Bleacher Report has Spurs a serious contender for Brook Lopez

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

At work on BR.. And I think would be a much more realistic signing for SA next year. Brook is very gifted offensively, okay defensively.. But injuries are a concern. If we strike out with LMA/Gasol not a bad pick at all.. Some even consider him a top 5 center.. Although I think the 4 is his natural position

[doobs]

Good player. His game reminds me of Duncan, but shittier. He'd probably fit our system okay.

[Poolboy5623]

As long as it's not robin.

[dabom]

As long as it's not robin.

[Chinook]

He was my original guy on the pick-three thread. I think he, Splitter and Diaw would be a fine three-big rotation.

[davi78239]

Ah....another "Rasho" type of summer. We out in round one again next year. Meanwhile, Dallas will land D Jordan and the Clippers will land Aldridge. People will be intrigued to go to the Rockets, golden state, pelicans too. We're screwed...

[Malik Hairston]

Ugh, please no to Lopez or Greg Monroe, it's 2015..

[CGD]

I got laughed at, but I think he'd be a great pick up assuming he opts out. The draft pick poor Nets would probably also love our pick if the Spurs pursue the trade route.

[Ditty]

Stopped reading after I saw Bleacher Report...

[baseline bum]

How could anyone want Brooke Lopez? He makes Splitter look like Game 6 Isiah when it comes to dealing with injuries. I'd much prefer his brother.

[spurraider21]

i still like brook lopez a ton... but his injury history is pretty terrifying

[TheGreatYacht]

How could anyone want Brooke Lopez? He makes Splitter look like Game 6 Isiah when it comes to dealing with injuries. I'd much prefer his brother.
Lopez actually has real injuries

[timtonymanu]

Hell no. Give me RoLo over him.

[SpurPadre]

I prefer Sideshow Bob but only as a bench player to replace that Ginger piece of shit, tbh.

[Chinook]

How could anyone want Brooke Lopez? He makes Splitter look like Game 6 Isiah when it comes to dealing with injuries. I'd much prefer his brother.


i still like brook lopez a ton... but his injury history is pretty terrifying

You make it sound like he's Pek or something. I'm not saying he's going to play 82 games every season. But if he's willing to sign on without cost the Spurs some of their players, then it has to be considered in comparison to what Aldridge would cost.

[Dverde]

Two twin brothers! Agent needs to call the Suns for a price match!

[baseline bum]

You make it sound like he's Pek or something. I'm not saying he's going to play 82 games every season. But if he's willing to sign on without cost the Spurs some of their players, then it has to be considered in comparison to what Aldridge would cost.

He's soft, he doesn't rebound, he's always injured, he's got a Jones fracture. How many more red flags could this guy have?

[Chinook]

He's soft, he doesn't rebound, he's always injured, he's got a Jones fracture. How many more red flags could this guy have?

Eh, still is a great offensive big who can block shots when he's allowed to play in a phonebooth. He fits on the team just as well as Aldridge does, save for the fact that the Spurs don't have to search for another center to complete their rotation.

[baseline bum]

Eh, still is a great offensive big who can block shots when he's allowed to play in a phonebooth. He fits on the team just as well as Aldridge does, save for the fact that the Spurs don't have to search for another center to complete their rotation.

Did you not see the words "Jones fracture"? He's broken, throwing any kind of longterm contract at him would be insane. It would be way worse than the anchor Charles Smith was on the Spurs cap in the late 90s.

[Chinook]

Did you not see the words "Jones fracture"? He's broken, throwing any kind of longterm contract at him would be insane. It would be way worse than the anchor Charles Smith was on the Spurs cap in the late 90s.

Not really. We're talking $60/4 here. Not any worse than Parker's deal.

[Robz4000]

Not really. We're talking $60/4 here. Not any worse than Parker's deal.

The fact Enrique's deal is on the books already can't be changed. Adding another cancerous contract will truly kill the franchise going forward.

[DPG21920]

He was my original guy on the pick-three thread. I think he, Splitter and Diaw would be a fine three-big rotation.

You assuming Duncan not back next year?

[DPG21920]

But, I agree. I said in another thread I would keep my eye on Al Jefferson/Lopez. People are right to be scared of Brook's injuries, but when healthy he is still a very solid offensive big man who can block shots. He won't need to be the focal point, but his ability to finish/shoot will fit in nicely.

Spurs, if Tim comes back, might not have the ability to go after LMA/Gasol without gutting some pretty important pieces. Brook/Al Jefferson may help negate that and net out a win.

I for one would much rather have Brook or Al if that means you keep Tiago/Green/Tim and possibly Boris vs getting LMA and giving up 2+ of those guys.

[Diego20]

Who is him?

[BatManu20]

Brook Lopez and Tiago would break each other every day in practice, tbh. We'd be stuck relying on 40 year-old Timmy to do everything again.

[BatManu20]

Big men with chronic foot injuries is a major red flag. When healthy, Lopez is obviously a very good player, but that's a huge risk to sign long-term.

[slick'81]

Lol so we don't want Aldridge but want lopez ok fck them all we got splitter

[sexinthatsx]

Lets get real, we're not looking for the next complimentary player to Tim Duncan, if Spurs have cap space to sign a big FA this summer, it should be throwing it at a max player that can potentially be a game changer or superstar type players. But since none of those are available, it's just going to be a pretty tough summer.

[DJR210]

Stopped reading after I saw Bleacher Report...

Beat me to it.

[Chinook]

You assuming Duncan not back next year?

I'm actually assuming the opposite don't think it makes any sense to have Tim and Brook on the same roster. The benefit of Lopez is that he'd probably fit into the Spurs' available cap space if Tim and Manu retire. If they stay and the Spurs have to trade to make room for a new guy, then I'd much rather them trade for Aldridge's sake.

[look_at_g_shred]

Ugh gosh no. No thanks!

[DPG21920]

I'm actually assuming the opposite don't think it makes any sense to have Tim and Brook on the same roster. The benefit of Lopez is that he'd probably fit into the Spurs' available cap space if Tim and Manu retire. If they stay and the Spurs have to trade to make room for a new guy, then I'd much rather them trade for Aldridge's sake.

I see - I am thinking along the lines of financially. Brook might get a max offer, but he is more likely to take less/get offered less than LMA. If that's the case and Duncan is back, it might be the difference to the Spurs in keeping one player or more money wise. You likely still have to trade Boris/Tiago if Tim comes back if you want to get LMA/Brooke, but if for some reason it means keeping Green, then I'd rather go cheaper.

[Chinook]

I see - I am thinking along the lines of financially. Brook might get a max offer, but he is more likely to take less/get offered less than LMA. If that's the case and Duncan is back, it might be the difference to the Spurs in keeping one player or more money wise. You likely still have to trade Boris/Tiago if Tim comes back if you want to get LMA/Brooke, but if for some reason it means keeping Green, then I'd rather go cheaper.

I think we both agree Brook is going to be cheaper. But the difference is that the Spurs don't actually have enough cap space no to offer Aldridge a max deal, whether Tim returns or not. If Duncan comes back, the Spurs REALLY don't have cap space. They'll have to trade for either Lopez or Aldridge. In that case, it's Aldridge for me, though the Spurs could keep both Joseph and Mills if they traded Williams and Splitter for Lopez. If Duncan leaves, the Spurs have about $15 Million in space. That would be enough to sign BL, but not LA.

[DPG21920]

For sure - I'm just trying to account for fact that the Spurs may be viewing Danny as a necessary cut if they want LMA. Saving some money on Brook may save Danny. Either way, they do have to trade, it's just less money they have to makeup.

I'm also operating under assumption Tim comes back here. The key is how much does he play for. It's so hard to speculate until we know about Tim/Manu and their contracts. But either way, unless Tim takes the min or something ridiculous, Spurs will have to trade Boris or Tiago if they want a big FA.

[DPG21920]

For example, one scenario that seems semi-realistic (still making huge assumptions about Tim's contract )while giving the Spurs the ability to keep Tim/Tp/Green/Kawhi/Tiago/Boris is if the Spurs trade Kyle/Patty & Tim takes a 5M contract. In that scenario, that gives the Spurs about 15M in cap space and enough to offer Brook close to 60M over 4 years.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol that Lopez is trash, almost like Tim Robbins in that Tenacious D movie is this a joke?

[BatManu20]

Timmy's getting $10M if he comes back, tbh.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

If we got Brook, Robin wouldn't even be a bad fit beside him :lol.. at a huge discount compared to Splitter.. who can do just as much.

[TD 21]

Ugh, please no to Lopez or Greg Monroe, it's 2015..

Ideally, I agree. But if that's the best they can do, I'd sign either. Never forget; it's San Antonio. They don't have the luxury of being picky.

Besides, if they're able to lure someone better in a future off season, both (unless Lopez suffers another significant foot injury) will have resale value. Not only would a team with cap space take them while sending little to no salary back, but they'd send an additional asset too.

[Beaverfuzz]

Stopped reading after I saw Bleacher Report...

Yep. :bobo

[exstatic]

He's a worse china doll than Splitter, someone they're apparently trying to move because he's not durable enough.

[LakerHater]

Lopez will want alota money!

[Seventyniner]

Not really. We're talking $60/4 here. Not any worse than Parker's deal.

Not sure you should use one bad contract to justify another.


What Duncan eventually asks for is once again the first domino this offseason. If he insists on something like $10M like he did two years ago, the Spurs will be best off operating over the cap and either using the MLE or trying to do a sign-and-trade with the FA they want.

[SilverSpur]

Lets have Splitter take a pay cut and work with Hakeem Olajuwon all summer and see if he improves.

[AFBlue]

Spurs have been linked to Aldridge and Gasol legitimately, but I wouldn't be surprised if "rumors" abound for any big name big man and the Spurs. 1. They have or could create cap space. 2. Duncan has been contemplating retirement leaving an obvious hole to plug. 3. It's the Spurs...any agent worth their salt is linking their client to the Spurs to generate interest.

As far as Lopez goes...he's a skilled big man, but injuries and shrunken-balls sydrome seem to be too common an occurrence for my liking.

[MaNu4Tres]

Lopez for 4/50-60 million.. No thank you.

Rather them go after Amir Johnson for less.

[100%duncan]

FUCK NO. I'd rather keep everyone before signing that pussy.

[Chinook]

Not sure you should use one bad contract to justify another.

Parker's contract is bad timing. This summer is the only one in which it's prohibitive. Lopez probably wouldn't have a similar prohibitive period.


What Duncan eventually asks for is once again the first domino this offseason. If he insists on something like $10M like he did two years ago, the Spurs will be best off operating over the cap and either using the MLE or trying to do a sign-and-trade with the FA they want.

And that's something I've said a lot. In fact, if the Spurs can find a way to do a S&T for a decent price, they should stay over the cap anyway. That should be their top priority.

[ceperez]

injury prone.

[TD 21]

Lopez for 4/50-60 million.. No thank you.

Rather them go after Amir Johnson for less.

Johnson's persistent ankle issues have rendered him seemingly permanently gimpy, to the point where his athleticism/mobility is just not the same. This is reflected in his rebounding/shot blocking falling off.

He's still a quality third big, but he's not someone I'd commit something like 3-4 years at $8-9M annually to. Besides, the Spurs need a featured offensive big anyway, not a jack of all trades master of none type.

[baseline bum]

I'd rather the Spurs sign nobody than sign the broken Lopez brother.

[baseline bum]

Thankfully no way Lopez opts out of that guaranteed $17 million or whatever he is due for 2015-16.

[Biggems]

Lopez will want alota money!

medical care isn't cheap....especially when you are continuously in the OR.

[SnakeBoy]

Robin Lopez would be a nice get, Brook would be a horrible signing.

[UZER]

Spurs love dem slow footed non athletic goobers.

Tims bball iq is off the charts and makes up for his non athleticism. He's one of the best players ever. Hes the exception.

These other guys aren't that. They're just slow molasses moving players that are tall who can block an occasional shot. You need guys that can move on the perimeter now. Look what happened to the spurs in the clips series. Forced switches over and over unable to even bother the perimeter players when switched. You need guys who can flash then recover with quick feet.

[exstatic]

Lets have Splitter take a pay cut and work with Hakeem Olajuwon all summer and see if he improves.

Splitter doesn't need to work with anyone, except possibly a calf transplant specialist. When he's healthy, he's perfect for this team. Unfortunately, that seems to be less and less every season.

[Budkin]

Go big or go home. Aldridge or Gasol.

[Big P]

He was my original guy on the pick-three thread. I think he, Splitter and Diaw would be a fine three-big rotation.

If we have to give up Splitter to get LA, how can we keep Splitter and get BLopez? Besides, Lopez has a $16.7 mil player option next season, I'm pretty sure he's not going to leave that money on the table, plus he'll be able to sign a much larger contract when the cap goes up after next season.

[cd021]

I prefer Sideshow Bob but only as a bench player to replace that Ginger piece of shit, tbh.

So Lopez will be the 5th big who can knock down 3s for the vet. min?

[DPG21920]

Thankfully no way Lopez opts out of that guaranteed $17 million or whatever he is due for 2015-16.

I think it's highly likely Lopez opts out. Him waiting another year for a longer term guarantee is risky. He got healthy at the right time and put up some really solid numbers going into the playoffs.

[cd021]

If we have to give up Splitter to get LA, how can we keep Splitter and get BLopez? Besides, Lopez has a $16.7 mil player option next season, I'm pretty sure he's not going to leave that money on the table, plus he'll be able to sign a much larger contract when the cap goes up after next season.

The would need to move Mills, That would give them about $18.2 million in cap space.

[Big P]

I would rather have Aldridge.

[cd021]

I think it's highly likely Lopez opts out. Him waiting another year for a longer term guarantee is risky. He got healthy at the right time and put up some really solid numbers going into the playoffs.

Also the cap jumps to $88 million. Another good season before hitting FA with half the league have max salary money isn't a bad game plan for him.

[DPG21920]

If we have to give up Splitter to get LA, how can we keep Splitter and get BLopez? Besides, Lopez has a $16.7 mil player option next season, I'm pretty sure he's not going to leave that money on the table, plus he'll be able to sign a much larger contract when the cap goes up after next season.

The risk to Brook with his injuries and not securing his future now make it seem really unlikely that he waits. To answer your question, Spurs don't have to give up Tiago to get LA. Spurs have 15M in cap space before Tim & Manu. Whatever they take, directly subtracts from that 15M.

So you have to trade the amount of salary to get to 20M in cap space which is about the max offer for LA. But it doesn't have to be Tiago. It can be Boris and Patty. Whatever makes the math work. People are just using Tiago as an example becuase he has a large enough salary to help and has good value.

[keepinitwill]

I think we should make a run at Paul Milsap. He would fit perfectly, but Timmy would have to play the 5. I also think Roy Hibbert could revive his career with the Spurs.

[Sean Cagney]

So Lopez will be the 5th big who can knock down 3s for the vet. min?

:lol, true indeed there. Bonner can't knock down much of shit anymore though tbh. Lopez will command alot more though and does not really fit a role in SA IMO, would definitely pass on that one.

[SpurPadre]

So Lopez will be the 5th big who can knock down 3s for the vet. min?

Since when have we had a fifth big who can knock down 3s for the vet. min. when it matters?

[Malik Hairston]

Lopez was pretty dominant for the last few months of this season, it was probably the best basketball he has ever played IMO..however, he's still the same player that has averaged 40-45 games played for the past 4 seasons, he's still a black hole that can't really pass(which doesn't fit with the Spurs), and has his rebounding/defense questions..he also can't play with Duncan, assuming we're still considering the Spurs as potential contenders next year..

[cd021]

Since when have we had a fifth big who can knock down 3s for the vet. min. when it matters?

Why would a vet min player be on the floor when it matters, anyways?

[cd021]

I think we should make a run at Paul Milsap. He would fit perfectly, but Timmy would have to play the 5. I also think Roy Hibbert could revive his career with the Spurs.

Duncans already the five going on 10 seasons now. Milsap was high on my list but doesn't make much sense for him to leave Atlanta but who knows. Still tempted by Hibbert but he's likely opting in for another year, I would think.

[Chinook]

If we have to give up Splitter to get LA, how can we keep Splitter and get BLopez? Besides, Lopez has a $16.7 mil player option next season, I'm pretty sure he's not going to leave that money on the table, plus he'll be able to sign a much larger contract when the cap goes up after next season.

It happens a lot that players will opt out for a longer deal at a lower APY than their option year.

[spurspokesman]

Stopped reading after I saw Bleacher Report...

[SpurPadre]

Why would a vet min player be on the floor when it matters, anyways?

Bonner starting in the '14 WCF, remember that? His contributions in that series were vastly overrated, by the way.

[Chinook]

Bonner starting in the '14 WCF, remember that? His contributions in that series were vastly overrated, by the way.

Bonner wasn't a min guy then, and his contributions are underrated, not overrated.

[SpurPadre]

Bonner wasn't a min guy then, and his contributions are underrated, not overrated.


Now we're just talking semantics here. And he didn't play more than 18 minutes in any game he started in that series. Yes, his contributions were overrated while Diaw's were underrated.

[Chinook]

Now we're just talking semantics here. And he didn't play more than 18 minutes in any game he started in that series. Yes, his contributions were overrated while Diaw's were underrated.

Lol, Diaw got plenty of love for the OKC series, and Bonner didn't get enough credit for the job he did on defense.

[cd021]

Now we're just talking semantics here. And he didn't play more than 18 minutes in any game he started in that series. Yes, his contributions were overrated while Diaw's were underrated.

Seems like you're changing your argument. He was making $4.5 million then last season it was the vet min. He barely played.