Where does Kawhi rank as an all-time Spur?

[ambchang]

We know the Spurs top three is:
1) Duncan - Top 5 NBA player of all time
2) Robinson - Top 10 to 20 player of all time
3) Gervin - Top 30 player of all time

But who comes next?

Ginobili, for those who have seen him in his prime, and appreciate all the subtleties he brings to the game, would surely put him high up there.
Elliott, an under-appreciated small forward who had a lightening quick first step, developed a decent outside shot, and was a very good defensive player in his prime
Alvin Robertson - Defensive player of the year, only wing player to ever register a quadruple double, but his off-court issues definitely put a damper on things. I always thought that he was overrated though, his defense was a lot of gambling
Artis Gilmore - one of the strongest post player of all time. Too bad he spent most of his prime in the ABA
Larry Kenon - Extraordinary rebounder and defender. He was ahead of his time, and would fit in today's game perfectly (if he developed more range). Great passer as well
Tony Parker - for all the hate he gets, he had a few absolutely phenomenal seasons
Johnny Moore - The first in a long line of Spurs PG who can't really shoot. But boy can he pass and run the point.

Then there's Kawhi. Young, exception defensive player (most of the time), he still struggles with double teams, and can improve his ball-handling, but he has a good outside shot, can drive to the rim, has good athleticism, can create his own shot. He already won a FMVP, which puts him as the second Spur to ever win one, and he's still very young with lots of room to grow.

At this point, I'd put him behind Manu and Kenon, but eventually, I think he has the ability to surpass both of them, and even an outside shot of going past Gervin.

Another question, how does the Spurs best players compare to some of the other storied franchises like the Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Pistons, Chicago and Blazers?

[AlexJones]

:lol does anyone have footage of Gervin doing crossovers:?

[TDMVPDPOY]

I got him 3rd....behind duncan, drob

[ambchang]

The iceman being underrated here.

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Up and under, bank shots, left hand, right hand, scoop shots, outside shots, going left, going right, floaters, reverses, and of course, the finger roll.

Gervin can do it all on offense. He was like a mix of Drexler and Reggie Miller.

[TDMVPDPOY]

ice didnt deliver a ring

kawhi revitalize the shit stain that is enrique regime to a wcf/finals/championship...

[ambchang]

ice didnt deliver a ring

kawhi revitalize the shit stain that is enrique regime to a wcf/finals/championship...

Ice never had Duncan playing next to him and Pop to coach him either.

Not to mention he played in a league that would decimate other teams' rosters to ensure a Lakers finals appearance every year (granted, Kawhi played in a league where the Lakers shoot 20+ FTs in the 4th quarter of elimination games three times in a decade, but at least Kawhi get to keep his teammates).

[100%duncan]

Duncan
Drob/Manu
Drob/Manu
Kawhi
Gervin
Parker

when all is said and done imho

[Kool Bob Love]

Not even in the top 10. That fucking choking fuck.

cant hit one freethrow
cant guard Matt Barnes

td
parker
manu
drob
iceman
bowen
moore
silas
avery
sean

[Franklin]

Dude won you the 14' ring though, without him you're light one. Just like I said many years ago, dude's just a glorified Josh Howard. He can be a perfect #2 or #3 on a championship contending team or the #1 of an average to scrub team, tbh.

[unleashbaynes]

Not even in the top 10. That fucking choking fuck.

cant hit one freethrow
cant guard Matt Barnes

td
parker
manu
drob
iceman
bowen
moore
silas
avery
sean

I legitimately hope you die.

[Thread]

Just so we don't forget, + so we always remember:::Spur Fan treated David Robinson like shit, human debris. Made fun of him, booed him mercilessly, sicked Media on 'em & vice versa. Called him everything but a black man.

You're not going to rewrite history here.

Absolutely not.

- Dale

[ambchang]

Just so we don't forget, + so we always remember:::Spur Fan treated David Robinson like shit, human debris. Made fun of him, booed him mercilessly, sicked Media on 'em & vice versa. Called him everything but a black man.

You're not going to rewrite history here.

Absolutely not.

- Dale

Bullshit dale. Spurs always loved Robinson. Loved him.

It was the media who treated him like crap, and San Antonio doesn't have much of a media.

[Kool Bob Love]

I legitimately hope you die.

Ain't nothing promised but a graveyard.

[Kool Bob Love]

Just so we don't forget, + so we always remember:::Spur Fan treated David Robinson like shit, human debris. Made fun of him, booed him mercilessly, sicked Media on 'em & vice versa. Called him everything but a black man.

You're not going to rewrite history here.

Absolutely not.

- Dale

Fans never booed wtf. Shut the fuck up.

[Thread]

Bullshit dale. Spurs always loved Robinson. Loved him.

It was the media who treated him like crap, and San Antonio doesn't have much of a media.

No way. Yes, Media led you to it, but, you took to it like sugar to warm iced tea, treated him like total shit. It was a gd cottage industry and SF stocked the employment roles.

[Thread]

Fans never booed wtf. Shut the fuck up.

BS, motherfucker. It was a disgrace and it happened. You booed David Robinson, & it was merciless booing.

Shame, shame on you!!!

[ambchang]

No way. Yes, Media led you to it, but, you took to it like sugar to warm iced tea, treated him like total shit. It was a gd cottage industry and SF stocked the employment roles.

Makes no sense. Why would Robinson give back so much to the San Antonio community if he wasn't treated well.

He's one of the most respected person in the community.

Cite it Dale, cite it.

[Thread]

Makes no sense. Why would Robinson give back so much to the San Antonio community if he wasn't treated well.

He's one of the most respected person in the community.

Cite it Dale, cite it.

Duncan arrived via your tank and straightened it all out. That time of upheaval and shame is now forgotten, buried in the annals of time. I took a spade (Splits) turned him over and dug that fucker up.

Like draggin' the Nazi's to the ovens after the liberation. That's what I've done here. You're the Nazi, I'm Simon Weisenthal. Call me kike.

[ambchang]

Duncan arrived via your tank and straightened it all out. That time of upheaval and shame is now forgotten, buried in the annals of time. I took a spade (Splits) turned him over and dug that fucker up.

Like draggin' the Nazi's to the ovens after the liberation. That's what I've done here. You're the Nazi, I'm Simon Weisenthal. Call me kike.

Again, cite it. Show me some proof. When and where and exactly how was Robinson treated poorly by San Antonio?

[MI21]

:lol Anyone putting Manu on DRob's level.

[Thread]

:lol Anyone putting Manu on DRob's level.

Would that be DRob level before OR after the arrival and affect of Duncan? Big difference. (before) would take an order of excavation to get to it. You fuckers treated David Robinson like a second class citizen. Called him weak, mermaid, loser, a Tom, soft and incapable.

[ambchang]

Would that be DRob level before OR after the arrival and affect of Duncan? Big difference. (before) would take an order of excavation to get to it. You fuckers treated David Robinson like a second class citizen. Called him weak, mermaid, loser, a Tom, soft and incapable.


Again, cite it. Show me some proof. When and where and exactly how was Robinson treated poorly by San Antonio?

[Thread]

^You crawl, motherfucker. Set that belly on the cement and fuckin' crawl!!!

[ambchang]

^You crawl, motherfucker. Set that belly on the cement and fuckin' crawl!!!

You are the one crawling, bub.

[Thread]

You are the one crawling, bub.

Horseshit. You copied my thread shit.

I gotcha. And I gotcha good.

[ambchang]

Horseshit. You copied my thread shit.

I gotcha. And I gotcha good.

It is call making fun of you. Get with the program.

Not to mention you got hit so bad you didn't even have the guts to respond and had to open up a new thread about something everybody knew about ....

[Bynumite]

I would rank Kiwi somewhere between the dude that wipes the sweat off the floor and the dude that hands Jim his cum flavored gatorade.

[Kool Bob Love]

BS, motherfucker. It was a disgrace and it happened. You booed David Robinson, & it was merciless booing.

Shame, shame on you!!!

prove it motherfucker.


http://youtu.be/5ZP4As4uBV0

[FkLA]

TD
DRob
Manu
Ice
Kawhi

He'll probably end up third though.

[Phillip]

Hilarious how much spurfans forget how great Robinson and Gervin truly were.

:lmao kawhi

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Tim
Manu
David
Parker
Gervin
Sean
Silas
Mitchell
Moore
Kawhi

[Thread]

prove it motherfucker.


http://youtu.be/5ZP4As4uBV0

I remember it distinctly. Robinson was set upon a petard and ridiculed until Duncan showed up and straightened it all out.

Your regrets are your own, Lovey.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not even in the top 10. That fucking choking fuck.

cant hit one freethrow
cant guard Matt Barnes

td
parker
manu
drob
iceman
bowen
moore
silas
avery
sean

[apalisoc_9]

behind TD, Manu, Drob
Questionable Gervin, Parker....

he's 23 though and is on pace to become the third best spur of all time. Possibly 2nd behind tim.

[apalisoc_9]

Tim
Manu
David
Parker
Gervin
Sean
Silas
Mitchell
Moore
Kawhi

:lmao

Sean Eliott " 23 year old Kawhi is better than I ever was"..

Mainstream vanilla fans...

:lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

Sean


http://youtu.be/9FDboZTyeuA

Kawhi


http://youtu.be/04gpe3nwydM

[Kool Bob Love]

I remember it distinctly. Robinson was set upon a petard and ridiculed until Duncan showed up and straightened it all out.

Your regrets are your own, Lovey.

Your fucking lying and I know it.

[Mitch]

Your fucking lying and I know it.

I guess you're not happy Leonard wants every penny he possibly can get, eh kbl?

[Kool Bob Love]

I guess you're not happy Leonard wants every penny he possibly can get, eh kbl?

he won't be getting a max in SA.

[Mitch]

he won't be getting a max in SA.

Why do you say that, Kbl? A lot of teams will offer max and the Spurs will be in a rut without Leonard.

[Thread]

he won't be getting a max in SA.

Try it, smart ass. Your people ain't got the balls.

[Thread]

Your fucking lying and I know it.

Yeah, you fuckers want to forget the past. Uh, uh, not as long as old Dale is about.

Let us proceed...

[Infinite_limit]

Below Bruce Bowen

[Kool Bob Love]

Why do you say that, Kbl? A lot of teams will offer max and the Spurs will be in a rut without Leonard.

Spurs aren't gonna offer him one, they'll stick to thier guns.

[Kool Bob Love]

Try it, smart ass. Your people ain't got the balls.

He'll accept less or theyll ship his ass out to rot in Portland.

[spurraider21]

Duncan - Robinson - Gervin are the top 3 and it's really difficult to have it any other way. those are the 3 guys who have shouldered the franchise in their respective eras

kawhi might be next to be in that category

[Bynumite]

Hilarious how much spurfans forget how great Robinson and Gervin truly were.

:lmao kawhi

They like to label others as bandwagon fans but most of them started following the spurs post their 1st ring.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Duncan - Robinson - Gervin are the top 3 and it's really difficult to have it any other way. those are the 3 guys who have shouldered the franchise in their respective eras

kawhi might be next to be in that category

without kawhi, ur less 1, let alone sniff revive the careers of the big3

enrique led team has always been first round exit

[Kool Bob Love]

without kawhi, ur less 1, let alone sniff revive the careers of the big3

enrique led team has always been first round exit

give some fucking credit to Tim Duncan you Clown fuck.

[Thread]

give some fucking credit to Tim Duncan you Clown fuck.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

[elmanutres]

way to early to be seeing where to place him in the spurs all time list. It's better to see when he's past the halfway mark of his career. doesn't even crack the top 5. But he already has a finals mvp and a dpoy so he's in my top 10 automatically

But when it's all said and done, i don't think he will crack duncan robinson and gervin. I don't think he'll be that good.

[spurraider21]

without kawhi, ur less 1, let alone sniff revive the careers of the big3

enrique led team has always been first round exit
i didnt say shit about tony but as usual you bring him into everything.

[Franklin]

Kawhi still has a lot to do and to prove imho, but my prediction is that he's already paying close to his full potential and will turn out to be just a glorified Josh Howard.