George W. Bush outpolls Barack Obama

[spurraider21]

:lmao

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?ml=po

[ElNono]

:lol det attention span

Although I agree with the article that Bush Sr and Bill were above and beyond these last two guys, despite their own flaws, tbh

[spurraider21]

oh yeah, particularly in the case of Bill. the .com boom certainly was a big factor for the economic success of those years, but Bill has been the best president of my lifetime

dubya was a clown, but i've found it really difficult to like anything about Oblamo

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Obummer
:lmao Even worse president than Dubya
:lmao Next up: Hillary, who will make the last two morons look like Washington and Jefferson by comparison

[boutons_deux]

Americans are so fucking stupid (aka "red states"), so INFAMOUSLY with short memories, so fucking saturated with celebrity/personality/beauty contests/Tee fuckiing Vee fabricated "reality".

Remember that dubya's disapproval was in the cellar as he left office, and way below what happens to every President, including Obama, in 2nd terms.

Obama got a lot of 2008 votes because he was the anti-dubya, the non-Repug-fucker-upper, was a relief from the Repug Reign of Error, 2 bogus, botched wars, Katrina, a fucked economy, failed national defense on 9/11, etc, etc. "just go shopping"

A trip down memory lane:

5 reasons George W. Bush is still one of the worst presidents ever

1) He failed on September 11

Few would disagree that the September 11 (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/september-11) terrorist attacks were a defining moment of Bush’s presidency. As president, his foremost responsibility was bringing the mastermind behind those attacks—al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/osama-bin-laden)—to justice.

Bush failed in this mission. Instead of prioritizing hunting bin Laden down inPakistan (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/pakistan), where he was suspected of hiding (and where Obama (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/obama) promised (http://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2011/may/02/obamas-2008-pledge-kill-osama-bin-laden-promise-ke/) to get him during the 2008 presidential election), Bush waged two costly and ineffective wars. The first was against Afghanistan (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/afghanistan), a nation that harbored bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorists but was not formally governed by them, and the second againstIraq (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/iraq), a nation that had absolutely nothing to do with September 11.

In the process, he significantly damaged America’s reputation overseas (http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/03/05/reviving-americas-global-image/) (which didn’t begin to improve until the beginning of Obama’s presidency (http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/07/23/confidence-in-obama-lifts-us-image-around-the-world/)) and destabilized the Middle East (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/middle-east) in ways that we’re still seeing today (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14/jeb-bush-isis_n_7284558.html). Remember that time Jeb Bush was asked about his brother’s role in creating ISIS (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/isis)? That’s because his brother helped create ISIS.

2) His policies caused the Great Recession

When Bush took office, he inherited a strong economy built by President Bill Clinton: unemployment had fallen from 7.3% to 4.2% (http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_for_president_term.jsp?president =William%20Jefferson%20Clinton), creating more than 22 million jobs (http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/jul/25/sherrod-brown/sherrod-brown-touts-job-grown-during-clinton-presi/) in the process, and the median family income had increased by more than $6,000 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/05/the-clinton-economy-in-charts/).

By comparison, Bush’s presidency only managed to oversee the creation of fewer than 1.1 million jobs (http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2012/10/job_growth_under_us_presidents.html), by far the lowest of any president since Harry Truman, while income inequality expanded at staggering levels (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/08/14/another-legacy-of-president-george-w-bush-massive-income-inequ/). The top 10 percent of American earners pulled in almost half of total wages, the most lopsided wealth distribution since 1917.

Although the economic stagnation became apparent very early in his first term, it didn’t turn into a full-fledged recession until the collapse of America’s financial industry in 2008, after which unemployment shot up (http://scottstanzel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/President-Bush-Monthly-Unemployment-Percent1.jpg) from 6.2 percent in September (the month of the crash) to 7.7 percent in January (the end of Bush’s presidency). This was an average increase of 0.3% per month.

Considering that Bush’s policy of Wall Street deregulation (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/business/worldbusiness/20iht-prexy.4.16321064.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) was largely responsible for the reckless practices of the “too big to fail” banks that brought the economy to its knees, it’s fair to say that this was one of the two most significant fiscal failures of his administration.

The other, of course, was his squandering of the Clinton budget surplus. When Clinton left office in January 2001, he bequeathed America with a projected $1.9 trillion surplus (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=88866). By the time Bush handed the economy off to Obama in 2009, the Congressional Budget Office projected $1.2 trillion in debt (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html), due largely to Bush’s$1.5 trillion in tax cuts (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/revisiting-the-cost-of-the-bush-tax-cuts/2011/05/09/AFxTFtbG_blog.html) to the wealthy, as well as the additional trillions spent on the aforementioned wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

3) He eroded American civil liberties to an unprecedented degree

When Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) cast his vote against the USA PATRIOT Act (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/patriot-act)—the only member of the Senate to do so—he explained (http://www.archipelago.org/vol6-2/feingold.htm) his reasoning as follows:


In the play, A Man for All Seasons, Sir Thomas More questions the bounder Roper whether he would level the forest of English laws to punish the Devil. “What would you do?” More asks, “Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?” Roper affirms, “I’d cut down every law in England to do that.”

To which More replies:

“And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you—where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country’s planted thick with laws from coast to coast… and if you cut them down… d’you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake.”


Feingold’s words proved quite prophetic. From torturing suspected terrorists (http://ccrjustice.org/home/get-involved/tools-resources/inside-ccr/bush-openly-confesses-torture-authorization-no) in clear violation of the Geneva Convention to laying the groundwork for the NSA’s unprecedented domestic spying program (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/nsa-timeline-surveillance), Bush’s post-9/11 legislative initiatives ultimately threatened American freedom more than Osama bin Laden’s schemes ever managed to do.



America’s surveillance age hasn’t made the world any safer from terrorism, sacrificing your privacy for what’s proving to be nothing more an endless war on America’s own people.


4) He bungled his response to Hurricane Katrina

Believe it or not, it isn’t that difficult for a president to effectively manage disaster relief after a hurricane: Lyndon Johnson famously mastered (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/10/03/high-water) the aftermath of Hurricane Betsy in 1965, while Barack Obama’s response to Hurricane Sandy was so effective that it was erroneously credited (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/04/hurricane-sandy-won-president-obama) for his reelection in 2012.

By contrast, Bush utterly failed when Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on the Gulf Coast in 2005—a subsequent report (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/11/AR2006021101409.html) by the House of Representatives found that his administration disregarded numerous warnings of the threat to New Orleans (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/new-orleans), did not execute emergency plans, and neglected to share information between different departments that could have saved lives.

5) When it came to one of the biggest civil rights issue of his time, he placed himself on the wrong side of history

When future historians look back at the early 21st century, there is little question that they will view the campaign for LGBT (http://www.dailydot.com/tags/lgbt) equality as one of the major civil rights movements of the era. Yet not only did Bush fail to advocate on behalf of the LGBT community (despite his vice president having a lesbian daughter (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/within-cheney-family-a-dispute-over-gay-marriage/) and his party being chaired by a closeted gay man, (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/08/bush-campaign-chief-and-former-rnc-chair-ken-mehlman-im-gay/62065/) Ken Mehlman, during his second term), but he actively exploited (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2010/08/rnc-chair-mehlman-gay-comes-out) anti-gay bigotry during his reelection campaign in 2004. This was particularly the case in states like Ohio, where its pull among so-called “value voters” (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001437.html) played a considerable role (alongside racially based voter suppression (http://www.thenation.com/blog/177454/ohio-gop-resurrects-voter-suppression-efforts)) in Bush’s winning that state—and with it, the general election.

None of this means that George W. Bush is a bad human being, or even that he set out to cause harm to the nation he professes to love. At the same time,

no bounce in his approval rating can eclipse the damage that he did while in office.

More Americans may like Bush than dislike him right now, but when his legacy is ultimately appraised, the final verdict will not be a kind one.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/07/5_reasons_george_w_bush_is_still_one_of_the_worst_ presidents_ever_partner/

So now you ignorant rednecks list ALL THE GREAT THINGS dubya's years REALLY achieved. :lol

The Katrina angle was more than bungling by "the MBA presidency". MBAs! :lol dubya folded the previously-excellent-FEMA-under-Clinton into the DISASTROUS Department of Heimat Security and put hilariously incompetent, unqualified "heckuva job, Brownie" as the director. Two years later when Katrina hit, Brownie's FEMA delivered its own storm of Repugs-fucking-everything-up.

[Clipper Nation]

Nice spam, but nobody thinks Dubya is anything other than a complete joke of a president. That's why Obummer is being ridiculed for polling even less favorably than Dubya.

[boutons_deux]

Nice spam, but nobody thinks Dubya is anything other than a complete joke of a president. That's why Obummer is being ridiculed for polling even less favorably than Dubya.

not nice spam, but great facts.

Still waiting for you rightwingnutters to list all the great things dubya did, and all the horrible things Obama has done, and more specifically, all the great things Obama/Dems wanted to do but were obstructed by the Repugs, as the Repugs have continued to crater the recovery from the Repug Banksters Great Depression.

you rightwingnutjubs are 100% faith-based, faith that's easily destroyed with facts.

[baseline bum]

oh yeah, particularly in the case of Bill. the .com boom certainly was a big factor for the economic success of those years, but Bill has been the best president of my lifetime

dubya was a clown, but i've found it really difficult to like anything about Oblamo

I hate Clinton, he's right behind Bush Jr for the worst of my lifetime for how he fell asleep on regulating derivatives, just taking Greenspan's shit for gospel. Bush Sr is far and away the best president of my lifetime.

[baseline bum]

:lmao Next up: Hillary, who will make the last two morons look like Washington and Jefferson by comparison

This country is fucked when it's going to be Clinton vs Walker, this will be even worse than Bush vs Gore or Obama vs Romney.

[spurraider21]

To be fair I was a year old when bill took office. Plus he gets bonus points for being the first black president

[m>s]

Why can't they both fuck off

[Blizzardwizard]

:lmao Obummer
:lmao Even worse president than Dubya
:lmao Next up: Hillary, who will make the last two morons look like Washington and Jefferson by comparison

Roosevelt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bush Jr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hoover>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Paul as President.

[ChumpDumper]

Obama's approval rating will be higher when he is out of office as well. Nature of the beast.

[Clipper Nation]

Roosevelt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clinton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bush Jr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hoover>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Paul as President.
Ron would have been the greatest and most popular POTUS of all time, with all the liberty and prosperity he'd be bringing.

[Clipper Nation]

not nice spam, but great facts.

Still waiting for you rightwingnutters to list all the great things dubya did, and all the horrible things Obama has done, and more specifically, all the great things Obama/Dems wanted to do but were obstructed by the Repugs, as the Repugs have continued to crater the recovery from the Repug Banksters Great Depression.

you rightwingnutjubs are 100% faith-based, faith that's easily destroyed with facts.
You do realize that there are plenty of "rightwingnutters" who think Dubya was a joke and one of the worst presidents ever, right?

But here's my list of great things he did:

1. Got the fuck out of office
2. Didn't grab for extra terms like FDR

[ChumpDumper]

Ron would have been the greatest and most popular POTUS of all time, with all the liberty and prosperity he'd be bringing.lol

[ChumpDumper]

You do realize that there are plenty of "rightwingnutters" who think Dubya was a joke and one of the worst presidents ever, right?

But here's my list of great things he did:

1. Got the fuck out of office
2. Didn't grab for extra terms like FDRBushy couldn't run for a third term.

[Clipper Nation]

Bushy couldn't run for a third term.
The Constitution meant nothing to Bushy or his cronies, as we saw during his time in office.

[ChumpDumper]

The Constitution meant nothing to Bushy or his cronies, as we saw during his time in office.The 22nd amendment did.

[Clipper Nation]

The 22nd amendment did.
Which is why I listed that as one of the only good things he's done. It's a good thing he didn't treat the 22nd Amendment like he treated the War Powers Clause or the 4th Amendment.

Then again, we ended up getting two more terms of Dubya anyway under the stage name Barack Obama.

[boutons_deux]

You do realize that there are plenty of "rightwingnutters" who think Dubya was a joke and one of the worst presidents ever, right?

But here's my list of great things he did:

1. Got the fuck out of office
2. Didn't grab for extra terms like FDR

rightwingnutters voted him and all Repugs into office, repeatedly, thanks!

elections have consequences, and you rightwingnutters enabled the Repugs to slaughter, to waste 6000 US military lives in Afghanistatn and Iraq.

Next time, vote for somebody's policies, rather than his beer-drinking amiability.

[Clipper Nation]

rightwingnutters voted him and all Repugs into office, repeatedly, thanks!

elections have consequences, and you rightwingnutters enabled the Repugs to slaughter, to waste 6000 US military lives in Afghanistatn and Iraq.

Next time, vote for somebody's policies, rather than his beer-drinking amiability.
I never voted for Dubya, and he only won because he faced weak competition and he lied his ass off to begin with by running on a platform of smaller government and no more nation-building in 2000.

[Blizzardwizard]

You do realize that there are plenty of "rightwingnutters" who think Dubya was a joke and one of the worst presidents ever, right?

But here's my list of great things he did:

1. Got the fuck out of office
2. Didn't grab for extra terms like FDR

Yeah but Bush was shit and got outta there before he was assassinated by Al Qaeda. And on FDR, wouldn't you grab extra terms if you were single handedly fixing a country to prevent it from being fucked again?

[ChumpDumper]

Which is why I listed that as one of the only good things he's done. It's a good thing he didn't treat the 22nd Amendment like he treated the War Powers Clause or the 4th Amendment.How did he violate that?

[Infinite_limit]

not nice spam, but great facts.

Obama inherited an easier situation [most initial Presidential support since Reagan?] than the one Bush was thrusted into after 9/11

I'm not about to credit Obama for continuing a War instead of starting one. He wasn't in Office and probably would have reacted in mostly the same manner. Especially if it occurred early on in Obama's Presidency when he was a complete pushover for the Republicans.

Socially I think Obama has been MUCH worse than GWB. And cultural wise call him the divider



The only Obama bright spots
- Initial excitement/bringing the nation together
- Not sending weapons to Ukraine
- Being one of the few American politicians to not blow that circumcized netanyahu

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah but Bush was shit and got outta there before he was assassinated by Al Qaeda. And on FDR, wouldn't you grab extra terms if you were single handedly fixing a country to prevent it from being fucked again?
He didn't do shit. It took WWII, post-WWII spending cuts, and the JFK tax cuts to finally fix the economy after FDR had screwed it up even worse.

And no, I wouldn't go for two extra terms. The two-term tradition dates back to Washington. Grabbing for more just makes you look greedy and power-hungry, but what else can you expect from the guy who also tried to stack the Supreme Court with his cronies?

[Clipper Nation]

How did he violate that?
Dubya pushed the Authorization of Military Force, an act that completely contradicts the War Powers Clause, through a Congress that was obviously going to be extremely self-conscious about appearing "soft on terrorism" in any way considering what had just happened days earlier.

As for the 4th Amendment, the Patriot Act was a flagrant violation of our right to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures.

Since you live to argue in every thread on this site, I look forward to seeing how you - a bleeding-heart libtard - spin shit to defend George W. Bush of all people.

[SnakeBoy]

Ron would have been the greatest and most popular POTUS of all time, with all the liberty and prosperity he'd be bringing.

:lol That might be the funniest sentence I've ever seen posted on ST.

[Blizzardwizard]

He didn't do shit. It took WWII, post-WWII spending cuts, and the JFK tax cuts to finally fix the economy after FDR had screwed it up even worse.

And no, I wouldn't go for two extra terms. The two-term tradition dates back to Washington. Grabbing for more just makes you look greedy and power-hungry, but what else can you expect from the guy who also tried to stack the Supreme Court with his cronies?

FDR didn't do shit? Now I know you're Libertarian but come on son that's stretching the truth quite a bit..

[boutons_deux]

He didn't do shit. It took WWII, post-WWII spending cuts

:lol CN parroting the VRWC/Heritage/Cato FDR trashing points.

They've hated FDR for 80 years for minimum wage, 40 hour week, social security, union protections, MASSIVE GOVT spending (aka Keynesian counter-cyclical spending) to build hydroelectric dams (Las Vegas says thanks!), flood control, rural electrification (rednecks in the Tennessee Valley Authority and everywhere say thanks, Franklin!), Glass-Steagal to throttle the financial sector, etc, etc.

FDR's fault was that he cut back govt spending too soon, aka AUSTERITY (ALWAYS FAILS), and the country began to slide back.

Then MASSIVE govt spending after Pearl Harbor got the country moving again. Meanwhile, the financial sector, 1%, BigCorp did fuck all except benefit from MASSIVE FDR SPENDING, creating Ms of jobs and $Bs in wealth.

[vander]

one of the worst Repub/conservative vs. probably the best socialist/lib...

[Clipper Nation]

:lol CN parroting the VRWC/Heritage/Cato FDR trashing points.

They've hated FDR for 80 years for minimum wage, 40 hour week, social security, union protections, MASSIVE GOVT spending (aka Keynesian counter-cyclical spending) to build hydroelectric dams (Las Vegas says thanks!), flood control, rural electrification (rednecks in the Tennessee Valley Authority and everywhere say thanks, Franklin!), Glass-Steagal to throttle the financial sector, etc, etc.

FDR's fault was that he cut back govt spending too soon, aka AUSTERITY (ALWAYS FAILS), and the country began to slide back.

Then MASSIVE govt spending after Pearl Harbor got the country moving again. Meanwhile, the financial sector, 1%, BigCorp did fuck all except benefit from MASSIVE FDR SPENDING, creating Ms of jobs and $Bs in wealth.
Actual quote from FDR's treasury secretary: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!"

The reality is, FDR left office with average unemployment actually higher than it was the year before he took office, and the introduction of New Deal Part II actually made the unemployment rate skyrocket back up. He barely made a dent in the national debt, and the cost of doing business rose by 40%, which proved fatal for small businesses. Industrial production remained below 1929 levels. At the height of his anti-business zeal, FDR pretty much single-handedly halted expansion, equipment purchases and other private investment with the undistributed profits tax. The New Deal is one of the most overrated and overhyped crocks of bullshit in American history.

[ChumpDumper]

Dubya pushed the Authorization of Military Force, an act that completely contradicts the War Powers Clause, through a Congress that was obviously going to be extremely self-conscious about appearing "soft on terrorism" in any way considering what had just happened days earlier.So the Congress authorized Bush to use the military and he did. Where is the violation here?


As for the 4th Amendment, the Patriot Act was a flagrant violation of our right to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures.Parts of it have been ruled unconstitutional already, so you'll have to be more specific.


Since you live to argue in every thread on this site, I look forward to seeing how you - a bleeding-heart libtard - spin shit to defend George W. Bush of all people.None of that changes his incompetence and terrible judgment. It is possible to follow the roles and suck.

[Blizzardwizard]

The New Deal is one of the most overrated and overhyped crocks of bullshit in American history.

Nah, you just won't accept that a Progressive, maybe socialist style reform (gasp) gave poor people jobs and that 'Big Government' saved the economy.

Libertarians: "Damn government, giving people jobs! The government should leave them in their Hoovervilles to die :cry! They don't want government support! :cry :cry"

[DMX7]

I approve of the fact that George W Bush is no longer in office. I think most people do .

[spurraider21]

Parts of it have been ruled unconstitutional already, so you'll have to be more specific. when were those parts found to be unconstitutional?


None of that changes his incompetence and terrible judgment. It is possible to follow the roles and suck.
Do you think bush followed all the rules?

[ChumpDumper]

when were those parts found to be unconstitutional?Like 2004 IIRC.



Do you think bush followed all the rules?All? I didn't say that. But I saw no violation of war powers and the PATRIOT Act played out in the courts like other laws have been. Doesn't mean I agree with either.

[spurraider21]

Like 2004 IIRC.
so would it be fair to say that in the time between the passage of the patriot act and 2004... that some of bush's actions violated the constitution?


All? I didn't say that. But I saw no violation of war powers and the PATRIOT Act played out in the courts like other laws have been. Doesn't mean I agree with either.
so do you think bush ever violated the constitution?

[ChumpDumper]

so would it be fair to say that in the time between the passage of the patriot act and 2004... that some of bush's actions violated the constitution?I doubt it would have even been that long considering the judicial and appeals process -- the process to which I had alluded.



so do you think bush ever violated the constitution?I wouldn't doubt it; I do not have the full accounting of all his actions while in office. If you have assumed I said he never did in any case, you have done so in error.

[boutons_deux]

George W. Bush on the Stump: Suckers Really Are Born Every Minute

Good heavens, the going rate for malaprops (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/on-talk-circuit-george-bush-makes-millions-but-few-waves-118697.html) has soared.


Since 2009, POLITICO has found, Bush has given at least 200 paid speeches and probably many more, typically pocketing $100,000 to $175,000 per appearance.

The part-time work, which rarely requires more than an hour on stage, has earned him tens of millions of dollars.

Relative to the Clintons, though, he's attracted considerably less attention, almost always doing his paid public speaking in private, in convention centers and hotel ballrooms, resorts and casinos, from Canada to Asia, from New York to Miami, from all over Texas to Las Vegas a bunch, playing his part in what has become a lucrative staple of the modern post-presidency.


Yes, fools and their money continue to be pretty easily parted.

He has talked to the National Grocers Association and the National Association for Home Care and Hospice and the National Association of Chain Drug Stores.

He's talked to global wealth management firms and multinational energy companies.

He has talked to motivational seminars and boat builders and something called the Work Truck Show.

He has talked to the chambers of commerce in San Diego and Wichita. "Evil is real," he said (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/02/13/former_president_george_w_bush_on_isis_evil_is_rea l.html) at the University of Mary Hardin-Baylor in Belton, Texas.

"Bowling is fun," he said (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/historic-moment-for-bowling-former-us-president-george-w-bush-participates-in-roundtable-discussion-at-international-bowl-expo-2014-264621331.html) at a get-together for the Bowling Proprietors' Association of America in Orlando.

"History will ultimately judge whether I made the right decisions or not," he said (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/president-george-w-bush-inspires-packed-house-at-asi-dallas-show-244076561.html) at a gathering put on by the Advertising Specialty Institute in Dallas.


Good god, 175-G's for "Bowling is fun"? I am so in the wrong racket.

And give props to Mike Kruse, Tiger Beat On The Potomac's best hire ever, for the finest in deadpan humor.

Bush seems not to make as many foreign trips, either, preferring Texas and Mandalay Bay and the Golden Nugget in Vegas to the rest of the world.


Plus there are no pesky extradition problems in Vegas.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a35542/george-w-bush-speaking-money/

War Crime is FUN and LUCRATIVE!

[SupremeGuy]

No one should be surprised, tbh. Other than the blind MSNBC sheep, you'll almost never hear anyone speak positively about Barry or his presidency.

[boutons_deux]

Actual quote from FDR's treasury secretary: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!"

The reality is, FDR left office with average unemployment actually higher than it was the year before he took office, and the introduction of New Deal Part II actually made the unemployment rate skyrocket back up. He barely made a dent in the national debt, and the cost of doing business rose by 40%, which proved fatal for small businesses. Industrial production remained below 1929 levels. At the height of his anti-business zeal, FDR pretty much single-handedly halted expansion, equipment purchases and other private investment with the undistributed profits tax. The New Deal is one of the most overrated and overhyped crocks of bullshit in American history.

the VRWC has been trashing FDR for 80 years, and LBJ for 50 years. VRWC trashes any PROGRESS that doesn't involve enriching the VRWC.

[Nbadan]

I approve of the fact that George W Bush is no longer in office. I think most people do .

:toast