Truth Nuke in 5....4....3...2

[Thebesteva]

:lol:rollin

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[baseline bum]

Robert Horry 28

[spurraider21]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao

[midnightpulp]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao

Logic killshot.

[baseline bum]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao

:lol Armenian wins the thread

[Donkeybong]

thats a telling stat though. Just goes to show you of Kobe's greatness. 5 chips that were hard earned. No leastern conference there.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lol Armenian wins the thread

OP is Armenian too.

[midnightpulp]

thats a telling stat though. Just goes to show you of Kobe's greatness. 5 chips that were hard earned. No leastern conference there.

But Shaq was the leader for half those wins.

[Donkeybong]

But Shaq was the leader for half those wins.

co-leader

[DMC]

You can only eliminate who you're playing against. Lebron will be in his 5th straight Finals. If it was that easy others would have done it more often.

[DMC]

co-leader
Doesn't say that on the MVP trophy.

[dg7md]

thats a telling stat though. Just goes to show you of Kobe's greatness. 5 chips that were hard earned. No leastern conference there.

Does Kobe threepeat without Shaq?

Not saying Kobe isn't elite, he's easily a top 10 all-time player, but I think the fact LeBron has carried teams to the success he has as pretty remarkable and he's a more skilled player than any other person on that list regardless of where he stacks all-time in that manner. Look at what happened to the Cavs and Heat once he left those teams, they got dismantled and didn't make the playoffs.

Yes, I will say that the eastern conference is weak as hell and any of the top 8 teams in the west could have made it to the ECF easily, but using this picture to try to make it seem like Kobe is better than LeBron is weak.

[Bynumite]

Even Jim playing in the same era and conference doesn't have as much as Kobe Bean :lol

[midnightpulp]

co-leader

Stats don't support that. Sorry.

[baseline bum]

Even Jim playing in the same era and conference doesn't have as much as Kobe Bean :lol

Nor as many lottery appearances.

[midnightpulp]

Even Jim playing in the same era and conference doesn't have as much as Kobe Bean :lol

He's got an equal amount of titles, more Finals MVPs, more playoff wins and individual records, and better stats.

May want to rethink that again.

[RsxPiimp]

Stats don't support that. Sorry.

Led the Lakers WS in 2001. Was also the best player in WCF.

[midnightpulp]

Led the Lakers WS in 2001. Was also the best player in WCF.

Pau Gasol led the Lakers in WS in '10.

Still want to go with the WS line?

[SpursPreacher]

That number is still shocking to me. I know you can only play who you get matched up with and falls into your backet but still. It just shows how horrid the east has been.

[DMC]

Led the Lakers WS in 2001. Was also the best player in WCF.
So he's the WCF MVP... You can have that. I think Danny Green or Boris was ours.

[RsxPiimp]

Pau Gasol led the Lakers in WS in '10.

Still want to go with the WS line?
Pau was more valuable than Kobe in 2010. So, it's consistent.

[Thebesteva]

Look at all those Spurs fans coming to LeBronze aid

[DMC]

Look at all those Spurs fans coming to LeBronze aid
Look at all the little brown slopes trying to prop up the carcass of their false god.

[Thebesteva]

Game 6 is my last game here :cry.

[midnightpulp]

Pau was more valuable than Kobe in 2010. So, it's consistent.

Least you admit it. I admire that (for the record, I don't buy WS as a be-all, end all, though).

[LkrFan]

He's got an equal amount of titles, more Finals MVPs, more playoff wins and individual records, and better stats.

May want to rethink that again.

Are you factoring in Olympic Medalry? :downspin:

[midnightpulp]

Are you factoring in Olympic Medalry? :downspin:

No. FIBA accomplishments are minor league achievements, like counting homers hit in AAA in the MLB.

[LkrFan]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao

No, because the WC playoff teams all usually win 50 games. Can't think of one year in the last 20 years whereas a WC playoff team didn't win 50 just to make it to the dance. That means the WC was competitive so whoever made it out had to be really good. And if a player 3peated as world champion AND 3peated again as WC champs (culminating in 2 more rangs), that player is badass. Especially when you factor in 2 more international championships (AKA Gold Medals and no Bronze Medals :toast).

:)

[LkrFan]

Logic killshot.Not really. The Hawks won 60 but still got beatdown :lol

[midnightpulp]

No, because the WC playoff teams all usually win 50 games. Can't think of one year in the last 20 years whereas a WC playoff team didn't win 50 just to make it to the dance. That means the WC was competitive so whoever made it out had to be really good. And if a player 3peated as world champion AND 3peated again as WC champs (culminating in 2 more rangs), that player is badass. Especially when you factor in 2 more international championships (AKA Gold Medals and no Bronze Medals :toast).

:)

Shaq and Gasol were pretty badass :toast

One of your rare takes that is accurate.

[LkrFan]

SMH :lol

[Malik Hairston]

Poster on RealGM looked it up:

What kind of stupid stat is this?

First of all, they didn't count his 2 wins over 50 pace win teams (i.e. .609 or better) in the strike shortened season 3 years ago. That makes the total 9, not 7. You can't penalize LeBron for the season being shortened.

Second, as I mentioned earlier, LeBron is 30 and hasn't played the finals yet the season he turned 30. If you cut it off there, the totals are:

Jordan: 10
LeBron: 9 (10 if you count the 49 win pacers team who had a game canceled)
Bird: 9

That's not as interesting of a stat to show, though, huh?



:lol Kobe fan desperately searching for anything, at this point, tbh..

[Malik Hairston]

Also, top 5 defense opponents:

Lebron- 16 in 10 playoff runs(still going)
DK- 16 in 12 playoff runs(retired)
Kobe- 14 in 13 playoff runs(will probably never play in a playoff game again)

[Koolaid_Man]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao


Hey moron...to disagree with that chart is to disagree with the greatness of your own team..you and mid are like dumb and dumber :lol

[ambchang]

Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?

[Thread]

Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?

At least 1 5 years ago.

[benefactor]

so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer :lmao
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[Buddy Mignon]

This one is a kick in the nuts. No wonder Spurs fans are staying away from this thread. How is it that Jim has played in more playoffs series than Kobe, yet Kobe has beat 6 more teams? Not to mention... 4 of those teams were Jim led.

[Buddy Mignon]

Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?

You guys coined it... we're just adding on to it.

[Thebesteva]

Its not a coincedence at this point. Lebron would barely be able to survive the 1st round much less get to conference finals if he was in the West. His entire bread and butter is stamping his automatic finals ticket because he's a very great player in the weakest conference in sports history. He gets to the finals and just has to beat 1 legit team year after year and he can't even do that.

Unless he has Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Battier, Birdman off the bench as well as Mike Miller :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Its not a coincedence at this point. Lebron would barely be able to survive the 1st round much less get to conference finals if he was in the West. His entire bread and butter is stamping his automatic finals ticket because he's a very great player in the weakest conference in sports history. He gets to the finals and just has to beat 1 legit team year after year and he can't even do that.

Unless he has Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Battier, Birdman off the bench as well as Mike Miller :lol

This is precisely why I dont give him credit....the other thing is he's never as tired as people say..look at where Ohio is on the US map..travel to and from each conference is much easier on him than it is for teams further east or fuurther west

[Thebesteva]

This is precisely why I dont give him credit....the other thing is he's never as tired as people say..look at where Ohio is on the US map..travel to and from each conference is much easier on him than it is for teams further east or fuurther west

If LeBronze was in the western conference, he wouldnt be in the finals 4 years in a row u can bet on that

[spurraider21]

if lebron was on a western conference team, that means he had a better team around him. he was undermanned and GSW was the best team in the league all year... both reg season and playoffs. GSW was supposed to win even if cavs were fully healthy tbh