International Prospect: Nikola Milutinov

[Chinook]

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Height:7-0/2.13m
Weight: 245lbs/111kgs
Date of Birth: 12/30/1994
Prior to NBA: Partizan
Years Pro: R

DX Profile (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nikola-Milutinov-7116/)

Buford left open the possibility of Nikola moving over to the Spurs this season. If that doesn't happen, I'll update the title.

Have at it.

[Axegrinder]

I aint mad. And I fully expect him in 2 or 3 yrs. For 20 hes done well in Partizan. Hope he does great on national team this summer.

[FlAVaK]

Definitely needs to put on some weight:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YdoC48Pvg

[TheGoldStandard]

Will be apart of the "Why can't we rebound" "why do we get bullied in the paint" questions when he ultimately comes over and gets rocked by athletic bigs not found internationally

[jyra]

I doubt that he makes the final roster for Serbia's Eurobasket team with Marjanovic and Raduljica already occupying the center spots. Still it should be interesting to watch him along with Dangubic in some of their preparation games.

[Axegrinder]

heard hes already added 25 # in last few mos (since some of his highlight reels circulating now)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[Uriel]

How appropriate is it that RC would draft a player the Think Tank didn't even have a thread on? :lol

[Thomas82]

They should put him on the summer league roster to see what he can do against Americans.

[Drom John]

How appropriate is it that RC would draft a player the Think Tank didn't even have a thread on? :lol

Very appropriate.
As one who created many of the think tank threads, I was looking for those mentioned at #26 and #55. I thought Milutinov was a reach at #26 and gone by #55.
It is also appropriate that there was no thread for Lalanne.

[Rito3d30]

didn't know he has added some weight on him already
maybe another 10 - 15 lbs would be perfect?

[jesterbobman]

In the same Boat as many others here - Didn't think of him as an option at 26, thought he'd be gone at 55, so didn't bother looking properly.

Looking at the DX videos, it's pretty easy to see a role in a Spurs system, on both sides of the ball - Make easy shots off passes/ and off the pick and roll, good offensive rebounder, sets NBA screens (Moving) and a 5th option jump shot - Needs to get better, though signs are there.

Defensively, Hedges well on P&R and some mobility to help contain, uses verticality without blocking shots.

Even his weaknesses are things the Spurs don't care about - a poor post game, (With Kawhi (and maybe LMA), hes's not exactly the #1 post option).

I get the role player potential.

[BackHome]

If we sign LA we need some guys with cheap contracts. I think CoJo is gone and Bell..and probably Baynes. So I could see us actually bringing this guy in cause Duncan minutes are going to have to go down. The question i have is who do you think is a better player him or Caddy or W. Tavares?

[stnick2261]

I'd love to see him join the team and learn from LMA, Duncan, Diaw, possibly West... but I believe we need him to stay overseas just this year so we don't have his first round cap hold

[Chinook]

I'd love to see him join the team and learn from LMA, Duncan, Diaw, possibly West... but I believe we need him to stay overseas just this year so we don't have his first round cap hold

It's actually not the easiest thing in the world to get that hold taken off. The Spurs usually don't have to worry about it, as they'll been over the cap for a dozen years. But you have to fax in a signed letter from the stashed player promising that they won't come over during that season. So if the Spurs are in desperate need for that $400k, they're going to have to move fast to get that paperwork sent in, and they're going to need Nikola's cooperation.

[Drom John]

Last year Clint Cappela wouldn't let the Rockets off the cap hold when the Rockets were pursuing Bosh.

[SpursSerb]

I don't think that would be a problem with Milutinov He is seriously hung up on Spurs and he will not do anything against them.

[8FOR!3]

Any chance he could be our backup center this season?

[xellos88330]

Any chance he could be our backup center this season?

RC Said he will stay in Europe in the interview.

[DPG21920]

It's actually not the easiest thing in the world to get that hold taken off. The Spurs usually don't have to worry about it, as they'll been over the cap for a dozen years. But you have to fax in a signed letter from the stashed player promising that they won't come over during that season. So if the Spurs are in desperate need for that $400k, they're going to have to move fast to get that paperwork sent in, and they're going to need Nikola's cooperation.

Well, he is in SA so I would imagine they could talk about it.

[xellos88330]

So the Spurs could still sign him and bring him over? I thought he was under contract with his current team.

[Chinook]

Thread title updated. :(

[will_spurs]

For future reference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gx1pD3bHrk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XV7klpUpxU

[ace3g]

Enea Trapani @ETSportando
(https://twitter.com/ETSportando)Panathinaikos scheduled a meeting to close the deal with Nikola Milutinov, source told Sportando.

[xellos88330]

Enea Trapani @ETSportando
(https://twitter.com/ETSportando)Panathinaikos scheduled a meeting to close the deal with Nikola Milutinov, source told Sportando.


Somewhere KBP is fapping vigorously.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This would be a great move for him. They currently don't have a starting caliber center, so hopefully he'd get a lot of burn and develop. Also he'll play with James Gist!

[Mamuza94]

Actually, they brought Raduljica yesterday. So, if he come in Pao, will be a 2nd option at center. Anyway, he'll have good minutes there and what to learn from Djordjevic (who is also a coach of Serbian NT).

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Actually, they brought Raduljica yesterday. So, if he come in Pao, will be a 2nd option at center. Anyway, he'll have good minutes there and what to learn from Djordjevic (who is also a coach of Serbian NT).

Didn't know about Raduljica, thanks for the info. Was hoping they'd be bringing MIlutinov and giving him the starting spot. Oh well. Perhaps he's not ready yet.

[Mamuza94]

Today in Serbian press appeared information that Efes is interested in Nikola. If he goes there, he'll work with probably 2nd best coach in Europe (Dusan Ivkovic). Efes have start center, veteran, Nenad Krstic (also played for Celtics, Thunder, Nets) who lately has a lot of problems with injuries. So in Efes too, he'd have good minutes.

[Mamuza94]

According to eurohoops.net, Nikola Milutinov is near to sign a 3-year deal with Olympiacos Pireus (Greece).

Great team Oly with very good caoch Giannis Sfairopoulos. And wherever Nikola goes, for sure that will be one of top Euro teams.

[ace3g]

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OFFICIAL: Olympiacos signs Nikola Milutinov to a three-year deal http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/greece/170450/olympiacos-signs-nikola-milutinov-to-a-three-year-contract.html … (http://t.co/vERrkhbZfS)
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(https://twitter.com/sportando/status/624942504706768896/photo/1)

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Strange move. Are they getting rid of Hunter? Hopefully Milutinov doesn't find himself as the 3rd choice.

[Mamuza94]

http://www.eurohoops.net/2015/09/featured/130075

[BackHome]

Any news on this guy?

[Mamuza94]

He had some injury (nothing so serious), and didn't start season. Don't know if is he ready now. If he isn't, will be soon, for sure.

[CGD]

Is he playing, or still injured?

[Mamuza94]

I think that he recently started.

[Drom John]

Current stats (http://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003941&seasoncode=E2015)

[BackHome]

Watched one of the above Vids above it seems they like to run the pick and roll with him so at least that is a good thing.

[Uriel]

With Milutinov waiting in the wings, one has to wonder whether Boban figures in the Spurs' long-term plans.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

With Milutinov waiting in the wings, one has to wonder whether Boban figures in the Spurs' long-term plans.
I don't see why they both couldn't be a part of the team's future. By the time Nikola is ready to contribute, Tim will probably be gone. There are no other bigs the team has invested in, except maybe Cady.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Also, why does he barely play in Olympiacos? Don't really know much about the team or the current state of the Euroleague.

[BackHome]

Does this guy have any chance of coming over if Tim hangs it up?

[spurraider21]

Does this guy have any chance of coming over if Tim hangs it up?
he'll come over if/when he's good enough, not necessarily hinging on whether or not duncan is around. he has a ways to go, but he's still 21

[J_Paco]

So, is he a long term project that won't come over for more than a few years (Splitter - realizing that Tiago stayed overseas more so for money concerns than development) or can we expect him to be here in a year or two? I like that his game is reminiscent to Tiago and if Timmy retires that is an element we will sorely need, IMHO.

[CGD]

From what I've seen I like the way he moves in spaces, sets picks, pulls defenders on offense, solid mobility on D, etc. In that way I think the Splitter comparison is fair.

If Tim hangs them up I don't see why he doesn't come. With West, LMA, and Boris it's not like the Spurs are hurting for interior offensive production in the immediate term.

[raybies]

Yeah I watched him play today on ESPN 3. He's definitely mobile. Plays physical. Good finisher around the rim. He's a role player. Blue collar guy that does the little things. He hustles and plays with high energy. Good rebounder and relentless on the boards. Just watching him do what he does there, I don't see why he can't do the same thing here. I mean he's never gonna be a star player but he has starting potential as a role player. He's a willing screener, actively picking and rolling multiple times if need be. Could be a great fourth big as well. He looks like a keeper. Does a lot of fundamental things and doesn't really rely on physical attributes. Works for what he gets.

[Uriel]

Yeah I watched him play today on ESPN 3. He's definitely mobile. Plays physical. Good finisher around the rim. He's a role player. Blue collar guy that does the little things. He hustles and plays with high energy. Good rebounder and relentless on the boards. Just watching him do what he does there, I don't see why he can't do the same thing here. I mean he's never gonna be a star player but he has starting potential as a role player. He's a willing screener, actively picking and rolling multiple times if need be. Could be a great fourth big as well. He looks like a keeper. Does a lot of fundamental things and doesn't really rely on physical attributes. Works for what he gets.
:pop: "Sounds like a Splitter clone"

[maverick1948]

:pop: "Sounds like a Splitter clone"

Tons younger than Splitter.

[CGD]

He seems to fit the bill in the post TD era. We already have to post dominant players in LMA and Loenard so really what we need at C is a guy that does the dirty work and is smart in doing so (e.g., oberto, splitter)

[J_Paco]

He seems to fit the bill in the post TD era. We already have to post dominant players in LMA and Loenard so really what we need at C is a guy that does the dirty work and is smart in doing so (e.g., oberto, splitter)

With Boban around that should help ease Nikola's transition to the US/NBA, but more so in the sense that Pop can give him the "1 year Tiago treatment



." Letting him learn on the bench and in the D - League.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Started against CSKA but only played 4 minutes due to foul trouble and generally being terrible. Not that incredible for a young big to have games like this, but he looks at least 2 years away.

[CGD]

Sounds about right

[kobyz]

One win away from a title...

[CGD]

Boban insurance this year, otherwise I think they let him cook one more year.

[kobyz]

Got the Greece tiltle with Olympiacos but still a garbage player, got outplayed by 18 yo...

[objective]

If you mean Papagiannis they were pretty close in the last game I saw, Papagiannis scored on Milutinov twice and Milutinov scored on him once.

I've thought about making a draft prospect thread on Papagiannis, he's very similar to Milutinov, but a little bigger and seemingly more explosive.

[CGD]

Is this guy coming to summer league?

[Mamuza94]

Yes. Idiot refused to play for Serbia in Olympic because of Summer League.

[jyra]

It's not like he would have seen any meaningful minutes anyway with Jokic, Raduljica and Stimac around.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yes. Idiot refused to play for Serbia in Olympic because of Summer League.

He's probably told there's a legit chance he's brought over. Unlikely but you never know. He wouldn't play much for the national team anyway, so his decision seems logical.

[CGD]

Don't the Spurs kind of need to bring him over if Tim retires? I'm assuming at this point that were operating w/o cap space, and:

1. The MLE will have to be split among some combo of Pau/West/Boban, which complicates getting more than one of those guys.

2. Bertans will take the LLE

Aside from minimum deals the only other way to fill the need is with the Rookie exception.

[Mamuza94]

It's not like he would have seen any meaningful minutes anyway with Jokic, Raduljica and Stimac around.

He's probably told there's a legit chance he's brought over. Unlikely but you never know. He wouldn't play much for the national team anyway, so his decision seems logical.

Look guys, he got call from Djordjevic (NT head coach) for Olympic qualifying tournament. Stimac didn't. Stimac is the worst center of Serbian NT ever but he is so passionate and dedicated guy, always gives his best for NT, so Dordjevic called him after Nikola refused. Anyway, Milutonov had a good chances to go in Rio and he screw up them.
U can't talk about minutes in Olympic. How the fuck minutes are relevant when ur playin for Serbia in Rio?

[buujness]

Look guys, he got call from Djordjevic (NT head coach) for Olympic qualifying tournament. Stimac didn't. Stimac is the worst center of Serbian NT ever but he is so passionate and dedicated guy, always gives his best for NT, so Dordjevic called him after Nikola refused. Anyway, Milutonov had a good chances to go in Rio and he screw up them.
U can't talk about minutes in Olympic. How the fuck minutes are relevant when ur playin for Serbia in Rio?
I get the passion for your home country, but I'm not gonna throw anyone under the bus for not wanting to go to Rio de Janeiro right now. The south side of Chicago is a safer place right now than Rio.

[Mamuza94]

I get the passion for your home country, but I'm not gonna throw anyone under the bus for not wanting to go to Rio de Janeiro right now. The south side of Chicago is a safer place right now than Rio.

That is not the reason, trust me. No one gives a fuck about Zika here, i'm pretty sure. And he said that he will not play because he want to participate in Summer League. If Zika is a truly reason, that's a totaly different story. But in that case of scenario, he should tell that Zika is reason why he don't want to go to Rio, no to lie.

[Chinook]

That is not the reason, trust me. No one gives a fuck about Zika here, i'm pretty sure. And he said that he will not play because he want to participate in Summer League. If Zika is a truly reason, that's a totaly different story. But in that case of scenario, he should tell that Zika is reason why he don't want to go to Rio, no to lie.

Nah. It's a diplomatic incident to say Zika. That's why none of the American players have actually used that justification. But anyway, the summer league is much better for his career than the Olympics. He can do the next one.

[palangi]

Nah. It's a diplomatic incident to say Zika. That's why none of the American players have actually used that justification. But anyway, the summer league is much better for his career than the Olympics. He can do the next one.
Yet he isn't even on the summer league roster?

[Drom John]

Yet he isn't even on the summer league roster?

Milutinov is not on the Utah Summer League roster, a three game round robin.

I have not seen the more significant Las Vegas roster.

[objective]

A couple of rumors on Twitter the last week or so about Milutinov possibly joining Cvrena Zvezda. Former team of Boban and present team of Dangubic. I presume that Dangubic is still with them

[Mamuza94]

He will probably die if really decide to join Red Star (Crvena Zvezda).

[MR-Clutch]

im guessing this dude isnt coming?

[loveforthegame]

Nope. The Spurs notified the league he'd be playing overseas for this year.

[jyra]

Just wanted to do a quick stats overview for his last couple of seasons. I know that the sample size of games isn't too big for this season but you can definitely see some trends.



Team
Season
GP
MIN
FG%
FT%
REB/36
OREB%
DREB%
BLK/36
TO/36
PF/36
PTS/36

















Partizan
14-15
57
26
54.9
59.9
10.5
17.7
17.9
1.4
2.1
3.5
13.5


Olympiacos
15-16
52
11.2
56.7
66.1
9.4
16
16.8
2.3
1.7
7.2
11.9


Olympiacos
16-17
12
10.8
43.3
69.2
9.7
18.1
14.4
1.4
2.5
7.2
9.7



Source: http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Nikola-Milutinov/Summary/27707

The numbers are the combined stats from Euroleague and domestic league play.


The biggest worry is obviously his fouling. Even Dedmon who is a foul machine "only" averages 6.8 PF per 36. His shooting has also fallen off dramatically but that's mostly because of his dismal domestic league play where he shoots 27.3%, in the Euroleague he shoots 52.6%. That should probably normalize in time. The defensive rebounding is another big concern, for comparison Manu has a DREB% of 14.2%. Lastly his blocks are also down and turnovers are up.

I hope that this is just a big slump for him and that he recovers. But right now it certainly doesn't suggest that he is ready for the NBA next season when the Spurs might need him to replace Dedmon.

[sasaint]

Just wanted to do a quick stats overview for his last couple of seasons. I know that the sample size of games isn't too big for this season but you can definitely see some trends.



Team
Season
GP
MIN
FG%
FT%
REB/36
OREB%
DREB%
BLK/36
TO/36
PF/36
PTS/36

















Partizan
14-15
57
26
54.9
59.9
10.5
17.7
17.9
1.4
2.1
3.5
13.5


Olympiacos
15-16
52
11.2
56.7
66.1
9.4
16
16.8
2.3
1.7
7.2
11.9


Olympiacos
16-17
12
10.8
43.3
69.2
9.7
18.1
14.4
1.4
2.5
7.2
9.7



Source: http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Nikola-Milutinov/Summary/27707

The numbers are the combined stats from Euroleague and domestic league play.


The biggest worry is obviously his fouling. Even Dedmon who is a foul machine "only" averages 6.8 PF per 36. His shooting has also fallen off dramatically but that's mostly because of his dismal domestic league play where he shoots 27.3%, in the Euroleague he shoots 52.6%. That should probably normalize in time. The defensive rebounding is another big concern, for comparison Manu has a DREB% of 14.2%. Lastly his blocks are also down and turnovers are up.

I hope that this is just a big slump for him and that he recovers. But right now it certainly doesn't suggest that he is ready for the NBA next season when the Spurs might need him to replace Dedmon.

I have never watched this guy play - maybe a clip or two posted on ST. What I know about him is what I read here. But, it seems unbelievable that anybody could expect a guy who can only command 10-11 mins/game playing for Olympiacos to have any impact in the NBA.

[SAGirl]

I have never watched this guy play - maybe a clip or two posted on ST. What I know about him is what I read here. But, it seems unbelievable that anybody could expect a guy who can only command 10-11 mins/game playing for Olympiacos to have any impact in the NBA.
Agreed. He looks underwhelming and not ready. Spurs brought him in for summer league and then encouraged him to return to Europe. They must have seen he's clearly not ready. I am distinction in the LJC wait/see in a couple of seasons.

What I don't like is that the same as Livio, he's not playing much in a foreign league, which is not a good sign at all...

[Chinook]

Agreed. He looks underwhelming and not ready. Spurs brought him in for summer league and then encouraged him to return to Europe. They must have seen he's clearly not ready. I am distinction in the LJC wait/see in a couple of seasons.

What I don't like is that the same as Livio, he's not playing much in a foreign league, which is not a good sign at all...

Olympiacos and ASVEL are in two different leagues (literally, but more importantly, figuratively). Milutinov not playing is not a huge deal on a team that has a legit roster. ASVEL is like the d-league compared to Olympiacos. Nikola would probably start for that team. He's not ready, but he should be brought over soon anyway. He's not as far away as he may seem, and time in Austin would show that.

[SAGirl]

Olympiacos and ASVEL are in two different leagues (literally, but more importantly, figuratively). Milutinov not playing is not a huge deal on a team that has a legit roster. ASVEL is like the d-league compared to Olympiacos. Nikola would probably start for that team. He's not ready, but he should be brought over soon anyway. He's not as far away as he may seem, and time in Austin would show that.
I just dislike young prospects not playing much. No matter if the level of difficulty is tougher if he's barely playing he's not getting that many chances to learn.

It doesn't help slowmo that he's in the NBA if he's not playing either. Not to turn this into a slowmo thread but young guys have to play to get better.

I know you meant it in the sense that his not playing doesn't mean he's not a good prospect (Livio not playing in a worse league than these 3 in comparison was a probable red alert alarm sign... Milutinov might have a yellow alarm sign.) But it's no matter: I am of the opinion young guys need to play to improve. I am not encouraged by this development with Milutinov. Might not matter yet, but at this rate he might not be that different next season either... I hope to be wrong of course.

[Chinook]

I just dislike young prospects not playing much. No matter if the level of difficulty is tougher if he's barely playing he's not getting that many chances to learn.

It doesn't help slowmo that he's in the NBA if he's not playing either. Not to turn this into a slowmo thread but young guys have to play to get better.

I know you meant it in the sense that his not playing doesn't mean he's not a good prospect (Livio not playing in a worse league than these 3 in comparison was a probable red alert alarm sign... Milutinov might have a yellow alarm sign.) But it's no matter: I am of the opinion young guys need to play to improve. I am not encouraged by this development with Milutinov. Might not matter yet, but at this rate he might not be that different next season either... I hope to be wrong of course.

Here's the thing: For us as fans and maybe for PATFO, what Nikola is doing is training. For him, it's a job. Olympiacos offered to pay him the most money, so that's why he's there. The Spurs didn't assign him to a place where he wouldn't get minutes. He played a lot for Partizan, but they couldn't pay him (literally -- he had to file a grievance over the issue just like Bertans did). The Greek team was going to let him out of his deal to sign with a team in Serbia, but that didn't work out.

The solution would be to bring him over and let him play in Austin while being paid the most as a Spurs prospect. And I'd rather have him on the team than Forbes right now. But once he wasn't going to be a Spur for this season, it was all Milutinov's choice to do what's best for him and his future, and current finances are a big part of that.

[SAGirl]

Here's the thing: For us as fans and maybe for PATFO, what Nikola is doing is training. For him, it's a job. Olympiacos offered to pay him the most money, so that's why he's there. The Spurs didn't assign him to a place where he wouldn't get minutes. He played a lot for Partizan, but they couldn't pay him (literally -- he had to file a grievance over the issue just like Bertans did). The Greek team was going to let him out of his deal to sign with a team in Serbia, but that didn't work out.

The solution would be to bring him over and let him play in Austin while being paid the most as a Spurs prospect. And I'd rather have him on the team than Forbes right now. But once he wasn't going to be a Spur for this season, it was all Milutinov's choice to do what's best for him and his future, and current finances are a big part of that.
Good point .... He's getting paid to play or ride the bench in a good team, it's a livelihood and the team can't carry that many rookies and unproven players all at once. They had to cut Livio for example and I don't think they really wanted to. It was a last day of training camp decision. I hope Forbes pans out for Patfo's sake.

Just my hype for Milutinov has gone down a tad. They may just bring him next season. He can pressure at some point too same as Livio...

[Chinook]

Good point .... He's getting paid to play or ride the bench in a good team, it's a livelihood and the team can't carry that many rookies and unproven players all at once. They had to cut Livio for example and I don't think they really wanted to. It was a last day of training camp decision. I hope Forbes pans out for Patfo's sake.

Just my hype for Milutinov has gone down a tad. They may just bring him next season. He can pressure at some point too same as Livio...

I'm mostly hoping he can at least play in the summer league this time around. I don't think anyone on the roster except Murray and maybe Forbes will be there. Would be nice to give DeJounte a PnR partner to practice with.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

While he's not playing much the comparisons with LJC's development are way off the mark.

First of all, as already mentioned, Olympiakos is a much better team than Asvel, he has good players in front of him and they're by no means interested in developing him at the cost of games. He's also not had the injury history that LJC had and unlike him he has a legit NBA body and position. His upside, though, seems quite limited. A Baynes type at best ( which isn't really a bad thing for a late 1st round pick ).

[sasaint]

While he's not playing much the comparisons with LJC's development are way off the mark.

First of all, as already mentioned, Olympiakos is a much better team than Asvel, he has good players in front of him and they're by no means interested in developing him at the cost of games. He's also not had the injury history that LJC had and unlike him he has a legit NBA body and position. His upside, though, seems quite limited. A Baynes type at best ( which isn't really a bad thing for a late 1st round pick ).

Baynes-type - really? Milutinov looks like a twig compared to Baynes. I didn't think he was a banger-type at all. Baynes-type would be good.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Started and had his first good game in the euroleague this season with 11 and 7 on 4-for-6 shooting in a win against Dangubic's team. Dangubic had 4 points. Hopefully a good sign. Also didn't foul as much as usual, which allowed him to play 22 minutes.

[CGD]

Any more on this guy? I fear Dedmon might peace out, and we'll be searching of a big to fill the void. No idea how this guys development is going.

[Chinook]

Any more on this guy? I fear Dedmon might peace out, and we'll be searching of a big to fill the void. No idea how this guys development is going.

His stats are horrible: 9/9 per 40 on 30 percent FG% Decent shot-blocker by that's it.

[SAGirl]

His stats are horrible: 9/9 per 40 on 30 percent FG% Decent shot-blocker by that's it.
Thanks for the update... Spurs foreign scouting outside of Davis Bertans (and that was 5 years ago) has been bad, which in reality is like a wasted pick if we think about it, specially first rounders. Hmmm he's on some Livio looking path at this rate unfortunately...

[CGD]

Well that blows. Hopefully he does the little things well though, like set picks, roll to the basket, board and play position D. A poor mans tiago would be nice.

Can't put all the foreign drafting woes on the Spurs staff though; more and more teams are scouting and drafting a finite pool of players (and do so at better draft positions). I think seeing that, the Spurs have moved on to the next developmental pipeline, which is the Dleague.

[Maddog]

Well that blows. Hopefully he does the little things well though, like set picks, roll to the basket, board and play position D. A poor mans tiago would be nice.

Can't put all the foreign drafting woes on the Spurs staff though; more and more teams are scouting and drafting a finite pool of players (and do so at better draft positions). I think seeing that, the Spurs have moved on to the next developmental pipeline, which is the Dleague.

I think it's this, plus factoring in thet did not wish to take on any salary, albeit even a late 1st rounder so took a flyer. Bet they tried to unload the pick.

[spurraider21]

wasn't an inspiring pick at the time, and hasn't done anything to change that

[Chinook]

wasn't an inspiring pick at the time, and hasn't done anything to change that

I went ballistic when he was picked. There haven't been a ton of great players to take over him, but any of Harrell, Nance and Holmes would have been improvements.

[jyra]

He had a pretty decent game today against Unics Kazan in the Euroleague.










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[CGD]

I get the feeling he's gonna be a Spurs next year if Dedmon walks.

[CGD]

I went ballistic when he was picked. There haven't been a ton of great players to take over him, but any of Harrell, Nance and Holmes would have been improvements.

Weren't they trying to maintain optimal flexibility for LMA that summer?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He's been better lately, both in the greek league and the euroleague. Had 18 points against Real Madrid last night on 5/6 shooting and 8/10 from he foul line, which is a career high.

[CGD]

Can someone remind us of his buyout situation? Can he easily come over next summer or are there complications?

Dude needs to come over this summer. The big situation seems tenuous.

[NikosChelsea7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s3qnzGjrNM

[duncan2150]

Another good game from Mulitinov against Efes in Euroleague quaterfinal.

Olympiacos won 87/72, Mulitinov starts at center and finish with 11 pts (5/9 ) 7 rebounds 2 assists and 2 blocks in 26 minutes.

[NikosChelsea7]

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/433416/rc-buford-game-olympiacos-anadolu-efes/

[Chinook]

Happy to see he's recovering. Spurs are in an awkward position with him. He hasn't shown enough to have him in the future plans. But he still has enough potential to where he could be a rotation player soon. So should the Spurs hesitate to draft a big? The front court will likely be okay for another year, and Nikola and Cady might have chances to earning a rotation spot. The back court needs new blood, even with Murray. So if the Spurs are at 29 and both Hart and a big like Adebayo or Lessort are there, where does the team go? Should they big a third project big or a rotation-ready two?

Decisions, decisions.

[Chinook]

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/433416/rc-buford-game-olympiacos-anadolu-efes/

:lmao if they actually sign Printezis

[NikosChelsea7]

:lmao if they actually sign Printezis
0% chance. He is definitely re-signing with Olympiacos.

[CGD]

Happy to see he's recovering. Spurs are in an awkward position with him. He hasn't shown enough to have him in the future plans. But he still has enough potential to where he could be a rotation player soon. So should the Spurs hesitate to draft a big? The front court will likely be okay for another year, and Nikola and Cady might have chances to earning a rotation spot. The back court needs new blood, even with Murray. So if the Spurs are at 29 and both Hart and a big like Adebayo or Lessort are there, where does the team go? Should they big a third project big or a rotation-ready two?

Decisions, decisions.

I think the back court need is greater. Not sure a big man at the 29th pick is going to be more ready than Multinov is now, even if he needs a year riding the pine.

[Chinook]

I think the back court need is greater. Not sure a big man at the 29th pick is going to be more ready than Multinov is now, even if he needs a year riding the pine.

But that's what I'm talking about. Milutinov has been bad enough to where you can't assume he's going to be "ready" to be a rotation player. So if you see a guy like Adebayo who you think will be a rotation player within two years, maybe you go for it. Because center is a long-term need, and this is a draft where you can find a really good one at 29.

However, that decision could bite them in the ass if they pass up on a good perimeter player and Nikola ends up being a good project and the other big never gets a role.

[CGD]

It's a valid concern of course, I'm just more worried about the backcourt. I feel there is a way forward for the front court in the short term if at least two of Pau/Lee/DD return, and Bertans getting more minutes. The way forward for the backcourt looks bleak if you assume little money to add depth via FA. That is a lot of pressure for Murray to take a big step next year.

Given the depth in this draft I wonder if this is the year to trade back. Would you flip 29 to Philly for 37+39, or even better see if an embattled Orlando FO takes the bait for 33+35? I think I'd do either of those deals.

[objective]

I've watched him, not a lot this year compared to last, but I've watched full games, and I don't think he's been that bad

Not enough to dismiss him as a role player next year anyway. My problems with him are his physicality, he's just not in great shape. He's been worse covering the pick, looks like he has stiffer hips, can't get around like before. He's also weaker in general and gets worked in the post like David Lee, but at least he's taller.

If he can get on the Spurs program instead of the Greek League cigarette diet and workout routine he'll progress a lot, I'm sure of it. He's smart enough, can make all the passes required of Spurs bigs, and has a nose for the ball.

One thing that's made me higher in him recently quite frankly, and should do so for other fans, is the massive success and translation if Adriatic centers in this current generation. Boban was the elite over there and a little older, but look at the other ones:. Jokic, Nurkic, Zubac and Zizic (one day). Quite frankly that region and league has been a gold mine and that generation has been excelling, and Milutinov was right there with them.

I think he'll probably fair better in the NBA than trudging in the Greek League.

The bigger picture issue with him is that he's only one more year away from being free from the rookie scale. Not that he'll be in line for some big payday, but the temptation will be there.

[jyra]

Thanks for the update. I might watch some of the remaining Euroleague games.

I hope that Milutinov finally comes over for Summer League this offseason. I can't imagine him getting called up to the national team with Jokic, Boban, Raduljica and Kuzmic sitting above him in the center hierarchy.

[palangi]

Bring him over and let him develop in Austin. Seemed to help LJC more than the euro league.

[CGD]

Bring him over and let him develop in Austin. Seemed to help LJC more than the euro league.

Great write up, thanks. Based on that, I kind of think the Spurs draft for backcourt help this year and roll the dice on him as their big man prospect next year. They can also see what Cady and Livio can offer.

[Down Under]

Could be something there, judging by his passing out of Pick and Roll's. Having a dive man who can finish and pass as well as defend is something we need. Doesn't look mobile enough as Splitter to play the 4 though.

[BackHome]

Yeah he is a true old type of Center he will hold the middle and get easy baskets around the rim. Only question I have is how is he on defense rebounding and shot blocking?

[SAGirl]

has anyone watched Milutinov recently?
His team is making it to the final in the Euroleague this sunday.
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He apparently played well this past game. Just going by tweeter reviews though.

[SAGirl]

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[keithington1]

He is the reason we could pass on drafting a center.

[raybies]

has anyone watched Milutinov recently?
His team is making it to the final in the Euroleague this sunday.
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He apparently played well this past game. Just going by tweeter reviews though.
Good scouting. Does he start now and who he play for?

[CGD]

He pops up a couple times in here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WkzpX1b6dTA Including a nice PnR around 1:55.

[jyra]

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Nothing to write home about. I only watched the last quarter of the CSKA game and he didn't do much in the 2 minutes he got. I imagine that he will get some decent playing time in the finals to match up with Udoh.

[Chinook]

Yeah, I'm not using that line as a reason to pass up on a big if one falls to me. The Spurs are looking for future starters not bit players, and Milutinov is exactly a bit player right now. A lot of people have the Spurs drafting a PG at 29. I think they have a much bigger need for a center than a point guard given the prospects in the pipeline.

[duncan2150]

Yeah, I'm not using that line as a reason to pass up on a big if one falls to me. The Spurs are looking for future starters not bit players, and Milutinov is exactly a bit player right now. A lot of people have the Spurs drafting a PG at 29. I think they have a much bigger need for a center than a point guard given the prospects in the pipeline.

Thie biggest need is a guard imo, a guard who can defend and score. In general i think spurs need players who can score, create their shot.... I Know you're not sold on Mulitinovic but you can't say what he'll be now, his playing lately with Olympiakos is interesting and Euroleague is way harder than NCAA.

Nervetheless i don't mind drafting a good big if someone is there with our 29th pick.

[raybies]

Yeah, I'm not using that line as a reason to pass up on a big if one falls to me. The Spurs are looking for future starters not bit players, and Milutinov is exactly a bit player right now. A lot of people have the Spurs drafting a PG at 29. I think they have a much bigger need for a center than a point guard given the prospects in the pipeline.
Really wanted Zubac last year. Wish we would have made a move for him...

[SAGirl]

Good scouting. Does he start now and who he play for?
He's a bench player for Olympiacos. I get the impression he's improved through the season.
That level of competition is good for him. They made runs with him in the first half and he played well (by reviews). Since I didn't watch him I was curious.

Its possible that with another season there, he can build on this one, but it's tough to tell what Spurs plans are. He's still very young and developing.

[jyra]

Milutinov making an impact here in the first half of the finals. Two successful postups against Udoh so far. On the first one he established position deep in the paint for a tough finish (didn't make the FT for the And-1) and on the second he backup down Udoh from the mid post all the way for an easy hook shot. His post D and effort on the offensive glass have also been good.

[duncan2150]

Milutinov making an impact here in the first half of the finals. Two successful postups against Udoh so far. On the first one he established position deep in the paint for a tough finish (didn't make the FT for the And-1) and on the second he backup down Udoh from the mid post all the way for an easy hook shot. His post D and effort on the offensive glass have also been good.

Good game for Mulitinov with 10 pts ( 5/5 2pt) 4 rebounds 1 steal 1 assist 0 to in 14 minutes.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Possibly the best player on his team in a pretty bad game. They were let down by their vets.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUb5yKQKVg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-efuuLj2w

[venitian navigator]

looks that he can contribute next year
he could be the obvious third center (replacing Anthony, who's quite sure out next year) or second center (in case we don't re-up Deadmon).
the problem: who's gonna be our first center next year? ...cause LMA don't like the role and at this point looks not difficult to see that Pau is no longer an option for that big role...
however, a three men at center like Deadmon, Pau and Milutinov are imho a lot better than most nba teams

[CGD]

looks that he can contribute next year
he could be the obvious third center (replacing Anthony, who's quite sure out next year) or second center (in case we don't re-up Deadmon).
the problem: who's gonna be our first center next year? ...cause LMA don't like the role and at this point looks not difficult to see that Pau is no longer an option for that big role...
however, a three men at center like Deadmon, Pau and Milutinov are imho a lot better than most nba teams

Agree, Pau, DD, and Mulitinov would be a serviceable C rotation. Looks a lot dicier though if Dedmon leaves.

[picnroll]

Agree, Pau, DD, and Mulitinov would be a serviceable C rotation. Looks a lot dicier though if Dedmon leaves.

The way Pop dumped Dedmon at the end of the bench there's no conceivable way he'll resign with the Spurs.

[objective]

Slick post scoring against legit dudes.

Pau and LMA can't even score against midgets in the post or dunk with authority when the chance arises.

Milutinov better than any other Spurs center right now. And of course thanks to some wonderful foresight ... pretty good chance he's not coming over.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty561Q-S0hk

[objective]

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/453354/milutinov-waiting-spurs-call/

Milutinov waiting Spurs’ call


... Dewayne Dedmon (3m. $), David Lee (1,6 m. $) and Pau Gasol (16 m. $) have all player options for the extention of their contract for the 2017-18 season. If one of them decides to test the market and becomes a free agent – obviously in order to get a bigger contract – then the Spurs are ready to sign Milutinov, who was drafted by them at no 26 of the 2015 draft.

Milutinov’s contract with Olympiacos includes an NBA buy out of one million US dollars. However if Gasol, Dedmon and Lee use their options and remain part of the Spurs, then the most probable scenario for Milutinov will be to remain one more season in Europe and leave for the NBA at the summer of 2018, when he will be a free agent.

Olympiacos is in constant contact with the Spurs and waits their decision in order to decide also their summer moves for their front line. Milutinov emerged this season as a key member of the Reds and the Greeks would love to keep him for one more season.

Spurs can only contribute $675,000 to a buyout.

If he signed a rookie scale deal, he'd be at $1,465,920 to start.

[picnroll]

Euros who've seen him. How mobile is he on defense? How capable is he of switching on PNRs?

[CGD]

Just bring him over.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Euros who've seen him. How mobile is he on defense? How capable is he of switching on PNRs?

Safe to say it won't be a strength of his.

[objective]

Euros who've seen him. How mobile is he on defense? How capable is he of switching on PNRs?

It was actually a strength of his when drafted, mobility on defense and offensive rebounding. Check out the scouting videos of him.

In the games I saw this year he looked stiffer when defending the pick and roll, but maybe if he gets in better condition I think he'll be a plus. Good chance better than LMA when defending pick and roll.

[BackHome]

After watching some vids of his a couple of things stood out:

1. He is not afraid of contact
2. He is active around the rim for rebounds or put backs
3. His B-Ball IQ is pretty good he knows where to be on the court
4. He can actually jump and his feet leave the ground..lol
5. He is not lazy or soft and runs the court

I am all for bringing him and Hanga over this summer!!!

[objective]

His block numbers in the euroleague are quite impressive

For comparison,. Boban's euroleague blocks per 36 I recall being slightly higher in the NBA, and blocks have historically been a reliable correlator.

Milutinov, 2.4 blocks per 36 at the euroleague level

Just for comparison:.

Joel Anthony 1.8
Dedmon 1.7
Gasol 1.5

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty561Q-S0hk

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty561Q-S0hk

Didn't realize how beefy he was. Hopefully he's not a punk like Nurkic

[SAGirl]

^ Has more moves and can pass better than LMa. Obviously he will need a period of adjustment but Is like to see him in the Spurs.

[picnroll]

Watched the Fernbache and Efes games in the minutes he played. What I saw was a guy that set picks and screens all over the place. Shielded defenders around the basket to let his guys on drives get to the rim which will be handy for Murray. Picks up fouls on illegal picks a fair amount though. He will lay out some people. Strong around the basket, good footwork, all dunks or layups. Don't think I saw him put the ball on the floor once or take a shot three feet from the basket. Ok passer but no marvel. Decent rebounder, blocks out but isn't going to chase the ball down out of space. OK shot blocker. Decent on pick and roll, above Gasol level for sure.

[raybies]

Really don't need to draft a finishing big like Bell or Adebayo if you plan to bring him over. He's a better player and has more experience. He played in a major game and played really well. He's playing with grown men and on one of the best European teams at that. Bring him over.

[jyra]

Another solid game for him in the Greek finals helping his team to a win: http://www.eurohoops.net/en/heba/456087/milutinov-spanoulis-pace-olympiacos-1-0-vs-panathinaikos/ (http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/ESAKE/614075/bs.html)


With 2:16 remaining in the first Greek League Final, Panathinaikos was up 58 – 55 against Olympiacos on the road. It was a seemingly minor advantage but considerable one given how close the game was.

But Vassilis Spanoulis made the start after a basket after an offensive foul and Nikola Milutinov scored four consecutive points to pace the Reds to a 63 – 58 victory over their opponents.

The Serbian center was also the top scorer of his team together with Giorgos Printezis. They each scored 12 points while captain Vassilis Spanoulis notched a double-double of 11 points plus 10 assists, quite the number for such a poor offensive match.



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I'm glad that he is putting together some good games at the end of this season.

[objective]

Watched the Fernbache and Efes games in the minutes he played. What I saw was a guy that set picks and screens all over the place. Shielded defenders around the basket to let his guys on drives get to the rim which will be handy for Murray. Picks up fouls on illegal picks a fair amount though. He will lay out some people. Strong around the basket, good footwork, all dunks or layups. Don't think I saw him put the ball on the floor once or take a shot three feet from the basket. Ok passer but no marvel. Decent rebounder, blocks out but isn't going to chase the ball down out of space. OK shot blocker. Decent on pick and roll, above Gasol level for sure.

Good news is i think he'll get away with more illegal screens in the NBA. Spurs could use his screens period, I'm tired of bigs whiffing on guys.

[objective]

^ Has more moves and can pass better than LMa. Obviously he will need a period of adjustment but Is like to see him in the Spurs.

Sad to say but you might be right about the post moves. It was refreshing to see Milutinov break them out after a whole postseason of LMA and Pau just back down, no progress, back down, no progress, back down, give up and fade away brick.

I think Milutinov will score on Harden.

[raybies]

One more year and he'll probably end up starting and being regarded as one of the best bigs in Europe, in my estimation. What he showed in both Finals game is huge. I like that he shows up in big games. Euroleague finals is as big as it gets in Europe.

[raybies]

And i noticed the screens too when I watched his Euroleague final. He does moving screens just about every time.

[BackHome]

Man if this guys had Harden on him he would would have so abused him. He would have just turned around and double the the ball �� over Harden and broke his chest in the process. Pop sign this kid up he is from your homeland.

[BackHome]

We need to have a clause in for all new centers we sign NOT A PUSSY" and this kid is tough, mean, and plays with some passion.

It ain't hard to teach how to properly screen but you can't coach heart.

[objective]

Still only 22, doesn't even turn 23 until December 30

[GB20]

One more year and he'll probably end up starting and being regarded as one of the best bigs in Europe, in my estimation. What he showed in both Finals game is huge. I like that he shows up in big games. Euroleague finals is as big as it gets in Europe.
man!! how do the spurs find all these guys? it is crazy tbh.

[picnroll]

I'd like to see him stay over another year and hopefully expand his game. Right now in half court the only way he creates his own shot is posting up.

[GB20]

I'd like to see him stay over another year and hopefully expand his game. Right now in half court the only way he creates his own shot is posting up.
bring him over now. Tim will be working with him everyday.

[raybies]

I'd like to see him stay over another year and hopefully expand his game. Right now in half court the only way he creates his own shot is posting up.
Yeah me too but we probably gonna need him now. But one more year to establish himself coming off what he accomplished would be huge.

[objective]

I don't think another year on Olympiakos will do much as far as getting his scoring game better. Their offense is more about Spanoulis and Papanikalou and the team game than getting a big man to be a big time scorer.

[objective]

Besides, if Dedmon walks like everyone​ expects, there's a spot for a center. Don't want Joel Anthony in that role

[CGD]

Spurs probably have an interest in locking him in to the rookie scale, no?

[picnroll]

if the Spurs play him fine. As long as he doesn't just get buried on the bench for a year.

[objective]

Getting buried on the bench for the first year is what Pop does. He did it to Splitter for Bonner and washed Mcdyess, and Splitter was the acb MVP.

Better to get that wasted year out of the way next​ season .

[picnroll]

You have a point. Given the holes to fill and FA it's going to be an interesting off season and Pop and RC have their work cut out for them

[BackHome]

Yeah if we don't trade LMA or Gasol they will both be gone after the 2018 season so I would want someone not brand new for the following season.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TDx_I8F0b0

[ace3g]

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[BackHome]

14 pts and 5 rebounds and he hit a key free throw shot not bad hope the Spurs bring him over.

[duncan2150]

He's really developping well on this second part of the season.

[palangi]

And he'll take an even bigger step once he gets here. Much like livio did this year.

[BackHome]

Come on P....Livio was drafted cause he had great game in Reebok draft camp he played way above his talent and then fell to earth after being drafted. He was worth a gamble and that gamble didn't work out it not like he was a high draft pick...lol

[duncan2150]

Come on P....Livio was drafted cause he had great game in Reebok draft camp he played way above his talent and then fell to earth after being drafted. He was worth a gamble and that gamble didn't work out it not like he was a high draft pick...lol

that's not true, livio was promising, having a good competition ( youth euro i think ) the summer of His draft but that knee injury Kills him and he never really recovers. He looks Better this year.

[palangi]

Come on P....Livio was drafted cause he had great game in Reebok draft camp he played way above his talent and then fell to earth after being drafted. He was worth a gamble and that gamble didn't work out it not like he was a high draft pick...lol

I'm saying livio had more growth this year playing in Austin than his whole time in Europe. I think the same could be hoped for with Milutinov. Nikola does play for a more advanced team however.

I'd just like to see him come over and finish his development with the Spurs.

[objective]

https://youtu.be/SsgBdLGui7E

Condensed version of game with I think every basket

Milutinov with three grown man dunks in the half court offense, stuff you'd never see from Pau or LMA. He can load up and finish strong without any steps, something uncommon.

He also hurt a guard a little with a pick on the second score in the video, Spurs need some of that against GS.

And two big time clutch free throws with 30 seconds left, from down one to up one.

[BackHome]

I'm saying livio had more growth this year playing in Austin than his whole time in Europe. I think the same could be hoped for with Milutinov. Nikola does play for a more advanced team however.

I'd just like to see him come over and finish his development with the Spurs.

My Bad P...Yeah I agree I think some player will be OK staying over seas to develop but other players I think either put in D League or put on team

[objective]

https://youtu.be/6pAcHKSa6MI

Last 6 minutes of last game

Good, grimy, tough play. Really sticks it to guys. Plus hits his free throws, dunks strong, and can make himself available for a feed with the hands to catch

[Chinook]

Milutinov fouled every time down the floor in that vid. He's going to have a really rough rookie year if he doesn't clean up his game.

[south side spur]

Milutinov fouled every time down the floor in that vid. He's going to have a really rough rookie year if he doesn't clean up his game.

Pop had him studying Donkey Green.

[duncan2150]

Milutinov fouled every time down the floor in that vid. He's going to have a really rough rookie year if he doesn't clean up his game.

That's the part he needs to correct but i prefer this fault to BB fundamental for example. The european basket is different, he'll need to adjust but that's ok for me.

[picnroll]

He just needs to lay out Curry on a pick and he's earned his keep. Spurs version of Pachulia.

[r0drig0lac]

He just needs to lay out Curry on a pick and he's earned his keep. Spurs version of Pachulia.

[objective]

He didn't do anything that Green and Zaza don't do. Hell, he doesn't even do the full arm extension shoves they do.

NBA calls little crap on perimeter flops and drives. They let a lot of business go down low​ when it comes to positioning and grinding. He'll be fine aside from rookie calls.

[BackHome]

I would rather teach a tough guy to be a little more nice then teach (Gasoft or LMA) be tough. Also finally want to see see someone fight Green for rebounds and put backs.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I would rather teach a tough guy to be a little more nice then teach (Gasoft or LMA) be tough. Also finally want to see see someone fight Green for rebounds and put backs.

Poop seems allergic to those tough types. He ain't no Zen Master when it comes to managing strong personalities.

[palangi]

I would rather teach a tough guy to be a little more nice then teach (Gasoft or LMA) be tough. Also finally want to see see someone fight Green for rebounds and put backs.

Exactly. It's easier to pull back than push forward.

[DesignatedT]

This guy doesn't look ready. I guess you could still bring him over but meh.

[Play Boban]

Milutinov fouled every time down the floor in that vid. He's going to have a really rough rookie year if he doesn't clean up his game.
:cry

[Chinook]

:cry

Would instantly be better than Boban, though.

[Play Boban]

Would instantly be better than Boban, though.

:lol

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eja1ruGXpqQ

[CGD]

Looks like Shaq agaisnt the tiny Madrid bigs. I like Ayon, but they just had no size.

[SAGirl]

He probably needs to come over already. He will benefit from good big men coaching, practices with the team, the dleague, and even garbage time. Even if he looks raw, that's how Spurs rooks not named Kawhi have looked their first season. But it likely depends on other factors roster wise. There are no rumors about him like there were with Davis and now Hanga.

[CGD]

He probably needs to come over already. He will benefit from good big men coaching, practices with the team, the dleague, and even garbage time. Even if he looks raw, that's how Spurs rooks not named Kawhi have looked their first season. But it likely depends on other factors roster wise. There are no rumors about him like there were with Davis and now Hanga.

True, it's been quiet on the rumors for him. Might play out his deal and come over next year you think? Read earlier in here that next year he can go off the rookie scale.

[bluebellmaniac]

True, it's been quiet on the rumors for him. Might play out his deal and come over next year you think? Read earlier in here that next year he can go off the rookie scale.

That's what I'm thinking after reading similar articles. Doesn't make financial sense for him to come over until after next season.

[objective]

Most recent Greek League game against Panathanaikos had typical Euro vile crap.

Game wasn't even over before lit road flares started flinging.

After a brief delay, final two minutes with Milutinov were forced to play in choking smoke.

Maybe they'llt make the NBA more appealing, less risk of getting set on fire.

[jyra]

876026864988557312


The two players will spend the first part of their summer with the team that has their NBA rights as “MozzartSport” reports.

While Dangubic will probably spend also the next season with Crvena Zvezda, which has him under contract until 2018, the situation with Milutinov is quite different and the Spurs may decide that it’s time for him to play in the NBA.

The NBA buy out clause in his contract expires on the 15th of July. There’s one more issue with the two young players and that’s if their stay in the States can affect their call in the Serbian national team for the upcoming Eurobasket.

Great photo , he looks like he just realised that he forgot to turn off the stove.

[CGD]

Good to hear. hadnt heard anything about Dangabich

[jyra]

876717669893984257

Coach Sasha Djordjevic named 25 players in Serbia’s National Team preliminary list for Eurobasket 2017.

POINT GUARDS: Miloš Teodosić (CSKA), Stefan Jović (Red Star), Nemanja Nedović (Unicaja), Vasilije Micić (Žalgiris), Ognjen Jaramaz (Mega Leks), Aleksa Radanov (FMP)

GUARDS: Bogdan Bogdanovic (Fenerbahçe), Branko Lazić (Red Star), Dragan Milosavljević (ALBA), Marko Gudurić (Red Star), Nemanja Dangubić (Red Star)

SMALL FORWARDS: Nikola Kalinić (Fenerbahçe), Marko Simonović (Red Star), Vladimir Lučić (Bayern Munich), Ognjen Dobrić (Red Star), Dejan Davidovac (FMP)

POWER FORWARDS: Nemanja Bjelica (Minnesota), Milan Mačvan (EA7 Emporio Armani), Stefan Bircevic (Partizan NIS)

BIG MEN: Nikola Jokić (Denver), Boban Marjanovic (Detroit), Miroslav Raduljica (Điangsu), Vladimir Štimac (Bešiktaš), Nikola Milutinov (Olympiacos), Ognjen Kuzmić (Red Star)


The coach announced that within just 10 days a list of candidates will be reduced to 18 names, and that the assembly and start preparing scheduled for 20. July

So the training camp starts three days after the last day of the summer league. I hope that means that we can see both guys playing there.

[objective]

Wonder why Mitrovic isn't listed for the camp.

[Down Under]

http://www.sportando.com/en/national-teams/national-teams/239789/serbia-s-nt-head-coach-makes-some-cuts-17-players-still-in-the-list-for-eurobasket.html

Milutinov is skipping Eurobasket to work out with Spurs. Hopefully he comes over, we desperately need a dive man who can play D.

[CGD]

No new info on this guy, right? Just odd that it's mum one way or the other.

[CGD]

Damn seems like this dude is staying in Greece

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Hopefully they give him a starting role next season and develop him better, instead of backing up Khem Birch.

[Chinook]

Khem Birch.

That's a name I haven't heard in a while. Ah, I remember he was he as the fantasy on ST.

[BackHome]

God I hope Gasol retires after this year so we can bring him over in 2018.

[jyra]

Good start for Milutinov in the Euroleague, he is getting a lot more minutes this season. Yesterday's game:



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70TaTdKMzIk

You probably have to factor in that he was guarded by Malcom Thomas and Thomas Robinson who are both undersized bigs, but I didn't expect him hit a fadeaway out of the post up and a long 2. It's going to be interesting to see if he can really extend his shooting range.

[Ocotillo]

Nice game, hope he continues to improve.

[CGD]

What the latest thinking on him coming over next summer? I assume there is a buy out and we’ll be armed with the full MLE (not saying he gets it all).

[raybies]

Good start for Milutinov in the Euroleague, he is getting a lot more minutes this season. Yesterday's game:



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MILUTINOV, NIKOLA (http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003941&seasoncode=E2017)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70TaTdKMzIk

You probably have to factor in that he was guarded by Malcom Thomas and Thomas Robinson who are both undersized bigs, but I didn't expect him hit a fadeaway out of the post up and a long 2. It's going to be interesting to see if he can really extend his shooting range.
This kind of game is exactly why I thought it was a good idea to let him get at least one more year in. He is developing very well there. Let him grow till he breaks the pot. People always worried bout the money. Just need to relax and let things develop. Never know if you bring him in to early and it stunts his growth.

[raybies]

Game tomorrow at 1pm CST. Gonna try and catch that game.

[SAGirl]

Looks good if he doesn’t come over it’s going to be bc of some money thing. He’s got to be better than Joff soon. He’s a true center while Joff isn’t.

[duncan2150]

Mulitinov continues to have a good year with Olympiakos

In his last five euroleague's game, he had :

10 pts 5 rebounds 3 assists 2 steals on 5/6 shooting against Fenerbache

13 points 12 rebounds on 6/11 shooting against Zvezda

6 points 5 rebounds 1 block 3/7 against Valencia

12 points 7 rebounds 1 assists 1 stl 3 blocks 4/8 against Real

And one really bad game against Milan with 5 fouls in 5 minutes

Some highlights from the game vs Zvezda
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKVxJfDeaz0)

[BD24]

Hopefully we can get him over here next year. He can carve out a role as a decent role player

[spurraider21]

Hopefully we can get him over here next year. He can carve out a role as a decent role player
yea, austin could use a quality big

[BD24]

yea, austin could use a quality bigThis dude can play at the nba level. He moves well, rebounds well, and has a pretty decent touch around the rim.

[SAGirl]

I don't know what to think about his prospect of coming over.
Might be Adam Hanga part 2, but I doubt it since he's a first round pick.

considering Joff and his contributions to the team, this guy might come in next season.

[Atl Spur]

I don't know what to think about his prospect of coming over.
Might be Adam Hanga part 2, but I doubt it since he's a first round pick.

considering Joff and his contributions to the team, this guy might come in next season.

Hanga isn’t a bad ball player; both may fill roles next year.

[spurraider21]

Hanga isn’t a bad ball player; both may fill roles next year.
is what somebody will say 3 years from now

[BD24]

Hanga could have been a nice edition to the team, he will probably never come over though. A little late for him now, believe the guy is over 30 already, if not he is close.

[Atl Spur]

Hanga could have been a nice edition to the team, he will probably never come over though. A little late for him now, believe the guy is over 30 already, if not he is close.

He’s 28

[Atl Spur]

Leonard is 26

[CGD]

Any updates?

[objective]

Any updates?

holding steady.

Career highs in minutes and points in Euroleague, leads Olympiakos in the Euroleague for rebounds and blocks. Rebounds and blocks per 36 down from the last year, 5% in rebounds and and 40% in blocks, but turnovers down 40% and fouls down 55%. The fouls is a big deal, only 3.4 fouls per 36 is a significant improvement. I'm sure it that settling down and not trying to block every shot, while bringing down his block totals, has massively improved his susceptibility to fouls.

I haven't watched one of his games for maybe a month.

But I have no problem saying he's much better than Joffrey.

His only serious drawback would be that I think he still has issues getting out on shooters. I don't think it's an athletic issue, more of a mindset issue. Kind of the opposite of Davis who seems to over commit to contests.

[CGD]

Excellent analysis, thx

[duncan2150]

Some highlights of Milutinov last games. He was in foul trouble his last three games after one good game against Maccabi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD20_7pM7Sg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKAAmRpOq8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdrBlVOU1O8

[BackHome]

Thanks Duncan and Onjective - in the clips he looks a lot more comfortable then he did last year. He looks like he is definitely in the paint type of center. I do love that he looks pretty athletic and has good hands and finishes at the rim with Authority. Love his nickname “The Serbian Sledgehammer”. Lol

[jyra]

Solid first half for Milutinov against Real Madrid. He switched onto Doncic a couple of times and didn't get taken avantage of.

[jyra]

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MILUTINOV, NIKOLA
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Close win for his team. Lots of solid (sometimes illegal) screens and finishing on the P&R. Defense was good as well in the second half even though Doncic managed to draw two fouls on him. Both times he didn't get beaten off the dribble after the switch but on one drive he bit on a pump fake and on the other he got called for a soft foul contesting the shot. I need to see more of him guarding quicker players but he looked good doing it in this game.

[duncan2150]

And he was facing Walter Tavares who just managed 2 points and 2 rebounds.

[objective]

Close win for his team. Lots of solid (sometimes illegal) screens and finishing on the P&R. Defense was good as well in the second half even though Doncic managed to draw two fouls on him. Both times he didn't get beaten off the dribble after the switch but on one drive he bit on a pump fake and on the other he got called for a soft foul contesting the shot. I need to see more of him guarding quicker players but he looked good doing it in this game.

I think he'll get away with a lot of illegal screens in the NBA. NBA is just non-stop moving and non stop grabbing screens. He might be even more effective.

[objective]

Some highlights of Milutinov last games. He was in foul trouble his last three games after one good game against Maccabi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKAAmRpOq8


I really like the dunk and how it shows off his length and size. He slows down to next to nothing on the break, gets fed the ball, takes a step and takes off from 12-18 inches behind the charge circle and just dunks it.

He should be a great target for a Manu or White.

[MaNu4Tres]

I really like the dunk and how it shows off his length and size. He slows down to next to nothing on the break, gets fed the ball, takes a step and takes off from 12-18 inches behind the charge circle and just dunks it.

He should be a great target for a Manu or White.

Looks like he got a little thicker. How is his mobility defensively?

[objective]

Looks like he got a little thicker. How is his mobility defensively?

Not as agile as a couple of years ago.

Maybe below Splitter and slightly above Pau, but I haven't watched him for in full games for maybe 3 weeks or so, don't remember too clear. Better than Boban for sure.

[duncan2150]

Not as agile as a couple of years ago.

Maybe below Splitter and slightly above Pau, but I haven't watched him for in full games for maybe 3 weeks or so, don't remember too clear. Better than Boban for sure.

I think you're right.

The issue for Milutinov will be to adjust to nba physicality imo. Not that he's soft but He's bigger than most of euroleague's center. And he will also have to be careful with his screens and fouls.

But i'm not worry about him, he's young, big and have good hands. Plus he's improving every year in europe.

[Down Under]

Looks like a pretty decent passer. Definitely a big unit who can finish.

[duncan2150]

https://youtu.be/sakFSFqjE00

nice game by milutinov yesterday against valencia

15 pts (7/8) 6 rebounds

[spurraider21]

im glad we have been able to establish that he can indeed convert a two handed dunk

[objective]

5 more dunks

already beaten to it but still nice


https://youtu.be/sakFSFqjE00

[CGD]

Looks more fit this year. I still struggle to see where a lumbering center like him fits in this new NBA, but spurs are hurting for bigs

[Down Under]

Looks more athletic than Splitter who could barely dunk it flat footed, but doesn't have the same mobility.

[pad300]

Question, he was a first rounder in 2015. Is he still locked into a First Round Pick (FRP) contract, or will he come out of cap space/exceptions? If he is still locked into that FRP contract, when will it lapse?

[Chinook]

Question, he was a first rounder in 2015. Is he still locked into a First Round Pick (FRP) contract, or will he come out of cap space/exceptions? If he is still locked into that FRP contract, when will it lapse?

I have been under the impression that his restriction would go away starting next off-season. However, Mark Deeks' capulator suggests if he signed in July, it would also have to be for rookie scale. Starting in 2019 though, that restriction goes away.

[pad300]

I have been under the impression that his restriction would go away starting next off-season. However, Mark Deeks' capulator suggests if he signed in July, it would also have to be for rookie scale. Starting in 2019 though, that restriction goes away.

So in other words, we would likely be really well advised to bring him over this coming summer if possible. 1) To get an actual cap-controlled rookie contract, and 2) because there is an exception that allows you to sign your 1st round picks above the cap... As a follow up question, would he get the rookie scale (x 120% ) from the year he was drafted(2015, $991,600 ), or this summer (2018, starting at $1,421,600)?

[Chinook]

So in other words, we would likely be really well advised to bring him over this coming summer if possible. 1) To get an actual cap-controlled rookie contract, and 2) because there is an exception that allows you to sign your 1st round picks above the cap... As a follow up question, would he get the rookie scale (x 120% ) from the year he was drafted(2015, $991,600 ), or this summer (2018, starting at $1,421,600)?

A player who has been overseas for more than three years can still sign a rookie-scale deal. That's what happened with Livio last year. Doing it before then just makes it to where using cap space or an exception is not on the table. Yes the Spurs would be wise to sign him to the exception if at all possible. I think Nikola has a Bogdanovic-like deal in mind. I wouldn't want any part of that.

To answer your other question, he would get a deal based on the 2018 scale, not the 2015 scale.

[objective]

I have been under the impression that his restriction would go away starting next off-season. However, Mark Deeks' capulator suggests if he signed in July, it would also have to be for rookie scale. Starting in 2019 though, that restriction goes away.

Capulator must be wrong. Bogdan with the kings waited only three full seasons after being drafted in 14 and got his huge deal.

Milutinov drafted in 15. Three years is up.

Anyways, even if he wasn't looking for a Bogdan deal and wanted a capped-up Splitter deal (3/12 to 3/15), I don't know if the Spurs would be willing to pay anything over the scale because of how limited their options will be. If they operate as over the cap, they'll basically only have the MLE and BAE, right? I can't imagine they'd spend even half their MLE on an unproven-in-the-NBA player. With the limited caproom across the league, it'll probably be a buyer's market and the full MLE might be enough to get a decent established player, much more in line with what Pop wants over a rookie he won't even play.

[duncan2150]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RovUokRkqU

Today vs Bramberg in Euroleague : 16 points 6 rebounds( 5 off) 2 assists 1 block

[venitian navigator]

looks like he could be worth a look for next year...considering we're old on our front line and that at the same time he's now more experienced than all the young guys in the next draft...and more than all that, if it is correct what's been told me by some spurstalkers, we'll have not only the rookie scale contract but also in case the mle available also if Gay opts in...

[spurraider21]

wonder if his gorilla dunks will work out against nba centers

[BD24]

Would be nice to get him over here next year. Can't be any worse than that piece of shit Joff tbh.

[jyra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0cK42zc-ZY

[duncan2150]

Nice game by Nikola, he's a dunking machine this year. What i like is that he's quick to the rim.

He also had a good game last wednesday vs cska with 10 pts 5/5 5 rebounds and 2 blocks in 16 minutes.

[CGD]

Does he have an outside shot?

[duncan2150]

Does he have an outside shot?

He can shoot, he has good hands imo. He made some shot at the beginning of the year plus he’s a good ft shooter. But for maybe 3 months he Plays exclusively in the paint as we see with all his dunks.

[spurraider21]

as i said above, not sure a guy who scores exclusively via two handed dunks will have the same success in the NBA, but he cant be worse than joff

[objective]

Really good hands, I was rewatching all his euroleague highlights from this season and he corrals low passes all the time for those dunks. Throw him the ball and he can get it, low or wide, useful for the Spurs team that isn't used to throwing lobs.

[duncan2150]

as i said above, not sure a guy who scores exclusively via two handed dunks will have the same success in the NBA, but he cant be worse than joff

He's not just a dunker, he's good at Pic'n'roll and quick to the rim. I think he will be useful for the Spurs, as i said the issue for him will be to adjust to nba physicallity.