Sources: Danny Green has agreed to a 4 year, $45 million deal with the Spurs

[Spurs Brazil]

GREAT news!

[pookenstein]

i think the family refers to pop's mafia ties.

:lol

[Diego20]

Good news, now time for him to improves his handling skills..

[SpurPadre]

Great news. We have retained our Curry stopper.

[r0drig0lac]

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damn, that is amazing

[bigfan]

Great news, regardless of Aldridge efforts.

[z0sa]

Well, at least we didn't lose both Green and Splitter.

[SequSpur]

D Green!!!! Boom!

[cjw]

You mean it doesn't look like this for everyone?



Might be work vs. home computer?

[milkyway21]

Thank U Spurs for bringing him back :worthy:

WINGSPAN DEFENSIVE Duo is LOCKED!

[Splits]

Might be work vs. home computer?

Actually I figured it out. I installed a plugin named Ghostery to Chrome recently. Once I whitelisted spurstalk, the tweets show up properly!

[Obstructed_View]

I hate to lose Splitter, but I was more worried about losing Danny. Getting LA would be nice, but keeping Green, Kawhi, and Patty seem more important to me.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I hate to lose Splitter, but I was more worried about losing Danny. Getting LA would be nice, but keeping Green, Kawhi, and Patty seem more important to me.

2 for 3 on that wish list as of now. Hoping to hold on to Patty as well.

[milkyway21]

Sorry Detroit.

[elemento]

Great contract.

Carroll got a 60m contract and Danny is flat out better than him. Glad to have Danny back

If SA gets LMA, the rest of the league is fucked :lol

[tholdren]

good choice danny… good choice

[Obstructed_View]

good choice danny… good choice

If anyone in the Spurs organization has cause to be a bit loyal to the team, it's Danny, and he showed it. I bet he could have either taken more money from somewhere else or held out for some more money and waste more time. Getting the business done right away with no drama just proves he's on board.

[99 Problems]

:lobt2:That's wot I'm talking about.

[KL2]

Glad to see him back. Leonard/Green have improved each off season, Wingstop is coming back with a vengeance this year, it's gonna be sick!

[TD 21]

Contrary to popular opinion, I felt they were going to find a way to get this done. I had some trepidation that the Pistons might blow them away financially, but I always felt he'd stay if the offer was relatively close.

He's not quite in line with what Aldridge would mean, but he's honestly not that far off, in terms of them contending. They would not have been able to do so had they lost him, even with Aldridge.

[Silver&Black]

:hungry: WINGSTOP still open for business

http://i.imgur.com/hWDbuMK.png

[Splits]

Shumpert just signed 4/40 :lol

thank you DG

[Spur|n|Austin]

Shumpert just signed 4/40 :lol

thank you DG

wow...

[Agloco]

LDN got ripped off tbh. Middleton getting 5/70? Shump at 4/40? Lol wow.

I understand the homers will disagree but this is borderline disrespectful.

[GSH]

Not to project, but the Spurs are a team that keeps players around. Green can be set for life in the Spurs' organization in some capacity. We'll be seeing Bonner for years, for example. I can see Green as the same, if he wanted.


Bonner is a very smart guy. Wasn't there an article that he had the highest IQ in the league, or something like that? He sucked in the playoffs, but he knows the game. I'd be shocked if they didn't try to keep him in the organization.

Green is what Ime Udoka should have been, and Ime is wearing a suit on the sidelines. So, yeah, Green could be in SA long, long term.

[Uriel]

Tbh, Curry signed a 4 yr / 45M deal with the Warriors in 2012. Danny Green is getting paid the same as the league MVP, so I wouldn't exactly call it such a huge discount.

[timvp]

Tbh, Curry signed a 4 yr / 45M deal with the Warriors in 2012. Danny Green is getting paid the same as the league MVP, so I wouldn't exactly call it such a huge discount.

Can't make that comparison due to the soon-to-explode salary cap and the fact that Curry was thought of as a major injury risk at the time.

[TD 21]

Tbh, Curry signed a 4 yr / 45M deal with the Warriors in 2012. Danny Green is getting paid the same as the league MVP, so I wouldn't exactly call it such a huge discount.

:lol They're incomparable. Curry's ankles were a huge question mark at the time, as good/promising as he looked, he not only wasn't what he is now, but wasn't on an obvious path to being what he is and the current economical climate of the league is significantly different.

[heyheymymy]

Danny Green is a motherfuckin G. I've got nothing but respect for a move like that. Ice water in his veins no matter if it's a ball or a pen in his hand.

Dude is straight FAM AS FUCK right now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Take a look at SG on the depth charts - by far the thinnest position in the NBA. Replacing an elite defender who is one of four players to shoot over 40% from 3 on over 100 3s in each of the past 4 seasons would've been impossible. Excellent move to retain him (even though he drives us crazy sometimes).

[100%duncan]

WE NEED DANIEL BRYAN. YES YES YES YES YES. WINGSTOOOOOP!

[BatManu20]

Danny celebrating by gettin it in with white bitches, tbh.


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[Obstructed_View]

Take a look at SG on the depth charts - by far the thinnest position in the NBA. Replacing an elite defender who is one of four players to shoot over 40% from 3 on over 100 3s in each of the past 4 seasons would've been impossible. Excellent move to retain him (even though he drives us crazy sometimes).

Losing Green and Ginobili would have been a team killer.

[ajh18]

Danny celebrating by gettin it in with white bitches, tbh.


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Two comments:

1) Whoever Jerry Nolf is, lol at his comment. Them socks and chanclas?

2) Is he the baby daddy? If not, well done to this girl getting an NBA player.

[Uriel]

Bonner is a very smart guy. Wasn't there an article that he had the highest IQ in the league, or something like that? He sucked in the playoffs, but he knows the game. I'd be shocked if they didn't try to keep him in the organization.

Green is what Ime Udoka should have been, and Ime is wearing a suit on the sidelines. So, yeah, Green could be in SA long, long term.
I don't know about him having the highest IQ in the league, but his SAT Score of 1350 would translate to an IQ somewhere in the top 2% of the world population.

[Sean Cagney]

:hungry: WINGSTOP still open for business

http://i.imgur.com/hWDbuMK.png
YES SSSIRRRRRRRR.

[Fireball]

Good we brought him back! If we need a crunchtime three, he is the player to deliver ...

[BillMc]

Danny celebrating by gettin it in with white bitches, tbh.


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Is it his baby? Is this girl getting half of the 45 million? Poor Danny...

[NASpurs]

Danny celebrating by gettin it in with white bitches, tbh.


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Is she preparing to receive the Shocker by Danny? Two in the pink and one in the stink?

[TheGreatYacht]

:hungry: WINGSTOP still open for business

http://i.imgur.com/hWDbuMK.png
Congrats on the bold fam :tu

[Shabazz]

Is it his baby? Is this girl getting half of the 45 million? Poor Danny...

Danny has no children.

[lefty20]

Dude is the fucking boss for taking a bro deal on what was certainly his one and only chance to cash in big. Still can't believe that some ppl actually thought Danny was easily replaceable, smdh.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Could Danny's contract be like Splitter trade: no aldridge, no discount

[palangi]

Now that Danny is back. How about brim binging in his cousin gerald green? I know he is a bit of a wild card, but he is also very talented. Having Danny here might help him to buy into the spur way and focus more on defense. At 6'7" very long and very athletic he would be nice rotation guy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CAW6WjyXCfA

[spursistan]

Bump.

Wes Matthews 4/70m$ coming off an achilles :rollin

This why Danny Green is a Spur through and through :flag: now if certain players and Pop stop scapegoating him:(

[Chinook]

Matthews is getting $17.5 Million a year?!?!?!?!?!?!?1/1/1/1/1/1?!?!?!?

:lol and Cuban trying to rep Wes as an awesome person for staying on in Dallas.

[TXstbobcat]

Good god what a shitty contract for the Mavs. :lmao

[dabom]

Matthews is getting $17.5 Million a year?!?!?!?!?!?!?1/1/1/1/1/1?!?!?!?

:lol and Cuban trying to rep Wes as an awesome person for staying on in Dallas.

:wow








:lmao

[YGWHI]

Wes Matthews 4/70m$ coming off an achilles :rollin

Parsons? Overpaid. Matthews? Overpaid. Cuban is doing a solid job. :lmao

[024]

Danny didn't need to take such a discount. He will be signed last along with Leonard. Him getting a couple more million a year will not impact the team at all. It's one thing to sign a lower contract to fit the salary cap but the Spurs will already be capped out when Green signs.

[Aztecfan03]

Danny didn't need to take such a discount. He will be signed last along with Leonard. Him getting a couple more million a year will not impact the team at all. It's one thing to sign a lower contract to fit the salary cap but the Spurs will already be capped out when Green signs.
the only effect would be to the luxury tax. And future cap.

[RayTdropout]

Love dan the man

[cjw]

the only effect would be to the luxury tax. And future cap.

I'm hoping they've frontloaded his contract: $12.04 / $11.50 / $10.98 / $10.49 = $45 million both to reward him upfront and to preserve maximum flexibility in the future.

[BatManu20]

It's official.

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[gambit1990]

i thought he was gonna be gone when last season ended. really glad i was wrong. that nigga coulda got $$$.

[BatManu20]

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[AFBlue]

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:lol

[dgspursforlife]

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:lol

[BillMc]

I wonder how many years/championships/accolades Danny will need to get to "Bowen-level" where they retire his jersey (or retire it at least until some big wig FA wants that number. :lol)?

[Aztecfan03]

I'm hoping they've frontloaded his contract: $12.04 / $11.50 / $10.98 / $10.49 = $45 million both to reward him upfront and to preserve maximum flexibility in the future.
doubt it, because that extra 1.5ish million would all be above the luxury tax limit.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm hoping they've frontloaded his contract: $12.04 / $11.50 / $10.98 / $10.49 = $45 million both to reward him upfront and to preserve maximum flexibility in the future.

Its not.

It's 10.00 / 10.75 / 11.5 / 12.25

[TXstbobcat]

Great deal for the Spurs. Also glad that verde got to cash in with a nice contract.

Now that he got seriously paid, it's Time for Verde to go shopping :convertib

[Mr. Body]

The underrated signing of the off-season. Duncan's generosity is and has been key for years and is on another level. On a basketball level, Danny's resigning changes everything. Or actually makes sure nothing changes. What happens if he takes the money the market was giving him? We'd be totally screwed, forcing to play Manu or Kyle or Simm City or some stopgap player at the 2, with a terrible bench.

[Fireball]

losing both Splitter and Green would have killed the Spurs defense ... I doubt Aldridge's offense would have been enough to make that up

[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)Danny Green's deal with the San Antonio Spurs is $10 mil flat each season, 4 years, last a player option @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)

[dabom]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)Danny Green's deal with the San Antonio Spurs is $10 mil flat each season, 4 years, last a player option @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)



Danny a fucking hero in my book. Someone give this man a fucking medal of honor. :hat

[Uriel]

So it's 40M instead of 45? Green took an even bigger paycut than initially reported. :wow

[dabom]

I predicted the spurs should give him 10mil a year. Dam I'm good.

[timtonymanu]

:lol some morons on here didn't even think he was worth 10 million a year.

[Mugen]

:wow Danny turned down 20mil tbh

Holt better be payin' this nigga under the table because the Spurs are getting away with highway robbery if not....

[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)I still have to go through some of the salaries I posted for incentives - those are cap numbers based on what is un/likely @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)

[look_at_g_shred]

:lol some morons on here didn't even think he was worth 10 million a year.

[timvp]

OMG, Green only got $40 million over four years?

[AFBlue]

:wow

[Spur|n|Austin]

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[spursistan]

fucking if Danny Green made himself available Marc Cuban would give him 14-15$M just to spite the Spurs..This is new level highway robbery in the current market and can only happen because of the Spurs Org magnetic pull to players with DG character..Thanks Danny once more..

[Aztecfan03]

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wtf is Bow Wow doing? That's him in the driver's seat right?

[baseline bum]

:wow Danny turned down 20mil tbh

Holt better be payin' this nigga under the table because the Spurs are getting away with highway robbery if not....

$30 million if you look at what Cuban paid Matthews.

[exstatic]

I'm hoping they've frontloaded his contract: $12.04 / $11.50 / $10.98 / $10.49 = $45 million both to reward him upfront and to preserve maximum flexibility in the future.

That's a scenario for a steady or slow growing cap. Not the case.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Explains why the Spurs have been looking for a 14th and possibly a 15th man. They'll prob end up a dollar under the tax :lol

[Bruno]

Wow, $40M. What a bargain in this current market. Props to Danny. :tu

The flat structure is also noteworthy. First, it could means that Spurs aren't that interested in going under the tax this season. Second, it will give Spurs a little more capspace to rebuild in the post Duncan/Ginobili erea. Well, assuming Tim retires one day...

[b23]

Wow. Danny is officially the man. I hope he's getting something on the backend because that's absurd.

[Chinook]

Feel like it's gone from generous to absurd. No reason not to take max raises. The Spurs didn't need the money. I guess they're promising him Spur-for-life status or something.

[dgspursforlife]

Wow. The Spurs probably got the biggest colllection of steals in this off-season, tbh
I mean with Timmy, Manu, West and Green all taking major discounts other teams fans and GMs must be mad as fuck

[cjw]

That's a scenario for a steady or slow growing cap. Not the case.

Didn't realize a reducing salary would have bumped them over the luxury tax in year 1. But no reason not to frontload deals to create maximum flexibility in the future. Plus if I'm a player, I don't mind getting the money now. Then again, could argue why would Peter Holt want to front the money now unless there's tangible benefit (beyond having another $500k to $1.5mm of added cap space in outer years)?



Wow, $40M. What a bargain in this current market. Props to Danny. :tu

The flat structure is also noteworthy. First, it could means that Spurs aren't that interested in going under the tax this season. Second, it will give Spurs a little more capspace to rebuild in the post Duncan/Ginobili erea. Well, assuming Tim retires one day...

The fact that the Nets essentially went from being a huge tax payer to a non-payer, plus Golden State shedding Lee and stretching Gerald Wallace (don't think they could stretch Lee), and with the higher than expected jump in the salary cap, being OUT of the tax isn't as attractive as it might have initially appeared. Yes, Cleveland is a huge taxpayer but don't think they're a repeater this year.

[Mal]

Danny is the man tbh

[Mugen]

Feel like it's gone from generous to absurd. No reason not to take max raises. The Spurs didn't need the money. I guess they're promising him Spur-for-life status or something.

Yeah, honestly that's ridiculous. He's in the prime of his career, no reason he had to take such a ridic paycut like Tim and DWest.

The franchise better take care of Danny. He's already repaid them in full for rescuing him from the DLeague. He doesn't owe the franchise anymore.

[el contusione]

Its amazing to see how the Spurs can convince players to take less money to stay in San Antonio. What kind of magic trick do they have?!! Tim, Tony, and Manu have been taking less money their whole career. Then we have guys like LMA, DWest and DGreen.. No wonder we have a shot at winning a championship every year because we get guys who only care about winning. It makes me appreciate these guys more and more.

[Bruno]

The fact that the Nets essentially went from being a huge tax payer to a non-payer, plus Golden State shedding Lee and stretching Gerald Wallace (don't think they could stretch Lee), and with the higher than expected jump in the salary cap, being OUT of the tax isn't as attractive as it might have initially appeared. Yes, Cleveland is a huge taxpayer but don't think they're a repeater this year.

Aside of Spurs, 6 teams should pay the luxury tax: Thunder ($20M), Heat ($22M), Clippers ($17M), Warriors ($22M), Bulls ($6M) and Cavs (maybe $60M). It's a total of $147M which means that if Spurs go under the tax, they will receive about $3M in tax money distribution.
Spurs' ownership might have given the green light not to care about these $3M but it's still a significant sum. I guess getting Aldridge and the mammoth future TV contract with Spurs not fearing going into tax territory next season could entice ownership not to care too much about that money.
Spurs' ownership has never seemed to really care about making at much money as possible. It seems that their main goal is not to lose money. Spurs are lucky not to have someone like OKC's owner at their helm.

[024]

Green should not be taking less money... it's not like the extra $1-2 million in cap savings will be a significant difference with the cap shooting up. I understand the rationale of Green wanting to give back to the organization after they turned him from a d-league player to an 8 figure salary earner but he already took a huge discount at $45 million. Why take a bigger cut to save money for the already rich owners?

[spurraider21]

:lmao green and shumpert have the same contract

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lmao green and shumpert have the same contract

Why so funny???

There were people on here suggesting the Spurs trade Green and Diaw for Shumpert.

[TXstbobcat]

Wow! Verde showing some serious loyalty to the spurs!

[tmtcsc]

Pfft, you think Green sacrificed? Pop agreed to TRY and not yell at him so much. Let that sink in for a moment and then tell me who really sacrificed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFFvShURQ5k

[cd98]

Green is ultimate team guy in this scenario. I'll have a hard time saying a critical word about this guy. He is as good an example as there is of Spur material.

[spursistan]

Let it sink in folks: aL Faruq freaking Aminu is getting just 2.5$ million per-year less than Danny Green, the greatest 3PT shooter in a single NBA Finals series :wow..

[Dex]

Wow, $40M. What a bargain in this current market. Props to Danny. :tu

The flat structure is also noteworthy. First, it could means that Spurs aren't that interested in going under the tax this season. Second, it will give Spurs a little more capspace to rebuild in the post Duncan/Ginobili erea. Well, assuming Tim retires one day...

:lol

It's all been said, but major props to Danny.

If we think $10M looks like a bargain now, wait until a few years when the cap explodes and players of a similar caliber will probably be making double that.

[Dex]

Why so funny???

There were people on here suggesting the Spurs trade Green and Diaw for Shumpert.

Yeahh....we like to call those people "idiots".

[spursgu]

Pfft, you think Green sacrificed? Pop agreed to TRY and not yell at him so much. Let that sink in for a moment and then tell me who really sacrificed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFFvShURQ5k

I don't actually believe that. Green is going to make head scratching mistakes no matter what and Pop will yell at his ass again. Even so, looking at other contracts that have been offered, it's pretty obvious that Green left a lot of money on the table to come back to the Spurs on a discount.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Yeahh....we like to call those people "idiots."
Fixed. The period goes inside the quotation mark.

[Richie]

Perhaps he took the extra pay cut to get a player option in his 4th year?

[Chinook]

Perhaps he took the extra pay cut to get a player option in his 4th year?

It does now coincide with Parker's contract and LMA's option. 2018 may well be a rebuilding year for the club.

[Chinook]

Though 2017 may be another off-season like this one.

[spursistan]

It does now coincide with Parker's contract and LMA's option. 2018 may well be a rebuilding year for the club.
more like retooling year (s) :lol.. With Kawhi in peak years and Aldridge settled in but with Timmy/Manu surely gone and maybe even Parker we won't be title contenders but a 48-52, 6-8 seed type of Pop-coached team..

[Richie]

Though 2017 may be another off-season like this one.

2017 is the big one as we'll have max cap room again, but I'm not sure there will be many big time free agents moving that summer. If Durant and Westbrook leave, Ibaka would be a good player to pick up and he would fit well with Aldridge. Really it's way too far ahead to be thinking about it.

Next summer could be really interesting depending on how much salary Manu and Timmy take up. We might be able to get Batum at a discount with Aldridge and the french connection but unlikely we'll be able to afford him.

[Mnky]

Danny said himself money isn't everything. He wants to win and be on a legitimate contender. He knows his role and he's happy with, plus a chance of legacy plus getting paid for it in a city he loves working with people he considers family. He bought happiness with his pay cut and he's still a multi millionaire starting on a NBA contender when at one point he couldn't stay in the NBA. Guy knows what he wants, and he appreciates his blessings. He said on his instagram how thankful he was for his position and his raise.

Good Guy Danny.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

more like retooling year (s) :lol.. With Kawhi in peak years and Aldridge settled in but with Timmy/Manu surely gone and maybe even Parker we won't be title contenders but a 48-52, 6-8 seed type of Pop-coached team..
Yeah we don't do rebuilding. Too long of that shit and everyone will stop caring, lobbying for a football team and the Spurs will move and become something else. It's too bad Davis is off the table long-term now. Maybe we can lure in a star with our cap space once TD/Manu are gone though.

[YGWHI]

Next summer could be really interesting depending on how much salary Manu and Timmy take up. We might be able to get Batum at a discount with Aldridge and the french connection but unlikely we'll be able to afford him.

Batum and Diaw as playmakers with the second unit will be fantastic but I'm not sure if Nic is willing to come off the bench.

[BatManu20]

Hopefully Danny is a Spur for life. He's easily one of my favorite Spurs. Also got to meet him in Austin 2 years ago at a Texas-UNC game and he was super friendly. Love that guy.

[Uriel]

2017 is the big one as we'll have max cap room again, but I'm not sure there will be many big time free agents moving that summer. If Durant and Westbrook leave, Ibaka would be a good player to pick up and he would fit well with Aldridge. Really it's way too far ahead to be thinking about it.

Next summer could be really interesting depending on how much salary Manu and Timmy take up. We might be able to get Batum at a discount with Aldridge and the french connection but unlikely we'll be able to afford him.
IIRC, with the cap to explode next summer, virtually every team in the league will have max cap room?

[Richie]

IIRC, with the cap to explode next summer, virtually every team in the league will have max cap room?

Next summer most teams will have cap room but I'm not sure how many will actually have room to add a max player. Most lottery teams will but in terms of contenders I don't think many will have max room. Assuming Timmy/Manu retires and doesn't take any salary next year, we could have $13.5m next summer and near $40m in 2017.

In 2017 I think at least 20 teams will have space to add a max guy at which point it'll be crazy.

[spurraider21]

keep in mind as the cap goes up, the max slot grows with it, as its a % of the cap

[Shabazz]

Danny likes to win championships... And he is extremely loyal to the coaches who have gone the extra mile to help him succeed.

Suspect he intends to stick with the Spurs for a long time.

[Dex]

Fixed. The period goes inside the quotation mark.

Good to know. Thanks Teach.

[Astray]

Danny got fucking screwed. Hopefully the Spurs give him the money he deserves next time.

[kobyz]

Danny should have gave the Spurs more discount, compensation for his bad defense on CP3 on that last play in game 7 that cost the Spurs the last season title...

[Brox6]

Is this another "wink-wink" deal?

[AFBlue]

Danny should have gave the Spurs more discount, compensation for his bad defense on CP3 on that last play in game 7 that cost the Spurs the last season title...

0/10

[Mark in Austin]

Actually more shocked by Verde's salary than West's. Green @ a flat $10M/season is ridiculous. My guess is he traded the yearly escalations for the fourth year opt out, which also seems like a new development.

[TXstbobcat]

Danny should have gave the Spurs more discount, compensation for his bad defense on CP3 on that last play in game 7 that cost the Spurs the last season title...

He gave the Spurs more of a discount than any of us would have ever expected and probably left $20 to $30 million on the table to help the Spurs.

[ace3g]

Green returns to UNC to teach hoops, humility to young campers
Read more at http://www.wralsportsfan.com/green-returns-to-unc-to-teach-hoops-humility-to-young-campers/14781216/#Qw5m5XPIdXeIEzGd.99

[Shabazz]

Green returns to UNC to teach hoops, humility to young campers
Read more at http://www.wralsportsfan.com/green-returns-to-unc-to-teach-hoops-humility-to-young-campers/14781216/#Qw5m5XPIdXeIEzGd.99


:bobo

[Vic Petro]

Green now has a championship ring and an eight-figure annual salary. So what's left to accomplish? "There's still goals to achieve," he said. "I'm just getting started.""I still want to play for an Olympic team. I still want to get a gold medal. I still want more championship rings. I want to be one of the greats, try to be a Hall of Famer. But to get a raise for a job that you already thought was the greatest in the world, you can't ask for more."

:cry

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/north-babylon-native-danny-green-becomes-new-big-shot-in-nba-1.10668576

[BillMc]

Green returns to UNC to teach hoops, humility to young campers
Read more at http://www.wralsportsfan.com/green-returns-to-unc-to-teach-hoops-humility-to-young-campers/14781216/#Qw5m5XPIdXeIEzGd.99
:toast

[T Park]

Green has turned into the quote unquote typical spur. Class all around.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs (https://www.facebook.com/Spurs?fref=nf)
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What has Danny been up to this off-season? Rachel sat down with him find out.

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[TXstbobcat]

Verde is such a class act. Happy that he will be a Spur for a several more seasons!!!

[bic50]

Green is good people.

[8FOR!3]

I think Green's humbled by how he became a legit NBA player. I honestly think the Spurs organization cares about their players' futures and even if Green dropped as a player this current contract, he'd be a part of the organization in some way or another if he needed or wanted to. Loyalty begets loyalty.

[Axegrinder]

DG just an all around quality dude. Proud he remains a Spur

[spursistan]

bump...

751124907312844800

still a ridiculous bargain deal :hat..

[BillMc]

bump...

751124907312844800

still a ridiculous bargain deal :hat..

Exactly.

[poeticism707]

bump...

751124907312844800

still a ridiculous bargain deal :hat..

DG wasn't even worth the minimum

last two years...

[tonight...you]

DG wasn't even worth the minimum

last two years...
Explain that statement while not being stupid and emotional, please.

[cd98]

One of the most valuable contracts on the team. His quality at pre-2016 price.

[Kikoluna]

In the current nba, this is a great contract.

[spursistan]

this contract, tbh :lol..Danny can have another putrid shooting season and he would only be a 3rd or 4th most overpaid dude in the team as long his D holds up..

[tholdren]

this contract, tbh :lol..Danny can have another putrid shooting season and he would only be a 3rd or 4th most overpaid dude in the team as long his D holds up..
i do not agree with this statement

[Steve-O-Matic]

It's not a good contract. If you're making as much or more in millions per season than your PER, it's not a good contract. Steph Curry will only make $2.1M more than Danny Green next season. THAT is a good contract.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's not a good contract. If you're making as much or more in millions per season than your PER, it's not a good contract. Steph Curry will only make $2.1M more than Danny Green next season. THAT is a good contract.

Even ignoring the fact that PER is a terrible stat, it should never be used to rate low-usage perimeter players, tbh..see: Bowen, Battier, role player Iguodala, etc..

[TheGreatYacht]

Worst contract in Spurs history tbh :lol

[SuperCam]

Worst contract in Spurs history tbh :lol


only the third worst now, but still :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

only the third worst now, but still :lol
Holy fucking shit :lmao great bump tbh

Still not sure who the bigger waste of life is between him, Flabby mills, and Kylie Andershit

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Terrible posters and their terrible takes, tbh. :lol

[Ice009]

Spurs need to make some trades. Like the draft and off-season, I'd have no problem including Danny in trade packages if that brings back someone more consistent on offense that can create a little bit and score on his own.

[TheGreatYacht]

^^^

Terrible posters and their terrible takes, tbh. :lol
100+ pages of Jimmer :lmao

What a virgin lmfaoooooo

[Spurtacular]

:cry Yea, I'm as shitty as it gets :cry

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs need to make some trades. Like the draft and off-season, I'd have no problem including Danny in trade packages if that brings back someone more consistent on offense that can create a little bit and score on his own.
The days of Danny Green having trade value are long gone. He's more of a throw in guy to match salaries and push trades through. Most teams would probably be unwilling to trade their scrubs to get one in return. I mean, what's the point? Who would it benefit?

[objective]

If the Spurs had done the right thing and kept Simmons at $6 million, they'd be able to move on from Green and even though he's not as reliable a shooter he's a great penetrator and defender.

Instead, as easily foreseeable, they're screwed:

No cap room to sign a replacement even half as good as Simmons would have been.

And they might have to give Green another big deal now that he's on the wrong side of 30.

It'll be awesome to have Mills and Green soaking up $25-30 million in cap when neither can create for themselves or others and are in their 30s. At least Green can defend ... for now. Once that falls off ....

[Hoops Czar]

he's a great penetrator and defender.

If you meant he's great at getting penetrated and his offense turns into bad defense, I agree.

[venitian navigator]

The bad thing about Green is he can't create offense...the point is that the same exact problem is the one of Mills (with the difference that the latter is supposed to play point guard).
Ther's a reason why our offense looks instantly better when TP comes in the game, and it's not only because he's in the system from the beginning...it's that he has developed playmaking skills from the beginning of his career. Mills, Green, Forbes and Murray didn't do that...and the only one with some time to develop something is the latter (but, till now, the impression is that he's not a natural at passing the ball and play at the right pace and reading defenses).
For as awful as it can seem, the only real play makers we have on this team are two old guys (TP and Manu) and KA (for obvious reasons i'm taking White in considertion)...but, differently than Simmons, KA, for some reasons, has been considered impossible to be played in his natural role.

[r0drig0lac]

No cap room to sign a replacement even half as good as Simmons would have been.


some people who really understand the game already knew that, but...culture

[Chinook]

Pretty odd to call out a guy who's making less than a tenth of the cap while shooting decently and likely to get All-Defense for his second straight season. Even more odd to want Simmons over him considering the dumpster fire Jon has been this year. Unforgivably odd when Jon didn't want to return to SA in the first place.

[Raven]

he's also coming from injury. It's time to step up though, he's needed.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pretty odd to call out a guy who's making less than a tenth of the cap while shooting decently and likely to get All-Defense for his second straight season. Even more odd to want Simmons over him considering the dumpster fire Jon has been this year. Unforgivably odd when Jon didn't want to return to SA in the first place.
:lmao

None of these are even close to being remotely true. Show me a stat that shows him even being a Top 4 defender on THE TEAM, go for it. I'll give him this.... he is shooting the backboard, front and back of the rim at a pretty decent rate though

[Chinook]

:lmao

None of these are even close to being remotely true. Show me a stat that shows him even being a Top 4 defender on THE TEAM, go for it. I'll give him this.... he is shooting the backboard, front and back of the rim at a pretty decent rate though

You haven't done your Clip Art shooting splits recently because you don't like how they look. Anyway, it doesn't matter what the stats say, since I didn't mention them. The reason why he's likely for an All-Defense team is because the Spurs have the first or second ranked D without Kawhi, and Green's the only guy on the team who has a good defensive rep besides Kawhi. It also doesn't hurt that Danny is on pace to average a block and steal per game, which isn't something guards do very often.

But let me guess: You expect Anderson or Gasol to get All-D nods instead.

[Raven]

You haven't done your Clip Art shooting splits recently because you don't like how they look. Anyway, it doesn't matter what the stats say, since I didn't mention them. The reason why he's likely for an All-Defense team is because the Spurs have the first or second ranked D without Kawhi, and Green's the only guy on the team who has a good defensive rep besides Kawhi. It also doesn't hurt that Danny is on pace to average a block and steal per game, which isn't something guards do very often.

But let me guess: You expect Anderson or Gasol to get All-D nods instead.

it's actually shocking how few guards are capable of this

[SAGirl]

Anderson should get some buzz on defensive teams. I figure the fact he is an unknown will screw him over. When he's not on top of his game on defense the team isn't the same. (Since Kiwi isn't playing and the team has a bunch of undersized guards playing wing positions.)

[SAGirl]

Danny has been in a shooting slump the last 8 games or so last time I looked. It has coincided with others being in slumps too, and questionable shot selection. He's had some bad forced heaves... Spurs offense has not been generating consistent good looks. He does need to pick up his level of play. Others too.

[Mikeanaro]

Its taking an eternity, tbfh.

[ElNono]

Danny has been in a shooting slump

How many times we heard this in the last 3 years? :lol

I'm actually glad he worked some on his handles and he's able to do drive some without completely turning the ball over. He should do more of that.

[cjw]

it's actually shocking how few guards are capable of this

Green’s blocking ability is all-time good for a guard. Included F-G in this list for comparison so you have context (Giannis, Durant and Dr. J, etc.). Above even Wade:

http://bkref.com/tiny/Skckz

(in before SA Girl brings up how good Kyle is on the list)

Having an elite defensive guard to pair with an elite rebounding, athletic PG will create fits when/if Kawhi is back to his old self.

[LittleCriminal]

(in before SA Girl brings up how good Kyle is on the list)

https://camo.githubusercontent.com/28fa407a8fa8db3dcea88809e90d05671da7b8fe/68747470733a2f2f6d656469612e67697068792e636f6d2f6d 656469612f524c39595558674436613364752f67697068792e 676966

[palangi]

Pretty odd to call out a guy who's making less than a tenth of the cap while shooting decently and likely to get All-Defense for his second straight season. Even more odd to want Simmons over him considering the dumpster fire Jon has been this year. Unforgivably odd when Jon didn't want to return to SA in the first place.

That's because Danny is irreplaceable

[dbestpro]

Danny is a great player to have when playing with other great players, but cannot do enough with average talent.

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny is a great player to have when playing with other great players, but cannot do enough with average talent.
Na. Clanked open shots are clanked open shots. He gets plenty of open looks the scrub is just league average now at his only specialty on offense.

As for the defense.... anybody can funnel their guy to the paint.

[objective]

Pretty odd to call out a guy who's making less than a tenth of the cap while shooting decently and likely to get All-Defense for his second straight season. Even more odd to want Simmons over him considering the dumpster fire Jon has been this year. Unforgivably odd when Jon didn't want to return to SA in the first place.

I'm not 'calling out' Green, I'm discussing the scenarios of his free agency and the implications of that free agency result. And seeing that this thread was about his last deal, it seemed as good as any to discuss his next contract.

And if you think Simmons has been a dumpster fire with that salary ... Well, didn't you also like the Mills deal on July 1?

And I still keep seeing this "he didn't want to play here!" excuse and it's just weird to read.

What was he supposed to tell the media? "I hate having to sign to come off the bench for a crappy lottery team instead of a team from the WCF, but the Spurs refused to give me any money and now I'm stuck. I hate Orlando, but I had to get at least a little money in my career no matter who it's with.".

Of course he's going to spin that he wanted to spread his wings.

[Chinook]

I'm not 'calling out' Green, I'm discussing the scenarios of his free agency and the implications of that free agency result. And seeing that this thread was about his last deal, it seemed as good as any to discuss his next contract.

I don't see why you felt the need to address that part of my post. It didn't apply to you. If I had meant to respond to your view exclusively, I would have quoted you. The only reason why this thread is on the first page is because people felt the need to call him out.


And if you think Simmons has been a dumpster fire with that salary ... Well, didn't you also like the Mills deal on July 1?

I'm a bit confused by this. I said nothing about his salary. He's been a dumpster fire because he's a mostly shitty player. He'd be a shitty player at the min too. It's just who he is. The second half is a misplaced ad homenim. I could have been incorrect in predicting Mills' future value but correct in Simmons' current value. Anyways, I updated my view of the Mills deal in a recent thread either yesterday or the day before. I actually don't think much has changed when looking at the deal landscape in July compared to now.


And I still keep seeing this "he didn't want to play here!" excuse and it's just weird to read.

What was he supposed to tell the media? "I hate having to sign to come off the bench for a crappy lottery team instead of a team from the WCF, but the Spurs refused to give me any money and now I'm stuck. I hate Orlando, but I had to get at least a little money in my career no matter who it's with.".


Of course he's going to spin that he wanted to spread his wings.

You have to know this is baseless speculation. You're projecting into him views that you want to see. Simmons was pissed that the Spurs backed out of the Suns S&T before (as far as everything reported) he asked the Spurs to withdraw his QO so he could go where he wanted. It might surprise you, but some guys would rather be big fish in small ponds. LMA almost picked Phoenix because of touches. Numerous free agents turned down the Spurs over the years for comparable or inferior deals elsewhere. Do I think money was involved? Yes. I do think had the Spurs offered more than Orlando, Simmons would have come back. Dude has a family to think about. But I also think role was the bigger part, and the lack of respect he felt by being little more than a contingency plan for a Green trade and not the new starting SG by default.

Personally, I didn't want Simmons back really at any price. Had Danny been dealt, I would have seen Simmons as a way to fill the roster with limited resources. But Gay is a massive upgrade to Simmons, and contract-year Kyle has been consistently better than anything but the absolute best/lucky Jonathon. They miss Gay and Kawhi, not Simmons. Jon is off being the fringe-NBA player he was always meant to be without a stronger supporting cast to put him in position to succeed.

[spursistan]

Green is such A low hanging fruit for the desperate, frustrated and deflecting fan..:lol

DG is not the Spurs problemPERIOD

[duncan2k5]

ive been saying this since last year, and ppl keep saying im a shit poster, until they realize what ive been saying...Danny Green isnt as good as many of you think he is...and Simmons is DEFINITELY worth more than Green given their ages and talent level...but every 30 games or so, Green has an amazing performance that solidifies him in the minds of ppl on here and apparently our FO, so he gets to stay on the team for another year...

[Ice009]

I don't have a problem with Green or his current contract as it looks like he worked hard in the summer to come back with some new elements to his game. I was just saying that if the Spurs included him in a trade package to get back someone how might shore up some of the team's weaknesses, I wouldn't have a problem trading him. I also don't want the Spurs to overpay if they intend to bring him back next season.

[TheGreatYacht]

Green is such A low hanging fruit for the desperate, frustrated and deflecting fan..:lol

DG is not the Spurs problemPERIOD
When you've produced 0.0 offensive win shares thru 40 games this season, have the lowest OBPM of your career, and clank as many open shots as he's had.... you're going to get called out bro :lol

I've never seen a player more protected on this board than this scrub. It's truly amazing lmfao.

[Chinook]

I don't have a problem with Green or his current contract as it looks like he worked hard in the summer to come back with some new elements to his game. I was just saying that if the Spurs included him in a trade package to get back someone how might shore up some of the team's weaknesses, I wouldn't have a problem trading him. I also don't want the Spurs to overpay if they intend to bring him back next season.

What is so odd is that the Spurs were clearly banking on moving Green for someone last year. From the White pick to the Paul acquisition to keeping Simmons on a chain. I think it would have been a bad move. But if they were going to put all their eggs in that basket, they damned should have done something with it.

[TD 21]

Green is such A low hanging fruit for the desperate, frustrated and deflecting fan..:lol

DG is not the Spurs problemPERIOD

I agree, but the lack of a drive and kick player can't fully explain away his inexplicable drop in 3-point shooting the past 2+ seasons. Between that and the advancing age, Spurs should hold firm at Mills money, with at most a partially guaranteed 4th season.

[duncan2k5]

I agree, but the lack of a drive and kick player can't fully explain away his inexplicable drop in 3-point shooting the past 2+ seasons. Between that and the advancing age, Spurs should hold firm at Mills money, with at most a partially guaranteed 4th season.

hell no! he is not worth that...a good game shouldnt be a pleasant surprise at his age and experience level...let him walk

[TheGreatYacht]

hell no! he is not worth that...a good game shouldnt be a pleasant surprise at his age and experience level...let him walk

[DPG21920]

hell no! he is not worth that...a good game shouldnt be a pleasant surprise at his age and experience level...let him walk

What I find hilarious is how the same people bashing Danny are the same people advocating for Murray :lol. They argue that even tough Murray grades out as literally one of the worst offensive guards in the NBA (not hyperbole) that his defense and rebounding make him more valuable.

Then they argue the EXACT opposite for Danny :lol

[ElNono]

What I find hilarious is how the same people bashing Danny are the same people advocating for Murray :lol. They argue that even tough Murray grades out as literally one of the worst offensive guards in the NBA (not hyperbole) that his defense and rebounding make him more valuable.

Then they argue the EXACT opposite for Danny :lol

Playing devil's advocate, Murray just got started in this league. Danny, on the other hand, has been around a while, and you have to legitimately wonder if this is his ceiling, and what that ceiling is really worth.

When he got his current contract, peeps talked about hometown discount, but considering his overall performance during said contract, I'll have to say it's right on the money.

[dabom]

Playing devil's advocate, Murray just got started in this league. Danny, on the other hand, has been around a while, and you have to legitimately wonder if this is his ceiling, and what that ceiling is really worth.

When he got his current contract, peeps talked about hometown discount, but considering his overall performance during said contract, I'll have to say it's right on the money.

I beat you by one minute. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Agree 100% with Nono.

[ElNono]

I beat you by one minute. :lol

:tu

[DPG21920]

Playing devil's advocate, Murray just got started in this league. Danny, on the other hand, has been around a while, and you have to legitimately wonder if this is his ceiling, and what that ceiling is really worth.

When he got his current contract, peeps talked about hometown discount, but considering his overall performance during said contract, I'll have to say it's right on the money.

Discount is relative to the market though. There are guys that got more money than Danny who not only struggle offensively but didn’t make an All NBA Defensive team after the contract

[ElNono]

Discount is relative to the market though. There are guys that got more money than Danny who not only struggle offensively but didn’t make an All NBA Defensive team after the contract

There's bad contracts all over the league. That's why you re-evaluate whenever a contract is up. This always has been a 'what have you done for me lately' league, Patty notwithstanding...

[DPG21920]

There's bad contracts all over the league. That's why you re-evaluate whenever a contract is up. This always has been a 'what have you done for me lately' league, Patty notwithstanding...

I get that, but the only people saying it was a bargain were people at the time it was signed. Even after the fact (like last year) getting an all nba defensive player for that money is considered pretty good. So on all levels.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol reputation awards

Not even a Top 4 defender on this team (stats back that up)

[duncan2k5]

:lol reputation awards

Not even a Top 4 defender on this team (stats back that up)

[duncan2k5]

Playing devil's advocate, Murray just got started in this league. Danny, on the other hand, has been around a while, and you have to legitimately wonder if this is his ceiling, and what that ceiling is really worth.

When he got his current contract, peeps talked about hometown discount, but considering his overall performance during said contract, I'll have to say it's right on the money.

exactly...if Murray was 30 years old playing like this, then that's another story...

[DPG21920]

:lol reputation awards

Not even a Top 4 defender on this team (stats back that up)

I mean, what? On all levels what.

[Chinook]

D2k5 trying to pimp for stats against Green but lambasted the exact same stats when they suggested Simmons was shitty.

[TheGreatYacht]

Chinook trying to pimp for stats against Simmons but lambasted the exact same stats when they suggested Green was shitty.

[Chinook]

The difference, Clip Art is that Green's stats are still elite, even if they are lower than Pau, elite difference-maker Kyle and Murray. Simmons' are objectively shitty. Try to keep up.

[TheGreatYacht]

I mean, what? On all levels what.
Stats, son. Look them up.

Green isn't a Top 4 defender on this team much less a Top 10 defender in the league.

[spurraider21]

shot 45% from 3 in the finals the year after setting an NBA finals record for 3's made... good enough for me if that's his ceiling

[TheGreatYacht]

My god, worst talent evaluator on Spurstalk and RealGM trying to test me? This is a battle you can't win. Stick to discussing the cap, seriously....

[TheGreatYacht]

shot 45% from 3 in the finals the year after setting an NBA finals record for 3's made... good enough for me if that's his ceiling
Yeah that was his ceiling and a great one. Unfortunately post-contract Green is one of the worst starting shooting guards in the league. Average (at best) at his only specialty on offense. Sad.

2017/2018 league average 3P% - 36.2%
Danny Green post-contract 3P% - 35.8%

The worst thing Buford can do is extend a player that's aging like milk.

[Chinook]

My god, worst talent evaluator on Spurstalk and RealGM trying to test me? This is a battle you can't win. Stick to discussing the cap, seriously....

Trying shitty ad homenims instead of just looking at the stats league-wide.

[DPG21920]

Trying shitty ad homenims instead of just looking at the stats league-wide.

I hate people

[SuperCam]

Yeah that was his ceiling and a great one. Unfortunately post-contract Green is one of the worst starting shooting guards in the league. Average (at best) at his only specialty on offense. Sad.

2017/2018 league average 3P% - 36.2%
Danny Green post-contract 3P% - 35.8%

The worst thing Buford can do is extend a player that's aging like milk.


can't :downspin:that slurpers

[TheGreatYacht]

Trying shitty ad homenims instead of just looking at the stats league-wide.
That's rich coming from the retard who's trying make "clip art" a thing.

Look son, I'm bringing facts to the table here and those facts are Green isnt a Top-4 defender on the team, he's a below average 3P shooter, and he's literally provided the team with 0.0!!!!! Offensive win shares. Disgusting stuff from the easily replaceable scrub....

[TheGreatYacht]

I hate people
I hate homers.

[DPG21920]

That's rich coming from the retard who's trying make "clip art" a thing.

Look son, I'm bringing facts to the table here and those facts are Green isnt a Top-4 defender on the team, he's a below average 3P shooter, and he's literally provided the team with 0.0!!!!! Offensive win shares. Disgusting stuff from the easily replaceable scrub....

Danny crapping on you in real time lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny crapping on you in real time lol
15-33 Kings :lol

Joffrey got a block last game, maybe I should quote all his haters. Nice deflection though kid.

[weeks]

That's rich coming from the retard who's trying make "clip art" a thing.

Look son, I'm bringing facts to the table here and those facts are Green isnt a Top-4 defender on the team he's a below average 3P shooter, and he's literally provided the team with 0.0!!!!! Offensive win shares. Disgusting stuff from the easily replaceable scrub....
i was about to disagree with this but thinking about it, it probably looks like this?

1)Kawhi
2)LMA
3)Pau
4)Murray? Anderson??

[TheGreatYacht]

i was about to disagree with this but thinking about it, it probably looks like this?

1)Kawhi
2)LMA
3)Pau
4)Murray? Anderson??
Seems about right tbh and the stats agree with you

[Chinook]

That's rich coming from the retard who's trying make "clip art" a thing..

Dumbass can't even tell the difference between an ad homenim and an insult.

Green is a top-15 perimeter player (meaning PGs to combo-forwards) in every defensive stat despite playing like a third of his games with a groin injury that limited his movement and elevation. If you weren't so lazy, you'd've been able to see that. This "top-four" thing does nothing but demonstrate your lack of understanding about how defensive stats work.

[DPG21920]

Dumbass can't even tell the difference between an ad homenim and an insult.

Green is a top-15 perimeter player (meaning PGs to combo-forwards) in every defensive stat. If you weren't so lazy, you'd've been able to see that. This "top-four" thing does nothing but demonstrate your lack of understanding about how defensive stats work.

He knows that just being dumb

[TheGreatYacht]

Dumbass can't even tell the difference between an ad homenim and an insult.

Green is a top-15 perimeter player (meaning PGs to combo-forwards) in every defensive stat. If you weren't so lazy, you'd've been able to see that. This "top-four" thing does nothing but demonstrate your lack of understanding about how defensive stats work.
"One of the worst offensive starters in the league.... but at least he's a Top-15 perimeter defender" :lol

Listen, dipshit. He's the 5th best defender on the team this year no matter how much you try to discredit that. He's replaceable and one last thing..... He ain't coming back unless he opts in to that player option.

[Chinook]

"One of the worst offensive starters in the league.... but at least he's a Top-15 perimeter defender" :lol

Listen, dipshit. He's the 5th best defender on the team this year no matter how much you try to discredit that. He's replaceable and one last thing..... He ain't coming back unless he opts in to that player option.

Melting down because you couldn't read a list properly. Pathetic. I can understand you know comprehending defensive stats. A lot of folks have a hard time understanding them if they don't actually look up their formulae and methodology. I'm having a hard time overlooking how petulant you sound right now.

:cry Plz Pop take Green away next summer. I'm tired of being shellacked by his LD. :cry

You should probably wait for your circle-jerk krew to come to your aid so you guys can quote each other to pump up your self-esteem.

[TheGreatYacht]

Melting down because you couldn't read a list properly. Pathetic. I can understand you know comprehending defensive stats. A lot of folks have a hard time understanding them if they don't actually look up their formulae and methodology. I'm having a hard time overlooking how petulant you sound right now.

:cry Plz Pop take Green away next summer. I'm tired of being shellacked by his LD. :cry

You should probably wait for your circle-jerk krew to come to your aid so you guys can quote each other to pump up your self-esteem.
Yeah he's really showing me with his below average 3p%, shit handles, and cum dumpster defense.

Everyone knows you're the last go-to guy to evaluating talent. That's fine though, at least you have your girl alt and DPG sucking you up while standing up.

Don't ever come at the best again.

[DPG21920]

You are socially awkward

[TheGreatYacht]

You're 4'8 standing up.

[Chinook]

Yeah he's really showing me with his below average 3p%, shit handles, and cum dumpster defense.

Everyone knows you're the last go-to guy to evaluating talent. That's fine though, at least you have your girl alt and DPG sucking you up while standing up.

Don't ever come at the best again.

:lol resorted to the "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. Just getting worse with each passing post, man. At this point, I kinda hope Danny gets traded just to get you out of this spiral. Imagine how desperate you have to be to pimp Kyle Anderson just to try to shit on Green.

[benefactor]

You're 4'8 standing up.
Still better than autism tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol resorted to the "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. Just getting worse with each passing post, man.
When the retard you're arguing with has nothing of substance to say and stoops down to ":cry _____ :cry" posts.... there's no need to try

[DPG21920]

You're 4'8 standing up.

Sure but i can’t control that. What’s your excuse for being so dumb

[TheGreatYacht]

Still better than autism tbh
Sorry about that.

[Chinook]

When the retard you're arguing with has nothing of substance to say and stoops down to ":cry _____ :cry" posts.... there's no need to try

Doing it again. You're somehow copying both of us at the same time now.

[TheGreatYacht]

Doing it again. You're somehow copying both of us at the same time now.
Look at that. No emoticons. Getting better 'nook

[ElNono]

I get that, but the only people saying it was a bargain were people at the time it was signed. Even after the fact (like last year) getting an all nba defensive player for that money is considered pretty good. So on all levels.

For his current deal? Yes. For Patty money? Not so sure.

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny crapping on you in real time lol
He really fucking sh0wed me, buddy :lol

[TimDunkem]

He really fucking sh0wed me, buddy :lol
:lmao

[SuperCam]

He really fucking sh0wed me, buddy :lol

Slurpers getting bukakked :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

Slurpers getting bukakked :lol
Let this be a learning lesson to never put blind faith on benchwarmers who age like milk.