2015 Spurs NBA Draft Pick Thread

[SpurPadre]

With the 26th pick, what area of need will be addressed? Here is a list of the #20 to #30 ranked players that we may possibly be able to get:http://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/7/8354255/nba-draft-2015-rankings-karl-towns-justise-winslow

20. Tyus Jones: 6'1, Point Guard, Duke, 18 years old

Jones went off for 23 points on 7-of-13 shooting, leading the Blue Devils to victory in the National Championship with pull up jumpers out of the pick-and-roll. But Jones isn't going to have success in the NBA as a go-to scorer; that success will primarily be due to his playmaking and instincts. He has a stellar first step that he uses to manufacture open looks for his teammates. Jones has his size working against him, but should be able to become a competent game-manager.

21. Jerian Grant: 6'5, Point Guard, Notre Dame, 22 years old

Grant will be a very good floor general at the next level because of his ability to play at different speeds, change directions quickly and make accurate passes off the dribble. Grant's fast first step bodes well for his ability to create in half-court situations, though he'll need to add upper body strength to battle inside, which was a problem in college.

22. Sam Dekker: 6'9, Forward, Wisconsin, 20 years old.

Dekker is versatile and can play both forward positions in the NBA. He's an inconsistent three-point shooter, as proven by his performance in the title game, but when he gets hot, his dribble drive game opens and becomes even more dangerous.
Dekker is a jack of all trades, but a master of none, which could limit him to being just a role player. He possibly has higher upside depending on his usage in a particular system.

23. Jarell Martin: 6'9, Forward, LSU, 20 years old

Martin is built like a freight train with the mobility of a Corvette. Martin can both plow through defenders like a bowling bowl or flash around them with crossovers and spin moves. The big man shot just a hair over 30 percent from three in his two years at LSU, but has sound fundamentals that he should build on.
Despite his skills driving closeouts, Martin can get careless with the ball by putting his head down or by making head-scratching passes. He had an awful assist-turnover ratio and will need to play in control to win the trust of his coaching staff. And though he has versatile defensive potential, his lack of length may hinder his ability to defend most power forwards and rebound well at his position.

24. R.J. Hunter: 6'5, Shooting Guard, Georgia State, 21 years old

College prospects that shoot less than 30 percent from three usually don't get touted as shooting specialists, but Hunter is exactly that because of his ability to hit shots from all over the court off the catch, the dribble or screens. Once he isn't receiving the full attention of college defenses, Hunter could flourish as a shooting specialist.


25. Devin Booker: 6'6, Shooting Guard, Kentucky, 19 years old


Booker has textbook range from the perimeter, which led to a 41 percent three-point mark as a freshman. However, he had major struggles shooting off the dribble, largely due to his slow first step and lack of athleticism. It's possible that Booker will be nothing more than a specialist at the pro level, so his development as a ball handler and defender will be key in determining how much he plays.

26. Kevon Looney: 6'9, Forward, UCLA, 19 years old

With a long wingspan, Looney is a spectacular rebounder for his position and has the potential to be a versatile defender. He complements these skills with floor-spacing and solid court vision. But Looney could be a one-trick pony unless he dramatically improves on his dribble drive game and natural touch. Looney is an intriguing prospect, but his thin frame and lack of athleticism may hold him back from being anything more than a situational backup.

27. Montrezl Harrell: 6'7, Power Forward, Louisville, 21 years old

Few athletes play with as much intensity and passion as Harrell did in his three years at Louisville. The high-motor forward showcased elite explosiveness and is one of the best finishers at the rim in the draft. However, Harrell will be limited as an energy bench player unless he can add a jumper or become an elite rebounder.

28. Caris LeVert: 6'7, Guard, Michigan, 20 years old

LeVert has improved significantly over his three years at Michigan, with his positional versatility being his most appealing trait. The 20-year-old can play both guard positions and small forward, which could be of value for a team looking for an auxiliary talent. LeVert is a knockdown spot up shooter and he has a rapid first step, but he hasn't developed a mid-range jumper or the finishing ability to make scrambling defenders pay.

29. Demetrius Jackson: 6'1, Point Guard, Notre Dame, 20 years old

The ball slows most players down, but Jackson somehow gets faster when he has it. Despite playing at lighting speed, Jackson also remains polished and in control of his dribble His assist totals likely would've been much higher had he not played next to Jerian Grant, but Jackson isn't just a passer, since he's a gifted shooter from three and mid-range. Another year at Notre Dame could boost Jackson's draft position, since he'd be the team's full-time point guard.

30. Christian Wood: 6'11, Power Forward, UNLV, 19 years old

Whichever team drafts Wood will have a project on their hands, but he could be worth it. At 19 years old, Wood is raw, but he has excellent potential as a rebounder and as a shot blocker. He must add strength and become more engaged mentally, but the untapped potential is there. Wood is a streaky shooter, but if he finds consistency he could be a threat to drive closeouts.

[tholdren]

jones out of that list hands down

[TheGoldStandard]

Fridskdj dadssjs - some euro we will never see over here or even consider until he blows his knee or tears an acl

[coachmac87]

Sam Dekker would be huge for this team tbh...Chip will fix that jumper

[AFBlue]

Jackson and LeVert are not in this draft...returned to school.

[AFBlue]

Fridskdj dadssjs - some euro we will never see over here or even consider until he blows his knee or tears an acl

That would be Alpha Kaba, young raw French PF.

[AFBlue]

Hunter from this list tbqh. He and Booker are the best shooters, but Hunter has more experience as a playmaker.

[Silver&Black]

Fridskdj dadssjs - some euro we will never see over here or even consider until he blows his knee or tears an acl

^
This tbh....and ST will anoint Fridskdj dadssjs as the next savior.

[tholdren]

^
This tbh....and ST will anoint Fridskdj dadssjs as the next savior.
ABSOLUTELY. Cue the Kyle Anderson thread bump.

[SpurPadre]

Jackson and LeVert are not in this draft...returned to school.

Yeah, I just read those.

[TheGoldStandard]

Given the amount of free agents I wouldn't mind a sign and trade to include a pick somewhere between 10-15, maybe get lucky and get Hezonja or Cauley Stein

[Twisted_Dawg]

I hope to God we stop drafting these Euro draft and stash trash that never make it over here. Or, if they make it over here they are soft pussys that are chronically injured. Let's just stick with some American players.

[wildbill2u]

Time to get a PG. I don't think Jones will be there when we pick because of his heroics in NCAA. I'm kinda impressed with Cameron Payne who has good all round game and as a bonus is a lefty. Those guys are just hard for most players to guard since they are so used to righties.

DraftExpress: Cameron Payne NBA Draft Scouting Report and Video Breakdownhttp://www.draftexpress.com/article/Cameron-Payne-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-4939

[cd021]

Sam Decker is likely a lotto pick. I like him but not sure how he fits going forward. Spurs have a lot of combo forwards (Leonard, Anderson, LJC) on roster or developing oversees.

The only domestic player I really like at our spot is Justin Anderson. Athletic 6'6 wing who is an excellent defender and improved shooter. Adding length and size on the perimeter is kind of where the league is headed. Having Leonard (6'7) Green (6'6) Anderson (6'9) and Anderson (6'6), potentially going forward with ,maybe, Bertans (6'10) coming over after next season

[cd021]

George Lucas-6'6 PG from Brazil. Similar physical tools to KL. Has a 7'0 wingspan for a PG. Good athlete as well could be a very good defender and a mismatch with his size and strength

Timothe Luwawu-"The French Danny Green"-Long, athletic and good lateral quickness. Sounds like he has more of a driving ability than Green has. Can do a little bit of everything. Shoot defend, create off the dribble etc.


Lucas turn 19 this month and Luwawu turns 20 in 5 days. Would be nice if the Spurs could get their hands on both of them, stash them for a couple of seasons and have two very good two way prospects going forward.

[AFBlue]

Luwawu is a sleeper pick if they're going international. He's labeled as a 3&D guy now, but he might have a higher ceiling. Will be interesting to see the Spurs' draft philosophy...do they maintain max roster flexibility by going international, or bring someone who can contribute sooner rather than later to fill a need?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

We need a play making point guard that will play within the system and not freeze his teammates out.

[TheGoldStandard]

Luwawu is a sleeper pick if they're going international. He's labeled as a 3&D guy now, but he might have a higher ceiling. Will be interesting to see the Spurs' draft philosophy...do they maintain max roster flexibility by going international, or bring someone who can contribute sooner rather than later to fill a need?

Given the 26th pick, I'd say it's almost certain they would go with an international player. Nobody jumps out at that pick that could be useful in a season or two.

[RD2191]

We need a play making point guard that will play within the system and not freeze his teammates out.
i don't even care if he can't ht the side of a barn, tbh. Just a playmaker that can play some D.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

i don't even care if he can't ht the side of a barn, tbh. Just a playmaker that can play some D.
Yea, a player can be taught to shoot anyways

[BatManu20]

The pick will be either Timothe Luwawu, George Lucas, or Guillermo Hernangomez imo. Only 2 more months til the draft :rolleyes

[TheGreatYacht]

Trade up for Tyus

[BatManu20]

Caris Levert and Demtrius Jackson both withdrew their names from the draft and returned to school.

[Dancelot]

I'm confused. Why are we drafting at 26th? Shouldn't we be at 25th because gs, Houston, clippers, Hawks, & Memphis all had better records than us?

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm confused. Why are we drafting at 26th? Shouldn't we be at 25th because gs, Houston, clippers, Hawks, & Memphis all had better records than us?
Memphis and SA had the same record so they decided who got the 25th with a coin-toss. Spurs lost

[Dancelot]

Memphis and SA had the same record so they decided who got the 25th with a coin-toss. Spurs lost
Hmm. Coin toss, seems legit.

[Ditty]

I think we are going shooting guard, and if no good ones available we will go point guard.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hmm. Coin toss, seems legit.
Just the struggle of what's left of the Stern era

[Dancelot]

Just the struggle of what's left of the Stern era
I see, thanks. I would've thought they would've done the smart thing by maybe just using the standings.

[BatManu20]

Some decent talent should be available when select thought, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Fwiw, my favorite player in the draft is Delon Wright. He's as close to a replacement for Manu as you're going to get in this draft. 6'5 PG whose strengths are his defense and his ability to slash/set up for teammates. High IQ player who is extremely unselfish. Only weakness is his jump shot, which can be improved upon. Currently projected to go between 20-30.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8R3MP9jSs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbDBZ2xFUY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYsYIkdeZ4

[cd021]

Given the 26th pick, I'd say it's almost certain they would go with an international player. Nobody jumps out at that pick that could be useful in a season or two.

That and it will effect exactly how much we can offer a big name FA.

[SpurPadre]

Fwiw, my favorite player in the draft is Delon Wright. He's as close to a replacement for Manu as you're going to get in this draft. 6'5 PG whose strengths are his defense and his ability to slash/set up for teammates. High IQ player who is extremely unselfish. Only weakness is his jump shot, which can be improved upon. Currently projected to go between 20-30.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8R3MP9jSs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbDBZ2xFUY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYsYIkdeZ4

Yeah, I'm intrigued by him too. Chad Ford of espn has him projected to go in the early 20s though as do other mock drafts.

[Trill Clinton]

caris levert but he's staying in school and will be a lottery pick next year.

[palangi]

Jerian Grant and it ain't even close

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Trade the pick for a 2016 or 2017 first. Cap space is more valuable than any realistically obtainable player from this draft.

[kobyz]

Dekker going lottery for sure, very good all around SF, remind me Luol Deng with a chilling of Sean Eliot...

[hooperflash]

Delon Wright

Reminds me of Corey Brewer

[Das Texan]

they probably need to fix the draft on many levels.

spurs should really be picking 22 now as the team with the best record out after round 1.

[eDizzle20]

I too hope Delon Wright is available at 26. He's a great defender and can run the pick n roll. His biggest downsides are his age (23) and his shooting. With the uncertainty of Danny Green re-signing, Ginobili's age, and the possible departure of Cory Joseph he makes perfect sense.

[703 Spurz]

How much will Kyle Anderson play next year?

[Chinook]

I like Grant a lot as well. But I'd totally be willing to give Lucas a promise to keep him in the draft. Bring put him on the roster and send him and LJC down to Austin for two years.

If people want instant-impact American players, I think DeShaun Thomas is going to fit the bill.

[SpurPadre]

Chad Ford was just on Sportscenter and showed his latest mock draft...he has us getting Delon Wright PG from Utah. I hope that sticks, tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Chad Ford was just on Sportscenter and showed his latest mock draft...he has us getting Delon Wright PG from Utah. I hope that sticks, tbh.

Parker probably makes RC draft some french guy instead.

[cjw]

That and it will effect exactly how much we can offer a big name FA.

How long does cap hold stay if guy has no intention of coming over same year?

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs are truly going the cap space route, they will trade out of the 1st, no?

[TheGoldStandard]

If the Spurs are truly going the cap space route, they will trade out of the 1st, no?
Probably but I would hope not, getting athletic players is a must

[SilverSpur]

We need Jarrell Martin 6'9" PF to replace Ayers and Bonner

[SpurPadre]

We need Jarrell Martin 6'9" PF to replace Ayers and Bonner

We can replace Ayres with more ventilation (aka more AIR) in the Spurs' training facility and we can replace Bonner with Jared, the Subway guy who will bring in the same value for a lot less money.

[Gervin44Silas13]

dont forget about Adam HAANGA!!!!!!!!!!

[100%duncan]

Draft a wing player. Fuck, would love to have a back-up for Kawhi. Stop fucking stashing shit, if you draft an international player bring him over ASAP.

[Mal]

Draft Matuesz Ponitka with 2nd round pick :)

[100%duncan]

No more fucking pgs. We have parker for 3 years and Patty and Cojo (depends if they keep him) are good enough back-ups.

[Johnny RIngo]

No more fucking pgs. We have parker for 3 years and Patty and Cojo (depends if they keep him) are good enough back-ups.

None of our PGs can run a competent offense though. Patty's a great shooter off the bench but the fat fuck and Cojo are both below average point guards in the modern NBA(can't shoot or create for their teammates)

[100%duncan]

None of our PGs can run a competent offense though. Patty's a great shooter off the bench but the fat fuck and Cojo are both below average point guards in the modern NBA(can't shoot or create for their teammates)

Agree on all points but I want instant impact right now, especially with Tim and Manu's dying years. We still has a shot next year and most probably our PG rotation will remain intact. What we need is a wing, a Kawhi back-up paired with possible manu and beli replacements. If we draft a pg, he'll just rot in "prospect-tier" status.

[Dre_7]

If Sam Dekker is somehow still on the board when the Spurs are up, they would be wise to grab him. He could be a great scorer off the bench and maybe even replace Manu (eventually). The kid is a baller!

[MI21]

Everyone is all "don't draft and stash, sick of that shit" but the truth is 4 of the last 5 1st round picks by the Spurs have been from the NCAA system (G.Hill, Joseph, J.Anderson, Joseph)...

[kobyz]

With the 26th pick in the draft the spurs will draft cedi osman(if he's still on the board), book it! They could keep him in Europe for one or two years... So how do you feel with this pick?? Could be a poor man Manu in the future

[-21-]

Agree on all points but I want instant impact right now, especially with Tim and Manu's dying years. We still has a shot next year and most probably our PG rotation will remain intact. What we need is a wing, a Kawhi back-up paired with possible manu and beli replacements. If we draft a pg, he'll just rot in "prospect-tier" status.

I think a wing who can handle the ball and make plays would be ideal (or a PG tall enough to play alongside Mills).

[Mal]

If Sam Dekker is somehow still on the board when the Spurs are up, they would be wise to grab him. He could be a great scorer off the bench and maybe even replace Manu (eventually). The kid is a baller!

No way. If he isnt a suspect in criminal case nor his knees are attached to his body, he wont be available at 20+ pick

[BillMc]

^
This tbh....and ST will anoint Fridskdj dadssjs as the next savior.

Just ordered my Fridskdj Dadssjs Spurs jersey online. Can't wait... Hear he's gotta brutal crossover...

[Silver&Black]

Just ordered my Fridskdj Dadssjs Spurs jersey online. Can't wait... Hear he's gotta brutal crossover...

Fridskdj Dadssjs.....

My nigga.

[Cloud786]

I think a wing who can handle the ball and make plays would be ideal (or a PG tall enough to play alongside Mills).

Kyle Anderson tbh.

[BatManu20]

If Sam Dekker is somehow still on the board when the Spurs are up, they would be wise to grab him. He could be a great scorer off the bench and maybe even replace Manu (eventually). The kid is a baller!

He won't be, tbh. He's a top 25 lock, most likely top 20, especially with 3 1st round prospects announcing they're returning to school last minute.

[TheGoldStandard]

Just ordered my Fridskdj Dadssjs Spurs jersey online. Can't wait... Hear he's gotta brutal crossover...

Just blew out his ACL in both knees... Spurs definitely signing him

[BatManu20]

Draft a wing player. Fuck, would love to have a back-up for Kawhi. Stop fucking stashing shit, if you draft an international player bring him over ASAP.

Justin Anderson is a good wing prospect who might be available when we pick. Athletic 3&D guy who should carve out a career as a nice backup 2/3 off the bench. He could rise after his combine workouts though due to his athleticism.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EALedoyS3Ac

[BatManu20]

With the 26th pick in the draft the spurs will draft cedi osman(if he's still on the board), book it! They could keep him in Europe for one or two years... So how do you feel with this pick?? Could be a poor man Manu in the future

26 is way too high for him. No chance. If we go Euro in the 1st, it'll likely be Timothe Luwawu or George Lucas.

[BOHOLANO#21]

Spurs should bring up Adam Hanga for summer league and see if he can add depth to our SG/SF position if Beli or DG leaves!

[tim_duncan_fan]

dont forget about Adam HAANGA!!!!!!!!!!

I think the Spurs need to finally bring over the original savior:

Robertas Javtokas.

[BillMc]

Fridskdj Dadssjs.....

My nigga.
:lol

[BillMc]

Just blew out his ACL in both knees... Spurs definitely signing him
Damn the bad luck! :bang

[Russ]

I'm starting to be intrigued by Christian Wood, 6'11" PF from UNLV.

He looks like he's got a lot of athleticism and skill for a guy that size and that young (19). He can jump, shoot, block shots and, if he fills out, be effective under the hoop.

Big upside pick perhaps.

Don't quite get why the mocks have him so low (25-30) in the first round. (DraftExpress actually has the Spurs getting him at 26.)

I fear he will begin to creep up to the edge of the lottery in the coming weeks before the draft.

Would love to see him fall to the Spurs, though. He looks like a good kid (Cali high desert like Kawhi) and you just get a feeling about this guy as an NBA player (in a couple of years).

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/christian-wood

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Christian-Wood-7182/

[AFBlue]

I'm starting to be intrigued by Christian Wood, 6'11" PF from UNLV.

He looks like he's got a lot of athleticism and skill for a guy that size and that young (19). He can jump, shoot, block shots and, if he fills out, be effective under the hoop.

Big upside pick perhaps.

Don't quite get why the mocks have him so low (25-30) in the first round. (DraftExpress actually has the Spurs getting him at 26.)

I fear he will begin to creep up to the edge of the lottery in the coming weeks before the draft.

Would love to see him fall to the Spurs, though. He looks like a good kid (Cali high desert like Kawhi) and you just get a feeling about this guy as an NBA player (in a couple of years).

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/christian-wood

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Christian-Wood-7182/

The skill set and potential are definitely intriguing. I'm guessing he'll rise through the process because no other big in that late first matches his size/length and upside.

[SpurPadre]

What's the likelihood our first pick gets traded out?

[AFBlue]

FYI, they did initial measurements at the pre-draft combine. I've linked the results from the draftexpress article.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2015&source=NBA+Draft+Combine&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=

[AFBlue]

Anderson, a favorite of mine, measured 6'6 230lb with almost a 7ft wingspan. Not bad.

[Ditty]

I've really started to like George Lucas a lot. He has a lot of skills on offense at 18 years old that are intriguing, and his physical features are freakish-6'6 point guard with 7'1 wingspan :wow. He's going to be a good defender in the league at worst. Surprisingly a lot of mock drafts have him going around when we pick, he could be a lottery pick if he waits a year or two and develops his game more imo. Could see the stupid Rockets taking him as high as 18 though as they need a point guard for the future.

[PingPong]

I've really started to like George Lucas a lot. He has a lot of skills on offense at 18 years old that are intriguing, and his physical features are freakish-6'6 point guard with 7'1 wingspan :wow. He's going to be a good defender in the league at worst. Surprisingly a lot of mock drafts have him going around when we pick, he could be a lottery pick if he waits a year or two and develops his game more imo. Could see the stupid Rockets taking him as high as 18 though as they need a point guard for the future.

Another ' two years Away from Being two years Away'? Kid is raw

[Ditty]

Another ' two years Away from Being two years Away'? Kid is raw

I would keep him in Brazil for a year for salary cap purposes, and bring him over the following year to develop in Austin and go from there.

[PingPong]

wrong thread

[PingPong]

I would keep him in Brazil for a year for salary cap purposes, and bring him over the following year to develop in Austin and go from there.

Playing in Brazil, with those shitty coaches, he doesn't go anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkCW9Cf6B4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nunPgjEnbKA

[exstatic]

You don't have to leave him in Brazil. Park him with Tony's ASVEL team in France.

[cantthinkofanything]

You don't have to leave him in Brazil. Park him with Tony's ASVEL team in France.

Park Tony there while you're at it.

[Ditty]

Playing in Brazil, with those shitty coaches, he doesn't go anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkCW9Cf6B4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nunPgjEnbKA

Spurs usually have or hire someone to work with the international kids throughout the year, possibly because of that reason. I won't have any problem bringing him over if it doesn't screw up our salary cap situation. From what it sounds like we are going to need all the salary cap we need this summer, that's why I don't think it will be smart to bring a kid over yet that isn't going to help us right away, when we can use the salary cap on someone that can help us this season.

[exstatic]

Spurs usually have or hire someone to work with the international kids throughout the year, possibly because of that reason. I won't have any problem bringing him over if it doesn't screw up our salary cap situation. From what it sounds like we are going to need all the salary cap we need this summer, that's why I don't think it will be smart to bring a kid over yet that isn't going to help us right away, when we can use the salary cap on someone that can help us this season.

That's why you park him. He signs the little statement, and then doesn't count a penny against the cap.

[cd021]

26 is way too high for him. No chance. If we go Euro in the 1st, it'll likely be Timothe Luwawu or George Lucas.

Lucas is Brazillian, but I agree those are probably the two if we go draft n stash. I like Lucas more. Wish we could nab Minnys 31st pick so we could draft both.

[cd021]

Another ' two years Away from Being two years Away'? Kid is raw

Barely 19. They could stash him a couple of seasons and when he comes over he will be 22 (birthday is in May). Guy is pretty unique. Compares to Kawhi's in terms of physical tools. Massive hands and armspan (7'0). Could give the Spurs a very interesting rotation in three or four seasons with Lucas, Green, Leonard, Anderson, Jean-Charles, and Bertans on the roster.

[Ginobili3]

I'll try not to spoil like last time....robdiaz ethered a nigga :lol

[Chinook]

Hell no I wouldn't stash Lucas. LA can just take $400k less. Dude needs to be locked in Austin for two years along with LJC.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Lucas, Green, Kawhi, Aldridge, Splitter/Duncan= championship

[FkLA]

Anybody watch MWC basketball? I wouldn't mind using our second round pick on Larry Nance Jr of Wyoming tbh.

Son of former NBA All-Star Larry Nance that led Wyoming to their first conference title in forever. 6-8.5, 235 lbs with a 7-0.5 wingspan. Really good athlete, really good defender, has a decent offensive game. Has a lower ceiling but I think he's more NBA ready than SlowMo plus he has the best 3 PT celebration (at 0:55 seconds):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtEXJbDSVI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nuHtl2VGBM

[PingPong]

Georginho (the lil' george) Lucas has a bit of each spurs: overdribble like Parker, does careless passes like Manu, has the hands of Kawhi. But he dunks more than Splitter.

[BatManu20]

Georginho (the lil' george) Lucas has a bit of each spurs: overdribble like Parker, does careless passes like Manu, has the hands of Kawhi. But he dunks more than Splitter.

:lol kid is 18 and extremely raw. He needs a lot of work and isn't ready to contribute at the NBA level yet obviously, but he's got tools you can't teach, and could be a good player down the road with some development.

[Chinook]

I think Lucas will be like Gobert and develop really quickly. I think it'd only take one year in Austin before he'd be ready to contribute, so long as the team really invests in him. He's not a project; he just needs experience. The skill-set is already there.

[intlspurshk]

George Lucas should be the best pick, if he is available at 26

[SpurPadre]

I hope we get the 70s and 80s version of George Lucas and not the 2000s hack version, tbh.

[Uriel]

If anyone with ESPN Insider could post this article, I would really appreciate it. :toast

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/ins...2015-nba-draft (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/insider/story/_/id/12884623/the-dire-state-nba-draft-combine-5-5-2015-nba-draft)

[PingPong]

:lol kid is 18 and extremely raw. He needs a lot of work and isn't ready to contribute at the NBA level yet obviously, but he's got tools you can't teach, and could be a good player down the road with some development.

I was joking, for sure. But he is like Toronto's Bruno Caboclo, will need some time.

[BatManu20]

Watching the NBA Draft Combine on ESPN2 and one of the players that caught my eye is Center Mam Jaiteh. He's a 20 year old from France. He's 6'11 250 lbs with a 7'3.25 wingspan and an impressive 9'2.5 standing reach.

He's been one of the most impressive players that I've watched at this combine so far. He's raw, but could see him as a guy the Spurs would be interested in as a developmental Center.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE48eBaWgAAGYGw.jpg

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[BillMc]

I hope we get the 70s and 80s version of George Lucas and not the 2000s hack version, tbh.
:lol

I was waiting for someone to make that joke!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Watching the NBA Draft Combine on ESPN2 and one of the players that caught my eye is Center Mam Jaiteh. He's a 20 year old from France. He's 6'11 250 lbs with a 7'3.25 wingspan and an impressive 9'2.5 standing reach.

He's been one of the most impressive players that I've watched at this combine so far. He's raw, but could see him as a guy the Spurs would be interested in as a developmental Center.


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The biggest concern with him is that he may not have the IQ or that high of a ceiling to last in the NBA. He was projected to be a mid-first round pick a couple years ago and since has slowly dropped off, mainly because he hasn't shown much improvement in his game. If the Spurs acquire a mid-second round pick, I'd go for it, but not their first rounder.

[BillMc]

As I mentioned in the other thread, I'd love it if Arizona's Hollis-Jefferson were still there when we pick. I think its going to be close.

[AFBlue]

JP Tokoto really stood out in today's combine 5-on-5. Tell me if this profile sounds familiar...long, lanky athlete, good defender, smart player, streaky shooter. Oh and he played for UNC.

[Thomas82]

I personally would like to see us get Christian Wood or Myles Turner.

[BatManu20]

JP Tokoto really stood out in today's combine 5-on-5. Tell me if this profile sounds familiar...long, lanky athlete, good defender, smart player, streaky shooter. Oh and he played for UNC.

"Streaky" is putting it lightly, tbh..

As a UNC fan, I've watched Tokoto a lot the past 2 years, and his jump shot is horrid. And the worst part about it is, he doesn't seem to realize it,so just keeps on shooting long jumpers. His decision making is pretty bad as well. He was by far the most frustrating player on the team.nHe showed flashes of what he's capable of with his elite athleticism, but overall was a major disappointment. I don't see any way a team takes him before pick 40, tbh.

[tholdren]

"Streaky" is putting it lightly, tbh..

As a UNC fan, I've watched Tokoto a lot the past 2 years, and his jump shot is horrid. And the worst part about it is, he doesn't seem to realize it,so just keeps on shooting long jumpers. His decision making is pretty bad as well. He was by far the most frustrating player on the team.nHe showed flashes of what he's capable of with his elite athleticism, but overall was a major disappointment. I don't see any way a team takes him before pick 40, tbh.

NO TOKOTO. FUKA YOTO

[cd021]

As I mentioned in the other thread, I'd love it if Arizona's Hollis-Jefferson were still there when we pick. I think its going to be close.

Apparently a really bad shooter. Heard he's the best wing defender in the draft though. I'd rather Justin Anderson. Terrific athlete, (42 inch max vert) 6'6 with a 6'11 1/2 wingspan. Good defender and better shooter as well.

[SilverSpur]

I know teams want players with every skill set on hand, but what if we were to draft one,maybe two players that are lock down defenders. They block shots , they make steals, the stop the offensive player from penetrating, they make hustle plays but need work on offensive. You could platoon these players to stop the best player on the other team while the other 4 do the scoring.
I guess what I'm asking is there somone in the draft that is a lock down defender that fits the mold of a Dennis Rodman without the baggage.
Someone that doesn't score much but locks down the best player on other teams.
I know that the draft always has players that love to score but hate playing defense. Defending is hard to do, but if we could find the ones that can and love playing defense, then we could work with them on offensive. Maybe accept that all they are going to score is ten or so points a game on put backs and open layups.
Any draft prospects come to mind that fit this Dennis Rodman mold.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Apparently a really bad shooter. Heard he's the best wing defender in the draft though. I'd rather Justin Anderson. Terrific athlete, (42 inch max vert) 6'6 with a 6'11 1/2 wingspan. Good defender and better shooter as well.

Hollis-Jefferson is a monster defender/awful shooter in the Michael Kidd-Gilchrist mold. I'd like to think the Spurs could work on his shot but it may be a year or two before he's any sort of threat.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Just ordered my Fridskdj Dadssjs Spurs jersey online. Can't wait... Hear he's gotta brutal crossover...

Anyone know how to get ahold of Bill/Bill's Family irl?

I think he had a stroke at his keyboard.

[ace3g]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
(https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt)They don't have a lottery pick but one team that started showing up to D'Angelo Russell's games late in the season: San Antonio Spurs.

[raybies]

As soon as I read this, I thought who could we deal. Ideas?

[Outlier]

Probably scouting him for how they're gonna stop him next season. Kid is gonna be a superstar. We don't have anything to offer these lotto teams.

[cd021]

As soon as I read this, I thought who could we deal. Ideas?

I think the closest we could get would probably be 15th with Splitter to Atlanta. 17th with Splitter to Milwaukee or maybe even 18th with Mills to Houston (they are probably going to draft a PG anyway)

[raybies]

My thought was they would have to include Parker with Splitter or Diaw to a team like NY and that's only if they fell out of the top 2. I think Phil would do it.

[BillMc]

Anyone know how to get ahold of Bill/Bill's Family irl?

I think he had a stroke at his keyboard.

:lol

[AFBlue]

Only thing that could get the Spurs in the top-5 would be Kawhi, and I'm not sure I see that.

[exstatic]

Only thing that could get the Spurs in the top-5 would be Kawhi, and I'm not sure I see that.

Oh, sure he could. Are you kidding me? A just 24 YO FMVP DPOY? Spurs would never do it, though.

[AFBlue]

Oh, sure he could. Are you kidding me? A just 24 YO FMVP DPOY? Spurs would never do it, though.

Right, saying "not sure I see it" was to imply that I'm not sure I see the Spurs trading Kawhi away for an unproven prospect like Russell.

[tholdren]

Oh, sure he could. Are you kidding me? A just 24 YO FMVP DPOY? Spurs would never do it, though.

too bad.

Trade Parker to the sixers for the draft pick and richardson.

[cd021]

My thought was they would have to include Parker with Splitter or Diaw to a team like NY and that's only if they fell out of the top 2. I think Phil would do it.

I don't think they would want any of those three players. I thought earlier this season that the Spurs could swap Parker for Calderon and the 3rd pick. The Knicks would be able to add Parker for only about $5 million and save on the cost of the first year of the draft pick. Parkers play in the PS permanently hurt his value.

[apalisoc_9]

Watching the NBA Draft Combine on ESPN2 and one of the players that caught my eye is Center Mam Jaiteh. He's a 20 year old from France. He's 6'11 250 lbs with a 7'3.25 wingspan and an impressive 9'2.5 standing reach.

He's been one of the most impressive players that I've watched at this combine so far. He's raw, but could see him as a guy the Spurs would be interested in as a developmental Center.


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This guy was 6'8 two years ago..wow. I wonder how much he's improved in the last two years..he obviously got taller and bigger though.

would be nice to have knowing Splitter almost always gets injured.

[Russ]

Pounding the Rock says:

2015 NBA draft: no consensus on Spurs' pick in early mock drafts

By Jesus Gomez @JejeGomez, May 20, 2015, 4:00 p.m.

The draft lottery took place on Tuesday and now the final order for the NBA draft is complete. In case you missed it, the Minnesota Timberwolves got the first pick, with the Lakers jumping to second and the 76ers staying at third. The only team to move down were the Knicks, while the rest stayed in place.

Now that the draft picture is clearer, experts are releasing updated versions of their mock drafts. The Spurs are slotted to pick 26, which is typically too low to get a star or even a future starter. Yet if there's a front office that has a history of finding productive NBA players in the late first round, it's the San Antonio's. George Hill, Tiago Splitter and Beno Udrih where selected in that range, not to mention Tony Parker.

It's still a long ways to go until the draft so it's hard to predict what teams will do, but here are the expert's opinions on who the Spurs will pick:

Kevin O'Connor, SB Nation: R.J. Hunter, SG, Georgia State

With Danny Green entering unrestricted free agency and Manu Ginobili on the verge of retirement, the Spurs will need a player who can drain threes and handle secondary ball handling duties. Hunter couldn't have come at a better time; if he falls this far he'll be a major steal.

Draftexpress: Christian Wood, PF, UNLV

Tim Duncan is an ageless wonder, but the Spurs could certainly use some frontcourt depth, with the likes of Aron Baynes, Matt Bonner and Jeff Ayres all entering free agency this summer. 6-11, with long arms and soft tough, Christian Wood is talented enough to get drafted much higher than this, and the Spurs could afford to be patient and develop him.

Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated: Cliff Alexander, F, Kentucky

Alexander's college career ended prematurely because of eligibility issues and he never lived up to his potential. Still, he's a potent rebounder and shot blocker who could be a high value pick this late in the draft.

Sam Vecenie, CBS Sports: Guillermo Hernangomez, C, Spain

Hernangomez is a solid young prospect that is on the same team as Kristaps Porzingis, and actually out-performs him on a per-minute basis. However, he's not as athletic as the lottery pick and profiles worse defensively. Still, he's physical and rebounds well, plus has really good touch from near the hoop and a developing face-up game. The key here for the Spurs though is that they might be able to convince him to stay overseas for a year if they need to, as they will be looking to keep as many options open as possible this summer in free agency.

Aran Smith, NBADraft.net: Terry Rozier, PG, Louisville

Rozier is a dynamic athlete and scorer off the dribble who struggled some to display point guard skills, but some of that can be attributed to Louisville's helter skelter system. Rozier possesses excellent size at the lead guard position. He also has terrific leadership ability. He is intriguing defensively and thrives in making decisions in the the open floor. These are attributes that should all assist him at the NBA level.

Well, that wasn't very helpful. Feel free to share your opinion on who the Spurs should pick in the comments.

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/5/20/8630855/2015-nba-draft-spurs-pick-mock-drafts

Personally, I'd love to see Christian Wood. :flag:

[tholdren]

The more I think about it the more delon wright seems like a fit

[TheCerebral1]

Pounding the Rock says:

2015 NBA draft: no consensus on Spurs' pick in early mock drafts

By Jesus Gomez @JejeGomez, May 20, 2015, 4:00 p.m.

The draft lottery took place on Tuesday and now the final order for the NBA draft is complete. In case you missed it, the Minnesota Timberwolves got the first pick, with the Lakers jumping to second and the 76ers staying at third. The only team to move down were the Knicks, while the rest stayed in place.

Now that the draft picture is clearer, experts are releasing updated versions of their mock drafts. The Spurs are slotted to pick 26, which is typically too low to get a star or even a future starter. Yet if there's a front office that has a history of finding productive NBA players in the late first round, it's the San Antonio's. George Hill, Tiago Splitter and Beno Udrih where selected in that range, not to mention Tony Parker.

It's still a long ways to go until the draft so it's hard to predict what teams will do, but here are the expert's opinions on who the Spurs will pick:

Kevin O'Connor, SB Nation: R.J. Hunter, SG, Georgia State

With Danny Green entering unrestricted free agency and Manu Ginobili on the verge of retirement, the Spurs will need a player who can drain threes and handle secondary ball handling duties. Hunter couldn't have come at a better time; if he falls this far he'll be a major steal.

Draftexpress: Christian Wood, PF, UNLV

Tim Duncan is an ageless wonder, but the Spurs could certainly use some frontcourt depth, with the likes of Aron Baynes, Matt Bonner and Jeff Ayres all entering free agency this summer. 6-11, with long arms and soft tough, Christian Wood is talented enough to get drafted much higher than this, and the Spurs could afford to be patient and develop him.

Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated: Cliff Alexander, F, Kentucky

Alexander's college career ended prematurely because of eligibility issues and he never lived up to his potential. Still, he's a potent rebounder and shot blocker who could be a high value pick this late in the draft.

Sam Vecenie, CBS Sports: Guillermo Hernangomez, C, Spain

Hernangomez is a solid young prospect that is on the same team as Kristaps Porzingis, and actually out-performs him on a per-minute basis. However, he's not as athletic as the lottery pick and profiles worse defensively. Still, he's physical and rebounds well, plus has really good touch from near the hoop and a developing face-up game. The key here for the Spurs though is that they might be able to convince him to stay overseas for a year if they need to, as they will be looking to keep as many options open as possible this summer in free agency.

Aran Smith, NBADraft.net: Terry Rozier, PG, Louisville

Rozier is a dynamic athlete and scorer off the dribble who struggled some to display point guard skills, but some of that can be attributed to Louisville's helter skelter system. Rozier possesses excellent size at the lead guard position. He also has terrific leadership ability. He is intriguing defensively and thrives in making decisions in the the open floor. These are attributes that should all assist him at the NBA level.

Well, that wasn't very helpful. Feel free to share your opinion on who the Spurs should pick in the comments.

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/5/20/8630855/2015-nba-draft-spurs-pick-mock-drafts

Personally, I'd love to see Christian Wood. :flag:

I'm all about Cliff Alexander, RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier, or someone else who falls. There are a few others that make sense as well.

[BatManu20]

Please no to Cliff Alexander. I'll be pissed if we take him.

[BatManu20]

He was arguably the top performer in the 5v5 games at the combine. One of the oldest players in this draft class at 23. He's basically a better version of Ayers, high-energy shot blocker and rebounder. Can also score a little bit. 26 might be too high for him though, but his stock is skyrocketing after his combine performance.

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[BatManu20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqr8RxgBmoY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWaAJHJdgL8

[Vic Petro]

I'm a Syracuse alum so watched a lot of Christmas. He's come a long way in the last two years and developed a nice offensive game. That said, I think his ceiling on a good team is an end of the rotation player.

If the Spurs are all-in for this upcoming season and need an immediate contribution, they could do a lot worse. I'd prefer a player with a little more room to grow.

[RD2191]

I'm a Syracuse alum so watched a lot of Christmas. He's come a long way in the last two years and developed a nice offensive game. That said, I think his ceiling on a good team is an end of the rotation player.

If the Spurs are all-in for this upcoming season and need an immediate contribution, they could do a lot worse. I'd prefer a player with a little more room to grow.
if the spurs draft christmas it's simply to be a hustle guy off the bench. i doubt they think he's a starter or any of that.

[RD2191]

xmas is also from the us virgin islands. not that it matters but kind of cool.

[BatManu20]

If Danny leaves, another guy I'd look out for is Rashad Vaughn. Been saying for months that he'd be a good candidate to replace Green. Same height/size, better all around offensive game, not as good defensively though, although he's no slouch either, and can improve on that end much like Danny did. He's still only 18 too so his ceiling is much higher than Danny's ever was coming out of UNC.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mZ_4EjzVM8

[eDizzle20]

Hopefully Harrell falls to the Spurs at 26. He has the best motor of all draftees and is a good defender in the pnr. He can't shoot, but would be a great scraps type player as far as scoring is concerned.

[BatManu20]

Spurs working out Larry Nance Jr tomorrow.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_goXmNHTBeg

[ace3g]

VCU Ram Nation ‏@VCURamNation (https://twitter.com/VCURamNation) This is bittersweet...

Treveon Graham

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGCk93wUoAAkdaC.jpg:large


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HDt9mvRICI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-GqDy-T0I

[look_at_g_shred]

Dude has a nice overall game. Would be elated if he fell to the spurs

[ace3g]

Sports Mancave ‏@SportsManCave (https://twitter.com/SportsManCave) 23h23 hours ago (https://twitter.com/SportsManCave/status/603378954490224640) Syracuse forward Chris McCullough was at the Spurs facility today.



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[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)
Justin Anderson has worked out for the Bulls and Spurs, today Lakers, next Celtics

[TheGoldStandard]

My money is on whoever is either really slow or awkward or has a really slow shot

[dabom]

My money is on whoever is either really slow or awkward or has a really slow shot

A nickname like slomo pretty much cements both. :lmao

[cd021]

Justin Anderson probably isn't falling to the Spurs but i'd think the Spurs would take him if he's available. That wing rotation going forward (Green, Kawhi, Anderson and Anderson) would have excellent size and length plus athleticism (save for K. Anderson). Spurs would need more play making from PG or SF though.

[BatManu20]

Sports Mancave ‏@SportsManCave (https://twitter.com/SportsManCave) 23h23 hours ago (https://twitter.com/SportsManCave/status/603378954490224640) Syracuse forward Chris McCullough was at the Spurs facility today.



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McCullough was a guy I liked early in the season before his nasty knee injury. He was playing really well for Syracuse before he went down. I'm surprised he decided to come out tbh. But either way, his personality type doesn't fit what the Spurs would typically go for, and I'd bet against him being the pick, but I certainly wouldn't mind it either. He's only 20 with lots of upside. Still rather have Justin Anderson though.

[BatManu20]

To give you an idea of his game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUX0GwBO6OI

[DPG21920]

If Danny leaves, another guy I'd look out for is Rashad Vaughn. Been saying for months that he'd be a good candidate to replace Green. Same height/size, better all around offensive game, not as good defensively though, although he's no slouch either, and can improve on that end much like Danny did. He's still only 18 too so his ceiling is much higher than Danny's ever was coming out of UNC.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mZ_4EjzVM8

Outside of bigs slated to fall in the Spurs range, I'm intrigued by Rashad. Concerned that he tore his knee up & wasn't a fantastic athlete before that it appears. But he can shoot.

[AFBlue]

Outside of bigs slated to fall in the Spurs range, I'm intrigued by Rashad. Concerned that he tore his knee up & wasn't a fantastic athlete before that it appears. But he can shoot.

Working out for the Spurs next week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/604336105735987201

[raybies]

Kids I like so far:
PG Terry Rozier, Delon Wright
SG Rashad Vaughn, RJ Hunter
SF Aleksander Vezenkov, Justin Anderson
PF Christian Wood

Rozier could fill Joseph's role. I think he has a lot of tools.
Wright is a combo guard and could play Manu's role if he can be taught to shoot.
Vaughn is really young. I see him as a Green replacement in the starting lineup. Would save the team 8+ million.
Vezenkov intrigues me. He's young as well. Still 19 and tearing up the Greek league. From what I seen, he's a shooter. He's got beautiful form. His shot reminds me of Dirk's and he has the opportunity to play with his national team. From what we know, he's a tweener although at 6'8''. I could see him as a Draymond Green or Boris Diaw role at small ball 4, but can he play d? He's also a willing passer.
As for Wood, he reminds me of a poor man's Anthony Davis with two way potential. A Matt Bonner role.

Out of all these, i 'd pick Vaughn, then Vezenkov, and then Wood.

I'd pick Vaughn first cause how much he could save the team, his age, and his ceiling. Vezenkov next cause he's the best player on his team at age 19.

[Phenomanul]

^ some of them could be had in the second round...

[BatManu20]

Big, unathletic, fundamentally sound, unselfish, PnR specialist, European, etc.. this guy has "Spur" written all over him, tbh. And he's supposedly shooting up draft boards and expected to be drafted right around where we pick. And he's a potential draft-and-stash player, too. You may very well be looking at the next San Antonio Spur, tbh.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE2u5Zrcrek

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Big, unathletic, fundamentally sound, unselfish, PnR specialist, European, etc..

Sounds like the guy most of ST wish we throw the max at.

[cd021]

Big, unathletic, fundamentally sound, unselfish, PnR specialist, European, etc.. this guy has "Spur" written all over him, tbh. And he's supposedly shooting up draft boards and expected to be drafted right around where we pick. And he's a potential draft-and-stash player, too. You may very well be looking at the next San Antonio Spur, tbh.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE2u5Zrcrek

I think there are better prospects available than him at 26. As a 2nd rounder i wouldn't mind. DX still has him at 40 but CBS and Draft net has him being picked by the Spurs. Spurs may keep him overseas for another year or two.

If the Spurs go international, De Paula, Timothe Luwawu, and Aleksandar Vezenkov would be good choices.

Like to see the Spurs trade down and pick up the 31st and 36th or the 35th and 37th picks for Minny or Phily. Vezenkov is projected to go 33rd but the other two are projected in the 40s.

[AFBlue]

Big, unathletic, fundamentally sound, unselfish, PnR specialist, European, etc.. this guy has "Spur" written all over him, tbh. And he's supposedly shooting up draft boards and expected to be drafted right around where we pick. And he's a potential draft-and-stash player, too. You may very well be looking at the next San Antonio Spur, tbh.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE2u5Zrcrek

While I wouldn't be surprised if they've done extensive scouting on him, the Spurs have been working out players in a completely different mold than Hernangomez. Based on the workouts, they're targeting long athletic 4s and combo guards.

[Calavera]

There are rumors about Barcelona and other euro teams interested in Vezenkov, so maybe he will be a draft and stash guy.

Here's an article from Aldridge http://www.nba.com/news/features/david_aldridge/david-aldridge-big-board-small-forwards-2015-nba-draft/index.html

" One of the best shooting prospects in the Draft is 19-year-old forward Aleksandar Vezenkov, of Cyprian and Bulgarian heritage, who played for the noted team Aris Thessaloniki in the Greek League this season. Vezenkov initially committed to play collegiately in the States for Xavier in 2013 before changing his mind and turning pro overseas.He led Aris in scoring (19.2 points) and rebounding (7.9) this past season, shooting a blistering 44 percent (43 of 98) on 3-pointers, and finished second in the Greek A1 League in scoring. Vezenkov's stroke will certainly make him a valued late first or early second-round pick.
"He's a poor man's (Chris) Mullin," a Southwest Division executive said. "Compact stroke like Chris with the left hand, and he can shoot it well. Knows how to play. But a subpar athlete. Real thick legs. I don't know who he guards. At the offensive end he can make shots, and that's a premium in our league...but he would really struggle guarding threes and fours, no matter where you put him."

[Uriel]

Ford Mock 6.0: Spurs take risk with Harrell


http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/media/motion/2015/0424/dm_150424_NADdraftharrell/dm_150424_NADdraftharrell.jpg&h=376&scale=crop&w=943&location=originPlay

NBA teams continue to sift through data regarding the prospects, but with the combine over, club workouts beginning and the draft less than a month away, ESPN Insider Chad Ford gave us his Mock Draft 6.0 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/mock/?season=2015&version=6&source=Chad-Ford-Mock-Draft) on Tuesday.

Ford projected the San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) to squeeze value out of the 26th pick with his Mock Draft 5.0 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/mock/?season=2015&version=5&source=Chad-Ford-Mock-Draft) by taking Virginia small forward Justin Anderson. But this time, Ford projects the Spurs to take a calculated risk by bringing aboard Louisville power forward Montrezl Harrell (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&playerId=19917).

Ford points out a couple concerns regarding Harrell, who is a tad undersized at the position and has shown a penchant for losing focus. But Ford adds that "a veteran team like the Spurs, with a terrific culture and work ethic could be just the thing for Harrell."

San Antonio could definitely stand to pick up some reinforcements in the frontcourt, which is exactly what Harrell would provide.

Harrell, 21, averaged 15.7 points last season at Louisville to go with 9.2 rebounds while hitting 56.6 percent of his field goals. In San Antonio, Harrell could provide some athleticism and strength, and he has shown the ability to run the floor and consistently defend taller players.

Harrell plays with passion and elite athleticism, which you can catch a glimpse of in some of his highlights in the video above.

It's important to note Ford's mock draft is not a ranking of who he considers the top players, and is based on the latest information he has gleaned from scouts, general managers and other sources on what each team might do in the draft.

Ford expects to knock out at least three more updated mocks before draft night on June 25, so stay tuned.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/3887/ford-mock-6-0-spurs-take-risk-with-harrell

Interesting that Ford would have the Spurs take Harrell completely out of nowhere, when his name is almost never even mentioned in the late first round. Maybe he knows something we don't? :stirpot:

[AFBlue]

Interesting that Ford would have the Spurs take Harrell completely out of nowhere, when his name is almost never even mentioned in the late first round. Maybe he knows something we don't? :stirpot:

They interviewed him at the combine, and they've been consistently working out players in his mold...undersized, crazy long, athletic, developing perimeter game. With Harrell, Christmas, Mickey and McCullough (all players the Spurs worked out) in the late first/early second round mix, it looks like a position they will target with their first pick. And Harrell is obviously the best value.

[Uriel]

They interviewed him at the combine, and they've been consistently working out players in his mold...undersized, crazy long, athletic, developing perimeter game. With Harrell, Christmas, Mickey and McCullough (all players the Spurs worked out) in the late first/early second round mix, it looks like a position they will target with their first pick. And Harrell is obviously the best value.
Sounds to me like they're searching for a backup SF to Kawhi Leonard. These players seem to be in exactly the same mold as him.

[Outlier]

Well Ford just ruined Spurs chance of getting Harrell by exposing this news to the public.

[Baam]

I don't buy the Harrell pick for one second... If they go big they have to go for upside with Upshaw or Kaba, not another undersized center like Blair...

[spurspokesman]

Draft and stash.

[AFBlue]

Sounds to me like they're searching for a backup SF to Kawhi Leonard. These players seem to be in exactly the same mold as him.

More Paul Millsap or Kenneth Faried than Kawhi tbqh.

[AFBlue]

I don't buy the Harrell pick for one second... If they go big they have to go for upside with Upshaw or Kaba, not another undersized center like Blair...

Upshaw has been kicked out of two programs. No thanks.

Kaba is intriguing as a long-term prospect, but he's incredibly raw...kind of like George Lucas de Paula. I'm not in love with Harrell, but he's much more ready to contribute immediately than most other prospects in that mold.

[TD 21]

Considering he was regarded as a fringe top ten prospect last season and a fringe top twenty one this season, he'd be good value at 26.

That said, I'm not a fan. Not so much of him specifically, but his type: Undersized (granted, he's long armed) PF's, that can't shoot or protect the rim, have limited value because they can only work well next to stretch C's and preferably those that can also offer a modicum of rim protection. Suffice it to say, there aren't many of them.

He'd be a nice fit with the Trail Blazers. Even if Aldridge were to re-sign, he doesn't really have a backup, plus Leonard is the exact type who'd fit well next to him.

[DJR210]

Draft and stash.

Sadly, this will be the route. Sucks because the year that they don't draft and stash, they get James Anderson 2.0.. no balls, and not very bright (Kyle Anderson).. We would be in much better shape defensively if fucking Morman ass Utah didn't take Gobert..

[RD2191]

Harrell is a relentless floor-runner, getting out regularly in transition beating opposing big men down the court. He's a constant target for lobs and alley-oop plays in both the half and full court, and is a terrific finisher around the basket in general, converting a terrific 65% of his attempts around the rim on the season. He seems to relish taking contact around the basket, drawing free throws at a solid rate in return.


From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3c8LpOACh
http://www.draftexpress.com

[RD2191]

Spurs desperately need someone who can finish a fast break. Spurs fucking suck at finishing a fast break.:lol

[Russ]

Interesting that Ford would have the Spurs take Harrell completely out of nowhere, when his name is almost never even mentioned in the late first round. Maybe he knows something we don't? :stirpot:

For what it's worth, Harrell wouldn't exactly be a sleeper for the Spurs at 26.

The two biggest mock draft sites have him going before the Spurs would even get a shot at him.

NBADraft.net has him going at 17 and Draft Express has him going at 23.

[Ditty]

Montrezi Harrell, Draymond Green 2.0?

Harrell at least brings great defense unlike Blair. Doesn't have the shooting touch like Green yet, but he could be a very nice back up energy power forward off the bench behind Aldridge, or even going small with Aldridge at Center, and Harrell at power forward.

We had no one athletic enough to guard Blake Griffin, so I can see the interest in Harrell.

[tholdren]

Interesting that Ford would have the Spurs take Harrell completely out of nowhere, when his name is almost never even mentioned in the late first round. Maybe he knows something we don't? :stirpot:

LOL people named their child Montrezl

Fo shizzle

must be french

[cd021]

Sounds to me like they're searching for a backup SF to Kawhi Leonard. These players seem to be in exactly the same mold as him.

I'm thinking they are looking for a stretch big. Anderson will probably get some burn at backup 3 this season, if Beli isn't brought back. The big man rotation is probably more of an issue than the wing at this point.

[cd021]

Montrezi Harrell, Draymond Green 2.0?

Harrell at least brings great defense unlike Blair. Doesn't have the shooting touch like Green yet, but he could be a very nice back up energy power forward off the bench behind Aldridge, or even going small with Aldridge at Center, and Harrell at power forward.

We had no one athletic enough to guard Blake Griffin, so I can see the interest in Harrell.

Not sure if the the whole guard Blake thing is the reasoning. The Spurs 3 big man rotation is all over 30 (Duncan 39, Diaw 33, Splitter 30) Spurs need to start looking ahead. They view him as the best big in that range.

I wonder if Harrell would play C with the Spurs. only 6'8 but strong enough to guard bigger defenders. Good rebounder and very athletic with freakish arms. According to DX he can hedge and switch on screens. Showed signs of an outside shot. Unless he starts with the intention of bringing Splitter off the bench he would probably be the 5 with Diaw at the 4 off the bench.

[BatManu20]

Elite athlete, really good wing fender, solid rim-attacker, atrocious shooter. As a UNC fan, I can tell you there hasn't been a more frustrating/disappointing player on campus in the past decade. He's got top-10 pick ability, but just hasn't put it together. And he's a poor decision maker at this point. His jump shot is a huge liability right now. But, he's a stand up kid that PATFO would like, and if he ever figures it out, he could be a good player in the NBA. His elite athleticism & defense is intriguing at this point. He'd automatically be the best athlete on the team, better than Kawhi.

608659005716635648



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8YXHyWp2b8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh2yHq3QEz4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-H7Cjl9sII

[Uriel]

SAN ANTONIO SPURS (http://www.si.com/nba/team/san-antonio-spurs)

CLIFF ALEXANDER, F
KANSAS, FRESHMAN | 6-8, 240
There are strong rumblings that someone is going to take a flyer on Alexander late in the first round. Alexander underachieved last season, a year that ended abruptly due to NCAA violations. But he is a big, physical shot blocker who plays well off the ball and has enormous potential. Low risk, high reward here.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/10/nba-mock-draft-emmanuel-mudiay-kristaps-porzingis-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor (http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/10/nba-mock-draft-emmanuel-mudiay-kristaps-porzingis-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor)

[AFBlue]

Interesting note on Alexander. They've worked out a lot of the undersized, yet long and athletic bigs, but I'm not sure he's one of them. What makes it even more interesting is that I'm pretty sure RC and Bill Self have a good relationship. The same Bill Self that coached Alexander for his one less-than-stellar season at Kansas. I think Cliff even threw Self under the bus in his DX workout vid when asked why he didn't get the minutes. Didn't sound like he had a positive experience, and he wasn't trying to spin it either.

I'd honestly be surprised if it was Alexander to the Spurs.

[kobyz]

Could we use Anderson to move up a little in the draft? Or he's a trash on every one board?

[AFBlue]

Could we use Anderson to move up a little in the draft?

Not likely. He's on a cheap contract, but he hasn't done anything in the league to demonstrate he'd be a better value than a mid-first round pick this year. If the Spurs want to trade up, the most likely asset is Mills. He's a proven rotation player and is on a relatively cheap contract.

[BatManu20]

Friendly reminder: The draft is in 8 days. Free Agency starts in less than 2 weeks. Time for PATFO to make some moves.

[spurtech09]

JESUS CHRIST IS COMING...Praise the Almighty king Christ Jesus and Glory to God...god bless everyone :)

[BatManu20]

Saw 4 different mocks today that have us taking SF Anthony Brown from Stanford. Don't know much about him. This is the first time I've seen him mocked in the 1st round. 5th year Sr who is a 3&D prospect apparently.



http://youtu.be/9D7MQZ5h2S4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2wF-2YFeI

[TheGoldStandard]

No draft and stash please!!! Need to draft players that fill a need not a potential need 4 years down the road. Need a slasher who can creat there own shot and can dribble.

[kobyz]

have a source saying spurs make a promise to Jarell Martin...

[monkeypunk]

JESUS CHRIST IS COMING...Praise the Almighty king Christ Jesus and Glory to God...god bless everyone :)

Go fuck yourself

[monkeypunk]

Saw 4 different mocks today that have us taking SF Anthony Brown from Stanford. Don't know much about him. This is the first time I've seen him mocked in the 1st round. 5th year Sr who is a 3&D prospect apparently.



http://youtu.be/9D7MQZ5h2S4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2wF-2YFeI

Didn't see a lot of D in those vids and he has a slow release that nba level defenders will be able to get to but perhaps Chip can work some magic.

[TheGoldStandard]

Didn't see a lot of D in those vids and he has a slow release that nba level defenders will be able to get to but perhaps Chip can work some magic.

Slow release and not committed to defense, sounds like a Spurs draft pick

[TheGoldStandard]

have a source saying spurs make a promise to Jarell Martin...
I hope not

[BatManu20]

have a source saying spurs make a promise to Jarell Martin...

Unless it's TSpence, I wouldn't trust it, tbh.

[Uriel]

Chad Ford's Mock Draft 7.0 still has us getting Montrezl Harrell at 26, and Justin Anderson going to Memphis at 25.

In DX's Mock, Anderson goes to the Spurs at 26, and Ford similarly had us getting him at 26 in order mocks. This is strong evidence that he's still on the board by the time we pick, we'll most likely select him.

[AFBlue]

Slow release and not committed to defense, sounds like a Spurs draft pick

Yes, sounds like exactly one in the past decade. Definitely a trend worth following.

[AFBlue]

Saw 4 different mocks today that have us taking SF Anthony Brown from Stanford. Don't know much about him. This is the first time I've seen him mocked in the 1st round. 5th year Sr who is a 3&D prospect apparently.



http://youtu.be/9D7MQZ5h2S4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2wF-2YFeI

He's been sitting in the early to mid second round for much of the draft process, and he's recently moved up due to the withdrawal of several international prospects that were fringe first rounders. As I said in the think tank thread, unless the Spurs are positive they're going to lose Danny and are looking to replace him in the draft, I don't see Brown as the pick. They've been working out a smattering of wing players, but it seems like most of their workouts have been targeted at playmaking guards and stretch 4s. Hard to see them going away from either of those, unless real value falls to #26.

[AFBlue]

Chad Ford's Mock Draft 7.0 still has us getting Montrezl Harrell at 26, and Justin Anderson going to Memphis at 25.

In DX's Mock, Anderson goes to the Spurs at 26, and Ford similarly had us getting him at 26 in order mocks. This is strong evidence that he's still on the board by the time we pick, we'll most likely select him.

No one really knows where the Spurs have him slotted on their draft board, but it's a safe bet to assume he's higher than #26. He has the measurables to be an elite defender, stroked it from 3 last year, and seems to have the right intangibles to continue improving...by all accounts a well-spoken, intelligent kid with good work ethic. I personally think there are too many teams in front of the Spurs looking for defense and shooting from the wing to let him slip, but we'll see in a week.

[venitian navigator]

It's possible that the FO decision about re-sign Green depends on the drafting of JA ? I frankly don't have a clue about what direction we're gonna take...the only thing that's for sure is that everything depends, first of all, on the Tim+Manu decisions about re-signing...

[AFBlue]

It's possible that the FO decision about re-sign Green depends on the drafting of JA ? I frankly don't have a clue about what direction we're gonna take...the only thing that's for sure is that everything depends, first of all, on the Tim+Manu decisions about re-signing...

No, I think they can only address either small tactical needs or longer-term needs with the draft. For instance, they're going to let Ayres and/or Bonner roll off, so they need some stretch 4 help. Or, they know Manu will retire soon so they need to get the playmaking guard of the future and hope Manu comes back for one more year. Either way, I don't think any draft pick will be expected to drive FOs decision in any meaningful way on the big questions this summer like Kawhi, Green, Duncan or Ginobili.

[Chinook]

It's possible that the FO decision about re-sign Green depends on the drafting of JA ?

It shouldn't. Green is better than Anderson, and he's likely to remain better than him for the next three or four years.

[Seventyniner]

It shouldn't. Green is better than Anderson, and he's likely to remain better than him for the next three or four years.

But ~$9M better? Especially if that money can be used better elsewhere?

FWIW I would still rather have Danny at $10M than J. Anderson at $1M. But the question had to be asked.

[Chinook]

But ~$9M better? Especially if that money can be used better elsewhere?

FWIW I would still rather have Danny at $10M than J. Anderson at $1M. But the question had to be asked.

I think comparing what Green makes to what Anderson makes is a little disingenuous. The difference is really between Green's cap hold and Anderson's rookie hold. That's like $6 Million. Do I think Green is better than Anderson and an MLE player? Probably. Do I think Green, Wright, Joseph, and Aldridge is better than Mills, Anderson, Neal and Aldridge? Almost certainly.

It's all about opportunity cost, and you don't money-ball your starting two-guard if you have easier ways of getting that money.

[TheGoldStandard]

I think comparing what Green makes to what Anderson makes is a little disingenuous. The difference is really between Green's cap hold and Anderson's rookie hold. That's like $6 Million. Do I think Green is better than Anderson and an MLE player? Probably. Do I think Green, Wright, Joseph, and Aldridge is better than Mills, Anderson, Neal and Aldridge? Almost certainly.

It's all about opportunity cost, and you don't money-ball your starting two-guard if you have easier ways of getting that money.

Especially given that those 2/3 combo guards who can shoot the 3 ball and play excellent defense are hard to come by for cheap.

[Seventyniner]

I think comparing what Green makes to what Anderson makes is a little disingenuous. The difference is really between Green's cap hold and Anderson's rookie hold. That's like $6 Million. Do I think Green is better than Anderson and an MLE player? Probably. Do I think Green, Wright, Joseph, and Aldridge is better than Mills, Anderson, Neal and Aldridge? Almost certainly.

It's all about opportunity cost, and you don't money-ball your starting two-guard if you have easier ways of getting that money.

I was assuming that picking Anderson would mean that the Spurs were looking to let Green walk and use the cap space in another way.

Agreed that letting Green go should be a last resort.

[Chinook]

I was assuming that picking Anderson would mean that the Spurs were looking to let Green walk and use the cap space in another way.

Agreed that letting Green go should be a last resort.

I know. What I was saying is that they don't gain $9 Million in cap space; they gain $6 Million, and that's much less valuable. By itself, it can only buy an MLE player. It can combine to make enough cap space for a max PF, but they can get the requisite space in other ways as well.

[TheGoldStandard]

What are your thoughts on Andrew Harrison as a PG/SG in the 2nd?

[Chinook]

What are your thoughts on Andrew Harrison as a PG/SG in the 2nd?

Would be a great pick if he fell that far. He won't, so no.

[Mal]

I`d like Justin Anderson or RJ Hunter.

[wildbill2u]

How about Guillermo Hernangomez. Big, physical, young and can be stashed if necessary. Has good hands, finishes well and battles under the boards.

[TheGoldStandard]

How about Guillermo Hernangomez. Big, physical, young and can be stashed if necessary. Has good hands, finishes well and battles under the boards.

Another splitter

[admiralsnackbar]

Another splitter Not even close, chief.

[K...]

Another splitter

splitter as a late first was a massive value. your alogy fails. ill take solid and fragile over sturdy but raw (see) ayres for ex

[TheGoldStandard]

splitter as a late first was a massive value. your alogy fails. ill take solid and fragile over sturdy but raw (see) ayres for ex

How does it fail? They have similar games from a euro stand point. Both don't have huge athletic ability but have good foot work to sty in front of guys and play hard. Splitter had a jumper while playing in the euro leagues. GH would be 2-3 seasons away from coming over anyway

[TheGoldStandard]

Do the Spurs make a trade to get an extra pick in the draft or trade their pick for an early 2nd rounder? The cap space scenario that they are facing if they plan to go all in on a big FA is the concern. Say you move Splitter what is a reasonable amount for return? 16th or 17th? If they move Diaw or Mills same question.

[AFBlue]

Do the Spurs make a trade to get an extra pick in the draft or trade their pick for an early 2nd rounder? The cap space scenario that they are facing if they plan to go all in on a big FA is the concern. Say you move Splitter what is a reasonable amount for return? 16th or 17th? If they move Diaw or Mills same question.

The question is whether someone in the teens has the requisite cap space to absorb Splitter outright, and the desire to give up their first rounder to do so. Given his struggle to remain healthy, I just don't see a scenario where a team pays that price. Mills is much more of a trade asset given his modest salary, but the Spurs may also lose CoJo in free agency so a Mills deal could leave them razor thin in the backcourt.

Bottom line: it's not impossible, but I don't think a trade is probable.

[Big P]

I can see the Spurs packaging their 2 picks, #'s 26 and 55 for Minny's 2 second rounders' #'s 31 and 36 or Philly's 2 second rounders #'s 35 and 27 or Philly's #35, #47, and #60...unless there is an absolute steal at 26, I think they would rather open up as much cap room as possible.

[TheGoldStandard]

I can see the Spurs packaging their 2 picks, #'s 26 and 55 for Minny's 2 second rounders' #'s 31 and 36 or Philly's 2 second rounders #'s 35 and 27 or Philly's #35, #47, and #60...unless there is an absolute steal at 26, I think they would rather open up as much cap room as possible.

Who would you take at 31# & 36#? or 35# & 47#?
Maybe Christian Wood and Andrew Harrison or Rakeem Christmas and Jarell Martin or JP Tokoto?

[Big P]

Who would you take at 31# & 36#? or 35# & 47#?
Maybe Christian Wood and Andrew Harrison or Rakeem Christmas and Jarell Martin or JP Tokoto?

Good question, I hadn't really thought about it, but I think the most logical thing to do is trade down and see if we get lucky and are able to send one of them to Austin and the other 1 or 2 draft and stash. I'm gonna look at the mock drafts and see who looks good.

[Russ]

Who would you take at 31# & 36#? or 35# & 47#?
Maybe Christian Wood and Andrew Harrison or Rakeem Christmas and Jarell Martin or JP Tokoto?

I'd take Christian Wood at 26.

[admiralsnackbar]

I can see the Spurs packaging their 2 picks, #'s 26 and 55 for Minny's 2 second rounders' #'s 31 and 36 or Philly's 2 second rounders #'s 35 and 27 or Philly's #35, #47, and #60...unless there is an absolute steal at 26, I think they would rather open up as much cap room as possible. Rookie scale contracts don't significantly impact the cap -- if we were really pinching pennies I guess we could just trade our pics for future considerations... but with Timmy's age creeping up/chip window closing, I don't think the FO is going to be looking to be frugal, or patient developing guys overseas. They're going to be looking for people who could reasonably be expected to contribute this year or next, IMO.

[Big P]

I disagree, every bit will count, including a million plus for a rookie scale contract, I think they would rather spend their money on a proven commodity, although I do agree that they could just trade the pick outright for future considerations, but why not get some value for the 26 pick and still not take on any salary. It seems like a no brainer to move back in the draft unless there is a player at 26 that the FO can't pass up.

[SpurPadre]

Would it be worth trying to trade the 26th pick and next year's 1st round pick just to move a few spots into 20-22nd pick in this draft?

[TheGoldStandard]

Would it be worth trying to trade the 26th pick and next year's 1st round pick just to move a few spots into 20-22nd pick in this draft?

Theyll have 2 2nd round picks next year might try to ship one of them plus the 26 to move up a few slots but not likely

[BatManu20]

Would it be worth trying to trade the 26th pick and next year's 1st round pick just to move a few spots into 20-22nd pick in this draft?

Highly unlikely. The Spurs value draft picks, unlike many teams in the NBA. They're an asset, a chance to get a developmental piece of the future at a very cheap price.

[BatManu20]

Jonathan Holmes has reportedly been canceling his workouts with teams selecting in the early 30's. This suggests that a team in the late 20's has already promised him he'll be taken. That could be the Spurs, given how close R.C. and co. are with the Texas Basketball program . They know Holmes well (he's also from San Antonio), and he's the type of team-first, stand-up kid that the Spurs like. Wouldn't be surprised if we have another Cojo situation where they reach on a guy who they're very familiar with. He's also a stretch 4, which the spurs appear to be interested in. Just speculation, but wouldn't at all be surprised.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklZI6ji63c

[TheGoldStandard]

Jonathan Holmes has reportedly been canceling his workouts with teams selecting in the early 30's. This suggests that a team in the late 20's has already promised him he'll be taken. That could be the Spurs, given how close R.C. and co. are with the Texas Basketball program . They know Holmes well (he's also from San Antonio), and he's the type of team-first, stand-up kid that the Spurs like. Wouldn't be surprised if we have another Cojo situation where they reach on a guy who they're very familiar with. He's also a stretch 4, which the spurs appear to be interested in. Just speculation, but wouldn't at all be surprised.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklZI6ji63c

Looks like a poor man's aldridge especially with the Texas ties.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Do the Spurs really want to use that pick on a senior who averages 10ppg? You gotta roll the dice on Christian Wood instead.

[kobyz]

Another splitter

More like the next Luis Scola...

[Chinook]

Do the Spurs really want to use that pick on a senior who averages 10ppg? You gotta roll the dice on Christian Wood instead.

I wish Holmes were younger, but he'd absolutely fit a need for the Spurs. Think he'd be a much better pro than he would a college player. Holmes looks like he could be a starter one day.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

He looks good in the draftexpress video, and if he could shoot the three ball consistently, he'd be a more physical Bonner, with toughness. I don't doubt that type of player could be a rotation player for the Spurs. My concern is what magic the Spurs could conjure with the 26th pick in a stacked draft, and if that pick should be used on a senior whose ceiling is visible. I wouldn't be upset with the pick though, because after all, I'm no talent scout.

[FireMicoHalili]

Do teams abide by the promises they make prior to the draft?

[AFBlue]

Holmes would be an underwhelming pick. I get the Texas ties, but he was not a standout player there in four years. He doesn't do anything above average, nor does he have above average size or length. I get that he's performed well in the draft process, but you have four years of underwhelming production at the college level. Projecting pro success for Joseph was a risk, but he was 19 when drafted and could be developed. Holmes is already 22.

[BatManu20]

Holmes would be an underwhelming pick. I get the Texas ties, but he was not a standout player there in four years. He doesn't do anything above average, nor does he have above average size or length. I get that he's performed well in the draft process, but you have four years of underwhelming production at the college level. Projecting pro success for Joseph was a risk, but he was 19 when drafted and could be developed. Holmes is already 22.

Again, there is no rumor of the Spurs wanting to pick Holmes or having interest, this is just my personal speculation, or connecting of the dots, if you will. But I think Holmes has a pretty good chance to be a better pro than he was a college player. He reminds me a bit of Draymond Green, who was a 2nd round pick due to his lack of size. Holmes obviously had a bit of a disappointing season last season. His Jr year was his best season as a Longhorn, when he played the 4. He was moved to the 3 last year to make room for Myles Turner, and it obviously affected his impact on the game, as his PPG average dropped 3 points and his shooting % dropped 10%. But, as a stretch-4/energy and hustle guy, he's the type of player that the Spurs seem to be interested in, and the staff is very familiar with him given the Texas ties. I just wouldn't be surprised if he's the pick is all, but I wouldn't go as far as to say I think he will be.

[TheGoldStandard]

I just hope they pick someone who can be useful sooner rather than later. Tired of watching the majority of our draft picks end up in Europe and never come over

[Big Empty]

I just hope they pick someone who can be useful sooner rather than later. Tired of watching the majority of our draft picks end up in Europe and never come over

[BatManu20]

22 yr old, 6'7 212 lb SF from Latvia.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmTjMq6QAiY

[TheGoldStandard]

22 yr old, 6'7 212 lb SF from Latvia.

611951820890505216


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmTjMq6QAiY

At 55 why not

[wildbill2u]

At 55 why not

Yeah, he's already got a better handle than Green and as a bonus can make layups.

[DPG21920]

Holmes looks pretty damn solid. He doesn't have a ton of flaws. You can really work with a player like that. He's not ideal size, but he's not tiny. Spurs need a motor guy - if that guy can also happen to shoot? That would be the icing on the damn cake for the Spurs big man rotation.

Imagine Faried with a jump shot?

[TheGoldStandard]

Holmes looks pretty damn solid. He doesn't have a ton of flaws. You can really work with a player like that. He's not ideal size, but he's not tiny. Spurs need a motor guy - if that guy can also happen to shoot? That would be the icing on the damn cake for the Spurs big man rotation.

Imagine Faried with a jump shot?

Do they improve there backup wing thru FA?

[AFBlue]

Again, there is no rumor of the Spurs wanting to pick Holmes or having interest, this is just my personal speculation, or connecting of the dots, if you will. But I think Holmes has a pretty good chance to be a better pro than he was a college player. He reminds me a bit of Draymond Green, who was a 2nd round pick due to his lack of size. Holmes obviously had a bit of a disappointing season last season. His Jr year was his best season as a Longhorn, when he played the 4. He was moved to the 3 last year to make room for Myles Turner, and it obviously affected his impact on the game, as his PPG average dropped 3 points and his shooting % dropped 10%. But, as a stretch-4/energy and hustle guy, he's the type of player that the Spurs seem to be interested in, and the staff is very familiar with him given the Texas ties. I just wouldn't be surprised if he's the pick is all, but I wouldn't go as far as to say I think he will be.

He never shot higher than 33% from the college three point line. And he doesn't have the same defensive stats that Draymond put up in college either. I dunno, I just think there are other undersized F/Cs out there with better overall games. Off the top of my head I'd rather the Spurs take Harrell, Mickey, Nance or Christmas.

[DPG21920]

Do they improve there backup wing thru FA?

Who knows - but if they can get a legit back up wing in the draft I'm sure they will. But at this point, you don't know who falls. I am really just commenting on Holmes and I think he looks solid. Has flaws obviously, but there is a lot to his game which you can build on I think. Odds are he doesn't make it, but looks solid.

In FA, the only thing solid we have is them looking to court a big FA big like LA/Gasol. Nothing else has come out yet, but I don't see any wings they can really get in FA. So I would imagine the draft/trades is the way to go there.

[AFBlue]

Holmes looks pretty damn solid. He doesn't have a ton of flaws. You can really work with a player like that. He's not ideal size, but he's not tiny. Spurs need a motor guy - if that guy can also happen to shoot? That would be the icing on the damn cake for the Spurs big man rotation.

Imagine Faried with a jump shot?

Faried dominated the boards in college and is a supreme athlete. And as I mentioned above, the guy shot in the low thirties behind the college three point line his entire career.

[DPG21920]

He never shot higher than 33% from the college three point line. And he doesn't have the same defensive stats that Draymond put up in college either. I dunno, I just think there are other undersized F/Cs out there with better overall games. Off the top of my head I'd rather the Spurs take Harrell, Mickey, Nance or Christmas.

Well, if he's Draymond good, he would be valued much higher. If he's 75% of Green that would be huge. Don't see Green in him though. Green is an elite defender (it seems) and a very talented play maker for his size. Holmes doesn't appear to be a playmaker, but he does have similar shooting and scoring ability (prob better all around there than Green) and hustles the same way. Unlikely he will approach Green's level of defense, but Green has DPOY level defense so that's not realistic anyways.

[DPG21920]

Faried dominated the boards in college and is a supreme athlete. And as I mentioned above, the guy shot in the low thirties behind the college three point line his entire career.

Holmes has done a pretty good job on the glass - him being forced into more of a perimeter role hurt that. He's not as athletic as Faried - but similar mold. High energy, phsyical, good on the glass, decent defensively and Holmes has a better offensive game for sure.

There are questions about him obviously - I was just making a rough sketch of a comparison for team need.

[Chinook]

I think Holmes playing the three was a really good thing for him. The skills he developed should serve him well in the stretch-four era of the league. He's also not really undersized -- especially for today's league. He's bigger than Green, and he can score in the post better than he can score from outside. He also seems grown into his body, which is what the Spurs need from a rookie who could get decent minutes considering who is currently ahead of him.

There are players I like more than Holmes, but I think he would be a solid, solid compliment to Anderson at the forward spots. Only issue drafting him is the same with Harrell -- the team is almost certainly going to bring over LJC this summer. Even more than with Harrell, LJC and Holmes play the same role. While I like Holmes more, it may not make sense to use a very important pick on a spot that seems like it's covered. Move LJC for a high second-rounder (Sixers fans seem to like him), and maybe the team can get Holmes AND one of the other guys they want the team to get.

[DPG21920]

I am fully expecting a flurry of annoucements, rumors and trades here in the next 3-5 days including an annoucement about Tim and Manu (at least their decisions to return - not their contract, but perhaps that too). The finals are over, GS has had their moment/parade and now it's time for business. Woj is a must follow the next week.

I would not be surprised to active trading going on both because the draft looks really solid, people are really maneuvering for FA (with impending salary scale jump) & all of the new coaches.

[BatManu20]

Holmes has done a pretty good job on the glass - him being forced into more of a perimeter role hurt that. He's not as athletic as Faried - but similar mold. High energy, phsyical, good on the glass, decent defensively and Holmes has a better offensive game for sure.

There are questions about him obviously - I was just making a rough sketch of a comparison for team need.

Maybe a better comparison for him is Patrick Patterson of the Raptors. Both 6'9, athletic stretch-PF's with similar skill-sets. Depending on who's available, I wouldn't mind the Holmes pick at all, unless someone noticeably better falls to us. But I'd much rather him than a Euro-stash.

[DPG21920]

Maybe a better comparison for him is Patrick Patterson of the Raptors. Both 6'9, athletic stretch-PF's with similar skill-sets. Depending on who's available, I wouldn't mind the Holmes pick at all, unless someone noticeably better falls to us. But I'd much rather him than a Euro-stash.

If his offense develops like PP that would be great. Might be a good comparison. A higher energy, better on the glass version of PP.

[RD2191]

I don't care if the player the Spurs draft won't ever be an all star. They just need a young player who can make an impact this coming season.

[DPG21920]

I really do hope that if the Spurs move players they can move up in this draft. There seems to be some good talent to be had. For both the now and the future (like the Kawhi deal) I hope they can move up into the lottery. Especially if the plan is FA.

If they move Tiago, they better be closer to pick 15 than pick 26.

[TD 21]

They're not trading Splitter at the draft. He'll only be moved if it's to facilitate an Aldridge signing and obviously that can't happen before July 1st.

I could see them selecting Holmes. Other than the fact that he's not foreign, mixed or both, he strikes me as a Spur. Plus, they've long been after an athletic, face up PF's, that could guard bigger SF's (Gist, Haislip, Thomas, Brown, Jean-Charles, Green). He'd kill two birds with one stone and give them something of a Diaw replacement long term.

It also bodes well that he can probably play some next season, which is a need, particularly if they sign Aldridge, since it'll mean they'll need inexpensive contributors at the back end of the roster.

[DPG21920]

Holmes is not a playmaker, so I don't see him being Boris or Green. I can definitely see SA trading Tiago during the draft if they are committed to going the FA route.

It would require knowing Tim/Manu's plans and money and what they want to do.

[TD 21]

That's why I said "something of a Diaw replacement". Play making PF's are rare, so it's not going to be easy to replace that aspect of Diaw's game. Other than that though, he should be able to fill a similar role. In the interim, he'd almost certainly spell the end of Bonner's tenure, unless they signed Aldridge and traded Diaw instead of Splitter.

They're not going to trade Splitter for the sake of it; this is not a re-build. Trading him at the draft would be both unnecessary and beyond stupid because if they miss on Aldridge, they'll have created a massive hole, with no clear way of filling it.

[DPG21920]

I don't think it's likely that Tiago is traded in the draft, but I could see it for the right offer if FA is the way to go for them. Spurs aren't stupid though - they won't take a risk with much of a downside unless they are confident.

FA is likely not the way the Spurs go - they will likely do a S&T if they end up moving Tiago for Gasol/LMA.

[BatManu20]

Speaking of trading Splitter, found this random and likely unrealistic draft-night trade scenario:


First:
Wizards trade: Pick #19, Kris Humpries, Garrett Temple, 2018 & 2020 2nd round picks
for
Phoenix Suns: Archie Goodwin, TJ Warren, 2017 1st round pick (top 10 Protected), 2015 2nd round pick


From Wizards GM serdricacceus:


The Wizards need a little bit of youth and I'm assuming that Paul Pierce is leaving for LAC w/Doc. So I traded for a guy who can flat out score in Warren and an explosive rim player in Goodwin. Both of these guys still have room to grow as player but they can help grow the second unit as in the case for Goodwin, try to provide some relief for Beal as a backup.


Secondly:


Phoenix Suns trade: Pick #19, P.J. Tucker, Marcus Morris
for
San Antonio Spurs: Pick #26, Tiago Splitter


And with the 19th pick in the draft, GM ks10680 and the Spurs select:

19) Tyus Jones, PG from Duke

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/5eIcxPC4AOFSSIL9XTcJZLitBrw=/400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3801636/usa-today-8504658.0.0.jpg

From GM ks10680:
I've traded Splitter and my 25 pick for Marcus Morris and Pj Tucker and the 19 pick. The reason why I made the decision to trade Splitter and my 25 pick to move up in for the 19 pick was to pick a guy I feel that could easily replace Tony Parker in the future that guy is Tyus Jones. I feel very comfortable taking this guy in the draft because if there's one thing we the Spurs organization do best is win. As the Spurs gm, I saw what the freshman PG was all about in the National Championship so I had to move up and draft him. He's the guy I've been looking to replace Tony. Our future is looking bright and I can't wait to see what Jones can do in the NBA. I'm looking for Marcus Morris to be a valuable role player that could learn alot from Boris Diaw and P.J. Tucker to step in to possibly replace Marco Bellinelli if we can't re-sign him.

http://trove.com/a/2015-GBB-Community-Mock-Draft-Spurs-trade-into-Pick-%2319.lR6SR?utm_campaign=hosted&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=sns

[DPG21920]

ha-cha-cha-smh

[alfahdlan]

How about Cedi Osman? He is an interesting SF. Him and KL at the wings could be effective: as a pair or the former as a reliever. I somehow see some manusque qualities in him.

[BatManu20]

How about Cedi Osman? He is an interesting SF. Him and KL at the wings could be effective: as a pair or the former as a reliever. I somehow see some manusque qualities in him.

Cedi is a decent SF prospect, but he's certainly a draft-and-stash player. He's a project at this point who isn't ready to compete at the NBA level. He would need at least a couple years of development overseas. Don't forget we also have SF Deshaun Thomas playing overseas as well. He's an option, but I doubt the first one.