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tholdren
06-29-2015, 09:31 PM
No Tiago No Title, I guarantee it.
Did GSW have a center? How about Cleveland? Who was their defensive stopper?

look_at_g_shred
06-29-2015, 09:32 PM
kind of, but think how teams are playing and winning now. There really isn't a dominant center that carries a team. Its all perimeter players, and hustle. It would be different, possibly, during the Shaq, Hakeem era, but now who is dominant in the post?

Basketball is the ultimate - take the best available player, its not football where you have to have certain skill sets to be effective at a certain position.
Bruh we just won a title a year ago with splitter manning the middle for most of our run. They're are teams where he is essential.

K...
06-29-2015, 10:09 PM
Did GSW have a center? How about Cleveland? Who was their defensive stopper?

Bogut and mosgov are two top 20 nba centers. What we saw on the finals was a game of mutual destruction. You play your best players for a given matchup. Bogut was less effective than small ball.



There's a huge difference between playing small as a changeup and playing it as your bread and butter

tholdren
06-29-2015, 10:25 PM
Bogut and mosgov are two top 20 nba centers. What we saw on the finals was a game of mutual destruction. You play your best players for a given matchup. Bogut was less effective than small ball.



There's a huge difference between playing small as a changeup and playing it as your bread and butter

Top 20 nba centers in a shitty center decade? Andrew Bogut was 91 PER(14) in playoffs this year and Mosgov was 44 (17.9) out of 208 players.

The only team built around a Big worth anything is MEM in my opinion. Think?

maverick1948
06-30-2015, 10:30 AM
A deal is already in place for Splitter. LA is coming to SA. His contract may surprise you. Same with Kawhi on contract. Like I have said before Pop and RC can get creative with these two and make room for Danny Green.

Chinook
06-30-2015, 10:50 AM
A deal is already in place for Splitter. LA is coming to SA. His contract may surprise you. Same with Kawhi on contract. Like I have said before Pop and RC can get creative with these two and make room for Danny Green.

Lol.

bklynspursfan
06-30-2015, 01:58 PM
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ducks
06-30-2015, 02:06 PM
Oh my god green going there instead of splitter

CGD
06-30-2015, 02:31 PM
I would think CLE would want Boris over Tiago, with Mosgov and Verajao.

Btw is Boris only partially guaranteed next year?

Big P
06-30-2015, 02:41 PM
Verajao is always injured, they need a solid backup C.

hater
06-30-2015, 02:43 PM
Verajao is always injured, they need a solid backup C.

and Splitter is not?

CGD
06-30-2015, 02:48 PM
Verajao is always injured, they need a solid backup C.

That's a lot of cash for 3 centers, by my count over 22m. Not to mention they have to resign Thompson who plays like a C even though he's only 6'9".

Boris' diversity for the position makes more sense in my mind. Also, he's as good a back up plan as they're going to get if Love leaves.

DPG21920
06-30-2015, 02:49 PM
Oh my god green going there instead of splitter

Can't really happen. CLE can't participate in a S&T due to the apron. With bringing Love and Lebron back, they won't be able to do a S&T

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-30-2015, 02:50 PM
and Splitter is not?

At least Splitter health isn't compromised by something that either knocks him out for the season or tries to kill him for multiple seasons.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 02:54 PM
Verajao is always injured, they need a solid backup C.

Splitter is always injured too :lol

Chinook
06-30-2015, 03:55 PM
Splitter and Mills for Mozgov? I think that would work pretty well short- and long-term.

Marcus Bryant
06-30-2015, 04:03 PM
Do not see Cavs moving Mosgov after the Finals.

tholdren
06-30-2015, 04:06 PM
Splitter and Mills for Mozgov? I think that would work pretty well short- and long-term.

Eh. Splitter for Moz maybe, but if Spurs trade Patty, they are in a worse situation then they are in now. Literally no SG who can create his own shot. And we all saw what happened with no perimeter scoring.

We still need a slasher to make effective, in addition to a low post presence.

monkeypunk
06-30-2015, 04:13 PM
Do not see Cavs moving Mosgov after the Finals.

Yep, unless its a homerun like LMA, then no way they do after his Finals performance.

DrSteffo
06-30-2015, 04:22 PM
Splitter is always injured too :lol

No? Why the lies?

cd98
06-30-2015, 04:28 PM
Kind of disappointing to see Splitter go on a strict salary dump. He's certainly better than that. You'd think we could at least get a pick out of it.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 04:31 PM
Do not see Cavs moving Mosgov after the Finals.

There not, his name was not even mentioned at all.. I heard someone for Haywoods expiring and that only, then someone brings another trade up :lol

Chinook
06-30-2015, 04:50 PM
There not, his name was not even mentioned at all.. I heard someone for Haywoods expiring and that only, then someone brings another trade up :lol

I'm talking about the actual asset. Haywood's deal is implied.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-30-2015, 04:50 PM
Kind of disappointing to see Splitter go on a strict salary dump. He's certainly better than that. You'd think we could at least get a pick out of it.

We're getting LaMarcus Aldridge out of it.

gambit1990
06-30-2015, 04:56 PM
trade splitter and parker together.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 05:05 PM
I'm talking about the actual asset. Haywood's deal is implied.

Yes but he is not on the trading block.

Chinook
06-30-2015, 05:07 PM
Yes but he is not on the trading block.

You don't know that.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 05:07 PM
trade splitter and parker together.

Parker isnt getting traded nor would those contracts come close yo matching up, better throw more in there for those two than Haywood.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 05:10 PM
You don't know that.

Since his name is not mentioned at all what is the point??? I want so and so from a team so let me go post their name as if it will happen, the thing is it is not even rumored in the talks and they are not trading him for Splitter.

Chinook
06-30-2015, 05:13 PM
Since his name is not mentioned at all what is the point??? I want so and so from a team so let me go post their name as if it will happen, the thing is it is not even rumored in the talks and they are not trading him for Splitter.

Splitter wasn't in the tweet either. Neither were the picks that would undoubtedly trade hands. The tweet said the Spurs and Cavs were talking about Haywood's contract. Haywood and Mozgov for Splitter and Mills fits that tweet as well as Diaw and Mills for Haywood and a first would.

cd98
06-30-2015, 05:15 PM
We're getting LaMarcus Aldridge out of it.

Yes and no. It makes it possible to get Aldridge, but you would think you could get more than a salary dump. That's a great deal for Cavs.

crc21209
06-30-2015, 05:20 PM
Now theres this....

Jason Lloyd–*‏@JasonLloydABJ

Idea of trade between #Cavs and Spurs involving Haywood contract "never discussed," I was told.

1:51 PM - 30 Jun 2015

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/status/615986002411266048

CGD
06-30-2015, 05:22 PM
Splitter and Mills for Mozgov? I think that would work pretty well short- and long-term.

Didn't they "checkin" on Sasha Kaun, which the Cavs have?

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 05:24 PM
Splitter wasn't in the tweet either. Neither were the picks that would undoubtedly trade hands. The tweet said the Spurs and Cavs were talking about Haywood's contract. Haywood and Mozgov for Splitter and Mills fits that tweet as well as Diaw and Mills for Haywood and a first would.

Haywoods name was in the Tweet so that was the focus as far as getting his contract and then dumping it for LA right? They were talking about Haywoods contract indeed, so that is what I was addressing there and someone on another board mentioned Splitter so that is not legit either and I don't know why I threw his name in other than he is on the block. How does Mosgov fit that tweet? His name is not even mentioned like I asked or was it? I agree on the rest.
Now theres this....

Jason Lloyd–*‏@JasonLloydABJ

Idea of trade between #Cavs and Spurs involving Haywood contract "never discussed," I was told.

1:51 PM - 30 Jun 2015

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/status/615986002411266048

I bet it was just some bullshit rumor some blogger made up in their head or some source "HEARD" and it gets thrown out there. I will just wait and see now, all this shit is irrelevant until something actually happens.

024
06-30-2015, 05:27 PM
Now theres this....

Jason Lloyd–*‏@JasonLloydABJ

Idea of trade between #Cavs and Spurs involving Haywood contract "never discussed," I was told.

1:51 PM - 30 Jun 2015

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/status/615986002411266048
Thank goodness. The Spurs can find a much better team to trade with.

Sean Cagney
06-30-2015, 05:37 PM
Thank goodness. The Spurs can find a much better team to trade with.

You mean and not help a contender plus get some a lot better than Haywoods contract??? I hope so man.

bklynspursfan
07-01-2015, 10:04 AM
https://instagram.com/p/4mQx7cs_nE/

noles1983
07-01-2015, 10:07 AM
https://instagram.com/p/4mQx7cs_nE/

kenneth_zachary91 Spurs going to get rid of your ass. Time to bring in LA!

:lmao

maverick1948
07-04-2015, 07:35 PM
Lol.
Hey Chinook What did I tell you?

Sean Cagney
07-04-2015, 07:36 PM
We're getting LaMarcus Aldridge out of it.

Good call. They had to know they were definitely getting him.

Chinook
07-04-2015, 07:46 PM
Hey Chinook What did I tell you?

I lol'd at your attempt at portraying yourself as having inside knowledge.


A deal is already in place for Splitter.

Not remotely ground-breaking, as a few of us though so during the draft. Good call, I guess, but no one except haters thought the Spurs would have any trouble moving Splitter. If anything, it's shocking how little they seem to have gotten for him.


LA is coming to SA.

Predictable, but congrats for the conviction, I guess. If you had inside info, that's really cool. But I'm not inclined to believe it.


His contract may surprise you.

It didn't.


Same with Kawhi on contract.

It REALLY didn't.


Like I have said before Pop and RC can get creative with these two and make room for Danny Green.

This is what really made me lol. There wasn't any creativity in the structure of Kawhi and especially LMA to allowed them to keep Green. Unless you're talking about Kawhi not getting extended. But that happened back in October, so it's not remotely breaking news.

baseline bum
07-04-2015, 07:49 PM
A deal is already in place for Splitter. LA is coming to SA. His contract may surprise you. Same with Kawhi on contract. Like I have said before Pop and RC can get creative with these two and make room for Danny Green.

:tu

DPG21920
07-04-2015, 08:14 PM
:tu

Da fuq? Ima bout to turn into Lamarcus Aldridge. Chinook and I (and others ) have been painting a picture like this for so long. I even called that LMA would announce his signing today when almost all other reports said otherwise and this gets a :tu?

I'm so walking in FA..

DMX7
07-04-2015, 11:53 PM
So did we get a 2nd round pick or what?

AaronY
07-06-2015, 01:13 AM
We're getting LaMarcus Aldridge out of it.

Well, no duh. But in a summer where Robin Lopez and other centers are getting huge deals Splitter should have been an asset worth compensation in a trade especially at his salary

phxspurfan
07-06-2015, 02:08 AM
kenneth_zachary91 Spurs going to get rid of your ass. Time to bring in LA!

:lmao

damn son he pulled out the automatic

Sean Cagney
07-06-2015, 03:25 AM
Well, no duh. But in a summer where Robin Lopez and other centers are getting huge deals Splitter should have been an asset worth compensation in a trade especially at his salary

If they got a guy for compensation meaning more salary against the cap then how do they sign Green and then LA, not to mention Kawhi?

This was purely a salary dump to sign, not to get a valuable piece in return to count against the cap. They just cleared to sign LA and that is what they got in return.

Ice009
07-06-2015, 03:44 AM
If they got a guy for compensation meaning more salary against the cap then how do they sign Green and then LA, not to mention Kawhi?

This was purely a salary dump to sign, not to get a valuable piece in return to count against the cap. They just cleared to sign LA and that is what they got in return.

Yeah, they couldn't take back any salary, but maybe could have traded him for a higher draft pick this season, or possibly a draft pick for next year. I hope the Spurs got something out of it other than a straight salary dump.

slick'81
07-06-2015, 03:47 AM
Yeah, they couldn't take back any salary, but maybe could have traded him for a higher draft pick this season, or possibly a draft pick for next year. I hope the Spurs got something out of it other than a straight salary dump.


Atkeast its it's not scola for Jackie butler and a 2nd

AaronY
07-06-2015, 06:33 PM
If they got a guy for compensation meaning more salary
A first round draft pick would have been compensation I was referring to. He should be worth at least a late first rounder considering Mozgov went for two first rounders

Sean Cagney
07-06-2015, 06:44 PM
A first round draft pick would have been compensation I was referring to. He should be worth at least a late first rounder considering Mozgov went for two first rounders

Okay, what dod they get for him???

Mr. Body
07-06-2015, 06:48 PM
A first round draft pick would have been compensation I was referring to. He should be worth at least a late first rounder considering Mozgov went for two first rounders

Hell, Tim Hardaway fetched a first. But we won't get one.