=email
Clipper Nation
08-09-2015, 09:36 PM
The police detectives who investigated the death of Freddie Gray (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/) were told that he had a history of participating in "crash-for-cash" schemes — injuring himself in law enforcement settings to collect settlements — but were advised by a state prosecutor not to pursue the information, according to defense attorneys for the six officers charged in Gray's arrest and death.
The defense attorneys said in a court motion Thursday that Assistant State's Attorney Janice Bledsoe told police investigators working the case in its early stages not to "do the defense attorneys' jobs for them" by pursuing information they had about such schemes and evidence that Gray "intentionally injured himself at the Baltimore City Detention Center."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-gray-recusal-filing-20150806-story.html
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