View Full Version : NBA: 2015 Warriors vs. 1996 Bulls
mavsfan1000
05-24-2015, 03:35 AM
Who wins? I think the Warriors. And this coming from someone who watch the Bulls back then. If the Warriors go undefeated for the rest of the playoffs, I think that proves even more how unbeatable they are
If you factor in the conditioning part, no doubt the warriors.
Venti Quattro
05-24-2015, 04:06 AM
Hold on they haven't won a title yet. Let's slow down with the ridiculous comparisons.
Hold on they haven't won a title yet. Let's slow down with the ridiculous comparisons.
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 07:36 AM
You fucking guys are ridiculous....today's NBA is weak compared to the 90s...Steph for as good as he is would not have been able to play in the 90s. Period. He's the product of a pussified league and thats coming from somone who loves Steph...
The Grizzles already showed how to beat them..get up in them, be physical and make them work on the other end...the Warriors thought they were gonna lose that series vs the Griz...the Griz had them beat but mysteriously just stopped executing their game plan....and let GSW creep back in it....
I'm probably a rare breed of person on the planet that knows this team is very limited if you know how to exploit matchups and comparing this team to the 96 Bulls means at a base level you're just retarded....there is no comparison...those were men back then these are boys....this is what frustrates me about Spurtalk fan you guys try and act like you know basketball when you CLEARLY dont.
MJ would have mind fucked Steph into oblivion....Pip would have mind fucked Clay into the Abyss....and who....who in the FUCK would have dealt with Rodman?
This is like when MJ said LeBron was good but nowhere close to his level Why? Because strength of competition. Who's guarding Lebron as he puts up stats? No one...the league is weak and MJ is SPOT ON....same with Curry...these guys aren't playing anyone in a no hand check era...so of course they look all world....I'm just not buying into the modern day hype....it's a pussified league....the 80s and 90s were the golden years of the NBA...with a revital by Shaq and Kobe....after that its no longer the same....the last team to 3 peat closed out the NBAs golden manhood years
I wish you morons would stop with the retardedness....shit gets old...go read a book because yall are clueless when it comes to basketball
TampaDude
05-24-2015, 07:46 AM
You fucking guys are ridiculous....today's NBA is weak compared to the 90s...Steph for as good as he is would not have been able to play in the 90s. Period. He's the product of a pussified league and thats coming from somone who loves Steph...
The Grizzles already showed how to beat them..get up in them, be physical and make them work on the other end...the Warriors thought they were gonna lose that series vs the Griz...the Griz had them beat but mysteriously just stopped executing their game plan....and let GSW creep back in it....
I'm probably a rare breed of person on the planet that knows this team is very limited if you know how to exploit matchups and comparing this team to the 96 Bulls means at a base level you're just retarded....there is no comparison...those were men back then these are boys....this is what frustrates me about Spurtalk fan you guys try and act like you know basketball when you CLEARLY dont.
MJ would have mind fucked Steph into oblivion....Pip would have mind fucked Clay into the Abyss....and who....who in the FUCK would have dealt with Rodman?
This is like when MJ said LeBron was good but nowhere close to his level Why? Because strength of competition. Who's guarding Lebron as he puts up stats? No one...the league is weak and MJ is SPOT ON....same with Curry...these guys aren't playing anyone in a no hand check era...so of course they look all world....I'm just not buying into the modern day hype....it's a pussified league....the 80s and 90s were the golden years of the NBA...with a revital by Shaq and Kobe....after that its no longer the same....the last team to 3 peat closed out the NBAs golden manhood years
I wish you morons would stop with the retardedness....shit gets old...go read a book because yall are clueless when it comes to basketball
You're an idiot.
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 07:51 AM
You're an idiot.
Throughout history. The commoner and laymen used to always say this to people like Jesus, Plato, Socrates, Galileo, Einstein, and now Kool...
TampaDude
05-24-2015, 07:57 AM
Throughout history. The commoner and laymen used to always say this to people like Jesus, Plato, Socrates, Galileo, Einstein, and now Kool...
Except this time the people are right. You ARE an idiot. :lol
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 08:09 AM
Except this time the people are right. You ARE an idiot. :lol
You cant disprove a fucking word I said in this thread....you morons dont know the game...and it's pretty fucking easy to see....go ahead sissy boy huff and puff about me not knowing my shit....I'm spot the fuck on....there is no comparison....all the hype is for the media and sheeple fans like you looking to be entertained while being purposely ignorant or trying to white wash history....
Malik Hairston
05-24-2015, 08:21 AM
Warriors in 5, probably..realistically, Harrison Barnes would probably be a top 3-5 wing player that the Bulls ever faced during their title runs IIRC:lol..
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 08:24 AM
Warriors in 5, probably..realistically, Harrison Barnes would probably be a top 3-5 wing player that the Bulls ever faced during their title runs IIRC:lol..
He would catch diarrhea or either become constipated at the first site of Dennis Rodman :lol
RsxPiimp
05-24-2015, 08:30 AM
I actually think the Warriors wins in 6. I'd pick any of the pre 96 Bulls over the Warriors though.
TampaDude
05-24-2015, 08:36 AM
You cant disprove a fucking word I said in this thread....you morons dont know the game...and it's pretty fucking easy to see....go ahead sissy boy huff and puff about me not knowing my shit....I'm spot the fuck on....there is no comparison....all the hype is for the media and sheeple fans like you looking to be entertained while being purposely ignorant or trying to white wash history....
You ASSume a lot, but that's just in your nature, NPD boy. :lol
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 08:46 AM
I actually think the Warriors wins in 6. I'd pick any of the pre 96 Bulls over the Warriors though.
I just dont think you guys know basketball at all....it wouldnt even be close...these warriors are up against historically weak teams...when Grizzs Did play even a little tough Defense on them they folded...and didnt have an answer....I think its a massive breach to even put them in the same breath as MJs Bulls....Clay is weak mentally and so is Barnes they're just playing in a leauge that is a finesse league...Curry would foul out trying to guard MJ....all day long MJ would post him up all over the court..its not even a fair comparison....and Pippen on Clay and Barnes....are you fucking kidding me...Pip was one of the grestest defenders of alltime in fact hes top 5....and then theres the grestest defensive player all time in Dennis.....I just dont get it..are you guys smoking crack:lol i ask that sincerely
jeebus
05-24-2015, 09:00 AM
The Warriors are going against a Rocket team that shouldn't have made it out of the 1st round and definitely not out of the 2nd. Just because they're beating the shit out of Coward and Mental Midget Harden doesn't mean they'd beat GOAT.
RsxPiimp
05-24-2015, 09:10 AM
I just dont think you guys know basketball at all....it wouldnt even be close...these warriors are up against historically weak teams...when Grizzs Did play even a little tough Defense on them they folded...and didnt have an answer....I think its a massive breach to even put them in the same breath as MJs Bulls....Clay is weak mentally and so is Barnes they're just playing in a leauge that is a finesse league...Curry would foul out trying to guard MJ....all day long MJ would post him up all over the court..its not even a fair comparison....and Pippen on Clay and Barnes....are you fucking kidding me...Pip was one of the grestest defenders of alltime in fact hes top 5....and then theres the grestest defensive player all time in Dennis.....I just dont get it..are you guys smoking crack:lol i ask that sincerely
Honestly, you do make a point and a lot of the newer generation basketball fans do take intangibles for granted since the implementation of advance stats has took the sport by storm. 96 Bulls was no joke, they swept Orlando, Miami and beat the Sonics in 6.
But from an eye test, I just think the Warriors are deeper and the 96-98 Bulls haven't faced an offense like it. Chicago has faced a lot of 1-2 punch teams in the late 90's and when they finally faced a balanced team with a strong general on the sideline (Pacers) they almost lost the series in 7. The Dubs are ridiculously well balanced and their best player is shooting the lights out en route to having another historic season.
I think the 91-93 Bulls would fare better, Jordan and Pippen we're on their athletic prime who can hang with the younger Warriors.
Koolaid_Man
05-24-2015, 10:20 AM
Honestly, you do make a point and a lot of the newer generation basketball fans do take intangibles for granted since the implementation of advance stats has took the sport by storm. 96 Bulls was no joke, they swept Orlando, Miami and beat the Sonics in 6.
But from an eye test, I just think the Warriors are deeper and the 96-98 Bulls haven't faced an offense like it. Chicago has faced a lot of 1-2 punch teams in the late 90's and when they finally faced a balanced team with a strong general on the sideline (Pacers) they almost lost the series in 7. The Dubs are ridiculously well balanced and their best player is shooting the lights out en route to having another historic season.
I think the 91-93 Bulls would fare better, Jordan and Pippen we're on their athletic prime who can hang with the younger Warriors.
There really is no such thing as an eye test in this comparison....sure Curry would have scored points because he's a shooter...any shooter can score....but he would have been severely outmatched mentally and physically against MJ...hes just too small to stand with MJ whereas conversely MJ would have guarded him quite well...
And just stop for a second and think about what you're saying...in what world is Clay Thompson and Harrison Barnes better than Rodman and Pippen? :lol Clay and Barnes are babies man...its not even fair to them to make the ccomparison....
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05-24-2015, 10:24 AM
The Warriors are going against a Rocket team that shouldn't have made it out of the 1st round and definitely not out of the 2nd. Just because they're beating the shit out of Coward and Mental Midget Harden doesn't mean they'd beat GOAT.
Jeebs, you fucked up. A milk run had you managed to stay upright in Los Angeles.
Your first repeat comin',,,comin' hard.
Green and bogut are a lot better than rodman and whatever Chicago had at center. Curry is a thousand times better than what Chicago had at pg. sure there's mj and pippen but the warriors are more efficient on offense and actually very good defensively. Also golden state has a depth advantage.
teams today are just different, basketball has evolved. Threes or getting to the rim is better basketball than the midrange game. Defensive schemes have improved. It's no longer about stopping a guy 1 on 1.
Hold on they haven't won a title yet. Let's slow down with the ridiculous comparisons.
there are so many teams I can name better than this year's warriors. Last year's Spurs is an easy start.
You've got to be kidding. Bulls wouldn't have any problem with them.
lefty
05-24-2015, 10:12 PM
You've got to be kidding. Bulls wouldn't have any problem with them.
Bulls were better in their era. They crushed the competition. But put them in a time machine and bring them to today and they wouldn't be as dominant just because so much has changed.
hitmanyr2k
05-24-2015, 10:20 PM
I understand the Warriors are feasting on a poorly coached, low IQ Rockets team that plays no defense whatsoever but Chicago's defense was on another level and they just had insane athleticism, b-ball IQ and length to cover the floor. The shortest guy in the starting lineup was 6'6. The Bulls were always at a disadvantage offensively when it came to the other team's point guard but it never seemed to matter.
Chicago's defense was on another level
Refs wouldn't let them play defense like that today
It depends. Are we playing by 90s' or modern rules, ref, etc?
Two, do you allow the Bulls to train and adjust for modern time? Do you allow them to make some change to role players to better match up to the league. Nothing earth shattering but just common sense.
If Chicago controls the pace and imposes their defense i think jordan could dominate and curry would shrink.
If the warriors control the pace and curry gets ref protection then it's probably them.
I understand the Warriors are feasting on a poorly coached, low IQ Rockets team that plays no defense whatsoever but Chicago's defense was on another level and they just had insane athleticism, b-ball IQ and length to cover the floor. The shortest guy in the starting lineup was 6'6. The Bulls were always at a disadvantage offensively when it came to the other team's point guard but it never seemed to matter.
That's right. If those Bulls played these Warriors -- think the final games of the Spurs vs. the Warriors this year. A full on rout.
Franklin
05-24-2015, 10:52 PM
Agree with m>s, it kinda explains why teams who shoot many midrange jumpers have all fallen short early on in the playoffs this year imho, while teams that play a monkeyball + 3pt shooting game have advanced rather far. Monta is a mediocre 3pt shooter, Dirk and Parsons are OK at the 3pt line but they ain't elites either. We're in urgent need for a reliable 3pt shooter like Korver or Reddick tbh.
Duncanforthree
05-25-2015, 06:25 AM
You fucking guys are ridiculous....today's NBA is weak compared to the 90s...Steph for as good as he is would not have been able to play in the 90s. Period. He's the product of a pussified league and thats coming from somone who loves Steph...
The Spurs already showed how to beat them...
FIFY.
Call the Spurs pussies,cucks,faggots,whatever. They were the only team that the Warriors were worried about.
The Spurs fucked up and now the Warriors have to pray they don't run into them next year when they try and repeat.
Koolaid_Man
05-25-2015, 07:08 AM
FIFY.
Call the Spurs pussies,cucks,faggots,whatever. They were the only team that the Warriors were worried about.
The Spurs fucked up and now the Warriors have to pray they don't run into them next year when they try and repeat.
:lol you just worry about the Clippers homie
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05-25-2015, 09:17 AM
:lol you just worry about the Clippers homie
Yeah, uh,,,,,,homie.
ambchang
05-25-2015, 10:32 AM
The reason the Warriors are so dominant is because of the change in perimeter defense that allowed teams to drive and shoot.
Play in today's league, the Bulls will be crushed.
Play in the 90s, the Warriors will be crushed.
Infinite_limit
05-25-2015, 01:21 PM
Bulls in 5 games
The perimeter would get locked up
Caltex2
05-25-2015, 01:28 PM
The Warriors would lose in 6 like everyone else except the Lakers in '91.
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