oh look. A lawsuit filled in Kentucky against a county clerk for refusing to issue

[Blake]

" LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Four Kentucky couples are suing a clerk who is refusing to issue gay-marriage licenses — or any marriage licenses at all — following the U.S. Supreme Court decision that same-sex couples have a legal right to marry.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky filed a federal lawsuit against Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis on Thursday afternoon on behalf of two homosexual and two heterosexual couples, all of whom were turned away when they tried to get marriage licenses from Davis' office this week.

Davis has said that her Christian beliefs prevented her from complying with the Supreme Court decision, so she decided to issue no more marriage licenses to any couple, gay or straight. She could not be reached Thursday after the lawsuit was filed. Her office was already closed and she did not respond to an email......"

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-clerk-sued-not-issuing-gay-marriage-licenses-214105523.html

[ChumpDumper]

That reminds me of a rather one sided conversation I had recently:

What if there are 100 people and none of them want to issue the license?


How likely is that scenario? Be specific, tough guy.Specifically, https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/thumb/0384/62/1425484572648s.jpg

[Oh, Gee!!]

She took her ball and went home

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why a lawsuit though? Just fire her ass and be done with it.

[ChumpDumper]

Why a lawsuit though? Just fire her ass and be done with it.How can couples who want to marry fire her?

[Clipper Nation]

OP is known as the county cuck.

[ElNono]

Why a lawsuit though? Just fire her ass and be done with it.

The State can't legally fire her over that...

[ElNono]

She should be reassigned though, if she can't do her job.

[Wild Cobra]

The State can't legally fire her over that...

Yep.

Union protected job and all...

[ElNono]

Yep.

Union protected job and all...

No, just no. It's the law:

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/titlevii.cfm

[Wild Cobra]

No, just no. It's the law:

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/titlevii.cfm

It would have been nice of you to have quoted the pertinent parts.

[ElNono]

It would have been nice of you to have quoted the pertinent parts.

It would be nice of you to read and learn so you stop posting stupid shit...

It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer -
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;

[ElNono]

We discussed this more thoroughly on the "smh Texas" thread, BTW

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It would be nice of you to read and learn so you stop posting stupid shit...

It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer -
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;


:lol some things never change. he prob hasn't changed his mind anyway and thinks unions are still ultimately behind this you know

[ChumpDumper]

She could be guilty of a crime in Kentucky tho.

[TeyshaBlue]

It would be nice of you to read and learn so you stop posting stupid shit...

It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;


:lol

[Aztecfan03]

I thought Libs were saying if you won't issue gay marriage licences, don't issue any marriage licenses. So what's the problem?

[Th'Pusher]

I thought Libs were saying if you won't issue gay marriage licences, don't issue any marriage licenses. So what's the problem?
What lib said that?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Why a lawsuit though? Just fire her ass and be done with it.

I think she is an elected official tbh. Can't fire those. Impeachment or recall election perhaps.

[boutons_deux]

A Catholic bishop in Chicago refused to marry a same-sex couple. Religious pastors have ALWAYS had both the civil authority to perform legal marriages, AND the right of refusal for "moral" or other reasons.

They aren't govt employees who required to honor requests by taxpayers.

[Blake]

10:20 a.m.William Smith Jr. and James Yates walked out of the clerk's office, shaking their heads in bewilderment.

Two months ago, the day after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage across the nation, Yates got down on one knee and proposed to Smith, his partner of more than a decade.

They wanted to plan a summer wedding, so went days later to Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis' office for a license, and were turned away. That first time, they were shocked by the rejection.Davis cited her Christian belief against gay marriages and declared she would refuse licenses to all couples, gay or straight.

Two weeks ago, the morning after U.S. District Judge David Bunning ordered Davis to issue marriage licenses, Smith and Yates returned to her office. And when she rejected them again, their shock turned to anger.


On Thursday, they were turned away again.

"They just don't like gay people, they don't want us to get married," Yates said. "And they'd rather burn the earth and not let straight people in Rowan County get married either."....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-kentucky-clerk-refuses-grant-license-33355677

I really hope she digs in on her religious beliefs and gets hauled off to jail. The lol entertainment value of seeing the evangelical outrage will be off the charts

[Blake]

" MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against the Kentucky county clerk who has refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses, and the clerk will arrive at work Tuesday morning to face her moment of truth.Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will have to choose whether to issue marriage licenses, defying her Christian conviction, or continue to refuse them, defying a federal judge who could pummel her with fines or order that she be hauled off to jail...."

[Blake]

She's gonna wilt real quick when they start talking jail time imo

[boutons_deux]

Not doing her job? fire her.

[DarrinS]

Agree with boo. Just fire her. No one gives a shit anyway.

[DarrinS]

And Blake, I hope you and your partner are able to find someone else to issue your marriage license.

[Blake]

http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/29142740/kimdavisplaque-1024x687.jpg

Lol Baptist minister giving her a plaque honoring her for her fight. I wonder if she'll have to give it back when she finally gives in

Those are some weird sideburns

[Blake]

Agree with boo. Just fire her. No one gives a shit anyway.

You give enough of a shit to give your opinion


Because she is an elected official, only the legislature can remove her in an impeachment, which no one expects to happen. But Daniel J. Canon, one of the attorneys for the couples who filed suit to get their marriage licenses, told me that "she could be removed if she were criminally prosecuted for something," which would mean the judge finding her in contempt of his order and possibly even sending her to jail (as unlikely as that might be)...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8054238

[Blake]

And Blake, I hope you and your partner are able to find someone else to issue your marriage license.

Darrin drops mic

[101A]

" MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against the Kentucky county clerk who has refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses, and the clerk will arrive at work Tuesday morning to face her moment of truth.Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will have to choose whether to issue marriage licenses, defying her Christian conviction, or continue to refuse them, defying a federal judge who could pummel her with fines or order that she be hauled off to jail...."

The obvious solution is the resign.

[Blake]

Aw yeah....she stood her ground this morning


MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) — A county clerk in Kentucky has again refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, invoking her religious beliefs and "God's authority" — this time in defiance of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling against her.

On Tuesday morning, Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis' office denied the licenses to at least two couples. At first, Davis was in her office with the door closed and blinds drawn. But she emerged a few minutes later, telling the couples and the activists gathered there that her office is continuing to deny the licenses "under God's authority."

Davis asked David Moore and David Ermold, a couple who has been rejected four times by her office, to leave. They refused, surrounded by reporters and cameras.

"We're not leaving until we have a license," Ermold said.

"Then you're going to have a long day," Davis told him.

From the back of the room, Davis' supporters said: "Praise the Lord! ... Stand your ground."

Other activists shouted that Davis is a bigot and told her: "Do your job."...




high entertainment level tbh imo.

[Blake]

http://news.yahoo.com/clerk-issue-gay-marriage-licenses-court-ruling-083217111.html

[boutons_deux]

In Biblical Christian Taliban Reconstructionist bullshit, the ONLY authorities are the Bible, the church, the family.

Govt, if anywhere, comes next. iow, Christ's very own words Render Unto Caesar becomes inoperative

btw, an article pointed out how these assholes use the Bible selectively to support their prejudice and hate.

Where is the Repug/Fox/Christian hater Taliban BIBLICAL OUTRAGE! over Ashley Madison?

Maybe a bunch of the Holy Rollers have fucked, been fucking, gonna fuck somebody else's spouse?

"Do Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Wife" is also INOPERATIVE, overridden by your gonadal urges?

Selectively obey, interpret the 10 Commandments as you wish?

[ChumpDumper]

And Blake, I hope you and your partner are able to find someone else to issue your marriage license.
Darrin, is it your own homophobia that makes you think this is a cool message board insult?

[CosmicCowboy]

Kentucky? :lol

Chubby has probably been issuing licenses to brothers and sisters and first cousins for years.

[FromWayDowntown]

This is absurd. If you don't want to carry out the ministerial duties of an elected office, then don't seek election to the office. If you're going to seek election to the office, accept that you may have to do things that you don't agree with because they are ministerial duties of the office.

The bastardization of constitutional concepts to achieve political ends is remarkably non-constitutional.

[DMX7]

Not doing her job? fire her.

Completely agree... How could they even let this turn into a big story? They should have fired her on the spot.

[DMX7]

double post

[Blake]

It's a process to impeach her apparently

[Trainwreck2100]

This is absurd. If you don't want to carry out the ministerial duties of an elected office, then don't seek election to the office. If you're going to seek election to the office, accept that you may have to do things that you don't agree with because they are ministerial duties of the office.

The bastardization of constitutional concepts to achieve political ends is remarkably non-constitutional.
When she sought the election giving Homos a certificate wasn't a thing.

[FromWayDowntown]

When she sought the election giving Homos a certificate wasn't a thing.

It is now. When you seek office, it doesn't come with a guarantee that your responsibilities will never change.

[Blake]

Eh I dunno. I'm ok with her running for office and subsequently standing her ground if new changes go into effect that force her to do something she doesn't think is morally right.

I'm also ok with impeaching her for not rolling with the change.

[boutons_deux]

How could they even let this turn into a big story?

... very probably because the person/people with the authority to fire her agrees with, or at least sympathizes with, this poor persecuted Christian hater.

[Trainwreck2100]

She has a hearing with her deputies on Thursday. Da fuck the deputies do? The Homos brought her up on contempt charges but only want her fined not jailed. For the love of all that is holy please send her to the slammer.

[MultiTroll]

http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/DavidMoore-DavidErmoldx400.jpg
David and David.

http://www.gifwave.com/media/46687_movies-movie-sunglasses-the-breakfast-club-brian_200s.gif
And David.

lol

[MultiTroll]

What would be the funniest karma the clerk could run into?
Like lets say these guys were like Patty and Selma and worked for the DMV and Kentucky Clerk really needed something stamped and they refused. :lol

[Blake]

She has a hearing with her deputies on Thursday. Da fuck the deputies do? The Homos brought her up on contempt charges but only want her fined not jailed. For the love of all that is holy please send her to the slammer.


MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) — The latest on a Kentucky county clerk who has refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses despite a U.S. Supreme Court ruling against her (all times local):11:20 a.m.

An attorney says the Kentucky clerk who won't issue marriage licenses and all her deputy clerks have been called for a federal court hearing Thursday morning.

Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins says the federal court alerted him that a hearing is scheduled for 11 a.m. Thursday in Ashland.Watkins says clerk Kim Davis is summoned to attend, along with all the deputy clerks who work in her office.Davis stopped issuing licenses in the days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage. A federal judge ordered her to issue them, and an appeals court upheld that decision. Still, she turned away couples.

The Supreme Court declined to intervene on Monday, leaving Davis no legal grounds to refuse. But her office turned away several couples Tuesday morning. Davis invoked "God's authority" in doing so.

http://news.yahoo.com/latest-no-marriage-licenses-kentucky-clerks-office-121500253.html

[Spurminator]

It's amusing when people think they're Rosa Parks and they're actually George Wallace.

[DMX7]

It's amusing when people think they're Rosa Parks and they're actually George Wallace.

Bigotry now, bigotry tomorrow, bigotry forever!

[Trainwreck2100]

What would be the funniest karma the clerk could run into?
Like lets say these guys were like Patty and Selma and worked for the DMV and Kentucky Clerk really needed something stamped and they refused. :lol

Then she'd have to go to a different office which would take like half a day

[baseline bum]

It's amusing when people think they're Rosa Parks and they're actually George Wallace.

:lol

[Blake]

What would be the funniest karma the clerk could run into?
Like lets say these guys were like Patty and Selma and worked for the DMV and Kentucky Clerk really needed something stamped and they refused. :lol

Patty and Selma can actually be fired rather quickly. Kentucky clerk will have to be impeached.

[ElNono]

http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/29142740/kimdavisplaque-1024x687.jpg

Lol Baptist minister giving her a plaque honoring her for her fight. I wonder if she'll have to give it back when she finally gives in

Those are some weird sideburns

:lol wonder how much she can fetch for that at the pawn shop to cover for the upcoming fines and lawyers...

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol wonder how much she can fetch for that at the pawn shop to cover for the upcoming fines and lawyers...

Her lawyers free and she makes 80k a year

[ElNono]

Her lawyers free and she makes 80k a year

not for long :lol

[RandomGuy]

" LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Four Kentucky couples are suing a clerk who is refusing to issue gay-marriage licenses — or any marriage licenses at all — following the U.S. Supreme Court decision that same-sex couples have a legal right to marry.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky filed a federal lawsuit against Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis on Thursday afternoon on behalf of two homosexual and two heterosexual couples, all of whom were turned away when they tried to get marriage licenses from Davis' office this week.

Davis has said that her Christian beliefs prevented her from complying with the Supreme Court decision, so she decided to issue no more marriage licenses to any couple, gay or straight. She could not be reached Thursday after the lawsuit was filed. Her office was already closed and she did not respond to an email......"

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-clerk-sued-not-issuing-gay-marriage-licenses-214105523.html

Dude, better thread title: "Government official decides to get paid and not work... idiots applaud"

[RandomGuy]

It's amusing when people think they're Rosa Parks and they're actually George Wallace.

Well put. :tu

[SnakeBoy]

http://www.advocate.com/marriage-equality/2015/09/01/meet-trans-man-and-pansexual-woman-married-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis

Funny even though I had to look up wtf pansexual meant.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.advocate.com/marriage-equality/2015/09/01/meet-trans-man-and-pansexual-woman-married-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis

Funny even though I had to look up wtf pansexual meant.

usually it means they were raped as a kid

[Blake]

Dude, better thread title: "Government official decides to get paid and not work... idiots applaud"

Kentucky clerk wants it her way to collect pay and deny the gay but will lose on Thursday. Sources say she needs a lay and eat some hay. She just may.

[RandomGuy]

Kentucky clerk wants it her way to collect pay and deny the gay but will lose on Thursday. Sources say she needs a lay and eat some hay. She just may.

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

[Shastafarian]

Did you all know she's been divorced three times? She got knocked up with twins with her 3rd husband while still married to her 1st husband. And then she had her second husband raise said kids.

I did not make that up. (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/01/kentucky-clerk-fighting-gay-marriage-has-wed-four-times)

[Blake]

Did you all know she's been divorced three times? She got knocked up with twins with her 3rd husband while still married to her 1st husband. And then she had her second husband raise said kids.

I did not make that up. (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/01/kentucky-clerk-fighting-gay-marriage-has-wed-four-times)

:cry fighting the good Christian fight

[elbamba]

Did you all know she's been divorced three times? She got knocked up with twins with her 3rd husband while still married to her 1st husband. And then she had her second husband raise said kids.

I did not make that up. (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/01/kentucky-clerk-fighting-gay-marriage-has-wed-four-times)

Leading by example she is.

[elbamba]

I always like the slate wiped clean bit that Evangelical Christians pull. As if it is okay to "sin" and then just ask for forgiveness. Maybe she is forgiven, but I can't imagine God smiles on people who break the law or exercise prejudice and hatred towards others. If you really believe we are all Gods children, then you just have to learn to live with one another whether you agree/disagree with their choices.

[Spurminator]

http://i.imgur.com/BfKhb2U.png

I don't even know where to begin...

[Clipper Nation]

Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.

[MultiTroll]

Did you all know she's been divorced three times? She got knocked up with twins with her 3rd husband while still married to her 1st husband. And then she had her second husband raise said kids.

I did not make that up. (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/01/kentucky-clerk-fighting-gay-marriage-has-wed-four-times)
:lol Unreal.
Smh

[SnakeBoy]

Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.


:lol

[boutons_deux]

I don't even know where to begin...

Christian theocrat Taliban Krazy Kruz. If the job IN SECULAR GOVERNMENT conflicts with a person's religious principles (aka HATEFUL DISCRIMINATION), then the person should not take the job, or be fired, or impeached. The person swears to uphold the law, and same-sex marriage is now the law.

[SnakeBoy]

http://i.imgur.com/BfKhb2U.png

I don't even know where to begin...

What's the problem with that?

This chick is obviously inbred trailer trash but in her defense all she's asking for is an administrative change that that would allow the same sex marriage licenses to be issued without her having to sign her name approving of the marriage on the license.

[boutons_deux]

What's the problem with that?

This chick is obviously inbred trailer trash but in her defense all she's asking for is an administrative change that that would allow the same sex marriage licenses to be issued without her having to sign her name approving of the marriage on the license.

Krazy Kruz totally perverts the idea and history of religious oppression that sent religious refugees to America, and perverts American history, and fucking LIES that there is a war on faith.

There's only 23K people in that county. She is probably the only one who can formalize marriage licenses.

[Blake]

Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.

the republicans are the ones praising her for denying those rights.

She'll be impeached (fired) soon enough.

[Blake]

What's the problem with that?

:cry sadly it's there's a war on faith :cry

:cry why can't the religious folks just perform their acts of loving bigotry in peace :cry

[hitmanyr2k]

This lady has a G.E.D intellect level job and she's going to find a way to fuck it up over religious bullshit :lol Someone needs to explain to this woman that her job is to simply issue marriage licenses...basically to hand someone a piece of paper, that's it. No one is forcing her to go to a gay wedding or marry a gay couple.

[Th'Pusher]

What's the problem with that?

This chick is obviously inbred trailer trash but in her defense all she's asking for is an administrative change that that would allow the same sex marriage licenses to be issued without her having to sign her name approving of the marriage on the license.
Her signature is not "approving of the marriage on the license". Her signature simply indicates that the applicants meet the criteria for marriage, which in this case, they do.

[SnakeBoy]

Her signature is not "approving of the marriage on the license". Her signature simply indicates that the applicants meet the criteria for marriage, which in this case, they do.

Well I know that but that's not the way she perceives it so it shouldn't matter if she is correct. Her perception is what matters and the process should be changed to accommodate her.

[baseline bum]

Well I know that but that's not the way she perceives it so it shouldn't matter if she is correct. Her perception is what matters and the process should be changed to accommodate her.

Why should it be changed? Most jobs you have to occasionally do things you don't like nor agree with.

[Blake]

Her perception is what matters and the process should be changed to accommodate her.

Lolwut

[boutons_deux]

Her perception is what matters and the process should be changed to accommodate her.

Her "perception" is hypocritical, falsely Biblically justified HATE, and in no way, NEVER should supercede, override SECULAR law.

You rightwingnuts and the extremist assholes you elect are fundamentally the greatest threat to America.

[Clipper Nation]

You rightwingnuts and the extremist assholes you elect are fundamentally the greatest threat to America.


Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.

:lmao Boutons
:lmao Dumb faggot

[boutons_deux]

Lawrence O'Donnell just had another KY Christian supremacist, also a same-sex marriage license denier (there are 3 clerks now), county clerk on.

Clerk said KY constitution and his God trumps the US Constitution.

[Spurminator]

What's the problem with that?

This chick is obviously inbred trailer trash but in her defense all she's asking for is an administrative change that that would allow the same sex marriage licenses to be issued without her having to sign her name approving of the marriage on the license.

How about we start by him comparing people escaping the tyranny of the Church of England to people complaining about losing their right to enact religious tyranny on their subjects?

This bitch is grandstanding for a payday.

[Spurminator]

Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.

Party smack. The refuge of stupid people.

You are really angling for the boutons award for worst takes, aren't you? How are you not embarrassed at this point?

[DMX7]

Lawrence O'Donnell just had another KY Christian supremacist, also a same-sex marriage license denier (there are 3 clerks now), county clerk on.

Clerk said KY constitution and his God trumps the US Constitution.

Did Lawrence day he should be fired?

[boutons_deux]

Did Lawrence day he should be fired?

I didn't hear that. O'Donnell pushed him pretty hard, and the clerk went full "states rights" trumping the Constitution and went full Christian Taliban, as in "I obey God above all".

[Trainwreck2100]

How about we start by him comparing people escaping the tyranny of the Church of England to people complaining about losing their right to enact religious tyranny on their subjects?

This bitch is grandstanding for a payday.

yes forcing someone to get married a town over is akin to mass genocide based on faith

[boutons_deux]

13 Jobs Bible-Believing Kentucky Marriage Clerk Probably Shouldn’t Apply For


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bible-believing-kentucky-county-clerk-should-probably-not-apply-for-any-of-these-13-jobs_55e5b11ce4b0b7a9633a2d94?cps=gravity_5039_573 2701937833073144

[boutons_deux]

More news from Christian Taliban KY

http://www.today.com/style/kentucky-student-violates-high-school-dress-code-exposed-collarbone-t39211

[Spurminator]

yes forcing someone to get married a town over is akin to mass genocide based on faith

Tell Ted Cruz, I didn't introduce the metaphor into the conversation. Forcing someone to sign a marriage certificate for gays isn't any closer to genocide.

[Trainwreck2100]

Tell Ted Cruz, I didn't introduce the metaphor into the conversation. Forcing someone to sign a marriage certificate for gays isn't any closer to genocide.

I'd Ted Cruz was wing in using the metaphor then so we're you

[Spurminator]

I'd Ted Cruz was wing in using the metaphor then so we're you

Whatever you say, ducks.

[Trainwreck2100]

Whatever you say, ducks.

I'm sure you could use context clues to figure it out

[Quetzal-X]

The homely bitch should stop wasting taxpayer money twiddlin' those pink thumbs of hers and GTFO

[Spurminator]

I'm sure you could use context clues to figure it out

Oh I did, and I think "Whatever you say" still suffices as a response.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Apparently this chick is a Democrat, and she can't be fired because she was elected to her position by Democrat voters.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses

:lmao Eat shit, libs. Not a surprise that the party of Robert Byrd, Hugo Black and George Wallace is still denying people their civil rights.

she is on the wrong side of the law. she needs to comply, or be impeached. Who cares if she has a D or R by her name?

[Clipper Nation]

she is on the wrong side of the law. she needs to comply, or be impeached. Who cares if she has a D or R by her name?
If she had an R next to her name, the "all Republicans are bigots" circlejerk would be in full swing and we all know it.

Since she's a Democrat, it's "who cares what party she is?"

[DMX7]

They need to at least try to impeach her. I can't believe that is an elected office she holds.

[SnakeBoy]

Why should it be changed? Most jobs you have to occasionally do things you don't like nor agree with.

because she believes she will spend eternity burning in hell if she signs a same sex marriage license. Sure that is delusional but we as a society should play along with her delusion to avoid being bigoted.

[Sportcamper]

Kentucky? :lol

Chubby has probably been issuing licenses to brothers and sisters and first cousins for years.

Classic...:tu

[ChumpDumper]

because she believes she will spend eternity burning in hell if she signs a same sex marriage license. Sure that is delusional but we as a society should play along with her delusion to avoid being bigoted.Nope. She's an elected representative of the state and the state can't discriminate here. If this were some underling maybe the licenses could be passed off to someone else, but this chick is making state policy. She has no case whatsoever. She should just resign and get it over with.

[ChumpDumper]

And now she's in jail.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

[Spurminator]

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[Quetzal-X]

Good! Fuck that bitch! GTFO!

[elbamba]

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Huckabee is such a clown.

[Blake]

because she believes she will spend eternity burning in hell if she signs a same sex marriage license. Sure that is delusional but we as a society should play along with her delusion to avoid being bigoted.

Lolwut

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You can sometimes get away with ignoring lower courts but SCOTUS doesn't put up with contempt of their decisions.

[Blake]

If she had an R next to her name, the "all Republicans are bigots" circlejerk would be in full swing and we all know it.

Since she's a Democrat, it's "who cares what party she is?"

well the Republicans are the ones that are supporting her.

[Blake]

And now she's in jail.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

Martyrdom is the new orange

[Oh, Gee!!]

Huckabee is such a clown.

It's a jailbreak

[Oh, Gee!!]

Cuckabee. Am I the first to come up with it?

[Trainwreck2100]

You can sometimes get away with ignoring lower courts but SCOTUS doesn't put up with contempt of their decisions.

Too bad SCOTuS didn't make a decision in this case

[hitmanyr2k]

If she had an R next to her name, the "all Republicans are bigots" circlejerk would be in full swing and we all know it.

Since she's a Democrat, it's "who cares what party she is?"

Bible thumpers are in their own category whether they have a D or an R next to their name. And no one really pays any mind to bible thumpers until one over-zealous dullard makes a spectacle over herself in the name of God.

[Blake]

Too bad SCOTuS didn't make a decision in this case

precedent semantics

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Too bad SCOTuS didn't make a decision in this case

Their ruling was the basis for arresting them. Of course they have proxies.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” said Judge Bunning, who was appointed by President George W. Bush. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”

The order being violated was from SCOTUS.

[Trainwreck2100]

precedent semantics

Lol semantics

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'd Ted Cruz was wing in using the metaphor then so we're you

what?

[Blake]

Lol semantics

lol lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Their ruling was the basis for arresting them. Of course they have proxies.

So all the straight people she put out don't deserve justice? If this is based on a particular supreme court decision that had nothing to do with straights where's the justice for them?

[Trainwreck2100]

The order being violated was from SCOTUS.

She's in contempt from a case the SCOTuS deamed not worthy of their time

[Trainwreck2100]

what?

He was able to use context cluesto figure it out so can you

[Blake]

He was able to use context cluesto figure it out so can you

because who doesn't love a good puzzle to solve

[ChumpDumper]

She's in contempt from a case the SCOTuS deamed not worthy of their timeIt's not worth anyone's time tbh. It's settled law. Do you really think court cases don't count unless SCOTUS passes an actual ruling on them?

[101A]

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The ignorance/irony in this statement, as she IS the government official forcing HER religious views on ordinary citizens....

Sorry to state the obvious, but, damn.

[Blake]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-kentucky-clerk-refuses-grant-license-33355677

I really hope she digs in on her religious beliefs and gets hauled off to jail. The lol entertainment value of seeing the evangelical outrage will be off the charts

Soooooooo good


.... According to hoards of citizens, her own governor, multiple courts, the ACLU, and at least three presidential candidates, Davis should check her First Amendment rights at the door -- as well as rights protected by the Kentucky Constitution and her state’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

That is appalling, but not surprising or new. Two thousand years ago, the apostles were ordered to stop preaching Christ, but like Davis they refused to obey man’s law over God’s, despite the threat of punishment.

What is new, however, is the shameful abandonment of Davis by so many Christians and conservatives. One of America’s bravest Christians is being thrown under the bus for simply following the example of Christ’s original followers.

Almost as disturbing are conservatives who are pressing Davis to capitulate -- suggesting or demanding that Davis hand out homosexual ‘marriage’ licenses or resign. Such a position shows little appreciation for religious freedom and the rights of conscience.......


....more

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/john-henry-westen/jailed-christian-clerk-kim-davis-hero-not-villain

[FuzzyLumpkins]

She's in contempt from a case the SCOTuS deamed not worthy of their time

:lol your ship is sinking sir.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

[Trainwreck2100]

Do you really think court cases don't count unless SCOTUS passes an actual ruling on them?

No I don't think that that was exactly my point

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Michigan, Kentucky, Ohio, and Tennessee define marriage as a union between one man and one woman. The petitioners, 14 same-sex couples and two men whose same-sex partners are deceased, filed suits in Federal District Courts in their home States, claiming that respondent state officials violate the Fourteenth Amendment by denying them the right to marry or to have marriages lawfully performed in another State given full recognition. Each District Court ruled in petitioners’ favor, but the Sixth Circuit consolidated the cases and reversed.


No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right. The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed.
It is so ordered.

[hitmanyr2k]

She's going to go through all of this shit because she can't hand a piece of paper over to strangers :wtf

[Trainwreck2100]

So you can copy.....and paste, fascinating not you hitman

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you can copy.....and paste, fascinating not you hitman

I posted the SCOTUS decision telling KY officials to stop denying same sex marriage licenses. What's fascinating is that you need your hand held to connect the dots.

[Trainwreck2100]

That's great now how does that put her in contempt of court, the crime with which she's charged? Oh that's right it doesn't her failure to listen to a Kentucky judge made this contempt of court. Her loss of appeal made it contempt of court. And the Supreme Court not listening to her means it want an issue for the Supreme court. The claim you made was this was athe Supreme court flexing their muscle. When it's really just what states do when people break the law. The state sends them to jail. What's fascinating was that you needed your hand held to connect the dots

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's great now how does that put her in contempt of court, the crime with which she's charged? Oh that's right it doesn't her failure to listen to a Kentucky judge made this contempt of court. Her loss of appeal made it contempt of court. And the Supreme Court not listening to her means it want an issue for the Supreme court. The claim you made was this was athe Supreme court flexing their muscle. When it's really just what states do when people break the law. The state sends them to jail. What's fascinating was that you needed your hand held to connect the dots

:lol things can be many things at once and interrelated particularly with law. If you think the lower court didn't consider the SCOTUS ruling passed down this summer that wouldn't surprise me.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol things can be many things at once and interrelated particularly with law. If you think the lower court didn't consider the SCOTUS ruling passed down this summer that wouldn't surprise me.

Not remotely near what I said

[ElNono]

Wonder if this whole thing gonna end up in her 5th divorce, tbh... :lol

[Shastafarian]

She remains in jail because she refuses to allow her deputies (5 of 6 have agreed to do her job for her) to issue marriage licenses. I admittedly don't know the procedures well enough, but what could her reasoning be for this refusal? She's not signing her name I don't think.

[ElNono]

She remains in jail because she refuses to allow her deputies (5 of 6 have agreed to do her job for her) to issue marriage licenses. I admittedly don't know the procedures well enough, but what could her reasoning be for this refusal? She's not signing her name I don't think.

I believe her name is on the licenses.

[Shastafarian]

I believe her name is on the licenses.

But not her signature. She's trying to co-opt her own rights (perceived, not actual) into forcing her beliefs on others (deputies). If she had no ground to stand on before, she's basically floating in space now. Who is paying for her legal counsel btw?

[Shastafarian]

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not remotely near what I said

I don't see you saying much of anything then. SCOTUS decision was the driving force behind the lower court ruling. No SCOTUS ruling then she wouldn't have gone to jail.

[Shastafarian]

My favorite so far:

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[DarrinS]

I don't support this woman, but this story has way too much longevity.

[ElNono]

But not her signature. She's trying to co-opt her own rights (perceived, not actual) into forcing her beliefs on others (deputies). If she had no ground to stand on before, she's basically floating in space now. Who is paying for her legal counsel btw?

I don't disagree. Plus, AFAIK, it's a government license, not her personal license. She can consciously object all she wants, but when she's conducting her ministerial work for the government, it's government speech.

She's clearly a very confused person that doesn't understand the difference between her personal beliefs and simply conducting her job. And if she can't separate them, then she needs to step down.

[ChumpDumper]

No I don't think that that was exactly my pointWhat exactly is your point?

[Shastafarian]

I don't disagree. Plus, AFAIK, it's a government license, not her personal license. She can consciously object all she wants, but when she's conducting her ministerial work for the government, it's government speech.

She's clearly a very confused person that doesn't understand the difference between her personal beliefs and simply conducting her job. And if she can't separate them, then she needs to step down.

Right agreed. The problem is there are so many people, judging by social media, who are just as "confused" as she is about how our constitution and legal system work.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't see you saying much of anything then. SCOTUS decision was the driving force behind the lower court ruling. No SCOTUS ruling then she wouldn't have gone to jail.

You said "SCOTuS doesn't put up with contempt of its decisions" SCOTuS have fuck all to do with this case. She's on contempt for violating a judges order. And when she went to SCOTuS they didn't give a fuck. And said fuck off

[Trainwreck2100]

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Can you imagine what that would do to our insurance premiums

[Shastafarian]

Dan Savage had a good point/thought experiment. What if a Quaker govt official refused to give out gun permits on the sincere religious belief in pacifism? What would conservatives who support Kim Davis say then? I have a feeling they'd cling to dem guns and toss her straight under a bus. Hopefully a big one.

[Spurminator]

I don't support this woman, but this story has way too much longevity.

The story hasn't ended. You don't get to arbitrarily end news stories because you're tired of hearing about them. I know you live in a two-sided "cheer for my side and ignore all of its flaws" world but this how news works.

[DarrinS]

The story hasn't ended. You don't get to arbitrarily end news stories because you're tired of hearing about them. I know you live in a two-sided "cheer for my side and ignore all of its flaws" world but this how news works.

No one died because of this dumb woman.

[Spurminator]

No one died because of this dumb woman.

I'm glad you're not a news editor.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You said "SCOTuS doesn't put up with contempt of its decisions" SCOTuS have fuck all to do with this case. She's on contempt for violating a judges order. And when she went to SCOTuS they didn't give a fuck. And said fuck off

What court order do you think she was violating? Do you think that citizens start off by appealing to SCOTUS or do you think they file with the lower court?

They filed a contempt of the the SCOTUS ruling case in federal court. The judge simply honored the SCOTUS ruling.

[Winehole23]

No one died because of this dumb woman.short of physical annihilation by LE, the constitutional rights of the citizen can be abrogated by local officials based on totally invidious glosses of he law contradicting the law of the land?

to be totally clear, are you saying it's ok with you when the constitution is violated and personal rights were arbitrarily curtailed because no one died?

[JoeChalupa]

Some women you just can't reach. So you get what we had here yesterday, which is the way she wants it. Well, she gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

Nobody always has to die for a law to be broken. She is clearly guilty of breaking the law and that is indisputable.

[boutons_deux]

This woman and the two other KY county clerks also refusing to issue marriage licenses are not alone.

I'm sure they've been put up to this, assured they would have financial and legal support. They will be supported and rewarded by donations from Christian Taliban, etc. They won't "suffer". Any chance county jail staff beat the shit out of her or leave a plastic garbage bag in her cell?

Why? It's Christian Taliban fundraising, rouse the rabble, proof that Christians are persecuted in THEIR own Christian country.

See how the Repug Klowns are running with it:

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“Today, judicial lawlessness crossed into judicial tyranny,” Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, said in a statement. ( go Hahvahd! excellent graduate you produced! )

A lawyer for Ms. Davis, Roger Gannam, sharply criticized the ruling and portrayed it as a stark warning to Christians across the country.

“Today, for the first time in history, an American citizen has been incarcerated for having the belief of conscience that marriage is the union of one man and one woman,”

“I didn’t have to think about it,” Ms. Davis said. “There was no choice there.”

“Once she promises to obey, or once the judge determines that more jail time will not encourage her to obey, they’ll let her out. But she could be in there for a year; it’s conceivable. Judges really don’t like it when people disobey their order.”

Jurists like Judge Bunning have few options to prod compliance, but they are powerful: fines or incarceration. The legal issue — that no one, whether a government or an individual engaged in civil disobedience has standing to flout a court order — is well established.

“Tell Judge Bunning,” Mr. Davis said, “he’s a butt.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=1

“I didn’t have to think about it,”

:lol Of course not. Christian Taliban select whatever in the Bible supports their hate. No reflection needed. Blindly follow your prejudice and hate, it's all right there in the Bible, but Covet Thy Neighbors Wife (Ashley Madison), total silence from the Repugs and Christian Taliban.

[RandomGuy]

short of physical annihilation by LE, the constitutional rights of the citizen can be abrogated by local officials based on totally invidious glosses of he law contradicting the law of the land/ to be totally clear, are you saying that's ok with you that the constitution is violated and personal rights were arbitrarily curtailed because no one died?

That's ok, as long as it isn't rights he likes for himself or the group he thinks he is part of. That is sort of how privilege works.

[DarrinS]

That's ok, as long as it isn't rights he likes for himself or the group he thinks he is part of. That is sort of how privilege works.


Last time I checked, this woman is going to jail. Can we move on to more interesting news stories?

[Blake]

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Lol

[Blake]

Last time I checked, this woman is going to jail. Can we move on to more interesting news stories?

You need someone to move your mouse for you?

[Blake]

Some women you just can't reach. So you get what we had here yesterday, which is the way she wants it. Well, she gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

Why are you making this a gender thing?

[DarrinS]

Why are you making this a gender thing?

You don't know the movie?

[pgardn]

This is very simple...


Its time to quit your job if the job description involves something you cannot do.

For prospective County Clerks:

Dont apply for a job you cannot do.

[Trainwreck2100]

What court order do you think she was violating? Do you think that citizens start off by appealing to SCOTUS or do you think they file with the lower court?

They filed a contempt of the the SCOTUS ruling case in federal court. The judge simply honored the SCOTUS ruling.


Your statement was that the "supreme court doesn't put up with contempt of it's decision" this wasn't a supreme court case ergo the supreme court had nothing to do with it why is that so hard for you to understand.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm tired of the story, though I agree it's not over yet.

The story should be dead because the clerk has absolutely no legal defense for her actions and those who try to defend her based on her "constitutional rights" are just making up constitutional concepts as they go along to sound the dog whistle for partisans who will buy into just about anything that is pitched to them as a ground for being indignant.

The worrisome thing to me about the continuation of the story is that if she gains fame (and, perhaps, a degree of wealth) from this, the story could easily encourage others to take such groundless stands in the hope of parlaying "faith" into comfort, at the expense of the hard-earned rights of other citizens.

And she is being held in contempt for violating an order of the Supreme Court. A federal judge in Kentucky enjoined her refusal to issue licenses and told her that he would hold her in contempt if she refused to comply with the Supreme Court's order. She tried to get the Supreme Court to stay the Kentucky judge's order, but Justice Kagan denied that request. And, when she failed to fulfill the Supreme Court's mandate (which violated the injunction) she was -- as would be true of most any other person whose violation of an injunction is pointed out to the court -- held in contempt. Judge Bunning's injunction depends entirely upon the Supreme Court's order in Obergefell, so she's in contempt for her violation of that order. That's true without regard to whether the Supreme Court actually issued the contemnor's penalty.

[boutons_deux]

KY Clerk’s Office Issues Marriage License To Gay Couple, Ending Ban

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015-09-04-kentucky-clerk-gay-marriage-license-reuters-668x501.jpg

http://www.nationalmemo.com/kentucky-clerks-office-issues-marriage-license-to-gay-couple-ending-ban/

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm tired of the story, though I agree it's not over yet.

The story should be dead because the clerk has absolutely no legal defense for her actions and those who try to defend her based on her "constitutional rights" are just making up constitutional concepts as they go along to sound the dog whistle for partisans who will buy into just about anything that is pitched to them as a ground for being indignant.

The worrisome thing to me about the continuation of the story is that if she gains fame (and, perhaps, a degree of wealth) from this, the story could easily encourage others to take such groundless stands in the hope of parlaying "faith" into comfort, at the expense of the hard-earned rights of other citizens.

And she is being held in contempt for violating an order of the Supreme Court. A federal judge in Kentucky enjoined her refusal to issue licenses and told her that he would hold her in contempt if she refused to comply with the Supreme Court's order. She tried to get the Supreme Court to stay the Kentucky judge's order, but Justice Kagan denied that request. And, when she failed to fulfill the Supreme Court's mandate (which violated the injunction) she was -- as would be true of most any other person whose violation of an injunction is pointed out to the court -- held in contempt. Judge Bunning's injunction depends entirely upon the Supreme Court's order in Obergefell, so she's in contempt for her violation of that order. That's true without regard to whether the Supreme Court actually issued the contemnor's penalty.

ok fine great nobody's arguing that, but what did the supreme court do to punish her? Last I checked they didn't do anything

[FromWayDowntown]

ok fine great nobody's arguing that, but what did the supreme court do to punish her? Last I checked they didn't do anything

True. Parse away.

[Blake]

You don't know the movie?

Eh.

[Blake]

Your statement was that the "supreme court doesn't put up with contempt of it's decision" this wasn't a supreme court case ergo the supreme court had nothing to do with it why is that so hard for you to understand.

Why are you trying to pick nits here.

[Trainwreck2100]

True. Parse away.

There was a on sentence claim that was made it took "parse" just to show why the claim was wrong because some people couldn't figure it out.

[Trainwreck2100]

Why are you trying to pick nits here.

It's not about picking nits a claim was made it was incorrect, I posted that it wasn't correct and had my claim challenged.

[Oh, Gee!!]

There was a on sentence claim that was made it took "parse" just to show why the claim was wrong because some people couldn't figure it out.

is this another puzzle?

[Trainwreck2100]

is this another puzzle?

It's funny because you couldn't figure out "wing" to "wrong" using basic context clues. (That's not a puzzle that's youin thisthread) And now apparently you can't read a thread. Let me ask you what is it you don't understand. It's my experience that it's best to find out where the deficiency is before attempting to explain something. We already know you can't read for context so go.

[Oh, Gee!!]

It's funny because you couldn't figure out "wing" to "wrong" using basic context clues. (That's not a puzzle that's youin thisthread) And now apparently you can't read a thread. Let me ask you what is it you don't understand. It's my experience that it's best to find out where the deficiency is before attempting to explain something. We already know you can't read for context so go.

The way you structure sentences confuses me.

[Blake]

It's not about picking nits a claim was made it was incorrect, I posted that it wasn't correct and had my claim challenged.

Because it's a big deal!

[DarrinS]

Eh.

He was quoting Cool Hand Luke

[RD2191]

OP's wife cheated on him for 2 years.

[Trainwreck2100]

Because it's a big deal!

Irrelevant

[apalisoc_9]

Meh, christinity has been on a demise in like forever. No on really practices the religion. Most if not all are sunday cherry picking church goers

Seriously..this hoe is an adulterer..just issue the damn papers.

[Blake]

Irrelevant

well yeah, the point is that your point is irrelevant. But hey, nothing stopping you from giving yourself a trophy for believing you won the internets. :tu

[Blake]

OP's wife cheated on him for 2 years.

OP residing rent free

[RD2191]

Did your wife's lover pay rent for living in that pussy?

[Trainwreck2100]

well yeah, the point is that your point is irrelevant. But hey, nothing stopping you from giving yourself a trophy for believing you won the internets. :tu

Based on what what my claim was made my claim was challenged and I defended it. You made a claim which I assume was sarcasm that it was a "big deal" but it's value is irrelevant

[Trainwreck2100]

well yeah, the point is that your point is irrelevant. But hey, nothing stopping you from giving yourself a trophy for believing you won the internets. :tu

Based on what what my claim was made my claim was challenged and I defended it. You made a claim which I assume was sarcasm that it was a "big deal" but it's value is irrelevant

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your statement was that the "supreme court doesn't put up with contempt of it's decision" this wasn't a supreme court case ergo the supreme court had nothing to do with it why is that so hard for you to understand.

So you think that the SCOTUS justices were not involved at all in a contempt lawsuit filed just days after their landmark case. The case was contempt of the SCOTUS decision. As I said before you are just ignorant to the process. Also you are fixating on minutiae. Bravo.

[Blake]

Based on what what my claim was made my claim was challenged and I defended it. You made a claim which I assume was sarcasm that it was a "big deal" but it's value is irrelevant

Wut

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wut

What he says is important and what you say is irrelevant.

[Blake]

Did your wife's lover pay rent for living in that pussy?

Wow so you don't even care about the topic. You're going straight past it, coming right to me.

I must really make you really angry and must be taking up an awful lot of mental ram.

[RandomGuy]

Last time I checked, this woman is going to jail. Can we move on to more interesting news stories?

I certainly can join you in that wish. A tempest in a teacup. One person deciding not to do their job is not overly interesting, imo.

[RD2191]

Wow so you don't even care about the topic. You're going straight past it, coming right to me.

I must really make you really angry and must be taking up an awful lot of mental ram.

Lol. Faggot.

[Clipper Nation]

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Blakeold would start a thread praising it and referring to anyone who disagreed as "bigots" and "afraid of Muslims."

[Blake]

Lol. Faggot.

rofl completely obsessed

[Blake]

Blakeold would start a thread praising it and referring to anyone who disagreed as "bigots" and "afraid of Muslims."

nope.

Lease free.

[Trainwreck2100]

So you think that the SCOTUS justices were not involved at all in a contempt lawsuit filed just days after their landmark case. The case was contempt of the SCOTUS decision. As I said before you are just ignorant to the process. Also you are fixating on minutiae. Bravo.

So now we're dealing in things that can't be confirmed or denied. OK

[Trainwreck2100]

Wut

You said I feel I "won internet" I don't why would I.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So now we're dealing in things that can't be confirmed or denied. OK

Read the lower courts judgment. If you think they do not bring up the SCOTUS decision as the 400 lbs case law gorilla in the room then you are a fool. Again, SCOTUS's decision is the driving force as it was contempt of their judgment.

[Trainwreck2100]

Read the lower courts judgment. If you think they do not bring up the SCOTUS decision as the 400 lbs case law gorilla in the room then you are a fool. Again, SCOTUS's decision is the driving force as it was contempt of their judgment.

The lower court judgment aka the judgement she is in contempt over aka the reason she's in jail. Bolded has nothing to do with your original claim. Nobody is arguing SCOTuS's decision. You said the SCOTuS wouldn't put up with someone in contempt of their ruling. So what did SCOTuS do to punish this lady? Or is you answer they did it behind close doors under the table which can neither be confirmed or denied

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The lower court judgment aka the judgement she is in contempt over aka the reason she's in jail. Bolded has nothing to do with your original claim. Nobody is arguing SCOTuS's decision. You said the SCOTuS wouldn't put up with someone in contempt of their ruling. So what did SCOTuS do to punish this lady? Or is you answer they did it behind close doors under the table which can neither be confirmed or denied

What difference does it make? Chick was in contempt of the SCOTUS decision. The courts do not put up with that. You want to split hairs have at it. Missing the forest for a tree.

[Trainwreck2100]

What difference does it make? Chick was in contempt of the SCOTUS decision. The courts do not put up with that. You want to split hairs have at it. Missing the forest for a tree.

that's not what you said originally, you listed SCOTuS by name. How is that splitting hairs?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:sleep


The ACLU of Kentucky filed a motion in federal court Tuesday asking a judge to hold county clerk Kim Davis in contempt of court for failing to comply with the Supreme Court and issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

In court papers, the ACLU lawyers note that following the Supreme Court's order late Monday night, the plaintiffs in their case went to the Rowan County Clerk's office at 8 a.m. Tuesday to obtain a marriage license.

"Unfortunately , they were again denied by a deputy clerk who asserted that no marriage licenses would be issued," the ACLU said in a statement. The lawyers argue that Davis has "violated a definite and specific order" and that the Court is left "with no choice but to hold her in contempt."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politics/kentucky-gay-marriage-licenses-supreme-court/

Lower court enforced SCOTUS order.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Trainwreck2100

http://spectrum.suntimes.com/news/10/155/1513/supreme-court-rejects-kim-daviss-petition-stay/


The U.S. Supreme Court has denied Rowan County clerk Kim Davis’s request to have a stay on her refusal to issue marriage licenses while she sought an appeal on an earlier judge’s ruling

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yesterday a federal district judge sent Kim Davis, a Kentucky county clerk, to jail after she continued to refuse to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples even after the Supreme Court declined to stay the judge’s ruling ordering her to do so. Lyle Denniston covered the latest developments for this blog, with other commentary coming from Howard Wasserman in two posts at PrawfsBlawg, Steven Mazie for The Economist, and Robin Wilson at the Illinois Law Faculty Blog.

http://www.scotusblog.com/

[Trainwreck2100]

:sleep



http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politics/kentucky-gay-marriage-licenses-supreme-court/

Lower court enforced SCOTUS order.
You do realize that your article lists in the beginning that the aclu filed a motion, and that's different than her crime. She was ordered by a federal judge to give out marriage licenses this particular judge was not a member of SCOtuS. But besides all of that, you're posting the exact same thing we get it. However you said theat SCOTuS doesn't ....Contempt other stuff" paraphrasing. So what did SCOTuS do to her for her being in contempt. I'm not asking what SCOTuS did do put her in contempt I'm saying you made the claim you said it. So once again what did SCOTuS to to punish this lady.

[Trainwreck2100]

Trainwreck2100

http://spectrum.suntimes.com/news/10/155/1513/supreme-court-rejects-kim-daviss-petition-stay/

yeah that was in my original reply to you, go look at it. You're the one who said it was wrong and now you're using it in you own defense

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yeah that was in my original reply to you, go look at it. You're the one who said it was wrong and now you're using it in you own defense

Was SCOTUS directly involved with Kim Davis or not?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do realize that your article lists in the beginning that the aclu filed a motion, and that's different than her crime. She was ordered by a federal judge to give out marriage licenses this particular judge was not a member of SCOtuS. But besides all of that, you're posting the exact same thing we get it. However you said theat SCOTuS doesn't ....Contempt other stuff" paraphrasing. So what did SCOTuS do to her for her being in contempt. I'm not asking what SCOTuS did do put her in contempt I'm saying you made the claim you said it. So once again what did SCOTuS to to punish this lady.

Wrong. Kim Davis asked for a stay from SCOTUS. SCOTUS said no you will do this. She ignores SCOTUS order. ACLU files in federal court for contempt and the lower court honors the SCOTUS decision and jails her.

Lower court didn't order her to do shit. SCOTUS had already done so twice.

[Trainwreck2100]

Was SCOTUS directly involved with Kim Davis or not?

Once again this is what you said

You can sometimes get away with ignoring lower courts but SCOTUS doesn't put up with contempt of their decisions.


So what did SCOTuS do to Davis to show that they "don't put up with contempt of their decisions" Oh that's right they did nothing as you so eloquently posted yourself in post number 202. Because some cases aren't fit for the supreme court. Davis's case was one of them, the Davis case is a case of ignoring a federal judge who ruled against her.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Once again this is what you said


So what did SCOTuS do to Davis to show that they "don't put up with contempt of their decisions" Oh that's right they did nothing as you so eloquently posted yourself in post number 202. Because some cases aren't fit for the supreme court. Davis's case was one of them, the Davis case is a case of ignoring a federal judge who ruled against her.

The federal courts work together. You do not appeal directly to the supreme court you have to go up the food chain. SCOTUS rejected the stay after the feds started implementing SCOTUS' order. ACLU filed in federal court.

I know you want SCOTUS not involved but SCOTUS is directly instrumental in the process that brought Kim Davis to the clink.

[Trainwreck2100]

The federal courts work together. You do not appeal directly to the supreme court you have to go up the food chain. SCOTUS rejected the stay after the feds started implementing SCOTUS' order. ACLU filed in federal court.

I know you want SCOTUS not involved but SCOTUS is directly instrumental in the process that brought Kim Davis to the clink.

directly involved how

[FuzzyLumpkins]

directly involved how

They rejected her stay creating the basis for the contempt case. This should not be hard.

[Trainwreck2100]

Wrong. Kim Davis asked for a stay from SCOTUS. SCOTUS said no you will do this. She ignores SCOTUS order. ACLU files in federal court for contempt and the lower court honors the SCOTUS decision and jails her.

Lower court didn't order her to do shit. SCOTUS had already done so twice.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


A federal judge ruled Wednesday that Rowan County, Ky., Clerk Kim Davis must issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples despite her personal beliefs.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/08/12/judge-ky-county-clerk-must-issue-marriage-licenses/31563001/

looks like a lower court doing something to me i'm sorry let me check and see if he's a member of the SCOTuS.....oh wait he's not

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why do you think the case was seen and her ass was in jail within two days of ACLU filing? You familiar with how a federal docket typically works?

[Trainwreck2100]

They rejected her stay creating the basis for the contempt case. This should not be hard.

Scotus also refuses stays for death row inmates. Are they the directly involved in that inmates execution? The court does that it's what they do it's part of their job

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol



:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/08/12/judge-ky-county-clerk-must-issue-marriage-licenses/31563001/

looks like a lower court doing something to me i'm sorry let me check and see if he's a member of the SCOTuS.....oh wait he's not

Yeah I was wrong on that. Apparently that court had begun administering the SCOTUS order even before she asked for a stay. IOW the order of events was:

SCOTUS rules.
Lower court enforces.
Davis asks for stay.
SCOTUS rejects.
Davis ignores.
ACLU files.
Lower court enforces.

[Trainwreck2100]

Why do you think the case was seen and her ass was in jail within two days of ACLU filing? You familiar with how a federal docket typically works?

As I posted earlier a judge gave her an order and she refused it, that's what contempt is. Now what did SCOTuS do to show how they don't "put up with contempt of their decisions" besides in this case they doing nothing and leaving it up to the lower court to handle thier own business, because that's what they did

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Scotus also refuses stays for death row inmates. Are they the directly involved in that inmates execution? The court does that it's what they do it's part of their job

Of course they would be directly involved. They made a decision relating to the case.

Are they causative? No but in this case the SCOTUS rule was causative. That is the distinction.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As I posted earlier a judge gave her an order and she refused it, that's what contempt is. Now what did SCOTuS do to show how they don't "put up with contempt of their decisions" besides in this case they doing nothing and leaving it up to the lower court because that's what they did

You just seem lost as to how the power structure of the court's works. The lower court is enforcing the SCOTUS order. Because it is a SCOTUS order they are enforcing they can bring the hammer down with impunity. You kind of miss the point of what is going on here. They just fast tracked over 6 months of docket and immediately threw someone in jail.


District Judge David L. Bunning had issued the order to implement the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges after the state’s governor ordered all county clerks to give official permission to gay and lesbian couples to wed.

http://www.scotusblog.com/

[Trainwreck2100]

Yeah I was wrong on that. Apparently that court had begun administering the SCOTUS order even before she asked for a stay. IOW the order of events was:

SCOTUS rules.
Lower court enforces.
Davis asks for stay.
SCOTUS rejects.
Davis ignores.
ACLU files.
Lower court enforces.

That was obvious

[Trainwreck2100]

You just seem lost as to how the power structure of the court's works. The lower court is enforcing the SCOTUS order. Because it is a SCOTUS order they are enforcing they can bring the hammer down with impunity. You kind of miss the point of what is going on here. They just fast tracked over 6 months of docket and immediately threw someone in jail.



http://www.scotusblog.com/

Did SCOTuS do that or did the lower court do that? How it works is court gives an order(in this case a judge in kentucky), you don't listen to order, you go to jail. That's contempt. She was ordered to do something by a federal judge and she didn't so she went to jail. Which happens everyday probably. Now what did the supreme court do to this lady besides say her case wasn't worth their time?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you holding up hope that SCOTUS is going to reverse this or something?

I have no idea what your point is besides arguing minutiae. I don't see the lowers courts order as distinct from the SCOTUS order seeing that the lower court was implementing the SCOTUS order.

[Shastafarian]

What the fuck are you two arguing about?

Oregon judge saw how lucrative this is gonna be for Kimmy Davis and has stopped marrying people. Should be fun watching the nutjobs come out of the woodwork.

[Trainwreck2100]

What the fuck are you two arguing about?

Oregon judge saw how lucrative this is gonna be for Kimmy Davis and has stopped marrying people. Should be fun watching the nutjobs come out of the woodwork.

There's also that Tennessee judge who stopped divorcing people until the Supreme court outlines what a divorce

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What the fuck are you two arguing about?

Oregon judge saw how lucrative this is gonna be for Kimmy Davis and has stopped marrying people. Should be fun watching the nutjobs come out of the woodwork.

It's a byproduct of how I troll. I go pedantic asshole and people desperately look to prove me wrong.

He sees the courts as distinct. I see the lower court implementing a SCOTUS order. Overall it's completely fucking meaningless but this isn't about KY. This is about him desperately trying to win a point. Any point no matter how trivial frankly.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's a byproduct of how I troll. I go pedantic asshole and people desperately look to prove me wrong.

He sees the courts as distinct. I see the lower court implementing a SCOTUS order. Overall it's completely fucking meaningless but this isn't about KY. This is about him desperately trying to win a point. Any point no matter how trivial frankly.

Except for that part where you had to admit admit you were wrong. That was so obvious by your statement

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Except for that part where you had to admit admit you were wrong


Yeah I was wrong on that. Apparently that court had begun administering the SCOTUS order even before she asked for a stay. IOW the order of events was:

SCOTUS rules.
Lower court enforces.
Davis asks for stay.
SCOTUS rejects.
Davis ignores.
ACLU files.
Lower court enforces.


That was obvious

This is what I am talking about regarding you being butthurt due to my trolling technique. It's also pretty obvious that I am more than okay with admitting a mistake. Your dumbass should know this seeing as you were oh so gleeful last night when I did.

I know that you think you are scoring points on me but to anyone else reading this you look intellectually insecure. That should be obvious.

[Trainwreck2100]

This is what I am talking about regarding you being butthurt due to my trolling technique. It's also pretty obvious that I am more than okay with admitting a mistake. Your dumbass should know this seeing as you were oh so gleeful last night when I did.

I know that you think you are scoring points on me but to anyone else reading this you look intellectually insecure. That should be obvious.
It's not about score you were wrong Period. It's not about trolling as i told Blake in this very thread being right isn't about keeping score. You were wrong and it it took you two days to see it. As I said it was obvious from your post that you were wrong. See I don't need to troll like you do I just need to be correct.

[Blake]

I just need to be correct.

Over something extremely trivial and ultimately irrelevant.

[Trainwreck2100]

Over something extremely trivial and ultimately irrelevant.

Irrelevant

[Blake]

Irrelevant

Correct. But keep it up for another 10 pages.

[Trainwreck2100]

Correct. But keep it up for another 10 pages.

Is there a particular issue you have or are you just being sardonic for no reason?

[boutons_deux]

Conservatives twist logic to portray Kim Davis as ‘Judeo-Christian martyr’ — like Rosa Parks and MLK

Conservatives are launching some wild — and frequently dishonest — claims to compare jailed county clerk Kim Davis to some of history’s most respected human rights advocates.

The Kentucky county clerk’s attorneys, who compared Davis to Jews living in Nazi Germany (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/lawyer-representing-kim-davis-compares-her-punishment-for-flouting-law-to-being-jewish-under-the-nazis/), claimed Friday the elected official was a “victim” of governmental tyranny.

“Not long ago 75 percent of Kentuckians passed the state’s marriage amendment,” said Mat Staver (http://barbwire.com/2015/09/04/breaking-liberty-counsel-kim-davis-press-conference-today-at-kentucky-jail/), founder of the Liberty Counsel group representing the defiant clerk.
“Today a Christian is imprisoned for believing what the voters affirmed: marriage is between a man and a woman. Five people on the Supreme Court imposed their will on 320 million Americans and unleashed a torrent of assaults against people of faith. Kim Davis is the first victim of this tragedy.”

Staver claimed the Rowan County clerk was jailed for her “Judeo-Christian beliefs” — when in fact U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning ordered Davis held because she ignored multiple court orders and refused an offer to avoid jail by agreeing to follow state directives and federal court rulings.

Davis was offered another chance to keep her taxpayer-funded job and avoid jail when Bunning asked her to authorize her deputy clerks — five out of six of whom agreed — to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, and she again refused.

“Kim joins a long list of people who were imprisoned for their conscience,” Staver said. “People who today we admire, like Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Jan Huss, John Bunyan, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and more. Each had their own cause, but they all share the same resolve not to violate their conscience.”

Staver has been eager to find someone willing to serve his group’s ends as an anti-LGBT Rosa Parks, even before the Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) indulged in some ridiculous hyperbole (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/3/cruz-rips-jailing-kim-davis-this-is-not-america/) to twist and bend history.

“Today, judicial lawlessness crossed into judicial tyranny,” said Cruz, a Republican presidential candidate. “Today, for the first time ever, the government arrested a Christian woman for living according to her faith. This is wrong. This is not America.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/conservatives-twist-logic-to-portray-kim-davis-as-judeo-christian-martyr-like-rosa-parks-and-mlk/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not about score you were wrong Period. It's not about trolling as i told Blake in this very thread being right isn't about keeping score. You were wrong and it it took you two days to see it. As I said it was obvious from your post that you were wrong. See I don't need to troll like you do I just need to be correct.

If it wasn't about keeping score then you wouldn't belabor meaningless minutiae like you are. Your need to be correct is exactly what I am talking about with your insecurity and is a non sequitur to what you claim.

You so far have shown a blind spot for how things can be more than one thing and the concept of mutually exclusivity. How novel. How ignorant people attempt deduction.

[Trainwreck2100]

If it wasn't about keeping score then you wouldn't belabor meaningless minutiae like you are. Your need to be correct is exactly what I am talking about with your insecurity and is a non sequitur to what you claim.

You so far have shown a blind spot for how things can be more than one thing and the concept of mutually exclusivity. How novel. How ignorant people attempt deduction.

It's not v about non sequitur your original claim word for word was flawed. Then you went on in many of the posts that followed to show that you don't know what it means to be arrested for contempt of court. Whatever website yoy googled find a new one. Also you have no understanding of what the Supreme Court actually does when it comes to their rulings. Your original statement was wrong and that's what I challenged. This was about one statement that you made that was incorrect. If I'd known your version of trolling was "make incorrect statements just so you can be proven wrong" I would have handled it differently"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not v about non sequitur your original claim word for word was flawed. Then you went on in many of the posts that followed to show that you don't know what it means to be arrested for contempt of court. Whatever website yoy googled find a new one. Also you have no understanding of what the Supreme Court actually does when it comes to their rulings. Your original statement was wrong and that's what I challenged. This was about one statement that you made that was incorrect. If I'd known your version of trolling was "make incorrect statements just so you can be proven wrong" I would have handled it differently"

I went straight to scotusblog. I googled it a long time ago but its my go to regarding SCOTUS outside of the court itself. SCOTUS wrote a one sentence response denying the stay otherwise I would have gone with what SCOTUS said. I already quoted Kennedy's decision earlier in this thread.

We already discussed the cause and effect of the SCOTUS ruling and subsequent actions of the governors and local federal courts. You don't even want to talk about it. This is reminiscent of the tactics of xmas1997 aka ******. I've also talked about your inability to think outside of your box. Dodged too.

And are you going to dodge this question one more time? Are you hoping SCOTUS is going to save her?

[Trainwreck2100]

I went straight to scotusblog. I googled it a long time ago but its my go to regarding SCOTUS outside of the court itself. SCOTUS wrote a one sentence response denying the stay otherwise I would have gone with what SCOTUS said. I already quoted Kennedy's decision earlier in this thread.

We already discussed the cause and effect of the SCOTUS ruling and subsequent actions of the governors and local federal courts. You don't even want to talk about it. This is reminiscent of the tactics of xmas1997 aka ******. I've also talked about your inability to think outside of your box. Dodged too.

And are you going to dodge this question one more time? Are you hoping SCOTUS is going to save her?
Correct because that's meaningless in a contempt case. You see in a contempt case (some not all) A judge orders you to do something the reason this judge makes this decision can vary however, if you don't listen to the judge you go to jail. Guess what she didn't listen so she goes to jail. You seem fixated on why the judge gave the order. However judge's give orders for many reasons such as precedents, rule of law, ...etc.

Are you hoping SCOTUS is going to save her?
I don't know if you know this but SCOTuS decided this case wasn't worth their time. So no they won't be "saving her." But to answer your question, which i wasn't dodging. I though you were being facetious. You asked if the Supreme Court would intervene in a case they had already deemed not worthy of their time you see. I don't give a fuck about this bitch.

[spurtech09]

She is just obeying the LAW of the Lord....not the man made Law.....Just like me Im all for the law of God....Gay marriage is wrong in gods Law....Jesus doesn't hate nobody...He loves everybody no matter what but everybody has to go by his Law......As for me I hate no one but I say no to Gay marriage.....Remember its the lords law and not the law of man......Trust no man but God....Wake up people cause Jesus Christ is COMING!!!!!!!!!!!Don't know the day time or hour but the lord is returning.....forgive for your sins repent....seek god and get right with him cause he loves you...he loves everyone :).....Praise the lord Jesus Christ and All Power and Glory to GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

She is just obeying the LAW of the Lord....not the man made Law.....Just like me Im all for the law of God....Gay marriage is wrong in gods Law....Jesus doesn't hate nobody...He loves everybody no matter what but everybody has to go by his Law......As for me I hate no one but I say no to Gay marriage.....Remember its the lords law and not the law of man......Trust no man but God....Wake up people cause Jesus Christ is COMING!!!!!!!!!!!Don't know the day time or hour but the lord is returning.....forgive for your sins repent....seek god and get right with him cause he loves you...he loves everyone :).....Praise the lord Jesus Christ and All Power and Glory to GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he loves everyone, why does he kill so many of them

[Blake]

It's not about score you were wrong Period........ i told Blake in this very thread being right isn't about keeping score. You were wrong.... you were wrong. I just need to be correct.

I'm sardonic when people contradict themselves in a thread. I'm really extra sardonic when people contradict themselves in the same post.

Lol :cry I'm not here to win the internets but you were wrong you were wrong you were wrong

[spurtech09]

[QUOTE=Blake;8182940]If he loves everyone, why does he kill so many of them[/QUOTE I think you mean the evil one bro.....The enemy...(Satan)

[Blake]

I think you mean the evil one bro.....The enemy...(Satan)

No bro, it was God that made the flood for starters

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm sardonic when people contradict themselves in a thread. I'm really extra sardonic when people contradict themselves in the same post.

Lol :cry I'm not here to win the internets but you were wrong you were wrong you were wrong

The sky is blue.
The statement the statement i made was a correct statement, if being correct on the Internet means i win something what do I win Blake?

[spurtech09]

No bro, it was God that made the flood for starters
Flood?If your talking about the days of Noah than read the Bible brother.....God warned noah to build a boat because a flood was was coming.(It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. Noah acted in faith,building the ark long before the rain started.)Noah warned the people about the flood but people didn't listen...So when flood came it was too late.....The doors were shut..God warned Noah to tell the people about the flood but the people were busy doing there own thing...basically they didn't believe it...

[spurtech09]

the people that believed noah went in the boat..male and female...as well as the animals........those who didn't believe stayed left behind and drowned because they didn't believe noah.......if they had listen they probably would have not drowned.....by the time the rain started it was too late cause the doors were shut.....

[spurtech09]

No bro, it was God that made the flood for startersdo you have something against God? Just remember Jesus sacrificed himself for are sins...also I don't listen to what you say cause the bible says do not put trust in man.....sorry not to be rude but I don't believe what you say....I believe in Jesus Christ.....We all serve god....Jesus Christ loves everyone :)Praise the Almighty King Jesus Christ and all Power and Glory to GOD!!



Repent forgive for your sins.......seek the lord.......

[spurtech09]

Blake the Lord is here for us (Everyone)The Lord loves us all....Just remember he is the creator....If you want to be saved than reach out to Jesus Christ...Repent forgive for your sins.....Right now is a good time to get right with god cause the world is getting darker and darker....you see the enemy has alittle time left (satan)so he is deceiving a lot of people...planting his evil seed on people......ruining lives cause he wants to bring down everyone with him.....he knows his time is short cause Jehovah (GOD) is going to destroy evil for good.....so people need to wake up and get right with the lord cause Jesus is coming......be ready cause he can be here anytime now....don't kbow the day time or hour but he is coming......Got to be awake though cause he can at anytime.....just have faith in God.....cause its going to happen when we atleast expect it......if you don't want to be left behind seek god...has faith in god...trust him.....believe in him.......praise Jesus and power glory to god

[Blake]

do you have something against God?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252155&p=8180519#post8180519

[Blake]

The sky is blue.
The statement the statement i made was a correct statement, if being correct on the Internet means i win something what do I win Blake?

Actually it's not blue. You're wrong.

Now you can let it go because it's not a big deal or you can try to win the internets with a 20 page bout with me over the sky being blue.

you're obviously trying to win satisfaction for yourself here.

[Trainwreck2100]

Actually it's not blue. You're wrong.

Now you can let it go because it's not a big deal or you can try to win the internets with a 20 page bout with me over the sky being blue.
But what do I win if it is blue. I won't lie though I'm surprised you have an understanding about reflection and blue sky

[Blake]

But what do I win if it is blue

Satisfaction, imo.

or make yourself a trophy if you like.