Splitter Traded to Hawks

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 22s22 seconds ago
The San Antonio Spurs have traded center Tiago Splitter to the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spur stalk.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D236725&tw_i=483849707563651072&tw_p=tweetembed

[NASpurs]

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIT IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spursparker9]

wow ....

[Budkin]

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[Spur|n|Austin]

WOW

[Mr. Body]

Holy shit, this is happening fast.

[NASpurs]

My jaw dropped when I got those tweets from WOJtek... holy fucking shit!!!

[ernest787]

WE COMING FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 54s54 seconds ago
After bringing back Danny Green, the Spurs are unloading Splitter's salary to the Hawks. Now, the Spurs go into Aldridge meeting with space.

[spursparker9]

lol of course it is to Spurs East

[hooperflash]

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[Budkin]

Oops sorry for the dupe. Mods please delete.

[Hoops Czar]

It's not happening.

[xellos88330]

OMG!!! This is insane!!! Please golden god, let your sacrifice not be in vain.

[gameFACE]

Pop and RC calling Bud. It would be pretty fucked up if the Spurs don't land LMA now :lol

[noles1983]

holy shit yes!!!!!

[Spur|n|Austin]

what a crazy past 15 minutes!

[ducks]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 59s59 seconds ago
Trades, like signings, can't be "made" until July 9, but Spurs find home for Splitter with Hawks agreeing to take on Tiago salary via trade

[crc21209]

Yessssss! I had just told my friend Millsap getting offered that crazy money by Orlando could trigger Tiago to Atlanta, and minutes later...it happened :lol

[szkorhetz]

Shit, shit, LMA baby!

[Ron Swanson]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29966-ITS-HAPPENING-gif-Ron-Paul-HD-xThK.gif

[spursparker9]

Guess that the price that Bud agreed when Pop flies to Atlanta to give him advice against the Cavs

[spursmvp]

what if LMA doesn't sign with us...

[Blizzardwizard]

HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

http://i.imgur.com/cjbY0nE.gif

http://i.imgur.com/cjbY0nE.gif

[ducks]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN · 2m2 minutes ago
Hawks still working out details on Splitter swap. There are other moving pieces that will allow the Hawks to still have space for Millsap

[davidbowie]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMGGGGGGGGG

[Hoops Czar]

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/539644405494556317/47C2F86059C34ABA50098707C2A959F1E3327B08/

[Mr. Body]

Great for these reasons:

1. Doesn't give him to Cleveland
2. Strengthens one of Cleveland's rivals
3. Doesn't appear that Mills or Diaw has been traded

[Duncan2177]

FUCK YEA:stirpot:

[ducks]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN · 1m1 minute ago
League executives believe Splitter move for Hawks protects them in case Millsap signs with Orlando. Allows Al Horford to move to PF.

[Agloco]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 22s22 seconds ago
The San Antonio Spurs have traded center Tiago Splitter to the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spur stalk.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D236725&tw_i=483849707563651072&tw_p=tweetembed


Holy ish.....

[timtonymanu]

Sucks to lose Tiago, but Atlanta is a great team for him. Glad he's going there at least.

Golden God :cry

Thank you for last year's run!

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 32s32 seconds ago
Spurs are walking into the LaMarcus Aldridge meeting right now, armed with Danny Green, cap space and frontrunner status on luring Aldridge

[jeebus]

Glad he went to the Hawks. Really glad. Would love to see them in the Finals.

[NASpurs]

ducks had to fuck up this thread with such a shitty thread title.

[NASpurs]

Better than Splitter going to Cleveland. Fuck that noise.

[dg7md]

what if LMA doesn't sign with us...

Would we have made the move so soon like this if we don't get LMA? I have to imagine our front office knows something.

[hater]

good move. thankfully he didn't go to the Cavs.

:tu good news.

Green Dickriders must be having a party 1999 style :lol

[RD2191]

?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY PORQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[bklynspursfan]

Love Tiago in Atl with Bud. He'll be a great fit. Like when we traded Hill, he went back to his old stomping grounds. Spurs take care of their people.... Love it

[Raven]

did we get anything?

[intlspurshk]

iT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR ALL PARTIES

[Malik Hairston]

A few posters have been predicting Splitter to the Hawks for weeks, I think Richie in particular IIRC..

Pretty cool/sad that posters here are far more informed than the media that gets paid to write shit like the Spurs won't be able to make the moves for Aldridge and would lose Green in order to acquire him:lol..

[Seventyniner]

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But is it enough space? If not, how much more salary do the Spurs need to dump?

[mrjap2x]

What happens if LMA turns the Spurs down, can the Spurs cancel this trade?

[NASpurs]

Mugen, get in here and celebrate

[ducks]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 28s29 seconds ago
Pop is awake

[Hoops Czar]

Obviously a salary dump but, Splitter's not even worth a draft pick?

[RD2191]

BIG FUCKING MISTAKE. I GUARANTEE IT.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck, did the Spurs keep Green and Mills and get a commitment from Aldridge?

[freetiago]

Thankfully he'll go to an elite coach who is the mastermind behind the Spurs offense. He's a perfect fit next to Horford where he can lead them to the 1 seed again.

[sananspursfan21]

I don't see any reason they do this unless there's a serious shot. Cmon LaMarcus!!!!

[ducks]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN · 2m2 minutes ago
Here is situation atrade: Spurs now in position for max cap space for Aldridge. Hawks in position to move on with Millsap or without him.

[sananspursfan21]

That Larry O'Brien trophy isn't gonna hoist itself!!

[Mr. Body]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs are walking into the LaMarcus Aldridge meeting right now, armed with Danny Green, cap space and frontrunner status on luring Aldridge.

[ColinB]

Free at last.

[beirmeistr]

the Spurs are moving with the precision of Desert Storm

[Mr. Body]

So... they've made this trade without locking LMA for certain. Maybe. That's gutsy.

[Mnky]

Spurfan so Cray Cray. We got to game 7 vs clips, our worst matchup, without splitter. He was not as necessary as people make him out to be. Living room coaches know best tho.

[kobyz]

And spurs also getting dennis schroeder in that deal... Just kidding!

[Mugen]

Mugen (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519), get in here and celebrate

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/LeBrondance.gif

[daslicer]

Very stupid move since there is no guarantee they will get LMA. The spurs traded their defensive anchor with no guarantee for a replacement.

[Mugen]

I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU, GOLDEN GOD!!!!!!!!

[Mnky]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Spurs are walking into the LaMarcus Aldridge meeting right now, armed with Danny Green, cap space and frontrunner status on luring Aldridge.

until Parker starts talking about how his hero ball will lead the next big three..

[ducks]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 40s41 seconds ago
Spurs' last 45 minutes a huge boon to their LaMarcus chances.

[Agloco]

I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU, GOLDEN GOD!!!!!!!!

Lol. Tip that 40 to him....

[testies]

fuck that shit man.. i don't know if i can be a spurs fan without any south americans left in the team

gonna go search for another team now, cheers

[Rapper]

Hold on Spurs fans!

The lucky thing like this would never and ever happen on us Spurs fans

[baseline bum]

good move. thankfully he didn't go to the Cavs.

:tu good news.

Green Dickriders must be having a party 1999 style :lol

God damn right

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[BillMc]

And we get to keep Mills! (I think!)

[Agloco]

Very stupid move since there is no guarantee they will get LMA. The spurs traded their defensive anchor with no guarantee for a replacement.

You don't know that tbh.

[loveforthegame]

This is crazy. It's actually happening. That or the Spurs have a hell of a plan B.

[Agloco]

And we get to keep Mills! (I think!)

And BoBo no?

[crc21209]

Thanks for helping win that ship last year Tiago, but yesssss! Come on Aldridge. P.S....thanks Bud! :lol

[Agloco]

This is crazy. It's actually happening. That or the Spurs have a hell of a plan B.

Or no Plan B and it's just Buford having gotten into Pops wine stash.

[Dre_7]

Very stupid move since there is no guarantee they will get LMA. The spurs traded their defensive anchor with no guarantee for a replacement.

I am still not getting my hopes up about LMA but if the Spurs do not get him, I am sure they will find an adequete replacement. Or at least someone that isn't hurt 3/4 of the season.

[Malik Hairston]

Great that Splitter goes to the Hawks, tbh..they desperately need size, he fits their system, and he's going to be a big addition for them..good to see him land in a good spot..

And I'm assuming the front office isn't careless enough to make this deal without being very confident that Aldridge is going to be a Spur..

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 59s60 seconds ago
Lakers didn't make strong impression in Aldridge meeting, sources say. Spurs can close on him. LMA expected to make decision fairly soon.

[SpursPreacher]

fuck that shit man.. i don't know if i can be a spurs fan without any south americans left in the team

gonna go search for another team now, cheers

They will still have Manu.

[Kori Ellis]

Good move for the Spurs, and the Hawks. Thanks, Bud.

[Agloco]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 28s29 seconds ago
Pop is awake

It's 11 Central.....lol.

[BillMc]

Great that Splitter goes to the Hawks, tbh..they desperately need size, he fits their system, and he's going to be a big addition for them..good to see him land in a good spot..

And I'm assuming the front office isn't careless enough to make this deal without being very confident that Aldridge is going to be a Spur..

Somehow it makes me feel better he's going to the Hawks. Like he's still in the Spurs family...

[024]

Fucking knew it. Once Milsap is gone, the Hawks would have been the best trading partner.

[spursparker9]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 59s60 seconds ago
Lakers didn't make strong impression in Aldridge meeting, sources say. Spurs can close on him. LMA expected to make decision fairly soon.

Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.com:

The Lakers meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge went almost two hours. Source in the room said it went “really well”

From a person in the room for the Lakers pitch “LaMarcus seemed completely focused.”

Always hard to gauge how a meeting really went, but Lakers felt better about this mtg w/ Aldridge than they did w/ Dwight or Melo.

Bill Oram of the Orange County Register:

Been told Kobe Bryant was “very good” in Lakers meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge. Also that meeting went “well,” for what that’s worth.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/01/report-kobe-bryant-was-very-good-in-lakers-meeting-with-lamarcus-aldridge-which-went-really-well/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

[Mugen]

ace3g , i need that Pop as the Night's King photo

[testies]

Good luck defending the pick n roll with Duncan's corpse and LMA :lol:lol

Tiago was the sole reason we had PnR defense..

[BillMc]

Good move for the Spurs, and the Hawks. Thanks, Bud.

Agree!

(And good to see you back Kori! :toast )

[Russ]

Regardless of whether the Spurs get LMA, they now need a rim protector at center.

[beirmeistr]

Manu will come back for sure, can't pass up this opportunity to get another ring (assuming LMA comes on board )

[Chinook]

Definitely wish the Spurs had just made that deal on draft night. Green had no know he'd be willing to come back for that a week ago.

[timtonymanu]

Carroll to Toronto.

Damn, Atlanta getting fucked over.

[Agloco]

But is it enough space? If not, how much more salary do the Spurs need to dump?

What if Verdes salary is backloaded? Like 8, 10, 12, 14? Is that even possible? Dunno? Would that help?

[Baam]

The only question mark in what appears to be a stellar offseason seems to be the defensive assignments in the frontcourt... Who is gonna defend someone like Drummond or DH.

[Malik Hairston]

Definitely wish the Spurs had just made that deal on draft night. Green had no know he'd be willing to come back for that a week ago.

Definitely seems like it, considering how quickly he re-signed and how many teams were reportedly interested in him:lol..

[ducks]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN · 2m2 minutes ago
Tiago Splitter will receive a $2.5 million trade kicker as part of this trade today

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I don't think the Spurs make this deal without some assurance from LMA he is coming. RC and Pop would never do it.

Also means Baynes will be returning more than likely next season.

[RD2191]

Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.com:

The Lakers meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge went almost two hours. Source in the room said it went “really well”

From a person in the room for the Lakers pitch “LaMarcus seemed completely focused.”

Always hard to gauge how a meeting really went, but Lakers felt better about this mtg w/ Aldridge than they did w/ Dwight or Melo.

Bill Oram of the Orange County Register:

Been told Kobe Bryant was “very good” in Lakers meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge. Also that meeting went “well,” for what that’s worth.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/01/report-kobe-bryant-was-very-good-in-lakers-meeting-with-lamarcus-aldridge-which-went-really-well/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 5m5 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616275904252096512)
Lakers didn't make strong impression in Aldridge meeting, sources say. Spurs can close on him. LMA expected to make decision fairly soon.

[Kori Ellis]

I merged the two threads.

[Mr. Body]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 59s60 seconds ago
Lakers didn't make strong impression in Aldridge meeting, sources say. Spurs can close on him. LMA expected to make decision fairly soon.

Hope he made a wanking motion as they talked.

[Russ]

I don't think the Spurs make this deal without some assurance from LMA he is coming. RC and Pop would never do it.



Not so sure about that.

In any event, the die is now cast.

Plan B can no longer be to re-sign everybody -- Plan B now has to involve some (probably high-priced) free agent.

Any ideas if it's not LMA?

DeAndre? Monroe? Others?

[InRareForm]

In WOJ we trust

[fundamental9903]

I don't think the Spurs make this deal without some assurance from LMA he is coming. RC and Pop would never do it.

Also means Baynes will be returning more than likely next season.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

The only question mark in what appears to be a stellar offseason seems to be the defensive assignments in the frontcourt... Who is gonna defend someone like Drummond or DH.

Baynes. Baynes does a great job against Howard when isn't able to get away with offensive fouling him.

Question is who is going to defend the likes of Davis, Griffin, Zbo. I guess the Spurs will revert to the Amare strategy of letting those guys get their, but shut down everyone else.

[cd98]

Will need a new center in addition to Baynes. I wonder what Atlanta gave up in Splitter trade. A draft pick?

[szkorhetz]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN · 2m2 minutes ago
Tiago Splitter will receive a $2.5 million trade kicker as part of this trade today
How does trade kickers work?

[BillMc]

If, by some chance, we don't get LMA, who is Plan B? Not that Tiago is gone, what are some other bigs we would consider?

[cjw]

Will be interesting to see details. Spurs may get trade exception too...

That could be VERY helpful in adding bench depth.

[Budkin]

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[RD2191]

616275381151109120
:lol

[timvp]

As much I like Healthy Splitter, being able to salary dump him for nothing is an opportunity the Spurs couldn't pass up right now. Walking into the Aldridge meeting with such a clear picture of the future is worth the gamble of having to figure out a Plan B if Aldridge goes elsewhere.

Thanks, Splitter, for the great run that helped get #5. Have fun in Atlanta where you have a legit shot at making it to the Finals.

And thank you, Coach Bud, for doing the Spurs a solid.

[kjhip1]

Wonder what we get in return?

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Damn. I fell asleep for forty five minutes and we re-sign Green, trade splitter and cashing in on LMA

[NASpurs]

Damn. I fell asleep for forty five minutes and we re-sign Green, trade splitter and cashing in on LMA

Fall asleep more often then :lol

[Dex]

616275381151109120

:lmao

[beirmeistr]

Or no Plan B and it's just Buford having gotten into Pops wine stash.

ha ha ha

[RD2191]

Damn. I fell asleep for forty five minutes and we re-sign Green, trade splitter and cashing in on LMA
lol, old bastard

[Darius Bieber]

Wonder what we get in return?

Probably cash considerations.

[SupremeGuy]

616275381151109120:lol

[SequSpur]

Ducks wasn't the first one to post this... Why does he/she/it get credit for breaking news?

[kjhip1]

Damn. I fell asleep for forty five minutes and we re-sign Green, trade splitter and cashing in on LMA

Tell me about it. I'm in hawaii and stayed up til 2am my time and slept til 6am, woke up to friends texting all this, had to fact check here at spurstalk.

[djohn14]

What about possibly adding an overseas player from the Hawks? They own the rights to Gran Canaria's Walter Tavares.

[Blake]

Atlanta Spurs doing their part to help home base.

[024]

Wonder what we get in return?
Hopefully at least a usable 2nd round pick or a far into the future lottery protected 1st pick. Splitter is a very valuable player with a friendly contract... the Spurs probably didn't have any trouble fielding offers.

[Dingle Barry]

Regardless of whether the Spurs get LMA, they now need a rim protector at center.

Bismack Biyombo with MLE money?

[Kindergarten Cop]

Damn. I fell asleep for forty five minutes and we re-sign Green, trade splitter and cashing in on LMA

Go back to sleep ... and perhaps we can get Tyson Chandler and Paul Pierce to split the MLE. :D

[AFBlue]

His name is Cady Lalanne...second round gold!

[KaiRMD1]

As much as Splitter leaving bugs me, I know Bud is gonna do right with Splitter so it's kind of not even a loss but man, we really need some kind of interior presence because Ayres can't do shit

[CGD]

If they line up LMA quick, gives Portland time to think about trading for an exception or losing him for nothing.

[cd98]

Splitter will be perfect in Atlanta's system. He's one of the best passing big men.

[peacemaker885]

Pop cartel tbh...

[CGD]

Kosta Koufus or bust

[SpursFan86]

What about possibly adding an overseas player from the Hawks? They own the rights to Gran Canaria's Walter Tavares. It'd be a hell of a deal if we got him back tbh. He was one of the main guys I wanted us to draft last year. Not gonna get my hopes up though...this offseason is looking too good to be true at the moment :lol

[cutewizard]

Capitan Tiago, thanks for the 2014 Title man, you helped us take that one

Go into the Hawks, make them number one in the East

and beat Lebron next year man!!!!

[cutewizard]

Glad to know that Bud has Pop's back

hehehehehe

[cutewizard]

Duncan at center, LaMarcus and Leonard at forwards (omg the best frontline in the NBA)

MAKE IT HAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNN pls

[cutewizard]

Atlanta Spurs doing their part to help home base.


indeed

[boutons_deux]

get healthy and stay healthy, Tiago

[CGD]

Spurs had to get something back, right? Here's hoping its Walter

[Leetonidas]

Does anyone know if the Spurs will have the MLE to use once Aldridge/Green/Leonard are re-signed? Kofous would be a good target for backup C imo

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs will lose MLE as they will have cap room greater than it.

[Richie]

Nobody who has read this forum for the past couple of months should be surprised, it was the obvious and perfect fit.

I thought it was dead as Atlanta didn't have Carrolls bird rights but with him going to Toronto it works perfectly.

[szkorhetz]

Bismack Biyombo with MLE money?
Chandler, two years, MLE?

[rocknblues81]

Lost Carroll and ended up with this bum.

[spurspokesman]

BANGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CGD]

Nobody who has read this forum for the past couple of months should be surprised, it was the obvious and perfect fit.

I thought it was dead as Atlanta didn't have Carrolls bird rights but with him going to Toronto it works perfectly.

Can't we do a sign and trade with Portland, with them getting a trade exception?

[bluebellmaniac]

Will be interesting to see details. Spurs may get trade exception too...

That could be VERY helpful in adding bench depth.

I don't think we even want the trade exception. Pretty sure that would count against our cap and nix our ability to sign LMA. Any draft pick would work since we would have to jettison Splitter anyway.

[Raven]

Bismack Biyombo with MLE money?

i doubt he needs the mle, but i thought of him as well, seems like a decent fit

[Richie]

Can't we do a sign and trade with Portland, with them getting a trade exception?

Not worth it as we've got the cap space to sign him outright now.

[Spurs9]

Glad to see he at least ended back with Bud, he will do well there.

[spurspokesman]

Would we have made the move so soon like this if we don't get LMA? I have to imagine our front office knows something.

[Seventyniner]

Not worth it as we've got the cap space to sign him outright now.

I think it would allow the Spurs to give 7.5% raises instead of 4.5%.

[honestfool84]

I merged the two threads.


Lost in all this confusion... This may be the greatest post I've read all day.

[spurraider21]

Spurs will lose MLE as they will have cap room greater than it.
unless splitter to hawks ends up being part of a multi-team sign and trade

[Knoxxx]

With our Big 3 there and Pop LMA probably realized they couldn't say no.

With regard to Splitter, his salary is just about right and quite cap friendly. We were asking ourselves whether we really wanted to part with Splitter, but of course when the gain is LMA that is a no brainer.

How is this salary dump working? Do we take draft picks back?

[Old School 44]

Thanks Tiago, I hope your calf gets better!

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/tcatz/TiagoCalf_zpsrwyexdop.jpg (http://s1145.photobucket.com/user/tcatz/media/TiagoCalf_zpsrwyexdop.jpg.html)

[Dverde]

Yahoo's default pic of Splitter is Blake Griffin stripping the ball from him. Seems to capture dude perfectly. I won't miss screaming at my tv for guy to go up strong. Scouting report is out on his reverse layup.

[benefactor]

Spurs East :tu

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If Tiago can stay healthy he makes Atlanta a lot better team. Their lack of a true center hurt them in the post season. They were way too small. He can pass...he can defend...he can pull his calf muscle at a whim.

[Richie]

I think it would allow the Spurs to give 7.5% raises instead of 4.5%.

True but we'd have to give up Mills which depending on the final cap figure isn't guaranteed right now. Also expect him to sign a 2+1 at which point the raises don't mean much.

If he's willing to commit for 5 years then I'm all for a sign and trade, we'd have Aldridge, Leonard and Green locked in earning under 50% of the cap in 2017 in that case which would let us add another great piece.

[313]

It was for the best

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/a1OpEwhEMdc/maxresdefault.jpg

[Dingle Barry]

i doubt he needs the mle, but i thought of him as well, seems like a decent fit

Certainly not all of it.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What about possibly adding an overseas player from the Hawks? They own the rights to Gran Canaria's Walter Tavares.

this is what i'm hoping for. if they did this, i'll be impressed.

[Steve-O-Matic]

this is what i'm hoping for. if they did this, i'll be impressed.
I won't. Even in a trade where the primary goal is clearing cap space, you have to come away with a more material asset than the rights to a player like Walter Tavares who has little-to-no NBA future. Tiago Splitter is a quality starting center with a fair contract, for whom certainly more teams than just the Hawks would have liked to acquire. They can (and should) get something of moderate value in return beyond just the cap space, even its just a highly protected first round draft pick down the line. This isn't Eddy Curry and his contract that we just traded.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

BIG FUCKING MISTAKE. I GUARANTEE IT.

i don't know if you're joking or not. but i agree. Splitter had a nice contract, and all that time in the Spurs system. He's been brought along through the draft and stash program and benched for Blair. He is beautiful in pick and roll. His defense wasn't bad. The injuries were annoying, and his space makes room for LMA. i don't think either reason is good enough excuse to dump him. LMA is a loser, i think we're getting RJ 2.0

[ElNono]

in before TD21 rant :lol

[rocknblues81]

If Tiago can stay healthy he makes Atlanta a lot better team. Their lack of a true center hurt them in the post season. They were way too small. He can pass...he can defend...he can pull his calf muscle at a whim.

lol... Splitter making a team a lot better? That's a joke.

Teague/Dennis S
Korver/Thabo
Hardaway Jr/Scott
Millsap (If he stays)/Scott
Horford/Splitter

Sorry, that lineup is a huge bag of shit.

[RD2191]

i don't know if you're joking or not. but i agree. Splitter had a nice contract, and all that time in the Spurs system. He's been brought along through the draft and stash program and benched for Blair. He is beautiful in pick and roll. His defense wasn't bad. The injuries were annoying, and his space makes room for LMA. i don't think either reason is good enough excuse to dump him. LMA is a loser, i think we're getting RJ 2.0
I'm not joking and I agree. Been saying it since the trade Tiago rumors came up.

[slick'81]

Spurs aren't giving away splitter for nothing .this is getting good

[lefty]

My jaw dropped when I got those tweets from WOJtek... holy fucking shit!!!

WOJTEK

[slick'81]

Lol at any dumbass who would keep splitter over lma

[CGD]

Not worth it as we've got the cap space to sign him outright now.

Is that true? Being able to have access to the MLE sounds good to me.

[itsamanuthree]

If LMA comes on board and Manu stays, I just hope Porky makes a huge sacrifice and refrains from sabotaging the team for at least this one year.

[Richie]

Is that true? Being able to have access to the MLE sounds good to me.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's no longer possible with the Splitter trade. We would have to send Portland $13.9m of salary and we don't have anyone on the roster to send them. We'd have to take him in to cap space which means losing the MLE and all our cap holds on Jospeh, Belinelli etc... The only benefit would be to Aldridge getting 7.5% raises, but we'd have to give away picks for Portland to agree

[Richie]

Of course if it means getting Aldridge for 5 years at this years cap figure I'm willing to give up some picks in a sign and trade. We'd have crazy cap space in 2017. I suspect it's a 2+1 or 3+1 though.

[DPG21920]

A few posters have been predicting Splitter to the Hawks for weeks, I think Richie in particular IIRC..

Pretty cool/sad that posters here are far more informed than the media that gets paid to write shit like the Spurs won't be able to make the moves for Aldridge and would lose Green in order to acquire him:lol..

Lol - look what I did to Stein this morning (I like Stein ):

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[Mr. Body]

If Tim Hardaway Jr and Greivis Vasquez were worth a first rounder a piece, Splitter has to be worth at least that much.

[T Park]

Except they lostCarroll too!

[ducks]

people did not think they could keep 3
I think they keep milsap now

[Steve-O-Matic]

Per the Hawks' SBNation site....


According to multiple sources, the Hawks have acquired Tiago Splitter in a deal involving non-roster pieces. I've talked about the non-roster pieces before and they include the rights to Marcus Eriksson and Dimitrios Agravanis (2015 NBA Draft), Edy Tavares and Lamar Patterson (2014 NBA Draft), Sergey Gladyr (drafted in 2009), Giorgos Printezis (part of the Thabo sign-and-trade), Alain Digbeu (drafted in 1997), and Augusto Binelli (drafted in 1986). So the Hawks will be sending the rights to one or more of these players in exchange for Tiago.

It should be noted that future draft picks would also constitute "non-roster pieces."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Lol - look what I did to Stein this morning (I like Stein ):

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I think now that they've lost Carroll and Millsap has a huge offer from Orlando, they may try to work a sign-and-trade for Tobias Harris.

[spurraider21]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

[ducks]

hawks said they will match the numbers with magic

[slick'81]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

missing tiago

[Maddog]

Per the Hawks' SBNation site....



It should be noted that future draft picks would also constitute "non-roster pieces."

Future Draft Picks?
I wan't Augusto Binelli!

Wonder when we'll hear what they got- other than cap space

[DesignatedT]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

Chandler + another piece?

[SpurPadre]

Great for these reasons:

1. Doesn't give him to Cleveland
2. Strengthens one of Cleveland's rivals
3. Doesn't appear that Mills or Diaw has been traded

And 4: we send Splitter to a coach and system he knows.

[Spur-Addict]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

Max out Iman Shumpert

[Ginobili3]

I dunno if I like the loss of a good defender but I'll take it if we get LMA now

[Aztecfan03]

Per the Hawks' SBNation site....



It should be noted that future draft picks would also constitute "non-roster pieces."
I sure hope one of the pieces doesn't include someone who was drafted 30 years ago. or even 18 years ago.

[BackHome]

Wow. We better have gotten draft picks for this trade. You don't trade a starting center and get nothing in return. As another poster said I wouldn't mind Walter Tavares a big dude who can protect rim and rebound and not bad in half court offense

[313]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

Monroe apparently

[slick'81]

Wow. We better have gotten draft picks for this trade. You don't trade a starting center and get nothing in return. As another poster said I wouldn't mind Walter Tavares a big dude who can protect rim and rebound and not bad in half court offense


Thats what I was thinking .I was praying we get the hawks 1st ?lol

[Russ]

Plan B can no longer be to re-sign everybody -- Plan B now has to involve some (probably high-priced) free agent.

Any ideas if it's not LMA?

DeAndre? Monroe? Others?

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Any others?

Any ideas to split the excess cap space between more than one player?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I won't. Even in a trade where the primary goal is clearing cap space, you have to come away with a more material asset than the rights to a player like Walter Tavares who has little-to-no NBA future. Tiago Splitter is a quality starting center with a fair contract, for whom certainly more teams than just the Hawks would have liked to acquire. They can (and should) get something of moderate value in return beyond just the cap space, even its just a highly protected first round draft pick down the line. This isn't Eddy Curry and his contract that we just traded.

Tavares = Gobert

[Mikeanaro]

Quit playing games with my heart, is that vag really outta SA?

[Marcus Bryant]

Any others?

Any ideas to split the excess cap space between more than one player?

I would think so. Make a run at a young RFA perhaps.

Of course there's always next year when the cap goes up by $20MM.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Tavares = Gobert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJotAdtzHEI

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good luck defending the pick n roll with Duncan's corpse and LMA :lol:lol

Tiago was the sole reason we had PnR defense..

Is your avatar supposed to be irony for this post?

[sexinthatsx]

so... if LMA doesn't happen, what's the plan :lol

Pay Marc Gasol a bit more, resign Marco, Mills, and the rest of the core to reasonable contracts and call it a day.

[milkyway21]

Hate to see him go but this is good news..he's in the East now..I don't want him to play in any WC teams like Dallas..

If Aldridge signs elsewhere, ang M. Gasol will stay in Memphis, we're doomed :(

I can't think of any plan C for now

[sexinthatsx]

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616321743582433280

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Tavares = Gobert

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/6/27/8744753/atlanta-hawks-roster-walter-tavares-lamar-patterson

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/6/27/8857025/walter-tavares-atlanta-hawks-summer-league-contract-options

the bottom article is bad news. but things change.

[Brazil]

Per the Hawks' SBNation site....



It should be noted that future draft picks would also constitute "non-roster pieces."

Alain Digbeu ? :lol

[coopdogg3]

Are we ever gonna find out what the Spurs got in return?

[aal04]

Feel good for Tiago. Best place to go. He knows the system/coach. Hope he does well.

I will now call this tranny day, when Spurs become a man and lose their vagina.

[bigfan]

Tiago was a good soldier, best of luck in the future.

[tholdren]

BYE BYE SPLITTER!!!!!! HELLO ANYONE ELSE!!!!!

[Steve-O-Matic]

Are we ever gonna find out what the Spurs got in return?

Yes

[Obstructed_View]

Didn't see this anywhere, but does this in any way help the Spurs to keep Mills?

[SpursFan86]

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[CGD]

Any of their draft and stashes good?

[Mr. Body]

Couldn't be, due to salary.

[Skoobz]

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Hawks have any prospects stashed overseas?

[timvp]

Do the Hawks still have the rights to Cenk Akyol or whatever his name was? That's the guy who they drafted a while ago after asking the Spurs for their opinion on a draft-and-stash prospect :lol

[SpursFan86]

Hawks have any prospects stashed overseas?

Walter Tavares would be a good one...7'2" center with an absolutely ridiculous wingspan/standing reach.

[objective]

I don't really like the deal too much, even if Aldridge is signed and I don't feel good about that happening either.

My problem is that it sells so damn low. And to a contender! Never trade a good player to a contender for nothing, it's teams doing that w which kept the bulls and Lakers dynasties back in the day.

All out of fear. I understand the fear in splitter being hurt often and in the wrong side of 30. I know he began the last two postseasons injured and while the spurs were able to beat the low seeded Dallas team they failed against LAC.

But to get almost nothing, and maybe even adding more to splitter, just a damn shame. Don't know the final details, but losing a sound player just for the chance at an overrated mid-range big ... I think they might have been better off with the mle and the bae and just trying again with the same group plus the mle / bae signings.

[Marcus Bryant]

Do the Hawks still have the rights to Cenk Akyol or whatever his name was? That's the guy who they drafted a while ago after asking the Spurs for their opinion on a draft-and-stash prospect :lol

Right. Has to be some intl player or perhaps multiple picks.

[ohmwrecker]

Do the Hawks still have the rights to Cenk Akyol or whatever his name was? That's the guy who they drafted a while ago after asking the Spurs for their opinion on a draft-and-stash prospect :lol

Nope.

http://www.nba.com/nuggets/news/nuggets-acquire-rights-cenk-akyol

[Cklbmk]

Regardless of whether the Spurs get LMA, they now need a rim protector at center.

Tim Duncan?

[Mr. Body]

Didn't we get the amazing Viktor Sanikidze from them?

[Cklbmk]

I don't really like the deal too much, even if Aldridge is signed and I don't feel good about that happening either.

My problem is that it sells so damn low. And to a contender! Never trade a good player to a contender for nothing, it's teams doing that w which kept the bulls and Lakers dynasties back in the day.

All out of fear. I understand the fear in splitter being hurt often and in the wrong side of 30. I know he began the last two postseasons injured and while the spurs were able to beat the low seeded Dallas team they failed against LAC.

We didn't trade him for nothing. We traded him for Lamarcus Aldridge.

But to get almost nothing, and maybe even adding more to splitter, just a damn shame. Don't know the final details, but losing a sound player just for the chance at an overrated mid-range big ... I think they might have been better off with the mle and the bae and just trying again with the same group plus the mle / bae signings.

[tholdren]

go away

[timvp]

Didn't we get the amazing Viktor Sanikidze from them?

Yeah, IIRC, the Spurs got Sanikidze but part of the deal was helping the Hawks pick their own draft-and-stash prospect. And the Spurs recommended Cenk Akyol. I believe it was a deal with good ol' Pete Babcock.

[Obstructed_View]

If Aldridge goes elsewhere, it's Tavares or bust!

[BackHome]

If we get his rights can we sign him? I know he saying he won't play in Atlanta summer league but I think it's because they won't bring him over. Like I said if we gave up Splitter for nothing that is pretty ucked up

[DisciplinaryOffice]

If it is Tavares, here's an interesting little piece about some financial gymnastics. Someone smarter than I am (Bruno?) would have to weigh in on the feasibility, but it seems credible. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/6/27/8744753/atlanta-hawks-roster-walter-tavares-lamar-patterson

[testies]

http://s4.postimg.org/fqizx34sd/spliitteeer.png

[TD 21]

The fact that the compensation is not yet known, this long after the fact, tells me this trade is contingent on Aldridge signing. If he doesn't, I fully expect the Spurs to pretend this never happened, like the rumored Jefferson amnesty.

Hopefully, if it all comes to fruition, Tavares is a piece coming back, but I'm skeptical. I heard a few months ago that the Hawks are high on him. That said, they're now well stocked at C and both big positions in general for at least the near future, so who knows.

[ceperez]

The fact that the compensation is not yet known, this long after the fact, tells me this trade is contingent on Aldridge signing. If he doesn't, I fully expect the Spurs to pretend this never happened, like the rumored Jefferson amnesty.

Hopefully, if it all comes to fruition, Tavares is a piece coming back, but I'm skeptical. I heard a few months ago that the Hawks are high on him. That said, they're now well stocked at C and both big positions in general for at least the near future, so who knows.

But wait... is this contingent also on Milsap not signing with the Hawks?

He just signed with the Hawks! Let's hope the deal isn't voided.

[tholdren]

But wait... is this contingent also on Milsap not signing with the Hawks?

He just signed with the Hawks! Let's hope the deal isn't voided.
doubtful

[Marcus Bryant]

But wait... is this contingent also on Milsap not signing with the Hawks?

He just signed with the Hawks! Let's hope the deal isn't voided.


Actual contracts aren't signed for a couple weeks. Plenty of time to flesh out the details. This sounds like the Spurs & Hawks agreed in principle, but will send in the paperwork a little later.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It's a pity to lose Splitter's elite post and team defence, but that's the price you pay for LMA. ;)

[Nathan89]

Pretty irritating if we can't get any decent prospects back.

[timvp]

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Sounds like Pop and Bud have a gentlemen's agreement. Will probably work out details depending on what else happens in the next week.

Thanks again, Bud.

[SpurPadre]

At the very least, we didn't get Daye back.

[Strategic]

This leaves the Spurs with the same squad that played well down the stretch this season. Maybe Pop & company decided it was time to move on from Tiago no matter what else happens. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Spurs take it low and slow for a while. Be what he may, at least Baynes is familiar with TD and the system. No need to fubar the chemistry if Timmy and Manu are up for another run.

[cd021]

It would be surprising if the Spurs didn't get a pick from Atlanta. At the very least a couple of 2nd rounders.

Atlanta's Picks

2nd Rounders

2016-Atlanta
2016-Washington
2017-Miami (protected from 31-40)
2017- Brookyln
2017-Atlanta

I'd be cool with the rights to Taverez (7'3 Center, 23 Years old) alogn with the Washington and Brooklyn 2nd rounders. If not a first.

[therealtruth]

Glad he went to the Hawks. Really glad. Would love to see them in the Finals.

You really don't want that. They have the guy who can stop LMA when healthy.

[Ice009]

This leaves the Spurs with the same squad that played well down the stretch this season. Maybe Pop & company decided it was time to move on from Tiago no matter what else happens. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Spurs take it low and slow for a while. Be what he may, at least Baynes is familiar with TD and the system. No need to fubar the chemistry if Timmy and Manu are up for another run.

Umm Tiago was part of that squad that played well down the stretch. What are you talking about? Tiago was very aggressive, maybe the most aggressive I'd ever seen him and playing some of his best ball in all of his time in San Antonio. It all started going down the drain when he got hurt again with about 3 games left in the season. You could see the Spurs level of play in those games dropped.

I'm going to now comment that I don't like this trade if the Spurs don't get Aldridge.

[therealtruth]

This leaves the Spurs with the same squad that played well down the stretch this season. Maybe Pop & company decided it was time to move on from Tiago no matter what else happens. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Spurs take it low and slow for a while. Be what he may, at least Baynes is familiar with TD and the system. No need to fubar the chemistry if Timmy and Manu are up for another run.

The Baynes Blake Griffin kept baptizing in game 1? Bayes is not the same as TS defensively.

[Marcus Bryant]

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Sounds like Pop and Bud have a gentlemen's agreement. Will probably work out details depending on what else happens in the next week.

Thanks again, Bud.

Nice. Helpful to have teams you can deal with. Still, even with a contract dump, should get back an intl prospect and a pick for Splitter.

[Mr. Body]

They also get a Splitter-sized trade exception, right? Could come in handy down the line.

[Strategic]

Umm Tiago was part of that squad that played well down the stretch. What are you talking about? Tiago was very aggressive, maybe the most aggressive I'd ever seen him and playing some of his best ball in all of his time in San Antonio. It all started going down the drain when he got hurt again with about 3 games left in the season. You could see the Spurs level of play in those games dropped.

I'm going to now comment that I don't like this trade if the Spurs don't get Aldridge.Spurs were around 21 wins and 7 losses this year when Tiago was cheerleading, including the last five wins of the regular season. Sure Baynes, and just about all other Spurs were punked by the Clippers. There may already be a second row seat behind the Hawks bench with his name all over it.

[Marcus Bryant]

This is such a bogus trade. There's no nothing about this deal. No press release, no word of any other player contract nor draft picks nor draft rights involved. Just a mention by some reporter in 140 characters or less that all that will be figured out later.

[objective]

They also get a Splitter-sized trade exception, right? Could come in handy down the line.

They would have to renounce any and all exceptions to free up the cap space they would use for a contract, so no.

[Marcus Bryant]

This should be a chapter in Spurs/CIA Pop lore. The bullshit "trade" which everyone reported without actually happening. Until (we hope) it needed to.

[BackHome]

So Baynes got owned by Blake I remember a certain All Star getting owned by Hakeem...Shit happens....just clean it up and move on....

[hsxvvd]

A few years with our D League affiliate Hawks will do him some good.

[Ice009]

So Baynes got owned by Blake I remember a certain All Star getting owned by Hakeem...Shit happens....just clean it up and move on....

Well, David only got owned in one series by Hakeem. Head to Head it's something like 30-12 in D-Rob's favour. That whole series has tainted the perception of Robinson. Sure Hakeem was better, his post game is what made him better, but David also had to guard him in single coverage most of the time in that series whereas the Rockets doubled teamed David.

[Vic Petro]

It ain't Tavares

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