NBA: 19th year and still the best player on his team. [Archive]

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 09:41 PM

Strange Love

05-02-2015, 09:47 PM

Arcadian

05-02-2015, 09:52 PM

Leonard should have done more.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 09:56 PM

Leonard its still developing tbh..

He's yet not controlled his jitters in moments like these.

Duncan has been let down by more than him though. Where is Manu? Parker? Fuck me, they have regressed so badly.

Leonard will be in the Spurfan doghouse right now. And it's deserved. I don't care how young he is, you don't get outplayed by Matt fuckin' Barnes twice in row in closeout games. Eternally grateful to Leonard for last year's run, but it's a new season now and he failed to deliver.

DMC

05-02-2015, 09:58 PM

I told all of you Leonard isn't what you think he is. He's a great defender, made leaps and bounds on offense as well, but mentally he's porridge.

LkrFan

05-02-2015, 09:59 PM

UBUNTU! :lmao

DAF86

05-02-2015, 10:01 PM

Hey look, another short term memory emo thread by midnightpulp.

TDMVPDPOY

05-02-2015, 10:02 PM

to say whether kawhi couldve done more in this series, his done more with duncan in this series, arent both these players avg 20ppg for this series?

cant do shit when enrique is going 4 possessions bricking shit

even if kawhi scores 10 straight points, pop would sub him to cool the hot hand, or some jealous kent wont pass it to him

look at what happen to green this game, dude was scoring well, then enrique had to come in to remind everyone its his team

Kool Bob Love

05-02-2015, 10:05 PM

Spurs are gonna max out kawhi. If you think the RJ era was bad, think again.:(

Caltex2

05-02-2015, 10:05 PM

Incredible what the 4th GOAT has accomplished with so little help. Faggot Kiwi missed all his 4th quarter daggers, per par.

And as I type this, hits two clutch FTs where Kiwi, Parker, Manu, etc would've split.

Sad that we could never pair Duncan with a true 2nd option superstar. Easily would've had 7 titles.

D-Rob was a legit second option on the first title team. That said, Duncan has turned San Antonio from a place no one would consider going as a free agent to one of the premiere destinations in the sport.

resistanze

05-02-2015, 10:07 PM

TD favorite player of all time. Rocked his Jersey with pride tonight.

Time for the fight.

Strange Love

05-02-2015, 10:08 PM

Spurs are gonna max out kawhi. If you think the RJ era was bad, think again.:(

And he should.

He's not peaked yet. Guy has way more room to grow.

Someone should teach him fearlesness though. He tends to shrivel in tight spots.

Also, Spurs will have to get some new blood in there. Manu, Parker are done. Maybe even Duncan.

If they come back with the same roster next year, its a wrap.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:09 PM

Hey look, another short term memory emo thread by midnightpulp.

Manu was never a superstar player. He had some nice playoff runs ('05 and last season) but has sank us probably more than he's won for us. And Parker? :lmao :lmao :lmao

"Big 3." :lol

More like Big 1.5. The .5 being Manu when he's not choking and delivers.

Kool Bob Love

05-02-2015, 10:09 PM

And he should.

He's not peaked yet. Guy has way more room to grow.

Someone should teach him fearlesness though. He tends to shrivel in tight spots.

Also, Spurs will have to get some new blood in there. Manu, Parker are done. Maybe even Duncan.

If they come back with the same roster next year, its a wrap.

He peak in 2014. Its all down hill for that injury prone clown. Fuck him. I'll NEVER buy a Leonard Jersey. NEVER!

Kool Bob Love

05-02-2015, 10:10 PM

lefty

05-02-2015, 10:10 PM

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo (https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo) 2 hrs2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/594674291863588864) Tim Duncan joins Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the only players to score in double figures in a Game 7 at age 39 or older (via @eliassports (https://twitter.com/EliasSports))

DAF86

05-02-2015, 10:15 PM

Manu was never a superstar player. He had some nice playoff runs ('05 and last season) but has sank us probably more than he's won for us. And Parker? :lmao :lmao :lmao

"Big 3." :lol

More like Big 1.5. The .5 being Manu when he's not choking and delivers.

Don't know if Manu and Parker are/were/could have been superstars, don't know if Leonard will ever get to be a superstar. All I know is that all of these guys made crucial contributions to our multiple championships and they don't deserve to be disrespected on these pussy-emo threads.

Strange Love

05-02-2015, 10:20 PM

He peak in 2014. Its all down hill for that injury prone clown. Fuck him. I'll NEVER buy a Leonard Jersey. NEVER!

You're being too harsh. He's like 23 years old.

Retooling around him is the only way. Trust me.

Duncan and Manu will retire most than likely so he's your only hope at even contending for a playoff spot. Tony is not your man for that.

Spurs are in an ugly situation right now.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:24 PM

Don't know if Manu and Parker are/were/could have been superstars, don't know if Leonard will ever get to be a superstar. All I know is that all of these guys made crucial contributions to our multiple championships and they don't deserve these to be disrespected on this pussy-emo threads.

Sounds like you're the one emo-ing. I'm just stating facts. Duncan's cohorts have been wildly inconsistent through the "Big 3" era. For every contribution (and I appreciate those) there's been an equal or more amount of chokes and underwhelming performances. Duncan has had his crimes as well (he was poor offensively in '05 against Detroit), but 8 times out of 10, he'll deliver a superstar performance in a key playoff game or series. And here we have the DPOY and reigning Finals MVP, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes while Duncan is putting up 27 and 11 against players young enough to be his sons.

Thread

05-02-2015, 10:25 PM

Sounds like you're the one emo-ing. I'm just stating facts. Duncan's cohorts have been wildly inconsistent through the "Big 3" era. For every contribution (and I appreciate those) there's been an equal or more amount of chokes and underwhelming performances. Duncan has had his crimes as well (he was poor offensively in '05 against Detroit), but 8 times out of 10, he'll deliver a superstar performance in a key playoff game or series. And here we have the DPOY and reigning Finals MVP, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes while Duncan is putting up 27 and 11 against players young enough to be his sons.

Duncan is responsible for '13, Midst. He let Amy & Bats get the better of him.

DAF86

05-02-2015, 10:27 PM

Sounds like you're the one emo-ing. I'm just stating facts. Duncan's cohorts have been wildly inconsistent through the "Big 3" era. For every contribution (and I appreciate those) there's been an equal or more amount of chokes and underwhelming performances. Duncan has had his crimes as well (he was poor offensively in '05 against Detroit), but 8 times out of 10, he'll deliver a superstar performance in a key playoff game or series. And here we have the DPOY and reigning Finals MVP, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes while Duncan is putting up 27 and 11 against players young enough to be his sons.

No, you are the bipolar emo here. Next season when we get far again and Leonard kills it you will be making thread about him and calling him a top 10 player in the league.

Strange Love

05-02-2015, 10:29 PM

Sounds like you're the one emo-ing. I'm just stating facts. Duncan's cohorts have been wildly inconsistent through the "Big 3" era. For every contribution (and I appreciate those) there's been an equal or more amount of chokes and underwhelming performances. Duncan has had his crimes as well (he was poor offensively in '05 against Detroit), but 8 times out of 10, he'll deliver a superstar performance in a key playoff game or series. And here we have the DPOY and reigning Finals MVP, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes while Duncan is putting up 27 and 11 against players young enough to be his sons.

Manu fans just get extra touchy when you say anything negative about him.

I'm a big Manu fan but his good days have been behind him since...oh 2005ish.

I seriously do not want to see him back as a Spurs next year. He's more of a hindrance at this stage in his career.

Good run, Manu. But you gotta go.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:30 PM

Duncan is responsible for '13, Midst. He let Amy & Bats get the better of him.

Nope. Duncan put up 25 and 14 on the road in that game 7. Parker was 3-13 and Danny Green was 1-12.

Have your fun, though. You love reducing everything down to singular moments.

Arnold Toht

05-02-2015, 10:30 PM

Duncan let his champions down. Year after year.

Kobe didnt' let the Lakers down in '01, '02, nor in '10.

TDMVPDPOY

05-02-2015, 10:30 PM

Spurs are gonna max out kawhi. If you think the RJ era was bad, think again.:(

lol deflecting faggot with the rj era, u meant enrique era leading to jackshit

enrique still doing enrique things, u win it my way or u wining nothing, clearly showed tonight again with his hero ball antics when green was on fire...

HemisfairArena

05-02-2015, 10:32 PM

Say goodbye,,,Duncan is gone,,,,

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:34 PM

No, you are the bipolar emo here. Next season when we get far again and Leonard kills it you will be making thread about him and calling him a top 10 player in the league.

How is calling Kawhi a top 10 player in the league being "bipolar?" He was playing like a top 10 player in the league and deserved that status. After game 6 and tonight, he deserves to be called out. A player of his caliber, one that outplayed Lebron James on the biggest stage, shouldn't be bending over for Matt Barnes.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:34 PM

Duncan let his champions down. Year after year.

Kobe didnt' let the Lakers down in '01, '02, nor in '10.

5=5.

And it still stings like a bitch.

Enjoy the lottery :toast

Kool Bob Love

05-02-2015, 10:35 PM

Say goodbye,,,Duncan is gone,,,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

DAF86

05-02-2015, 10:40 PM

How is calling Kawhi a top 10 player in the league being "bipolar?" He was playing like a top 10 player in the league and deserved that status. After game 6 and tonight, he deserves to be called out. A player of his caliber, one that outplayed Lebron James on the biggest stage, shouldn't be bending over for Matt Barnes.

One thing is calling him out and another is saying that he isn't enough help for Duncan. If he has played the entire season as a top 10 player I would say that he's more than enough help, tbh. And shitting on a 23 years old "for coming up short" in the playoffs is a bit much, specially after the last two post-season he has had. Everyone is allowed to have a sub-par playoffs performance every now and then. Duncan has had a couple of his own too, tbh.

midnightpulp

05-02-2015, 10:47 PM

One thing is calling him out and another is saying that he isn't enough help for Duncan. If he has played the entire season as a top 10 player I would say that he's more than enough help, tbh. And shitting on a 23 years old "for coming up short" in the playoffs is a bit much, specially after the last two post-season he has had. Everyone is allowed to have a sub-par playoffs performance every now and then. Duncan has had a couple of his own too, tbh.

Kind of mutually inclusive, isn't it?

This is beyond frustrating, because this should've been Kawhi's series. The Clippers have like the worst wing rotation in the league, and Kawhi under-performed in three straight games. I still think he's great player and top-15 in the league, but as of right now, he deserves the criticism. If he'd provided enough "help" (like just shoot 50%), the Spurs are advancing to the next round.

DAF86

05-02-2015, 10:53 PM

Kind of mutually inclusive, isn't it?

This is beyond frustrating, because this should've been Kawhi's series. The Clippers have like the worst wing rotation in the league, and Kawhi under-performed in three straight games. I still think he's great player and top-15 in the league, but as of right now, he deserves the criticism. If he'd provided enough "help" (like just shoot 50%), the Spurs are advancing to the next round.

No, you can be a top 10 player and be great most of the time but coming up short from time to time. No need to start revisiting careers for a sub-par perfomance here and there.

TDMVPDPOY

05-02-2015, 10:57 PM

htf did kawhi underperform? he was avg 25ppg in this series

cant do much if enrique is forcing the shit without passing it to anyone with his 2man game or hero ball antics

sso the turd who plays 30mpg who has the lowest ppg then the backup pg, lowest per on the teame escapes blame?

Clipper Nation

05-02-2015, 11:09 PM

Kind of mutually inclusive, isn't it?

This is beyond frustrating, because this should've been Kawhi's series. The Clippers have like the worst wing rotation in the league, and Kawhi under-performed in three straight games. I still think he's great player and top-15 in the league, but as of right now, he deserves the criticism. If he'd provided enough "help" (like just shoot 50%), the Spurs are advancing to the next round.
Enrique being one of the biggest cancers in NBA history, Poop's rotations, and Green vanishing for the first six games of the series had a lot more to do with your loss than Kawhi, tbh. If Green had a couple more 2012 throwback games and Mills had played more minutes instead of Rique, we probably would have lost the series.

IronMexican

05-03-2015, 12:06 AM

Who gives a Fuck who is the best player on his team, mid. Honestly. If Kobe had to do it being the 4th or 5th best player on the team and still won a title, I wouldn't give two shits.

TDMVPDPOY

05-03-2015, 12:12 AM

Enrique being one of the biggest cancers in NBA history, Poop's rotations, and Green vanishing for the first six games of the series had a lot more to do with your loss than Kawhi, tbh. If Green had a couple more 2012 throwback games and Mills had played more minutes instead of Rique, we probably would have lost the series.

dont worry enrique thinks there is a game 8+, just like the 12/13 finals against the heat heading into 13/14 RS and finals...

if the spurs lowballed kawhi, he might as well take a 1yr deal and walk the following year....

why waste the prime of urs carrying dead weight

midnightpulp

05-03-2015, 12:32 AM

Who gives a Fuck who is the best player on his team, mid. Honestly. If Kobe had to do it being the 4th or 5th best player on the team and still won a title, I wouldn't give two shits.

Point is a 19 season, 39 year old vet shouldn't be the best player on a contending team, and every time we Spurs fans expect someone else to take the reigns (Manu, Tony, or Kawhi), they shit the bed, leaving Duncan with the primary burden. Love Kawhi for last year's run. Awesome. But funny enough, Duncan still had the best overall numbers and impact during last year's playoffs. Kawhi had the breakout Finals performance and we all thought it was his time, his team, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes.

Killakobe81

05-03-2015, 12:36 AM

Told y'all it's still Timmy's team ...

TDMVPDPOY

05-03-2015, 12:46 AM

Point is a 19 season, 39 year old vet shouldn't be the best player on a contending team, and every time we Spurs fans expect someone else to take the reigns (Manu, Tony, or Kawhi), they shit the bed, leaving Duncan with the primary burden. Love Kawhi for last year's run. Awesome. But funny enough, Duncan still had the best overall numbers and impact during last year's playoffs. Kawhi had the breakout Finals performance and we all thought it was his time, his team, and he gets outplayed by Matt Barnes.

you get outplayed too if ur pg isnt passing you the ball, even though u got high numbers this series, is when u get those numbers in the duration of the game thats important really matters...

lol enrique not passing to anyone not name duncan or french, what a fkn turd

and we have to put up with this shit next 3 seasons with a declining pg...lol loyalty to selfish player, wtf did this team FO started to become like the lakers....

midnightpulp

05-03-2015, 12:48 AM

you get outplayed too if ur pg isnt passing you the ball, even though u got high numbers this series, is when u get those numbers in the duration of the game thats important really matters...

lol enrique not passing to anyone not name duncan or french, what a fkn turd

and we have to put up with this shit next 3 seasons with a declining pg...lol loyalty to selfish player, wtf did this team FO started to become like the lakers....

Yes, Enrique deserves the majority of the blame in this series.

TDMVPDPOY

05-03-2015, 12:51 AM

wasnt parker injured? yet had the energy to take 20 shots this game...lol injury my ass

Medvedenko

05-03-2015, 01:11 AM

I guess td couldn't make his players better this season....

TDMVPDPOY

05-03-2015, 01:13 AM

I guess td couldn't make his players better this season....

he couldnt, to busy bailing out the choke job of the team

100%duncan

05-03-2015, 01:32 AM

:worthy:

Greatest of his generation

midnightpulp

05-03-2015, 02:14 AM

I guess td couldn't make his players better this season....

I know where you're going with that, but the difference is Kirbs would've shot 10-31 tonight.

DMC

05-03-2015, 02:27 AM

DMC

05-03-2015, 02:29 AM

I guess td couldn't make his players better this season....
They destroyed the champs last year. How do you make that better?

DMC

05-03-2015, 02:31 AM

Who gives a Fuck who is the best player on his team, mid. Honestly. If Kobe had to do it being the 4th or 5th best player on the team and still won a title, I wouldn't give two shits.
Kobe's 36 and hasn't played in a playoff game in 3 years. Duncan is 39 and still the best player on arguably the best team in the league. Kobe will never allow himself to be the 2nd option. He wouldn't even do that when he had a team full of HOFers.

midnightpulp

05-03-2015, 02:32 AM

Very few here know what a bad era with their team actually looks like because they came aboard after the 1999 championship and haven't missed a playoffs since. Wait until those December - March games are races to the bottom instead of to the top, when the forum has threads about the D league hopefuls by the same D league guys who infest the trade threads. Wait until Jim Boylen is the head coach.

Hell, not many Spurfans younger than 50 know what being a bottom feeder is like. I remember the 96 season quite well when we tanked, but that season wasn't particularly painful because I knew we were getting a high draft pick to pair along with D-Rob next year, so the future was bright (and of course we landed the 4th GOAT). Other than that, the Spurs have always made the post-season over the last 3 decades, although the disappointments in the Robinson era were quite frustrating.

And as much as I'm annoyed with Kawhi being outplayed by Matt Barnes, I think he, along with Green, give us a solid wing core moving ahead. If we can snag LMA and Parker somehow rebounds, we can make another run.

TDMVPDPOY

05-03-2015, 05:14 AM

And as much as I'm annoyed with Kawhi being outplayed by Matt Barnes, I think he, along with Green, give us a solid wing core moving ahead. If we can snag LMA and Parker somehow rebounds, we can make another run.

kawhi was beasting till this game which bought him down to the norm
i still dunno how belli and patty didnt play large minutes this game,w hile enrique got more time
if this was really duncan or ginos last game, shouldve just allowed them to volume shoot out the game and series, instead pop relied on t he french faggots to lead them to victory

how frustrating was enriques game today every time the spurs had the lead, dude had to remind everyone it was his team with his hero ball
how about diaw, trying to turn the clock back to 06 by force feeding him to score the team to a win...

i just woke up from afternoon nap, it still hurts fellas...

now if duncan or ginoboli is retiring, u will have to go into full rebuild mode that includes getting rid of the hemroid which is enrique, u dont keep that clown due to loyalty, the spurs already gave him loyalty contract doesnt mean u have to play that clown, just offload him to another team...
i wouldnt mind if this team heads into the lottery with kawhi, as long kawhi gets his touches to improve his game leading into the right direction is all that matters...

Thread

05-03-2015, 09:24 AM

Kobe's 36 and hasn't played in a playoff game in 3 years. Duncan is 39 and still the best player on arguably the best team in the league. Kobe will never allow himself to be the 2nd option. He wouldn't even do that when he had a team full of HOFers.

Though Kobe never let a woman hamstring him like Duncan tragically did. And the stupid ass ended up giving Amy the money she'd demanded. But, he was tardy, too stupid to have the vision to see 6, to at least fear 6. No, not that asshole. He recklessly brazened it out with this woman as the playoffs closed in on him & his and it cost him & his an NBA Title already won.

Kobe used women.
Woman used Duncan.

Kobe took by force what was not his. Then never made another wrong move. Never. Wiped the room, got back into California, then the most brilliant move:::went back to Eagle, hired "used" that female attorney and removed "used" her choker chain in an Eagle court-room. Additionally, when the rapee asked for a settlement, Kobe didn't slam the door in her fuckin' face like Duncan did Amy,,,,,,Kobe cut the check. Result? Our 3rd back-to-back of the 21st Century.

Now sit the fuck down, D, & commissed to shinin'. Fuckin' mirrors!!!

Medvedenko

05-04-2015, 02:29 PM

baseline bum

05-04-2015, 03:07 PM

Hell, not many Spurfans younger than 50 know what being a bottom feeder is like. I remember the 96 season quite well when we tanked, but that season wasn't particularly painful because I knew we were getting a high draft pick to pair along with D-Rob next year, so the future was bright (and of course we landed the 4th GOAT). Other than that, the Spurs have always made the post-season over the last 3 decades, although the disappointments in the Robinson era were quite frustrating.

And as much as I'm annoyed with Kawhi being outplayed by Matt Barnes, I think he, along with Green, give us a solid wing core moving ahead. If we can snag LMA and Parker somehow rebounds, we can make another run.

The Spurs aren't making a run with Aldridge, he'll be on the wrong side of 30 by this summer and he's already starting to go downhill.

DMC

05-04-2015, 03:13 PM

I guess being the best player on this team wasn't enough. Also, Kobe and TD stuck at 5.
It wasn't, and Kobe quit mid season again.

LkrFan

05-06-2015, 02:33 AM

LkrFan

05-06-2015, 02:38 AM

Are there any other HOF (male) players with a Merlin tat and a tramp stamp in NBA history? Jim is a trend setter. He sets gay trends. :lol

DJR210

05-06-2015, 02:54 AM

Are there any other HOF (male) players with a Merlin tat and a tramp stamp in NBA history? Jim is a trend setter. He sets gay trends. :lol

1. He covered up that faggy tat.. as far as I'm concerned, it never happened

2...

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/0608_reggie_miller_1372452_flynet_exc.jpg

LkrFan

05-06-2015, 05:04 AM

1. He covered up that faggy tat.. as far as I'm concerned, it never happened

2...

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/0608_reggie_miller_1372452_flynet_exc.jpg

1. Proof? :lol
2. Reggie's tat is still more manly. At least it's not on the small of his back. :lol

-25 points for Googling that shiiiiiiiiiiit in the first place. You must sit down to take a piss too! :lmao

DJR210

05-06-2015, 05:23 AM

1. Proof? :lol
2. Reggie's tat is still more manly. At least it's not on the small of his back. :lol

-25 points for Googling that shiiiiiiiiiiit in the first place. You must sit down to take a piss too! :lmao

:lol crazy thing is Reggie looks like Paul Bunyan in that pic compared to Kobe

ambchang

05-06-2015, 09:11 AM

Tied for 10th in MVP voting.

DMC

05-06-2015, 09:45 AM

Blake dropped a triple dub on Jim then sent him and his tramp stamp home fishing early. Since he has so much time on his hands, do you think Amy will let him workout at her gym to blow off some steam midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430)? :lol
Now you're a Clippers fan?

How's your two biggest money earners... you know, Kobe and Nash?