Spurs aggressively pursuing West

[lefty]

@WojYahooNBA: Spurs are aggressively pursuing free agent David West with a veteran minimum offer now, sources tell Yahoo Sports.

[ironman2886]

David West be like

http://i.imgur.com/OzrriiQ.gif

[Jabba]

Spurs have absolutely no chance. My Lakers will get west. They'll give him an offer he simply cannot refuse.

[spursparker9]

Kawhi, Timmy, Pop and gang need to meet with West and seal it !

[Rev Hill]

Spurs have absolutely no chance. My Lakers will get west. They'll give him an offer he simply cannot refuse.

West said he wants to play for a Legit title contender not a team just learning to use Excel and PPT.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Damn this is ridiculous. He has Spur character for sure, a grit side, and he seems like the guy that doesn't care about minutes at this point.

Our bench unit being: Diaw, West, Ginobili, Mills, Joseph? :wow

[Embedded]

Lol @ ironman(iac)

[WildcardManu]

David West be like

http://i.imgur.com/OzrriiQ.gif

:lmao

[Obstructed_View]

David West be like

http://i.imgur.com/OzrriiQ.gif

:lmao

[south side spur]

He'll be the first enforcer since...Kevin Willis?

[NASpurs]

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[Rito3d30]

this off season is crazy

[Dex]

Spurs probably don't have the money to really compete at this point, unless they have some other move up their sleeves.

Don't even give a fuck after the Aldridge news. Getting West too would almost just be unfair.

[Mnky]

Cavs trying to cock block spurs. They scurred :lol

[BillMc]

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I'll take Amare for the min, if we can't get West. :toast

[SpursFan86]

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Yeah, let's not blow our loads too early :lol Washington can offer him more money, and Cleveland has the benefit of playing in the much weaker Eastern conference. It'd be awesome if he came here, but let's take things one at a time.

Cleveland can only offer him the vet min too, right?

[Marcus Bryant]

http://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/ed900dd01204ec5a5e78b0cd17aab510.jpg

[jeebus]

:lol Spurs aggressively pursuing Guest

[GSH]

Spurs probably don't have the money to really compete at this point, unless they have some other move up their sleeves.




After locking up Kawhi, Green, and now Aldridge, there may be some players competing to come here. Nobody wants to retire and have people give them shit about never winning a championship.

[Mnky]

I read wizards only offering the minimum as well.

[loveforthegame]

Come on West. Do the right thing. :tu

[SpursFan86]

I read wizards only offering the minimum as well.

Really? I could've sworn somewhere that they had the MLE to offer him and were planning on doing so.

[Mr. Body]

Cleveland is the bigger opponent. If he wanted to go to DC he already would have. Cleveland is stacked in the front line, though, while in SA he is part of the four man rotation, esp with starters on a minutes diet.

I'm not too alarmed about no real backup C. The league has changed.

[cjw]

I'll take Amare for the min, if we can't get West. :toast

Yes on this. He gets so much crap for not playing defense and his injuries, but at the minimum he can provide some key bench minutes / run offense through him if paired with the right guys. There are many lesser options.

with LMA, we become far more attractive now for vet min deals.

[Texas_Ranger]

Why sign with the Cavs? they have Love, Thompson, Mozgov and Varejao. And the Wizards ain't gonna win it all.

[HarlemHeat37]

I won't be mad if they get him, but Spurs need defensive players right now..

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I won't be mad if they get him, but Spurs need defensive players right now..
Is there any defensive mobile bigs out there still?

[SpursFan86]

I won't be mad if they get him, but Spurs need defensive players right now..

More specifically, a rim protector. What the hell are we going to do if Duncan gets injured? Aldridge is actually a very solid rim protector, but he hates playing center apparently. Diaw isn't really an option. West is a solid defender but again, not really capable of playing center and protecting the rim.

[HarlemHeat37]

Is there any defensive mobile bigs out there still?

Probably not for the minimum, unfortunately..maybe Biyombo but he's pretty awful offensively..

Fortunately, Green will probably start playing 30+ next year, at least..

[313]

Mills, cojo, and Manu ate going to get dropped off for 40 a game. We need a back up three.

[manufan10]

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[HarlemHeat37]

Otoh, Duncan will probably focus on defense more now that his offensive role is going to diminish + Green will probably play 30+ after getting paid and Manu aging..

[Mr. Body]

There is no shot-blocking C solution. And you don't pass on West if he's available.

[Spur-Addict]

Cavs frontcourt seems too crowded at this point, doesn't make sense to me unless they moved somebody.

[BillMc]

Otoh, Duncan will probably focus on defense more now that his offensive role is going to diminish + Green will probably play 30+ after getting paid and Manu aging..

Timmy's minutes and attempts may go down, but bet his FG% and rebound rate go up.

[ginobilized]

West will choose the Spurs
He's perfect for that wily vet role
1st unit will be much more competitive with Aldridge
2nd unit will be lethal

[Raven]

Is there any defensive mobile bigs out there still?

in theory, byombo

[Ditty]

Hopefully we can land Biyombo also!

[Seventyniner]

Otoh, Duncan will probably focus on defense more now that his offensive role is going to diminish + Green will probably play 30+ after getting paid and Manu aging..

Yup. Duncan will be the 4th option on offense so he can save energy for defense.

I wonder how many minutes Pop plans on giving Aldridge? My early guess is 33 or so, but it depends on how the rest of the team fills out.

[Ice009]

Hopefully we can land Biyombo also!

West and Biyombo.

[313]

Maybe KA gets some burn at back up 3?

[Chinook]

So this means Manu is coming back? Otherwise, they'd have the room exception to offer West. Cavs aren't a threat, as there's no minutes available for West. I doubt he wants to sit on the bench.

[Cklbmk]

Maybe KA gets some burn at back up 3?


I hope so

[vjcchs12]

How much can we offer west?

[Shastafarian]

So this means Manu is coming back? Otherwise, they'd have the room exception to offer West. Cavs aren't a threat, as there's no minutes available for West. I doubt he wants to sit on the bench.

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[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

How much can we offer west?

The same as the others

[Spurs9]

If the Spurs somehow sign West this will probably be my favorite Spurs team we have ever had tbh

[manufan10]

Could the Spurs do a S&T with Cavs involving CoJo and Mozgov? If they end up getting West, they're going to need to clear that logjam a bit... and Mozgov is in the last year of his contract.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 13m13 minutes ago
David West has strong ties to Ohio --- from family connections to his days as national player of the year at Xavier.

[ducks]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 9m9 minutes ago
While continuing to monitor David West pursuit, Wizards moving on to re-sign Drew Gooden and add wing player, per sources.

[Nathan89]

Could the Spurs do a S&T with Cavs involving CoJo and Mozgov? If they end up getting West, they're going to need to clear that logjam a bit... and Mozgov is in the last year of his contract.

Cavs would not trade Mozgov.

[Marcus Bryant]

Cavs would not trade Mozgov.

Yep.

[Mr. Body]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 13m13 minutes ago
David West has strong ties to Ohio --- from family connections to his days as national player of the year at Xavier.

Knew he went to Xavier but didn't put it together for the Cavs.

[noles1983]

what about getting varejao from the cavs? is that dude even gonna get playing time?

[sexinthatsx]

what about getting varejao from the cavs? is that dude even gonna get playing time?

Impossible, his contract is a hefty sum to take on and the numbers don't work at all unless we trade players to get him.

[sexinthatsx]

Spurs probably don't have the money to really compete at this point, unless they have some other move up their sleeves.

Don't even give a fuck after the Aldridge news. Getting West too would almost just be unfair.

Spurs didn't care about Aldridge news because sources said LMA picked Spurs even before free agency began and I'm pretty sure Spurs knew LMA was just toying with other teams. But now that there's a marquee FA joining the Spurs I really hope it ends up like Miami or Cavs where players will take pay cuts to play. However, with the Cavs and Miami, most of the players who did take paycuts weren't bigs, who are able to get big money elsewhere.

[Dex]

Spurs didn't care about Aldridge news because sources said LMA picked Spurs even before free agency began and I'm pretty sure Spurs knew LMA was just toying with other teams. But now that there's a marquee FA joining the Spurs I really hope it ends up like Miami or Cavs where players will take pay cuts to play. However, with the Cavs and Miami, most of the players who did take paycuts weren't bigs, who are able to get big money elsewhere.

It bodes well that West has already said he's willing to take a paycut to contend. Now the question is how far will those scales tip? Spurs will probably only be able to offer him the vet min, so they'll be on the low end of the pay scale...but arguably could give him his best chance to ring.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I absolutely don't see this happening. If it happens I will be shocked. He can get way more money than the minimum elsewhere.

[ducks]

not with a contender
spurs also could do a sign and trade with pacers

[GSH]

Did any of you watch what Biyombo DID after getting drafted? He couldn't get minutes ahead of Jason Maxiell. And his defense/shot blocking actually got worse the longer he played. He wasn't NBA-ready, and he still isn't. Lots of raw athleticism, and he's still only 22. But there is no way he contributes to a Spurs roster this season.

[palangi]

I've been a big a big supporter of Biyombo. But after thinking about it more, why not just go with Lallanne? Cady is an inch taller, has the same length, his athleticism is good, and he has a better shot.

[Rev Hill]

I assume West decided awhile back he wanted to play for a legit title contender at a much reduced price. If his college days in Ohio were such a pull to the cavs couldn't he have signed w them days ago? I don't believe he is from Ohio. Just played college there. Believe he is from NJ and played highschool in Virginia. Whatever it is I find the timing of his wait hopefully not just a coincidence w the timing of the Spurs and Aldridge.

It simply the story of the cavs interest in West could simply be from the Lebron camp crying that all the free agents aren't banging on the door this offseason to play for food stamps for the opportunity to play w James.

Or simply there may not be an immediate or huge market /interest in West at the moment. Would be a great fit for the Spurs. Hope he doesn't become just another member of the Lebron fan club.

[palangi]

Why would west want to go to Cleveland with

PF love and thompson
C Mosgov and Verajao

hed be the 5th big

[Mikeanaro]

Pop has been stalking him very quietly.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs pitching vet min contract for one year and then bigger deal next summer when the cap increases by $20MM.

[daslicer]

I assume West decided awhile back he wanted to play for a legit title contender at a much reduced price. If his college days in Ohio were such a pull to the cavs couldn't he have signed w them days ago? I don't believe he is from Ohio. Just played college there. Believe he is from NJ and played highschool in Virginia. Whatever it is I find the timing of his wait hopefully not just a coincidence w the timing of the Spurs and Aldridge.


West originally grew up in NJ but he went to hschool down in NC. His NC ties are strong he has a summer home in Raleigh and his whole entire family lives in the Raleigh area.

[ironman2886]

Pop has been stalking him very quietly.
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[Mikeanaro]

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:lmao

[manufan10]

Cavs would not trade Mozgov.

A media member brought up the Cavs trading Mozgov since he's in the last year of his deal... said the Cavs would want to try and get something for him since it's unlikely he will stay with them.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ok, who do the Spurs give up for Mozgov?

Please don't say Bonner.

[Poolboy5623]

Ok, who do the Spurs give up for Mozgov?

Please don't say Bonner.

I think the suggestion was cojo lol

[GB20]

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[GSH]

Ok, who do the Spurs give up for Mozgov?

Please don't say Bonner.


If it was going to happen (can't see it, but) wouldn't Boris be the most obvious? That would be a big change in the complexion of the team.

[PublicOption]

We may have to play the younger bigs we just picked up.

[spursfanincolorado]

i say let Manu retire - he is done and use whatever money we were going to offer him to go to West - tired of Turnobili - he is gassed

[Marcus Bryant]

If it was going to happen (can't see it, but) wouldn't Boris be the most obvious? That would be a big change in the complexion of the team.

Right. I could see the general consensus (outside of SA) being that you do that deal, but Diaw is such a crucial cog in the offense and I think a very good part of team chemistry.

[TheGoldStandard]

Right. I could see the general consensus (outside of SA) being that you do that deal, but Diaw is such a crucial cog in the offense and I think a very good part of team chemistry.

Manu and Mosgov would be sick though at least for 1 season in pick n roll

[ironman2886]

I like Diaw too much. Mosgov is special, though.

[Solid D]

Great. Now maybe West won't frown and pout so much when he is about to shoot a FT.

[TheGoldStandard]

Parker/Mills
Green/ Manu/Ellington or Alan Anderson
Kawhi/ Anderson/ LJC
Aldridge/West / Lelanne or Amare
Duncan/ Mosgov/Bonner

[ironman2886]

Parker/Mills
Green/ Manu/Ellington or Alan Anderson
Kawhi/ Anderson/ LJC
Aldridge/West / Lelanne or Amare
Duncan/ Mosgov/Bonner
:lobt2:

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

LeBron loves bigs with range! Offer Joseph and Bonner for Mozgov, then next year resign Mozgov as the salary cap increases. I can dream right?

[GrandeDavid]

No way they'll get him with the Veteran's Minimum. He doesn't want to win THAT bad!

[TheGoldStandard]

:lobt2:

Mosgov won't come it's a pipe dream but the one thing I liked about him during the Finals was his ability to catch the ball around the rim. Also he did a pretty good job of going straight up on defense rather than fall into players trying to block them

[Mnky]

I read the room exception possibly in talks for west. Is that the only way of signing back Manu?
If dwest gets re, can Manu sign for min?

[TheGoldStandard]

I read the room exception possibly in talks for west. Is that the only way of signing back Manu?
If dwest gets re, can Manu sign for min?

Yep, renounce him and take a vet minimum deal

[Vic Petro]

No way they'll get him with the Veteran's Minimum. He doesn't want to win THAT bad!

[Horry Hipcheck]

Parker/Mills
Green/ Manu/Ellington or Alan Anderson
Kawhi/ Anderson/ LJC
Aldridge/West / Lelanne or Amare
Duncan/ Mosgov/Bonner

Would skullfuck the league tbh

[Marcus Bryant]

What would prevent signing West to a two year vet minimum deal with a player option after year 1 and then re-signing him to a 2 year, $22MM contract next summer when the cap hits the rumored $90MM level?

[Mr. Body]

What would prevent signing West to a two year vet minimum deal with a player option after year 1 and then re-signing him to a 2 year, $22MM contract next summer when the cap hits the rumored $90MM level?

Nothing, right? Except it can't be set up beforehand.

[Marcus Bryant]

Nothing, right? Except it can't be set up beforehand.

Right. I'm sure that's what the Spurs are discussing with him and/or his agent. Of course, if you want to draw attention to yourself in free agency, making public an intention to sign for the minimum with one of the last two NBA champions isn't a bad idea, if you have West's game.

[baseline bum]

Parker/Mills
Green/ Manu/Ellington or Alan Anderson
Kawhi/ Anderson/ LJC
Aldridge/West / Lelanne or Amare
Duncan/ Mosgov/Bonner

Mozgov?

[TheGoldStandard]

Mozgov?

Just feeding the hyperbole in this thread.

[baseline bum]

Just feeding the hyperbole in this thread.

Check. Add LeBron to backup Kawhi in that lineup and we're golden.

[manufan10]

I'm the one who brought up the Mozgov hypothetical... only because of this:

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[phxspurfan]

Remember in 07 when we got Van Exel, Finley, Barry, Stoudamire etc and were like we're the team to beat who can stop us

[Texas_Ranger]

Remember in 07 when we got Van Exel, Finley, Barry, Stoudamire etc and were like we're the team to beat who can stop us

Finley and van exel came in 05 and barry came in 04

[phxspurfan]

Now all we need is Gervin and Terry Cummings and we're set

[Darkwaters]

I read wizards only offering the minimum as well.

I thought West wanted to go to a contender? If thats true then Washington isn't even in the conversation.

[bluebellmaniac]

I thought West wanted to go to a contender? If thats true then Washington isn't even in the conversation.

Could be that he wants to come here, but is trying whatever leverage he can to get more than the min, like the room exception.

[slick'81]

Damn if west comes nba beware spurs are fucking back bitches

[Rob in Converse]

Is there any defensive mobile bigs out there still?

How come I don't read anything about Kevin Seraphin? Have I missed him signing with someone? I recall he smacked the Spurs around when they played at Washington last season. He's defensive and mobile, French and cheap. What am I missing?

[Darkwaters]

Could be that he wants to come here, but is trying whatever leverage he can to get more than the min, like the room exception.

That was nothing more than a slight against the Wizards. Nobody in their right minds really thinks they're actual contenders. They'll make a little noise in the Minor Leagues, but nobody really takes the East seriously beyond Cleveland.

[slick'81]

That was nothing more than a slight against the Wizards. Nobody in their right minds really thinks they're actual contenders. They'll make a little noise in the Minor Leagues, but nobody really takes the East seriously beyond Cleveland.

Still wiz might of made the ecf if wall doesn't go down

[ducks]

could get a decent backup with the splitter trade

[Darkwaters]

Still wiz might of made the ecf if wall doesn't go down

Once again...the Minor Leagues don't impress me much.

[sexinthatsx]

If Spurs could get their hands on Kevin Seraphin that would be so awesome.

[Ice009]

What would prevent signing West to a two year vet minimum deal with a player option after year 1 and then re-signing him to a 2 year, $22MM contract next summer when the cap hits the rumored $90MM level?

Is the cap increase next off-season? I thought that TV deal is still a couple of seasons away?

[Solid D]

Still wiz might of made the ecf if wall doesn't go down

Paul "The Truth" will be in LA, now. They will sorely miss his clutchness and bball smarts.

[ducks]

I'm the one who brought up the Mozgov hypothetical... only because of this:

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james will make him resign him get into luxury tax

[Marcus Bryant]

Is the cap increase next off-season? I thought that TV deal is still a couple of seasons away?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/17/report-nba-predicts-89-million-salary-cap-in-2016-22-million-jump-and-it-keeps-going-up/

[DJR210]

He'll be the first enforcer since...Kevin Willis?

That pussy never enforced shit with his midget arms

[south side spur]

Since who then? He's the only name I could think of. Spurs have never really had those hot head types. Willis might've had T Rex arms but they were swoll T Rex arms :lol

[hater]

That pussy never enforced shit with his midget arms

Nobody fucked with Kevin Willis dummy

[DJR210]

Nobody fucked with Kevin Willis dummy

So the myth says.. I don't remember him enforcing shit for the Spurs, and I'm too lazy to search for something

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So the myth says.. I don't remember him enforcing shit for the Spurs, and I'm too lazy to search for something

That is likely because he would step to them and they would back down. Plenty of hard fouls those days and Trex would step to on all of them. He'd also retaliate with hard fouls of his own. He wasn't Kermit Washington but thug life doesn't last long really lived out on an NBA court. I'm talking about actual violence not ghetto speak, tats, and style.

[Maj_G]

West will choose the Spurs
He's perfect for that wily vet role
1st unit will be much more competitive with Aldridge
2nd unit will be lethal

patty, manu, kyle, and boris with west would be something special to watch.

[Marcus Bryant]

Man if we could find a Willis this summer. West will do.

[DPG21920]

I really, really, really hope POR comes to their senses and does a S&T.

[manufan10]

I really, really, really hope POR comes to their senses and does a S&T.

How does that help the Spurs? And who would they send?

[DPG21920]

How does that help the Spurs? And who would they send?

Helps the Spurs because since they would be over the cap, the can re-sign Cory Joseph and have the MLE to get other players. Makes cap space and any other moves a non-factor.

Spurs wouldn't have to send anything out but Tiago to ATL (maybe draft rights or a future 2nd round pick).

[Marcus Bryant]

How does that help the Spurs? And who would they send?

Right. We have no shitty contracts to dump.

[manufan10]

Helps the Spurs because since they would be over the cap, the can re-sign Cory Joseph and have the MLE to get other players. Makes cap space and any other moves a non-factor.

Spurs wouldn't have to send anything out but Tiago to ATL (maybe draft rights or a future 2nd round pick).

Ah, okay. Thanks. :tu

[DPG21920]

Right. We have no shitty contracts to dump.

Not sure if you're being sacrastic but don't think the Spurs would need to send anything but Splitter to ATL.

[Chinook]

Not sure if you're being sacrastic but don't think the Spurs would need to send anything but Splitter to ATL.

They'd need to recruit one of DET or SAC (very preferably DET) to include their acquisition of Baynes or Beli into the deal. Splitter alone wouldn't get it done.

[Seventyniner]

They'd need to recruit one of DET or SAC (very preferably DET) to include their acquisition of Baynes or Beli into the deal. Splitter alone wouldn't get it done.

This is so that the Spurs' outgoing salary (Splitter and Baynes or Beli) comes close enough to matching that of Aldridge, right? Why is DET preferable?

[Chinook]

This is so that the Spurs' outgoing salary (Splitter and Baynes or Beli) comes close enough to matching that of Aldridge, right? Why is DET preferable?

The Spurs have Baynes' full Bird rights, so they can stay over the cap if they use him. The only have Beli's early Bird rights, so they'd have to go under the cap to S&T him.

[dunkman]

West will complete the bigman rotation, the Spurs will have fantastic rotation there.

[CaptainLate]

Spurs didn't care about Aldridge news because sources said LMA picked Spurs even before free agency began and I'm pretty sure Spurs knew LMA was just toying with other teams.

This makes sense considering the Splitter deal and DGreen leaving about $20mil on the table. PATFO had to go thru the motions, though. It would be atypical of them to put their eggs in one basket and dump Splitter and let a serviceable player like Baynes walk if they did not have some verbal commitment from LMA. Probably told Manu to hold off announcing and DWest to standby until all the pieces were in place.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Does anybody know what Atlanta sent back in that trade? Did I miss it?

[CaptainLate]

Ok, who do the Spurs give up for Mozgov?

Please don't say Bonner.

Bonner? :lmao

[CaptainLate]

That was nothing more than a slight against the Wizards. Nobody in their right minds really thinks they're actual contenders. They'll make a little noise in the Minor Leagues, but nobody really takes the East seriously beyond Cleveland.

Which is why the stupid NBA needs to re-seed after the regular season. Spurs should never have had to play the Clippers in the Round 1. Of course, if the Spurs had not lost to the pathetic Knicks, they could have taken the night off vs. the Pelicans in the last game of the season...oh, wait, they did. :bang costing them a repeat.

[CaptainLate]

Paul "The Truth" will be in LA, now. They will sorely miss his clutchness and bball smarts.

Pierce may have bball smarts but he sure played his Clippers signing like Forrest Gump. "Stupid is as stupid does." Gotta be kicking himself that he didn't wait before seeing what DJordan was going to do. Pierce is now feeling a bit like Homer Simpson. "Dough!"

[kobyz]

Offer him minimum contract with promise for coaching job after retirement...

[tholdren]

WA has: Gortat, Nene, Gooden, Blair, Humphries…. how would West fit into that log-jam?

[Mr. Body]

WA has: Gortat, Nene, Gooden, Blair, Humphries…. how would West fit into that log-jam?

Nene is close to done, Gooden would be signed f they can't get West, Blair and Humphries don't factor. Gortat is a C.