The Eastern Conference is the most pathetic conference in all of sports in any era

[Thebesteva]

Sons, I've never seen this in my life. For the last 5 years, every team outside of whatever team Lebron is in is a D-league team. Every single series is a crap shoot outside of whatever team Lebron is in. No matter how shitty I've seen the NFL's AFC or NFC be its never been a cakewalk, nor the NHL's conferences, or previous years in the NBA. This is the first time it's literally a cakewalk for any team that is half decent which only happens to be the Cavs.

In the 90's, the Western Conference was pretty pathetic and I remember all the EC fans saying it will be decades before the West wins a title. But there were still a decent level of competition like the Rockets of Hakeem's era, Clyde's Blazers, Karls Jazz, and Del Harris' Lakers. But this is just different, it's like any B+ level team can easily go to the top to the NBA finals.

You have to hand it to dad killer, he won 6 times in an era where the Eastern Conference was stacked. No bull shit, those teams in the East were nothing to fuck with.

[RD2191]

I agree which is why anything lebron does doesn't impress me much.

[Clipper Nation]

You have to hand it to dad killer, he won 6 times in an era where the Eastern Conference was stacked.

We gonna act like DK didn't need one of the most stacked teams in the history of sports and one of the greatest coaches in history to ring?

:lol DK on the Bulls without MVPippen to carry him: 108-138 record, 2-9 playoffs
:lol Meanwhile, LeBron is dragging the likes of Friend Killer, James Jones, and Dellavedova to the Finals

[Malik Hairston]

Magic's Lakers routinely played in some of the worst conferences in league history from what I've heard..nobody remembers the circumstances of winning, tbh..

[Thebesteva]

We gonna act like DK didn't need one of the most stacked teams in the history of sports and one of the greatest coaches in history to ring?

:lol DK on the Bulls without MVPippen to carry him: 108-138 record, 2-9 playoffs
:lol Meanwhile, LeBron is dragging the likes of Friend Killer, James Jones, and Dellavedova to the Finals

I still give Lebron props for dragging this team to the finals. Im just stating the obvious. The Eastern Conference is in horrific shape right now. How easily would this years Clippers have made it to the ECF? Quite easily

[Thebesteva]

Magic's Lakers routinely played in some of the worst conferences in league history from what I've heard..nobody remembers the circumstances of winning, tbh..

LOL yeah

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The Cavs look mighty capable to me, Eve.

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Magic's Lakers routinely played in some of the worst conferences in league history from what I've heard..nobody remembers the circumstances of winning, tbh..

..I do.

[Malik Hairston]

..I do.

I have never heard any analyst downplay Magic's rings, or downplay Duncan's lockout ring, or Kobe winning when KG got hurt in 2009, etc..nobody gives a fuck about how you win, as long as you do, sports fans and media are pretty stupid, tbh..

Only pussies and assholes blame injuries and lockouts and conference difficilty and officiating

[Clipper Nation]

Magic's Lakers routinely played in some of the worst conferences in league history from what I've heard..nobody remembers the circumstances of winning, tbh..
Just look at some of the murderers' rows that the Showtime Lakers had to go through:

1983-84: Kings (38-44), Mavs (43-39), Suns (41-41)
1984-85: Suns (36-46), Blazers (42-40), Nuggets (52-30, but played absolutely no defense even by '80s standards)
1985-86: Spurs (35-47), Mavs (44-38), Rockets (51-31; first time they played anything close to a legit team in years and they lost in 5)
1986-87: Nuggets (37-45), Warriors (42-40), Sonics (39-43) - easily the most pathetic road to a title in the history of the NBA, probably even in the history of sports
1987-88: Got to play a Spurs team that was 20 games under .500 in the first round :lmao

:cry "But, but, LeBron deserves an asterisk because the East is so weak!" :cry

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Only pussies and assholes blame injuries and lockouts and conference difficilty and officiating

I said it first. Me

[Malik Hairston]

Just look at some of the murderers' rows that the Showtime Lakers had to go through:

1983-84: Kings (38-44), Mavs (43-39), Suns (41-41)
1984-85: Suns (36-46), Blazers (42-40), Nuggets (52-30, but played absolutely no defense even by '80s standards)
1985-86: Spurs (35-47), Mavs (44-38), Rockets (51-31; first time they played anything close to a legit team in years and they lost in 5)
1986-87: Nuggets (37-45), Warriors (42-40), Sonics (39-43) - easily the most pathetic road to a title in the history of the NBA, probably even in the history of sports
1987-88: Got to play a Spurs team that was 20 games under .500 in the first round :lmao

:cry "But, but, LeBron deserves an asterisk because the East is so weak!" :cry

Wasnt the 80s East stacked with great teams, too IIRC?

[Clipper Nation]

Wasnt the 80s East stacked with great teams, too IIRC?

Yeah, at least the Celtics had to face the Sixers, Hawks, and Bucks.

[Thebesteva]

Just look at some of the murderers' rows that the Showtime Lakers had to go through:

1983-84: Kings (38-44), Mavs (43-39), Suns (41-41)
1984-85: Suns (36-46), Blazers (42-40), Nuggets (52-30, but played absolutely no defense even by '80s standards)
1985-86: Spurs (35-47), Mavs (44-38), Rockets (51-31; first time they played anything close to a legit team in years and they lost in 5)
1986-87: Nuggets (37-45), Warriors (42-40), Sonics (39-43) - easily the most pathetic road to a title in the history of the NBA, probably even in the history of sports
1987-88: Got to play a Spurs team that was 20 games under .500 in the first round :lmao

:cry "But, but, LeBron deserves an asterisk because the East is so weak!" :cry

I dont think Lebron deserves criticism tbh, he's on another level. I think he's a great player, I think more of my point was that the Eastern Conference is depressing to watch now. It used to be worth while to watch but now its like basically watching a bunch of pigs waiting for the butcher (Lebron) to arrive.

[Infinite_limit]

2000-2002

Sixers, Nets & Nets was worse

[Malik Hairston]

2000-2002

Sixers, Nets & Nets was worse

Ya, 2003, as well, I think people forget how bad those Eastern Conferences were:lol..

[Splits]

Has there ever been a shittier Finals roster than this?

http://i.imgur.com/8HXNMTx.png

[Sean Cagney]

Yeah, at least the Celtics had to face the Sixers, Hawks, and Bucks.

Dont forget that Pistons team later on.

[Silver&Black]

I know it's a "division" and not a conference but:

Shout out to the NFC South.

[Infinite_limit]

Has there ever been a shittier Finals roster than this?

http://i.imgur.com/8HXNMTx.png

Iverson's Sixers is the measuring stick I use. They actually traded Kukoc to acquire Ratliff after Mutombo went down

Toni went on to average 19.7 PPG on a blistering 48% from 3point in the final 17 games of the season on the Hawks




Magic team
- Alston & Nelson PG combo
- Lee & Redick SG combo
- Turk with long Pietrus on defense
- Gortat, Howard, Lewis spreading the floor


I like the team. Thought they blew the Lee layup gimmie and then Fisher elbow not called. That series should have gone 7

[~O~]

Iverson's Sixers is the measuring stick I use. They actually traded Kukoc to acquire Ratliff after Mutombo went down

Toni went on to average 19.7 PPG on a blistering 48% from 3point in the final 17 games of the season on the Hawks




Magic team
- Alston & Nelson PG combo
- Lee & Redick SG combo
- Turk with long Pietrus on defense
- Gortat, Howard, Lewis spreading the floor


I like the team. Thought they blew the Lee layup gimmie and then Fisher elbow not called. That series should have gone 7

Splits was baiting. Thank god you knew what that Magic team was all about.


Everyone should also know that team set a record for most three's in a game; 23. Nelson was also literally the rest of the 42 games..plus playoffs. Most of all, that team eliminated LeBron James in the so called best season the Cavaliers had, 66-16. Had that team been retained plus the acquisition of Carter with a combo of Hedo, that team would have been dominant. But...Hedo wanted cash.

All those players were part of a revolutionary system......the stretch four. The Magic made that what it is today with Rashard playing that role. Stan Van Gundy created that system for the Magic. Now its been perfected by the major coaches and teams. Even LeBron utilizes it himself. Hedo Turkoglu played the role that LeBron played when Hedo was with the Magic. He was the facilitator and even played point for the Magic. LeBron is just a billionaire's version of Hedo Turkoglu. That's it.

The Heat used Rashard in a similar role on the Heat and the Cav's are using Love for that exact role. Of course the casual fans will always impulsively say "Magic had to be the worst...'Insert'" because when you want to blurt ignorant condescending bullshit about random team, it won't be a team that won it all or isn't in a major market, that's for sure.

[midnightpulp]

It's pretty shitty, but if Lebron beats what is looking like a historically great Warriors team (who aren't having much trouble in the Western Conference), that's a ironclad legit title. Much like the Showtime Lakers. They feasted on garbage teams in the West, but still had to face some great teams in the Finals.

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The Cavs look mighty capable to me, Eve.

Me too, old man, & Blatt goin' thru Georgia like Sherman (man & tank) has been a revelation.

[midnightpulp]

Me too, old man, & Blatt goin' thru Georgia like Sherman (man & tank) has been a revelation.

Look at ya, brand new suit looking like a million bucks. Hometown about to scratch, eh?

Just make sure Jose Mesa ain't within a state of Quicken Loans.

[baseline bum]

Sons, I've never seen this in my life. For the last 5 years, every team outside of whatever team Lebron is in is a D-league team. Every single series is a crap shoot outside of whatever team Lebron is in. No matter how shitty I've seen the NFL's AFC or NFC be its never been a cakewalk, nor the NHL's conferences, or previous years in the NBA. This is the first time it's literally a cakewalk for any team that is half decent which only happens to be the Cavs.

In the 90's, the Western Conference was pretty pathetic and I remember all the EC fans saying it will be decades before the West wins a title. But there were still a decent level of competition like the Rockets of Hakeem's era, Clyde's Blazers, Karls Jazz, and Del Harris' Lakers. But this is just different, it's like any B+ level team can easily go to the top to the NBA finals.

You have to hand it to dad killer, he won 6 times in an era where the Eastern Conference was stacked. No bull shit, those teams in the East were nothing to fuck with.

Stacked? No fucking way, New York was shit and led by a choker and Indiana didn't get that good until 1998. Detroit fell off a cliff after 90-91. Orlando was good for two years before Shaq left, but one of those was baseball year for dad killer. If NY made the Finals in 92 or 93 they would have gotten waxed by Portland or Phoenix. No way any East team other than Chicago beats the 96 Sonics. Then the Heat in the late 90s were the same as NY in the early 90s, no offense and led by chokers. I think Indy beats Utah in 98, but Miami in 97? I doubt it.

[baseline bum]

Has there ever been a shittier Finals roster than this?

http://i.imgur.com/8HXNMTx.png

Worst Finals team I have ever seen was the 02 Nets. Point guard with no jump shot, Kittles was a pretty average shooting guard, Van Horn and Jefferson at the 3, bust Martin at the four, then Magic's son and some honkey stiff at center. Plus horrible coaching, Kidd said his retard big headed son TJ could manage timeouts better.

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Look at ya, brand new suit looking like a million bucks. Hometown about to scratch, eh?

& Blatt will be the coach. Let's see Media amortize that fact.

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Worst Finals team I have ever seen was the 02 Nets. Point guard with no jump shot, Kittles was a pretty average shooting guard, Van Horn and Jefferson at the 3, bust Martin at the four, then Magic's son and some honkey stiff at center. Plus horrible coaching, Kidd said his retard big headed son TJ could manage timeouts better.

Shit, you had your '13 Finals opponent beat, your 5th in the case, your Title gear on the television.

ha, ha.

[midnightpulp]

Shit, you had your '13 Finals opponent beat, your 5th in the case, your Title gear on the television.

ha, ha.

No room. Costas was there in the locker-room, babysitting the champagne cart, you and yours was getting ready to pop corks.

And then...

Jose Mesa

[da_suns_fan]

The 07 Cavs were significantly worse.

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No room. Costas was there in the locker-room, babysitting the champagne cart, you and yours was getting ready to pop corks.

And then...

Jose Mesa

But, yours was in the case. They were selling your shit.

[The Gemini Method]

I know it's a "division" and not a conference but:

Shout out to the NFC South. Double Shout-out to the NFC West where my beloved Seahawks won the division as a 7-9 record! Lol Saints! F that nigga Pelican

[Clipper Nation]

But, yours was in the case. They were selling your shit.
Billups

Pierce

[baseline bum]

The 07 Cavs were significantly worse.

Are you pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep them?

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Billups

Pierce

They were selling your shit.

[baseline bum]

They were selling your shit.

Are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs?

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Are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs?





They were selling your shit.

[Clipper Nation]

They were selling your shit.
They were selling your shit, then Bryant made them recall it and replace it with the other team's shit.

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They were selling your shit, then Bryant made them recall it and replace it with the other team's shit.

They were selling your shit.

[baseline bum]

They were selling your shit.

Bit I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

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Bit I still want to know. are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs?


I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[Clipper Nation]

They were selling your shit.
They were selling your shit, then Bryant yanked it from the shelves.

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They were selling your shit, then Bryant yanked it from the shelves.

They were selling your shit.

[baseline bum]

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

[Clipper Nation]

They were selling your shit.
They were selling your shit, then Bryant donated it to Africa.

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They were selling your shit, then Bryant donated it to Africa.

They were selling your shit.

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But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[AlexJones]

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

How fast do you type?

[baseline bum]

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.
But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

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How fast do you type?

60 WPM

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But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.


I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[baseline bum]

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.
But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

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^

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[DPG21920]

Keep going Baseline. Thread is old and will die before you so you will win. He will go to the grave as a loser :lol

[baseline bum]

Keep going Baseline. Thread is old and will die before you so you will win. He will go to the grave as a loser :lol

Like his Suns

[DPG21920]

:lmao

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Keep going Baseline. Thread is old and will die before you so you will win. He will go to the grave as a loser :lol

lmvictoriousao!!!

[baseline bum]

lmvictoriousao!!!
But I still want to know, are you also pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep the 07 Cavs? You could have been standing here at 1&46.

[Caltex2]

Just look at some of the murderers' rows that the Showtime Lakers had to go through:

1983-84: Kings (38-44), Mavs (43-39), Suns (41-41)
1984-85: Suns (36-46), Blazers (42-40), Nuggets (52-30, but played absolutely no defense even by '80s standards)
1985-86: Spurs (35-47), Mavs (44-38), Rockets (51-31; first time they played anything close to a legit team in years and they lost in 5)
1986-87: Nuggets (37-45), Warriors (42-40), Sonics (39-43) - easily the most pathetic road to a title in the history of the NBA, probably even in the history of sports
1987-88: Got to play a Spurs team that was 20 games under .500 in the first round :lmao

:cry "But, but, LeBron deserves an asterisk because the East is so weak!" :cry

You pointed out that they lost to a legit Rockets team in '86, heck the only other time they didn't go to the Finals in the 80's was when they LOST to a 40-42 Rockets team in 1981. That team had Moses Malone on them but come on, that should have been easy work. To be fair to the Showtime Lakers though, NBA teams were deeper back then before a slew of 6 expansion teams came into the league in 7 years, including 4 at the end of the 80's.


It's pretty shitty, but if Lebron beats what is looking like a historically great Warriors team (who aren't having much trouble in the Western Conference), that's a ironclad legit title. Much like the Showtime Lakers. They feasted on garbage teams in the West, but still had to face some great teams in the Finals.

LOL, that remains to be seen. It's not as if the Warriors blew out the Rockets in either game. They defended the homecourt, which is what you're supposed to do.

[AlexJones]

60 WPM

At 62 years old? What was the number in your prime?

[LkrFan]

We gonna act like DK didn't need one of the most stacked teams in the history of sports and one of the greatest coaches in history to ring?

:lol DK on the Bulls without MVPippen to carry him: 108-138 record, 2-9 playoffs
:lol Meanwhile, LeBron is dragging the likes of Friend Killer, James Jones, and Dellavedova to the Finals

That's some funny as shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

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At 62 years old? What was the number in your prime?

75.

[Alex's foreskin]

Jesus Christ Clipper bitch is unoriginal.

[da_suns_fan]

Are you pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep them?

Calling it how I see it.

The Cavs had no business in the Finals. This is why no one watched (lowest rated finals in history).

[baseline bum]

Calling it how I see it.

The Cavs had no business in the Finals. This is why no one watched (lowest rated finals in history).

But are you pissed Nash's flop might have cost you the chance to sweep them?