View Full Version : Cavs: Does Lebron deserve FMVP even if they lose?
ambchang
06-12-2015, 01:11 PM
As it stands right now, nobody on the GSW clearly deserves to win.
OTOH, Lebron is clearly the best player on the floor.
Does he deserve to be the first player since West to win FMVP despite being on the losing team? If not, who deserves it?
If curry goes supernova even one it'll be his to lose. If iggy stays a starter maybe. But yeah I remember talking about this in the days before 6, when people thought Danny green had a chance.
Mitch
06-12-2015, 01:24 PM
The loser shouldn't get praised like West did.
ambchang
06-12-2015, 01:27 PM
West was more of a loser. Learn your history Mitch
Koolaid_Man
06-12-2015, 01:27 PM
As it stands right now, nobody on the GSW clearly deserves to win.
OTOH, Lebron is clearly the best player on the floor.
Does he deserve to be the first player since West to win FMVP despite being on the losing team? If not, who deserves it?
How bout we give it to Stanky Tammy :lol
ambchang
06-12-2015, 01:31 PM
How bout we give it to Stanky Tammy :lol
Hold on, I will float this by my Grade 4 grand nephew and see if he thought it was funny.
Koolaid_Man
06-12-2015, 01:33 PM
All you ambchangs are dumb as fuck so no need :lol
ambchang
06-12-2015, 01:35 PM
All you ambchangs are dumb as fuck so no need :lol
How can I be as smart as you? I mean, Stanky Tammy, just a stroke of genius, aint' it?
Galileo
06-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Lebron is shooting 39% FG. Terrible. No player has jacked up and missed more shots in the Finals than Lebron.
Mikeanaro
06-12-2015, 01:45 PM
NO, he deserves a giant picture of his weenie and a free pack of chorizos.
Silver&Black
06-12-2015, 02:22 PM
JR Smith is the best player on the Dubs....
InRareForm
06-12-2015, 02:42 PM
Giving it to loser is just an awkward move
Infinite_limit
06-12-2015, 02:45 PM
Giving it to loser is just an awkward move
Especially when said loser is chucking an astonishing 33%
Aztecfan03
06-12-2015, 03:24 PM
As it stands right now, nobody on the GSW clearly deserves to win.
OTOH, Lebron is clearly the best player on the floor.
Does he deserve to be the first player since West to win FMVP despite being on the losing team? If not, who deserves it?
Same thing probably could have been said last year.
Infinite_limit
06-12-2015, 03:28 PM
Iguodala has been the most consistent player on the court
14.8 PPG
5.5 TRB
3.0 AST
57%
40% from 3
Aztecfan03
06-12-2015, 03:49 PM
Iguodala has been the most consistent player on the court
14.8 PPG
5.5 TRB
3.0 AST
57%
40% from 3
for comparison:
Kawhi's FMVP
17.8 PPG
6.4 TRB
2.0 AST
61%
58% from 3
Kawhi also had twice the steals rate and block rate, better ft%, but worse on turnovers/game
I guess delly wins by default.amazing.
dg7md
06-12-2015, 04:03 PM
If curry goes supernova even one it'll be his to lose. If iggy stays a starter maybe. But yeah I remember talking about this in the days before 6, when people thought Danny green had a chance.
He was going to, if we finished the job.
I still can't believe we didn't.
And to OP, yes, LeBron deserves it if he restores himself back to Game 1-3 status for the next few games, if not, Iguodala deserves it unless Curry suddenly starts making a difference on the court.
LkrFan
06-12-2015, 04:05 PM
Yes, for the LULZ. :lol
ducks
06-12-2015, 04:31 PM
for comparison:
Kawhi's FMVP
17.8 PPG
6.4 TRB
2.0 AST
61%
58% from 3
Kawhi also had twice the steals rate and block rate, better ft%, but worse on turnovers/game
Leonard is fishing
The FMVP goes to the most important player on the winning team. Shaq had a good series against Detroit in 2004, better than any Piston, but they lost, so he didn't deserve FMVP.
StrengthAndHonor
06-12-2015, 04:51 PM
Giving it to loser is just an awkward move
I agree. I mean, how can you acknowledge their value when they lose? At this time Iggy deserves it more than anyone else. He's by far the most valuable player for the Warriors.
spurraider21
06-12-2015, 04:53 PM
If the Cavs win the mvp should be Kevin Love tbh. He has a monstrous impact on the team, and his absence has been absolutely pivotal imo
Probably, but if Steph shows up in even one of the next games, he will win in on the popular vote alone.
ducks
06-12-2015, 05:34 PM
james is one big reason cavs blowing leads late no points in 4 quarter again in game 4 of finals
ambchang
06-13-2015, 06:51 AM
Same thing probably could have been said last year.
Kawhi had a solid streak of three games at the end though. GSW has yet have a person of that impact so far.
That said, Kawhi was pretty bad the first two games.
TDMVPDPOY
06-13-2015, 10:27 AM
oi Franklin
a asian friend of a friend from highschool roflmao
just bought a house plan for 1m not built yet
well the wife cucked him for a white junior worker...
now both have moved out and starting divorce preparations...
ffadicted
06-13-2015, 10:33 AM
No. Shouldn't have ever and should never happen
hater
06-13-2015, 10:42 AM
Then parker shoulda won in 13 and Durant in 12
Great logic behind this thread
Koolaid_Man
06-13-2015, 10:58 AM
As it stands right now, nobody on the GSW clearly deserves to win.
OTOH, Lebron is clearly the best player on the floor.
Does he deserve to be the first player since West to win FMVP despite being on the losing team? If not, who deserves it?
Lol thread backfire
ambchang
06-13-2015, 11:12 AM
Lol thread backfire
What was the purpose of this thread?
Franklin
06-13-2015, 08:45 PM
oi Franklin (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=26380)
a asian friend of a friend from highschool roflmao
just bought a house plan for 1m not built yet
well the wife cucked him for a white junior worker...
now both have moved out and starting divorce preparations...
nothing new tbh, that's why it's smart of you to live a celibate life like I do if you live in such a shithold continent known as Asia tbh, bitches here have no sense of sin or mercy.
The loser shouldn't get praised like West did.
Especially since West didn't even repeat. The fucking logo couldn't repeat, and look at you.
Mitch
06-13-2015, 09:03 PM
Especially since West didn't even repeat. The fucking logo couldn't repeat, and look at you.
I'm not the NBA and I don't cite West.
Fabbs
06-13-2015, 09:03 PM
Lebron is shooting 39% FG. Terrible. No player has jacked up and missed more shots in the Finals than Lebron.
Kirbs Kryant 2008 and 2010.
Of course he had an All Star frontline to rebound his chucks.
Plus when Kirbs chucked, missed, and got bailed out by rigged reffin that did not go in the stats as a shot attempt.
I'm not the NBA and I don't cite West.
This we know.
Mitch
06-13-2015, 09:35 PM
This we know.
He lost and was rewarded, I stand by it.
HemisfairArena
06-13-2015, 09:41 PM
People bring up LeBrons shooting percentage but don't bring up the rest like his rebounds and assists and the fact he is carrying a 7 man rotation of rejects,,,,last time Kobrick tried to carry a team of rejects like smush parker, odom, mihm, ect,,,,they missed the playoffs.
He lost and was rewarded, I stand by it.
That's good to know.
TDMVPDPOY
06-14-2015, 05:45 AM
giving bron the fmvp for being a loser, he will either take it, or just throw it in the bin somewhere
then again nobody wants to see steph win mvp and fmvp fark that clown
MultiTroll
06-14-2015, 11:19 PM
People bring up LeBrons shooting percentage but don't bring up the rest like his rebounds and assists and the fact he is carrying a 7 man rotation of rejects,,,,last time Kobrick tried to carry a team of rejects like smush parker, odom, mihm, ect,,,,they missed the playoffs.
Easily the Finals MVP so far.
Bunch of Currys shots tonight were Bonner like.
Way ahead, zero D being played by gassed Delly.
FromWayDowntown
06-15-2015, 09:56 AM
The only reason that anyone is considering giving it to a player on the losing team is because that player is Lebron.
Imagine if this was Cleveland against OKC with Cleveland up 3-2. If Westbrook had 36.6, 12.4, 8.8 (on less than 40% shooting) and was losing, and Lebron had 36.2, 5.0., 5.8 (on almost 45% shooting; Curry's numbers through 5 games), everyone would be talking about Westbrook having numbers that look really good, but there would be no doubt that if Cleveland closed it out, Lebron would be Finals MVP.
hater
06-15-2015, 10:03 AM
The only reason that anyone is considering giving it to a player on the losing team is because that player is Lebron.
Imagine if this was Cleveland against OKC with Cleveland up 3-2. If Westbrook had 36.6, 12.4, 8.8 (on less than 40% shooting) and was losing, and Lebron had 36.2, 5.0., 5.8 (on almost 45% shooting; Curry's numbers through 5 games), everyone would be talking about Westbrook having numbers that look really good, but there would be no doubt that if Cleveland closed it out, Lebron would be Finals MVP.
You lost me at westbrook
Thebesteva
06-15-2015, 10:06 AM
It's only ever happened once and you can tell from the NBA's body of work that it was a mistake that one time. Finals MVP is no longer who was the best player in the finals but has been REDEFINED into who was the best player for the winning team.
But obviously Lebron has been the best player in the series.
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