Lebron in these Finals..

[Malik Hairston]

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:wow:wow

[Stevie Johnson]

:lmao Two years in a row that the player matched up with him wins FMVP

[timtonymanu]

Just needed one of Kyrie or Love in the series.

Good stuff though, LeBron.

[Stevie Johnson]

Just needed one of Kyrie or Love in the series.

Good stuff though, LeBron.
Stop kissing ass punk

[Thebesteva]

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[Bynumite]

Go ahead and fap to Lebeta's stat-padding as long as he doesn't ring :toast

[FkLA]

:cry who cares that he had no help though, 2-4 in the Finals :cry

[Malik Hairston]

According to sports scientists that gathered this week, Lebron's workload was inhumane in this series:lol..

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13071387/lebron-james-unfathomable-workload

[LkrFan]

:lmao Two years in a row that the player matched up with him wins FMVP/End Thread :lmao

[davethedope]

truth be told, it'd be sad if he had never won one, but he has 2* and it's like his losing adds a special character to this era.

Personally I'll miss it when it's over, so appreciate the King while we have him.

[Alex's foreskin]

Shooting 39% :lmao

[Alex's foreskin]

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:lmao

[LkrFan]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11039335_10153054599807637_3635711602970589699_n.j pg?oh=77320b1cf9d808cb358b62688f82303b&oe=562C2D78Oh shit! :lmao Clipper Nation

[Stevie Johnson]

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:lol Clipper Nation

[Koolaid_Man]

Love and Kyrie would have only made it maybe a tad bit closer....them two niggas soft as fresh baked cookies....they play NO defense....there would have been none of them offensive rebounds....and no tough defense on Curry....GS played down to the level of competition...they would have still mopped the floor with the Cavs

[313]

LeBron averaged 20 missed shots per game in the Finals. They would have killed Kobe for that kind of stat. What was his usage rate? It's similar to Westbrook's situation where they're running the entire offense ran through him so of course he's going to put up numbers.

His rebounding numbers were very impressive though.

[Alex's foreskin]

LeBron averaged 20 missed shots per game in the Finals. They would have killed Kobe for that kind of stat. What was his usage rate? It's similar to Westbrook's situation where they're running the entire offense ran through him so of course he's going to put up numbers.

His rebounding numbers were very impressive though.
:lol

[ffadicted]

Impressive that he can put up those kinds of numbers, but people give players like Kobe and etc shit all the fucking time for inflated stats on less than impressive shooting percentages because of shitty teammates.

Very very impressive showing, but nonetheless, they lost. They lost because he didn't have help, and those stats reflect that loss more than anything. Hard putting it up there as a "great finals performance of all time" when they lost. At the end of the day, all that matters is winning.

[Malik Hairston]

:lol Kobe got criticized for shooting too much on teams that had the best frontcourt in the league and a massive size advantage against virtually every opponent they player against..I don't know why people don't seem to understand that, tbh..

[Koolaid_Man]

I dont give a fuck..im just glad that nikka lost

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Kobe got criticized for shooting too much on teams that had the best frontcourt in the league and a massive size advantage against virtually every opponent they player against..I don't know why people don't seem to understand that, tbh..

And for shooting too much as the twelfth option when his teams were stacked with better, less scrubbish players than him.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol Kobe got criticized for shooting too much on teams that had the best frontcourt in the league and a massive size advantage against virtually every opponent they player against..I don't know why people don't seem to understand that, tbh..

Naw dawg stop with that revisionist history...when Kobe played with pure fucking trash like Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, and all them other fucking scrubs...they said the same gotdam SHIT...

[FkLA]

:lol Kobe got criticized for shooting too much on teams that had the best frontcourt in the league and a massive size advantage against virtually every opponent they player against..I don't know why people don't seem to understand that, tbh..

:lol Bunch of morons in here. More comparable would be the 05-07 Kirby Lakers and we all saw how that turned out. Not to mention the fact that he was lauded for being a 'winner' after shooting 39% in the '10 Finals including 6/24 in Game 7.

[Alex's foreskin]

:lol Bunch of morons in here. More comparable would be the 05-07 Kirby Lakers and we all saw how that turned out. Not to mention the fact that he was lauded for being a 'winner' after shooting 39% in the '10 Finals including 6/24 in Game 7.

Winning matters. Not stats. Stats are for losers like LeBron.

[Malik Hairston]

Naw dawg stop with that revisionist history...when Kobe played with pure fucking trash like Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, and all them other fucking scrubs...they said the same gotdam SHIT...

Maybe some idiots did, but I never did, it was a stupid argument at the time..

I didn't even criticise him this season when people were saying he should stop shooting, too:lol..if your teammates suck, you may have to shoot 30 times..

[Koolaid_Man]

Naw dawg stop with that revisionist history...when Kobe played with pure fucking trash like Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, and all them other fucking scrubs...they said the same gotdam SHIT...

[313]

:lol Kobe got criticized for shooting too much on teams that had the best frontcourt in the league and a massive size advantage against virtually every opponent they player against..I don't know why people don't seem to understand that, tbh..

Whether he had someone to pass it to or not, he missed 20 shots per game. It wasn't that great of a performance. Just a great player with a high usage rate.

[Koolaid_Man]

Maybe some idiots did, but I never did, it was a stupid argument at the time..

I didn't even criticise him this season when people were saying he should stop shooting, too:lol..if your teammates suck, you may have to shoot 30 times..
Its all about what ESPN said..not what you said...

Those faggots crucified Kobe for not making his garbage teammates better...Kwame even told Kobe not to pass him the fucking ball because he was scared...but the media still didnt give Kobe a break...i dont want to hear shit...fuck Lebronze

[FkLA]

Winning matters. Not stats. Stats are for losers like LeBron.

So let me get this straight...

The '10 Lakers+'11 Mavs won with Kirby+Dirk shooting ~40% because those two guys are winners not because they had a solid supporting cast around them. The '15 Cavs lost with LeGOAT shooting ~40% because he is a loser not because his supporting cast was injured and thus sucked. Is that what you're saying, moron?

[ffadicted]

Naw dawg stop with that revisionist history...when Kobe played with pure fucking trash like Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, and all them other fucking scrubs...they said the same gotdam SHIT...

Yup lol

[Alex's foreskin]

So let me get this straight...

The '10 Lakers+'11 Mavs won with Kirby+Dirk shooting ~40% because those two guys are winners not because they had a solid supporting cast around them. The '15 Cavs lost because LeGOAT is a loser not because his supporting cast was injured and thus sucked. Is that what you're saying, moron?

All that matters is wins. No matter how you get them. LeBron has failed with a loaded Miami squad in 2011. Don't say he didn't have help then.

[davethedope]

Love and Kyrie would have only made it maybe a tad bit closer....them two niggas soft as fresh baked cookies....they play NO defense....there would have been none of them offensive rebounds....and no tough defense on Curry....GS played down to the level of competition...they would have still mopped the floor with the Cavs

:lmao I can agree with that

[Clipper Nation]

Kirbystans were laughing at LeBron's shooting percentage when he dragged those D-League scrubs to two more Finals wins than they ever had any business getting... now, conveniently, it's "stats don't matter, only winning matters."

[FkLA]

All that matters is wins. No matter how you get them. LeBron has failed with a loaded Miami squad in 2011. Don't say he didn't have help then.

He choked in '11, no way to spin that. That has nothing to do with '15 or any of his other Finals losses. You have to be a special kind of moron to not have the ability to analyze supporting casts.

[Alex's foreskin]

Kirbystans were laughing at LeBron's shooting percentage when he dragged those D-League scrubs to two more Finals wins than they ever had any business getting... now, conveniently, it's "stats don't matter, only winning matters."

STFU lil stank stank. LeBron chose this team, and knew wt he was getting himself.into. He failed. Again.

[Alex's foreskin]

He choked in '11, no way to spin that. That has nothing to do with '15 or any of his other Finals losses. You have to be a special kind of moron to not have the ability to analyze supporting casts.

He chose this team. Fuck sympathy.

[Clipper Nation]

STFU lil stank stank. LeBron chose this team, and knew wt he was getting himself.into. He failed. Again.

And Kirby chose to run Shaq and Phil off, yet you all still cry about how :cry he had to play with Smush and Luke Walton :cry when he failed as the #1 option. Either stats and supporting casts don't matter for everybody or they do matter.

[Koolaid_Man]

Fuck Lebron he's now 33% in the finals......Kobe 71% and MJ 100%

[FkLA]

He chose this team. Fuck sympathy.

And if the team he chose stays healthy he probably rings. But keep thinking the Cavs lost bc he's a 'loser' and not because his supporting cast sucked.

[TampaDude]

Fuck Lebron he's now 33% in the finals......Kobe 71% and MJ 100%

Duncan 83%

Duncan > Kobe

AGAIN!

[Alex's foreskin]

And Kirby chose to run Shaq and Phil off, yet you all still cry about how :cry he had to play with Smush and Luke Walton :cry when he failed as the #1 option. Either stats and supporting casts don't matter for everybody or they do matter.
Kobe never failed with 2 prime Hall of Famers on the same team.

[BatManu20]

Klay Thompson just threw shade at Lebron at the podium. :lol With a big smirk, Klay said "I'm just glad to be on the best team in the world with the best player in the world in Steph." Klay and Steph start laughing.

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe never failed with 2 prime Hall of Famers on the same team.

He failed with Shaq, Malone (who was still playing well in 2004) and Payton on the same team. He also failed with MVPau, Dwight and Nash on the same team.

[D-Wade]

Incredible. Feel bad for Bron. :bobo Hope Wade doesn't end up in Cleveland next year though

[Alex's foreskin]

And if the team he chose stays healthy he probably rings. But keep thinking the Cavs lost bc he's a 'loser' and not because his supporting cast sucked.

What does that have to do with him shooting poorly? His teammates sucking so bad made that happen? :lmao

[FkLA]

Kobe never failed with 2 prime Hall of Famers on the same team.

Wade got shut down by Green and Bosh played like a bitch because LeBron's a 'loser'. Oh yeah!!

[Alex's foreskin]

He failed with Shaq, Malone (who was still playing well in 2004) and Payton on the same team. He also failed with MVPau, Dwight and Nash on the same team.

He won with Shaq and Pau. LeChoke failed while Wade carried him in 11.

[Koolaid_Man]

Klay Thompson just threw shade at Lebron at the podium. :lol With a big smirk, Klay said "I'm just glad to be on the best team in the world with the best player in the world in Steph." Klay and Steph start laughing.


Lebron is the one blabbing about being the best player in the world..and they sent his ass home

[Alex's foreskin]

Lebron is the one blabbing about being the best player in the world..and they sent his ass home

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

He won with Shaq and Pau. LeChoke failed while Wade carried him in 11.

Shaq and Pau won in spite of him. LeBron dragged Washed-Up Wade to two rings. Keep deflecting and moving goalposts, though, dumbass, your takes are about as shitty and vanilla as it gets.

[FkLA]

What does that have to do with him shooting poorly? His teammates sucking so bad made that happen? :lmao

Are you really this stupid? JR and Shumpert shot under 30% for the series. Delly and Jones couldn't hit shit either. Take shooters away from any star and they'll be swarmed too. But keep thinking basketball is a 1-on-1 game, moron.

[Koolaid_Man]

Shaq and Pau won in spite of him. LeBron dragged Washed-Up Wade to two rings. Keep deflecting and moving goalposts, though, dumbass, your takes are about as shitty and vanilla as it gets.

Win a ring bitch or go to the pawn shop and see if you csn rent Antoine Walkers

[Bynumite]

Shaq and Pau won in spite of him. LeBron dragged Washed-Up Wade to two rings. Keep deflecting and moving goalposts, though, dumbass, your takes are about as shitty and vanilla as it gets.

Lebeta went to play for Wade's team, not the other way around. If Lebeta can ring while "dragging a washed-up Wade", why does he keep failing to do it in Cleveland without him, gook?

[Alex's foreskin]

Are you really this stupid? JR and Shumpert shot under 30% for the series. Delly and Jones couldn't hit shit either. Take shooters away from any star and they'll be swarmed too. But keep thinking basketball is a 1-on-1 game, moron.

:lmao swarmed. LeBron had plenty of one on one matchups and refused to drive to the basket. :lmao excuses

[FkLA]

:lmao swarmed. LeBron had plenty of one on one matchups and refused to drive to the basket. :lmao excuses

smh keep watching bball, maybe one day your takes will improve

[Koolaid_Man]

The other thing is Lebron lost all his confidence down the stretch and he didnt want to shoot it....no way would MJ or Kobe lose their confidence....they may struggle with their shot which both of them have but they keep shooting that bitch....this nigga just quit

[Alex's foreskin]

The other thing is Lebron lost all his confidence down the stretch and he didnt want to shoot it....no way would MJ or Kobe lose their confidence....they may struggle with their shot which both of them have but they keep shooting that bitch....this nigga just quit

Yep

[Koolaid_Man]

Bird 3

Lebron 2

[Alex's foreskin]

Bird 3

Lebron 2

:lol

[Infinite_limit]

He needs 5 to match Birds 3 in the Golden Age

[hitmanyr2k]

:lmao swarmed. LeBron had plenty of one on one matchups and refused to drive to the basket. :lmao excuses

Yeah, Lebron got plenty of one on one matchups in this series. He wasn't swarmed by any means. I was surprised how much space the Warriors gave him to operate.

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[Alex's foreskin]

Yeah, Lebron got plenty of one on one matchups in this series. He wasn't swarmed by any means. I was surprised how much space the Warriors gave him to operate.

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Truth nuke

[dg7md]

:lmao Two years in a row that the player matched up with him wins FMVP

Because stopping or altering the effectiveness of LBJ is more or less an MVP-defining trait...

Warriors would have lost had Kerr not gotten Iguodala to contain LBJ in a way to limit his general floor effectiveness and was a very, very slick move.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I love how all the die hard advance metrics crowd are now relying on RAW numbers like total Points, Rebounds etc to help their argument...:lol

[Alex's foreskin]

I love how all the die hard advance metrics crowd are now relying on RAW numbers like total Points, Rebounds etc to help their argument...:lol

:lmao gotdayummmm

[StrengthAndHonor]

Are you really this stupid? JR and Shumpert shot under 30% for the series. Delly and Jones couldn't hit shit either. Take shooters away from any star and they'll be swarmed too. But keep thinking basketball is a 1-on-1 game, moron.
Yet you called it
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248717

:lol

[Mitch]

I love how all the die hard advance metrics crowd are now relying on RAW numbers like total Points, Rebounds etc to help their argument...:lol

Worst of the worst, the queen of metric stats is nowhere to be seen now that he can't fall back on Lebron.

[ducks]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/finals-defeats-too-much-bear-james-070010192--nba.html#

[spurraider21]

kobe in his prime missed the playoffs, while lebron in his prime hasn't missed an NBA finals :lol

[ducks]

kobe in his prime missed the playoffs, while lebron in his prime hasn't missed an NBA finals :lol

kobe west james east

[spurraider21]

I love how all the die hard advance metrics crowd are now relying on RAW numbers like total Points, Rebounds etc to help their argument...:lol
agreed. i haven't been as high on lebron's performance as some of his knobbers here. i do recognize the situation he was in given the talent disparity of the two rosters... but his numbers are just a result of volume, especially the point totals. it's retarded to hold these finals against lebron, but i also cant call it a performance for the ages as some here might

[TDMVPDPOY]

doesnt lebron have a winning record against the cripple kirby?

[Medvedenko]

Yeah, Lebron got plenty of one on one matchups in this series. He wasn't swarmed by any means. I was surprised how much space the Warriors gave him to operate.

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That's the shit right there. I noticed while watching the games that he barely got doubled. He needed to get his ass in the post rather than bringing the ball up and trying to bully ball his way into the paint or settle for jumpers when he's not a pure shooter. This is Lebron in a nutshell.

[FkLA]

Yeah, Lebron got plenty of one on one matchups in this series. He wasn't swarmed by any means. I was surprised how much space the Warriors gave him to operate.

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You don't need to be double teamed to be swarmed. The shooters shot terrible, when they aren't a threat his courtvision becomes obsolete and the help defenders can be that much more agressive.

[Malik Hairston]

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[AaronY]

39.8% FG against a team that stopped playing any shot blockers halfway thru the series too. truly amazing

[Malik Hairston]

40% FG on a 45% usage rate against the #1 D in the NBA with no system and Mozgov as your 2nd best player is pretty good, tbh..

[MultiTroll]

You don't need to be double teamed to be swarmed. The shooters shot terrible, when they aren't a threat his courtvision becomes obsolete and the help defenders can be that much more agressive.

[MultiTroll]

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and another cup for the Bron haters.

[hitmanyr2k]

You don't need to be double teamed to be swarmed. The shooters shot terrible, when they aren't a threat his courtvision becomes obsolete and the help defenders can be that much more agressive.

This is the kind of coverage Lebron was seeing all series and Kerr never went away from it. This isn't getting swarmed. This was Lebron having all kinds of space to do what he wanted and he threw up a lot of dumb shots. If anything the Warriors gave Lebron's teammates too much respect and stuck with them instead of swarming Lebron.


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[Chomag]

needing super friends team to at least get 2...

[MultiTroll]

According to sports scientists that gathered this week, Lebron's workload was inhumane in this series:lol..

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13071387/lebron-james-unfathomable-workload
I especially noticed this to begin the 2nd half.
The Cavs had just chopped a 15 point lead down to a tie.
Then they went ahead the 1st couple trips to start the 2nd half.

Then......LeBron i thought he was gonna take over.
Instead the Cavs ran some f'd up offense where Mozgov would go stand in the corner trey area and LeBron tossed it out to him. A couple times. One clank, one turnover after Mozgov lost the ball and the Golden Phaggots were up by 5 just like that.

Huge turning point, the turning point IMO.
Was LeBron just gassed?

[FkLA]

This is the kind of coverage Lebron was seeing all series and Kerr never went away from it. This isn't getting swarmed. This was Lebron having all kinds of space to do what he wanted and he threw up a lot of dumb shots. If anything the Warriors gave Lebron's teammates too much respect and stuck with them instead of swarming Lebron.

Nobody is saying he didn't take his fair share of bad shots. What player doesn't? Not to mention the fact that that's not even his strength or where he spent most of his time. He's at his best up top, attacking/reading the defense. When he penetrated the help defenders collapsed on him and it resulted in either a difficult shot for him or a kickout for one of his teammate's bricks.

[MultiTroll]

Nobody is saying he didn't take his fair share of bad shots. What player doesn't? Not to mention the fact that that's not even his strength or where he spent most of his time. He's at his best up top, attacking/reading the defense. When he penetrated the help defenders collapsed on him and it resulted in either a difficult shot for him or a kickout for one of his teammate's bricks.
Exactly.
Just because Golden State was not "doubling" LeBron, the help guys were able to cheat off big time.
For F's sake Delly would just hold the ball like a hot potatoe and then just dump it off and go stand around like a dumbf. Delly was zero offensive threat. Never mind his zero points, he presented zero threat.
Made it wayyy easier to defend LeBron. Who also got burned out of prolly at least 5 assists after he made excellent passes that Cav botched the layup or turned the ball over.

Blattovich sticking with Delly and JR DumbF while keeping Mike Miller chained to the bench. Ya that really helped LeBron too. :rolleyes

[TDfan2007]

Yeah, Lebron got plenty of one on one matchups in this series. He wasn't swarmed by any means. I was surprised how much space the Warriors gave him to operate.

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Boom.

LeBron is not a very good iso player and has a mediocre faceup J. Warriors took advantage and played him straight up almost the entire series. Props to Iggy and even Barnes for playing him so well.

LeBron is best off the pnr, where his court vision and exclusive ability are almost peerless. When you relegate him to isos you get an inefficient result.

[TDfan2007]

With that said, LeBron's backcourt was embarrassingly bad all series. One of the worst backcourt performances I've ever seen.

LeBron was in an impossible situation and made it competitive with his total game. People comparing him to Kobe might want to stop, because Kobe was never a nightly triple double threat.

If anything LeBron played like a smarter westbrook.