Official fallout 4 watch thread

[Kyle Orton]

Bethesda just added a countdown to the fallout website. Something will be announced tomorrow morning and they also have a panel at E3 too

im hyped bitches

[ElNono]

:hungry:

[AlexJones]

Dark Souls 3 announcement too

[ElNono]

Lnn2rJpjar4

:wow just take my money

[baseline bum]

Lnn2rJpjar4

:wow just take my money

OK, I haven't played any of the Fallout games, but this looks awesome. Are 1, 2, and 3 must plays before this comes out? (assuming it gets a November release for the Christmas season) They're all pretty cheap on Steam. 3 looks like a must for sure, but how about 1 and 2?

[ElNono]

OK, I haven't played any of the Fallout games, but this looks awesome. Are 1, 2, and 3 must plays before this comes out? (assuming it gets a November release for the Christmas season) They're all pretty cheap on Steam.

Fallout 1 and 2 are not 3D, but isometric. They have, IMO, the bests scripts, including some of the best dark humor you're going to find, and depending on the choices you make throughout the game, at the end it will tell you what happened afterwards based on those decisions (you know, like movies that tell you what happened with the characters afterwards). That's really what made them a classic, besides the post-apocaliptic atmosphere. They're really 10 out of 10 games if you can excuse the visuals compared to nowadays.

I mean, this is the intro to Fallout 1:

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Dunno if you have to play them through before Fallout 4, but at least playing some Fallout 1 will give you a good background about the Vaults, Vault-Tec, and a lot of the memes in the game, etc...

[baseline bum]

Fallout 1 and 2 are not 3D, but isometric. They have, IMO, the bests scripts, including some of the best dark humor you're going to find, and depending on the choices you make throughout the game, at the end it will tell you what happened afterwards based on those decisions (you know, like movies that tell you what happened with the characters afterwards). That's really what made them a classic, besides the post-apocaliptic atmosphere. They're really 10 out of 10 games if you can excuse the visuals compared to nowadays.

I mean, this is the intro to Fallout 1:

WkBNKa2KXZE

Dunno if you have to play them through before Fallout 4, but at least playing some Fallout 1 will give you a good background about the Vaults, Vault-Tec, and a lot of the memes in the game, etc...

Looks pretty awesome. I still love playing Age of Empires 2 and Diablo II, so I don't mind the isometric perspective if the game is awesome. Are these epic length games like Elder Scrolls though? Those kind of games usually take me months to finish. I think I played Dragon Age Inquisition for like 3 months without even touching another game, and I think Skyrim took me even longer. :lol

[ElNono]

Looks pretty awesome. I still love playing Age of Empires 2 and Diablo II, so I don't mind the isometric perspective if the game is awesome. Are these epic length games like Elder Scrolls though? Those kind of games usually take me months to finish. I think I played Dragon Age Inquisition for like 3 months without even touching another game, and I think Skyrim took me even longer. :lol

They can be long. Also, forgot to mention that the combat is turn-based. Not sure how you feel about that. If you do play them, save often! There's no autosave, IIRC.

For something more modern you can go with Fallout 3, but I feel while the game is good, the storyline isn't as great, tbh...

[ElNono]

BTW, Fallout 2 is basically an improved Fallout 1, mostly on the gameplay interface and a much larger world. It's a bit harder when you start than Fallout 1. But it has a lot of fun shit, like becoming "chem reliant" if you do drugs, more sex options, you can become a porn star, etc... That's kinda the stuff that they watered down in Fallout 3, tbh.

[baseline bum]

BTW, Fallout 2 is basically an improved Fallout 1, mostly on the gameplay interface and a much larger world. It's a bit harder when you start than Fallout 1. But it has a lot of fun shit, like becoming "chem reliant" if you do drugs, more sex options, you can become a porn star, etc... That's kinda the stuff that they watered down in Fallout 3, tbh.

Damn I forgot there is Fallout New Vegas. At this rate I might be ready to play Fallout 4 in early 2017 lol.

[DJR210]

Damn I forgot there is Fallout New Vegas. At this rate I might be ready to play Fallout 4 in early 2017 lol.

Fallout NV has a shit load of mods too, check the Nexus.

[Trainwreck2100]

That fucking dog better be invincible

[AlexJones]

This is next gen?

[DJR210]

This is next gen?

Console crap

[vander]

hallelujah! though the trailer was kinda disappointing.

[baseline bum]

Fallout 1 and 2 are not 3D, but isometric. They have, IMO, the bests scripts, including some of the best dark humor you're going to find, and depending on the choices you make throughout the game, at the end it will tell you what happened afterwards based on those decisions (you know, like movies that tell you what happened with the characters afterwards). That's really what made them a classic, besides the post-apocaliptic atmosphere. They're really 10 out of 10 games if you can excuse the visuals compared to nowadays.

I mean, this is the intro to Fallout 1:

WkBNKa2KXZE

Dunno if you have to play them through before Fallout 4, but at least playing some Fallout 1 will give you a good background about the Vaults, Vault-Tec, and a lot of the memes in the game, etc...

The view is pretty hard to get used to actually. I'll be walking through the vault and there's three people to talk to completely hidden by the wall.

[ElNono]

The view is pretty hard to get used to actually. I'll be walking through the vault and there's three people to talk to completely hidden by the wall.

Back in the day it was the shit, tbh.... one of the first games to be 640 by 480

I actually downloaded Fallout 1 to play it again at some point...

[Trainwreck2100]

Back in the day it was the shit, tbh.... one of the first games to be 640 by 480

I actually downloaded Fallout 1 to play it again at some point...

Good luck with that, the backlog is real

[baseline bum]

Back in the day it was the shit, tbh.... one of the first games to be 640 by 480

I actually downloaded Fallout 1 to play it again at some point...

I played for about 30 minutes before the game today. Shooting rats in a cave has to be about the most uneventful opening I have ever seen for a game, but the reviews make it sound awesome so I'll definitely put a few more hours into it.

[Kyle Orton]

I just fucking came. Holy FUCK

[baseline bum]

Lnn2rJpjar4

:wow just take my money

I thought you got your games from piratebay

[ElNono]

I thought you got your games from piratebay

I def support the devs that deserve it

[ElNono]

Just saw the vids on IGN.... fap fap fap

[Strange Love]

.....................wrong thread.

[ElNono]

lmao @ the real Pip Boy

[ElNono]

crofl at the poorsung fanbois foaming at the mouth that Fallout Shelter launched iOS only... pretty cool game, actually

[AlexJones]

Fucking christ.. didn't want to believe in Todd again but the nigga has sold me on this game.. there's just something about him :lol

[Kyle Orton]

Fucking christ.. didn't want to believe in Todd again but the nigga has sold me on this game.. there's just something about him :lol
Nigga knows how to work an audience tbh, the lines he said built up hype throughout the presentation and it was very well put together. Bethesda is legit

sons I'm pumped about creating a settlement and trading and shit. Looks badass

[baseline bum]

Back in the day it was the shit, tbh.... one of the first games to be 640 by 480

I actually downloaded Fallout 1 to play it again at some point...

Damn, this has ended up being a pretty fucking awesome game so far. Sad to hear it's only about 20 hours though.

[ElNono]

Damn, this has ended up being a pretty fucking awesome game so far. Sad to hear it's only about 20 hours though.

There's always Fallout 2.... don't even bother with Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel...

[redzero]

Anybody try the Tale of Two Wastelands mod that combines 3 with New Vegas? I might restart 3 again just to play the mod.

[baseline bum]

There's always Fallout 2.... don't even bother with Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel...

Fucking hell, I got a ways into the game never needing to do targeted shots, and now that I need them I find out I can't do them because I picked "Fast Shot" at the beginning of the game.

:pctoss

Awesome fucking game. Speaking of isometric view games, have you ever played Shadowrun on the SNES? I fucking loved that game in the 90s.

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[ElNono]

Fucking hell, I got a ways into the game never needing to do targeted shots, and now that I need them I find out I can't do them because I picked "Fast Shot" at the beginning of the game.

:pctoss

Awesome fucking game. Speaking of isometric view games, have you ever played Shadowrun on the SNES? I fucking loved that game in the 90s.

uMXa28_mGWk

lol VATS is one of best things in the game...

I did play Shadowrun back in the day... great game...

[baseline bum]

lol VATS is one of best things in the game...

I did play Shadowrun back in the day... great game...

I'll remember to never pick Fast Shot again in the sequels. :lol

Got raped by the Deathclaw without it, went through like 5 or 6 stimpaks.

[ElNono]

I'll remember to never pick Fast Shot again in the sequels. :lol

Got raped by the Deathclaw without it, went through like 5 or 6 stimpaks.

You can still see all the gore during criticals though, right? that's kickass

[DJR210]

Any of you faggots play Wasteland 2? I always see it mentioned in the same sentence as the original Fallout.. Game is fun, but god damn, how many fucking times am I gonna miss point blank shots? :lol

[DJR210]

..and speaking of VATS.. nothing better than blowing a defenseless homeless man's head into gibs in Kyle Anderson.

[baseline bum]

You can still see all the gore during criticals though, right? that's kickass

Now Kane is raping me when I try to take he and Decker out. Fast shot fucking blows.

[ElNono]

Now Kane is raping me when I try to take he and Decker out. Fast shot fucking blows.

tbh, I just tried running Fallout 1 and I was having some video issues, turns out there's a high resolution mod out there.

http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout1_High_Resolution_Patch

After installing it, I can run it at 1980 x 1200 no prob.

[baseline bum]

tbh, I just tried running Fallout 1 and I was having some video issues, turns out there's a high resolution mod out there.

http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout1_High_Resolution_Patch

After installing it, I can run it at 1980 x 1200 no prob.

I have lots of old games installed so I have oldschool DirectX shit on my system too, and the game runs for me in the original 640x480. I always like running old games native instead of with hires texture packs. Fucking Kane is a bitch, I had to shoot him with an RPG and then got lucky when the dog tackled him. Otherwise he takes 5 stimpacks and punches me 4 times before it's my fucking turn. :lol

[IronMexican]

Hey fagots. For someone who has never built a pc, and would love to have my pc instantly connect to my TV streaming, should I get a steambox?

[DJR210]

Hey fagots. For someone who has never built a pc, and would love to have my pc instantly connect to my TV streaming, should I get a steambox?

Only faggots are gonna purchase a Steam Box.. It's overpriced, underpowered crap. Watch a couple videos on YouTube, and you're good to go.. Building a PC is not as hard as you might think.

Once you have the PC setup in whatever room you like, get this shit and you're good to go.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SE6MoOJu--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/t6fbtscypvuz2eawaddb.jpg

http://store.steampowered.com/universe/link

[IronMexican]

All right man.

[DJR210]

Smh console faggots continuing to hold back gaming..

Bethesda confirms Fallout 4 will run at "1080p 30 FPS on Xbox PS4 and PC".. Looks like Fallout is gonna be ultra cinematic for you console assholes :lol

:lol thank you mods

[vander]

Smh console faggots continuing to hold back gaming..

Bethesda confirms Fallout 4 will run at "1080p 30 FPS on Xbox PS4 and PC".. Looks like Fallout is gonna be ultra cinematic for you console assholes :lol

:lol thank you mods

how many PC gamers have have 1440p+ Monitors (and perfect+ vision) and rigs that can do that resolution at >30fps?
and how many of these elite PC gamers will buy multiple copies of the game? or even one copy?

what I do find unforgivable though is the clunky controls when it's a console game on a PC, I think the last 3 or 4 games I've played have all been like that, awful.

[DJR210]

how many PC gamers have have 1440p+ Monitors (and perfect+ vision) and rigs that can do that resolution at >30fps?
and how many of these elite PC gamers will buy multiple copies of the game? or even one copy?

what I do find unforgivable though is the clunky controls when it's a console game on a PC, I think the last 3 or 4 games I've played have all been like that, awful.

I don't get what you're trying to ask in the first part, but my beef isn't over resolution, I'm still on 1080p myself. 30 FPS looks like dog shit, you don't need immaculate vision to see that.

And what do are you rambling about with controls? You use an Xbox or Dual shock controller on whatever console port you want, that's your bad for trying to play ports with a mouse and keyboard :lol

[baseline bum]

I don't get what you're trying to ask in the first part, but my beef isn't over resolution, I'm still on 1080p myself. 30 FPS looks like dog shit, you don't need immaculate vision to see that.

And what do are you rambling about with controls? You use an Xbox or Dual shock controller on whatever console port you want, that's your bad for trying to play ports with a mouse and keyboard :lol

I can't imagine they'll release with a 30 fps cap on pc, probably some dumbass in PR was repeating the console settings.

[baseline bum]

how many PC gamers have have 1440p+ Monitors (and perfect+ vision) and rigs that can do that resolution at >30fps?
and how many of these elite PC gamers will buy multiple copies of the game? or even one copy?

what I do find unforgivable though is the clunky controls when it's a console game on a PC, I think the last 3 or 4 games I've played have all been like that, awful.

An old ass 7970 from 2012 can do 30 fps at 1600p on GTA V, you don't need a Titan X for that. Hell, a $240 R9 290 gets way above that.

http://cdn.overclock.net/e/e7/e7a1662a_http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Grand_Theft_Auto_V_-test-2-GTA5_2560_1.jpeg

[DJR210]

I can't imagine they'll release with a 30 fps cap on pc, probably some dumbass in PR was repeating the console settings.

Yeah, I agree. Either way it should be a simple .ini tweak or something to unlock it.

[baseline bum]

tbh, I just tried running Fallout 1 and I was having some video issues, turns out there's a high resolution mod out there.

http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout1_High_Resolution_Patch

After installing it, I can run it at 1980 x 1200 no prob.

Just finished it, and damn, Fallout 1 is pretty fucking great. Sucks I couldn't save the ghouls though, I ran back to the vault with the water chip and before I could get back to fix their water pump the mutants came and raped everyone. I thought I saved the Hub too, but they got mutant raped also. So Fallout 2 is even better?

[ElNono]

Just finished it, and damn, Fallout 1 is pretty fucking great. Sucks I couldn't save the ghouls though, I ran back to the vault with the water chip and before I could get back to fix their water pump the mutants came and raped everyone. I thought I saved the Hub too, but they got mutant raped also. So Fallout 2 is even better?

Yeah, IMO, it is... the "Take All" button is already huge, tbh :lol

[baseline bum]

Yeah, IMO, it is... the "Take All" button is already huge, tbh :lol

So do you consider 2 the high water mark of the series? Do similar strategies work? E.g., putting points into small guns early on and then energy weapons late in the game? I'll definitely not pick Fast Shot this time so I can do the targeted shots.

[ElNono]

So do you consider 2 the high water mark of the series? Do similar strategies work? E.g., putting points into small guns early on and then energy weapons late in the game? I'll definitely not pick Fast Shot this time so I can do the targeted shots.

I do consider Fallout 2 the best in the series, but it's not a HUGE difference from 1, it's more a refined upgrade, with it's own great story. Couldn't tell you about strategy, I haven't played them in a while.

[baseline bum]

I do consider Fallout 2 the best in the series, but it's not a HUGE difference from 1, it's more a refined upgrade, with it's own great story. Couldn't tell you about strategy, I haven't played them in a while.

Shit, I didn't know you needed patches to get kids to show up in the first two games.

[DJR210]

So if I understand the lineage correctly, Wasteland 2 is the spiritual successor to Fallout 1, but they had issues with the rights to the Fallout name?

[baseline bum]

I do consider Fallout 2 the best in the series, but it's not a HUGE difference from 1, it's more a refined upgrade, with it's own great story. Couldn't tell you about strategy, I haven't played them in a while.

Fallout 2 really is shitty at the beginning tbh. Try to kick a gecko, miss 2/3 to 3/4 of the time, run 5 squares, he catches up, try to kick the gecko, miss 2/3 to 3/4 of the time, run 5 squares, rinse and repeat.

[baseline bum]

Nevermind, 2 definitely gets better after really sucking at the very beginning.

[ElNono]

Nevermind, 2 definitely gets better after really sucking at the very beginning.

Yah, Fallout 2 is a slow starter... stick with it though, it's pretty great

[baseline bum]

Yah, Fallout 2 is a slow starter... stick with it though, it's pretty great

Damn this crashes a lot. Nineties software is barely better than nineties basketball tbh.

[ElNono]

Damn this crashes a lot. Nineties software is barely better than nineties basketball tbh.

don't remember a lot of crashes, but then again, I played the PC version back when win 95 was the shit... I replayed it a couple of times on a Mac...

[baseline bum]

don't remember a lot of crashes, but then again, I played the PC version back when win 95 was the shit... I replayed it a couple of times on a Mac...

Prob just used to the crashes in Windows 95, seemed like that shit OS bluescreened daily.

[ElNono]

Prob just used to the crashes in Windows 95, seemed like that shit OS bluescreened daily.

Yeah, XP was so superior in that aspect, and when you think about it, XP was shit compared to windows 7 or 8...

[baseline bum]

Prob just used to the crashes in Windows 95, seemed like that shit OS bluescreened daily.

Arrrggh, this game is fucking unplayable, I keep having random crashes in the toxic caves. Got this off GOG patched to 1.02. Now I guess I have to try the fan made patches I guess, which means I have to start the fucking game over. :pctoss

I'll try it in Windows 98 compatibility mode instead of XP and see if that does anything first though.

[ElNono]

is that the GOG version or the Steam version?

[baseline bum]

is that the GOG version or the Steam version?

GOG. Turns out the crashes look to be because of a high res patch I installed, turning off one of the scalers fixed it.

There is no way to check your radiation level without a Geiger counter, right?

[ElNono]

GOG. Turns out the crashes look to be because of a high res patch I installed, turning off one of the scalers fixed it.

There is no way to check your radiation level without a Geiger counter, right?

Yeah, but unless your SPECIAL stats start to go down, it won't kill you. That said, pack up some Rad-Aways and you should be ok.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, but unless your SPECIAL stats start to go down, it won't kill you. That said, pack up some Rad-Aways and you should be ok.

Not sure which stats you mean. Klamath (town at the beginning) doesn't have a doctor and Rad-Away is crazy expensive for a character at the very beginning of the game.

[ElNono]

Not sure which stats you mean. Klamath (town at the beginning) doesn't have a doctor and Rad-Away is crazy expensive for a character at the very beginning of the game.

Any of the stats (Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility, Luck = SPECIAL). Radiation goes away after a while if you stay away from radioactive places, but if you keep on getting irradiated, some of your stats will take a hit. Once that happens and you keep going to radioactive places, if any of those stats hit zero, you're dead. Probably not an issue early in the game, tbh... just keep that in mind.

[baseline bum]

Any of the stats (Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility, Luck = SPECIAL). Radiation goes away after a while if you stay away from radioactive places, but if you keep on getting irradiated, some of your stats will take a hit. Once that happens and you keep going to radioactive places, if any of those stats hit zero, you're dead. Probably not an issue early in the game, tbh... just keep that in mind.

Just to see how radiated I was I saved, bought some Rad-Away, used it, and it said it removed 4 points radiation, and I was no longer listed as radiated. I assume that's a pretty low amount and not worth wasting the $850 on early in the game? That won't be enough to cut down any stats will it? Also, are your special stats gone for good when you lose them due to radiation, or do they come back once you're cured?

[ElNono]

Just to see how radiated I was I saved, bought some Rad-Away, used it, and it said it removed 4 points radiation, and I was no longer listed as radiated. I assume that's a pretty low amount and not worth wasting the $850 on early in the game? That won't be enough to cut down any stats will it? Also, are your special stats gone for good when you lose them due to radiation, or do they come back once you're cured?

They come back if you're cured. 4 points of radiation poisoning is nothing. IIRC, 150 is when you start taking hits to your stats, and you can go all the way up to 1000 if you're skilled enough

[baseline bum]

They come back if you're cured. 4 points of radiation poisoning is nothing. IIRC, 150 is when you start taking hits to your stats, and you can go all the way up to 1000 if you're skilled enough

It's funny how hard it was to become radiated in the first Fallout. There was one old vault that would kill you if you didn't pop Rad-X first, but otherwise you were fine as long as you didn't play chess with that computer. :lol

[baseline bum]

The fucking kids in Fallout 2 are annoying. Everytime I go into a store or a bar these faggots are pickpocketing me, then I have to go steal my shit back constantly.

[baseline bum]

They come back if you're cured. 4 points of radiation poisoning is nothing. IIRC, 150 is when you start taking hits to your stats, and you can go all the way up to 1000 if you're skilled enough

Fucking hell Fallout 2 is so buggy. In Modoc I banged this guy's daughter, and when the father caught me I lied and said I was a doctor giving her an examination. I never paid much attention until a few cities later and then I realized my followers aren't following me in towns. Apparently banging that guy's daughter and lying to weasel out of marrying her triggers this bug. So now the solution is to go way back to a way earlier savegame.

[baseline bum]

Turns out there is a way to correct the bug: by speaking to Vic's daughter with him in your party. I had to drag him into his daughter's work by getting into a fighting stance, walking 10 steps, he follows, get back in fighting stance, walk 10 steps, he follows, etc.

[ElNono]

Turns out there is a way to correct the bug: by speaking to Vic's daughter with him in your party. I had to drag him into his daughter's work by getting into a fighting stance, walking 10 steps, he follows, get back in fighting stance, walk 10 steps, he follows, etc.

:lol

[baseline bum]

:lol

I have a bad feeling I'm going to get 70% through Fallout 2 and then find some gamebreaking bug and be fucked.

[ElNono]

I have a bad feeling I'm going to get 70% through Fallout 2 and then find some gamebreaking bug and be fucked.

You'll be ok, mah nig... I finished it. It's a rewarding game, tbh...

[baseline bum]

You'll be ok, mah nig... I finished it. It's a rewarding game, tbh...

Hah Harold the ghoul is back and they're all kissing my ass for being descended from the Vault Dweller talking about how I saved them by fixing their water pump in Necropolis. But in Fallout 1 I accidentally let all those faggots get killed by mutants.

[ElNono]

Hah Harold the ghoul is back and they're all kissing my ass for being descended from the Vault Dweller talking about how I saved them by fixing their water pump in Necropolis. But in Fallout 1 I accidentally let all those faggots get killed by mutants.

If you look at the intro in Fallout 2, that's what the story is... you saved them and then they cast you away...

[baseline bum]

If you look at the intro in Fallout 2, that's what the story is... you saved them and then they cast you away...

Nah, I saved Vault 13 in Fallout 1 and they're the ones cast me away. This game is honestly too buggy to be enjoyable a lot of the time. I can't count how many times I have had to load a new save because I walked into a corner and one of my companions blocked the way and I couldn't walk out of it. If I tell him to spread out he just stands there.

[baseline bum]

Aw fuck, nevermind, I see there is a push command to move people. God damnit. :lol

[ElNono]

lol user error :lol

[baseline bum]

lol user error :lol

There wasn't one in Fallout 1 so it was unexpected there would be in 2 since they look like the same fucking game son. Don't make me call La Migra and get your ass sent back to Tijuana.

[ElNono]

There wasn't one in Fallout 1 so it was unexpected there would be in 2 since they look like the same fucking game son. Don't make me call La Migra and get your ass sent back to Tijuana.

tbh, Fallout 2 had all those little thing UI-wise that made it easier to play...

[baseline bum]

tbh, Fallout 2 had all those little thing UI-wise that made it easier to play...

They should have kept the bottle caps though.

[ElNono]

They should have kept the bottle caps though.

There's no bottle caps in Fallout 2? I didn't remember, tbh...

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Hahaha when did baseline bum become a computer expert video graphics card nerd :lol

[baseline bum]

Hahaha when did baseline bum become a computer expert video graphics card nerd :lol

I have been a PC gamer for a long time, but XBox 360 was such a great deal at launch I switched over to that until it finally died off last year. Now the consoles aren't nearly as powerful for their time as they were last generation, so I figured it was a good time to switch back over to PC once Nvidia released the 900 series and made it cheap as fuck to have a high end gaming system. You can build a pretty awesome 1080p/1440p gaming computer for about $700 now:

GPU: $310 Nvidia GTX 970
CPU: $170 i5-4440
MOTHERBOARD: $50 H81 board
RAM: 8GB for $50
HARD DRIVE: 1TB for $50
POWER SUPPLY: $40 for a good 500W unit if you shop around
CASE: $40 or so if you shop around

Twice the price for more than twice the performance of a PS4 (e.g., you'll run most games at 60 fps at 1080p on higher settings than PS4/XB1 run at 1080p 30 fps or 720p/900p 60 fps).

I loved last generation of consoles when you were getting pretty monster hardware for crazy low prices, as Sony and Microsoft took huge hits on every console sold for the first couple of years. And X360/PS3 was such a huge jump up from XBox/PS2. This generation the hardware is much weaker for the time and they came pretty close to breaking even on every console sale even at launch. The GPU in a PS4 or XB1 is about on par with a $100 R7 260x and the CPU is ridiculously weak by modern standards, as it's two crappy AMD quadcores running at something like 1.6 GHz.

[baseline bum]

There's no bottle caps in Fallout 2? I didn't remember, tbh...

Yeah, Fallout 2 has money instead of caps. Two is way longer than 1, right? Having got my small weapons over 100% and lockpick and barter up to 60% I'm wondering if it's time to start putting skill points into energy weapons or if I have time to bring my doctor skill up for the hit point reading perk and for getting armor implants. Still have yet to see a plasma rifle yet though, which was game over in Fallout 1 once you got energy weapons near 100%.

[ElNono]

Yeah, Fallout 2 has money instead of caps. Two is way longer than 1, right? Having got my small weapons over 100% and lockpick and barter up to 60% I'm wondering if it's time to start putting skill points into energy weapons or if I have time to bring my doctor skill up for the hit point reading perk and for getting armor implants. Still have yet to see a plasma rifle yet though, which was game over in Fallout 1 once you got energy weapons near 100%.

yeah, it's a bigger world map, IIRC

[baseline bum]

yeah, it's a bigger world map, IIRC

Is there a time limit on getting the GECK like there was with the water chip in 1?

[ElNono]

Is there a time limit on getting the GECK like there was with the water chip in 1?

No, and for Fallout 1 I thought they removed the time limit with a patch... hrm, not sure now

[baseline bum]

No, and for Fallout 1 I thought they removed the time limit with a patch... hrm, not sure now

Fallout 1 you had like 150 days to find the water chip, and then if you didn't take out that preacher fast enough his mutant armies would slowly overrun most of the towns.

[ElNono]

Fallout 1 you had like 150 days to find the water chip, and then if you didn't take out that preacher fast enough his mutant armies would slowly overrun most of the towns.

Yeah, check out this Tim Cain video... I think he says they removed the time limit in a later patch...

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[baseline bum]

Yeah, check out this Tim Cain video... I think he says they removed the time limit in a later patch...

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This is weird, I was running this game with the MSI Afterburner overlay on and saw I was getting 2000 fps most of the time, so I figured I'd turn on adaptive vsync to 60 fps in Nvidia Control Panel so my 970 wouldn't running balls to the wall just to run the game at 33x my monitor's refresh rate. But it lags like hell if I limit it to 60 fps.

[ElNono]

This is weird, I was running this game with the MSI Afterburner overlay on and saw I was getting 2000 fps most of the time, so I figured I'd turn on adaptive vsync to 60 fps in Nvidia Control Panel so my 970 wouldn't running balls to the wall just to run the game at 33x my monitor's refresh rate. But it lags like hell if I limit it to 60 fps.

I don't even think the game was originally 60fps, tbh....

Anyways, we landed the gig, so I'll be ordering a 970 next week... gonna wait until Amazon Prime day next wednesday and see if they have some deals on those... heck, if they chop off $200 on a 980, I might snag one of those...

[baseline bum]

I don't even think the game was originally 60fps, tbh....

Anyways, we landed the gig, so I'll be ordering a 970 next week... gonna wait until Amazon Prime day next wednesday and see if they have some deals on those... heck, if they chop off $200 on a 980, I might snag one of those...

LOL you have waited this long for a 970 but you have to have it next day? :lol

[ElNono]

LOL you have waited this long for a 970 but you have to have it next day? :lol

what do you mean?

[baseline bum]

what do you mean?

Fucking dyslexia son, I read "day next Wednesday" as "next day Wednesday." :lol

[ElNono]

Fucking dyslexia son, I read "day next Wednesday" as "next day Wednesday." :lol

:lol

[baseline bum]

:lol

Damn Microcenter had GTX 980s on clearance for $250 a couple of days ago, and people were printing that page out and getting Best Buy to price match on it. :lmao

Damn I wish I would have tried, since I could probably get close to $250 for my 970. :lol

[ElNono]

Damn Microcenter had GTX 980s on clearance for $250 a couple of days ago, and people were printing that page out and getting Best Buy to price match on it. :lmao

Damn I wish I would have tried, since I could probably get close to $250 for my 970. :lol

damn, if I knew I would've picked one up. There's a Microcenter an hour from here.

[baseline bum]

damn, if I knew I would've picked one up. There's a Microcenter an hour from here.

Damn, game over once you get the Bozar out of the Toxic Caves in FO2. Only prob is you gotta go solo or you'll rip your party to shreds with it.

:lol taking out the whole casino Bishop runs easily with that fucking thing. Of course after barebacking his daughter and wife. :lol

No reason to even get the plasma rifle in Fallout 2?

And yeah, this game is much better than Fallout 1, even with the bugs.

Also, holy fuck, Microcenter had the EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX for $143. But out of stock everywhere by now. Time to head to Best Buy to price match? :lol

http://www.microcenter.com/product/438841/geforce_gtx_970_video_card

That's the specific 970 I already have. :lol

[ElNono]

Damn, game over once you get the Bozar out of the Toxic Caves in FO2. Only prob is you gotta go solo or you'll rip your party to shreds with it.

:lol taking out the whole casino Bishop runs easily with that fucking thing. Of course after barebacking his daughter and wife. :lol

No reason to even get the plasma rifle in Fallout 2?

And yeah, this game is much better than Fallout 1, even with the bugs.

Also, holy fuck, Microcenter had the EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX for $143. But out of stock everywhere by now. Time to head to Best Buy to price match? :lol

http://www.microcenter.com/product/438841/geforce_gtx_970_video_card

That's the specific 970 I already have. :lol

damn, out of stock in the local microcenter too... we'll see if there's anything on sale tomorrow @ Amazon or Walmart...

[vander]

damn

[baseline bum]

damn, out of stock in the local microcenter too... we'll see if there's anything on sale tomorrow @ Amazon or Walmart...

I just found out that's not the one I have, it's the original ACX 970 that they only sold for a week or two because everyone was returning it for coil whine. Still, buy that bitch for less than half price and then RMA it and get sent the good version of the SC card, or maybe an SSC since they don't produce the SC any more.

[ElNono]

I just found out that's not the one I have, it's the original ACX 970 that they only sold for a week or two because everyone was returning it for coil whine. Still, buy that bitch for less than half price and then RMA it and get sent the good version of the SC card, or maybe an SSC since they don't produce the SC any more.

I'm looking at the Gigabyte mini one... still overclocked, just not as much, but only one fan and cheaper... plus has all the connectors...

[baseline bum]

damn, out of stock in the local microcenter too... we'll see if there's anything on sale tomorrow @ Amazon or Walmart...

If you're looking to buy tomorrow the two best 970s are the Gigabyte G1 Gaming and MSI Gaming. The EVGA SSC ACX is worthy too. I'd stay away from blowers, EVGA SC, Zotac, and Asus Strix since they don't have as good of power delivery as the first three, and power delivery is always the factor limiting my boost clocks on my EVGA SC ACX.

[baseline bum]

I'm looking at the Gigabyte mini one... still overclocked, just not as much, but only one fan and cheaper... plus has all the connectors...

I have heard bad things about that one, it's loud and throttles in reviews I have seen.

[ElNono]

If you're looking to buy tomorrow the two best 970s are the Gigabyte G1 Gaming and MSI Gaming. The EVGA SSC ACX is worthy too. I'd stay away from blowers, EVGA SC, Zotac, and Asus Strix since they don't have as good of power delivery as the first three, and power delivery is always the factor limiting my boost clocks on my EVGA SC ACX.

If I go for full-size, I'll probably pick up a Gigabyte Gaming...

[ElNono]

I have heard bad things about that one, it's loud and throttles in reviews I have seen.

oh yeah? I read mostly good stuff about it...

[baseline bum]

If I go for full-size, I'll probably pick up a Gigabyte Gaming...

It's a big motherfucker, but it has the best cooler and the best power delivery of any of the 970s, and thus also hits the highest boost clocks on average.

[ElNono]

Looks like we're getting the G1 Gaming... I had to check my case to make sure it clears the 13 inches, and it looks like it's gonna be ok... :tu

[baseline bum]

Looks like we're getting the G1 Gaming... I had to check my case to make sure it clears the 13 inches, and it looks like it's gonna be ok... :tu

While no one's looking let me trade you my EVGA SuperClocked for it, company won't know the difference tbh.

[ElNono]

While no one's looking let me trade you my EVGA SuperClocked for it, company won't know the difference tbh.

I'm one of the company's owners, so that would be a no :lol

[baseline bum]

I'm one of the company's owners, so that would be a no :lol

I'm calling INS then.

[ElNono]

I'm calling INS then.

:lol I don't even think it's called INS anymore

go ahead... I have my "Welcome to 'Murica" chinese-made t-shirt I received in my citizenship ceremony right here...

in other news, I also just put my hands a PS4 dualshock controller, and it's damn nice... I thought the XBox 360 controller was tough to beat, but this one feels pretty good.

[baseline bum]

:lol I don't even think it's called INS anymore

go ahead... I have my "Welcome to 'Murica" chinese-made t-shirt I received in my citizenship ceremony right here...

in other news, I also just put my hands a PS4 dualshock controller, and it's damn nice... I thought the XBox 360 controller was tough to beat, but this one feels pretty good.

The PS2 DualShock is still my favorite controller all time. I didn't like how light the PS3 dualshock felt. Is the PS4's more like the PS2 dualshock in that regard?

Post how high of a boost clock you can get with it. The power delivery on the G1 Gaming is fucking great, most should hit 1500 MHz and good ones can hit 1600 MHz. Pretty impressive considering the reference boost clock is only 1178 MHz. My EVGA SuperClocked can only get in the low 1400s, which is still a fucking lot I guess.

[ElNono]

The PS2 DualShock is still my favorite controller all time. I didn't like how light the PS3 dualshock felt. Is the PS4's more like the PS2 dualshock in that regard?

Post how high of a boost clock you can get with it. The power delivery on the G1 Gaming is fucking great, most should hit 1500 MHz and good ones can hit 1600 MHz. Pretty impressive considering the reference boost clock is only 1178 MHz. My EVGA SuperClocked can only get in the low 1400s, which is still a fucking lot I guess.

Never owned a PS2, so I don't know what those controls feel like, tbh. This one feels a bit lighter and smaller than the 360 controller, which is not bad considering it has a Li-Ion battery inside it. It just feels solid, good build. I thought that touch section would suck, but it's not bad.

As far as the g1 gaming, specs read base: 1178 MHz / boost: 1329 MHz. BTW, I have one wire coming out of the PSU with 2 8-pin connectors. I was thinking of using that to feed the card. Is that ok, or should I use separate lines coming out of the PSU?

[baseline bum]

Never owned a PS2, so I don't know what those controls feel like, tbh. This one feels a bit lighter and smaller than the 360 controller, which is not bad considering it has a Li-Ion battery inside it. It just feels solid, good build. I thought that touch section would suck, but it's not bad.

As far as the g1 gaming, specs read base: 1178 MHz / boost: 1329 MHz. BTW, I have one wire coming out of the PSU with 2 8-pin connectors. I was thinking of using that to feed the card. Is that ok, or should I use separate lines coming out of the PSU?

I think the G1 Gaming uses two 6-pins. Are your connectors 8-pin or 6+2 on your PSU?

Also fucking shit, I just got the GECK to return to Arroyo expecting a massive orgy with the tribal bitches for saving the town, and all I see is that faggot shaman telling me everyone got raped by aliens or whatever.
:pctoss

New Reno with the Bozar in the casinos is pretty fucking fun tbh.

[ElNono]

I think the G1 Gaming uses two 6-pins. Are your connectors 8-pin or 6+2 on your PSU?

Also fucking shit, I just got the GECK to return to Arroyo expecting a massive orgy with the tribal bitches for saving the town, and all I see is that faggot shaman telling me everyone got raped by aliens or whatever.
:pctoss

New Reno with the Bozar in the casinos is pretty fucking fun tbh.

Actually, I just checked and the card needs one 6 and one 8. I definitely remember having a 6+2 there, so it should be ok.

The big cities in F2 were the best, tbh... random encounters are not bad, but the towns are nice.

[baseline bum]

Actually, I just checked and the card needs one 6 and one 8. I definitely remember having a 6+2 there, so it should be ok.

The big cities in F2 were the best, tbh... random encounters are not bad, but the towns are nice.

Also, you can use MSI Afterburner to overclock your card. No reason not to with a G1 Gaming, its cooler is overkill for GM204 so the bitch stays quiet even under heavy overclocks. You have to go in and enable raising voltage in the settings in Afterburner, but you're limited to safe values as long as you don't flash a custom BIOS on it (which would void your warranty). Afterburner has an onscreen display you can setup to show GPU usage, VRAM usage, temperatures, core and memory clocks, etc too.

[ElNono]

Also, you can use MSI Afterburner to overclock your card. No reason not to with a G1 Gaming, its cooler is overkill for GM204 so the bitch stays quiet even under heavy overclocks. You have to go in and enable raising voltage in the settings in Afterburner, but you're limited to safe values as long as you don't flash a custom BIOS on it (which would void your warranty). Afterburner has an onscreen display you can setup to show GPU usage, VRAM usage, temperatures, core and memory clocks, etc too.

Right now, it's probably more than enough for what I'm gonna be working on. Once I move it to gaming, if it's a 4-5 fps difference, I'll probably won't even bother.

[baseline bum]

Right now, it's probably more than enough for what I'm gonna be working on. Once I move it to gaming, if it's a 4-5 fps difference, I'll probably won't even bother.

It's worth it to bump up that clock, and doesn't come with any of the downsides regarding temperature or fan noise you'd see in hotter cards like the AMD 200/300 series, the Nvidia 700 series, or the balls to wall Maxwell cards (980Ti and Titan X). I have one of the worst cooled 970s on the market (EVGA SuperClocked ACX 2.0, one of the three heat pipes doesn't even contact the core) and even here in Texas in the middle of the summer with a fan curve optimized more for quiet the highest it ever goes is 75C on an overclock above 1400 MHz.

In a game like GTA V stock 970 is just below what's needed for a mostly locked 60 fps at 1080p with most of the settings cranked, but an overclock to 1400+ MHz closes the gap so that the worst drops are in the high 50s and not noticeable. Drops to the low 50s at stock are easily noticeable though.

[baseline bum]

The big cities in F2 were the best, tbh... random encounters are not bad, but the towns are nice.

What was your porn name. I'm Dick Mountenjoy. I'm surprised they didn't let you choose Buck Naked since the game is so filled with pop culture references.

[ElNono]

It's worth it to bump up that clock, and doesn't come with any of the downsides regarding temperature or fan noise you'd see in hotter cards like the AMD 200/300 series, the Nvidia 700 series, or the balls to wall Maxwell cards (980Ti and Titan X). I have one of the worst cooled 970s on the market (EVGA SuperClocked ACX 2.0, one of the three heat pipes doesn't even contact the core) and even here in Texas in the middle of the summer with a fan curve optimized more for quiet the highest it ever goes is 75C on an overclock above 1400 MHz.

In a game like GTA V stock 970 is just below what's needed for a mostly locked 60 fps at 1080p with most of the settings cranked, but an overclock to 1400+ MHz closes the gap so that the worst drops are in the high 50s and not noticeable. Drops to the low 50s at stock are easily noticeable though.

Meh, I don't really care for tinkering.

[ElNono]

So I have the G1 Gaming... pretty big card... it's quiet as fuck (at least in idle), and has some LED on the side. I installed GeForce Experience to deal with the drivers, is that ok?

[baseline bum]

So I have the G1 Gaming... pretty big card... it's quiet as fuck (at least in idle), and has some LED on the side. I installed GeForce Experience to deal with the drivers, is that ok?

If you use Chrome you have to turn off hardware acceleration to use a new driver, or download the 350.12 drivers or earlier if you don't want to turn hardware acceleration off. Otherwise the drivers crashes every once in a while while using Chrome. It's ridiculous that Nvidia's drivers have been so unstable since April. GeForce Experience is fine for official drivers, but don't use its recommendations for settings. Their recommendations are terrible, as if they're designed to get you to be unsatisfied with your card so you go buy a 980 Ti. Seriously, it recommends settings to run 45 fps instead of 60 fps.

[ElNono]

If you use Chrome you have to turn off hardware acceleration to use a new driver, or download the 350.12 drivers or earlier if you don't want to turn hardware acceleration off. Otherwise the drivers crashes every once in a while while using Chrome. It's ridiculous that Nvidia's drivers have been so unstable since April. GeForce Experience is fine for official drivers, but don't use its recommendations for settings. Their recommendations are terrible, as if they're designed to get you to be unsatisfied with your card so you go buy a 980 Ti. Seriously, it recommends settings to run 45 fps instead of 60 fps.

Im running chrome in this box and haven't noticed anything... but then again, today was the first day I used it...

The app I'm running that needed the card went from 40 fps to 256 fps :lol

Once I'm done with this project, I might install a game or two and see how they look.

[baseline bum]

Im running chrome in this box and haven't noticed anything... but then again, today was the first day I used it...

The app I'm running that needed the card went from 40 fps to 256 fps :lol

Once I'm done with this project, I might install a game or two and see how they look.

The new 353.30 drivers are better, but still crash every once in a while when using Chrome with hardware acceleration on. The 352.86 driver crashed every 10 minutes using Chrome.

So how big of a discount are you going to give yourself to buy the card after your project is over? :lol

[ElNono]

The new 353.30 drivers are better, but still crash every once in a while when using Chrome with hardware acceleration on. The 352.86 driver crashed every 10 minutes using Chrome.

So how big of a discount are you going to give yourself to buy the card after your project is over? :lol

:lol the way this gig is going and what it pays, I'm starting to think GTX 980 Ti for home, tbh...

[bobcatfan4life]

They had a demo at quakecon, which reveals some new info about the game.

[baseline bum]

They had a demo at quakecon, which reveals some new info about the game.

I hope you can be a porn star again

[baseline bum]

Just finished Fallout 2 and damn, the city of New Reno is incredible. I wonder if that's the highpoint of the series, being a pornstar, barebacking some mobster's wife and daughter, and then killing him and his family off. :lmao

[bobcatfan4life]

Link to leaked gameplay from Gamescom.

https://vid.me/PPhC (https://vid.me/PPhC)

[Trainwreck2100]

Fallout shelter came out for android today

[baseline bum]

Just getting ready to start Fallout 3, and I'm following this guide to update the graphics to something reasonably modern:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1508-fallout-3-graphics-content-mod-overhaul

What a pain in the ass to set all this shit up though. I wonder if it's like Skyrim where it's really easy to overdo the mods and kill your performance.

[baseline bum]

They can be long. Also, forgot to mention that the combat is turn-based. Not sure how you feel about that. If you do play them, save often! There's no autosave, IIRC.

For something more modern you can go with Fallout 3, but I feel while the game is good, the storyline isn't as great, tbh...

I have been playing Fallout 3 for a while now, and I like it a lot better than Fallout 2. Being able to play the radio stations on your Pip Boy makes it really fucking immersive. Like you walk through one part of the map and there is the Peoples' Republic of the United States radio talking about how China is our friend, not the Wall Street fat cats. All that great 1950s sounding music on the resistance channel. Then Enclave radio with all the patriotic crap hosted by the President of the United States. Thank black jeebus for the mod for taking away the green sky though, that looked so shitty.

[ElNono]

I have been playing Fallout 3 for a while now, and I like it a lot better than Fallout 2. Being able to play the radio stations on your Pip Boy makes it really fucking immersive. Like you walk through one part of the map and there is the Peoples' Republic of the United States radio talking about how China is our friend, not the Wall Street fat cats. All that great 1950s sounding music on the resistance channel. Then Enclave radio with all the patriotic crap hosted by the President of the United States. Thank black jeebus for the mod for taking away the green sky though, that looked so shitty.

It's a great game on it's own... and some of the expansions are great too... story-wise it just isn't as solid, but the overall experience might be better considering it's a much more modern game.

[baseline bum]

LOL, I just found out I have to activate mods in Nexus Control Center to get them to show up in FO3. Damn I have been playing this game for a month with no mods. Though I gotta say I don't like most of the mods. Like the Fellout mod completely sucks, and this is supposed to the big absolutely can't miss mod. It looks great in the daytime but it makes night pitch black, and you have to put in another patch for streetlights. But that makes no sense that you'd have every streetlight working 24/7 after the country has been blown up, and it looks like shit.

Even worse, I can't believe how many of the so called "must have" mods try to turn the game into a lousy FPS. I don't want to use iron sights or shoot from the hip, VATS is the most fun way to play the game and the most true to the first two games since it's straight statistically determined like in the original Fallout games. The energy weapons mod is truly horrible, I spent forever trying to get a Gauss Rifle (always the best weapon in Fallout games) and the energy weapons mod gimped it to make it almost useless in VATS, making up for that by making it a pretty good weapon aiming down sight or shooting from the hip. But why would I want the game to be Call of Duty when it has that great aiming system built in? I'm glad I failed at initially loading the mods because I would have liked the game a lot less playing it than playing the vanilla Fallout 3. The only mods worth installing are the stutter fix (the GetClockTick function Bethesda used sucks and gives microstutter), the unofficial patch that fixes a lot of crashes, the patch allowing it to use more than 2GB RAM, and the higher resolution texture patches. Otherwise the mods are pretty lame IMO and Bethesda did a way better job of it. When I play New Vegas I'm definitely only installing the mods for performance and the higher resolution textures. Oh yeah, the water mod is awesome on FO3, I'll probably install that one too in FONV.

[baseline bum]

It's a great game on it's own... and some of the expansions are great too... story-wise it just isn't as solid, but the overall experience might be better considering it's a much more modern game.

After about a month of playing FO3 I think I have it and FO2 neck and neck for my favorite. Damn if Bethesda hadn't toned down the sense of humor in Fallout 2. C'mon Nono, how about writing a mod for FO4 that brings the porn studio and all the bitches' reactions back? :lol

[ElNono]

After about a month of playing FO3 I think I have it and FO2 neck and neck for my favorite. Damn if Bethesda hadn't toned down the sense of humor in Fallout 2. C'mon Nono, how about writing a mod for FO4 that brings the porn studio and all the bitches' reactions back? :lol

FO2 just has a lot of memorable moments... it's not that FO3 sucks or anything, it's a damn solid sequel, tbh...

There were no mods when I played FO3, tbh... I liked the game just the way it was. VATS was natural for me coming from FO2...

[baseline bum]

FO2 just has a lot of memorable moments... it's not that FO3 sucks or anything, it's a damn solid sequel, tbh...

There were no mods when I played FO3, tbh... I liked the game just the way it was. VATS was natural for me coming from FO2...

Oh man, this is just wrong that Harold wants me to kill him in Fallout 3. He was such a funny character in Fallout 1 and 2. How the fuck did this nigga get from Gecko to DC?

[ElNono]

Oh man, this is just wrong that Harold wants me to kill him in Fallout 3. He was such a funny character in Fallout 1 and 2. How the fuck did this nigga get from Gecko to DC?

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Harold

[DJR210]

Damn I have been playing this game for a month with no mods. .

:lol going in to see the results of the mod and trying to convince yourself you can see a difference

[baseline bum]

:lol going in to see the results of the mod and trying to convince yourself you can see a difference

I thought I had some of the mods working because the sky wasn't as green as in the trailers. :lol

But I thought I installed the mods before I even played a second of the game. :lol

Oh well, the mods sucked except for the texture packs, those are awesome.

Finally finished the game and I loved the fucking ending where you die. But then I thought the DLC was kind of stupid in that I actually survive to fight with the Brotherhood of Steel after the ending claimed I gave my life in saving the water purification project.

[baseline bum]

I don't think I'm going to put in any of the mods other than stability and framerate fixes when I play New Vegas. Especially since that game is supposed to be a little truer to the first two than FO3 was.

[ElNono]

You should play the Operation: Anchorage and Point Lookout add-ons if you have some time... I can't vouch for the others, but those two were pretty good, IIRC...

[baseline bum]

You should play the Operation: Anchorage and Point Lookout add-ons if you have some time... I can't vouch for the others, but those two were pretty good, IIRC...

I have done Anchorage. It turns out that's the only way to get the Gauss Rifle. It was ok, but the DLC I really liked was the alien ship. I thought that was much better than Operation Anchorage.

[ElNono]

I have done Anchorage. It turns out that's the only way to get the Gauss Rifle. It was ok, but the DLC I really liked was the alien ship. I thought that was much better than Operation Anchorage.

Don't really remember Mothership Zeta much... I do remember playing it.

[redzero]

Point Lookout > all other FO3/NV DLC

[baseline bum]

Finally started New Vegas this weekend, and I'm dying laughing at the slavers dressed in Roman gear and pronouncing their leader Caesar's name as Kaiser. :lol

The old school country music and Vegas showtunes are awesome too through the Pip Boy.

[Chris]

Finally started New Vegas this weekend

You're in for a treat; New Vegas is basically an improvement on the masterpiece that is Fallout 3.

[baseline bum]

You're in for a treat; New Vegas is basically an improvement on the masterpiece that is Fallout 3.

It reminds me a lot of Fallout 2 with the different ammo and the weapon customization.

[baseline bum]

LOL Fallout 4 is a GameWorks game

http://i.imgur.com/3ctXqKG.jpg

[DJR210]

I think I might actually but this shit for a change.

[ElNono]

I think I might actually but this shit for a change.

That's what I'm thinking

[DJR210]

That's what I'm thinking

Me buying a game without good multi is unheard of..

[DJR210]

I changed my mind.. I'm stealing it

[ElNono]

Me buying a game without good multi is unheard of..

don't care about MP... I just want them to keep doing the series, without going for the microtransactions bullshit, or "unlock this chest on your tablet"...

[vander]

Me buying a game without good multi is unheard of..

that's appalling, single player is what requires creativity and work and deserves purchase if well done. MP is just the materials, like paper and ink for a book.

[baseline bum]

that's appalling, single player is what requires creativity and work and deserves purchase if well done. MP is just the materials, like paper and ink for a book.

Yeah MP fps games are the ones that are always cookie cutter copies. How many times can you make Call of Duty or Battlefield?

[baseline bum]

don't care about MP... I just want them to keep doing the series, without going for the microtransactions bullshit, or "unlock this chest on your tablet"...

So you ready to break up with the AC series?

[ElNono]

So you ready to break up with the AC series?

Nah, I'm just ready play the RLD version of those

[baseline bum]

Nah, I'm just ready play the RLD version of those

I prefer ^^nosTEAM^^ tbh, better support for patches and you can get the torrents from their site instead of going to piratebay or something and ending up with a repackaged RLD or nosteam game with an added bitcoin miner or keylogger tbh.

[ElNono]

I prefer ^^nosTEAM^^ tbh, better support for patches and you can get the torrents from their site instead of going to piratebay or something and ending up with a repackaged RLD or nosteam game with an added bitcoin miner or keylogger tbh.

I mostly try to stay away from torrents, tbh... the few I've done lately are repacks, like fitgirl's repacks, which save me 4-5 gigs of download for languages I won't use. I just get much better speeds with a different method.

[ElNono]

Anybody playing this yet? I heard some bad mouthing about animations and gfx, but I'm more interested in hows the story...

[baseline bum]

Anybody playing this yet? I heard some bad mouthing about animations and gfx, but I'm more interested in hows the story...

Bethesda never disappoints on story. At least not in Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Fallout New Vegas.

[DJR210]

Anybody playing this yet? I heard some bad mouthing about animations and gfx, but I'm more interested in hows the story...

Who cares, you're gonna steal it anyway. You know a FO game is at least worth a theft.

[DJR210]

I've realized that piracy is wrong and isn't a victim-less crime, and I will be purchasing this wonderful game at midnight. I'm not a broke bastard like some people around here..

[ElNono]

I'm on the record I'm buying it too... I want a Fallout 5, even if this one ends up sucking...

[baseline bum]

Point Lookout > all other FO3/NV DLC

I think my favorite DLC of the series is the robot brains one in New Vegas.

[baseline bum]

I'm on the record I'm buying it too... I want a Fallout 5, even if this one ends up sucking...

I want a New Vegas sequel bro. Maybe something going Utah to Montana.

[ElNono]

I want a New Vegas sequel bro. Maybe something going Utah to Montana.

It'll be interesting how they tie 4 with whatever is next. I remember Fallout 3 talked about the Institute in MA quite a bit

[baseline bum]

It'll be interesting how they tie 4 with whatever is next. I remember Fallout 3 talked about the Institute in MA quite a bit

New Vegas never really tied in with 3, more with 2. And 3 only seemed to tie in with 2 with Harold.

[ElNono]

New Vegas never really tied in with 3, more with 2. And 3 only seemed to tie in with 2 with Harold.

I'm glad they did Vegas, tbh... ties in with Area 51, etc... wonder if New York is next...

[Reck]

I saw gameplay of this. WTF is this shit? The first couple of hours all you're doing is chores around the house and shit. :lol

[baseline bum]

I saw gameplay of this. WTF is this shit? The first couple of hours all you're doing is chores around the house and shit. :lol

Should I name my character Blake then?

[Reck]

Should I name my character Blake then?

CuckBlacked. :lol

[baseline bum]

Damn I want to get this game tomorrow seeing that my system can run it 60 fps ultra, but I'm not starting a new Fallout before I finish New Vegas.

[ElNono]

Played about an hour... no complaints so far...

[baseline bum]

Look at these one second stutters on the XBox One version of the game.

:lol Microsoft


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ

You have to go buy at least a fucking 7200 rpm hard drive to get rid of these :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB8ZyFt-LHc

[resistanze]

lol, I'll buy a used PS4 in the future just to play Uncharted and Gran Turismo and if there's a Last of Us sequel

[DJR210]

Look at these one second stutters on the XBox One version of the game.

:lol Microsoft


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ

You have to go buy at least a fucking 7200 rpm hard drive to get rid of these :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB8ZyFt-LHc

:lol Xbox One

[baseline bum]

:lol XPoor One

[ElNono]

already wasted too much time with the scrapping/building stuff :lol

part of a side mission tho

[jeebus]

:lol XPoor One
the samsung of consoles tbh

[baseline bum]

the samsung of consoles tbh

Samsung actually makes great SSDs and RAM though. Microsoft doesn't do anything well.

[baseline bum]

Man, the Dead Money missions on New Vegas are shit. I have enjoyed all the Fallout DLC until this one.

[hater]

Fallout 3 was pretty great. So new Vegas is better? I might play that instead of buying fallout 4. Then buy that when price goes down

[baseline bum]

Fallout 3 was pretty great. So new Vegas is better? I might play that instead of buying fallout 4. Then buy that when price goes down

I really liked FO3, but I think New Vegas is definitely a better game in almost every way. Better setting, better graphics, better music, more immersive, better DLC (though Dead Money is shit), better weapons, better upgrading system, better crafting. But you can't just max your character out with 10 SPECIAL on everything like you can really quickly on Fallout 3. New Vegas is more a continuation of 1 and 2 if you have played those, it doesn't have much to do with what happened in Fallout 3 (which it sounds like FO4 continues from).

[DJR210]

:lol Nvidia

Claims G-sync works especially well in FO4.. Couldn't be farther from the truth.. Bethesda hates G- sync and high refresh rates :cry

I have my FPS locked at 72 FPS (half of the 144Hz refresh) using regular old faggoty V- Sync.. No stutteringvthough so it's all good.

Performance wise I've found that textures on anythingvhigher than medium are nearly worthless, and his rays is excessively taxing on frames.. I adjusted shadows and God rays and stay above 60 FPS nearly all the time.

[baseline bum]

:lol Nvidia

Claims G-sync works especially well in FO4.. Couldn't be farther from the truth.. Bethesda hates G- sync and high refresh rates :cry

I have my FPS locked at 72 FPS (half of the 144Hz refresh) using regular old faggoty V- Sync.. No stutteringvthough so it's all good.

Performance wise I've found that textures on anythingvhigher than medium are nearly worthless, and his rays is excessively taxing on frames.. I adjusted shadows and God rays and stay above 60 FPS nearly all the time.

Are you turning down shadows or shadow distance, or both? The god rays look great, but I had to turn that shit down in Far Cry 4, so I figure I might need to here also. Dropping those usually lessens CPU bottlenecks. Are you on the 358.91 drivers from Nov 9th? I have heard people on 780/780Ti bitching about them, but every Nvidia driver has been kind of suspect since the Witcher 3 driver.

[DJR210]

Are you turning down shadows or shadow distance, or both? The god rays look great, but I had to turn that shit down in Far Cry 4, so I figure I might need to here also. Dropping those usually lessens CPU bottlenecks. Are you on the 358.91 drivers from Nov 9th? I have heard people on 780/780Ti bitching about them, but every Nvidia driver has been kind of suspect since the Witcher 3 driver.

Turned down both.. And yeah.. The God rays look great, on low they have less layers and appear somewhat pixelated vs ultra. I'm on the FO4 game ready drivers.

[baseline bum]

Turned down both.. And yeah.. The God rays look great, on low they have less layers and appear somewhat pixelated vs ultra. I'm on the FO4 game ready drivers.

Hey man, what kind of RAM do you have in your system to be getting 72 fps?



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

The importance of RAM

If sustaining 60fps is proving challenging, we have some advice for you: consider faster RAM. We ran through a series of traversal sequences using a Core i5 4690K paired with a Titan X running at 1080p - in short, a scenario designed to remove the GPU as a bottleneck and stress the CPU. We then re-ran the test with faster memory. Below you'll find our lowest and average frame-rate results from three different configurations:

1600MHz: 36.0/54.6
2133MHz: 39.0/61.0
2400MHz: 44.0/66.9

That's a 22 per cent increase in performance with faster RAM comparing the slowest to the fastest. Now, this scenario is an exaggeration as the GPU is a major limiting factor in performance and by using a Titan X at a low resolution, we have removed that bottleneck. So are there any real-life applications?

Well, click on the shot above to see that - yes - faster RAM can make a difference in general gameplay, even with Fallout 4's v-sync cap, and without an outlandish lack of balance in system components. Essentially, when the CPU is the bottleneck, faster RAM can provide an often dramatic increase in performance. However, before considering an upgrade, make sure your motherboard is compatible with faster memory. Usually this functionality is reserved for the top-end chipsets.

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/7/9/3/6/6/9/RAM.bmp.jpg

[DJR210]

Hey man, what kind of RAM do you have in your system to be getting 72 fps?

I'm running a quad stick G. Skill Ripjaws Z 2133 Mhz

[Woo Bum-kon]

Why are all my guns so shit? I wasaw mowed down 50 times trying to kill a super mutant with a minigun.

[DJR210]

Why are all my guns so shit? I wasaw mowed down 50 times trying to kill a super mutant with a minigun.

I thought this as well so far.. 3 hours in. I figured I'd have to increase a perk or mod the gun or some shit.

[DJR210]

So we've had a week to play FO4, what's your verdict on the game? It's near perfect for me, they've improved on pretty much everything. The settlement building aspect is great IMO.

[ElNono]

So we've had a week to play FO4, what's your verdict on the game? It's near perfect for me, they've improved on pretty much everything. The settlement building aspect is great IMO.

Agreed. I like that fusion cores are not that hard to find too. Just got myself into the Institute...

[baseline bum]

So we've had a week to play FO4, what's your verdict on the game? It's near perfect for me, they've improved on pretty much everything. The settlement building aspect is great IMO.

Damn I still gotta finish New Vegas before jumping on 4. But I gotta be almost done with NV, since I have killed Caesar and am about to take out House.

[DJR210]

Damn I still gotta finish New Vegas before jumping on 4. But I gotta be almost done with NV, since I have killed Caesar and am about to take out House.

Fuck NV, you need to get on board with 4 already. Such a great game. I'll be on this and GTA V (still) for a long ass time.

It actually feels like a good shooter this time around. With mouse and keyboard it's awesome, there's really no need to rely on VATS in a bind like on 3 because the shooting mechanics are perfectly capable.

I also was able to get G- Sync to work with the game and it's fucking amazingly smooth. You can't really notice a dip in performance unless it hits 45 FPS, but frames in the most far-reaching vistas usually go no lower than 50 FPS for me with only shadows and distance on medium, and god rays set to high.

There's some stupid ass glitch that I've found where you get stuck on terminals when your frame rate is above 80. Its fucking retarded. I tested the FPS and sure enough it's caused by high frame rate. Fucking Bethesda. Other than that no complaints.

[baseline bum]

Fuck NV, you need to get on board with 4 already. Such a great game. I'll be on this and GTA V (still) for a long ass time.

No way I'm bailing on NV, the graphics may be shit but the gameplay and storyline are pretty great, as is the music.

[DJR210]

And :lol console scrubs.. Can't imagine having to play this at 25 FPS

[baseline bum]

And :lol console and AMD scrubs.. Can't imagine having to play this at 25 FPS

fify

[baseline bum]

It actually feels like a good shooter this time around. With mouse and keyboard it's awesome, there's really no need to rely on VATS in a bind like on 3 because the shooting mechanics are perfectly capable.


I strongly prefer VATS to playing the games Call of Duty style, and it's one of the things I hate about the mods for Fallout 3 that try to turn it to Call of Duty. So I didn't even bother with mods on NV other than bug fixes and the stutter remover.

[ElNono]

I strongly prefer VATS to playing the games Call of Duty style, and it's one of the things I hate about the mods for Fallout 3 that try to turn it to Call of Duty. So I didn't even bother with mods on NV other than bug fixes and the stutter remover.

VATS has been updated for Fallout 4... not sure you heard, but I'll let you find out what changed all on your own...

And just shooter mode is much better in this one...

[baseline bum]

VATS has been updated for Fallout 4... not sure you heard, but I'll let you find out what changed all on your own...

And just shooter mode is much better in this one...

I know it slows instead of pauses time. It looks like a pretty cool idea. I don't know if I like that you can choose to do critical hits though, I like the old school chance based system. But I haven't tried it yet, maybe I'll like it better.

[DJR210]

I strongly prefer VATS to playing the games Call of Duty style, and it's one of the things I hate about the mods for Fallout 3 that try to turn it to Call of Duty. So I didn't even bother with mods on NV other than bug fixes and the stutter remover.

I'm with you I love VATS.. But I don't have to rely on it like I had to at times in 3. Slow motion gibs FTW. Part of that is being in mouse and keyboard, but the feel of the gunplay is just better this time around.

There's a perk that randomly turns the enemy into paste on criticals (which are now manually controlled btw) that's a lot of fun in slow motion too.

[baseline bum]

I'm with you I love VATS.. But I don't have to rely on it like I had to at times in 3. Slow motion gibs FTW. Part of that is being in mouse and keyboard, but the feel of the gunplay is just better this time around.

There's a perk that randomly turns the enemy into paste on criticals (which are now manually controlled btw) that's a lot of fun in slow motion too.

Check this Fallout 4 build video. Funniest part is they used an R9 Nano which runs the game like shit. :lol

I'm still blown away they fit a high end gaming system in that case, though they had to expand it from a mini nuke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmxuadwucc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_geKxP5C29I

[DJR210]

Check this Fallout 4 build video. Funniest part is they used an R9 Nano which runs the game like shit. :lol

I'm still blown away they fit a high end gaming system in that case, though they had to expand it from a mini nuke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmxuadwucc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_geKxP5C29I

:lol that's awesome.. some asshole will spend top dollar buying it off the maker too

[baseline bum]

:lol that's awesome.. some asshole will spend top dollar buying it off the maker too

This is still the best Fallout build I have seen though

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/Zenator_art/2015_1001_1251_07_zpsb4m7p9zx.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/Zenator_art/2015_1001_1305_14_zpslplgxou2.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/Zenator_art/2015_1001_1241_43_zpswivy0buq.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/Zenator_art/2015_1001_1336_40_zpstuhsjlyn.jpg

http://www.overclock.net/t/1555944/project-fallout-4-zen-modz

[Woo Bum-kon]

I sure would like the companions to be less retarded. How hard is it to follow somebody? How did Bethesda execute this component worse than they did in Fallout 3?

[ElNono]

:lol I actually had the dog push me to the corner of some stairs and got stuck with the geometry... that said, other than that bug and one crash, it's been smooth sailing...

[baseline bum]

:lol I actually had the dog push me to the corner of some stairs and got stuck with the geometry

You can do that in basically every 3D game ever made though.

[ElNono]

You can do that in basically every 3D game ever made though.

I read some reviews that Fallout 4 was fairly egregious about it, but only happened once to me...

[Trainwreck2100]

Well there was a day 1 patch

[ElNono]

Well there was a day 1 patch

Installed it here

[baseline bum]

Ah fuck New Vegas. I got to the part where the president is giving a speech at Hoover Dam and he never fucking walks to the stage after leaving the vertibird. :pctoss

[baseline bum]

LOL I was 20 minutes away from beating the game. I ended up reloading a save and was able to complete the quest and the game, but in the quest before Hoover Dam I had to use the console to spawn some Great Khans to kill them since I had already wiped them out a long time ago but the NCR wanted me to kill them again (and there were none left). OK, so installing Fallout 4 right now but I'm not going to play it until tomorrow. Seems like I should be able to run it mostly 60 fps ultra on my GTX 970 based on the Digital Foundry benchmark I think I linked earlier, but they use an i7-4790k and I use a Xeon E3-1231v3 which is 600 MHz slower but is otherwise the same cpu as the 4790k other than being locked and having no integrated graphics. That 17% difference in clockspeed will probably have to be negated by turning down shadow distance or shadows for me to get consistent 60 fps I'm guessing, since those are CPU heavy settings and this game is supposed to be extremely taxing on the cpu.

After playing the first four canon Fallout games, I think I'd rate them

1. Fallout 2
2. Fallout New Vegas
3. Fallout
4. Fallout 3

[baseline bum]

I played about an hour and am pretty encouraged so far, the shadows and god rays are awesome when you're running through ruins of buildings with light shining through. I hope my character doesn't get raped, I always turn Intelligence way up in Fallout games since it has an enormous impact in your leveling in the other games, but since there are no stats and it only affects XP I wonder if it was a smart choice in FO4. So I assume you have to construct your own bed to be able to sleep and recover HP?

[ElNono]

I played about an hour and am pretty encouraged so far, the shadows and god rays are awesome when you're running through ruins of buildings with light shining through. I hope my character doesn't get raped, I always turn Intelligence way up in Fallout games since it has an enormous impact in your leveling in the other games, but since there are no stats and it only affects XP I wonder if it was a smart choice in FO4. So I assume you have to construct your own bed to be able to sleep and recover HP?

yes, or you can just use any bed in one of your settlements

[baseline bum]

Turned down both.. And yeah.. The God rays look great, on low they have less layers and appear somewhat pixelated vs ultra. I'm on the FO4 game ready drivers.

Damn ultra shadows make an enormous difference in performance vs high, but the game looks incredible with them on ultra and shitty on high imo. Guess I'll just take the odd drop to 50 fps. Not sure if texture quality is worth dropping from ultra since I have a 3.5 GB card though. I'll have to test it out.

[baseline bum]

LOL @ Conan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx8_pI3utlk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYV8Y9Ywh8

[resistanze]

I hope my character doesn't get raped, I always turn Intelligence way up in Fallout games since it has an enormous impact in your leveling in the other games, but since there are no stats and it only affects XP I wonder if it was a smart choice in FO4.

This made me lol for some reason :lol

[baseline bum]

Holy shit, the Red Menace game on holotape.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ZqYNwTmA8

[baseline bum]

Fallout 3 was pretty great. So new Vegas is better? I might play that instead of buying fallout 4. Then buy that when price goes down

After getting about ten hours in, I have to say FO4 is worth every cent of its $60 asking price. Of course New Vegas is unreal too though, if you were a fan of Fallout 3 then both New Vegas and 4 are complete can't miss games. The only bad thing I can say about FO4 is it uses mostly the same songs as FO3. In New Vegas it's not nearly as easy to build a superman character like it is in 3 though.

[DJR210]

After getting about ten hours in, I have to say FO4 is worth every cent of its $60 asking price.

Buuuuuuuuuuut.... you stole it.

[ElNono]

Holy shit, the Red Menace game on holotape.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ZqYNwTmA8

:lol I played that shit... it's right at the start of the game

[baseline bum]

Buuuuuuuuuuut.... you stole it.

Nah nigga, I got it and the season pass off newegg for $70 when they had it on special last week. Kind of shitty to buy the game disc and still have to download most of it off steam though tbh. Did set sail on the bay for a certain shooter long past its prime though.

[baseline bum]

:lol I played that shit... it's right at the start of the game

Yeah I know, but I carry that holotape around and pop it into random terminals. :lol

[DJR210]

Nah nigga, I got it and the season pass off newegg for $70 when they had it on special last week. Kind of shitty to buy the game disc and still have to download most of it off steam though tbh. Did set sail on the bay for a certain shooter long past its prime though.

:lol

This is proof that I'm not a grimy low life, if you produce quality games that work I won't bootleg them.

[baseline bum]

Ah fucking hell, I spent all this time and tons of resources to build a metal wall around Sanctuary with only an entrance at the bridge consisting of a long hallway flanked by machine gun turrents to find out that raiders will spawn inside the fucking town. :pctoss

[DJR210]

Ah fucking hell, I spent all this time and tons of resources to build a metal wall around Sanctuary with only an entrance at the bridge consisting of a long hallway flanked by machine gun turrents to find out that raiders will spawn inside the fucking town. :pctoss

:lmao

I just made a two story fort next to the existing camp and fenced the two in with a couple turrets and some spot lights

Also.. use wood for the bulk of the building, so much more to salvage.

[ElNono]

Ah fucking hell, I spent all this time and tons of resources to build a metal wall around Sanctuary with only an entrance at the bridge consisting of a long hallway flanked by machine gun turrents to find out that raiders will spawn inside the fucking town. :pctoss

crofl... I just put 2 turrets on every camp... the game will let you know when one of the camps is under attack... havent built a wall or roof yet...

Things you should really collect are adhesive (wonder glue, duct tape, etc) and aluminum (cans, etc)... important to upgrade the power armors...

Also, recommend the Local Leader perk, which allows you to establish trade routes between camps, which effectively links the workshop contents on one camp to another.

[baseline bum]

At least there are cheat codes, fuck collecting all that steel and concrete again. I'm going to scrap that entire wall and use cheats to recover the entire resource value of my wall.

[ElNono]

there's tons of steel and concrete on every camp... don't even bother.... you're going to end up with tons of that

Scavenge cars for steel and cinderblocks for concrete

[baseline bum]

there's tons of steel and concrete on every camp... don't even bother.... you're going to end up with tons of that

Scavenge cars for steel and cinderblocks for concrete

I'll need that for building at those camps though. I already scavenged everything in Sanctuary to build that fucking wall. :lol

[baseline bum]

Plus I had been buying lots of steel shit to scrap by selling water. :lol

I built the wall because I wanted to add more water purification to sell but didn't want to get overwhelmed by raiders.

[ElNono]

:lol you went all in with that building/selling shit... I haven't built a store yet... if you keep doing minuteman missions, you're going to find a lot of camps...

[baseline bum]

:lol you went all in with that building/selling shit... I haven't built a store yet... if you keep doing minuteman missions, you're going to find a lot of camps...

I started my character as a real pussy ass motherfucker with high intelligence so I could level quick, and I need to do safe missions to get my guy to a level where I could build good weapons and armor mods. :lol

:lol have been building shit and bringing the old lady drugs for XP

[baseline bum]

Fuck, so I guess I have to move my five story steel skyscraper over one piece at a time to by my workbench. :lmao

[Silver&Black]

Got a buddy who told me the game was awesome...and another who absolutely hates it.

Real talk...is it worth picking up?

[Joseph Kony]

DJR210 how you think this stacks up vs. DL? I'm thinking of buying it because semester is about to end but not sure, want to know how it compares to one of my favorite open world RPG games

[DJR210]

DJR210 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671) how you think this stacks up vs. DL? I'm thinking of buying it because semester is about to end but not sure, want to know how it compares to one of my favorite open world RPG games

Dying Light is great but FO4 is the better game for sure.

[Joseph Kony]

Will I be signing my life away for the next couple months after purchase?

[baseline bum]

DJR210 how you think this stacks up vs. DL? I'm thinking of buying it because semester is about to end but not sure, want to know how it compares to one of my favorite open world RPG games

If you like the other Fallout games or Skyrim, then it's amazing. It had a really nasty framerate bug on XBox One at launch though, I hope it has been fixed but I don't know if so if you're running that system. I have it head an shoulders above Dying Light, and I fucking loved Dying Light.

[The Reckoning]

Fallout 4 is a cardboard copy of Skyrim and it's expansions, particularly hearthfire. And that makes it amazing.

[Leetonidas]

In my experience though Skyrim was so full of bugs and glitches that I literally was not able to finish the main quest so I quit playing it

[Leetonidas]

And that was after the updates with 2 different discs...I was just super unlucky I think :cry