Warriors: Does Draymond Green deserve a max-deal contract? [Archive]

DMC

06-23-2015, 10:37 PM

Deserve? Who knows. He's undersized for his role, but he hustles and has good timing and good hands. Great defenders are hard to come by, but they don't often get max deals without an offensive package as well. He's ok on offense, but just middle of the pack really, maybe just a tad higher than that. These days offense sells.

I think Draymond will entertain offers from Detroit and others in that area. He's got his ring and could now get his retirement fund all fluffy. Sticking around for less, if they ask for it, could just mean getting people like Klay more money for being shooters.

TheGoldStandard

06-23-2015, 10:38 PM

Does green deserve a max deal nope, will he get one yep,

Buddy Mignon

06-23-2015, 10:38 PM

He's the fourth best player... no.

Buddy Mignon

06-23-2015, 10:39 PM

Randle will be better than this nigga.

AlexJones

06-23-2015, 10:42 PM

Max for him is only 4 years/60 mil IIRC.. he's way worth that.

DMC

06-23-2015, 10:42 PM

Randle will be better than this nigga.
Or Rondle. Either way.

m>s

06-24-2015, 01:43 AM

Or Rondle. Either way.
:lmao they're getting stuck with that bum

Sean Cagney

06-24-2015, 01:55 AM

Max deals thrown out nowadays to those who do not deserve it nor would usually get it but he might end up getting one. You can thank the Bledsoes of the world for contracts like this for good players but not franchise players meaning #1's on a team. He is a very good player but not a franchise player, he will get the max though.

spurraider21

06-24-2015, 02:28 AM

its really difficult to evaluate anybody's actual worth with the new TV deal coming up. if there was no projected cap spike, then i'd say hell no, green isn't worth a max. but all bets are off with the expected jump

~O~

06-24-2015, 02:33 AM

I think he gets a max deal that'll be worth less with the new salary cap.

Mikeanaro

06-24-2015, 02:40 AM

Nou.

TheCultOfPersonality

06-24-2015, 02:40 AM

No.

DJR210

06-24-2015, 03:29 AM

He's the fucking champ, hell yeah

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/draymond-green-championship-belt.jpg

Franklin

06-24-2015, 04:45 AM

glorified Brandon Bass imho, overrated role player who's gonna get grossly overpaid.

Jodelo

06-24-2015, 09:43 AM

Does not fit!

spursparker9

06-24-2015, 09:52 AM

Another nut case tbh.

Same mold with JR Smith, Lance Stephenson etc etc

Killakobe81

06-24-2015, 10:00 AM

No. current cap, new cap doesnt matter. GSW won because they had players like Green contributing value ABOVE their contract level. Same was true of Curry (like that knuckelhead DMC paying above their payscale) when you start overpaying guys ... it's the start of your ending as a legit title contender. Spurs, cavs etc should hope they do give him the max ...

TDMVPDPOY

06-24-2015, 10:24 AM

wasnt this clown jealous of kawhi winning dpoy

then he gets the chance to prove himself against lebron in a championship series, was meant to be lebron stopper, but didnt even defend lebron

m>s

06-24-2015, 10:44 AM

I would say no but what if he demands one? They'd be stupid to let him walk after winning the championship and him being the heart of that team.

Thread

06-24-2015, 11:24 AM

You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. Now, NOW, now you have to pay the dregs of your society. Close your eyes, hold your nose and sign on the line. You got nary other choice.

Spur-Addict

06-24-2015, 11:33 AM

Fuck no

Splits

06-24-2015, 04:46 PM

If $8m is the max deal, then yes.

DMC

06-24-2015, 05:47 PM

Does not fit!
To accommodate his large size, make sure you are lubricated enough from foreplay before penetration. Stay on top during intercourse. That way, you can control how deep his penis penetrates.

spurraider21

06-24-2015, 05:49 PM

He's valuable more to a team where he fits absolutely perfectly, like Golden State, than he would for an offensively challenged team.

DMC

06-24-2015, 05:49 PM

I didn't see anyone planning to stop Green, or planning to double Green, or planning how to break Green's defense. Green was left wide open because others were being covered and he still froze up and didn't shoot at times.

I'd rather have Danny Green than Draymond Green, real talk.

Raven

06-24-2015, 05:50 PM

hell no

DMC

06-24-2015, 05:51 PM

He's valuable more to a team where he fits absolutely perfectly, like Golden State, than he would for an offensively challenged team.
Cavs showed how to beat GS. You just bother the fuck out of the shooters, duh. You make Iggy or someone else beat you, and they did, but they won't do it every time, else they'd not be bench guys.

spurraider21

06-24-2015, 05:55 PM

damn, if you stop the other team's best offensive players, their offense might underperform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcfPi59d1BM

DMC

06-24-2015, 06:03 PM

damn, if you stop the other team's best offensive players, their offense might underperform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcfPi59d1BM

Which means Draymond only had to really worry about Lebron. Imagine Irving, Vaj and Vag weren't injured.

Hell, by your logic Delly is the best defender in the league. Should get a max contract.

spurraider21

06-24-2015, 06:36 PM

Which means Draymond only had to really worry about Lebron. Imagine Irving, Vaj and Vag weren't injured.

Hell, by your logic Delly is the best defender in the league. Should get a max contract.
except i didnt say i thought Green was a max player. and nowhere did i imply delly is the best defender in the league. why would i consider him to be, because curry had a bad game? :lol

ambchang

06-25-2015, 08:07 AM

Green is like the modern day Marion who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Can do everything reasonably well, nothing spectacularly, overrated defensively (still good, just overrated), gives the illusion that he can create on offense. Can shoot, can pass, can dribble, but would struggle if the opposition actually decides to hone in on him. Benefits immensely from PGs who can shoot at an all time great level.

Marion received the max under an environment where max contracts were given out much more loosely, and even then it backfired badly. So no, Green does not deserve the max.

TDMVPDPOY

06-25-2015, 08:14 AM

jack of all trades, master of none

DMC

06-25-2015, 11:06 AM

except i didnt say i thought Green was a max player. and nowhere did i imply delly is the best defender in the league. why would i consider him to be, because curry had a bad game? :lol

If you stop the other team's best offensive player...blah blah blah. Yet Curry had a bad game.

These roooose colored glasses...that Philo is loooookin' through...

spurraider21

06-25-2015, 11:21 AM

If you stop the other team's best offensive player...blah blah blah. Yet Curry had a bad game.

These roooose colored glasses...that Philo is loooookin' through...
one poor game out of 6? amazing. i guess iguodala deserves a max for holding lebron to sub 40% shooting too

DMX7

06-25-2015, 01:08 PM

likely? No team except for the Knicks is stupid enough to give him a max deal.

DMC

06-25-2015, 03:02 PM

Delly did work. Get over it. Stephen usurped by a bench player.

DMC

06-25-2015, 06:37 PM

one poor game out of 6? amazing. i guess iguodala deserves a max for holding lebron to sub 40% shooting too
In one post you said:

"damn, if you stop the other team's best offensive players, their offense might underperform."

Then you defended that with the following:

"...why would i consider him to be, because curry had a bad game? "

Either the best offensive player was stopped or he wasn't stopped. You're trying to have your cake after you've already eaten it.

Just more nonsensical bullshit posting from Philo, never a decent take, just petty bickering and double speak.

spurraider21

06-25-2015, 06:38 PM

:lol 3 hours later without a response and this is still bugging you. move on

DMC

07-01-2015, 04:07 PM

:lol 3 hours later without a response and this is still bugging you. move on

Warriors and Green have reached an impasse, contract talks are off currently.

Sounds like they don't want to max him out, or he wants a 2 year deal with an option after 1.

angrydude

07-01-2015, 04:17 PM

angrydude

07-01-2015, 04:22 PM

Don't the warriors already have close to the largest payroll in the NBA even before he signs? The lux tax is going to hurt.

DMC

07-01-2015, 04:34 PM

Don't the warriors already have close to the largest payroll in the NBA even before he signs? The lux tax is going to hurt.

They could move David Lee, but he's got a whopper of a contract.

imo you don't have an impasse with your star defender after a championship when his max salary is 60m over 4 years. Maybe he doesn't fit into their scheme.

whitemamba

07-01-2015, 05:33 PM

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DMC

07-01-2015, 05:54 PM

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det pic looks like Bogey is hitting cervix.

Venti Quattro

07-01-2015, 11:02 PM

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Dray stays. Never a doubt
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Venti Quattro

07-08-2015, 11:29 PM

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Walter Donovan

07-08-2015, 11:30 PM

Lmao all "no" votes

AlexJones

04-05-2016, 04:44 PM

He's the fourth best player... no.

Randle will be better than this nigga.

Nou.

No.

glorified Brandon Bass imho, overrated role player who's gonna get grossly overpaid.

Another nut case tbh.

Same mold with JR Smith, Lance Stephenson etc etc

No. current cap, new cap doesnt matter. GSW won because they had players like Green contributing value ABOVE their contract level. Same was true of Curry (like that knuckelhead DMC paying above their payscale) when you start overpaying guys ... it's the start of your ending as a legit title contender. Spurs, cavs etc should hope they do give him the max ...

You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. Now, NOW, now you have to pay the dregs of your society. Close your eyes, hold your nose and sign on the line. You got nary other choice.

Fuck no

hell no

:lmao
Benoit

AlexJones

04-05-2016, 04:45 PM

overrated defensively (still good, just overrated)

:lmao:lmao:rollin

apalisoc_9

04-05-2016, 05:01 PM

:lmao:lmao:rollin
That nigga is an old man bro :lol

Killakobe81

04-05-2016, 05:23 PM

:lmao
Benoit

I still stand behind my post at time. Dubs were great because people were outperforming their contracts ...YOu can argue that now even at near max he is at least coiming close. I just dont agree with paying non stars max money but Green is giving you almost star level play and did make the ASG ...
Plus unlike Cubes ...dubs brought back the band for an encore.
Cubes chickenshit ass would not ...

Splits

04-05-2016, 05:47 PM

I still stand behind my post at time. Dubs were great because people were outperforming their contracts ...YOu can argue that now even at near max he is at least coiming close. I just dont agree with paying non stars max money but Green is giving you almost star level play and did make the ASG ...
Plus unlike Cubes ...dubs brought back the band for an encore.
Cubes chickenshit ass would not ...

Right, because you don't understand economics there are only like 4 dudes in the league that "deserve max".

ambchang

04-05-2016, 09:57 PM

:lmao:lmao:rollin

That nigga is an old man bro :lol

Second on his team in drating Dws/48, and dbpm.

Yeah, he's most definitely overs rated defensively.

And yeah, he was even more overrated now than last year, when I wrote that comment.