Tony Allen = 90s and early 2000s ball..

[Malik Hairston]

There isn't a player in the NBA that symbolizes the 90s/early 2000s era of basketball better than Tony Allen, tbh:lmao..

Goon that is permitted to hand check and play physically, which is considered "great defense"..plays hard and physical, which fans love..can't shoot, kills spacing, the opposing team doesn't have to guard him..completely exposed by the Warriors, another great team relying on pace/space and analytics, the new, dominant NBA champion..

[midnightpulp]

Hollinger probably wants him off the roster post-haste.

[AlexJones]

:lmao
lefty get in here

[Malik Hairston]

:lmao
lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) get in here

:lol my nigga Lefty praying that Morey's team doesn't make it to the WCFs, tbh..

[AlexJones]

:lol Warriors/Rockets, Atlanta/Clevleand. 3 teams that rely on analytics are our final 4. :lol King Emmanuel premature ejaculation thinking the 90's styled Wiz, Grizz and Bulls were gonna get it done

[midnightpulp]

:lol my nigga Lefty praying that Morey's team doesn't make it to the WCFs, tbh..

As analytics further progresses, it'll illustrate that the 3 point shot isn't really as efficient as it is in a vacuum, because of the pressure it puts on your defense and offensive rebounding (the worst missed shot in basketball is a missed 3 point jumper, since it triggers a more effective fast break than missed layups, etc).

[Clipper Nation]

As analytics further progresses, it'll illustrate that the 3 point shot isn't really as efficient as it is in a vacuum, because of the pressure it puts on your defense and offensive rebounding (the worst missed shot in basketball is a missed 3 point jumper, since it triggers a more effective fast break than missed layups, etc).

Still, :lol '90s shitball

[100%duncan]

And Spursfan shit on DG. Stupid fucks.

[Infinite_limit]

Inability to make jump shots = Current NBA

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^

[hitmanyr2k]

Fluke 3 point chucker ball is why the Spurs are sitting home right now. When they couldn't hit threes what did they have to fall back on? Tony Parker dribbling around like a chicken with its head cut off clanking jumpers. Analytics :lol

[AlexJones]

Fluke 3 point chucker ball is why the Spurs are sitting home right now. When they couldn't hit threes what did they have to fall back on? Tony Parker dribbling around like a chicken with its head cut off clanking jumpers. Analytics :lol

:lol you stupid motherfucker. They won the title last year despite using the fluke 3 point chucker ball formula.

[hitmanyr2k]

:lol you stupid motherfucker. They won the title last year despite using the fluke 3 point chucker ball formula.

And this year? Where did the three point shot get them? First round exit dummy.

[AlexJones]

And this year? Where did the three point shot get them? First round exit dummy.

:lol This year? They happened to lose to a team that is better at 3-point shooting. Oh...

[hitmanyr2k]

:lol This year? They happened to lose to a team that is better at 3-point shooting. Oh...

The Clippers sucked ass from 3 point range for the majority of that series :lol The Spurs just had nothing to fall back on when they couldn't replicate their shooting from the year before.

[AlexJones]

The Clippers sucked ass from 3 point range for the majority of that series :lol

The Spurs 3pt% in the first round against the Mavs wasn't good either, still took the series and then the NBA title with ease.

[Malik Hairston]

:lol Spurs lost due to poor coaching(not benching the shitty PG), their best defensive big's inability to move and mileage..it happens, they just won the title just 11 months ago..

Nostalgia is very powerful, tbh..realistically, Draymond Green is essentially Dennis Rodman with a 3-point shot, but nobody wants to admit it:lol..

[Malik Hairston]

Inability to make jump shots = Current NBA

:lol that's the route you're going to take? You're going to compare jump shooting?:lmao..good luck with that one with the 3-point shooting of those eras..:lmao Dad Killer and Pippen shooting 3s:lmao..

:lmao Pero Antic would beat DK and Pippen in a 3-point contest, tbh:lmao..

[DMC]

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/tony-allen.jpg

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Bendys%20Page/bend-oscar.JPG

[lefty]

Tony Allen is shit because he is a 2015 NBA player


:lol Today's NBA
:lol Malik Hairston'S weak trolling
:lol Allen wouldn't have cracked NBA roster in the 90s

[Franklin]

They Spurs ain't a team relying on 3 pointers imho, but they don't really have many better options it seems like. They no longer have the dominance in the paint with TOSB Duncan being their best big, and their rest bigs being totally dipshits, and they don't even have the right slashers to diversify their offensive options. They Spurs' talent level definitely belongs in the lower half of the west imho, and they'd have been a lottery team for years now but for Pop's genius coaching. I don't get why there're people blaming the coach tbh.

[AlexJones]

From Ethan Strauss of ESPN.com


It began on the plane before Game 3, when assistant coach and all-around defensive guru Ron Adams suggested something bizarre. What if Andrew Bogut (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2747/andrew-bogut) guarded Tony Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2367/tony-allen) as though Allen were a non-shooting center? The airborne coaching staff murmured that such a move could really confound Memphis, and they filed the idea away. There was a process between invention and implementation, though. The Warriors had to lose Game 3, had to get desperate enough to try the weird tactic.

"We told the guys, 'We're going to do this the first three possessions of the game, and we'll see how it goes,'” Kerr said of his directions before Game 4.
As much sense as the gambit made, there was some internal anxiety over how it would all play out.

Allen hit his first shot. Then he missed a 3-pointer. And another. And another. Before seven minutes had passed, Allen was yanked from a game in which he’d go on to play only 16 minutes. Allen, struggling with a hamstring injury, went on to see only five more minutes of the series. Although Allen was certainly hurt, Golden State’s move made him essentially unplayable (multiple Warriors conceded as much after Game 4). This was a massive strategic concession by the Grizzlies, considering how Allen had been dominating defensively. He might have been the best player in the series to that point, and he was taken off the chessboard with one move.


:lol 90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series. You can legitimately argue that only DK, Reggie, maybe Drexler can survive in today's NBA.

[hitmanyr2k]

From Ethan Strauss of ESPN.com


It began on the plane before Game 3, when assistant coach and all-around defensive guru Ron Adams suggested something bizarre. What if Andrew Bogut (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2747/andrew-bogut) guarded Tony Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2367/tony-allen) as though Allen were a non-shooting center? The airborne coaching staff murmured that such a move could really confound Memphis, and they filed the idea away. There was a process between invention and implementation, though. The Warriors had to lose Game 3, had to get desperate enough to try the weird tactic.

"We told the guys, 'We're going to do this the first three possessions of the game, and we'll see how it goes,'” Kerr said of his directions before Game 4.
As much sense as the gambit made, there was some internal anxiety over how it would all play out.

Allen hit his first shot. Then he missed a 3-pointer. And another. And another. Before seven minutes had passed, Allen was yanked from a game in which he’d go on to play only 16 minutes. Allen, struggling with a hamstring injury, went on to see only five more minutes of the series. Although Allen was certainly hurt, Golden State’s move made him essentially unplayable (multiple Warriors conceded as much after Game 4). This was a massive strategic concession by the Grizzlies, considering how Allen had been dominating defensively. He might have been the best player in the series to that point, and he was taken off the chessboard with one move.


:lol 90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series. You can legitimately argue that only DK, Reggie, maybe Drexler can survive in today's NBA.

Are you too stupid to realize you're pointing out what's wrong with this era? Tony Allen is a 10 year vet that has no redeeming qualities or skills...can't dribble, can't rebound, can't assist. He's what today's era is all about.

[AlexJones]

Are you too stupid to realize you're pointing out what's wrong with this era? Tony Allen is a 10 year vet that has no redeeming qualities or skills...can't dribble, can't rebound, can't assist. He's what today's era is all about.

You can't be this retarded :lmao Tony Allen represents a minority in today's NBA and an overwhelming majority in the 90's. Jesus

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From Ethan Strauss of ESPN.com


It began on the plane before Game 3, when assistant coach and all-around defensive guru Ron Adams suggested something bizarre. What if Andrew Bogut (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2747/andrew-bogut) guarded Tony Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2367/tony-allen) as though Allen were a non-shooting center?

Pop, head coach and all-around horse's ass had a similar epiphany:::What if I insist on playing the Clippers?

[hitmanyr2k]

You can't be this retarded :lmao Tony Allen represents a minority in today's NBA and an overwhelming majority in the 90's. Jesus

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.

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No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.

I've seen better here, but, I'll be damned if I can cite it.

hit

[AlexJones]

I'm out

[Spur-Addict]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.

Annnnnnnd a nuclear weapon has just exploded on this thread.

[lefty]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.
Damn


:lmao Malik Hairston and AlexJones got ethered

[Clipper Nation]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.
:lmao If only they had the work ethic of Derrick Coleman or Jim McIlvaine, then they'd really deserve big money. And it's a good thing Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury never chucked like today's players!

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao If only they had the work ethic of Derrick Coleman or Jim McIlvaine, then they'd really deserve big money. And it's a good thing Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury never chucked like today's players!

:lol

[DAF86]

Fluke 3 point chucker ball is why the Spurs are sitting home right now. When they couldn't hit threes what did they have to fall back on? Tony Parker dribbling around like a chicken with its head cut off clanking jumpers. Analytics :lol

Are you really bringing the Spurs up? The team that got deep into the playoffs the previous 3 seasons. There's nothing flukey about that.

The only reason they lost in the first round this year is because they faced a fellow top 3 team in the league. Spurs would have loved to get the chance top sweep the Bulls but unfortunately they play in the Western conference.

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The only reason they lost in the first round this yeart is because they faced a fellow top 3 team in the league.

That's Pop's fault. He chose the Clippers.

[Infinite_limit]

Kyle Korver and Redick are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game

[daslicer]

Kyle Korver and Redick are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game

Korver and Reddick are not even as talented as Hornacek. If Horancek played in this era he would be a perennial all-star player.

[spurraider21]

There isn't a player in the NBA that symbolizes the 90s/early 2000s era of basketball better than Tony Allen, tbh:lmao..

Goon that is permitted to hand check and play physically, which is considered "great defense"..plays hard and physical, which fans love..can't shoot, kills spacing, the opposing team doesn't have to guard him..completely exposed by the Warriors, another great team relying on pace/space and analytics, the new, dominant NBA champion..


:lol 90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series.
wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

[lefty]

Kyle Korver and Redick are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game
Excellent post tbh

[~O~]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era :lol Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob :lol Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money :lol :lol :lol This era is weaksauce.

This.....

[Clipper Nation]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing
Philo butthurt as usual.

[AlexJones]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

Would it please your vagina if I added, "like the OP said"? Funny how you deleted the ESPN article out of my quote as if I wasn't reiterating the OP's point in the first place by providing the article.

[DMC]

From Ethan Strauss of ESPN.com


It began on the plane before Game 3, when assistant coach and all-around defensive guru Ron Adams suggested something bizarre. What if Andrew Bogut (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2747/andrew-bogut) guarded Tony Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2367/tony-allen) as though Allen were a non-shooting center? The airborne coaching staff murmured that such a move could really confound Memphis, and they filed the idea away. There was a process between invention and implementation, though. The Warriors had to lose Game 3, had to get desperate enough to try the weird tactic.

"We told the guys, 'We're going to do this the first three possessions of the game, and we'll see how it goes,'” Kerr said of his directions before Game 4.
As much sense as the gambit made, there was some internal anxiety over how it would all play out.

Allen hit his first shot. Then he missed a 3-pointer. And another. And another. Before seven minutes had passed, Allen was yanked from a game in which he’d go on to play only 16 minutes. Allen, struggling with a hamstring injury, went on to see only five more minutes of the series. Although Allen was certainly hurt, Golden State’s move made him essentially unplayable (multiple Warriors conceded as much after Game 4). This was a massive strategic concession by the Grizzlies, considering how Allen had been dominating defensively. He might have been the best player in the series to that point, and he was taken off the chessboard with one move.


:lol 90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series. You can legitimately argue that only DK, Reggie, maybe Drexler can survive in today's NBA.

Why is it that every motherfucker in the NBA who's being a liability on offense has an undisclosed injury? Is the NBA so desperate to maintain the face of their product that they have disclaimers for every fuck up?

[DMC]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing
You are becoming the NBA forum's version of Chump Dumper, just a passive aggressive post grader.

Did you think your response added to the discussion?

[spurraider21]

You are becoming the NBA forum's version of Chump Dumper, just a passive aggressive post grader.

Did you think your response added to the discussion?
No less than yours