Can you imagine if we had had JR Smith instead of Ginobili?

[hater]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.

He's got the talent, he just never had the determination. Maybe it was because he was in the shitty nuggets and Knicks. I remember Spurs were thinking about obtaining him and I was behind that move 100%. Once again. I was correct 100%.

In the right situation JR Smith is a top flight player.

can you imagine if we had had him instead of Ginobili???

:pctoss

[hater]

in before the "if we had Sessions instead of Porker" short bus

I agree, Porker sucked but this thread is about JR Smith and the possibility of having him over the old Argentine turd

[Mr. Body]

Smith is one of the streakiest motherfuckers in the league plus is kind of a hothead.

[hater]

when Cleveland made that underrated move I knew it was game changing for Cavs tbh.

a Kobe light at bottom dollar next to Kyrie and his gang. (oh and shumpert included, a JR Smith lite to go with it smh)

:pctoss

[spursparker9]

He was traded for Brent Barry.

Dammit but it was late for a few mins after the deadline

[hater]

He was traded for Brent Barry.

Dammit but it was late for a few mins after the deadline

seriously???

:pctoss

[Seventyniner]

He's a rich man's Nick Young. He was taking some horrible shots and hit them anyway.

[spursparker9]

seriously???

:pctoss

yeah. It happened in 2007 or 2008. I forgot

[AFBlue]

Streaky chucker with extreme lack of focus. I know Manu makes some boneheaded plays, but I'd much rather have him than Smith tbqh.

[ducks]

Smith is one of the streakiest motherfuckers in the league plus is kind of a hothead.

kind of like green minus the hothead

[Budkin]

seriously???

:pctoss

Yep, it was 2006. Here's the thread from SpursTalk:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35401

[ducks]

it was very close

[AFBlue]

kind of like green minus the hothead

Streaky like Green, but a much more dynamic offensive player. Though Green is the better defender by far when locked in.

[Spur-Addict]

kind of like green minus the hothead

Eh, one can create and one cannot. One can defend at an elite level, one can not. Some differences

[itsamanuthree]

Green>>Tony

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Not sure Pop would have had the patience for a J.R. Smith. Probably would have gone the way of SJax.

[Keepin' it real]

Can you imagine if we had JR Smith instead of Ginobili?

Can you imagine if we had Lebron James instead of Bonner?

See, I can play that game, too.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

:lmao

[ducks]

Not sure Pop would have had the patience for a J.R. Smith. Probably would have gone the way of SJax.
manu was wild back in the day

[Dex]

yeah. It happened in 2007 or 2008. I forgot

2006. Deal was so close that the Spurs told Barry not to board the plane for a road game...then were like "whoops nevermind."

[TheGreatYacht]

Nigga would've been a god like he is in Cleveland. All the clubs and hot groupies in NY messed him up, you don't have to worry about that here tbh.

Pop was okay with Neal, he would've been fine with J.R

[Spurs da champs]

Patty can be pretty wild as well, also look back at Gary Neal...

[ElNono]

If only JR could drive the OP home, tbh...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

manu was wild back in the day

There's a difference between wild and disrespecting what the team is trying to accomplish.

[Malik Hairston]

If only JR could drive the OP home, tbh...

:lmao

[ducks]

well pop was on board with getting jr smith

[Mr. Body]

kind of like green minus the hothead

Way streakiest, way less dependable, much worse defender. But, sure.

[AFBlue]

well pop was on board with getting jr smith

Right, because all he was going to give up was a spot-up shooter that couldn't defend a brick wall and had shrunken-nuts syndrome in crunch time. There was literally no downside, even if he busted. Either way, the guy is no Manu.

[hater]

kind of like green minus the hothead

Green is just a spot up shooter. He can't even dribble a basketball.

JR when he's on can make his own plays and is basically unguardable

[cjw]

yeah. It happened in 2007 or 2008. I forgot

Parker secretly pulled the cord out of the fax machine to keep the Barry's in town.

[hater]

I'm gonna go ahead and say if we had JR instead if Evita since 2012 we would be working on the 4peat tbh

Just putting that out there

[Robz4000]

If only JR could drive the OP home, tbh...

:rollin

[sexinthatsx]

I can't believe you're comparing JR Smith to Kobe. Get outta here lol

[sexinthatsx]

When Matthew Delladova scores 30 points the next game, are you gonna suck him off too?

[hater]

I can't believe you're comparing JR Smith to Kobe. Get outta here lol

JR has the talent of Kobe. He just parties too much and is .5% as dedicated. Still an on fire JR is as close to Kobe as can get

[hater]

When Matthew Delladova scores 30 points the next game, are you gonna suck him off too?

Delwho?

[Malik Hairston]

Saying JR Smith has unlimited talent is such a vanilla take, tbh:lol..

He's a great scorer when he's on..poor passer, average defender, doesn't do anything else at a high level..

He has been a nice role player in Cleveland, but nothing special..

[timtonymanu]

Considering who started this thread, I think JR Smith is going to disappear in the playoffs now.

[DarrinS]

We need another ball hogging chucker, tbh.

[AFBlue]

JR has the talent of Kobe. He just parties too much and is .5% as dedicated. Still an on fire JR is as close to Kobe as can get

Now I know you're trolling.

[dg7md]

You're right. The fact we've never really had a player with an edge has cost us many title chances. We would've won in 2013 if we kept SJax, but I understand no team wanted him at that point with his breakdown.

Our biggest fault is that we don't have a go-to scorer when we need a basket. These days we always have to rely on spot-up shooters to give us the edge back, when we need a Westbrook, JR Smith type person who can take over games and isn't afraid of taking big shots.

We have Patty, and he's as close as it gets to those guys, but Pop seems to hold him back sometimes.

[ducks]

Saying JR Smith has unlimited talent is such a vanilla take, tbh:lol..

He's a great scorer when he's on..poor passer, average defender, doesn't do anything else at a high level..

He has been a nice role player in Cleveland, but nothing special..
was last night

[TheGreatYacht]

You're right. The fact we've never really had a player with an edge has cost us many title chances. We would've won in 2013 if we kept SJax, but I understand no team wanted him at that point with his breakdown.

Our biggest fault is that we don't have a go-to scorer when we need a basket. These days we always have to rely on spot-up shooters to give us the edge back, when we need a Westbrook, JR Smith type person who can take over games and isn't afraid of taking big shots.

We have Patty, and he's as close as it gets to those guys, but Pop seems to hold him back sometimes.
This, tbh.

[ElNono]

You're right. The fact we've never really had a player with an edge has cost us many title chances. We would've won in 2013 if we kept SJax, but I understand no team wanted him at that point with his breakdown.

Our biggest fault is that we don't have a go-to scorer when we need a basket. These days we always have to rely on spot-up shooters to give us the edge back, when we need a Westbrook, JR Smith type person who can take over games and isn't afraid of taking big shots.

We have Patty, and he's as close as it gets to those guys, but Pop seems to hold him back sometimes.

We had SJax in 2012 and still couldn't get it done. JR was on the 2009 Nuggets team that made the WCF, and couldn't get it done either.

I'm a fan of gutsy guys, but there's a lot of BS mysticism around them, tbh... There's simply not a better recipe for success than playing well, as seen last year.

[RD2191]

jr is a trash chucker and takes stupid shots and a ridiculous amount of 3s. he isn't a recipe for success. sure he looks good now but he wont when he's bricking 3s in the finals. also east basketball is a joke so he can get away with his trash play out there.

[Maj_G]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.



:pctoss


Manu actually reached kobe levels. Their stats during the last 5min of a close game were pretty much same. That's a prime kobe, who many have argued was as good as Mike. So let me rehrase that, in last 5min of a game Kobe was 1a and Manu 1b in the ENTIRE LEAGUE currently JR SMITH is hardly top5. and that's reaching....

[itsamanuthree]

We need another ball hogging chucker, tbh.

[Maj_G]

in last 5min of a game,

I ll take KD over JR
I ll take Stephen Curry over JR
I ll take James Harden over JR
I ll take CP3 over JR
I ll take westbrook over JR

and that's the west, I am sure there are good players on the east as well :D

[100%duncan]

If only JR could drive the OP home, tbh...

:lol

[NASpurs]

If only JR could drive the OP home, tbh...

:lmao holy crap

[wildbill2u]

BALL DON'T LIE

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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
6.2
13.9
.450
2.0
5.4
.368
4.3
8.5
.502
4.8
5.8
.827
1.0
4.1
5.1
5.4
1.9
0.4
2.8
2.9
19.3


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
6.5
15.3
.424
2.6
7.1
.372
3.8
8.2
.469
2.4
3.3
.737
0.7
3.7
4.4
3.1
1.4
0.3
2.0
3.1
18.0



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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS

ORtg
DRtg


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
9.2
20.4
.450
2.9
7.9
.368
6.3
12.5
.502
7.1
8.5
.827
1.4
6.0
7.4
7.9
2.7
0.6
4.1
4.3
28.3

114
100


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
9.3
21.9
.424
3.8
10.2
.372
5.5
11.8
.469
3.5
4.7
.737
1.0
5.3
6.4
4.4
2.0
0.4
2.9
4.4
25.9

106
108



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Rk
Player
From
To
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
23135
21.1
.586
.387
.419
3.1
13.0
8.2
25.1
2.7
0.9
14.7
24.9

56.3
41.1
97.5
.202

4.2
1.3
5.5
43.9


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
20181
15.2
.538
.463
.214
2.3
12.0
7.1
14.6
2.0
0.6
10.8
23.5

21.1
17.7
38.8
.092

1.7
-1.3
0.4
12.3



a

[Mikeanaro]

BALL DON'T LIE

Per 36 Minutes

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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
6.2
13.9
.450
2.0
5.4
.368
4.3
8.5
.502
4.8
5.8
.827
1.0
4.1
5.1
5.4
1.9
0.4
2.8
2.9
19.3


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
6.5
15.3
.424
2.6
7.1
.372
3.8
8.2
.469
2.4
3.3
.737
0.7
3.7
4.4
3.1
1.4
0.3
2.0
3.1
18.0



Per 100 Poss

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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS

ORtg
DRtg


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
9.2
20.4
.450
2.9
7.9
.368
6.3
12.5
.502
7.1
8.5
.827
1.4
6.0
7.4
7.9
2.7
0.6
4.1
4.3
28.3

114
100


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
9.3
21.9
.424
3.8
10.2
.372
5.5
11.8
.469
3.5
4.7
.737
1.0
5.3
6.4
4.4
2.0
0.4
2.9
4.4
25.9

106
108



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Rk
Player
From
To
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
23135
21.1
.586
.387
.419
3.1
13.0
8.2
25.1
2.7
0.9
14.7
24.9

56.3
41.1
97.5
.202

4.2
1.3
5.5
43.9


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
20181
15.2
.538
.463
.214
2.3
12.0
7.1
14.6
2.0
0.6
10.8
23.5

21.1
17.7
38.8
.092

1.7
-1.3
0.4
12.3



a
I understand but bear in mind Smith had a good game yesterday and Manu wasnt even playing so JR is arguably the best player.:lol

[exstatic]

kind of like green minus the hothead

And no defense...

[TheGreatYacht]

We had SJax in 2012 and still couldn't get it done. JR was on the 2009 Nuggets team that made the WCF, and couldn't get it done either.

I'm a fan of gutsy guys, but there's a lot of BS mysticism around them, tbh... There's simply not a better recipe for success than playing well, as seen last year.
Lmao bad example. SJax was the only dude who showed up in 2012 G6 vs OKC, and should've started at SF if we're being real... He was also the second best player on the 2003 team.


http://youtu.be/Lm6hepN6L84

[TheGreatYacht]

BALL DON'T LIE

Per 36 Minutes

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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
6.2
13.9
.450
2.0
5.4
.368
4.3
8.5
.502
4.8
5.8
.827
1.0
4.1
5.1
5.4
1.9
0.4
2.8
2.9
19.3


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
6.5
15.3
.424
2.6
7.1
.372
3.8
8.2
.469
2.4
3.3
.737
0.7
3.7
4.4
3.1
1.4
0.3
2.0
3.1
18.0



Per 100 Poss

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Rk
Player
From
To
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS

ORtg
DRtg


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
349
23135
9.2
20.4
.450
2.9
7.9
.368
6.3
12.5
.502
7.1
8.5
.827
1.4
6.0
7.4
7.9
2.7
0.6
4.1
4.3
28.3

114
100


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
218
20181
9.3
21.9
.424
3.8
10.2
.372
5.5
11.8
.469
3.5
4.7
.737
1.0
5.3
6.4
4.4
2.0
0.4
2.9
4.4
25.9

106
108



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Rk
Player
From
To
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


1
Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
23135
21.1
.586
.387
.419
3.1
13.0
8.2
25.1
2.7
0.9
14.7
24.9

56.3
41.1
97.5
.202

4.2
1.3
5.5
43.9


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
20181
15.2
.538
.463
.214
2.3
12.0
7.1
14.6
2.0
0.6
10.8
23.5

21.1
17.7
38.8
.092

1.7
-1.3
0.4
12.3



a
Pretty similar stats, tbh. Considering one had Pop and the other had coaches like Derek Fisher, Mike Woodson, George Karl, etc.

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu > J.R

though.

[purist]

Jr smith would be the most hated spur on this forum, tbh

[therealtruth]

We already got Patty Mills that can shoot ridiculous like JR. Pops just needs to play him.

[hater]

Patty mills can't create his own shot and post up guys in the paint like JR tbqh

Mills is more like a bobby Jackson type player. JR when on is much more lethal

[hater]

Oh and yes Manu did reach Kobe levels. 10 years ago. That ship sailed long ago. Obviously this comparison is today and last 5 years

[hater]

Manu > J.R

though.

Not in the last 5 years

Point is. Instead of giving out Hispanic heritage award contracts. We should have concentrated on moving Manu for a better piece imo

[TheGreatYacht]

Not in the last 5 years

Point is. Instead of giving out Hispanic heritage award contracts. We should have concentrated on moving Manu for a better piece imo
:lol

I still think they should've played together, had the Spurs not wasted some of the money on scrubs like (Bonner 4/yr, Ayres .5MLE, etc) ... Shit I even would've given up fat head for him. Phil would never trade with us though that faggot.

Weren't the Spurs close to trading Green for J.R last year? As much as I love Smith's game, that was too much.

[TheCerebral1]

You want a chronic headache and dope smoking piece of trash over one of the better all around players in the last 15 years. Even at 50% Manu, I'd rather have him over Smith. The guy belongs in Cleveland. For as many games as he hits 8 3's, there are games where he's on the bench for an entire half.

[ElNono]

Lmao bad example. SJax was the only dude who showed up in 2012 G6 vs OKC, and should've started at SF if we're being real... He was also the second best player on the 2003 team.


http://youtu.be/Lm6hepN6L84

I remember that game, I love Jax. But it's actually a perfect example: he "showed up" and we still lost.

[sammy]

Considering who started this thread, I think JR Smith is going to disappear in the playoffs now.

So true! JR Smith is a chunker and crazy! Dude is nuts to want this crazy ass over Manu! No Manu no championships!

[Sean Cagney]

Right, because all he was going to give up was a spot-up shooter that couldn't defend a brick wall and had shrunken-nuts syndrome in crunch time. There was literally no downside, even if he busted. Either way, the guy is no Manu.

Barry played well for the Spurs if I am correct? He bailed Tony out big time in that 05 Finals that is for sure, took some minutes from him and played well when he started to shrink. I remember him lighting Phoenix up as well a few times. I liked Barry.

[Spurs9]

I wanted JR too tbh

[hater]

Damn JR with the vintage performance. Cavs closer tbh. Wish we had one

[therealtruth]

Lmao bad example. SJax was the only dude who showed up in 2012 G6 vs OKC, and should've started at SF if we're being real... He was also the second best player on the 2003 team.


http://youtu.be/Lm6hepN6L84

We cut him because he was intimidating Manu or DG? When your practice players can't push the starters how do you expect to improve?

[TheGreatYacht]

We cut him because he was intimidating Manu or DG? When your practice players can't push the starters how do you expect to improve?
Exactly. The worst part of it, was he got cut on Manu's worst year of his career. SJax could've took some of the load off him and Pop wouldn't of been forced to guard Mike Miller with Matt Bonner :lol

T-Mac curse was real in 6..

[Malik Hairston]

Stephen Jackson was probably one of the 5 worst players in the NBA in 2012-2013, tbh..you could argue that "he turns it on in the playoffs", but we all thought Horry would, too, after he was horrendous during the regular season in 2008, but in reality, he was just finished:lol..there's a reason Jackson couldn't stick anywhere else after the Spurs cut him..

[hater]

Manu was the worst player ever that game 6 and we still rewarded him with a Latino heritage contract tbqh

Smh

[kaji157]

We had three less rings

[Sean Cagney]

Stephen Jackson was probably one of the 5 worst players in the NBA in 2012-2013, tbh..you could argue that "he turns it on in the playoffs", but we all thought Horry would, too, after he was horrendous during the regular season in 2008, but in reality, he was just finished:lol..there's a reason Jackson couldn't stick anywhere else after the Spurs cut him..

You are correct, he was done. He was flat out horrible that year, shot was way off etc. There is a reason as you said he was out of bball.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Imagine if the Spurs had Jordan instead of Manu.....

Who gives a flyin' fuck. Enjoy the summer.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CF-4Y9pVIAALtZx.jpg

The GOAT

[hater]

Imagine if the Spurs had Jordan instead of Manu.....

Who gives a flyin' fuck. Enjoy the summer.

I am enjoying it

But doesn't hurt to reminisce on what coulda been

[DMC]

Maybe Tony would have been in the car, is that what you're saying? JR Smith is the facade that fools even his own team. He's the one who will make the stupid Tony Allen type mistake in a tight situation, get ejected or do something else that makes you scratch your head. Sure he's a willing three point shooter, but he's volatile. He'll do some amazing things, but one day you'll wake up to nothing.

[DMC]

Manu was the worst player ever that game 6 and we still rewarded him with a Latino heritage contract tbqh

Smh

That's because you don't judge an employee by one event when they have tenure and a proven track record.

[hater]

That's because you don't judge an employee by one event when they have tenure and a proven track record.

When the event is setting fire to the company head quarters I beg to differ.

[ElNono]

After bringing home #5, Gino was well worth that extension, tbh... hell, wouldn't be a stretch to say he was underpaid...

For all the great things JR Smith did this postseason with the Cavs, he still has to close the deal...

[Venti Quattro]

JR Smith would have a hard time adjusting with Pop and Duncan, just thinking about it. JR Swish is JR Swish because LeBron's style of plays allows him to be JR Swish.

[look_at_g_shred]

We'd have 4 less titles

[kaji157]

Manu was the worst player ever that game 6 and we still rewarded him with a Latino heritage contract tbqh

Smh

Ginobili´s last contract was right on spot, considering he got 14 million dollars for a very good year on out title run and a bad playoffs this year.

Not to say, he played all of our games during the crucial december schedule where he averaged over 20 points, more than 27 minutes of court time and that clearlly left him with nothing left for the postseason.

But if you think 14 million dollars for a player that was your main creator during round one and conference finals on a title year, had two great games in two of our 4 finals wins last year and also was one of the two main players in closing out Portland and Oklahoma i would say most franchises would be glad to pay that money to someonw who delivers all that during a two year span. Evendoe if it wasn´t enough to win b2b titles.

Let´s be clear on this one, we all know which players played below realistic expectations, and Ginobili was not one of them.

[Agloco]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.

He's got the talent, he just never had the determination. Maybe it was because he was in the shitty nuggets and Knicks. I remember Spurs were thinking about obtaining him and I was behind that move 100%. Once again. I was correct 100%.

In the right situation JR Smith is a top flight player.

can you imagine if we had had him instead of Ginobili???

:pctoss

Jfc

[timtonymanu]

Considering who started this thread, I think JR Smith is going to disappear in the playoffs now.

[Mikeanaro]

Here you have your results haty, a better thread should be ¨Can you imagine if we had Leron instead of Ginobili taking 40 shots a night?¨

[21209]

I'll take Manu the playmaker over JR the chucker any and everyday of the week.

[hater]

Jr still better than manu in the finals :lol

[td4mvp2k]

great thread... :td

[kaji157]

Jr still better than manu in the finals :lol

nope :lol

[Pocho La Pantera]

Jr still better than manu in the finals :lol
Yeah?? How many did he win?

[hater]

Teams win games imo.

Players try not to have 8 turnovers ihmo

[cjw]

J.R.'s fourth quarter and OT (also missed his only shot of the third):

10:02 - 3pt blocked by Iggy
5:26 - fouls Klay
3:47 - 3pt miss
0:24 - defensive rebound after Irving saved the day by blocking Steph

4:09 - 3pt miss
2:53 - 2pt miss
2:16 - 3pt miss
1:15 - fouls Draymond


No positive contributions in about 20 minutes of play. His shots generally weren't even close. The box score doesn't even account for his lazy defensive rotations or forgetting to foul bad FT shooters. When JR is off, everything's off.

I'll take Manu save the turnovers. Reason Smith doesn't turn the ball over is because he shoots as soon as he touches the ball though.

[hater]

J.R.'s fourth quarter and OT (also missed his only shot of the third):

10:02 - 3pt blocked by Iggy
5:26 - fouls Klay
3:47 - 3pt miss
0:24 - defensive rebound after Irving saved the day by blocking Steph

4:09 - 3pt miss
2:53 - 2pt miss
2:16 - 3pt miss
1:15 - fouls Draymond


No positive contributions in about 20 minutes of play. His shots generally weren't even close. The box score doesn't even account for his lazy defensive rotations or forgetting to foul bad FT shooters. When JR is off, everything's off.

I'll take Manu save the turnovers. Reason Smith doesn't turn the ball over is because he shoots as soon as he touches the ball though.

Still better than 6

[ducks]

james took the whole team out of rhythm with all the iso
he has to keep the others involved somewhat
TOO MUCH ISO
manu would have went cold also

[hater]

:lol

[Mr. Body]

JR Smith fucking sucks. He may win you one game in ten but he'll lose you three others.

[james evans]

haha, u still want jr smith now? haha

[cd98]

Backhanded compliment of the day: JR Smith sure looked great against Eastern Conference opponents.

[hater]

:lol

[ohmwrecker]

J.R. is a worthless, streaky regular season chucker. Never done nothing, ain't gon' do nothing.

[hater]

You supplant Manu with JR and we beat the Cripples tbh

[lefty]

BUMP


:lmao hater

[myhc]

JR SMITH giveth and taketh....LOL

[ducks]

He even fouls late like manu

[BatManu20]

Was just about to bump this. He's the worst player in the Finals so far and it's not even close :lol

[Malik Hairston]

JR Smith was an absolute embarrassment to the game of basketball tonight, tbh..

[timtonymanu]

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

My nigga J.R hate it had to be him :lmao

[ElNono]

JR Smith was an absolute embarrassment to the game of basketball tonight, tbh..

:lol luckily for the Cavs he fouled out...

[Sean Cagney]

JR Smith was an absolute embarrassment to the game of basketball tonight, tbh..Yep, he is a streak shooter and if he is off he is completely worthless it seems.

[sexinthatsx]

Nope. I can't imagine...

/thread

[lefty]

hater hiding :lol

[hater]

Jr causing havock in Worriers D. Shot great shots especially that 3 that put cavs up 12

Cavs don't win without him imo

Wish we had him

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Well, you can say he reached Kobe's level of the past two years the past two games. Basically was a no-show.

[wildbill2u]

This thread still open??? Manu will be in the Hall of Fame. J.R. Smith will be forgotten three years after he is cut from whatever team gives him his final days.

[hater]

JR is 3 wins away from winning it all without 2 of his big 3.

Manu has been fishing for weeks. :lol

[weeks]

just take the L and move on dude.

[cd98]

Manu is way better than JR Smith. Not even close. I'd rather have an old Manu over JR Smith.

[hater]

Manu is way better than JR Smith. Not even close. I'd rather have an old Manu over JR Smith.

Right now right now? Nah. Not even close. JR runs circles around Evita imo.

:lol at posters here trembling at the possibility of JR winning a title as the 2nd banana in his team

[cd98]

Right now right now? Nah. Not even close. JR runs circles around Evita imo.

:lol at posters here trembling at the possibility of JR winning a title as the 2nd banana in his team

No, I just don't like JR. Besides, he almost blew that game 4 times. TBH, until he dominates against the West, you are overating him. Manu would put up good numbers against Celts, Bulls, and Hawks.

[Malik Hairston]

That hater curse is extremely powerful, tbh:wow Parker, Belinelli, Steven Adams, JR Smith, the 2015 Spurs, the 2015 Warriors(reverse curse), Lebron before winning a title(reverse), 2014 Manu's redemption run(reverse), Danny Green(reverse) and probably many others have been victims/beneficiaries of the hater curse:lol..he's the Lil B of SpursTalk..

[ElNono]

:lol he said Tony sucks now... looking forward to a great season for Porky, tbh...

[DarrinS]

That hater curse is extremely powerful, tbh:wow Parker, Belinelli, Steven Adams, JR Smith, the 2015 Spurs, the 2015 Warriors(reverse curse), Lebron before winning a title(reverse), 2014 Manu's redemption run(reverse), Danny Green(reverse) and probably many others have been victims/beneficiaries of the hater curse:lol..he's the Lil B of SpursTalk..

:lol

[hater]

:lol short bus

Trembling at the possibility of JR being 2nd banana in the championship. While Manu contemplates retirement in a corner :lol

[Vic Petro]

Mozgov is clearly the 2nd banana right now.

[cd98]

:lol short bus

Trembling at the possibility of JR being 2nd banana in the championship. While Manu contemplates retirement in a corner :lol

JR is like 4th or 5th best player on Cavs., 7th if you include Love and Irving.

[hater]

JR is like 4th or 5th best player on Cavs., 7th if you include Love and Irving.

That would make Manu the 8th or 9th best player in that cavs team the

[cd98]

That would make Manu the 8th or 9th best player in that cavs team the

Well Manu has lost that killer instinct. JR is so killer, he'll even kill his friends.

[manufan10]

:lol Friend Killer single-handedly allowed the Warriors back into the game and a chance to win it.

[tholdren]

:lol short bus

Trembling at the possibility of JR being 2nd banana in the championship. While Manu contemplates retirement in a corner :lol

Not fucking close
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Player
From
To
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
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WS
WS/48

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Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
23135
21.1
.586
.387
.419
3.1
13.0
8.2
25.1
2.7
0.9
14.7
24.9

56.3
41.1
97.5
.202

4.2
1.3
5.5
43.9


2
J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
20181
15.2
.538
.463
.214
2.3
12.0
7.1
14.6
2.0
0.6
10.8
23.5

21.1
17.7
38.8
.092

1.7
-1.3
0.4
12.3



Then throw in the fact that smith goes to a 32 percent three point shooter in the playoffs, and... you got nothing.

[tholdren]

:lol Friend Killer single-handedly allowed the Warriors back into the game and a chance to win it.

This is the stuff that people dont understand... momentum-killer, fundamental-basketball-killer, win-killer, society-killer.... go back and hang out with melo

[ohmwrecker]

Sitting on the bench at the end of the game.

[look_at_g_shred]

Why does this thread exist?

[ducks]

Atleast it is not a tp hate thread
Or do they only have to be on first page

[Pocho La Pantera]

Not fucking close
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Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)
2003
2015
865
23135
21.1
.586
.387
.419
3.1
13.0
8.2
25.1
2.7
0.9
14.7
24.9

56.3
41.1
97.5
.202

4.2
1.3
5.5
43.9


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J.R. Smith (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html)
2005
2015
762
20181
15.2
.538
.463
.214
2.3
12.0
7.1
14.6
2.0
0.6
10.8
23.5

21.1
17.7
38.8
.092

1.7
-1.3
0.4
12.3



Then throw in the fact that smith goes to a 32 percent three point shooter in the playoffs, and... you got nothing.
Close thread

[Mikeanaro]

Smith the crackhead.

[Sean Cagney]

Close thread

Ginobilis stats from last years finals were great quiet as kept! He avenged himself and shot a very high % and got 14 and a half PPG, he mustered up one last big run in him to avenge that 013 finals. I would take that version of him any day over ANY JR Smith and he was late 30's.

[in2deep]

yes he was great last year, this year he was old.

I am not sure he has anything in the tank.

[TMTTRIO]

Maybe that's why Manu continued to say just yesterday that he's still unsure whether he wants to come back and play or not.

[hater]

JR as bad as he's been this finals still >>> manu


Not sure why fans here are up in arms about this thread tbh

[TMTTRIO]

get over it. It's a moot point now. Manu's probably retiring so it really doesn't matter now.

[Sean Cagney]

I would hope he is better than Manu at the moment since he is what 37? Even then he is not very good and a chucker who shoots a low % on his shots, not a guy you really want on your team tbh. I would chose a LOT of guys over Jr Smith TBH, Manu last year would be one but sadly his body is broken down now and he is older so it's not a fair comparison at this age.

[Budkin]

:lol well this thread sure took a shit on itself.

[Mikeanaro]

Its not working out.

[RD2191]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--61fg6gK3--/cjrg3b99zkl0hwp2cqbh.gif

[RD2191]

^OP in this thread.

[Mikeanaro]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--61fg6gK3--/cjrg3b99zkl0hwp2cqbh.gif
:lmao

[Mr. Body]

JR as bad as he's been this finals still >>> manu


Not sure why fans here are up in arms about this thread tbh

One of the stupidest people to ever use the Internet.

[Sean Cagney]

JR BRICK at it again tonight.


Manu's 2014 Finals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR's Finals this year and it's not even close.

[ElNono]

JR BRICK at it again tonight.

Manu's 2014 Finals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR's Finals this year and it's not even close.

:lol and JR is not even 30 yet...

where's that Andre Bell troll when you need him, tbh

[hater]

JR STILL better than Manu at this point tbh

Thread stands

[Dre_7]

:lol and JR is not even 30 yet...

:tu

What Manu has done in his late 30s is incredible! JR Smith probably won't even be playing NBA ball at age 36, let alone winning the NBA finals and dunking on 7 footers.

I am thankful for everything Manu has given the Spurs. He is the ultimate competitor.

[Sean Cagney]

JR STILL better than Manu at this point tbh

Thread standsNope, because you said the last 5 years and Manu was great last year in the playoffs and the finals.... With JR last year they might not even win it all when you think of it, Manu hit that huge shot against OKC and he had a great finals (JR has sucked these finals badly). This thread is fallacy, we are one ring or so less with JR Smith.

[hater]

Nope, because you said the last 5 years and Manu was great last year in the playoffs and
the finals.... With JR last year they might not even win it all when you think of it, Manu hit that huge shot against OKC and he had a great finals (JR has sucked these finals badly). This thread is fallacy, we are one ring or so less with JR Smith.

Just the fact that Manu cost us 2013 singlehandely, puts JR over the top.

But even ignoring that, I still take JR in 2010,2011 and 2012

And last year? We still win it all with JR

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Just the fact that Manu cost us 2013 singlehandely, puts JR over the top.

But even ignoring that, I still take JR in 2010,2011 and 2012

And last year? We still win it all with JR

How did Manu cost the Spurs in 2013. Spurs were up 5 with 28 seconds to go. Of his 8 TOs, I believe 6 were in the first half. You can easily blame Parker for his 6-23 shooting as well.

It was Pop who cost the Spurs in 2013 by taking out Duncan, the Spurs best rebounder and shot blocker out in the last two plays of the regulation. And in both plays, Miami got an offensive rebounding, something that wouldn't have happen if Duncan was in the game.

[hater]

^ go back and watch the game.

Manu joined the heat organization mid series and threw game 6. This has been well documented. Use google

[Sean Cagney]

How did Manu cost the Spurs in 2013. Spurs were up 5 with 28 seconds to go. Of his 8 TOs, I believe 6 were in the first half. You can easily blame Parker for his 6-23 shooting as well.

It was Pop who cost the Spurs in 2013 by taking out Duncan, the Spurs best rebounder and shot blocker out in the last two plays of the regulation. And in both plays, Miami got an offensive rebounding, something that wouldn't have happen if Duncan was in the game.Thank you, why this is ever over looked is beyond me. He had 17 boards for Gods sakes. Fts or a to aside that finals is on Pop imo.

[manufan10]

DggAXSv53Qc

[smeagol]

Can you imagine if we had had JR Smith instead of Ginobili?

Spurs would have two less rings . . . and no dynasty . . .

[ducks]

yes because no one would have stepted up and no one would have fouled dirk late

just like everyone said once david robinson left retired no more titles for spurs

[Sean Cagney]

yes because no one would have stepted up and no one would have fouled dirk late


WTF?????

[RD2191]

OP should be banned for having one of the shittiest takes of all time.

[Budkin]

:lmao

[Mugen]

:rollin

[myhc]

LOL NOW HITTING 2 3'S IN A ROW. LOL

[ElNono]

:lol classic thread, tbh

[RD2191]

a prime manu next to lebron would drop 30 on the dubs

[Mikeanaro]

Crackhead got nothing... except lots of crack.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Gtfo and take ducks with you. JR Smith:lol

[hater]

Sorry fellas 27% 3 pt shooting and 32% fg shooting with 4 tos a game in the 2013 finals and 8 TOs in the championship clincher is still worse than JR.

Gimme JR the last 5 years and we have at least 1 more

[itsamanuthree]

DggAXSv53Qc

OMG!!!!!! HAHAHA

[hater]

JR might be a fee agent. Do it RC and retire the Manu in the process imo

[manufan10]

614300090069581824
hater

[kaji157]

Sorry fellas 27% 3 pt shooting and 32% fg shooting with 4 tos a game in the 2013 finals and 8 TOs in the championship clincher is still worse than JR.

Gimme JR the last 5 years and we have at least 1 more

The fact that you have to post 3 or 4 times pare page is clear example that you are wrong.

By the way, five years ago Ginobili was killing it. And JR was, well... JR.

[hater]

Sorry fellas 27% 3 pt shooting and 32% fg shooting with 4 tos a game in the 2013 finals and 8 TOs in the championship clincher is still worse than JR.

Gimme JR the last 5 years and we have at least 1 more

[tholdren]

JR Smith is the only evidence you need in not supporting AAU, or new age NBA. Shoot it 1000 times, make one and celebrate like it's yo birfday

[smeagol]

Sorry fellas 27% 3 pt shooting and 32% fg shooting with 4 tos a game in the 2013 finals and 8 TOs in the championship clincher is still worse than JR.

Gimme JR the last 5 years and we have at least 1 more

:lol:lmao:lol

[kaji157]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120218191734/creepypasta/images/5/58/Please_Sir_Get_Off_The_Internet.jpg

[Man In Black]

JR. He's on all the time. ON DRUGS AND HYPE.

No discipline and you expect him to be disciplined once he gets here?

Stupid is as stupid does.

[hater]

JR officially a free agent homies :wow

Make it happen RC. Buy the ginobillys a one way ticket to Bahia Blanca

[illusioNtEk]

We should sign him bruh

[jermaine]

I think under Pop, he'd shine. Pop gives the green light to shooters. Plus J.R. even though he wet the bed, can shoot.

[RD2191]

JR is a fuckin cancer. Dude choked fucking hard in the Finals.

[gambit1990]

i've always hated jr. look at (just some) of his stupid fucking tattoos:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/69433d4ff741bdc376682f6ee61faa91/tumblr_inline_noknbgMlZB1qgt45b_500.jpg

[cd98]

Don't hate on JR. If he killed his best friend, imagine what he could do against opposing defenses.

[ElNono]

JR is ok as role player, just not what the Spurs need right now...

[hater]

We should sign him bruh

Yup.

We sign JR and we become favorites out West

[james evans]

anyone wanting jr smith on their team obviously have never seen this dude play over the course of a season. . I'm assuming they are being sold on that dunk he got over gary neal.

[daledondale]

OP likes nude boys.

[hater]

Yup.

We sign JR and we become favorites out West

[BillMc]

If somehow we got both JR and Boozer I might have to rethink my Spurs fandom...

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol JR Smith still doesn't have a contract, apparently he wants a 3-year deal, but nobody is biting..

[kaji157]

:lol JR Smith still doesn't have a contract, apparently he wants a 3-year deal, but nobody is biting..

If only hater owned a team...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Troll thread. JR is the anti-Spur.

[spursnatic]

Yeah, we would have a few less Rings IMO

[spursnatic]

However, wouldn't mind seeing him on a team with Manu on it also

[ohmwrecker]

:lol this thread

[KimmyGib]

Can you imagine if Lebron and the Cavs had Ginobili instead of JR Smith in the finals?

[ducks]

Manu would be injured blatt would have over played him

[bluebellmaniac]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.

He's got the talent, he just never had the determination. Maybe it was because he was in the shitty nuggets and Knicks. I remember Spurs were thinking about obtaining him and I was behind that move 100%. Once again. I was correct 100%.

In the right situation JR Smith is a top flight player.

can you imagine if we had had him instead of Ginobili???

:pctoss

I see the problem with your hypothesis, you are aiming too low. I fixed it for you...


I always said when Lebron James tries 100% he can reach Michael Jordan levels.

He's got the talent, he just never had the determination. Maybe it was because he was in the shitty cavaliers and Heat. I remember Spurs were thinking about obtaining him and I was behind that move 100%. Once again. I was correct 100%.

In the right situation Lebron James is a top flight player.

can you imagine if we had had him instead of Blair???

:pctoss

[hater]

He's still available!

This is great news for us. We can get a Manu replacement at a good price. Do it RC!

jR to the Spurs ASAP!

Tell Manu to go back to Mexico as his job has been filled by a real American citizen :lol

[Agloco]

Rofl @ this thread

[kaji157]

Manu would be injured blatt would have over played him

Nope because the most minutes would be played by Dellavedoba who i think is a great player for us to look in the future.
You put Ginobili in this years Cavs and they ring, basically because he would have been able to dose himself better as he had to play near 30 minutes per game during december.
Spurs had a lot of injuries, other than that Ginobili was playing even better than last year.

[ElNono]

He's still available!

crofl

[spursistan]

38yo gets probably begged by legend Timmy to join him in the last ride while his supposed replacement is left twisting in the free agency wind :rolleyes:

[bus driver]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha get a life man, seriouly hahahahahahahahahaha
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[Darkwaters]

For those that might have forgotten...

Spurs Nearly Grabbed J.R. Smith In Multi-Team Deal

Feb 24, 2006 2:21 PM

The Spurs nearly traded Brent Barry on Thursday afternoon in a multi-team deal that would have netted New Orleans guard J.R. Smith, two NBA sources said.

The deal was close enough to completion ? one opposing team executive said he had heard it was done ? that Spurs officials initially told Barry he might not need to board the team's charter flight here.

The deal unraveled near the league's 3 p.m. trade deadline, which was an hour before the Spurs were scheduled to depart. After Spurs coach Gregg Popovich told Barry the trade was dead, Barry accompanied the team here.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/176780/Spurs-Nearly-Grabbed-JR-Smith-In-Multi-Team-Deal

[WeaponX225]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously.

[HarlemHeat37]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously.

http://funnygifs.co/gifs/201408/throw-the-damn-towel-.gif

[TheGreatYacht]

38yo gets probably begged by legend Timmy to join him in the last ride while his supposed replacement is left twisting in the free agency wind :rolleyes:
Tim don't beg anybody foh

[ElNono]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously.

https://donttrysohard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/shaq-pwns-chris-dudley.gif

[bobcatfan4life]

This pretty much confirms Manu will have a great season,thanks hater.

[Capster]

Argentina Dork!!! And NO!!!
He's still available!

This is great news for us. We can get a Manu replacement at a good price. Do it RC!

jR to the Spurs ASAP!

Tell Manu to go back to Mexico as his job has been filled by a real American citizen :lol

[Capster]

Argentina Dork!!! And NO!!!

[itsamanuthree]

https://donttrysohard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/shaq-pwns-chris-dudley.gif

LLOL!

[spursistan]

I stumbled on this article from a 2014 with Mills quote on Manu during Finals game 5 timeout..Ginobili is on his very last legs, but his worth in intangibles is still intact and almost irreplacable for the Spurs at this point, much less by JR Smith-type of guys..Glad to have him back even for 15 mpg a night :tu


"There was a time out midway through the third quarter and it felt like there was an opportunity for us to take the game and Manu (Ginobili) had sensed the same thing," Mills said."As soon as he sat down he started screaming at everyone, picture him screaming in an exaggerated way, - "this is our moment, it’s right now, it’s right now, we need to do this, it’s right now” - I will never forget that moment..


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/patty-mills-reflects-on-nba-championship-glory-with-san-antonio-spurs-20140618-zsd3y.html#ixzz3gC6t8h4q

[Spurtacular]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.

Which levels? Brick quotas? Or did you mean over-the-hill Kobe?

[daledondale]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE

[ElNono]

I stumbled on this article from a 2014 with Mills quote on Manu during Finals game 5 timeout..Ginobili is on his very last legs, but his worth in intangibles is still intact and almost irreplacable for the Spurs at this point, much less by JR Smith-type of guys..Glad to have him back even for 15 mpg a night :tu

good post, tbh

[Pocho La Pantera]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously. perfect.

[Doctor J]

Were you dropped on you're head as a baby? Did you sniff glue as a child? Like how ignorant are you? You can't possibly be serious about having JR Smith over Manu Ginobili, one guy has won 4 NBA championships, an Olympic Gold Medal in which his country defeated the USA, won countless championship's overseas in Europe, the other guy is a bum who has NEVER won anything, who has went from team to team because he is a bum, & has a tattoo on his back that say's ''Klowning'', seriously? Klowning? Yeah like his NBA career.

While Ginobili is 1 of the greatest basketball player's to ever play the game & was winning championships, JR Smith is too busy untying player's shoe laces at the FT line & getting F'd up at the club. Obviously this is a major attempt at a troll job & tbh you get a 0/10 for it. BTW saying he should be sent back to Mexico? Really? That just show's how ignorant & racist you really are, low class scum tbh, I bet while Ginobili was bringing the Spurs back in Game 5 vs the Heat in 2014 by hitting 3 after 3, dishing out dimes to Patty & Kawhi, dunking all over Bosh, you were somewhere booing him & not cheering you're Spurs on because you're hate of a single player overrides the Spurs winning. It's quite pathetic honestly, it's a shame you are a Spurs fan because any decent Spurs fan can respect the blood sweat & tear's Ginobili has shed all for our San Antonio Spurs. You have taken for granted what Ginobili has brought to this team & that's all on you for being a hater like you're account name is.

BTW if you're so right on this, why did the Spurs bring back 38 year old Ginobili? Why not just tell him go retire & go sign the all great JR Smith? Ill tell you why, because you're wrong, that would be completely & utterly IDIOTIC in every sense of the word which you have displayed for us obviously.

I love you weaponx225!

[SpursOwn]

This thread is proof that trolling still works. It also proves losers with 20,000+ posts aren't better than the new guy with 100 posts.


Damn this nerd has to be a virgin and for his sake, I hope he is.

[Man In Black]

What's hilarious is that JR Smith had a players option of 6.4 Million and he opted out. Now he is still a free agent. If he's Kobe level if he applied himself, then how in the hell can he still be a free agent? ANSWER, he's not as good as Hater thinks him to be.

Hater...Seriously? What were you smoking?:smokin

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/19/j-r-smith-is-still-a-free-agent-about-to-take-a-healthy-pay-cut/

[daledondale]

OP likes human's cigars.

[From Downtown]

Yeah,we'd have 4 less rings...

[hater]

I always said when JR Smith tries 100% he can reach Kobe levels.

He's got the talent, he just never had the determination. Maybe it was because he was in the shitty nuggets and Knicks. I remember Spurs were thinking about obtaining him and I was behind that move 100%. Once again. I was correct 100%.

In the right situation JR Smith is a top flight player.

can you imagine if we had had him instead of Ginobili???

:pctoss


On point. Once again

[tholdren]

On point. Once again
If you'd rather have arrest records than rings, yep, on point.

[UZER]

If you'd rather have arrest records than rings, yep, on point.

And one less friend.

[hater]

got damn!!! :wow

"I'd rather take a contested shot than an open shot any day," Smith said. "It's kind of boring when you take open shots."

[in2deep]

got damn!!! :wow

"I'd rather take a contested shot than an open shot any day," Smith said. "It's kind of boring when you take open shots."


this real??

[Diego20]

got damn!!! :wow

"I'd rather take a contested shot than an open shot any day," Smith said. "It's kind of boring when you take open shots."

so he's a stupid, great.

[ElNono]

he could drive Porky to practice... maybe not a bad idea after all...

[NASpurs]

he could drive Porky to practice... maybe not a bad idea after all...:lmao cold fucking blooded

[hater]

Bump