More "transparency" from Obummer

[Clipper Nation]

The Obama administration (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/obama-administration) has asked a secret surveillance court to ignore a federal court that found bulk surveillance illegal and to once again grant the National Security Agency the power to collect the phone records of millions of Americans for six months.

The legal request, filed nearly four hours after Barack Obama (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/barack-obama) vowed to sign a new law banning precisely the bulk collection he asks the secret court to approve, also suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/obama-fisa-court-surveillance-phone-records

In before the usual excuse that "the surveillance state can never be slowed down by any president" that a certain shill would never make for a "Repug" president.

[boutons_deux]

[/COLOR][/FONT]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/obama-fisa-court-surveillance-phone-records

In before the usual excuse that "the surveillance state can never be slowed down by any president" that a certain shill would never make for a "Repug" president.


Do you think McLiar, Bishop Gecko, or any of the current riders in the Repug Klown Kar would do any different?

Even Wombat Hair would flush his libertarian fraud show and bow to the Deep State/Surveillance state.

[TheSanityAnnex]

First reply excuse as predicted lol

[boutons_deux]

First reply excuse as predicted lol

dickless gun fellator TSA has nothing say.

[spurraider21]

Do you think McLiar, Bishop Gecko, or any of the current riders in the Repug Klown Kar would do any different?

Even Wombat Hair would flush his libertarian fraud show and bow to the Deep State/Surveillance state.
i thought oblamo was supposed to be different

[boutons_deux]

i thought oblamo was supposed to be different

none of them are different dealing with Deep State/Surveillance State, which is a govt unto itself.

I read where mysterious Seal Team 6 is now a planet-wide murder squad with unknown accountability, go anywhere, kill anyone. Collateral dead innocents or outright mistakes: tuff shit.

[ElNono]

How is Barry "dealing" with Deep State/Surveillance State? He's blatantly supporting and encouraging it...

[boutons_deux]

How is Barry "dealing" with Deep State/Surveillance State? He's blatantly supporting and encouraging it...

He's letting it run itself, not that he or any President or Congress and "rein it in".

[Clipper Nation]

none of them are different dealing with Deep State/Surveillance State, which is a govt unto itself.

You weren't making this excuse when Dubya was in office:


You have no comment on the NSA spying on the US citizens without judiciary permission and oversight?

faux macho dubya caught again with his Brokeback Wranglers around his ankles and the press's relentless dick up his ass.

[vy65]

none of them are different dealing with Deep State/Surveillance State, which is a govt unto itself.

I read where mysterious Seal Team 6 is now a planet-wide murder squad with unknown accountability, go anywhere, kill anyone. Collateral dead innocents or outright mistakes: tuff shit.

Am I the only one who thinks this'd make a badass movie?

[TheSanityAnnex]

dickless gun fellator TSA has nothing say.

Obama has abused this far more than Bush and continues to do so.

[Clipper Nation]

You weren't making this excuse when Dubya was in office:

Dickless DNC fellator boutons_shill has nothing to say.

[pgardn]

He's letting it run itself, not that he or any President or Congress and "rein it in".

Bullshit.

[ElNono]

He's letting it run itself, not that he or any President or Congress and "rein it in".

He was heavily involved in the US "Freedom" Act... doesn't sound like "letting it run itself"...

[Nbadan]

Get off Obama' nads....there is not one living President who dare stand up to the surveillance state...

[Clipper Nation]

Get off Obama' nads....there is not one living President who dare stand up to the surveillance state...

Another libtard who was singing a different tune when Red Team was in office.


Flip-Flop

"Constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."

-- President Bush, April 20, 2004, remarks on USA Patriot Act

White House.gov (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html)


It's (the Constitution) just a god-damn piece of paper, right?

:lol


..And to think it only took a few illegal wire-taps and a break-in to the DNC office in Washington to get Nixon impeached.

[Nbadan]

McCain and Romney would have put a stop to this!


:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

McCain and Romney would have put a stop to this!


:lmao
You expected Dubya to do so, why aren't you holding Obummer to the same standard?

[boutons_deux]

He was heavily involved in the US "Freedom" Act... doesn't sound like "letting it run itself"...

Freedom Act, etc is a charade, the surveillance state/Deep State will carry on as before.

[Clipper Nation]

You weren't making this excuse when Dubya was in office:
Still no response from the dickless Dem fellator.

[Wild Cobra]

Keep in mind this is a liberty vs. authority issue, not republican vs. democrat or liberal vs. conservative.

There are equally guilty among both parties.

[Nbadan]

You expected Dubya to do so, why aren't you holding Obummer to the same standard?

:rolleyes

I am..


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday said she’s preparing a fact sheet for Democrats on the differences between President Obama’s and President George W. Bush’s spying activities.

Pelosi called for leaker Edward Snowden to be prosecuted and suggested the Obama-backed programs had stopped terrorist plots, but was quick to contrast the secret surveillance programs of Obama to those under Bush.

She noted that Bush had acted unilaterally while Obama secured an order from a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court, and said the fact sheet would highlight for her members those differences – an indication that the Democrats intend to hammer home the distinctions between the two administrations when it comes to executive oversight.

She also reiterated her calls to strengthen a long-dormant government panel, the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which is designed to ensure that the NSA's surveillances activities don't encroach too far on civil liberties.

http://thehill.com/video/house/305335-pelosi-calls-for-snowdens-prosecution#ixzz2WBtWglzz

[Nbadan]

Timeline: How Obama Compares to Bush on Torture, Surveillance and Detention

In his second inaugural address, President Obama declared that “a decade of war is now ending.” Troops have left Iraq, and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, But Obama has expanded shadow drone wars beyond Afghanistan and has maintained some of President Bush’s controversial national security policies. Here’s a look at how much has changed — and how much has stayed the same.

http://i.imgur.com/E7KKY.jpg

[Nbadan]

On Civil Liberties, Comparing Obama With Bush Is Easy — And Mostly Wrong
Last edited Thu Jul 11, 2013, 12:37 AM - Edit history (1)
June 14th, 2013 by Joe Conason


...Consider the single most important surveillance controversy of the Bush era, namely the warrantless wiretapping undertaken on the president’s orders. In December 2005, the New York Times revealed that Bush had authorized the NSA to monitor phone calls and emails originating in U.S. territory, without obtaining warrants as required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. (That’s why it was called “warrantless.”) For the first time since Watergate – and the intelligence reforms resulting from that true scandal — the U.S. government had eavesdropped on Americans’ conversations without seeking the permission of a judge.

Only months before, Bush had claimed publicly that he was a steward of civil liberties and that his agents always got a court order before implementing a wiretap. But his administration had been using warrantless wiretaps ever since the 9/11 attacks.

Those trespasses against liberty went considerably further than the collection of metadata by the NSA. No reports indicate that the Obama administration violated existing law to eavesdrop on any American — or listened to any calls without the sanction of the special FISA court.

Yet reaction to the recent stories about the NSA’s policies has been far more intense than eight years ago. Pundits and politicians have compared Obama unfavorably with Richard Nixon, berating him as a tyrannical betrayer of civil liberties. A few prominent Republicans even seem determined to ruin the NSA, solely because they wish to embarrass the president – a motive that other Republicans attribute to Snowden, whom they vilify as a traitor...

http://www.nationalmemo.com/on-civil-liberties-comparing-obama-with-bush-is-easy-and-mostly-wrong/

Let me repeat the most important part again for you wing-nuts...

No reports indicate that the Obama administration violated existing law to eavesdrop on any American — or listened to any calls without the sanction of the special FISA court.