Seeded With Tax Cuts, Kansas Harvests the Benefits

[tlongII]

I hear black people shoot each other there.


.... even with gun control, the horrors!

Trash was gonna send Feds to help the corrupt Chicago police, but of course, just another lie



Relevance?

[Pavlov]

Relevance?This post is ironic.

[RandomGuy]

Or California.

You mean the state with the balanced budget?


Gov. Jerry Brown and state lawmakers could have a net budget windfall of some $7.5 billion by the summer of 2019 under a new analysis... released Wednesday by the independent Legislative Analyst's Office

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-s-state-budget-could-soon-be-1510800164-htmlstory.html

[boutons_deux]

You mean the state with the balanced budget?



http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-s-state-budget-could-soon-be-1510800164-htmlstory.html

and CA's "high tax" "high cost" state is doing a hell of a lot better than any low-tax, low-cost red fucking state.

And millionaires didn't flee CA when CA raised taxes a couple years ago to address its deficit.

[RandomGuy]

At least they aren’t Illinois.

ah, the whataboutism defense.

This Soviet propaganda technique seems to, for some strange reason, be all in vogue for conservatives in the US. When faced with solid criticism of how shitty some Republican, or favored Republican policy is, fall back on the "what about..."

Republican tax policy is an indefensible, clear disaster. If it were otherwise, you could easily say why. You can't, and have obviously stopped trying.

I accept your surrender.

[RandomGuy]

and CA's "high tax" "high cost" state is doing a hell of a lot better than any low-tax, low-cost red fucking state.

And millionaires didn't flee CA when CA raised taxes a couple years ago to address its deficit.

CA has raised taxes on the wealthy, and looks to benefit from that, and reverse a long trend of under-investment. I guess we will get to see what Democratic ideas for managing a government actually do.

[spurraider21]

aren't you glad john oliver popularized that term and told you about its soviet origins all so you can find a new angle to pimp the russia stuff?

[boutons_deux]

CA has raised taxes on the wealthy, and looks to benefit from that, and reverse a long trend of under-investment. I guess we will get to see what Democratic ideas for managing a government actually do.

CA does have an (affordable) housing crisis, much of that due to Banksters Great THIEVING Depression where Indy Mac, etc sold home owners a bunch of debt, like piggy backed home equity loans, then the creditors stole 4M+ homes forcing people into renting apts (apt rents are way up) and renting the homes owned by Capitalists rather than by homeowners.

[RandomGuy]

aren't you glad john oliver popularized that term and told you about its soviet origins all so you can find a new angle to pimp the russia stuff?

I was an intelligence analyst during the last of the Cold War. I am glad he reminded me of it though, yes.

I can see how it must be galling to have the leading figure in your preferred political party beholden to a hostile foreign power, and be constantly reminded of it. I don't really feel sorry for you though. You collectively made your bed. Have fun with the bugs.

[Chucho]

You mean the state with the balanced budget?



http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-s-state-budget-could-soon-be-1510800164-htmlstory.html


A balanced budget doesn't offset how awful he has been. We're still in the hole anywhere from $200-$700 billion, the state government gave themselves their annual raise that not a single citizen has a single word in that and we just got hit with a $52 billion gas tax and doubled registration fees to cover things our exorbitant state taxes should already cover. Moonbeam is getting his tunnels and speed train, come hell or highwater.

So, yeah, neat, balanced budget. But he is a bad, bad person running a bad Administration and while soooooo many in the working and lower classes are flat out struggling and borderline homeless, at least the state government is eating good.

I will give him this though- he is doing well in trying to fix the giant mess Schwarz did to the public school system here.

[Chucho]

No transparency. Turning the screws on SMB owners and the lower classes, little to no transparency. He's a bad Governor. And man, if he gets those Delta tunnels...oh man...

[spurraider21]

I was an intelligence analyst during the last of the Cold War. I am glad he reminded me of it though, yes.

I can see how it must be galling to have the leading figure in your preferred political party beholden to a hostile foreign power, and be constantly reminded of it. I don't really feel sorry for you though. You collectively made your bed. Have fun with the bugs.
come again?

[RandomGuy]

come again?

Happy to take it back if it is inaccurate.

Guessing I inferred too much by the "pimp Russia stuff" comment.

[spurraider21]

Happy to take it back if it is inaccurate.

Guessing I inferred too much by the "pimp Russia stuff" comment.
You act as though the application of whataboutism is indicative of support for Russia. That's an absurd leap.

[boutons_deux]

Trump administration stops short of approving the most restrictive Medicaid policy yet

Lifetime limits went too far this time.

The Trump administration just denied Kansas’ request (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/386497-trump-officials-reject-medicaid-lifetime-limits-in-kansas) to create an unprecedented “lifetime limit” on Medicaid, a federal insurance largely for the poor and disabled.

“We seek to create a pathway out of poverty, :lol :lol

but we also understand that people’s circumstances change, and we must ensure that our programs are sustainable and available to them when they need and qualify for them,” Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) Administrator Seema Verma said during an American Hospital Association meeting on Monday.

Lifetime coverage limits cap access to coverage.

Had CMS approved Kansas’ request, Medicaid members would have been limited to a three-year lifetime limit.

Four other states (https://www.healthinsurance.org/medicaid/#proposals) (Arizona, Maine, Utah, and Wisconsin) also sought to implement lifetime caps for Medicaid.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-administration-stops-short-of-approving-the-most-restrictive-medicaid-policy-yet-135306e36e84/

The oligarchy is relentless in its War on the Poor, which it is winning

[boutons_deux]

Kansas government didn’t tell Wichita-area residents their water was contaminated for 6 years

the Kansas government had knowledge of two neighborhoods in the Wichita-area that had contaminated water. However, they didn’t act for six or seven years (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216625720.html).

According to The Wichita Eagle, hundreds of residents drank water that was

contaminated by a dry cleaning chemical known as perchloroethylene that had seeped into the groundwater.
The discovery was made in 2011 when investigating a possible expansion of a Kwik Shop, but

it took six years for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to inform the residents.

But, wells owned by private citizens less than a mile away weren’t tested.

For Joe Hufman, it was seven years before he learned his suburban well was contaminated by a Haysville dry cleaner.

“Haysville knew it.

KDHE knew it.

Kwik Shop knew it,” he told The Eagle.

His isn’t the only case, either.

Another dry cleaning site, near Central and Tyler in Wichita,

was contaminated and the

state didn’t notify residents of more than 200 homes for four years their drinking water had been impacted.

There are 22 contaminated sites across the state where private wells haven’t been checked,

so these two could be only the beginning.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/kansas-government-didnt-tell-wichita-area-residents-water-contaminated-6-years/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Repug MISgovernance, and y'all keep voting for them.

[RandomGuy]

Kansas government didn’t tell Wichita-area residents their water was contaminated for 6 years

the Kansas government had knowledge of two neighborhoods in the Wichita-area that had contaminated water. However, they didn’t act for six or seven years (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216625720.html).

According to The Wichita Eagle, hundreds of residents drank water that was

contaminated by a dry cleaning chemical known as perchloroethylene that had seeped into the groundwater.
The discovery was made in 2011 when investigating a possible expansion of a Kwik Shop, but

it took six years for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to inform the residents.

But, wells owned by private citizens less than a mile away weren’t tested.

For Joe Hufman, it was seven years before he learned his suburban well was contaminated by a Haysville dry cleaner.

“Haysville knew it.

KDHE knew it.

Kwik Shop knew it,” he told The Eagle.

His isn’t the only case, either.

Another dry cleaning site, near Central and Tyler in Wichita,

was contaminated and the

state didn’t notify residents of more than 200 homes for four years their drinking water had been impacted.

There are 22 contaminated sites across the state where private wells haven’t been checked,

so these two could be only the beginning.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/kansas-government-didnt-tell-wichita-area-residents-water-contaminated-6-years/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Repug MISgovernance, and y'all keep voting for them.



Holee shite.

This is the price for being "business friendly". That and fertilizer plant explosions.

Gotta have them jobs, never mind the cancer babies, and incinerated firefighters, amaright?

[Will Hunting]

:lmao this thread
:lmao fucking Kansas voting for a Democratic governor because of how much of a disaster their tax cuts were
:lmao the magic of trickle down economics

[Splits]

:lol tlongII

[RandomGuy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

Liberals love to hate Sam Brownback, and for good reason. The Kansas governor threatens a central tenet of liberal orthodoxy: the belief that higher taxes are a price that must be paid for progress.

“If your objective is to grow the economy, would you rather put more money into government, or leave it in the hands of small business?” Mr. Brownback asks during a recent interview in his office at the state capitol. Three years ago Kansas enacted the biggest tax cut of any state, relative to the size of its economy, in recent history. Lawmakers reduced the top rate on the personal income tax to 4.9% from 6.45%. They also eliminated the income tax for small business owners who file as individuals, a broad group that includes sole proprietors, limited liability partnerships and S-corporations.

The governor declared that Kansas was “open for business” in such strong terms that he might as well have donned a sandwich board reading “Come to Kansas / Keep Everything You Earn.” He boasted: “Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy.”

The comment was subsequently picked up by critics who wondered why the Kansas economy wasn’t suddenly leaping ahead at, say, 4%-5% growth annually. When Mr. Brownback ran for re-election last year, national reporters descended on the Sunflower State and quickly made Kansas the national symbol for the alleged depredations of “trickle-down economics.” A sampling of headlines includes: “How Tea Party tax cuts are turning Kansas into a smoking ruin,” L.A. Times, July 9; “Kansas’ Ruinous Tax Cuts,” the New York Times, July 13; and “The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster,” Rolling Stone, Oct. 23.

Yet voters re-elected Mr. Brownback by a four-point margin. What the news coverage missed was that if Kansas hasn’t exactly catapulted into the front ranks in economic growth and employment, then it has at least moved a long way from the stagnation of recent decades. Consider:

• In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

How is that trickle-down bullpiss working for you? Feeling the warmth of success yet? :lmao

[AaronY]

:lmao this thread
:lmao fucking Kansas voting for a Democratic governor because of how much of a disaster their tax cuts were
:lmao the magic of trickle down economics
lmao forgot about this

:cry if only the dems would get out of the way of the free market :cry

[tlongII]

How is that trickle-down bullpiss working for you? Feeling the warmth of success yet? :lmao

Working great for me. How bout you?

[Spurminator]

:lmao this thread
:lmao fucking Kansas voting for a Democratic governor because of how much of a disaster their tax cuts were
:lmao the magic of trickle down economics

:lmao

[Pavlov]

Working great for me. How bout you? You're in Kansas?

[Chucho]

Kansas- 11.9% below the poverty line. Awful state economy.

California- 21% below the poverty line. Best state economy. Massive surplus and massive taxes.

But, Kansas, right?

Doesn't matter who runs things and how things appear on paper. Proportionately, the biggest blue state with the most income and wealth of any state has twice the volume of impoverished people.

[Will Hunting]

Kansas- 11.9% below the poverty line. Awful state economy.

California- 21% below the poverty line. Best state economy. Massive surplus and massive taxes.

But, Kansas, right?

Doesn't matter who runs things and how things appear on paper. Proportionately, the biggest blue state with the most income and wealth of any state has twice the volume of impoverished people.
California overregulating everything and choking the supply of housing to make it unaffordable doesn’t change anything about how much of a disaster the Kansas tax cuts were. I’m in 100% agreement that California takes it way too far to the other end.

[Chucho]

That poverty line is going to explode with Gavin Newsome as our new Governor. There's probably never been a bigger bootlicker so intent on carrying out an agenda to hurt it's people so much. I don't even think Himler would have been the equivalent to Gavin "Going to pump Billions into a dead train project because I'm supposed to" Newsome.

[Will Hunting]

That poverty line is going to explode with Gavin Newsome as our new Governor. There's probably never been a bigger bootlicker so intent on carrying out an agenda to hurt it's people so much. I don't even think Himler would have been the equivalent to Gavin "Going to pump Billions into a dead train project because I'm supposed to" Newsome.
The taxes/spending in California don’t bother me as much as the overregulation does. Vermont is even worse. The occupancy rate across all multi family housing in the Burlington area is over 99% because of how cost prohibitive new construction is, and even if you buy the shittiest, smallest house, be prepared to drop at least $300k.

[Chucho]

California overregulating everything and choking the supply of housing to make it unaffordable doesn’t change anything about how much of a disaster the Kansas tax cuts were. I’m in 100% agreement that California takes it way too far to the other end.

I agree to an extent with the tax cuts. But even with that, 11.9% poverty for a state that doesn't have much of an economy compared to most states and that 11.9% poverty rate isn't even bottom half of poverty rates. So, while it failed a bit, their motive was intended to help people. And it hasn't crippled the state in the sense that a lot of people are making it out to.

Now, compared to California, our politicians pass laws and measures because, like with the tax cuts, are designed to help people, California has the resources and finances to help the problems of crime, homelessness and poverty, but dont. The minimum wage increase forced 250k jobs minimum over state borders and they do nothing, absolutely NOTHING to help with housing and now that the little cities that are completely forgotten and ignored by CA politicians are standing their ground against the bully metro areas, the public is seeing how much a mess this place is.

Here's the thing with California Democrats and why their the worst bunch of politicians on the planet- their bigger thieves overall than the faggot in office. But their career politicians, so they can rob us and keep a smile on their face while they do it. Tens of billions into a train system where nothing physical or tangible really exists, they're going to divert all the farmland water down south and into the ocean, as they've done the last four years while farmers struggle and who needs food anyways, right?

This place is worse than Kansas unless you're a politician or rich. But, they can go to the media and boast their state economy and surplus...you're going to have that when you're literally killing your middle class.

[Chucho]

The only other state that cares less about their people than California is Michigan.

[Will Hunting]

I agree to an extent with the tax cuts. But even with that, 11.9% poverty for a state that doesn't have much of an economy compared to most states and that 11.9% poverty rate isn't even bottom half of poverty rates. So, while it failed a bit, their motive was intended to help people. And it hasn't crippled the state in the sense that a lot of people are making it out to.

Now, compared to California, our politicians pass laws and measures because, like with the tax cuts, are designed to help people, California has the resources and finances to help the problems of crime, homelessness and poverty, but dont. The minimum wage increase forced 250k jobs minimum over state borders and they do nothing, absolutely NOTHING to help with housing and now that the little cities that are completely forgotten and ignored by CA politicians are standing their ground against the bully metro areas, the public is seeing how much a mess this place is.

Here's the thing with California Democrats and why their the worst bunch of politicians on the planet- their bigger thieves overall than the faggot in office. But their career politicians, so they can rob us and keep a smile on their face while they do it. Tens of billions into a train system where nothing physical or tangible really exists, they're going to divert all the farmland water down south and into the ocean, as they've done the last four years while farmers struggle and who needs food anyways, right?

This place is worse than Kansas unless you're a politician or rich. But, they can go to the media and boast their state economy and surplus...you're going to have that when you're literally killing your middle class.
Imo you can’t just look at poverty line and I disagree that the tax cuts were done in good faith. Brownback was a whore for the Koch brothers and him slashing taxes was a quid pro quo for them getting him elected. The big tax cuts in Kansas were also given to corporations and businesses, not individuals. Income taxes on LLC income were thrown out completely for example. That doesn’t benefit the people living at or near the poverty line.

The tax cuts also created a huge budget deficit for Kansas that’s going to take years to pay off.

[Chucho]

Imo you can’t just look at poverty line and I disagree that the tax cuts were done in good faith. Brownback was a whore for the Koch brothers and him slashing taxes was a quid pro quo for them getting him elected. The big tax cuts in Kansas were also given to corporations and businesses, not individuals. Income taxes on LLC income were thrown out completely for example. That doesn’t benefit the people living at or near the poverty line.

The tax cuts also created a huge budget deficit for Kansas that’s going to take years to pay off.


That is completely true and valid. :thumbsup

[Will Hunting]

That is completely true and valid. :thumbsup
I’m not saying that to dispute California though, to be clear. The tax rates in California are offensive imo. A guy who makes 50k a year having a 9.3% tax rate is crippling vs. someone who makes $1mm a year having a 13.3% tax rate. Their tax code absolutely rapes the middle class.

[Chucho]

I’m not saying that to dispute California though, to be clear. The tax rates in California are offensive imo. A guy who makes 50k a year having a 9.3% tax rate is crippling vs. someone who makes $1mm a year having a 13.3% tax rate. Their tax code absolutely rapes the middle class.


There's more taxes still coming and that is something our Governor elect drove home.

Honestly, they need to increase property taxes here. They're abysmally small, which is one of the few advantages of owning a home here. But the bubble is going to burst here very soon.

In 2010, we almost bought a home here, the market had bottomed out. We're talking homes no older than 3 years old were going for $100-125k and by 2016 those homes had tripled in price and now the cost of these homes is nearing a half million for 3 bed, 2 bath track homes in shit parts of Cali.

And there's the water theft and the complete illegality of it all and how brazen they are about it.

Like I said, the better thieves are the politicians who have been in the game longest. They're better at packaging and selling bullshit to their people.

[Quadzilla99]

now that we're talking about Cali i'd just like to bump these evergreen posts


You notice Republicans only come in here to change the subject now


"I'm gonna go in the Kansas thread and see if we can talk about stuff that's not Kansas"

[spurraider21]

as willhunting referenced, one of CA's biggest issues is building regulation.

[spurraider21]

There's more taxes still coming and that is something our Governor elect drove home.

Honestly, they need to increase property taxes here. They're abysmally small, which is one of the few advantages of owning a home here. But the bubble is going to burst here very soon.

In 2010, we almost bought a home here, the market had bottomed out. We're talking homes no older than 3 years old were going for $100-125k and by 2016 those homes had tripled in price and now the cost of these homes is nearing a half million for 3 bed, 2 bath track homes in shit parts of Cali.

And there's the water theft and the complete illegality of it all and how brazen they are about it.

Like I said, the better thieves are the politicians who have been in the game longest. They're better at packaging and selling bullshit to their people.
yeah i'm not even dreaming about buying a home anytime soon :lol... i'd need several 100k down just to knock on the door, and even then you have to compete with full cash offers from investors.

then again, i'm in LA

[AaronY]

California overregulating everything and choking the supply of housing to make it unaffordable doesn’t change anything about how much of a disaster the Kansas tax cuts were. I’m in 100% agreement that California takes it way too far to the other end.
This is so fucking true. Also liberal Nimbys are the fucking worst people on earth. I follow this wokieleaks guy on twitter and he has a lot of great posts on california basically making it illegal to build housing

[AaronY]

This is that guys twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/realwokieleaks/with_replies
He got banned under a few other names but this is the new one he has lately. Im a huge fanboy for that dude

[Chucho]

yeah i'm not even dreaming about buying a home anytime soon :lol... i'd need several 100k down just to knock on the door, and even then you have to compete with full cash offers from investors.

then again, i'm in LA


How long did you live in LA before you fully were acclimated to the smog? Like how long before the smog stopped bothering you and it just felt normal?

I still can't get over it. Pass Fresno and come over the Mountains thru Grapevine into the Valley and *bam* everything is three shades darker and things look like their matte finished. I've spent weeks down there and still can't get over it.

[spurraider21]

How long did you live in LA before you fully were acclimated to the smog? Like how long before the smog stopped bothering you and it just felt normal?

I still can't get over it. Pass Fresno and come over the Mountains thru Grapevine into the Valley and *bam* everything is three shades darker and things look like their matte finished. I've spent weeks down there and still can't get over it.
You think the smog is your ally? You merely adopted the smog. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the sky until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!

tl;dr i was born and raised here so its all i know

[Chucho]

You think the smog is your ally? You merely adopted the smog. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the sky until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!

tl;dr i was born and raised here so its all i know


They say here in the Central Valley that the air quality shaves a 1 to 3 off your lifespan.

[spurraider21]

They say here in the Central Valley that the air quality shaves a 1 to 3 off your lifespan.
i might get out of here for a few years, depending on what school the wife ends up going to

[Chucho]

i might get out of here for a few years, depending on what school the wife ends up going to


Oregon. Gorgeous. Rains a bit much, but is everything that is beautiful about California minus the California trash.

[Chucho]

Or Washington. The Pacific Northwest in general is a no-lose.

[spurraider21]

Or Washington. The Pacific Northwest in general is a no-lose.
as of now she has interviewed at syracuse, st louis, boston, cleveland, san fran. has an interview scheduled with usc in january as well

[Chucho]

as of now she has interviewed at syracuse, st louis, boston, cleveland, san fran. has an interview scheduled with usc in january as well


Awesome. If you had your rathers, where would y'all head?

[spurraider21]

Awesome. If you had your rathers, where would y'all head?
i know ur gonna kill me but we'd prefer to stay local :lol... easier to be around family/friends. especially if we're planning on having a kid during her 4th year of school or somethin.

second choice would be going to norcal because stanford is a fucking amazing school and i wouldn't have to take a different bar exam.

after that, probably cleveland because the school is great and cost of living is minimal. she hated St Louis, liked boston, and thought syracuse was boring af.

[Chucho]

i know ur gonna kill me but we'd prefer to stay local :lol... easier to be around family/friends. especially if we're planning on having a kid during her 4th year of school or somethin.

second choice would be going to norcal because stanford is a fucking amazing school and i wouldn't have to take a different bar exam.

after that, probably cleveland because the school is great and cost of living is minimal. she hated St Louis, liked boston, and thought syracuse was boring af.


Home is where you're comfy and happy at. Wherever y'all land, congrats and to your success!

[tlongII]

You're in Kansas?

Nope.

[Pavlov]

Nope.Exactly.

[tlongII]

Exactly.

Yep.

[AaronY]

Yep.
What do you think Kansas should have done differently?

cut taxes more maybe?

[tlongII]

What do you think Kansas should have done differently?

cut taxes more maybe?

They did the right thing.

[RandomGuy]

Imo you can’t just look at poverty line and I disagree that the tax cuts were done in good faith. Brownback was a whore for the Koch brothers and him slashing taxes was a quid pro quo for them getting him elected. The big tax cuts in Kansas were also given to corporations and businesses, not individuals. Income taxes on LLC income were thrown out completely for example. That doesn’t benefit the people living at or near the poverty line.

The tax cuts also created a huge budget deficit for Kansas that’s going to take years to pay off.

... don't forget the credit rating downgrades... and all sorts of deferred maintenance of infrastructure that is not being done while the cash flow stabilizes. Very often that runs at a pretty massive deficit that takes years to clear.

I have little doubt that the state will be taking a hit to its roads, bridges, and buildings for years, one of the hidden costs of Republican dumbassery.

[Winehole23]

...leaving schools and hospitals entirely to the side.

[Isitjustme?]

They did the right thing.

I agree. Electing a Dem Governor and repudiating trickle down economics was most assuredly the right thing to do

[vy65]

Currently in Kansas for work. This place is a massive shit hole.

[pgardn]

:lmao quadrupling down on stupidity.m

A Trumptard prerequisite.

[Spurminator]

Nope.


Yep.


They did the right thing.

This is how children respond when they know they're wrong.

[boutons_deux]

Kansas Governor Calls On County Official To Resign Over ‘Master Race’ Comment

Leavenworth County Commissioner Louis Klemp made the remark to a black city planner at a public meeting last week.

Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer (R) on Saturday urged one of the state’s county commissioners to resign after

he described himself as “part of the master race” while addressing a black woman at a public meeting last week.
Leavenworth County Commissioner Louis Klemp, who is white, appeared to have expressed disapproval over a presentation given by the woman, a city planner, moments before making the off-the-cuff comment.

“I don’t want to think I’m picking on you, because we’re part of the master race,”

Klemp told the woman as he motioned to his teeth.

“You know you’ve got a gap in your teeth. :lol W T F ? :lol

You’re the master race.

Don’t ever forget that.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/louis-klemp-master-race_us_5bf1cbece4b07573881f85be?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__111918&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__111918+CID_1c67a456 a8bf75dfc4c25499338c3298&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__111918

All y'all Trash fellators, that's y'all's AmeriKKKa

[boutons_deux]

Kansas Hits Hemp Farmers With Felonies, Accuses Them Of Trafficking Weed

Kansas seized 350 pounds of leafy green plant material from a FedEx truck two years ago. But they still don’t know what they actually seized.

It was either a huge drug bust or a huge embarrassment. Kansas authorities aren’t sure which one yet.

In early January 2017, Kansas Highway Patrol seized more than 300 pounds of what they believed to be marijuana from the back of a FedEx semi-truck at a warehouse in Liberal, Kansas. :lol

Official paperwork from the Colorado Department of Agriculture accompanying the load affirmed it was actually hemp and that, as stipulated by Colorado law, the plants contained no more than 0.3 percent THC.

on Jan. 31, 2019, prosecutors in Seward County charged the farmers, Eric and Ryan Jensen, with four drug-related crimes apiece, three of them felonies.

Kansas unsuccessfully attempted to extradite Eric (but not Ryan),

causing Eric to lose his secondary jobs as a bus driver and coach at the local school district in Holly, Colorado.

He’s also unable to travel, as Kansas’ warrant is active in every state but Colorado.

the 350 pounds of product ― worth an estimated $35 to $40 per pound (https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/these-hemp-farmers-are-making-a-killing-on-the-cbd-industry) if it’s indeed hemp ― have wasted away in a Kansas warehouse.

“It is now worthless for its intended purpose, which is the extraction of CBD oil,”


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hemp-farmers-kansas-felony-cannabis_n_5d3f1c30e4b01d8c977f3cce?ncid=newsltush pmgnews__TheMorningEmail__080119

$40 / pound for a weed? :lol

Marijuana on Schedule 1 is even stupider than Kansas

[boutons_deux]

Even a Spanish name is ok, but no knitter names for shithole Kansas

Kansas City Votes To Remove Dr. Martin Luther King’s Name From Historic Street

The vote came less than a year after the city council decided to rename The Paseo for the civil rights icon.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kansas-city-votes-to-remove-martin-luther-kings-name-from-historic-street_n_5dc257a1e4b08b735d620c38?ncid=newsltushpm gnews (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kansas-city-votes-to-remove-martin-luther-kings-name-from-historic-street_n_5dc257a1e4b08b735d620c38?ncid=newsltushpm gnews)

[ChumpDumper]

Wrong state.

[boutons_deux]

Wrong state.

all red states are shitholes

[ChumpDumper]

Wrong shithole.

[RandomGuy]

Currently in Kansas for work. This place is a massive shit hole.

see post 305

[Spurminator]

Wrong state.

:lol

[ElNono]

surprised Aaron didn't use votingrepublican.jpg in this one, tbh :lol

[RandomGuy]

Currently in Kansas for work. This place is a massive shit hole.

... don't forget the credit rating downgrades... and all sorts of deferred maintenance of infrastructure that is not being done while the cash flow stabilizes. Very often that runs at a pretty massive deficit that takes years to clear.

I have little doubt that the state will be taking a hit to its roads, bridges, and buildings for years, one of the hidden costs of Republican dumbassery.

Fail to invest in people, i.e. human capital, coupled with a failure to invest in physical capital, and that is what you get.

Things like food stamps that you revile so much provide ways for societies to invest in people, which are the ultimate driver of any economy. Suck up the fact that some are always going to abuse anything, and take a cold hard look at cost/benefits economically.

Conservative policies generally fail when one applies a wider cost/benefit analysis in my experience. Free birth control is a good example of a progressive policy that costs some up front, but saves down the road.

Just sayin'.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

Liberals love to hate Sam Brownback, and for good reason. The Kansas governor threatens a central tenet of liberal orthodoxy: the belief that higher taxes are a price that must be paid for progress.

“If your objective is to grow the economy, would you rather put more money into government, or leave it in the hands of small business?” Mr. Brownback asks during a recent interview in his office at the state capitol. Three years ago Kansas enacted the biggest tax cut of any state, relative to the size of its economy, in recent history. Lawmakers reduced the top rate on the personal income tax to 4.9% from 6.45%. They also eliminated the income tax for small business owners who file as individuals, a broad group that includes sole proprietors, limited liability partnerships and S-corporations.

The governor declared that Kansas was “open for business” in such strong terms that he might as well have donned a sandwich board reading “Come to Kansas / Keep Everything You Earn.” He boasted: “Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy.”

The comment was subsequently picked up by critics who wondered why the Kansas economy wasn’t suddenly leaping ahead at, say, 4%-5% growth annually. When Mr. Brownback ran for re-election last year, national reporters descended on the Sunflower State and quickly made Kansas the national symbol for the alleged depredations of “trickle-down economics.” A sampling of headlines includes: “How Tea Party tax cuts are turning Kansas into a smoking ruin,” L.A. Times, July 9; “Kansas’ Ruinous Tax Cuts,” the New York Times, July 13; and “The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster,” Rolling Stone, Oct. 23.

Yet voters re-elected Mr. Brownback by a four-point margin. What the news coverage missed was that if Kansas hasn’t exactly catapulted into the front ranks in economic growth and employment, then it has at least moved a long way from the stagnation of recent decades. Consider:

• In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

Still a failure. After Democrats were successful in finally reversing the failed Republican policies, the economy finally got back on track.


Topeka ? Kansas lawmakers late Monday passed and sent to Gov. Sam Brownback a school finance bill that phases in a $293 million increase in annual K-12 school spending over the next two years and a tax bill that reverses course on many of the tax cuts that Brownback championed in 2012.

Brownback issued a statement immediately after the Senate vote that he would veto the tax bill.

“Given that this tax package was assembled and passed just today, I hope to avoid any unnecessary delays by announcing that I will veto Senate Bill 30, allowing the legislature sufficient time to address its many deficiencies and harmful impacts on Kansas families,” he said in a statement emailed to news outlets. “We have worked hard in Kansas to move our tax policy to a pro-growth orientation. This bill undoes much of that progress. It will substantially damage job creation and leave our citizens poorer in the future.”

That action came on the 108th day of a legislative session after weeks of partisan stalemates over those two key issues. It also came just hours after the House rejected an effort to put both the school funding policy and new tax policy in a single bill.

The school finance bill is needed because the current funding system expires on June 30, and the Supreme Court has declared that funding to be inadequate and unconstitutional. In a decision released in March, the court threatened to close the state’s public school system on July 1 if lawmakers do not pass a constitutional funding mechanism by that time.

Meanwhile, the tax bill is considered critical in order to pay for the school plan and prevent the need for massive budget cuts due to revenue shortfalls the state has experienced almost constantly since Brownback’s tax policies took effect.

It’s almost certain, however, that Brownback will veto the tax bill, as he did a similar bill in February. This time, though, supporters of the bill say they are more confident that they can muster the two-thirds majorities needed to override a veto.

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jun/05/house-rejects-combined-school-funding-and-income-t/



The comeback state of 2019: Kansas economy rebounds from tax-cutting disaster

One year ago Kansas was still nursing a hangover from a disastrous tax-cutting experiment by former Republican Gov. Sam Brownback, who slashed individual income-tax rates and eliminated taxes on “pass-through” income from certain businesses. Even though a bipartisan super-majority of the state legislature had repealed the Brownback program over his veto in 2017, the state was still dealing with a residual $351 million revenue shortfall for fiscal 2018, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. In addition to its No. 35 overall ranking last year, Kansas finished a dismal No. 45 in the Economy category.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/top-state-mover-kansas-rebounds-from-tax-cutting-disaster.html

[DMX7]

Wrong shithole.

Trump made the same mistake not too long ago. Kansas City should probably just change it's name at this point to avoid confusion since it's not in Kansas.

[leemajors]

Trump made the same mistake not too long ago. Kansas City should probably just change it's name at this point to avoid confusion since it's not in Kansas.

It straddles the border.

[boutons_deux]

It straddles the border.

"both sides"

[RandomGuy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

Liberals love to hate Sam Brownback, and for good reason. The Kansas governor threatens a central tenet of liberal orthodoxy: the belief that higher taxes are a price that must be paid for progress.

“If your objective is to grow the economy, would you rather put more money into government, or leave it in the hands of small business?” Mr. Brownback asks during a recent interview in his office at the state capitol. Three years ago Kansas enacted the biggest tax cut of any state, relative to the size of its economy, in recent history. Lawmakers reduced the top rate on the personal income tax to 4.9% from 6.45%. They also eliminated the income tax for small business owners who file as individuals, a broad group that includes sole proprietors, limited liability partnerships and S-corporations.

The governor declared that Kansas was “open for business” in such strong terms that he might as well have donned a sandwich board reading “Come to Kansas / Keep Everything You Earn.” He boasted: “Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy.”

The comment was subsequently picked up by critics who wondered why the Kansas economy wasn’t suddenly leaping ahead at, say, 4%-5% growth annually. When Mr. Brownback ran for re-election last year, national reporters descended on the Sunflower State and quickly made Kansas the national symbol for the alleged depredations of “trickle-down economics.” A sampling of headlines includes: “How Tea Party tax cuts are turning Kansas into a smoking ruin,” L.A. Times, July 9; “Kansas’ Ruinous Tax Cuts,” the New York Times, July 13; and “The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster,” Rolling Stone, Oct. 23.

Yet voters re-elected Mr. Brownback by a four-point margin. What the news coverage missed was that if Kansas hasn’t exactly catapulted into the front ranks in economic growth and employment, then it has at least moved a long way from the stagnation of recent decades. Consider:

• In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

has Kansas harvested the benefits yet? :rollin

[RandomGuy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

Liberals love to hate Sam Brownback, and for good reason. The Kansas governor threatens a central tenet of liberal orthodoxy: the belief that higher taxes are a price that must be paid for progress.

“If your objective is to grow the economy, would you rather put more money into government, or leave it in the hands of small business?” Mr. Brownback asks during a recent interview in his office at the state capitol. Three years ago Kansas enacted the biggest tax cut of any state, relative to the size of its economy, in recent history. Lawmakers reduced the top rate on the personal income tax to 4.9% from 6.45%. They also eliminated the income tax for small business owners who file as individuals, a broad group that includes sole proprietors, limited liability partnerships and S-corporations.

The governor declared that Kansas was “open for business” in such strong terms that he might as well have donned a sandwich board reading “Come to Kansas / Keep Everything You Earn.” He boasted: “Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy.”

The comment was subsequently picked up by critics who wondered why the Kansas economy wasn’t suddenly leaping ahead at, say, 4%-5% growth annually. When Mr. Brownback ran for re-election last year, national reporters descended on the Sunflower State and quickly made Kansas the national symbol for the alleged depredations of “trickle-down economics.” A sampling of headlines includes: “How Tea Party tax cuts are turning Kansas into a smoking ruin,” L.A. Times, July 9; “Kansas’ Ruinous Tax Cuts,” the New York Times, July 13; and “The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster,” Rolling Stone, Oct. 23.

Yet voters re-elected Mr. Brownback by a four-point margin. What the news coverage missed was that if Kansas hasn’t exactly catapulted into the front ranks in economic growth and employment, then it has at least moved a long way from the stagnation of recent decades. Consider:

• In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

nope... still no harvest. :rollin

[RandomGuy]

You can't seriously compare a state with the US because states have to balance budgets and can't run a deficit and the US can and does.

Hmm. "CosmicCowboy" and "deficit" doesn't seem to have many hits.

Doesn't seem to be a statement about how concerned you were about deficits under Trump...

[RandomGuy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

Liberals love to hate Sam Brownback, and for good reason. The Kansas governor threatens a central tenet of liberal orthodoxy: the belief that higher taxes are a price that must be paid for progress.

“If your objective is to grow the economy, would you rather put more money into government, or leave it in the hands of small business?” Mr. Brownback asks during a recent interview in his office at the state capitol. Three years ago Kansas enacted the biggest tax cut of any state, relative to the size of its economy, in recent history. Lawmakers reduced the top rate on the personal income tax to 4.9% from 6.45%. They also eliminated the income tax for small business owners who file as individuals, a broad group that includes sole proprietors, limited liability partnerships and S-corporations.

The governor declared that Kansas was “open for business” in such strong terms that he might as well have donned a sandwich board reading “Come to Kansas / Keep Everything You Earn.” He boasted: “Our new pro-growth tax policy will be like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of the Kansas economy.”

The comment was subsequently picked up by critics who wondered why the Kansas economy wasn’t suddenly leaping ahead at, say, 4%-5% growth annually. When Mr. Brownback ran for re-election last year, national reporters descended on the Sunflower State and quickly made Kansas the national symbol for the alleged depredations of “trickle-down economics.” A sampling of headlines includes: “How Tea Party tax cuts are turning Kansas into a smoking ruin,” L.A. Times, July 9; “Kansas’ Ruinous Tax Cuts,” the New York Times, July 13; and “The Great Kansas Tea Party Disaster,” Rolling Stone, Oct. 23.

Yet voters re-elected Mr. Brownback by a four-point margin. What the news coverage missed was that if Kansas hasn’t exactly catapulted into the front ranks in economic growth and employment, then it has at least moved a long way from the stagnation of recent decades. Consider:

• In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

Six years later.

nope, still not seeded with :jack

[boutons_deux]

Kansas Provides Compelling Evidence of Failure of "Supply-Side" Tax Cuts

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/kansas-provides-compelling-evidence-of-failure-of-supply-side-tax