Marc Stein: Spurs are #1 on LaMarcus Aldridge's list

[Uriel]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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Post this in the offseason thread, lol.

[Uriel]

All signs pointing to Aldridge going to the Spurs.


In a perfect scenario, the Spurs have a full understanding of the futures of Duncan, Ginobili and Danny Green when they walk into a 12:01 a.m. ET meeting on July 1 with Leonard and his agent, Brian Elfus, in Los Angeles. The Spurs will offer Leonard a full maximum contract extension, get a commitment and turn themselves toward prying Aldridge back to his Texas roots... It is a testament to the regime of Portland general manager Neil Olshey, the commitment of owner Paul Allen, that the most credible threat to lose Aldridge comes out of San Antonio, the best franchise in sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-kawhi-leonard-will-be-the-nba-s-most-intriguing-free-agent-recruiter-this-summer-084241791.html



One candidate could be LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge), given what league sources describe as strong mutual interest between the All-Star power forward and Spurs officials to explore every opportunity to bring Aldridge back to Texas this summer... One scenario on the personnel grapevine gaining steam is the notion that the Spurs could elect to explore the possibility of dealing away Tiago Splitter (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3233/tiago-splitter) to create more financial flexibility. Splitter has two years left on his contract valued at just under $17 million and is quietly regarded as a key contributor in San Antonio given how well he fits as a frontcourt sidekick next to Duncan. But if you're the Spurs -- and if the increasingly loud rumbles about Aldridge having San Antonio as the preferred destination atop his wish list prove true -- examining Splitter's trade market might suddenly become unavoidable.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3816/summer-scoop-san-antonio-spurs


[The] consistent word on the personnel grapevine at the minute informs us that San Antonio and Dallas not only both believe they have a real shot at signing him but are also legitimately in Aldridge's thoughts... [Sources] insist -- at, yes, this early juncture -- that San Antonio sits near or at the top of Aldridge's list.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3803/steins-scoop-next-for-blazers-aldridge

The free-agent plan for the Spurs is to quickly agree on a five-year max deal with Leonard – “It will be a short conversation,” one person with knowledge of the dynamics said – and empower Leonard to join Duncan in an all-out recruitment of All-Star free agent LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told CBSSports.com... Aldridge, 29, will strongly consider doing a two-year deal with a player option for '16-'17 that would get him back to the market in a position to make tens of millions more at the new max. Even in the Spurs' dream scenario – Duncan and Leonard come back and successfully recruit Aldridge – they will have a hard time retaining free agent Danny Green, who is expected to command $10-$12 million on the open market – which, in 2016, will look like a bargain.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25189492/playoff-buzz-spurs-aim-to-bring-back-duncan-leonard-and-go-after-aldridge



Portland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers), furthermore, are likely to pursue [Kevin Love] in the event that LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) -- as many league executives expect -- flees the Blazers in free agency.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13142511/kevin-love-opts-contract-cleveland-cavaliers-sources

[TheGreatYacht]

^^^

[TheGoldStandard]

All signs pointing to Aldridge going to the Spurs.

Except they need to clear cap space to make his $$ work. Who will it be?

[Uriel]

Except they need to clear cap space to make his $$ work. Who will it be?
There are multiple reports that the Spurs have been trying to trade Splitter to clear enough cap space. A sign and trade involving Splitter and Mills is also a possibility.

[rogues]

Fuck you Spurs..I've never been a fan of aldridge but him being taught how to play in a team oriented system like them Spurs have is lethal for the rest of the league. This nigga aint no Splitter or Baynes:lol..

[TheGoldStandard]

There are multiple reports that the Spurs have been trying to trade Splitter to clear enough cap space. A sign and trade involving Splitter and Mills is also a possibility.

Just building suspense. I think its funny that Aldridge is using the Lakers as a bargaining chip for the Spurs.. That rivalry hasn't been relevant for half a decade.

[TheGoldStandard]

Fuck you Spurs..I've never been a fan of aldridge but him being taught how to play in a team oriented system like them Spurs have is lethal for the rest of the league. This nigga aint no Splitter or Baynes:lol..

He won't get blocked by a PG on the regular

[Spur|n|Austin]

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[timtonymanu]

Not surprising. The only doubt I have is the Spurs not offering him enough money that he wants, otherwise it makes perfect sense for him to join the Spurs.

[tmtcsc]

Except they need to clear cap space to make his $$ work. Who will it be?

Why cant the Spurs just pay the luxury tax for a year if necessary? With the cap going up so high, they would be fine in 2016 right?

[Uriel]

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/539644405494556317/47C2F86059C34ABA50098707C2A959F1E3327B08/

[manufan10]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Why cant the Spurs just pay the luxury tax for a year if necessary? With the cap going up so high, they would be fine in 2016 right?

Can't go over the cap to bring in a new player. Once the cap holds are considered you'd give Aldridge whatever is left and then sign the guys that have bird rights to keep them and go above the cap.

[Duncan2177]

http://i.imgur.com/ekPQfIo.jpg

[Malik Hairston]

PG to be named later
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Duncan

Diaw
Manu
Mills/Joseph

Pretty attractive lineup, tbh..

[dg7md]

We can only hope. LMA + Kawhi as the future building blocks, that'd make us in the mix for years to come.

[TheGoldStandard]

PG to be named later
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Duncan

Diaw
Manu
Mills/Joseph

Pretty attractive lineup, tbh..

:lol

[Ditty]

:lol at those that were thinking LA had no interest in coming here.

Said two weeks ago that the Spurs were number one on his list, and it sounds like the Cyberx guy from Clutchfans who said the same thing was correct also.

Hopefully Cousins doesn't entice him to go to LA if he gets traded, I'll try to keep everybody in the loop :toast :flag:

[Silver&Black]

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[MultiTroll]

Trading Patty just seems wrong.
French pig.....

[BatManu20]

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[Ice009]

:lol at those that were thinking LA had no interest in coming here.

Said two weeks ago that the Spurs were number one on his list, and it sounds like the Cyberx guy from Clutchfans who said the same thing was correct also.

Hopefully Cousins doesn't entice him to go to LA if he gets traded, I'll try to keep everybody in the loop :toast :flag:

Do you have inside info or something?

[Darius Bieber]

Mills should not be traded. He was our only competent PG during the Clippers series.

[benstanfield]

So we sign LMA for two years, contend for those two years, TD retires and Aldridge expires, and then...

...tell Kawhi to get 'injured' and have expiring TP lead us to 15 wins, get a top 5 pick?

[NASpurs]

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[Uriel]

Blazers lack clarity from LaMarcus Aldridge, fear losing free-agent star

The Portland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers) traded (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13144136/portland-trail-blazers-agree-trade-nic-batum-charlotte-hornets-gerald-henderson-noah-vonleh) forward Nicolas Batum (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3416/nicolas-batum) on Wednesday amid a growing belief within the organization that LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) is poised to leave them in free agency, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN.com the Blazers have been pressing for more concrete signals from Aldridge's camp about his plans before the July 1 start of free agency and are ‎increasingly fearful they have little chance of retaining the All-Star big man once he hits the open market.

ESPN.com reported in May that both the San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) and Dallas Mavericks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal/dallas-mavericks) strongly believe they'll have a great shot to lure Aldridge back to his home state of Texas next month. But sources said this week that Aldridge is actually thinking more and more about a free-agent jump to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers).

The Lakers, sources added, firmly believe they will now be in the Aldridge hunt. As ESPN.com first reported ‎Monday, Lakers officials also continue to try to press (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13134455/sacramento-kings-coach-george-karl-wants-trade-demarcus-cousins-owner-vivek-ranadive-not-allow-it) the Sacramento Kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sac/sacramento-kings) to trade them All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4258/demarcus-cousins).

The Spurs, sources say, continue to be Aldridge's most likely destination if he goes through with the idea of leaving the Blazers to start anew. But there is a rising sentiment, sources said, that the Lakers have edged past the Mavericks on Aldridge's wish list despite the fact he was a high school star in Dallas.

San Antonio is likewise familiar ground to Aldridge after he played collegiately at Texas (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns) in nearby Austin.

The Blazers created an additional $4 million of potential ‎salary-cap space by ‎shipping Batum to Charlotte (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/cha/charlotte-hornets) for Gerald Henderson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3993/gerald-henderson) and Noah Vonleh (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3078284/noah-vonleh) and have been well set up by general manager Neil Olshey to have the flexibility to go in a variety of directions if they need to respond to an Aldridge defection.

Sources say Portland plans to be very aggressive in July in trying to convince star guard Damian Lillard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6606/damian-lillard) to commit to a five-year max extension in the $120 million range. And, as ESPN.com reported earlier Wednesday, Portland is expected to make its own hard push in free agency for Oregon-reared Kevin Love (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3449/kevin-love) of the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-cavaliers), should Aldridge leave town.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13145694/portland-trail-blazers-growing-belief-forward-lamarcus-aldridge-leave-team-free-agency

[TheGoldStandard]

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[Spur|n|Austin]

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:lol

[NASpurs]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13145694/portland-trail-blazers-growing-belief-forward-lamarcus-aldridge-leave-team-free-agency

The Spurs, sources say, continue to be Aldridge's most likely destination if he goes through with the idea of leaving the Blazers to start anew. But there is a rising sentiment, sources said, that the Lakers have edged past the Mavericks on Aldridge's wish list despite the fact he was a high school star in Dallas.


San Antonio is likewise familiar ground to Aldridge after he played collegiately at Texas (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns) in nearby Austin.

[Budkin]

I'll believe it when I see it

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol at those that were thinking LA had no interest in coming here.

Said two weeks ago that the Spurs were number one on his list, and it sounds like the Cyberx guy from Clutchfans who said the same thing was correct also.

Hopefully Cousins doesn't entice him to go to LA if he gets traded, I'll try to keep everybody in the loop :toast :flag:

They won't have enough salary to go around to bring both in

[Uriel]

Here's hoping the Kings hold on to Cousins so Aldridge has less incentive to go to Los Angeles.

[Spur|n|Austin]

They won't have enough salary to go around to bring both in

Not with Kobe snorting caviar off the Buss family.

[TheGoldStandard]

Here's hoping the Kings hold on to Cousins so Aldridge has less incentive to go to Los Angeles.

With Kobe's 25Mil and Cousin making 15M + 5M for N. Young They would would be in the same boat money wise to offer Aldridge a big deal but then have virtually 0 dollars to bring anyone else in to fill out that roster. Add into that the prospects they'd have to give up as well.

[Sean Cagney]

He won't get blocked by a PG on the regular

:lol

[itzsoweezee]

Here's hoping the Kings hold on to Cousins so Aldridge has less incentive to go to Los Angeles.

You think LA would want to play with Demarcus?

[Spur|n|Austin]

You think LA would want to play with Demarcus?

It's more of a $ thing

[Malik Hairston]

:lol there's no decent player in the NBA that will voluntarily play with Kobe, let alone Kobe and Cousins, tbh..

Lakers signing Aldridge would be really stupid on their part, though..they aren't anywhere near contending, not sure why they would sign a 30-year old to a max deal..

[apalisoc_9]

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:lmao

[Sean Cagney]

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Him going there would make no sense at all.

[Splits]

I'll believe it when I see it

[TheGoldStandard]

Him going there would make no sense at all.

Agent trying to coax cash out of teams and generate interest

[Ditty]

They won't have enough salary to go around to bring both in

You're right just read up on that. I don't know why he would want to play for a horrible Lakers team that's going to still be pretty bad even if he went there. :lol

Lakersground saying that Clarkson,Okafor and a one legged Randle is a championship core :lmao

I heard the Kings aren't going to do the trade at this time also.

I really think the Spurs are clear cut favorites right now to get LA tbh.

[Silver&Black]

I'll believe it when I see it

[loveforthegame]

I'll believe it when I see it

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs really suck at wining and dining FAs. It's like how Pop doesn't get that seeding and who you play in the first round matters, a lot. They don't get you have to actually pursue people.

[BatManu20]

I'll believe it when I see it

[Spur|n|Austin]

I wonder if people here will believe it when they see it?

No shit.

[TheGoldStandard]

The Spurs really suck at wining and dining FAs. It's like how Pop doesn't get that seeding and who you play in the first round matters, a lot. They don't get you have to actually pursue people.

Pop will call him and ask him if he wants to come off the bench in his smug bastard way

[Ditty]

I can't believe people will believe it when they see it!

[BillMc]

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:lol

[cd021]

There are multiple reports that the Spurs have been trying to trade Splitter to clear enough cap space. A sign and trade involving Splitter and Mills is also a possibility.

wouldn't an S&T have to include Diaw along with Splitter to make the math work?

[cutewizard]

Aldridgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is coming!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

[cutewizard]

Kawhi plus Aldridge = Championship!

[TheGreatYacht]

The Big 3 plus Aldridge = Championship!
FIFY

[therealtruth]

He does realize we don't have the cap space?

[DMC]

The Spurs really suck at wining and dining FAs. It's like how Pop doesn't get that seeding and who you play in the first round matters, a lot. They don't get you have to actually pursue people.
Most successful franchise in pro sports gets it. Thinking they don't is naive.

Spurs fans on their annual delusion trip. Next comes cliff jumping.

[Mugen]

Will all be pointless if Green walks.

[AFBlue]

:lol

[jag]

The Spurs really suck at wining and dining FAs.

Yeah, the real reason SA doesn't land big name FA's is because Pop takes dudes to Applebee's.

What the hell are you talking about?

[aal04]

I like our current team. Healthy we are easily the best.

Thats why i think we need to trim the injury prone players.

Splitter has to go. Hes got a maxxed out frequent flyers card at the gynecologist. hes fantastic when healthy, but hes proven time and time again he is injury prone.

Same with Porker. Though i believe Porker deserves spurs for life, but he has to realize he isnt contributing. He needs to take a massive paycut and probably see his minutes cut to less than Duncan.

As for Duncan, all i can say is that we have had miraculous luck with his injuries. We all wince when he goes down. Duncan will not retire on his own terms nor those terms by the management..

[ace3g]

Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI)Teams are already preparing to line up for LaMarcus Aldridge, but several execs have begrudgingly acknowledged: Spurs will be tough to beat.


Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI)LMA loves how Gregg Popovich has extended the careers of so many players, league sources say. At 30, he wants to play as long as possible.

[davidbowie]

refusing to get my hopes up lol

[Texas_Ranger]

it will be funny when this becomes a Pau Gasol or Kirilenko type of thread. :rollin

[SpursSerb]

Probably using the Spurs to max his value.

[RD2191]

Crofl. LMA ain't coming here.

[ironman2886]

The First Pop/Aldridge conversation:

Pop: "Do you think you're better than Matt Bonner?"
Lamarcus:"Yes."
Pop: "Dont let the door hit you on your way out."

[RD2191]

it will be funny when this becomes a Pau Gasol or Kirilenko type of thread. :rollin
I guarantee it will.

[jjktkk]

Most successful franchise in pro sports gets it. Thinking they don't is naive.

Spurs fans on their annual delusion trip. Next comes cliff jumping. What should come next is educating the ignorant. Like PATFO is opposed to signing star free agents. Some of these Spur's fans on here...

[spurspokesman]

They say the sun shines on a dogs a** every once in a while. I think we finally land a big name free agent. You can only strike out so many times before you hit on something, here's to hoping.......

[Seventyniner]

The First Pop/Aldridge conversation:

Pop: "Do you think you're better than Matt Bonner?"
Lamarcus:"Yes."
Pop: "Dont let the door hit you on your way out."

:lol

[RD2191]

The First Pop/Aldridge conversation:

Pop: "Do you think you're better than Matt Bonner?"
Lamarcus:"Yes."
Pop: "Dont let the door hit you on your way out."
:lmao

[daslicer]

How many people in here will hate LMA when he signs with a team like the Mavs or Lakers?

[Mr. Body]

Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI)Teams are already preparing to line up for LaMarcus Aldridge, but several execs have begrudgingly acknowledged: Spurs will be tough to beat.



Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
(https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI)LMA loves how Gregg Popovich has extended the careers of so many players, league sources say. At 30, he wants to play as long as possible.



The second point is really key. A 30 yr old player can see a franchise monitoring his minutes is very attractive.

[Dex]

How many people in here will hate LMA when he signs with a team like the Mavs or Lakers?

Frankly, if Aldridge is dumb enough to jump on the sinking Lakers ship and join forces with the corpse of Kobe Bryant, we don't want him here. If he is really looking for an opportunity to win, that ain't it.

[dabom]

The First Pop/Aldridge conversation:

Pop: "Do you think you're better than Matt Bonner?"
Lamarcus:"Yes."
Pop: "Dont let the door hit you on your way out."

http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif

[K...]

If he's rumoured to L.A. That's probably a smokescreen. Probably just a warning to Dallas to up their game. L.A. Should be done with tanking but with so many young players, Kobe, and no offensive system or direction, you'd be wasting a few years of your prime. LA would be better off getting a veteran for cheap. Someone who can counterbalance kobe.

[Fireball]

How many people in here will hate LMA when he signs with a team like the Mavs or Lakers?

I will only hate myself because I once again believed a big FA would join the Spurs ...

[daslicer]

Frankly, if Aldridge is dumb enough to jump on the sinking Lakers ship and join forces with the corpse of Kobe Bryant, we don't want him here. If he is really looking for an opportunity to win, that ain't it.

I have no problem with LMA not joining the Spurs but I do have a problem with the spurs making moves such as trading Splitter because they think they are going to get him. This is very risky to do so because LMA doesn't join up than the Spurs have been seriously burned.

[Killakobe81]

:lol there's no decent player in the NBA that will voluntarily play with Kobe, let alone Kobe and Cousins, tbh..

Lakers signing Aldridge would be really stupid on their part, though..they aren't anywhere near contending, not sure why they would sign a 30-year old to a max deal..

This. I do think some players would play with Kobe but signing a near 30 year old for the max only makes sense for a window closing team like spurs not a rebuild like the Lakers.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Mr. Body]

I have no problem with LMA not joining the Spurs but I do have a problem with the spurs making moves such as trading Splitter because they think they are going to get him. This is very risky to do so because LMA doesn't join up than the Spurs have been seriously burned.

The Spurs won't do anything like trade Splitter if they didn't know the next step was in the bag.

[SpursFan86]

I refuse to get my hopes up. I'll believe it when he's in a Spurs jersey.

[Keepin' it real]

I'll believe it when I see it

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[hater]

Got the lube ready nigs

[RD2191]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2db8g34.gif
:lol

[manufan10]

it will be funny when this becomes a Pau Gasol or Kirilenko type of thread. :rollin

:flipoff:ihit


:lol

[Mugen]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2db8g34.gif

:lol

[peacemaker885]

F*ck, we still have to wait till July 1 right?

[CGD]

If the Spurs get the OKC 14th pick without moving splitter (e.g., sending mills or cojo), could it be for Portland in a sign and trade involving splitter?

[TheGoldStandard]

If the Spurs get the OKC 14th pick without moving splitter (e.g., sending mills or cojo), could it be for Portland in a sign and trade involving splitter?

Cant move cojo yet but mills yes. Still not enough money if that's the case

[z0sa]

Sad that it's gonna cost us Tiago most likely. Losing Tiago+adding LMA is not a huge net gain by any means.

[dabom]

Sad that it's gonna cost us Tiago most likely. Losing Tiago+adding LMA is not a huge net gain by any means.

WTF you talking about? Tiago can't even play 15 games without injuring his fucking pussy.

[21209]

Frankly, if Aldridge is dumb enough to jump on the sinking Lakers ship and join forces with the corpse of Kobe Bryant, we don't want him here. If he is really looking for an opportunity to win, that ain't it.

Realistically, with Duncan gone in probably a year, and, if Danny leaves, there's really no huge opportunity to win in SA either.

Kawhi is still an unknown as to whether he can consistently take his game to the next level, and Tony looks finished and likely will be if he has another sub-par season in 2016.

[Dex]

Realistically, with Duncan gone in probably a year, and, if Danny leaves, there's really no huge opportunity to win in SA either.

Kawhi is still an unknown as to whether he can consistently take his game to the next level, and Tony looks finished and likely will be if he has another sub-par season in 2016.

Although obviously no Duncan (who is a once in a generation type of talent), I believe Aldridge gives the Spurs the talent level they would need to continue to compete even after Tim leaves as long the Spurs can put the right pieces around him. They have consistently shown the ability to do that in the past 1.5 decades, so I don't see the situation being as dire as you think.

[DMC]

If he's rumoured to L.A. That's probably a smokescreen. Probably just a warning to Dallas to up their game. L.A. Should be done with tanking but with so many young players, Kobe, and no offensive system or direction, you'd be wasting a few years of your prime. LA would be better off getting a veteran for cheap. Someone who can counterbalance kobe.
RONDO

[Hoops Czar]

If he's rumoured to L.A. That's probably a smokescreen. Probably just a warning to Dallas to up their game. L.A. Should be done with tanking but with so many young players, Kobe, and no offensive system or direction, you'd be wasting a few years of your prime. LA would be better off getting a veteran for cheap. Someone who can counterbalance kobe.

Posters act like playing in LA is a deterrent because of Kobe. Kobe has already said this will be his last season in purple and gold.

[z0sa]

WTF you talking about? Tiago can't even play 15 games without injuring his fucking pussy.

2014 says hi

[dabom]

2014 says hi

We live in the present fool. 2015 happened. He is never going to be healthy again.

[024]

Signing Aldridge is bad if the Spurs have to release the entire bench + Splitter just to get him. Would at least like to retain Diaw, Mills, Ginobili, Baynes and have room to sign a back up guard.

[024]

If the Spurs get the OKC 14th pick without moving splitter (e.g., sending mills or cojo), could it be for Portland in a sign and trade involving splitter?
Why do you want to trade Mills, and even worse, to OKC? Mills showed himself returning to form at the end of the season and is on a cheap contract. He will be vital for the Spurs bench especially since Belli, CJ, and possibly Manu will not be back. There's no point in decimating the Spurs bench just to get Aldridge.

[Beaverfuzz]

Not surprising. The only doubt I have is the Spurs not offering him enough money that he wants, otherwise it makes perfect sense for him to join the Spurs.

All about if he wants the really really big contract in two years. I'm still meh on this but I do feel that Aldridge believes that Portland is kind of blowing up part of the team to give Lillard even more of a leadership role.

[Beaverfuzz]

We live in the present fool. 2015 happened. He is never going to be healthy again.

Yeah, I do believe Tiago's most productive days are behind him.

[bklynspursfan]

Would hate to lose Patty or Tiago, but that's the business sometimes. Hopefully if they must move Tiago, they can keep Patty. Great locker room guy

[Beaverfuzz]

Sad that it's gonna cost us Tiago most likely. Losing Tiago+adding LMA is not a huge net gain by any means.

Totally disagree. Give LMA a summer to work out with Timmuh and how to properly post up and it's a no-brainer. It's what else the Spurs have to give up that make this deal a little sticky.

[Dex]

All of you idiots who are saying Tiago or Parker are done based off of one season apparently weren't Spurs fans when Duncan was struggling from 2008-2011.

If you guys are so psychic, why are you wasting your time here and not out buying lottery tickets or betting horses?

[dabom]

Comparing tiago and parker to tim fucking duncan. :lmao

[Agloco]

Him going there would make no sense at all.

Since when have any of these things made sense.

[RD2191]

All of you idiots who are saying Tiago or Parker are done based off of one season apparently weren't Spurs fans when Duncan was struggling from 2008-2011.

If you guys are so psychic, why are you wasting your time here and not out buying lottery tickets or betting horses?
Lmao. Comparing scrubs to a GOAT.

[Dex]

Lmao. Comparing scrubs to a GOAT.

Lmao. Calling a 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, FMVP, Euroleague MVP player a scrub. GTFO with that weak shit.

[look_at_g_shred]

So if Tiago is not traded tonight, I think it's less likely we LMA. Considering a S&T would have to be done which I don't see POR doing.

[Outlier]

Lmao. Calling a 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, FMVP, Euroleague MVP player a scrub. GTFO with that weak shit.

Pardon that mother fucker, he doesn't see very far and there's no logic to any of his posts.

[wildbill2u]

I won't believe it IF I see it.

[dabom]

Lmao. Calling a 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, FMVP, Euroleague MVP player a scrub. GTFO with that weak shit.

Whatever anyone calls them, you can't compare a generational player to tony and tiago.

[Dex]

Whatever anyone calls them, you can't compare a generational player to tony and tiago.

You don't have to be a generational player to recover from a bad season.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Whatever anyone calls them, you can't compare a generational player to tony and tiago.

Reading comprehension.... There was never a straight comparison.

[SupremeGuy]

Can we please find a fucking way to trade porker for LMA? This team would be fucking unstoppable if we're able to keep everyone, get LMA, and get rid of porker. :wow

:lobt2:

[look_at_g_shred]

Lmao. Calling a 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, FMVP, Euroleague MVP player a scrub. GTFO with that weak shit.
My nigg dex I'm wit you dog I believe it!!

[dabom]

Can we please find a fucking way to trade porker for LMA? This team would be fucking unstoppable if we're able to keep everyone, get LMA, and get rid of porker. :wow

:lobt2:

:lobt2:

[RD2191]

Lmao. Calling a 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, FMVP, Euroleague MVP player a scrub. GTFO with that weak shit.
Perks of playing next to a GOAT. French scrub would probably be out of the league if he didn't play next to Timmy.

[RD2191]

Can we please find a fucking way to trade porker for LMA? This team would be fucking unstoppable if we're able to keep everyone, get LMA, and get rid of porker. :wow

:lobt2:

[look_at_g_shred]

Perks of playing next to a GOAT. French scrub would probably be out of the league if he didn't play next to Timmy.
you still ain't drinking?

[RD2191]

you still ain't drinking?
I don't drink.:lol

[blackfire12]

Chris Broussard just reported that Spurs are still his top pick...
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http://i.imgur.com/j5x3kZf.jpg


In all seriousness I hope he comes to the spurs :lobt2:

[look_at_g_shred]

I don't drink.:lol
you could've fooled me with that take :lmao

[RD2191]

you could've fooled me with that take :lmao
:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

:lol

[stxspurs]

Sad that it's gonna cost us Tiago most likely. Losing Tiago+adding LMA is not a huge net gain by any means.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr01/21/12/grid-cell-18424-1385056079-23.jpg

[RD2191]

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr01/21/12/grid-cell-18424-1385056079-23.jpg
:lmao

[Sean Cagney]

Can we please find a fucking way to trade porker for LMA? This team would be fucking unstoppable if we're able to keep everyone, get LMA, and get rid of porker. :wow

:lobt2:
And start who on the team now at PG for a full season? You would have to sign one because CO Jo is not a starter.

[TheGoldStandard]

And start who on the team now at PG for a full season? You would have to sign one because CO Jo is not a starter.

Depends on who you trade him to

[BatManu20]

It's funny how a lot of people on ST didn't even want Aldridge 2 months ago. Called him an overrated, inefficient stat-stuffer. Now that we're "one of the favorites" to land him, everyone's preparing to order his jersey :lol

Hope he picks the good guys though. Spurs need something if they want to contend next season. Don't see us as legitimate contenders if we stay pat. Too many old bodies/injury issues lingering with this club.

[Chillen]

Aldridge probably likes the fact that he and Leonard can lead this team into the future when in 2 years, Duncan, Manu maybe retire. If they can land Aldridge and resign Duncan, Manu, Green, get some value back for Splitter, it will be tough to beat the Spurs if they stay healthy. I'd love to see a Duncan/Aldridge combo, one alone demands a double team. That will be very hard for a team like the Warriors to defend, Mozgov even beat them up in the paint in the Finals. It will be all about health next season for the Spurs, if they stay healthy and all this happens, they have a very good shot at winning it all.

[SpursFan86]

I'm sorry to ask this because I know it's probably been hashed over a million times, but would we have to get rid of anyone besides Splitter to make room for LMA?

Let's assume Duncan and Manu take favorable contracts, and Green gets $9-10 million/year. We trade Splitter for a pick or something. Would we still need to get rid of Mills?

[SupremeGuy]

And start who on the team now at PG for a full season? You would have to sign one because CO Jo is not a starter.Says who?

Last year's CoJo > Last year's frenchie. It shouldn't be held against CoJo that Pop is stupidly loyal to frenchie and refused to bench him even if it was for the betterment of the team.

[pgardn]

It's funny how a lot of people on ST didn't even want Aldridge 2 months ago. Called him an overrated, inefficient stat-stuffer. Now that we're "one of the favorites" to land him, everyone's preparing to order his jersey :lol

Hope he picks the good guys though. Spurs need something if they want to contend next season. Don't see us as legitimate contenders if we stay pat. Too many old bodies/injury issues lingering with this club.


Count me still on that train. There is no doubting his offensive array although I would like a more potent post game, enter staff and Timmy with the lessons. For some reason I doubt liking guys who seem to give us fits. And mentally... I just don't know. It's a whole different stage for him.

Defense must improve.

And how's that digit? Fully healed or what?

And if I knew Splitter could stay healthy no way I deal him. Now, let us address our PG situation... Based on the end of our season we lack one.

[spurraider21]

We live in the present fool. 2015 happened. He is never going to be healthy again.
lol we live in the present but then you claim to see the future

[elemento]

We're getting LMA sons !

[weeks]

Says who?

Last year's CoJo > Last year's frenchie. It shouldn't be held against CoJo that Pop is stupidly loyal to frenchie and refused to bench him even if it was for the betterment of the team.Last year's team got the six seed and bounced in the first round .
You sure you wanna make this argument dude?

[Mikeanaro]

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr01/21/12/grid-cell-18424-1385056079-23.jpg
:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

Last year's team got the six seed and bounced in the first round .
You sure you wanna make this argument dude?

They were a game away from the 2nd spot. The west is really good

[Darius Bieber]

Perks of playing next to a GOAT. French scrub would probably be out of the league if he didn't play next to Timmy.

And next to Manu.

[Darius Bieber]

How long will this thread go to? Over/under on 75 pages.

[SupremeGuy]

Last year's team got the six seed and bounced in the first round .
You sure you wanna make this argument dude?It helps my argument, dude. We got the 6th seed last year due to injuries and Pop's unwillingness to bench frenchie.

Even then, we probably win the first round if Pop just puts his fucking loyalties aside and starts CoJo instead of that deadweight french pg.

[Mnky]

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr01/21/12/grid-cell-18424-1385056079-23.jpg

:lol

Cory Joseph is 23. Didn't he lead the team to a winning record when he was starting this year ? Not saying he's elite or anything, but I don't see the reason for the hate.

[RD2191]

And next to Manu.
Yup, Manu put the team on his back more than a few times.

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol thinking CJ can run the offense as a starter - his D is solid, but he's not a better starting PG and facilitator than TP - get real.

[dabom]

:lol thinking CJ can run the offense as a starter - his D is solid, but he's not a better starting PG and facilitator than TP - get real.

TP is a cancer on offense and defense. CJ is not either. Get it straight.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol thinking CJ can run the offense as a starter - his D is solid, but he's not a better starting PG and facilitator than TP - get real.

Parker at 33 might not be able to get it done especially consistently.

[ducks]

Parker at 33 might not be able to get it done especially consistently.

if healthy yes if not NO

[RD2191]

TP is a cancer on offense and defense. CJ is not either. Get it straight.
I don't understand Parker fans tbh. They're delusional. Stats show that Parker was one of the worst PGs in the NBA last season. Not only that but he hardly ever made the players he was on the floor with better. I don't think they realize how bad Parker was late in the season. People have posted the numbers plenty of times and they all show they same thing. Parker was an absolute cancer. There is no way to deny that. Cojo or Mills would of at least got us past the Clippers. No one is saying they would of carried us but they weren't net negatives like Parker whenever he was on the floor. And if they were it's because the Spurs were already down 10 whenever the backup PG came in.

[dabom]

if healthy yes if not NO

I think that what he means by pointing out his age. Parker is never healthy nowadays too. I wouldn't count on him to be healthy.

[Godbama]

I'm actually really confident this is happening now. A lot of talk from people with connections to the Blazer front office. Does that mean we trade to dump Splitter and any other players we need to dump to clear space in a trade for the 14th pick????
Maybe we can get rid of Tony somehow...

[dabom]

I don't understand Parker fans tbh. They're delusional. Stats show that Parker was one of the worst PGs in the NBA last season. Not only that but he hardly every made the players he was on the floor with better. I don't think they realize how bad Parker was late in the season. People have posted the numbers plenty of times and they all show they same thing. Parker was an absolute cancer. There is no way to deny that. Cojo or Mills would of at least got us past the Clippers. No one is saying they would of carried us but they weren't net negatives like Parker whenever he was on the floor. And if they were it's because the Spurs were already down 10 whenever the backup PG came in.

Parker running the offense is dribble dribble 2 man game with duncan. :lmao

O this team never got the lead with the first unit when tony came back. For like 20 games he started it felt like. Fuck those twats that can't comprehend that. :lmao

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Says who?

Last year's CoJo > Last year's frenchie. It shouldn't be held against CoJo that Pop is stupidly loyal to frenchie and refused to bench him even if it was for the betterment of the team.

Let's get this straight as I am only going to say this once.....Joseph and Mills are not starting PG material.

They are good back ups designed to play well against other teams in spot minutes or against second unit. Opposing teams game plan their defense to stop Parker they are not concerned with Joseph or Mills which is why they can have limited success.

Now let's return to this threads topic.

[RD2191]

Let's get this straight as I am only going to say this once.....Joseph and Mills are not starting PG material.

They are good back ups designed to play well against other teams in spot minutes or against second unit. Opposing teams game plan their defense to stop Parker they are not concerned with Joseph or Mills which is why they can have limited success.
You really need to post numbers to backup your claim. There is zero reason to believe Cojo or Mills can't start and win with the Spurs.

[Godbama]

Let's get this straight as I am only going to say this once.....Joseph and Mills are not starting PG material.

They are good back ups designed to play well against other teams in spot minutes or against second unit. Opposing teams game plan their defense to stop Parker they are not concerned with Joseph or Mills which is why they can have limited success.

Now let's return to this threads topic.
I completely agree, but the thing is, Tony Parker at his diminished level this year also hasn't consistently been "starting PG material". I'm not rooting against him or anything, I certainly hope he comes into the next season healthier and fitter. He had a bumpy year.

[RD2191]

Let's get this straight as I am only going to say this once.....Joseph and Mills are not starting PG material.

They are good back ups designed to play well against other teams in spot minutes or against second unit. Opposing teams game plan their defense to stop Parker they are not concerned with Joseph or Mills which is why they can have limited success.

Now let's return to this threads topic.
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[dabom]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpj6grFIe1qcaomb.gif

This nigga thinks teams game plan for tony. :lmao

Tony can't make an open jumper or fast break 2 on 1. :lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

Let's get this straight as I am only going to say this once.....Joseph and Mills are not starting PG material.

They are good back ups designed to play well against other teams in spot minutes or against second unit. Opposing teams game plan their defense to stop Parker they are not concerned with Joseph or Mills which is why they can have limited success.

Now let's return to this threads topic.

Mills is is not a PG... Yet. He needs to work on his passing and ball control but Cory isn't a score first point so what game plan would defenses do? Force the ball out of his hand? Sure that's what he's trying to do. He isn't super fast but he can get to the rim and has a dependable jumper.

The Spurs need to figure out a way to get the ball into Kawhis hands anyway as this will be his team. Same thing if they sign Aldridge he's going to command the ball.

[TheGoldStandard]

This nigga thinks teams game plan for tony. :lmao

Tony can't make an open jumper or fast break 2 on 1. :lmao

The game plan is sag off 5 feet and let him shoot a contested 18 foot shot. He won't dare attack the paint

[bklynspursfan]

A Western Conference executive with knowledge of the Aldridge pursuit has told The Columbian that the free-agent has already informed the Blazers that he will not return to the Northwest.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/6/25/8847329/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agent-portland-trail-blazers-leaving

[szkorhetz]

It's happening.

Just trade Splitter to the Blazers tonight.

[Mugen]

I'm honestly fine with however this turns out:

-Spurs get Aldridge - Championship contender next year
-Lakers get Aldridge - Ceiling is a first round exit and propels them further into mediocrity
-Mavs get Aldridge - Ceiling is a 2nd round exit, most likely first as Dirk/Aldridge is just not good enough defensively

[RD2191]

how would lma even fit with the mavs? can dirk play center?

[BillMc]

how would lma even fit with the mavs? can dirk play center?

Yeah, good point. What are they going to push Dirk to the bench? Or force LMA to play center? Rumor is he hates that.

[RD2191]

Yeah, good point. What are they going to push Dirk to the bench? Or force LMA to play center? Rumor is he hates that.
yup, that's what i heard also.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

You really need to post numbers to backup your claim. There is zero reason to believe Cojo or Mills can't start and win with the Spurs.


Hmmm....well, Pop doesn't start Joseph or Mills so that's a pretty good indicator they can't win with Spurs as a starter.

Knowing you and your fanboy group argument that Pop is loyal to Parker, blah, blah, blah. Well, don't forget that Pop benched Manu in favor of a sixth man role, he also traded George Hill (his favorite player), went to a Duncan-centric offense to motion offense, sat Avery Johnson, benched then shipped Antonio Daniels in favor of 19 year old PG.

I believe that a HOF Coach and one of the most successful coaches that spend hours, weeks and months with his players know a little more about basketball than 18 year old fanboys whose only connection to basketball is posting on a basketball forum.

Now step away from the keyboard and let the grown ups discuss basketball.

[RD2191]

http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/6/25/8847329/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agent-portland-trail-blazers-leaving
according to ripcitytwo erik gunderson has sources so this is more than likely true.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/sources-aldridge-has-told-blazers-he-will-not-return.286175/

[RD2191]

Hmmm....well, Pop doesn't start Joseph or Mills so that's a pretty good indicator they can't win with Spurs as a starter.

Knowing you and your fanboy group argument that Pop is loyal to Parker, blah, blah, blah. Well, don't forget that Pop benched Manu in favor of a sixth man role, he also traded George Hill (his favorite player), went to a Duncan-centric offense to motion offense, sat Avery Johnson, benched then shipped Antonio Daniels in favor of 19 year old PG.

I believe that a HOF Coach and one of the most successful coaches that spend hours, weeks and months with his players know a little more about basketball than 18 year old fanboys whose only connection to basketball is posting on a basketball forum.

Now step away from the keyboard and let the grown ups discuss basketball.
post numbers or stfu. idgaf about your opinion. and pop fucked up big time benching patty. most here would agree.

[dabom]

Pop didnt coach last year. Dude was happy to lose. You think pop wouldn't haVe benched Tony iF it was 2014? Lpl

[SpursFan86]

I'm honestly fine with however this turns out:

-Spurs get Aldridge - Championship contender next year
-Lakers get Aldridge - Ceiling is a first round exit and propels them further into mediocrity
-Mavs get Aldridge - Ceiling is a 2nd round exit, most likely first as Dirk/Aldridge is just not good enough defensively

Houston getting him wouldn't be good...apparently they're trying to move around some guys so they can make room for him.

[NASpurs]

http://www.blazersedge.com/2015/6/25/8847329/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agent-portland-trail-blazers-leaving

Yeah the writing was on the wall yesterday with the Batum thread. Lets get this shit done RC.

[Chillen]

Parker is not getting traded, that would be like the Utah Jazz trading John Stockton. Yes, he has some bad games and didn't show up in the 2015 playoffs vs Clippers, but if he's healthy he fits this team like a glove. So for that reason alone Spurs will not trade him unless it's for Andrew Wiggins and Rubio or some lopsided deal like that.

[z0sa]

We live in the present fool. 2015 happened. He is never going to be healthy again.

You better hope for the Spurs sake, you're wrong.

[NASpurs]

Houston getting him wouldn't be good...apparently they're trying to move around some guys so they can make room for him.

Houston always has to be a pain in the ass. I hope these moves makes them gut their team.

[z0sa]

You kids forget how great Tiago is, especially defensively, when he's healthy. Ah well, this forum's gone down the shithole anyway.

[TheGoldStandard]

Houston always has to be a pain in the ass. I hope these moves makes them gut their team.

They'd have to shop Ariza and some spares to make the cap space available to them.

[sexinthatsx]

I don't understand Parker fans tbh. They're delusional. Stats show that Parker was one of the worst PGs in the NBA last season. Not only that but he hardly ever made the players he was on the floor with better. I don't think they realize how bad Parker was late in the season. People have posted the numbers plenty of times and they all show they same thing. Parker was an absolute cancer. There is no way to deny that. Cojo or Mills would of at least got us past the Clippers. No one is saying they would of carried us but they weren't net negatives like Parker whenever he was on the floor. And if they were it's because the Spurs were already down 10 whenever the backup PG came in.

Those who trash on Parker probably became Spurs fans 2 seasons ago and probably never saw Parker in his prime. I mean it's understandable they can see how bad he is now, but when you're a Spurs fan you can't discount how much Parker has helped the Spurs during his career.

[RD2191]

You kids forget how great Tiago is, especially defensively, when he's healthy. Ah well, this forum's gone down the shithole anyway.
Kids? The younger posters are the ones advocating for Tiago. Lame Parker fans are the ones who are claiming Tiago is overrated and blah blah blah.

[TheGoldStandard]

Those who trash on Parker probably became Spurs fans 2 seasons ago and probably never saw Parker in his prime. I mean it's understandable they can see how bad he is now, but when you're a Spurs fan you can't discount how much Parker has helped the Spurs during his career.

At the end of the day to the organization it should be a business and as fans we should expect the moves necessary to keep the team relevant and reaching the finals again. That's why we buy tickets to see them win.

[RD2191]

Those who trash on Parker probably became Spurs fans 2 seasons ago and probably never saw Parker in his prime. I mean it's understandable they can see how bad he is now, but when you're a Spurs fan you can't discount how much Parker has helped the Spurs during his career.
Sure, but that's like a Laker fan getting shit on because he says Kobe has sucked the past few seasons. Parker has done a lot for this team but it doesn't mean we cant criticize him and want whats best for the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

If this was just reported, ie the Blazers have just been informed, it suggests the Spurs have trades in place to execute tonight.

[RD2191]

By the way pretty epic meltdown going on here.:lol

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/sources-aldridge-has-told-blazers-he-will-not-return.286175/page-3

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Kids? The younger posters are the ones advocating for Tiago. Lame Parker fans are the ones who are claiming Tiago is overrated and blah blah blah.

Still trying to categorize and marginalize I see.

[RD2191]

"Heads up. A bunch of people from spurstalk.com reading the site."

:lmao

[RD2191]

Denny Crene if you're reading this you're a faggot.

[NASpurs]

"Heads up. A bunch of people from spurstalk.com reading the site."

:lmao

Heads up, a bunch of people from sportstwo.com are reading this site :lol

[RD2191]

Heads up, a bunch of people from sportstwo.com are reading this site :lol
:lol

[Ron Swanson]

:lol

[spurraider21]

how would lma even fit with the mavs? can dirk play center?
dirk said he'd take a bench role, tbh

[Mikeanaro]

Sure, but that's like a Laker fan getting shit on because he says Kobe has sucked the past few seasons. Parker has done a lot for this team but it doesn't mean we cant criticize him and want whats best for the Spurs.
Agreed, Im sure he did a lot during practices and off court business (bangin´Erin etc.) but BB wise he has always been trash, best case scenario Porker gets hit by a train in SA, destination Portland.

[RD2191]

dirk said he'd take a bench role, tbh
well fuck me.

[SupremeGuy]

"Heads up. A bunch of people from spurstalk.com reading the site."

:lmao:lol

[Maddog]

To be honest this probably good for the Blazers. Keeping LMA is just going to keep them in the 1st and 2nd round exit range. Too much money tied up in LMA batum etc.
It's time to rebuild, for them and this gives them a good excuse.

[TheGoldStandard]

To be honest this probably good for the Blazers. Keeping LMA is just going to keep them in the 1st and 2nd round exit range. Too much money tied up in LMA batum etc.
It's time to rebuild, for them and this gives them a good excuse.

They should be getting rid of Terry Stotts

[timtonymanu]

:lol tlong
:lol building around Lollard

[spurraider21]

if the spurs actually got aldridge, it would be the biggest free agent signing in franchise history

[RD2191]

:lol tlong
:lol building around Lollard
:lmao

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Last year's team got the six seed and bounced in the first round .
You sure you wanna make this argument dude?

[Sean Cagney]

Depends on who you trade him to

Parker is not getting traded though, some just need to give that up already. I would not be opposed to it if the right deal came along, but Co Jo is not a starter on a team that will go on to win a title.
Says who?

Last year's CoJo > Last year's frenchie. It shouldn't be held against CoJo that Pop is stupidly loyal to frenchie and refused to bench him even if it was for the betterment of the team.
Wow, last years Parker, that is not setting the ceiling that high there. Even so Parker had a good month where he was getting 18 PPG, will Cojo ever even do that? I don't get the hype behind the guy personally, he is a good backup in this league and that is his ceiling IMO. Parker sucked last year though, no doubt I say it all day everyday.

I think Mills should have gotten more minutes in the playoffs and closed out game 7, they might have won. Parker last year blew.

[RD2191]

"Just to give a giant middle finger to the spurs I'm offering Kawhi max, front loaded, biggest fucking signing bonus possible. Eff them. Gonna make sure lamarcus is surrounded by scrubs"

:lmao:lmao

[NASpurs]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Someone do the math as things stand that would allow us to keep Green and sign LA to a reasonable deal. Possibly keeping our 26 pick too.

[RD2191]

tbh I really don't want to lose splitter.

[SpursFan86]

Yeah, assuming we find a taker for Splitter, what else would we need to happen to make room for LMA? What kind of reasonable contracts could Duncan/Manu get? Would Mills have to go as well?

[Sean Cagney]

614171850701176833

614172059002896385

That second part is likely to happen if they can get LMA, infact book it and bet on it. Tiago traded and Green walking, which is what I see happening from reports and the way things are headed.

[TheGoldStandard]

tbh I really don't want to lose splitter.

I think his calf has other plans

[RD2191]

I think his calf has other plans
I understand, Texans love steak.

[RD2191]

Joke by the way.

[DPG21920]

I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.

[BillMc]

614171850701176833

614172059002896385

If Green is willing to wait until after LMA is signed, and any other FAs are signed by the Spurs, can't we give him basically whatever we want? The danger of losing Green is if we're forced to sign him too soon and for too much as I understand it. DG has a small cap hold now, the longer he's willing to wait the better.

[DPG21920]

I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.
Chinook

[TheGoldStandard]

I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.

This is why I wanted to see figures.. Somebody has to be willing to take Tiago or Diaw for almost nothing back. The price for Danny has to be around 10M and I don't see him walking away from that given the strength of the team and the loyalty they show. They would probably sign him to some insane deal we will be pissed at 3 years down the road.

[DPG21920]

ATL, Bucks or CLE (Haywood + their pick for Mills/Tiago)

[Chomper]

I can't believe all this LMA hype. He's a 30 year-old, jump-shooting big man who didn't even show up in the playoffs this year. And last year the Spurs shut him down completely in the playoffs.

The guy doesn't care about winning. He didn't care at Texas, and he never cared in Portland. It wasn't until the Blazers got Damian Lillard that they became relevant.

[SupremeGuy]

Please RC, do the right thing. Trade porker and his franchise sinking contract to anyone dumb enough to take him. Keep everyone else. Add LMA.

[RD2191]

I can't believe all this LMA hype. He's a 30 year-old, jump-shooting big man who didn't even show up in the playoffs this year. And last year the Spurs shut him down completely in the playoffs.

The guy doesn't care about winning. He didn't care at Texas, and he never cared in Portland. It wasn't until the Blazers got Damian Lillard that they became relevant.
Been saying the same thing for weeks now.

[DPG21920]

This is why I wanted to see figures.. Somebody has to be willing to take Tiago or Diaw for almost nothing back. The price for Danny has to be around 10M and I don't see him walking away from that given the strength of the team and the loyalty they show. They would probably sign him to some insane deal we will be pissed at 3 years down the road.


From Chinook's Thread

2015 free agency:

Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer:

Guaranteed Salaries:
Tony Parker: $13,437,500
Tiago Splitter: $8,500,000
Boris Diaw: $7,000,000
Patty Mills: $3,578,947
Kyle Anderson: $1,142,879

Total guaranteed: $33,659,326

Qualifying offers:
Aron Baynes: $2,596,250

Relevant cap holds:
Tim Duncan: $15,542,169
Manu Ginobili: $10,500,000
Danny Green: $7,647,500
Kawhi Leonard: $7,235,148
Cory Joseph: $5,058,153
Marco Belinelli: $3,735,875
Jeff Ayres: $2,377,375
Matt Bonner: $947,276
Austin Daye: $947,276
Livio Jean-Charles: $957,200
2015 draft pick: ???

Projected 2015-2016 salary cap: $66.5 Million
Projected 2015-2016 luxury tax threshold: $80.1 Million

To determine the Spurs' functional cap space, I'll just take the guaranteed salary and add to it Green and Leonard's holds along with the holds for LJC and the first-rounder (which I'm assuming will be the 25th pick and have a hold of $1,025,700). This gives a total of $50,524,874 committed to nine players. That means one needs to add in three roster charges (cap space can't be used until there is a total of 12 salaries or holds against the team's salary). of $525,093 each. That gives the Spurs a total of $52,100,153 against the cap for the purpose of free agency. There are ways around the roster charges, but we can talk about that later.

With that in mind, the Spurs will have $14,399,847 in cap room under this scenario. That's really not enough to do a whole lot with. Lucky for them, the 2015 cap may be significantly higher than the current projections -- up over $70 Million. That would give them enough space to offer a near-max salary, but there aren't many scenarios where the team will be able to eek out max space without letting go of someone they would probably want to keep, especially since the team is likely to want to bring back another player or two like Baynes or Beli. Someone will have to take less, or else the idea of getting a premiere free agent seems like a pipe dream.

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If you replace Tiagos 8.5M with the 6M reported from Tim & remove Mills 3.5M you go from 14M in cap space in the above scenario to the 18M you need for LMA. Then you sign Green.

[Juan]

If the Spurs and Blazers were to discuss a S&T does this result in Aldridge being able to sign for more $ and an extra year? Or can he only get the same contract as a FA as he can get in a possible S&T?

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs and Blazers were to discuss a S&T does this result in Aldridge being able to sign for more $ and an extra year? Or can he only get the same contract as a FA as he can get in a possible S&T?

He can get the same amount of years but slightly more money in a S&T than FA.

[Chinook]

Chinook

That's what he's saying. Nothing exciting or new.

[TheGoldStandard]

From Chinook's Thread

2015 free agency:

Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer:


Guaranteed Salaries:
Tony Parker: $13,437,500
Tiago Splitter: $8,500,000
Boris Diaw: $7,000,000
Patty Mills: $3,578,947
Kyle Anderson: $1,142,879

Total guaranteed: $33,659,326

Qualifying offers:
Aron Baynes: $2,596,250

Relevant cap holds:
Tim Duncan: $15,542,169
Manu Ginobili: $10,500,000
Danny Green: $7,647,500
Kawhi Leonard: $7,235,148
Cory Joseph: $5,058,153
Marco Belinelli: $3,735,875
Jeff Ayres: $2,377,375
Matt Bonner: $947,276
Austin Daye: $947,276
Livio Jean-Charles: $957,200
2015 draft pick: ???

Projected 2015-2016 salary cap: $66.5 Million
Projected 2015-2016 luxury tax threshold: $80.1 Million

To determine the Spurs' functional cap space, I'll just take the guaranteed salary and add to it Green and Leonard's holds along with the holds for LJC and the first-rounder (which I'm assuming will be the 25th pick and have a hold of $1,025,700). This gives a total of $50,524,874 committed to nine players. That means one needs to add in three roster charges (cap space can't be used until there is a total of 12 salaries or holds against the team's salary). of $525,093 each. That gives the Spurs a total of $52,100,153 against the cap for the purpose of free agency. There are ways around the roster charges, but we can talk about that later.

With that in mind, the Spurs will have $14,399,847 in cap room under this scenario. That's really not enough to do a whole lot with. Lucky for them, the 2015 cap may be significantly higher than the current projections -- up over $70 Million. That would give them enough space to offer a near-max salary, but there aren't many scenarios where the team will be able to eek out max space without letting go of someone they would probably want to keep, especially since the team is likely to want to bring back another player or two like Baynes or Beli. Someone will have to take less, or else the idea of getting a premiere free agent seems like a pipe dream.

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If you replace Tiagos 8.5M with the 6M reported from Tim & remove Mills 3.5M you go from 14M in cap space in the above scenario to the 18M you need for LMA. Then you sign Green.


They offer Green 10M and you essentially stay under the luxury tax and can dip into it to bring back your players and your picks. But would they do this?

[Juan]

He can get the same amount of years but slightly more money in a S&T than FA.

Do you happen to know where I can find these figures?

[DPG21920]

That's what he's saying. Nothing exciting or new.

He seems to be dismissing the entire notion though. He's making it seem like moving Tiago won't be enough & they will need Green's 7M cap hold gone too

[TheGoldStandard]

Been saying the same thing for weeks now.


The Portland offense was a cesspool of ISO ball with poor management of minutes. He's clearly not a #1 option but given the ball movement that can be generated by the Spurs he's a huge upgrade.

[Chinook]

He seems to be dismissing the entire notion though. He's making it seem like moving Tiago won't be enough & they will need Green's 7M cap hold gone too

Well Manu coming back may well end up meaning no more Green unless Ginobili gets the room exception. Manu's next contract may end up being as damaging as Parker's is now.

[TheGoldStandard]

Well Manu coming back may well end up meaning no more Green unless Ginobili gets the room exception. Manu's next contract may end up being as damaging as Parker's is now.

Bye manu

[RD2191]

Bye manu

[NASpurs]

Well Manu coming back may well end up meaning no more Green unless Ginobili gets the room exception. Manu's next contract may end up being as damaging as Parker's is now.

I just threw up. I love Manu but it's time to hang it up.

[NASpurs]

Can you imagine the shitstorm here if Manu decides to return and costs the Spurs Danny Green?

[RD2191]

So Splitter has to move and Green walk for us to sign LMA? Fuck that. I'm telling you guys LMA isn't worth it. Dude is a choker and mentally soft.

[dabom]

I wouldn't mind manu at the vet min.

[Cloud786]

Someone do the math as things stand that would allow us to keep Green and sign LA to a reasonable deal. Possibly keeping our 26 pick too.


Spurs guaranteed salaries sit at 34 million currently + 57 million in cap holds = 91 million. 91 million is our current cap number.

Renounce everyone but Green and Kawhi, and you're left with 34 million (guaranteed salaries) + 15 million (cap holds for Green and Kawhi) = 49 million.

There are cap holds for empty rosters spots for minimum salary players at 0.5 million each (times 5 roster spots) + 1 million for 1st round pick. That leaves the total cap number at 52.5 million for 13 roster spots.

Trade Splitter's 8.5 million deal for chips, and that number drops to 44 million.

Since the cap is at 67 million, that leaves 23 million left to pay Aldridge, Duncan, & Ginobili. If Aldridge can take a backloaded deal starting at 18 million or so, that leaves enough to maybe pay Duncan & Ginobili more than minimum deals.

Then we can use Green's and Kawhi's bird rights and sign them for whatever. Fill out the roster with draft picks and minimum players.

[TheGoldStandard]

Can you imagine the shitstorm here if Manu decides to return and costs the Spurs Danny Green?

1 mediocre year to say farewell for possibly 3 solid seasons with a 3&D in his prime

[RD2191]

Can you imagine the shitstorm here if Manu decides to return and costs the Spurs Danny Green?
you mother fucker. i just coughed soda all over my new monitor.

[Ron Swanson]

Can you imagine the shitstorm here if Manu decides to return and costs the Spurs Danny Green?

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[TheGoldStandard]

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and then he hurts himself

[Mugen]

:lol Yeah Manu is def the forgotten wild card here. We all thought he'd take less than what he ended up getting on his last contract. If he ends up costing the Spurs Green or LMA then he needs the Porky treatment next season no doubt.....

I don't think he'll take anything close to the min. here, det nigga ElNono is ruthless tbh.....

[BatManu20]

I can't believe all this LMA hype. He's a 30 year-old, jump-shooting big man who didn't even show up in the playoffs this year. And last year the Spurs shut him down completely in the playoffs.

The guy doesn't care about winning. He didn't care at Texas, and he never cared in Portland. It wasn't until the Blazers got Damian Lillard that they became relevant.

He's not as great as some Spurfan are making him out to be, but he's also not as bad you're making him out to be, either. Realistically, he's somewhere in the middle. Athletic big men who average 23 & 10 on 50% shooting don't grow on trees. If you have an opportunity to get one, particularly when you're in the position the Spurs are in with their best player set to retire in a year who happens to play the same position, you try really hard to do so.

The excitement on this board also has a lot to do with the fact that a "big name Free Agent" appears to be interested in the Spurs, and it appears it isn't just a rumor this time. This rarely happens to the Spurs. The last two times it did, Jason Kidd and Jermaine O'Neal ended up going elsewhere, so it really hasn't happened to this franchise in a very long time, if ever. Add in the natural excitement because it's the offseason + Draft Day, and people will get a little carried away. It's natural, and you really can't blame Spurfan, tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

:lol Yeah Manu is def the forgotten wild card here. We all thought he'd take less than what he ended up getting on his last contract. If he ends up costing the Spurs Green or LMA then he needs the Porky treatment next season no doubt.....

I don't think he'll take anything close to the min. here, det nigga ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) is ruthless tbh.....

What a way to go out on your last season as a Spur to fuck them over royally from improving down the line.

[BatManu20]

I just threw up. I love Manu but it's time to hang it up.

[Ron Swanson]

and then he hurts himself

That's a given, but yeah, it would definitely make the situation worse.

[RD2191]

:lol Yeah Manu is def the forgotten wild card here. We all thought he'd take less than what he ended up getting on his last contract. If he ends up costing the Spurs Green or LMA then he needs the Porky treatment next season no doubt.....

I don't think he'll take anything close to the min. here, det nigga ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) is ruthless tbh.....
fucking nono better work his mexican magic and convince manu to sign for the min

[spurraider21]

room exception would net manu 2.8 mil for this following season. he made 7 and 7.5 the last 2 seasons

[Mugen]

2.8mil to play 20mins a night for 60-65 games while having a bunch of overweight fellow countrymen yelling your name sounds like a sweet deal tbh.

[BatManu20]

No way Manu is signing for the minimum at 37 years old imo. To put his body through the rigor of another season, he's going to want to get paid a lot of money to do so, unfortunately.

[NASpurs]

2.8mil to play 20mins a night for 60-65 games while having a bunch of overweight fellow countrymen yelling your name sounds like a sweet deal tbh.

Can't forget the 4 turnovers per game all in the 4th quarter.