9 Killed in Black Church Shooting in South Carolina

[Blake]

I guarantee you when I was in my prime I could have killed 9 church goers with a ball pen hammer if I had been so inclined.

I guarantee you could kill 9 out of your prime with a semi automatic

[m>s]

If the cuck bans me what choice will i have? Babby cant handle the bants so he wants to silence me.

[Clipper Nation]

Serious question, if that guy had a semi automatic, how many more people could he have hypothetically killed?
How many lives could have been saved if civilians were allowed to have guns in China?

[spurraider21]

Umm, you know, actually run a background check? See if the buyer has malicious intentions? Talk to his/her friends and family? See if they're looking to do mass murder?

A dude who espouses wanting to create a "race war" should be denied. Would you want to live in a neighborhood with m>s (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27774) armed to the teeth? I know for sure I wouldn't.
talk to friends, check his facebook, etc... how long do you think that would/should take per person and how much $ would it take? that's the kind of background check that's run when you apply for a govt job, not to make a purchase. it's going to have to be some automated system, but maybe there needs to be more information other than crimes convicted... maybe any incident reports, reports of violent behavior from schools, etc... but you cant reasonably have a dragged out process like you are proposing

[ChumpDumper]

I guarantee you when I was in my prime I could have killed 9 church goers with a ball pen hammer if I had been so inclined.The Avante of mass murder, ladies and gentlemen.

[Blake]

How many lives could have been saved if civilians were allowed to have guns in China?

Maybe some maybe none. Maybe gun toter is a horrible shot and kills more. Maybe crowd is too thick.

My question is based on how many bullets someone can fire off with a semi

[m>s]

talk to friends, check his facebook, etc... how long do you think that would/should take per person and how much $ would it take? that's the kind of background check that's run when you apply for a govt job, not to make a purchase. it's going to have to be some automated system, but maybe there needs to be more information other than crimes convicted... maybe any incident reports, reports of violent behavior from schools, etc... but you cant reasonably have a dragged out process like you are proposing
So because a person ever got into some sort of altercation they can never own a firearm? You just repealed the 2nd amendment across the board.

[Blake]

The Avante of mass murder, ladies and gentlemen.

sjch3LAAGoQ

[Blake]

So because a person ever got into some sort of altercation they can never own a firearm? You just repealed the 2nd amendment across the board.

I'm good with that. Make a new one tbh

[m>s]

I'm good with that. Make a new one tbh
That's ridiculous, no one could ever own one. We've all gotten into fist fights growing up as kids. You're a hardcore real to life commie or at least you're acting just like one.

[Blake]

That's ridiculous, no one could ever own one. We've all gotten into fist fights growing up as kids. You're a hardcore real to life commie or at least you're acting just like one.

Neh, I'm fine with gun ownership, just not this ridiculously absurd "right to bear arms".

2nd amendment honks are some of the dumbest people I know. Barely above Bible beater on the IQ scale.

[Clipper Nation]

Neh, I'm fine with gun ownership, just not this ridiculously absurd "right to bear arms".

2nd amendment honks are some of the dumbest people I know. Barely above Bible beater on the IQ scale.
So you're fine with gun ownership except for the part where people actually own guns. Basically you're the Karl Marx of cucks.

[Blake]

So you're fine with gun ownership except for the part where people actually own guns. Basically you're the Karl Marx of cucks.

basically you're trying hard to be clever and instead it's gibberish

[spurraider21]

So because a person ever got into some sort of altercation they can never own a firearm? You just repealed the 2nd amendment across the board.
i never said that, i was just giving examples. maybe it would be a contributing factor... what if you've had multiple incidents. it could be a factor, not an end-all-be-all

but maybe its a good idea to not sell deadly weapons to people who are prone to violent behavior?

[hitmanyr2k]

Maybe some maybe none. Maybe gun toter is a horrible shot and kills more. Maybe crowd is too thick.

My question is based on how many bullets someone can fire off with a semi

This reminds me of some jackass on the news saying if the moviegoers were armed in the theater James Holmes' shooting spree could have been stopped. Because random citizens with guns trying to shoot someone in a dark theater isn't a recipe for disaster:lol

[Blake]

This reminds me of some jackass on the news saying if the moviegoers were armed in the theater James Holmes' shooting spree could have been stopped. Because random citizens with guns trying to shoot someone in a dark theater isn't a recipe for disaster:lol

Ah you missed the dude on this board that said he would have taken him out. mingus I think.

He also alluded to making around 40k a month but that's neither here nor there

[Blake]

And since typically sit in the front, I would have had a damn good chance of blowing his brains out.

Lol

[Blake]

Thanks. And that is pretty much what I was getting at.

I think had there been several people in the audience will-trained in firearms and aware of their surrroundings, it isn't a leap of faith at all to assume the guy would have gone down in ten seconds or less.

So good

[Spurminator]

"aware of their surroundings"

What a sad existence to always be on high alert for serial killers.

[m>s]

i never said that, i was just giving examples. maybe it would be a contributing factor... what if you've had multiple incidents. it could be a factor, not an end-all-be-all

but maybe its a good idea to not sell deadly weapons to people who are prone to violent behavior?
So then it's subjective and up to the interpretation of whom? Will they also be looking at your voting record and party affiliation when making the decision on whether or not you get to have the right to bear arms? You see where this is headed right.

[spurraider21]

So then it's subjective and up to the interpretation of whom? Will they also be looking at your voting record and party affiliation when making the decision on whether or not you get to have the right to bear arms? You see where this is headed right.
no, where is it headed?

i was told that gay marriage was also headed to beastiality

[mingus]

Ah you missed the dude on this board that said he would have taken him out. mingus (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15177) I think.

He also alluded to making around 40k a month but that's neither here nor there

Well maybe as a society should change the way we do things. If we can't trust trained gun users in the near dark, then have the lights on in the theaters. It'd suck not being able to get a HJ or BJ at the movies but it's something I'd be willing to make a compromise on, assuming movie theaters lower the price on concessions.

In the case of what happened in Charleston, have someone in church that's carrying a concealed weapon. Arm pastors and/or priests.

[ChumpDumper]

Well maybe as a society should change the way we do things. If we can't trust trained gun users in the near dark, then have the lights on in the theaters. It'd suck not being able to get a HJ or BJ at the movies but it's something I'd be willing to make a compromise on, assuming movie theaters lower the price on concessions.

In the case of what happened in Charleston, have someone in church that's carrying a concealed weapon. Arm pastors and/or priests.Live in constant fear.

No thanks.

[m>s]

no, where is it headed?

i was told that gay marriage was also headed to beastiality
The point is it's s right and not something up for interpretation. That's why we have clearly defined codes and laws, x is legal y is illegal, x offense carries a punishment of y etc. it's called the constitution and rule of law and it's set us apart from other countries for quite some time now.

[m>s]

Live in constant fear.

No thanks.
Shut up you shitposting freak you're the one shilling away feverishly in fear of the right rising.

[m>s]

As again I just want to make something clear, you fuckers are not taking awayy rights that my ancestors fought and died for, I will wage all out warfare against you and your ilk before I ever relinquish my natural rights as a sovereign human being. You better have some big fucking balls and a lot of grit.

[ChumpDumper]

Shut up you shitposting freak you're the one shilling away feverishly in fear of the right rising.I don't fear people like you "rising."

People like you don't do shit.

[ChumpDumper]

As again I just want to make something clear, you fuckers are not taking awayy rights that my ancestors fought and died for, I will wage all out warfare against you and your ilk before I ever relinquish my natural rights as a sovereign human being. You better have some big fucking balls and a lot of grit.You won't do shit.

[m>s]

Come and try to take my guns and see what I do. Come try to take my property and my rights you dirty fucking communist kike.

[ChumpDumper]

Come and try to take my guns and see what I do. Come try to take my property and my rights you dirty fucking communist kike.When have I threatened to do any of this?

When has anyone here done this?

lol you're scared of everything

[m>s]

Thats what plenty of you psychopaths are hoping for and wishing to accomplish. That'll be the day.

[ChumpDumper]

Thats what plenty of you psychopaths are hoping for and wishing to accomplish. That'll be the day.So no one here has threatened you in any way -- yet, you are still terrified of us.

lol

Cling to det gun that no one gives a shit you own.

[spurraider21]

The point is it's s right and not something up for interpretation. That's why we have clearly defined codes and laws, x is legal y is illegal, x offense carries a punishment of y etc. it's called the constitution and rule of law and it's set us apart from other countries for quite some time now.
ok... they could easily set up objective standards with something along the lines of what i mentioned

[Splits]

As again I just want to make something clear, you fuckers are not taking awayy rights that my ancestors fought and died for, I will wage all out warfare against you and your ilk before I ever relinquish my natural rights as a sovereign human being. You better have some big fucking balls and a lot of grit.

And on July 3 your personal data will be available to the authorities. You're the next mass murderer, and I will do everything in my power to stop you, you stupid fuck.

[Splits]

American hero

You're going down for this, you fucking faggot.

[m>s]

And on July 3 your personal data will be available to the authorities. You're the next mass murderer, and I will do everything in my power to stop you, you stupid fuck.
Yeah no I'm not idiot

[Splits]

Yeah no I'm not idiot

So you're against 9 blacks being gunned down in a mass slaughter?

[m>s]

Yes idiot, I've already said that he accomplished nothing. He's almost as big of an idiot as you are.

[m>s]

And when i get a moment I will prove to you guys that the whole shooting was a hoax

[Th'Pusher]

And when i get a moment I will prove to you guys that the whole shooting was a hoax
I heard your alma matter was considering taking down the statues of the confederate soldiers who fought (and lost) for slavery.

Does that upset you?

[Blake]

no, where is it headed?

i was told that gay marriage was also headed to beastiality

Lol

[m>s]

I have no idea what you're talking about the'pussy and I don't think you do either. I've read about schools taking stuff down, companies not selling this or that product etc but it's pretty much an expected PC move to try to look good and avoid bad publicity

[Blake]

The point is it's s right and not something up for interpretation......it's called the constitution and rule of law and it's set us apart from other countries for quite some time now.

Lol do you understand what the supreme court does

[m>s]

Lol do you understand what the supreme court does
Yes and they've already ruled on this. Guess who was right? Pro tip it wasn't you.

[Blake]

Yes and they've already ruled on this. Guess who was right? Pro tip it wasn't you.

Just don't say it's not up for interpretation

[m>s]

It's really not because there's no way they could reverse it without starting a civil war, just being realistic

[m>s]

Maybe if you guys imported another 50 million illegals, brainwashed them, and told them that whitey wanted to shoot them and take away their gibsmedats it could pass in 50 years

[Splits]

It's really not because there's no way they could reverse it without starting a civil war, just being realistic


So you want a civil war?

[m>s]

Shut up stupid

in all seriousness take end of that money you brag about and buy you a plot of land. Out in the country somewhere. Just a gut feeling but things could get really ugly.

[admiralsnackbar]

:lol There aren't enough racist twits out there -- however well-armed they may be -- for things to get "really ugly." Most people are happy to have a job to go to to provide for themselves and their families. Race war kinda puts a damper on all that.

[DMX7]

it's called the constitution and rule of law and it's set us apart from other countries for quite some time now.

lol, you make it sound like rule of law it unique to us.

[m>s]

lol, you make it sound like rule of law it unique to us.
Our particular form of rule of law is unique, we enjoy many things that other people around the world do not and its sad that people are losing sight of that and taking it for granted

[boutons_deux]

lol, you make it sound like rule of law it unique to us.

and that the "rule of law" is applied evenly, justly, fairly across all races and levels of wealth.

[Blake]

It's really not because there's no way they could reverse it without starting a civil war, just being realistic

Rofl civil war

Muh guns muh guns

[m>s]

You can't honestly think for one moment that the idea of gun control isn't irresponsible and 200 million people are just going to turn them all in right

[Blake]

Gun control doesn't equal gun ban dumbass.

[admiralsnackbar]

You can't honestly think for one moment that the idea of gun control isn't irresponsible and 200 million people are just going to turn them all in right You can't honestly equate sensible back-ground checks and restrictions on gun show sales with outright gun prohibition.

[m>s]

Gun control doesn't equal gun ban dumbass.
That's exactly what the big gun control advocates like Diane Feinstein have said. In her own words "if I could get the votes I would confiscate all the guns America turn em all in"

[m>s]

You can't honestly equate sensible back-ground checks and restrictions on gun show sales with outright gun prohibition.
We already have background checks, I wouldn't really be opposed to closing the gun show loophole but you do realize that it wouldn't have stopped any of the shootings in recent years right? They place restrictions, then more shootings happen, then what? More restrictions?

[admiralsnackbar]

That's exactly what the big gun control advocates like Diane Feinstein have said. In her own words "if I could get the votes I would confiscate all the guns America turn em all in" "If I could get the votes"

[admiralsnackbar]

We already have background checks, I wouldn't really be opposed to closing the gun show loophole but you do realize that it wouldn't have stopped any of the shootings in recent years right? They place restrictions, then more shootings happen, then what? More restrictions? Dude, it's harder to get a driver's license than to get a gun. Educating people on how to responsibly use firearms wouldn't hurt anybody, and I say that as a proud owner of several guns.

[m>s]

Mass shooters already know how to use them and training them wouldn't have saved lives

[admiralsnackbar]

Mass shooters already know how to use them and training them wouldn't have saved lives Agreed, but your focus is too centered on S. Carolina. Are you saying educating people about firearm use wouldn't save lives? As far as preventing mass murders... I don't get the sense that anyone actually thinks they can regulate them away. It's more of a mental health/profiling issue than a gun restriction issue.

[Blake]

Mass shooters already know how to use them and training them wouldn't have saved lives

So you're saying restrictions don't work.

[m>s]

Not the ones I've seen proposed by the left. Our politicians are incredibly stupid people.

[admiralsnackbar]

Not the ones I've seen proposed by the left. Our politicians are incredibly stupid people. So are our polity.

[m>s]

Yeah I'm not a republican they're just as dumb but right now they're not my focus

[Blake]

Not the ones I've seen proposed by the left. Our politicians are incredibly stupid people.

I mean any of them. Current or otherwise. Why have any restrictions at all if killers are gonna do what they do

[m>s]

Now you're just being stupid. Laws have to make sense. These proposals don't.

[Blake]

Now you're just being stupid. Laws have to make sense. These proposals don't.

can you think of a current or proposed law that would have stopped this guy?

[admiralsnackbar]

Now you're just being stupid. Laws have to make sense. These proposals don't. Are you referring to full-on gun bans? Because they not only make no sense; they also have zero chance of passing. Blake's point stands, though... an absolutist stance against any sort of legislation or control makes as much sense as a full ban. There has to be a middle ground.

[boutons_deux]

Lindsey Graham Figures Charleston Shooter Must Be Some Kind Of Ay-Rab, Somehow

I don’t know how you can sit with somebody for an hour in a church and pray with them and get up and shoot them.

That’s Mideast hate.

That’s something I didn’t think we had here but apparently we do.

I just can’t imagine what it takes of an individual to be welcomed into a church — and here’s what happened: He went to Charleston with a plan.

The people in the church had no idea who he was or what he had in mind, and he came into the church and was sitting in the pews by himself, and they invited him up for the Bible study, and spent an hour with him.

And he said, “They were so nice, I could’ve almost backed out.”

That says a lot about them.

Says a lot about him.

Read more at http://wonkette.com/589395/lindsey-graham-figures-charleston-shooter-must-be-some-kind-of-ay-rab-somehow#KtSpuPOFMM1YL9gO.99

[boutons_deux]

Took Longer Than I Expected: Bill O'Reilly Yanks Video Games Into Charleston Massacre For No Reason At All

"Look at video games," King said during the segment. "Our children play video games and 7 out of 10 of them are violent. Some of our movies are very violent, and we want to see more and more violence."

O’Reilly agreed with King, noting that there needs to be more pushback, more people need to argue that it’s "not a good thing to devote your leisure time to violent pursuits."

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150623/10373531435/took-longer-than-i-expected-bill-oreilly-yanks-video-games-into-charleston-massacre-no-reason-all.shtml

[Clipper Nation]

Took Longer Than I Expected: Bill O'Reilly Yanks Video Games Into Charleston Massacre For No Reason At All

"Look at video games," King said during the segment. "Our children play video games and 7 out of 10 of them are violent. Some of our movies are very violent, and we want to see more and more violence."

O’Reilly agreed with King, noting that there needs to be more pushback, more people need to argue that it’s "not a good thing to devote your leisure time to violent pursuits."

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150623/10373531435/took-longer-than-i-expected-bill-oreilly-yanks-video-games-into-charleston-massacre-no-reason-all.shtml



Too bad CNN already referred to it as a "Mortal Kombat shooting," whatever that means, before O'Reilly started blaming video games. Libtards fail again :lol

[DMX7]

Too bad CNN already referred to it as a "Mortal Kombat shooting," whatever that means, before O'Reilly started blaming video games. Libtards fail again :lol

Interesting title given there are no guns in Mortal Kombat. :lol

[Jacob1983]

How did a flag from the 19th century pull the trigger? I swear Americans are softass wimps. This evil turd shot up a church and people want to blame a flag for it? Are you kidding me? This piece of shit was the one that pulled the trigger. I think Stossel had the best take on it. He said the flag shouldn't be flown at government buildings but you have the right to be a racist in the privacy of your own home. Saw a video on BBC of some some black bitch demanding her neighbor take down the Confederate flag. Get over yourself. I swear black people in America want everything handed to them on a silver platter. And another if all of these southern monuments have to be taken down because boo hoo it offends some wimpy soft ass people then take down all of the Washington and Jefferson monuments. Those fuckers owned slaves too. Equal treatment and equal punishment.

[CitizenDwayne]

Interesting title given there are no guns in Mortal Kombat. :lol

Stryker used guns, tbh...

[boutons_deux]

"This evil turd shot up a church and people want to blame a flag for it"

I swear you rightwingnuts have shit for brains.

[Trill Clinton]

"This evil turd shot up a church and people want to blame a flag for it"

I swear you rightwingnuts have shit for brains.




lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

I think Stossel had the best take on it. He said the flag shouldn't be flown at government buildings but you have the right to be a racist in the privacy of your own home.

That's my position on the matter. Although, I would encourage private citizens not to be racists anywhere.

[boutons_deux]

"flag shouldn't be flown at government buildings but you have the right to be a racist in the privacy of your own home."

brilliant, absolutely brilliant. DUH!

[Blake]

He said the flag shouldn't be flown at government buildings but you have the right to be a racist in the privacy of your own home.

"...the _____ shouldn't be ________ at government buildings but you have the right to be a ________ in your own home"

plenty of things to put there on top of racist

[boutons_deux]

3 Black Churches burnt in North Carolina, Georgia and S.Carolina in the past 5 days. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396786/-3-Black-Churches-burnt-in-North-Carolina-Georgia-and-Florida-in-the-past-5-days)


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396786/-3-Black-Churches-burnt-in-North-Carolina-Georgia-and-Florida-in-the-past-5-days

[TheSanityAnnex]

3 Black Churches burnt in North Carolina, Georgia and S.Carolina in the past 5 days. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396786/-3-Black-Churches-burnt-in-North-Carolina-Georgia-and-Florida-in-the-past-5-days)


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396786/-3-Black-Churches-burnt-in-North-Carolina-Georgia-and-Florida-in-the-past-5-days


:lmao those racist tree limbs falling on power lines and starting a racist electrical fire :lmao
:lmao dailykos :lmao

[Jacob1983]

As long as you aren't raping or killing, you have the right to be a racist inside your home. Are you going to go inside every human's house and tell them to be racist? If so, good luck with that. Back to the evil turd, he did this because he's evil not because he touched the Confederate battle flag. Americans are wimps.

[Oh, Gee!!]

:lmao those racist tree limbs falling on power lines and starting a racist electrical fire :lmao
:lmao dailykos :lmao

The FL fire ruled accidental. The other two ruled arson, according to DailyKos.

[Winehole23]

burned down churches. what's so hilarious?

[Clipper Nation]

The FL fire ruled accidental. The other two ruled arson, according to DailyKos.
Clearly we need match control, tree limb control and electrical line control.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Clearly we need match control, tree limb control and electrical line control.

Match control is good. Esp. for the childrens.

[unleashbaynes]

We'll see how funny it is to you when it's one of your family members killed. We'll see how you feel about how easy it is for crazy fucktards to get guns then.

[TheSanityAnnex]

We'll see how funny it is to you when it's one of your family members killed. We'll see how you feel about how easy it is for crazy fucktards to get guns then.
I don't see a single person thinking those killed in Charelton was funny. Who are you talking to?

[TheSanityAnnex]

The FL fire ruled accidental. The other two ruled arson, according to DailyKos.
And only 1 being looked at as a hate crime, nice try though Dailykos

[Winehole23]

TSA writes off a church burning a thousand miles away because, internetz.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA writes off a church burning a thousand miles away because, internetz.
I wrote off the other two as they weren't hate crimes as the headline wants you to believe.

[Trill Clinton]

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you referring to full-on gun bans? Because they not only make no sense; they also have zero chance of passing. Blake's point stands, though... an absolutist stance against any sort of legislation or control makes as much sense as a full ban. There has to be a middle ground.

The legislation proposed a few years ago would have closed the loopholes for individual sellers and gun shows, established a national gun violence database, and increased mental health spending. More recently they tried to allow CDC and NIH funding.

You keep talking about a middle ground using their fantasy land as a starting point.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

614861266960707584

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Wonder if that is a serial arsonist or multiple people.

[Oh, Gee!!]

And only 1 being looked at as a hate crime, nice try though Dailykos

One is too many for my liking

[Jacob1983]

I'm just tired of the race baiting. What ever happened to evil people just being evil? And isn't it odd how America views and treats serial killers compared to mass shootetrs?

[boutons_deux]

I'm just tired of the race baiting. What ever happened to evil people just being evil?

white supremacism, racism, "Christian" hate ARE evil.

[Jacob1983]

So you agree that anyone can be evil?

[boutons_deux]

So you agree that anyone can be evil?

duh. Is that your point? Is that a point at all? is That All You Got?

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'm just tired of the race baiting. What ever happened to evil people just being evil?

That's fair, but motives are important too.

[boutons_deux]

Paranoia on #SouthernLivesMatter :lol

We are ‘being exterminated’: Twitter neo-Confederates express panic with #SouthernLivesMatter

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/we-are-being-exterminated-twitter-neo-confederates-express-panic-with-southernlivesmatter/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Let us know when a Black Panther breaks into a KKK/white supremacy meeting and AK47's them all to death.

[boutons_deux]

Fox News’ latest spin: Dylann Roof is “product of the left wing”
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/29/fox_news_latest_spin_dylann_roof_is_product_of_the _left_wing/

[Aztecfan03]

Agreed, but your focus is too centered on S. Carolina. Are you saying educating people about firearm use wouldn't save lives? As far as preventing mass murders... I don't get the sense that anyone actually thinks they can regulate them away. It's more of a mental health/profiling issue than a gun restriction issue.

Not according to most liberals.

[Aztecfan03]

.

[Aztecfan03]

614861266960707584

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some places reported 6 black churches, but the 3rd church(not on this list, but timeline-wise) was 98% white.

[ChumpDumper]

some places reported 6 black churches, but the 3rd church(not on this list, but timeline-wise) was 98% white.Hooray?

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trainwreck2100]

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:lol dat irony

[spurraider21]

what irony?

[Th'Pusher]

Someone doesn't know what irony means.

[Trainwreck2100]

Someone doesn't know what irony means.

Anyone who doesn't see the irony.

[Aztecfan03]

Anyone who doesn't see the irony.

explain the irony then.

[Oh, Gee!!]

explain the irony then.

he feels vindicated bc black people burned down businesses in recent riots over police brutality. "They did it first!"

[SnakeBoy]

616066676052770816

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:lol dat irony


Official: Fire at South Carolina black church wasn't arson
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/another-black-church-in-south-carolina-burns-cause-unknown/ar-AAcoC28?ocid=ansnewsap11

[SnakeBoy]

he feels vindicated bc black people burned down businesses in recent riots over police brutality. "They did it first!"

There's no irony in that.

[spurraider21]

Official: Fire at South Carolina black church wasn't arson
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/another-black-church-in-south-carolina-burns-cause-unknown/ar-AAcoC28?ocid=ansnewsap11
america is SO racist that i'm sure whatever natural cause that is responsible just hates black people

[SnakeBoy]

america is SO racist that i'm sure whatever natural cause that is responsible just hates black people

A line of thunder storms with heavy lighting moved through around the time the church burned.

Now dat would be ironic.

[spurraider21]

white americans, knowing that climate change would cause storms that could light a black church on fire, purposely polluted the air so this church can go down in flames

[Blake]

A line of thunder storms with heavy lighting moved through around the time the church burned.

Now dat would be ironic.

It's like raaaaain on your wedding day.

[Trainwreck2100]

he feels vindicated bc black people burned down businesses in recent riots over police brutality. "They did it first!"
Nope thats not irony

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

https://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/mug-background12.jpg?w=1364&h=764

Black Suspect Arrested After Racist Message Discovered Outside Predominately Black Church

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS4)– A Colorado Springs man was arrested after police believe he left racist messages outside a church.

Vincent Broughton, 44, who is black, is facing charges for committed a bias-motivated crime and disorderly conduct.

The signs were posted outside the New Covenant church that is predominately attended by African Americans. One sign references the KKK. Another reads, “Black men beware, you are the target.”

Police said Broughton admitted to posting the flyers but did not explain why he targeted the church.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/suspect-arrested-after-racist-message-discovered-outside-church/

The best hate crime hoaxers have taught the nigs well but they didn't get away with it this time

http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Cartoon-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doing-Grafitti-260.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Latest blow to black AME churches in SC: Letters threaten to kill women pastors and their childrenhttp://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/latest-blow-to-black-ame-churches-in-sc-letters-threaten-to-kill-women-pastors-and-their-children/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

dickless chickenshit racists, no balls to face their hated n!gg@s

[Oh, Gee!!]

Nope thats not irony

Ok. What's the irony in a church burning? Cause, I must confess that I didn't see the irony.

Is it the cross on the building's facade that appears to be in flames?

[Trainwreck2100]

Ok. What's the irony in a church burning? Cause, I must confess that I didn't see the irony.

Is it the cross on the building's facade that appears to be in flames?

Nope. You won't see it if you make it about race.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Nope. You won't see it if you make it about race.

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fiyah!!! Is that it?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Latest blow to black AME churches in SC: Letters threaten to kill women pastors and their children

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/latest-blow-to-black-ame-churches-in-sc-letters-threaten-to-kill-women-pastors-and-their-children/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

dickless chickenshit racists, no balls to face their hated n!gg@s





Vincent Broughton did it.

[Blake]

Nope. You won't see it if you make it about race.

Nobody but you is seeing it any way.

[Trainwreck2100]

Nobody but you is seeing it any way.

And thats a shame

[Blake]

And thats a shame

hmm, no.

[Trainwreck2100]

hmm, no.

Its fairly obvious, the lack of understanding is a bit disconcerting.

[Blake]

Neh, not really.

And if was really that disconcerting, you'd explain clearly instead of using condescending vagueness.

[admiralsnackbar]

Not according to most liberals. If the last 50 years of US legislation are any guide (probably longer, but I'll limit myself to what I'm certain of), mainstream liberals haven't been cooking up any kind of ban on firearms. Banning assault rifles, high-capacity mags, and AP bullets has been a pet project for a minority of liberal lawmakers from the most liberal of states (CA, MA), but they can never get the numbers to pass these bills -- even when Dems have majorities in both houses, even after the Auroras and Sandy Hooks and etc. In fact, judging by representation in the legislative/executive/judicial branches of our government, the wing-nut left-wing fringe is markedly smaller, less active, or less effective than the right. All to say: I think my point stands.

[Trainwreck2100]

Neh, not really.

And if was really that disconcerting, you'd explain clearly instead of using condescending vagueness.

The.vagueness isnt condesending I'm not giving you the answer its there.find it or dont. just know its not race based

[Blake]

The Tragic Disconcernment.

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/politics/dylann-roof-fbi-gun-south-carolina/index.html


Background check system failed due to incompetence.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/politics/dylann-roof-fbi-gun-south-carolina/index.html


Background check system failed due to incompetence.Also because it's a bad system.

[boutons_deux]

Also because it's a bad system.


... because NRA/GOA/BigGun have paid politicians to gut, underfund, screw up, weaken gun regulations and enforcement.

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, if there's a holdup, just give the guy the gun. I'm sure it will all work out.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Also because it's a bad system.
The system is fine, the enforcement of it is not. Do you truly believe adding more laws will help when the existing ones aren't even enforced?

[ChumpDumper]

The system is fine, the enforcement of it is not. Do you truly believe adding more laws will help when the existing ones aren't even enforced?The system is not fine when it errs on the side of just giving guns to people who shouldn't have them.

[TheSanityAnnex]

... because NRA/GOA/BigGun have paid politicians to gut, underfund, screw up, weaken gun regulations and enforcement.

Please explain in your own words how NRA/GOA/BigGun were responsible for the NICS failing to identify Dylan Roof as illegal to buy a gun.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The system is not fine when it errs on the side of just giving guns to people who shouldn't have them.
There is nothing wrong with the system. 3 days is plenty of time to properly run a NICS. The FBI fucked this one up royally.

"Comey said the FBI made the error due to a breakdown in the background check system and confusion with paperwork between the FBI, local police departments and county jurisdictions

Due to Roof's admission during an arrest in late February that he was in possession of drugs, he should not have been permitted to buy the gun he used in the massacre. However, an agent working for the FBI's background check system who was performing the review on Roof failed to contact the Columbia, South Carolina, police department which arrested Roof, in part because of a clerical error in records listing the wrong agency.
Because Roof's background check took longer than three days to complete, the gun shop owner was allowed to sell the gun to Roof. The law permits gun sellers to sell guns if a background check takes longer than three days to complete"

[ChumpDumper]

There is nothing wrong with the system. 3 days is plenty of time to properly run a NICS. The FBI fucked this one up royally.

"Comey said the FBI made the error due to a breakdown in the background check system and confusion with paperwork between the FBI, local police departments and county jurisdictions

Due to Roof's admission during an arrest in late February that he was in possession of drugs, he should not have been permitted to buy the gun he used in the massacre. However, an agent working for the FBI's background check system who was performing the review on Roof failed to contact the Columbia, South Carolina, police department which arrested Roof, in part because of a clerical error in records listing the wrong agency.
Because Roof's background check took longer than three days to complete, the gun shop owner was allowed to sell the gun to Roof. The law permits gun sellers to sell guns if a background check takes longer than three days to complete"The system is not fine when it errs on the side of just giving guns to people who shouldn't have them.

That is precisely what happened here.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The system is not fine when it errs on the side of just giving guns to people who shouldn't have them.

That is precisely what happened here.
The system didn't err on the side of anything. It is not the system's fault the FBI was incompetent.

[ChumpDumper]

The system didn't err on the side of anything.Of course it did.

When in doubt, give the nutburger the gun.

[m>s]

Can someone give me the short version of why he wasn't supposed to have a gun. Was he previously convicted of a felony?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Of course it did.

When in doubt, give the nutburger the gun.The gun giving falls squarely on the FBI, the system works when competent people do their job properly.

I wonder if the victim's families will be notifed and told an FBI fuck up was the reason Roof got a gun.

[ChumpDumper]

The gun giving falls squarely on the FBI, the system works when competent people do their job properly. And when there is doubt, just give the nutburger the gun.


I wonder if the victim's families will be notifed and told an FBI fuck up was the reason Roof got a gun.They would probably be in favor of changing the system to no err on just giving the nutburger the gun after an arbitrary amount of time tbh.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And when there is doubt, just give the nutburger the gun.

They would probably be in favor of changing the system to no err on just giving the nutburger the gun after an arbitrary amount of time tbh.
Arbitrary amount of time? lol
People like you crack me up....the laws on the books aren't followed, so.....more laws.

[ChumpDumper]

Arbitrary amount of time? lol
People like you crack me up....the laws on the books aren't followed, so.....more laws.How is three days not arbitrary?

After three days nutburger gets the gun no matter what.

That's stupid.

People like you crack me up. Law gives nutburger the gun no questions asked after three days, so the law is perfect.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Amusing watching you avoid discussing the failure of the FBI conducting a routine background check.

[ChumpDumper]

Amusing watching you avoid discussing the failure of the FBI conducting a routine background check.What is there to discuss?

Failures happen.

Nutburgers shouldn't be rewarded by default.

Why do you think nutburgers should be given guns by default?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Law

[boutons_deux]

The gun giving falls squarely on the FBI, the system works when competent people do their job properly

Who writes Gun Regulations that protect The Great American People by defaulting to "sell a gun to any fuck off" if the b/g check doesn't anwer in 72 hours?

I bet your adored NRA/GOA/BigGun had something, ie $$$, to do with that regulation.

[ChumpDumper]

LawYou think people who shouldn't get guns should get guns by default because "law"?

I knew it would be amusing.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ignoring incompetence and now picking and choosing which laws to follow

[ChumpDumper]

Ignoring incompetence and now picking and choosing which laws to followI recognized the incompetence.

You want murderers to get guns by default.

I disagree.

I don't want murderers to get guns by default.

Call it a pet peeve, but I think it's important. You don't.

You're fine with murderers getting guns after an arbitrary amount of time, no more questions asked.

[m>s]

I recognized the incompetence.

You want murderers to get guns by default.

I disagree.

I don't want murderers to get guns by default.

Call it a pet peeve, but I think it's important. You don't.

You're fine with murderers getting guns after an arbitrary amount of time, no more questions asked.
Go do something productive damn.

[ChumpDumper]

Go do something productive damn.You first.

[m>s]

You first.
I already did earlier this afternoon I'm back now but you shitpost too much. One day you're going to look back on your life and your wasted youth posting hundreds of thousands of times in Internet arguments.

[ChumpDumper]

I already did earlier this afternoon.What was that?

[m>s]

Working on the business dude but I forget online shilling is what you do for a living. How many shekels do they pay you?

[ChumpDumper]

Working on the business dude but I forget online shilling is what you do for a living. How many shekels do they pay you?I have today off from my job.

Only sucker accountants work on weekends.

[m>s]

>implying

thats funny, pretty sure you really are a paid shill though

[ChumpDumper]

>implying

thats funny, pretty sure you really are a paid shill thoughWell, you're also an idiot.

[m>s]

Jidf tactics 101. Try to discredit he source rather than refute the information. You're on here way too much and way too invested to be a normal human being.

[ChumpDumper]

Jidf tactics 101. Try to discredit he source rather than refute the information. You're on here way too much and way too invested to be a normal human being.All the information you provide points to your being an idiot.

Prove me wrong.

[m>s]

I've posted my iq test results and college gpa before I'm under no such obligation to prove anything further to you. If you still choose to believe your phony assumptions then I'll just have to live with that like you'll have to live with being a kike shill. We will let everyone else decide whether they think it's true or not.

[ChumpDumper]

I've posted my iq test results and college gpa before I'm under no such obligation to prove anything further to you.That's not proof you aren't an idiot.


If you still choose to believe your phony assumptions then I'll just have to live with that like you'll have to live with being a kike shill. We will let everyone else decide whether they think it's true or not.:cry

[m>s]

Yes it's very much proof, you couldn't have both a 140+ iq and also a 4.0 through college as an idiot. Keep crying tho it looks good on you.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes it's very much proof, you couldn't have both a 140+ iq and also a 4.0 through college as an idiot.Of course you can still be an idiot.

Keep being insecure tho it looks good on you.

[m>s]

You have a strange definition of idiot pal

[ChumpDumper]

You have a strange definition of idiot palNo, it's fairly standard.

[m>s]

No the standard definition sure doesn't fit me, I'm in the top 1% of intelligence

[ChumpDumper]

lol so insecure.

[spurraider21]

There is nothing wrong with the system. 3 days is plenty of time to properly run a NICS. The FBI fucked this one up royally.

"Comey said the FBI made the error due to a breakdown in the background check system and confusion with paperwork between the FBI, local police departments and county jurisdictions

Due to Roof's admission during an arrest in late February that he was in possession of drugs, he should not have been permitted to buy the gun he used in the massacre. However, an agent working for the FBI's background check system who was performing the review on Roof failed to contact the Columbia, South Carolina, police department which arrested Roof, in part because of a clerical error in records listing the wrong agency.
Because Roof's background check took longer than three days to complete, the gun shop owner was allowed to sell the gun to Roof. The law permits gun sellers to sell guns if a background check takes longer than three days to complete"
that's a fucked up system tbh :lol

[Quetzal-X]

Cant lose the $ale afterall , 3 days is the most a business should have to wait to get that money. Anything more would clearly be unreasonable and anti-busine$$

[m>s]

^Get out of here kike

[boutons_deux]

NRA Calls Loophole That Allowed Charleston Shooter To Buy A Gun "A Critical Safety Valve"

The National Rifle Association is defending the loophole in federal law that allowed the alleged killer of nine people in a Charleston, South Carolina, church to buy a gun without a completed background check by downplaying that thousands of dangerous people exploit the loophole each year to obtain guns.

On July 10, FBI Director James Comey announced (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-accused-charleston-shooter-should-not-have-been-able-to-buy-gun/2015/07/10/0d09fda0-271f-11e5-b72c-2b7d516e1e0e_story.html) that Dylann Storm Roof was ineligible under federal law to buy the gun used in the attack because of a prior admission to drug possession.

Due to paperwork errors, however, an employee at the FBI-administered National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which processes background checks for guns sold by licensed dealers, was unable to locate and view Roof's arrest record, despite knowing that one existed somewhere (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us/article/Jail-clerical-error-acknowledged-in-church-6382064.php).

Under the current background check system, if a check cannot be completed within three business days, it may proceed at the gun dealer's discretion in what is known as (http://smartgunlaws.org/background-check-procedures-policy-summary/) a "default proceed" sale. According to the FBI, this is how Roof's sale was completed.

The "default proceed" sale only exists (https://www.scribd.com/doc/271549007/139CongRec4-Gekas-Amendment) because of an NRA-backed amendment (http://www.factcheck.org/2013/04/biden-revises-nra-history-on-background-checks/) to the 1993 Brady background check law that created the current background check system.

In a July 17 post (https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150717/background-check-bill-seeks-to-create-backdoor-gun-prohibition-while-bloomberg-group-piles-on) on its lobbying website, the NRA sought to defend the loophole it helped create by attacking a legislative proposal (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3051/text) by Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) to eliminate "default proceed" sales, arguing that the congressman was "exploiting a recent tragedy."

The NRA described "default proceed" sales as "a critical safety valve" to shield prospective gun purchasers from undergoing delays in the completion of background checks. (More than 90 percent (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/2014-operations-report) of checks processed by NICS are completed instantly.)

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/07/21/nra-calls-loophole-that-allowed-charleston-shoo/204516

[Quadzilla99]

1158080934211702788

[Quadzilla99]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBMV9QkXoAAW2q5?format=jpg&name=large

Lmao

[Winehole23]

WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE POOR WHITE BOYS WHO ARE IN PAIN, WHO ARE DRIVEN TO DO THIS BY RADICAL FEMINISM AND A DOMINEERING PC CULTURE THAT PROVIDES NO SAFE OUTLET FOR RACIST URGES.




(except online and in most public spaces)

[Spurtacular]

WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE POOR WHITE BOYS WHO ARE IN PAIN, WHO ARE DRIVEN TO DO THIS BY RADICAL FEMINISM AND A DOMINEERING PC CULTURE THAT PROVIDES NO SAFE OUTLET FOR RACIST URGES.




(except online and in most public spaces)

This PSA brought to you by blakehole.

[Winehole23]

This PSA brought to you by blakehole.This PSA brought to you by Derp, who whines incessantly online about how he and his alt-lite friends are silenced online by mean liberals.

[Spurtacular]

This PSA brought to you by Derp, who whines incessantly online about how he and his alt-lite friends are silenced online by mean liberals.

:cry Muh censorship :cry

[Winehole23]

:cry Muh censorship :cryNo one is censoring you.

It's grandiose to assume anyone cares so much about what you say.

[Spurtacular]

No one is censoring you.

It's grandiose to assume anyone cares so much about what you say.

Philo hole.

[Winehole23]

Philo hole.White flag, you ran out of responses.

It's like you think there are only three posters on this board who disagree with you.

Poor Derp. Very limited imagination.

[Winehole23]

But, infinite sock puppets to summon, should you ever get too lonely in a thread.

[Spurtacular]

White flag, you ran out of responses.

It's like you think there are only three posters on this board who disagree with you.

Poor Derp. Very limited imagination.

:lol Sperm shield trying to sympathize.

[Winehole23]

:lol Sperm shield trying to sympathize.Huh?

Nobody is censoring you. There's no one to shield from your attack.

[Spurtacular]

Huh?

Nobody is censoring you. There's no one to shield from your attack.

I'm not saying anybody is. Okay, you're not a philo; you're just gawd damn dumb.

[Winehole23]

I'm not saying anybody is. Okay, you're not a philo; you're just gawd damn dumb.If there's no one censoring you, who am I shielding?

[Winehole23]

No one is censoring your alt-lite friends online either. We know this because they complain incessantly about it on free online platforms.

[Spurtacular]

If there's no one censoring you, who am I shielding?

Geez, you like a good spoon feeding with your sperm shielding.

You pretend that the censorship going on in this country isn't real. You're a fucking tool.

[Winehole23]

Geez, you like a good spoon feeding with your sperm shielding.

You pretend that the censorship going on in this country isn't real. You're a fucking tool.Who's censoring you?

Who's censoring your alt-lite online friends and how did you find out about it?

Online? On YT, FB and Twitter?

[boutons_deux]

Involuntary Celibates are an ‘emerging domestic terrorism threat’:

Texas warns of an ‘Incel Rebellion’

Misogynistic men who identify as part of the “Involuntary Celibate” movement are domestic terrorism threats

“Although not a new movement,

Involuntary Celibates (Incels) are an emerging domestic terrorism threat

as current adherents demonstrate marked acts or threats of violence in furtherance of their social grievance,” the report noted.

“Once viewed as a criminal threat by many law enforcement authorities,

Incels are now seen as a growing domestic terrorism concern

due to the ideological nature of recent Incel attacks internationally, nationwide, and in Texas.”

“What begins as a personal grievance due to perceived rejection by women

may morph into allegiance to, and attempts to further, an Incel Rebellion.

The result has thrust the Incel movement into the realm of domestic terrorism,”

“The violence demonstrated by Incels in the past decade,

coupled with extremely violent online rhetoric,

suggests this particular threat could soon match, or potentially eclipse, the level of lethalness demonstrated by other domestic terrorism types,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/inv..._campaign=3454 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/involuntary-celibates-are-an-emerging-domestic-terrorism-threat-texas-warns-of-an-incel-rebellion/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3454)

http://www.dps.texas.gov/director_st...Assessment.pdf (http://www.dps.texas.gov/director_staff/media_and_communications/2020/txTerrorThreatAssessment.pdf)

But Trash/Miller are gonna block entry of more countries.

"We get this guy laid, he won't be any trouble" -- Dr Peter Venkman

[Trill Clinton]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Families of nine victims killed, and survivors, in a racist attack at a Black South Carolina church have reached a settlement with the Justice Department over a faulty background check that allowed Dylann Roof (https://apnews.com/hub/dylann-roof) to purchase the gun he used in the 2015 massacre.

The $88 million deal, which includes $63 million for the families of the slain and $25 million for survivors of the shooting, was set to be announced Thursday in Washington, Bakari Sellers, an attorney who helped broker the agreement, told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Sellers said the “88” figure was purposeful. It’s a number typically associated with white supremacy and the number of bullets Roof said he had taken with him to the attack.

“We’ve given a big ‘F you’ to white supremacy and racism,” Sellers told AP. “We’re doing that by building generational wealth in these Black communities, from one of the most horrific race crimes in the country.”

According to the Justice Department, settlements for the families of those killed range from $6 million to $7.5 million per claimant. Survivors’ settlements are $5 million per claimant.
Months before the June 17, 2015 church shooting, Roof was arrested on Feb. 28 by Columbia, South Carolina police on the drug possession charge. But a series of clerical errors and missteps allowed Roof to buy the handgun he later used in the massacre.

The errors included wrongly listing the sheriff’s office as the arresting agency in the drug case, according to court documents. An examiner with the National Instant Criminal Background Check System found some information on the arrest but needed more to deny the sale, so she sent a fax to a sheriff’s office. The sheriff’s office responded it didn’t have the report, directing her to the Columbia police.

Under the system’s operating procedures, the examiner was directed to a federal listing of law enforcement agencies, but Columbia police did not appear on the list. After trying the separate West Columbia Police Department and being told it was the wrong agency, the examiner did nothing more.

After a three-day waiting period, Roof went back to a West Columbia store to pick up the handgun.

The lawsuit for a time was thrown out, with a judge writing that an examiner followed procedures but also blasting the federal government for what he called its “abysmally poor policy choices” in how it runs the national database for firearm background checks. The suit was subsequently reinstated by a federal appeals court.

“The mass shooting at Mother Emanuel AME Church was a horrific hate crime that caused immeasurable suffering for the families of the victims and the survivors,” Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement. “Since the day of the shooting, the Justice Department has sought to bring justice to the community, first by a successful hate crime prosecution and today by settling civil claims.”

In 2017, Roof became the first person in the U.S. sentenced to death for a federal hate crime. Authorities have said Roof opened fire during the Bible study at the church, raining down dozens of bullets on those assembled. He was 21 at the time.

The slain included the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, pastor of the AME Emanuel Church, a state senator, as well as other pillars of the community. They all shared deep devotion to the church, known as Mother Emanuel, and passed that faith along to their families, many of whom offered Roof forgiveness when he appeared in court just days after the attack.

The FBI has acknowledged that Roof’s drug possession arrest should have prevented him from buying a gun.

Speaking with AP in Washington ahead of the news conference, Pinckney’s eldest daughter recalled the night of the shooting and said she was committed to maintaining her father’s legacy, who died when she was 11.

“I’ve done whatever I can to keep his memory alive and to carry on his legacy throughout my life,” Eliana Pinckney, 17, told AP.

“Just to make sure that the memories that I have with him can be shared with other people so that other people are inspired by the life that he lived, and the life that he would keep living if he was still here.”

The deal, which was reached earlier this month, is still pending a judge’s approval, Sellers said.

“All nine of these families have been so strong, and they deserve this closure,” Sellers said. “Of course we wanted more, but this is just, and this is justice, and finally, these families can say that they got it.”
https://www.counton2.com/news/local...9-killed-in-racist-attack-emanuel-ame-church/ (https://www.counton2.com/news/local-news/doj-reaches-88m-settlement-with-survivors-families-of-9-killed-in-racist-attack-emanuel-ame-church/)

[Trill Clinton]

Not enough but I hope this helps the families healing process.

[boutons_deux]

What about Sutherland Springs church massacre?

Trial begins to assess damages in 2017 Sutherland Springs church massacre

The trial will determine how much the Air Force should pay survivors, families of those killed

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2021/10/06/trial-begins-to-assess-damages-in-2017-sutherland-springs-church-massacre/