View Full Version : The Admiral's son Justin Robinson will play for Duke next season
SpurPadre
05-07-2015, 11:30 AM
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/son-of-former-nba-great-david-robinson-to-be-on-scholarship-at-duke-next-season/
Hope he pans out.
Budkin
05-07-2015, 12:33 PM
Future Spur?
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Because he earned it? Maybe Andrew Luck didn't deserve a scholarship at Stanford either because his dad was pretty well off.
And at good, wealthy schools like Duke, if you are qualified to get in you will not end up with loads of student debt. Same goes for the Ivies (who don't have athletic scholarships) - if your family makes under six figures, you have a good chance at ending up with a full ride.
Because Kansas will? Because you don't want to anoint him as the rich kid, because the ncaa doesn't like weirdness, because coach k treats his kids right
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Because it doesn't matter how much money a kid's parents make. He earned the scholarship.
Because it doesn't matter how much money a kid's parents make. He earned the scholarship.
Sure he did.
100%duncan
05-07-2015, 12:50 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
:lol
:lol
It's what Jesus wanted tbh
100%duncan
05-07-2015, 12:56 PM
It's what Jesus wanted tbh
i laughed at that post tbh
ILoveOranges
05-07-2015, 01:00 PM
Black kids with reasonably mediocre scores don't get rejected from college. There's homeboys don't be do dat English in pharmacy school with a 2.3 GPA.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 01:10 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Chances are that multimillionaire dad becomes interested in Duke for the first time, donates to it, and helps to create multiple scholarships down the road.
Why do you assume a black kid lost a scholarship? Maybe a Cherokee Parks, JJ Reddick, or Kyle Singler type of player lost out, and is now going to Santa Clara or Creighton instead.
Chances are that multimillionaire dad becomes interested in Duke for the first time, donates to it, and helps to create multiple scholarships down the road.
Why do you assume a black kid lost a scholarship? Maybe a Cherokee Parks, JJ Reddick, or Kyle Singler type of player lost out, and is now going to Santa Clara or Creighton instead.
So Dad's influence is what got Jr in.
Too bad Jamal from the heights doesn't know his dad, else he might have a shot. Probably not. Good job Dave.
Black kids with reasonably mediocre scores don't get rejected from college. There's homeboys don't be do dat English in pharmacy school with a 2.3 GPA.
I'm not talking about a rejection letter. I am talking about not being able to afford to go.
ILoveOranges
05-07-2015, 01:24 PM
Need-based scholarships are prioritized to Hispanics and Blacks, then everyone else second. They'll be fine.
The Reckoning
05-07-2015, 02:39 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
because sports should always be seen as the only way out.
baseline bum
05-07-2015, 03:15 PM
Because he earned it? Maybe Andrew Luck didn't deserve a scholarship at Stanford either because his dad was pretty well off.
And at good, wealthy schools like Duke, if you are qualified to get in you will not end up with loads of student debt. Same goes for the Ivies (who don't have athletic scholarships) - if your family makes under six figures, you have a good chance at ending up with a full ride.
I have always heard the opposite. That you have to really be somebody to get big scholarships from places like Harvard, Yale, MIT as an undergrad. Now in grad school you pay for your education by TA'ing and doing research at a place like that, but undergrad?
I have always heard the opposite. That you have to really be somebody to get big scholarships from places like Harvard, Yale, MIT as an undergrad. Now in grad school you pay for your education by TA'ing and doing research at a place like that, but undergrad?
There are no merit scholarships at Ivies. All need-based for undergrads.
You could be a Nobel Prize winner but if you can pay your own way, you will.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 04:31 PM
So Dad's influence is what got Jr in.
Too bad Jamal from the heights doesn't know his dad, else he might have a shot. Probably not. Good job Dave.
The truth is you don't really know the true situation... chances are Coach K thinks the kid will help him win games. You're just looking at it with an agenda.
The truth is you don't really know the true situation... chances are Coach K thinks the kid will help him win games. You're just looking at it with an agenda.
Chances are what you just said is homer bullshit. Chances are that David and coach K are friends, and coach K pulls strings pretty hard, and Jr couldn't get any notice from colleges other than Duke so Dave got him in. Chances are Dave couldn't do shit at the Naval Academy, something about being a cadet and all that, and acceptance and grades and a whole bunch of other shit.
Tyrone Jenkins
05-07-2015, 04:43 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
So, cars should be free for those who can't afford them but twice the price for the rich???
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 04:47 PM
Chances are what you just said is homer bullshit. Chances are that David and coach K are friends, and coach K pulls strings pretty hard, and Jr couldn't get any notice from colleges other than Duke so Dave got him in. Chances are Dave couldn't do shit at the Naval Academy, something about being a cadet and all that, and acceptance and grades and a whole bunch of other shit.
:lol Yeah, it's all a great conspiracy to screw one other person out of a scholarship. That totally sounds like Coach K and David Robinson, who are secretly in the same KKK club.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 04:52 PM
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
This is a ridiculous understanding of the situation. If a kid even had an outside chance at playing at Duke, then he's sure as hell not going to have a problem getting on with another Division 1 program. His future is hardly "lost."
Look at his stats. It's not like he was star player in HS but now he's with 5 other guys who are 5 star players. Any HS in the region has a player at least as good as him. They just don't have a pro baller's son.
http://archive.usab.com/photos/Robinson_Barcelona_400x300.jpg
This is a ridiculous understanding of the situation. If a kid even had an outside chance at playing at Duke, then he's sure as hell not going to have a problem getting on with another Division 1 program. His future is hardly "lost."
Yeah, fuck him. Let the kid of the rich baller have his choice and the poor kid go to Towson, home of choo choo.
maybe they think he has good bball genes
Could be, his dad grew like 6 inches at the Academy.
So, cars should be free for those who can't afford them but twice the price for the rich???
No, but if someone is giving one away, why choose the kid who can't drive just because his father is a race car driver?
because sports should always be seen as the only way out.
Obviously it is for David's kids.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 05:11 PM
Yeah, fuck him. Let the kid of the rich baller have his choice and the poor kid go to Towson, home of choo choo.
You're really good at sophistry. If he had a shot at Duke and didn't make it, chances are he'll have a full scholarship at UCLA, Ohio State, or Texas. Four years of free college, with room and board. I know, I know... that's horrible.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 05:17 PM
you're a faggot from a 3rd world country and get in the back of the line where you belong.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247987&page=2&p=7998333#post7998333
I guess Coach K and David Robinson just don't have the same level of human understanding and civility that you do. That's why they're out there stealing scholarships and ruining lives.
Mikeanaro
05-07-2015, 05:26 PM
:lmao
Btw, Kid cant be that bad.
You're really good at sophistry. If he had a shot at Duke and didn't make it, chances are he'll have a full scholarship at UCLA, Ohio State, or Texas. Four years of free college, with room and board. I know, I know... that's horrible.
Same for David's kid... oh wait, no he wouldn't because his shot at Duke had little to do with his basketball acumen.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247987&page=2&p=7998333#post7998333
I guess Coach K and David Robinson just don't have the same level of human understanding and civility that you do. That's why they're out there stealing scholarships and ruining lives.
Ad homs really get your point across. You're a douchebag just like David. Good talk.
Spursmania
05-07-2015, 05:36 PM
Because it doesn't matter how much money a kid's parents make. He earned the scholarship.
Yep
Let's put it differently where some of you mouthbreathers can understand:
1. White kid with wealthy white father gets a full ride at Duke, while his basketball stats were meh...
2. Black kid with better stats gets rejected from Duke..
3. Someone says "no problem, if he could get a look from Duke he'll be fine elsewhere.."
Hell, there's other water fountains, why do you want to drink from this one? Why do you want to sit in the font of the bus, what's wrong with the back seats? Why do you need to use the same bathroom? With those analogies it's clear where the injustice lies. Put your favorite person in there though and change "white" to "star athlete" and you're now defending it.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 06:50 PM
Same for David's kid... oh wait, no he wouldn't because his shot at Duke had little to do with his basketball acumen.
Nice try.
Your original argument was that a poor black kid was having his one shot at a good life taken away because he wouldn't be going to Duke, and thus his life was ruined.
It's silly argument, and you know it.
Nice try.
Your original argument was that a poor black kid was having his one shot at a good life taken away because he wouldn't be going to Duke, and thus his life was ruined.
It's silly argument, and you know it.
If he was trying to get a scholarship at Duke through basketball and some hanger on's kid was getting bumped up the line, that's going to cancel his chances at getting that scholarship. Sure he can go elsewhere, so can the black guy who cannot drink at the white fountain. How is that fair? So now you think it's ok for black kids to be denied a good education so that stars can have their kids fill the rosters on these teams?
some_user86
05-07-2015, 09:14 PM
If he was trying to get a scholarship at Duke through basketball and some hanger on's kid was getting bumped up the line, that's going to cancel his chances at getting that scholarship. Sure he can go elsewhere, so can the black guy who cannot drink at the white fountain. How is that fair? So now you think it's ok for black kids to be denied a good education so that stars can have their kids fill the rosters on these teams?
Dude, he joined the team as a preferred walk-on. When he started at Duke, he didn't have a scholarship. Preferred walk-ons are by definition those players who are given a chance to prove themselves to earn a scholarship. He apparently proved himself, and earned that scholarship. Here's what the article stated:
Back in mid-December it was reported that 6-foot-8 forward Justin Robinson, a two-year all-state selection in Texas and the son of San Antonio Spurs great David Robinson, would join the Duke basketball program as a preferred walk-on in 2015-16. Preferred walk-on positions give players the opportunity to join the program in hopes of eventually doing enough to earn a scholarship, and that was something Robinson was on board with.
Do you have a problem with this only because he's the child of a rich father? He apparently has the talent to prove himself as a preferred walk-on. Scholarship should be given on ability, not need. It shouldn't be a freaking hand-out for the poor.
Mr Bones
05-07-2015, 09:23 PM
If he was trying to get a scholarship at Duke through basketball and some hanger on's kid was getting bumped up the line, that's going to cancel his chances at getting that scholarship. Sure he can go elsewhere, so can the black guy who cannot drink at the white fountain. How is that fair? So now you think it's ok for black kids to be denied a good education so that stars can have their kids fill the rosters on these teams?
Ok, good, so you admit the original theory of the kid's life being "ruined" was just histrionics on your part. That's a start.
So now you're equating Coach K taking a chance on a kid with the DNA of NBA royalty with a a systematic policy of segregation? Sorry, that doesn't work. The kid in scenario #1 goes to a Division 1 college not named Duke on a free ride. He is not "denied an education." The thousands or millions of kids in scenario #2 are simply being denied basic rights. Pretty different scenarios.
pgardn
05-07-2015, 09:39 PM
The kid is a very good student. He is a better student than basketball player. I have seen him play. He is very long, a good 3 point shooter, and very weak. Some big changes are going to have to take place for him to ever see the court. Duke is so loaded with good players...
He could have made it in on academics alone most likely.
Godbama
05-07-2015, 09:43 PM
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ILoveOranges
05-07-2015, 10:05 PM
Dude, he joined the team as a preferred walk-on. When he started at Duke, he didn't have a scholarship. Preferred walk-ons are by definition those players who are given a chance to prove themselves to earn a scholarship. He apparently proved himself, and earned that scholarship. Here's what the article stated:
Do you have a problem with this only because he's the child of a rich father? He apparently has the talent to prove himself as a preferred walk-on. Scholarship should be given on ability, not need. It shouldn't be a freaking hand-out for the poor.
He's upset because only poor black kids deserve scholarships. Pretty specifically. For basketball only, screw that academic nonsense.
daslicer
05-07-2015, 10:11 PM
One thing I have noticed about DMC is he tries very hard to be a contrarian even when its for pointless stuff.
Obstructed_View
05-07-2015, 10:13 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Grant Hill called and said you're a dumb fuck.
BatManu20
05-07-2015, 10:42 PM
Say what you want, but having 2 kids playing Div. I sports, one as a football player at Notre Dame, and another as a hooper at Duke, is pretty cool, especially for Dave. He's gotta be a proud papa tbh.
spurraider21
05-07-2015, 10:50 PM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
if he was denied the money didnt matter anyway
SpurPadre
05-07-2015, 11:13 PM
Speaking from a basketball standpoint only, I have to believe he'll at least be better than Ayres and Bonner. What should his nickname be? The Little General 2.0? The Lieutenant?
Dude, he joined the team as a preferred walk-on. When he started at Duke, he didn't have a scholarship. Preferred walk-ons are by definition those players who are given a chance to prove themselves to earn a scholarship. He apparently proved himself, and earned that scholarship.
Sure he did.
Do you have a problem with this only because he's the child of a rich father? He apparently has the talent to prove himself as a preferred walk-on. Scholarship should be given on ability, not need. It shouldn't be a freaking hand-out for the poor.
Sure he does. His HS record is amazing. Tori Spelling apparently had the talent to prove herself as an actress, hell she was on 90120 for how long? Autism Rivers apparently had the talent to prove himself as a starting PG, else he wouldn't be starting for the Clippers in the playoffs.
Ok, good, so you admit the original theory of the kid's life being "ruined" was just histrionics on your part. That's a start.
Not at all. Think of Rudy at ND. Would he have accepted playing football at Wayland Baptist?
So now you're equating Coach K taking a chance on a kid with the DNA of NBA royalty with a a systematic policy of segregation? Sorry, that doesn't work. The kid in scenario #1 goes to a Division 1 college not named Duke on a free ride. He is not "denied an education." The thousands or millions of kids in scenario #2 are simply being denied basic rights. Pretty different scenarios.
Elitist preferential treatment that always, always... always means someone else who deserved to be there got dismissed.
The kid is a very good student. He is a better student than basketball player. I have seen him play. He is very long, a good 3 point shooter, and very weak. Some big changes are going to have to take place for him to ever see the court. Duke is so loaded with good players...
He could have made it in on academics alone most likely.
But he didn't.
if he was denied the money didnt matter anyway
If he was a walk on and was trying for a scholarship, and didn't get one because Robinson was gifted that spot, then yes, he was denied and yes the money mattered anyway. It didn't matter to Robinson though. Just doing God's work per par.
Grant Hill called and said you're a dumb fuck.
Bullshit. Grant Hill wouldn't call you unless he wanted to order a pizza.
One thing I have noticed about DMC is he tries very hard to be a contrarian even when its for pointless stuff.
Hush up, you.
Speaking from a basketball standpoint only, I have to believe he'll at least be better than Ayres and Bonner. What should his nickname be? The Little General 2.0? The Lieutenant?
Just in, Robbing son... that fits.
SpurPadre
05-07-2015, 11:32 PM
Just in, Robbing son... that fits.
:lol This really bugs you, doesn't it? You make a good point, but I can't hate on Da Admiral. He's the main reason why I became a Spurs fan in the first place.
:lol This really bugs you, doesn't it? You make a good point, but I can't hate on Da Admiral. He's the main reason why I became a Spurs fan in the first place.
Not really. I couldn't care less either way. I just wanted to fuck with the homers a bit.
BillMc
05-07-2015, 11:45 PM
Say what you want, but having 2 kids playing Div. I sports, one as a football player at Notre Dame, and another as a hooper at Duke, is pretty cool, especially for Dave. He's gotta be a proud papa tbh.
This.
Mr Bones
05-08-2015, 01:08 AM
[QUOTE=DMC;7999019]Not really. I couldn't care less either way. I just wanted to fuck with the homers a bit.[/QUOTE
The Irony is that you're the homer. Mr. Histrionic Overreaction Agenda Homer.
buttsR4rebounding
05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
Why? Why give a scholarship to a guy who's dad is multimillionaire? There are kids out there who cannot afford to go to college, but David's son gets a free ride because, well...he's David's son.
Some black kid received a letter of denial and basically lost his future because of this. Congrats.
Spoken like someone who thinks life owes them something. If a wealthy person earns an opportunity over a poorer person that is the breaks. As long as opportunity is available to both. I have no doubt Coach K is giving him the spot because he is the best player. Are we supposed to be using affirmative action for College Basketball scholarships? And to say that the poor kid can't afford to go to college because he doesn't get a scholarship is fantasy. There are so many programs for poor students to go to college that if that is what stops him then he really doesn't want to put forth the necessary effort to do so. Take 2 "real world" pills and call me in the morning.
Spoken like someone who thinks life owes them something. If a wealthy person earns an opportunity over a poorer person that is the breaks. As long as opportunity is available to both. I have no doubt Coach K is giving him the spot because he is the best player. Are we supposed to be using affirmative action for College Basketball scholarships? And to say that the poor kid can't afford to go to college because he doesn't get a scholarship is fantasy. There are so many programs for poor students to go to college that if that is what stops him then he really doesn't want to put forth the necessary effort to do so. Take 2 "real world" pills and call me in the morning.
Yeah no doubt. Elitism and "old boy" networking doesn't really exist. If you apply all the things you say about the poor black kid to the rich kid, they also apply, except dad can afford those more easily.
The argument here is because it's David Robinson. If it was Michael Jordan, it would be a different tune being sang here.
pgardn
05-08-2015, 09:45 AM
Not at all. Think of Rudy at ND. Would he have accepted playing football at Wayland Baptist?
Elitist preferential treatment that always, always... always means someone else who deserved to be there got dismissed.
Some kids are NOT recruited for only the talent they are, but the talent they might become. We know David's growth spurt and strength occurred very late. And of course it's somewhat of a "look who we got" by Duke.
This particular son is a special kid, a very good egg. If he can hang, gets some muscle, he will be a great guy to have on the team despite what happens on the court, simply because he is a great kid. These types can be crucial to a functioning team, especially as older players.
His older kid is much more of an athlete and less of student (which still could mean he is a very good student)
The hypothetical kid that did not get a scholarship to Duke will find another school. The cream will rise.
I don't really like K but this might be a really good move from a recruiting standpoint. Some of the really bright players that go IVY or Stanford and are very easy to coach... they are attracted to Duke. More than just the one and done types. It could lead to more consistency.
Bottom line is that there are a lot of coaches take lesser players out of HS because they see upside, and, because they could also be binders for the team as a whole. It's very tough for kids to play with other kids they don't like. Coaches get this.
Solid D
05-08-2015, 10:53 AM
Regardless of whether or not Justin ends up getting big minutes at Duke, the kid apparently deserved his acceptance into Duke (9.4% acceptance rate). He ranked in the top 3 percent of National PSAT scores. He walked on at Duke while being ranked 72 for 2015 for Texas HS boys basketball (TexasHoops.com)...so why the hate? He seems to be a bright, determined and talented kid who grew 5 inches in 2 years and seems to be still growing. Maybe he's worthy of a shot at the last scholarship.
TampaDude
05-08-2015, 01:09 PM
Yeah no doubt. Elitism and "old boy" networking doesn't really exist. If you apply all the things you say about the poor black kid to the rich kid, they also apply, except dad can afford those more easily.
The argument here is because it's David Robinson. If it was Michael Jordan, it would be a different tune being sang here.
Damn, bro...it's Duke, not David Duke...chill...
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