we could know on tuesday about Ginobili's future

[tony77]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Ginobili-decision-on-2015-16-season-to-come-in-6354341.php

[Ditty]

One more year Manu...

[ElNono]

'Tuesday' is just a guess by the E-N writer, tbh...

Gino didn't give any specific date...

[DPG21920]

Well unless Gino is a first rate a-hole, there is no way he should not give SA his decision before FA starts. That is just bad business.

[BatManu20]

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[Vic Petro]

Is he really going to write an article to say one more year? Feels like a retirement to me.

[timtonymanu]

He's retiring.

[stephen jackson]

does sound like hes done. if thats the title of the article......

[RD2191]

Fuck, can we convince Tony to retire and keep Manu?

[TE]

:cry Holy shit thought this day would never come

[ducks]

:cry Holy shit thought this day would never come

Yes it should he is done

[TE]

Yes it should he is done
Looked old, didn't look terrible. There is a difference.

[TE]

Btw ducks you gonna throw a party if he does retire? :lol I swear some of you all will carry an agenda all the way to your graves.

[Vic Petro]

I think it's the right move for him. He looked noticeably more rickety last season. To think that would get potentially worse...

You know what they say, better one year too early than too late.

[RD2191]

Manu was dropping more dimes than our starting PG in the playoffs.:lol Sure the dude had some wacky passes but the good outweighs the bad imo.

[ducks]

Looked old, didn't look terrible. There is a difference.

One out of 5 games plays decent spurs need the roster spot to get ready to be 6th man

[davi78239]

What if he comes back as an assistant/player/coach or something like that??

[Malik Hairston]

Still valuable as a 15 MPG playmaker off the bench, would be a big blow for a team that is already lacking in playmakers at the guard position, tbh..

If Manu retires and Green leaves, the guard rotation is going to be extremely ugly..

[ducks]

Manu was dropping more dimes than our starting PG in the playoffs.:lol Sure the dude had some wacky passes but the good outweighs the bad imo.

Tp could drop more dimes against other teams bench players to
Bench was better then starters a lot they scored lots of points
Diaw helped Manu out
Another play maker out there

[TE]

Still valuable as a 15 MPG playmaker off the bench, would be a big blow for a team that is already lacking in playmakers at the guard position, tbh..
Basically this.

[ducks]

Still valuable as a 15 MPG playmaker off the bench, would be a big blow for a team that is already lacking in playmakers at the guard position, tbh..

If Manu retires and Green leaves, the guard rotation is going to be extremely ugly..
useless on back to backs 4 games in 5 nights

[TE]

What if he comes back as an assistant/player/coach or something like that??
Judging from his comments in that EN article, doesn't he want to spend more time with his children? Damn the way they make his announcement sound on that article points to the inevitable announcement that he will retire.

[ducks]

What if he comes back as an assistant/player/coach or something like that??

Those passes he throws are dangerous high reward and high risk

[024]

Sounds like retirement.... Spurs really need to keep Green now and desperately need a play maker off the bench.

[look_at_g_shred]

If he retires, would it be easier to sign LMA?

[Vic Petro]

He does leave a huge hole in that the Spurs are down to one player who can reliably create offense out of P&R. Even if Kawhi takes a big leap in this regard, they need another playmaker for sure.

[SpurPadre]

I'm calling it right now: semi-retirement, will come back after the All-Star Break for one more go at another ring.

[ducks]

green not playmaker

[davi78239]

So..if he does retire for sure, does this mean they should have drafted someone like that guy from georgia state who was still on the boards?

[Manu20]

Maybe he will say this coming season will be his last?

[ace3g]

and that Ginobili will return at a deeply discounted rate, sources said. Ginobili will announce his intentions in a column he will write for an Argentine newspaper.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25227595/free-agent-buzz-with-opt-out-lebron-james-stays-in-full-control

[Mugen]

Wouldn't read much into it either way. He's always been very open, not surprised to see him write a full article about giving it one more go rather than just say "I'm Back" tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Wouldn't read much into it either way. He's always been very open, not surprised to see him write a full article about giving it one more go rather than just say "I'm Back" tbh.

A few years ago, he made a big announcement that he was going to play for the national team and he simply tweeted it instead of writing a full article about it. So, I'm a bit concerned this time around.

[raybies]

Still valuable as a 15 MPG playmaker off the bench, would be a big blow for a team that is already lacking in playmakers at the guard position, tbh..

If Manu retires and Green leaves, the guard rotation is going to be extremely ugly..

Shved:lol

[Budkin]

Maybe he will say this coming season will be his last?

My prediction.

[bklynspursfan]

Wouldn't read much into it either way. He's always been very open, not surprised to see him write a full article about giving it one more go rather than just say "I'm Back" tbh.

Was my initial thinking as well. His final hoorah

[Mugen]

I just don't envision a scenario where the Spurs lose both Manu and Danny. I don't think Pop and RC would be dumb enough to let that happen and have the balls to face Timmy and ask for that paycut.

[beirmeistr]

He'll announce that this will be his final season, unlleess Ducks and Hater beg him to play until 2017.

[beirmeistr]

Seriously, though, I think LMA would prefer to have Ginobili on the Spurs if he comes to SA .

[ElNono]

Well unless Gino is a first rate a-hole, there is no way he should not give SA his decision before FA starts. That is just bad business.

He might inform the Spurs of his decision beforehand, but might not publicize it until he feels like sitting down and writing the article up, league sources tell me.

[therealtruth]

If Manu changes the way he plays he could still be effective.

[BillMc]

Was my initial thinking as well. His final hoorah Hope you're right. To quote Han Solo "I've got a bad feeling about this."

[BillMc]

El Nono, what do your gut instincts tell you?

[DesignatedT]

He's coming back. Him and Tim.

[Mugen]

El Nono, what do your gut instincts tell you?

Probably "eat more" tbh

[ElNono]

He hasn't really hinted in any direction. The only thing we know is that he won't play with the NT in late august on the Olympic qualifier in Mexico, which would indicate he's saving his body for one more NBA season, but I don't think it's a sure thing either.

[ElNono]

Probably "eat more" tbh

I'm blaming 'Murica, tbh :lol

[Mugen]

You my nig, Nono....regardless of El Client's decision.....unless he wants a raise then you dead to me tbh.

[ducks]

If Manu changes the way he plays he could still be effective.

No he would not

[ElNono]

You my nig, Nono....regardless of El Client's decision.....unless he wants a raise then you dead to me tbh.

Gonna be hard to take another 50% paycut looking at other thank you contracts the team has extended, tbh...

[Mugen]

http://i.imgur.com/ic0ZMVx.gif

[beirmeistr]

Somebody has champagne on ice wai ting for Manu's sorrowful retirement notice.

[dbestpro]

I'm calling it right now: semi-retirement, will come back after the All-Star Break for one more go at another ring.

Agreed.

[BillMc]

Probably "eat more" tbh
:lol

[DPG21920]

He might inform the Spurs of his decision beforehand, but might not publicize it until he feels like sitting down and writing the article up, league sources tell me.

For sure - I only care about him letting the Spurs know. We will know whether or not it's announced based on the Spurs actions

[Beaverfuzz]

Well unless Gino is a first rate a-hole, there is no way he should not give SA his decision before FA starts. That is just bad business.

Yep.

[Beaverfuzz]

Gonna be hard to take another 50% paycut looking at other thank you contracts the team has extended, tbh...

Well, cut down the turnovers by 50% and maybe he'll get a little more $$$?

[BillMc]

He hasn't really hinted in any direction. The only thing we know is that he won't play with the NT in late august on the Olympic qualifier in Mexico, which would indicate he's saving his body for one more NBA season, but I don't think it's a sure thing either.

As you say he might not be playing in Mexico because he's saving his body or he might not be playing in Mexico because he's done with basketball period.

We'll know soon.

[ElNono]

As you say he might not be playing in Mexico because he's saving his body or he might not be playing in Mexico because he's done with basketball period.

We'll know soon.

Yeah. Although I don't see Gino too far away from basketball, tbh... I can see where he would take a sabbatical for a couple years, but I think he'll be involved in some project, either with the Spurs or back in Bahia Blanca. Not coaching, but in some managerial capacity.

[ElNono]

Well, cut down the turnovers by 50% and maybe he'll get a little more $$$?

Frankly, I don't think money will be an issue, especially if the Spurs stay over the cap.

[Seventyniner]

I think Parker will get closer to his career average next year than Manu. Not that that's saying much...

[tholdren]

manu will go one more year. I know

[Uriel]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25227595/free-agent-buzz-with-opt-out-lebron-james-stays-in-full-control
The whole thing is worth reading in its entirety:

Closing in on Kawhi. While the Spurs await official word that Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are coming back, their first order of business will be swift and simple: Re-signing defensive player of the year Kawhi Leonard to a five-year max deal, league sources told CBSSports.com.
Don't expect any big recruitment meetings, songs or dances when the negotiating floodgates open just after midnight ET Wednesday -- just a simple, quietly executed agreement that will keep Leonard in San Antonio well into his prime. The max deal is likely to have an early-termination option after the fourth season, sources said.
Leonard, who turns 24 on Monday, waited a year to get his commitment from the Spurs so the team would have payroll flexibility. He isn't inclined to do a shorter deal and take advantage of the rising cap next summer; there's injury risk involved, and Leonard will still be young enough to reap the benefits of the higher cap when he hits the market again in 2019.
With Leonard in the fold, the Spurs will immediately focus their attention on unrestricted free agent LaMarcus Aldridge, and there's a legitimate chance he ends up joining the five-time champions, said a person familiar with the situation. The expectation is that Duncan will be back for his 19th season, and that Ginobili will return at a deeply discounted rate, sources said. Ginobili will announce his intentions in a column he will write for an Argentine newspaper.
If there's a fear among Spurs executives, it's that they won't have enough room left to retain Danny Green, who has attracted interest from the Mavs, Blazers and Pistons, sources said.

[Uriel]

Manu won't retire. There are multiple reports saying the Spurs are already operating under the assumption that both Tim and Manu will be back next season.

Besides, all those reports saying Aldridge is coming to the Spurs must have energized him. It's unlikely that he would pass on the opportunity to join a super team that would be instant favorites to win the championship.

[look_at_g_shred]

Maybe in his article, he's going to say he's excited to play with LMA :hat

[Shabazz]

Fingers crossed he retires

[ElNono]

Manu won't retire. There are multiple reports saying the Spurs are already operating under the assumption that both Tim and Manu will be back next season.

Besides, all those reports saying Aldridge is coming to the Spurs must have energized him. It's unlikely that he would pass on the opportunity to join a super team that would be instant favorites to win the championship.

Manu mentioned in his last La Nación article that Pop told Tim and him he expected them with the team next season. I don't think that means he won't retire though.

[beirmeistr]

Manu won't retire. There are multiple reports saying the Spurs are already operating under the assumption that both Tim and Manu will be back next season.

Besides, all those reports saying Aldridge is coming to the Spurs must have energized him. It's unlikely that he would pass on the opportunity to join a super team that would be instant favorites to win the championship.

agree with above and I think LMA expects Ginobili to be on the roster if he chooses the Spurs.

[Ocotillo]

This is like Lebron's, the decision: Manu: I'm taking my talents to south beach.

[kaji157]

I think LMA is more likely to sign here if we offer as much talent and experience possible, having Ginobili on board would add to that, and make the LMA signing a bit closer.
Whatever morons here say Manu on the roster adds more positive than negative and is important on luring players looking for championships.
Plus, i don´t see manu playing more than 15-20 minutes a game so whether the spurs win or loose it won´t be based on his performance.

[Beaverfuzz]

Well, I think that this point in their careers and if you can make the $$'s work, I think I'd rather have Verde than Manu. Manu could be a very good assistant coach though for Popp.

[hater]

Fingers crossed he retires

[tholdren]

Fingers crossed he retires
why? even when he looked bad during the regular season he was equal to Danny in terms of PER, and many want Green for high dollar. His STL% was better than Green's during the regular season as well. Second, when Green took a nose dive in the playoffs, Manu's stats actually improved. Manu is still effective, he's a better offensive player than Green, even at his age, and he's still crafty and hungry on defense. Give him 15-20 off the bench, otherwise you will have ISO ball and no scorers. Impressively enough, or sadly enough, Manu is still the best playmaker for the spurs.

[Malik Hairston]

I'm surprised that some Spurs fans seem to want him to retire, tbh..

He wasn't nearly as good as he was in 2014, but he wasn't bad at all in 2015 IMO..he's still by far the best playmaker on the team, and it would be another hole for the team to fill if he's gone..they would have 0.5 playmakers at the guard positions without Ginobili(I give Parker half a point, assuming he rounds back into an average player), the team already has a few roles that need allocation, they can't afford to need another playmaker..

[ElNono]

I'm surprised that some Spurs fans seem to want him to retire, tbh..

He wasn't nearly as good as he was in 2014, but he wasn't bad at all in 2015 IMO..he's still by far the best playmaker on the team, and it would be another hole for the team to fill if he's gone..they would have 0.5 playmakers at the guard positions without Ginobili(I give Parker half a point, assuming he rounds back into an average player), the team already has a few roles that need allocation, they can't afford to need another playmaker..

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247098

Top 5 Spur against the Clips, outplaying 3 starters in limited minutes, tbh... then again if he does come back for one more run the vanilla, cliché fans will obsess over his turnovers while overlooking how that bench can't dribble a basketball if Gino isn't holding their hands... so maybe it's time for him to walk away...

[beirmeistr]

why? even when he looked bad during the regular season he was equal to Danny in terms of PER, and many want Green for high dollar. His STL% was better than Green's during the regular season as well. Second, when Green took a nose dive in the playoffs, Manu's stats actually improved. Manu is still effective, he's a better offensive player than Green, even at his age, and he's still crafty and hungry on defense. Give him 15-20 off the bench, otherwise you will have ISO ball and no scorers. Impressively enough, or sadly enough, Manu is still the best playmaker for the spurs.

I agree 100 %

[ducks]

per per manu is useless he can not play 30-35 minutes and be effective

[spurs10]

Can't wait to hear Manu is coming back for anther year. He's one of my favorite players of all time and getting to see him play another year is going to be fantastic! Also his playmaking and passing skills are at an extremely high level still and he'll play with a lot of passion this year.

[itsamanuthree]

oops! Wrong thread

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

People who want Manu to retire don't know basketball.

If he could truly be a role player for this team...15-20 minutes a game, less depending on the situation and matchup, he'd be fantastic. Problem is he gets pressed into doing a lot more than he should have because he's still the best all around guard on the team.

[vander]

People who want Manu to retire don't know basketball.

If he could truly be a role player for this team...15-20 minutes a game, less depending on the situation and matchup, he'd be fantastic. Problem is he gets pressed into doing a lot more than he should have because he's still the best all around guard on the team.

he tries to do things he clearly can't do anymore, he had a turnover and 2 misses for every made shot against LAC, and that was under 20 mpg

[Beaverfuzz]

he tries to do things he clearly can't do anymore, he had a turnover and 2 misses for every made shot against LAC, and that was under 20 mpg

This is correct, the mind is still there but Manu's body clearly is not anymore.

[monkeypunk]

People who want Manu to retire don't know basketball.

If he could truly be a role player for this team...15-20 minutes a game, less depending on the situation and matchup, he'd be fantastic. Problem is he gets pressed into doing a lot more than he should have because he's still the best all around guard on the team.

This, when everyone starts sucking, they look at Manu and he, being Manu, does everything in his power to turn back time and help and we get what we got. 15 minutes and a defined role meaning no dunks, no taking charges, no attacking the team in a packed paint, etc. Just facilitate and run the offense. For the bae and a minutes cap plus a very limited role, he can still be a positive piece and in certain situations, a game changer.

[gambit1990]

if we go over the cap we can't sign manu in january?

[ElNono]

AFAIK, signing Manu is not an issue as the team has bird's rights on him.

[apalisoc_9]

Manu palyed better than Parker last season and people want him to retire while they sing praises of the 14 million dollar Parker earned last year..

I just don't know what to say anymore..

[SupremeGuy]

Manu palyed better than Parker last season and people want him to retire while they sing praises of the 14 million dollar Parker earned last year..

I just don't know what to say anymore..lol this, I want Manu back for at least one more year...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He's my favorite athlete of all time. I'd honestly have no issue if the Spurs want to keep signing him up until he's 50.


As Bill Simmons once said, we'll see 10 more Dwyane Wade's before we see another Manu Ginobili.

[Leetonidas]

I'll be sad if he retires. No matter what he has done in 2013 or last season on any prior injury year, he was still the man for many years and truly the most underrated two guard in NBA history. In his prime he was on par with Dwyane Wade as the #2 SG in the league imo. Hope he returns for another year, wouldn't be the same to have Tim out there without Manu at this point

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu palyed better than Parker last season and people want him to retire while they sing praises of the 14 million dollar Parker earned last year..

I just don't know what to say anymore..

I don't see anyone singing the praises of Parker in any way, shape, or form right now. Most are pretty pissed at his play in the Clippers series.