Roster - Remaining Spots

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Wow, why would Glen Robinson's son need his shot fixed? I would have figured shooting wouldn't be an issue for him since his Dad was a great shooter.

well going by his college numbers(not his rookie season because he played for 2 crap teams) his mid range game is money but he shot 32% from beyond the arc. His shots not broken but he aint no sharpshooter either. Chip could fix that like he did with Kawhi.

[ceperez]

With recent reported trade for McCallum, Spurs now with just 2-3 open slots.

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/West

Still looking for that center and that 3 point shooter.

Spurs have figured out that Bertans can't protect the ball so they went out and grabbed a real point guard.

[Darkwaters]

With recent reported trade for McCallum, Spurs now with just 2-3 open slots.

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/West

Still looking for that center and that 3 point shooter.

Spurs have figured out that Bertans can't protect the ball so they went out and grabbed a real point guard.

I've never looked at Bertans and thought "Backup PG." I always looked at him and thought "Swingman Depth." He might have some passing ability (akin to a homeless man's Manu Ginobili) but I don't know who would have realistically liked him as a PG.

[Mugen]

With recent reported trade for McCallum, Spurs now with just 2-3 open slots.

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw
Duncan/West

Still looking for that center and that 3 point shooter.

Spurs have figured out that Bertans can't protect the ball so they went out and grabbed a real point guard.

Pretty much a lock that Bon Bon comes back. He'll bury the Big 3 + Pop when it's all said and done....

A Center + a shooter and then I figure they'll leave a roster spot open for training camp/buyouts/Austin callups....

[NASpurs]

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The dream is over guys :(

[hater]

Bonner knows how to hack a dejordan so he's back with us 100%

[Mugen]

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FUCK.

[Timothy21]

Bargnani

[ceperez]

Bargnani

If he doesn't get a decent paycheck, he probably is going to Europe.

[Darkwaters]

Pretty much a lock that Bon Bon comes back. He'll bury the Big 3 + Pop when it's all said and done....

A Center + a shooter and then I figure they'll leave a roster spot open for training camp/buyouts/Austin callups....

I agree that the Spurs probably keep at least one spot open. I'm sure somebody will get bought out after the deadline and want to jump aboard for the stretch run. Also, it will afford flexibility to play the Austin callup game.

I don't know anymore if Bonner is necessarily in the plans. Picking up David West really changed the complexion of their big man rotation. I think more of a traditional Center is definitely in the cards before another PF. But Bonner could always play the waiting game like Horry used to do and sign on mid-season if the needs appears. Until then...Sean Marks' personal assistant in the Front Office?

Also, the swingman rotation is really concerning to me as it stands right now. Leonard and Danny are studs and will soak up the lion's share of minutes. But, in theory, Manu should only be playing 18-22 minutes a night. And he'll undoubtedly miss time during the season anyways. Also, I have no faith in Kyle Anderson to even play 10 rotation minutes a night. So what if Kawhi sprains an ankle and is out for 3 weeks? Manu can't fill in big minutes and Kyle just isn't ready yet if we want to be competitive. We might need more than one addition...

So heres what it comes down to....we have four roster spots. How do we divvy them up?

1 will stay open for buyouts and callups.
1 will go to a swingman
1 will go to a big.
What about number 4? I'd personally go with a second swing... Sign one veteran and one younger developmental guy.


Parker/Mills/McCallum

Leonard/Green/Ginobili/Established Veteran FA (Rasual Butler?)/Younger FA (Dairis Bertans or Jerrell Eddie?)/Kyle Anderson

Duncan/Aldridge/Diaw/West/Center FA

1 Spot vacant

[NASpurs]

Woj is tweeting early today so let's hope for an eventful day :hungry:

[ceperez]

I agree that the Spurs probably keep at least one spot open. I'm sure somebody will get bought out after the deadline and want to jump aboard for the stretch run. Also, it will afford flexibility to play the Austin callup game.

I don't know anymore if Bonner is necessarily in the plans. Picking up David West really changed the complexion of their big man rotation. I think more of a traditional Center is definitely in the cards before another PF. But Bonner could always play the waiting game like Horry used to do and sign on mid-season if the needs appears. Until then...Sean Marks' personal assistant in the Front Office?

Also, the swingman rotation is really concerning to me as it stands right now. Leonard and Danny are studs and will soak up the lion's share of minutes. But, in theory, Manu should only be playing 18-22 minutes a night. And he'll undoubtedly miss time during the season anyways. Also, I have no faith in Kyle Anderson to even play 10 rotation minutes a night. So what if Kawhi sprains an ankle and is out for 3 weeks? Manu can't fill in big minutes and Kyle just isn't ready yet if we want to be competitive. We might need more than one addition...

So heres what it comes down to....we have four roster spots. How do we divvy them up?

1 will stay open for buyouts and callups.
1 will go to a swingman
1 will go to a big.
What about number 4? I'd personally go with a second swing... Sign one veteran and one younger developmental guy.


Parker/Mills/McCallum

Leonard/Green/Ginobili/Established Veteran FA (Rasual Butler?)/Younger FA (Dairis Bertans or Jerrell Eddie?)/Kyle Anderson

Duncan/Aldridge/Diaw/West/Center FA

1 Spot vacant

Leonard has been consistently out in the regular season. Has never played a full season.

So I got the same concerns here. Nobody to replace Leonard when he's out. That's why I want to see LJC signed... at least someone who can cover the same kind of defensive assignments.

KA has a decent post-up game though. If that's KL offensive game, then it'll compensate on that side of things.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I like Shved. Too expensive though, me thinks.

I think he would be perfect to replace Manu in the future. Maybe the Spurs can lure him with a 2 year deal (PO in 2nd). He is strongly considering going back to Europe and he just might stay for a shot to play with the Spurs. If he works out, the Spurs can pay him next year and he can take over for Manu full-time.

And yeah, with the Cap going to 70mil, the Spurs don't have to use the Room Exception on Manu. They can resign him with cap space if they renounce Bonner and cut Williams. They can always resign Bonner at the Vet min.

Knicks only have to the room to offer Shved. So maybe the Spurs can swoop in and make him an offer.

[DesignatedT]

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FUCK.

Lol

[DesignatedT]

So is there anyway the Spurs can still swing Sausha Kahn from Cleveland.
I know there was interest but haven't heard anything lately

[MaNu4Tres]

So is there anyway the Spurs can still swing Sausha Kahn from Cleveland.
I know there was interest but haven't heard anything lately

Rather them just sign Greg Smith or Dalembert for minimum than give up an asset for Kahn.

Don't like the idea of giving up an asset for a 5th big.

[BillMc]

Woj is tweeting early today so let's hope for an eventful day :hungry:

[ceperez]

I found Spurs backup 3 point shooter... http://www.nba.com/hawks/features/austin-daye-scores-52-points-pro-am-game

8 made 3's in one game!

Sign him up!

[Darkwaters]

I found Spurs backup 3 point shooter... http://www.nba.com/hawks/features/austin-daye-scores-52-points-pro-am-game

8 made 3's in one game!

Sign him up!

Haha, he got waived today too! Plus he knows the system! What's not to love!

[ceperez]

Haha, he got waived today too! Plus he knows the system! What's not to love!

Yup...

(1) Available (check)
(2) Minimum (check)
(3) High 3 point percentage (check)
(4) Length (check)
(5) Spurs corporate knowledge (check)

What's not to like?

[spurraider21]

Rather them just sign Greg Smith or Dalembert for minimum than give up an asset for Kahn.

Don't like the idea of giving up an asset for a 5th big.
if we're going for a veteran big i'd take Nazr or Jermaine O'Neal ahead of Dalembert

[TimDunkem]

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[DesignatedT]

Pretty sure that won't be happening after the McCallum trade....

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, I just read that he signed up with Miami.

[Darkwaters]

Yup...

(1) Available (check)
(2) Minimum (check)
(3) High 3 point percentage (check)
(4) Length (check)
(5) Spurs corporate knowledge (check)

What's not to like?

Too bad he sucks.....��

[ceperez]

Pretty sure that won't be happening after the McCallum trade....

I agree. Spurs already have their backup point guard.

[Spur-Addict]

I think he would be perfect to replace Manu in the future. Maybe the Spurs can lure him with a 2 year deal (PO in 2nd). He is strongly considering going back to Europe and he just might stay for a shot to play with the Spurs. If he works out, the Spurs can pay him next year and he can take over for Manu full-time.

And yeah, with the Cap going to 70mil, the Spurs don't have to use the Room Exception on Manu. They can resign him with cap space if they renounce Bonner and cut Williams. They can always resign Bonner at the Vet min.

Knicks only have to the room to offer Shved. So maybe the Spurs can swoop in and make him an offer.

It makes even more sense from a health perspective. Hypothetically, if Parker or Manu are injured for any length of time, I'd much rather have Shved starting than Patty or McCallum. And obviously he would slide right into Manu's role in the bench scenario. And as far as the current roster makeup goes, I'm much more concerned about the longevity of the pivotal guards as opposed to our pivotal bigs. I'd much rather pick a big off the scrap heap and have a hole filler at guard/wing, than have a better than average, to slightly better than average center who isn't going to see much court time anyways. And, more importantly, will not be as serviceable as Shved in a pinch in regards to a real basketball situation.

[FireMicoHalili]

There's Carlos Delfino (washed up), Xavier Henry (rarely healthy), Jason Richardson (old as balls), Marcus Thornton (no defense), Alexey Shved (low BBIQ, no D), JR Smith (out of price range), Jason Terry (......) for a reserve shooter. Hoping Jarell Eddie pans out.

FO center there's Seraphin (out of price range), Larry Sanders (unstable), Cole Aldrich, Greg Smith, Henry Sims, Joel Freeland, Rhan Hollins, Jeff Withey, and D-Leaguers (Willie Reed, Jerelle Benimo ).

Wonder where the Spurs pick up a legit C. Didn't expect them to turn a 2nd rounder into McCallum.

[Kawhitstorm]

Rasual Butler is most like going to be Marco's replacement.

[ceperez]

Rasual Butler is most like going to be Marco's replacement.

That's depressing.

I'll take my chances with Austin Daye.

[Marcus Bryant]

That's depressing.

I'll take my chances with Austin Daye.

Well, maybe if the Spurs didn't sign Aldridge we could've had Bellinellieieiei back.

Goodbye, cruel world.

[Darkwaters]

That's depressing.

I'll take my chances with Austin Daye.

Oh...were you totally serious about Austin Daye?

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/258/658/ef4.gif


I figured you were just be snarky and ironic early. I was pretty sure everybody had realized that Austin Daye is fool's gold by now.

[SpursFan86]

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He'd be a really solid backup 3 if we could get him.

[picnroll]

OKC will likely have to get rid of Novak to retain Canter

[monkeypunk]

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He'd be a really solid backup 3 if we could get him.

I'd like him too but too many teams with cap room right now and he doesn't seem the type to take less to get a ring...

[NASpurs]

I'd like him too but too many teams with cap room right now and he doesn't seem the type to take less to get a ring...

People were saying the same thing for Gerald Green and he went to Miami for a 1 yr/minimum contract.

[NASpurs]

Lowe talking about Teletovic:

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[DPG21920]

Haven't heard anything about Bargnani - wonder if he's going to Europe? Mirza is interesting, especially talent wise for the price, but is it the biggest fit/need on a team with plenty of talent already?

I would imagine not having to rely on Kyle Anderson would be the next most important thing. Getting that additional SG/SF.

[Mr. Body]

Teletovic would be great, IMO. Nice bench player. If he's on, ride him. Plus advances our deleted foreigner stock.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

would have liked Teletubbyvic not long ago but we're too loaded at 4 now even if provides something different as specialist stretch 4.

But can't see him log many minutes at 3 at all.

[Mr. Body]

Haven't heard anything about Bargnani - wonder if he's going to Europe? Mirza is interesting, especially talent wise for the price, but is it the biggest fit/need on a team with plenty of talent already?

I would imagine not having to rely on Kyle Anderson would be the next most important thing. Getting that additional SG/SF.

Bargnani is maybe the worst rebounder of his size ever. Really astoundingly bad.

[Chinook]

Spurs potentially have the room exception for Teletovic. But I don't love the idea of getting yet another shooting PF at all.

[Marcus Bryant]

Lowe talking about Teletovic:

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Sounds good. Decent size and has a little range. Farewell thee Bonner.

[DPG21920]

Agreed - talent wise, it's really hard to say no to Mirza for that money, but Spurs have talent. They need fit more than talent. Need a SG/SF that can hit a 3 to a reasonable degree and at least tries to defend (Wright is my guess at this point).

[TheCerebral1]

Will Barton, KJ McDaniels, Glenn Robinson III, Alexey Shved, Marcus Thornton, Kostas Papanikolaou . Looking through lists.

[Splits]

Thunder are rumored to be salary dumping PJ3, he'd be worth a flier

[spursistan]

Didn't Teletovic have blood clots in his lung? has he recovered or should that be a red flag?

[Chinook]

Thunder are rumored to be salary dumping PJ3, he'd be worth a flier

Salary dumping is not the same thing as cutting. He'll be on someone else's roster. Not really what the Spurs need at this point. Huestis maybe, though.

[SpursFan86]

I was kind of under the impression Teletovic could play the 3 with no problems. Am I mistaken?

I've said this multiple times, but Dorell Wright is still a really good option IMO. I think I read somewhere that he wants to return to Miami, though...so I'm not so sure about that. We'd have more money to offer him in that case as I'm fairly sure Miami could only give him the minimum.

[Bruno]

If Spurs cut Reggie Williams, They will have about $1.8M in cap space. Their next move (signing West, Manu, Green or Kawhi) willbasically take away that space.

We will see if they wait a little before making this next signing to see what they can do with that space.

[Marcus Bryant]

If Spurs cut Reggie Williams, They will have about $1.8M in cap space. Their next move (signing West, Manu, Green or Kawhi) willbasically take away that space.

We will see if they wait a little before making this next signing to see what they can do with that space.

Not that I doubt the man, but let's get West signed.

[TD 21]

I was kind of under the impression Teletovic could play the 3 with no problems. Am I mistaken?

I've said this multiple times, but Dorell Wright is still a really good option IMO. I think I read somewhere that he wants to return to Miami, though...so I'm not so sure about that. We'd have more money to offer him in that case as I'm fairly sure Miami could only give him the minimum.

You are. He's strictly a PF and one who no longer makes sense for the Spurs, given the Diaw over Splitter decision and West signing.

If he'd accept the minimum, I'd sign him anyway. But I can't imagine him not being able to easily eclipse it or settling for it, plus a guaranteed non rotation spot.


As an aside, I wonder if the Nets would trade Karasev for Williams' contract. It would save them some money and clear up a roster spot. He's coming off a major injury and doesn't appear to be in their plans.

Hasn't yet proven to be a legit NBA player, but he's had limited opportunity. Had a rep coming out of the draft, as a potential 3 and D ish type that can swing between both wing positions.

[Bruno]

Not that I doubt the man, but let's get West signed.

Yeah, I'm certainly not for Spurs waiting too long before signing a player that took such a pay cut.

[Timothy21]

Spurs potentially have the room exception for Teletovic. But I don't love the idea of getting yet another shooting PF at all.

room exc has been used for Manu

[SpursFan86]

You are. He's strictly a PF and one who no longer makes sense for the Spurs, given the Diaw over Splitter decision and West signing.

If he'd accept the minimum, I'd sign him anyway. But I can't imagine him not being able to easily eclipse it or settling for it, plus a guaranteed non rotation spot.

Hmm, well in that case, I agree that using the room exception on a guy who doesn't fill a need would be unwise. Would rather use it to help land a halfway decent center, or a 3&D guy like Wright.

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

The dream is dead guys. Tank for Okafor.

[SpursFan86]

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Welp, no need to worry about that :lol Wonder if Phoenix is planning on getting rid of Markieff.

[RD2191]

The dream is dead guys. Tank for Okafor.
:lol

[TheCerebral1]

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They had to spend that cap someplace. It sort of sucks that they dealt Marcus Morris for nearly nothing.

[TD 21]

Hmm, well in that case, I agree that using the room exception on a guy who doesn't fill a need would be unwise. Would rather use it to help land a halfway decent center, or a 3&D guy like Wright.

With West signed, wing is a bigger priority, since whatever C they bring in has zero chance at cracking the rotation.

Wright wouldn't be a terrible fit, but he's far more 3 than he is 3&D and he can only credibly play SF.

This is fine if they intend to sign two wings, but I suspect they sign one, along with a depth C and Bonner and call it an off season.

[Leetonidas]

Joel Freeland or Nazr Mohammed for the minimum tbh

[Mugen]

I'm fine with bringing Nazr's corpse back. But I'm still despondent over losing Wayne Ellington tbh.....:depressed

[DPG21920]

If Spurs cut Reggie Williams, They will have about $1.8M in cap space. Their next move (signing West, Manu, Green or Kawhi) willbasically take away that space.

We will see if they wait a little before making this next signing to see what they can do with that space.

Nice, so if the Spurs use Reggie in a trade that is 1.8M cap space + 1.1M = about 4M+ they can take back in a trade

[Darkwaters]

With West signed, wing is a bigger priority, since whatever C they bring in has zero chance at cracking the rotation.

Wright wouldn't be a terrible fit, but he's far more 3 than he is 3&D and he can only credibly play SF.

This is fine if they intend to sign two wings, but I suspect they sign one, along with a depth C and Bonner and call it an off season.

I really think they need to sign two wings and a center (not Bonner). Keep Bonner on the sidelines in the front office and ready to pull the Robert Horry if necessary.

[SpursFan86]

Wow just saw that the deal with Ellington was only 1 year/$1.5 million...would've loved him here for that amount :depressed

[Austin_Toros]

Andris Biedrins as C off the bench? He can provide the rebounding and shot blocking the Spurs need. Can't shoot free throws though.

[Marcus Bryant]

Something's going on. The rest of the signings haven't happened yet.

[TD 21]

I really think they need to sign two wings and a center (not Bonner). Keep Bonner on the sidelines in the front office and ready to pull the Robert Horry if necessary.

I don't disagree, but for financial/flexibility reasons, I suspect they keep the fifteenth spot open.

If fully healthy and not giving anyone a game off, Anderson is probably 14th, which means inactive, while being shuttled back and forth from the D-League. Bonner is probably 13th, almost entirely because he's well liked and because even minimal veterans are almost never inactive, when healthy.

[jbspurs]

Hanga or Davis Bertans please....

[Bruno]

Nice, so if the Spurs use Reggie in a trade that is 1.8M cap space + 1.1M = about 4M+ they can take back in a trade

Nope, there is $1.8M in cap space if Williams is waived.

To make it clearer, right now and after having waived Williams, Spurs can:
- Sign a free agent for $1.8M.
- Trade for a player with a $2.4M salary.

Spurs not making official the rest of their summer moves (Kawhi, Green, Ginobili or West) might be a sign that they are looking at what to do with that money. It's hypothetical since this wait might also just be logistic related. And even if they are looking, it isn't said they will find something they like.

[DAF86]

Get James Jones and Joel Freeland and get ready to go.

[DPG21920]

Nope, there is $1.8M in cap space if Williams is waived.

To make it clearer, right now and after having waived Williams, Spurs can:
- Sign a free agent for $1.8M.
- Trade for a player with a $2.4M salary.

Spurs not making official the rest of their summer moves (Kawhi, Green, Ginobili or West) might be a sign that they are looking at what to do with that money. It's hypothetical since this wait might also just be logistic related. And even if they are looking, it isn't said they will find something they like.

Ah, damn. I see - thought that might be off, but thought there was a chance I was missing something and your calc had Reggie included.

*edit* just re-read your post and don't know how I missed that you mentioned Reggie in the post. Duh.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Something's going on. The rest of the signings haven't happened yet.

Trying to sign or trade for another swing would be my guess.

[SAGirl]

Things are probably being worked with Williams' contract behind the scenes. I really didn't like him last year. Daye was cut to bring Williams over and he wasn't any better. He had a limited run but he didn't shoot or defend, and he's not athletic or young. I do believe KA needs to continue to develop, particularly his shot, but Reggie will not prove to be a better option.

[SpursFan86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJhrb45UsAA5JI6.jpg:large

[Aztecfan03]

room exc has been used for Manu
not yet. manu could be signed with cap space that's about the same as room exc.

[DAF86]

Gerald Green signed for the min? I want to believe Spurs contacted him but he decided to sign with the Heat.

[Kawhitstorm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJhrb45UsAA5JI6.jpg:large

LoL @ Fredette/Gordon/Sloan being "wing" players.

[Kawhitstorm]

Gerald Green signed for the min? I want to believe Spurs contacted him but he decided to sign with the Heat.

More playing time/shots aka better opportunity to pad stats.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ Also, some niggas love being in Miami, not everybody cares about winning over everything:lol..

[Mr. Body]

Gerald Green signed for the min? I want to believe Spurs contacted him but he decided to sign with the Heat.

Uncoachable in a highly structured system. Nuff said.

[kaji157]

We can also trade Kyle Anderson for a pick and open up more cap space.

[SAGirl]

I doubt the spurs trade him. He's young with not much trade value since he hasn't't shown he can play professionally yet. Also, he's the only young project guy in the roster. THe spurs see something in him that make him worth developin

[Raven]

jeff taylor would be a fantastic pickup.

[Darkwaters]

We can also trade Kyle Anderson for a pick and open up more cap space.

His trade value is probably negative at this point. He laid two total stinkers in summer league. I doubt other GM's are lining up to take him on.

[RayTdropout]

Jeff taylor belongs in prison

[kobyz]

What about Tony Crocker good scorer who playing well in summer league for Memphis and he is San Antonio born?

[monkeypunk]

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Was holding out hope for Milutinov this year, damn...

[NASpurs]

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Delete all the spaces and in turn, you'll get the fixed version which I quoted.

[monkeypunk]

Delete all the spaces.

:toast

[littlecoyotecoin]

Hanga or Davis Bertans please....

Hanga was rumored to be coming over for summer league, then he no showed. He's finally healthy, again, has a little bit of athleticism, and plays at a needed position. But, he's not a great shooter and doesn't seem to be in their plans. I was looking forward to seeing him as a long shot stash of ours, getting something out of him. But, it is probably never meant to be. They'll find something better elsewhere I guess.

[$pursDynasty]

OK so it is not going to happen, because I don't think he is smart enough to let it happen, but I would try to sell Javell McGee to come to the Spurs on a one year minimum deal. Why because a player than is lampooned for being the stupidest in the league would get the shine/rub of being associated with the smartest organization in sports, probably win a ring and then go from free agent afterthought to a top 5 sought after free agent, when the cap sky rockets next year. McGee would just be required to rim protect and play defense, well within his arsenal. I don't think he is the kind of player you build your team around but could fill a very specific niche on this team and might like it enough to stay. An athletic shot blocking center would be one of the few things left on the Spur's checklist for unstoppable force.

[BatManu20]

Jamal McGee on the Spurs would be a clown show, tbh. Pop would prob cut him before the All-Star break.

[lmbebo]

OK so it is not going to happen, because I don't think he is smart enough to let it happen, but I would try to sell Javell McGee to come to the Spurs on a one year minimum deal. Why because a player than is lampooned for being the stupidest in the league would get the shine/rub of being associated with the smartest organization in sports, probably win a ring and then go from free agent afterthought to a top 5 sought after free agent, when the cap sky rockets next year. McGee would just be required to rim protect and play defense, well within his arsenal. I don't think he is the kind of player you build your team around but could fill a very specific niche on this team and might like it enough to stay. An athletic shot blocking center would be one of the few things left on the Spur's checklist for unstoppable force.

Also cuts the other way, if he came over and he flops hard. He'll have that label there.

Plus, he still wants another Pay day. There is some money still left out there, but he doesn't want to work for peanuts. I'm sure he's spent what money he earned already.

[$pursDynasty]

[QUOTE=BatManu20;8110908]Jamal McGee on the Spurs would be a clown show, tbh. Pop would prob cut him before the All
I see where you are coming from Bat, but who knew Verde could be Verde, or Bobo could be Bobo until they got into the Spurs system. JM is a guy that got by on just athleticism, up until now but who knows that if in the right environment and a few trips to the Toro's he might evolve. Yes his rep is of a clown but you would have said the same of DG when he was a Cav. I don't know if JM has the intelligence to realize all that part of being a part of the Spurs system could offer him but in his defense most players don't. They say the right thing but most players want to be the man, the spotlight, ect. If Lebron truly just wanted to win and respect he would have sought the Spurs out, but he never has, why? Because while he wants those things he also wants the power and notoriety. That being said the Spurs might be the only team that can rehab Javell's reputation, but does he want that or a payday? Most players care more for the cash.

[ceperez]

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Was holding out hope for Milutinov this year, damn...

Does the NBA only need to send letters for 1st round picks? What about 2nd round picks like Lalanne?

[bluebellmaniac]

Does the NBA only need to send letters for 1st round picks? What about 2nd round picks like Lalanne?

First round picks have a 2 yr guaranteed salary and are salary slotted. Second round picks don't have that and would be like signing any player to a min contract (although you have more flex in signing a 2nd round pick, you would need cap room to sign for more than the min).

[littlecoyotecoin]

[QUOTE=BatManu20;8110908]Jamal McGee on the Spurs would be a clown show, tbh. Pop would prob cut him before the All
I see where you are coming from Bat, but who knew Verde could be Verde, or Bobo could be Bobo until they got into the Spurs system. JM is a guy that got by on just athleticism, up until now but who knows that if in the right environment and a few trips to the Toro's he might evolve. Yes his rep is of a clown but you would have said the same of DG when he was a Cav. I don't know if JM has the intelligence to realize all that part of being a part of the Spurs system could offer him but in his defense most players don't. They say the right thing but most players want to be the man, the spotlight, ect. If Lebron truly just wanted to win and respect he would have sought the Spurs out, but he never has, why? Because while he wants those things he also wants the power and notoriety. That being said the Spurs might be the only team that can rehab Javell's reputation, but does he want that or a payday? Most players care more for the cash.

Jamal, Javelle, or Javale. A rose that doesn't give a shit by any other name, still won't give a sheet.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Does the NBA only need to send letters for 1st round picks? What about 2nd round picks like Lalanne?

Yes, and it has to be agreed by the players as well. Otherwise the Spurs will lose the rights to these players as their contracts are guarantee unless the player agrees to play overseas to delay the signing.

[SpursFan86]

Cole Aldrich is going to sign with LAC, so knock him off the list of potential centers.

[TheGoldStandard]

He could have been useful but meh. It's looking more and more like Bonner and Delfino

[ceperez]

Cole Aldrich is going to sign with LAC, so knock him off the list of potential centers.

Well, that's the last viable center on the free agent list!

Looks like Spurs have to go looking in Europe for a big.

[DAF86]

More playing time/shots aka better opportunity to pad stats.

Yeah, I have no problem with that. I just hope that's the case and it wasn't a case of Spurs not showing interest.

[Kawhitstorm]

Well, that's the last viable center on the free agent list!

Looks like Spurs have to go looking in Europe for a big.

Still could trade for Miles Plumlee (by absorbing him into the available cap space) or pick up one of those vets (O'Neal/Okafor/Dalembert)

[DAF86]

Uncoachable in a highly structured system. Nuff said.

And how do you know that? I prefer to get the talent and if it doesn't work out you can always send him to the doghouse or cut him. For the vet min there isn't much risk, tbh.

[ceperez]

Is that legit? Did Spurs just sign a 7'3" center? http://www.eurohoops.net/2015/07/featured/107961

[FvckMavs]

David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 6m6 minutes ago
I reached out to the Boban Marjanovic camp Re: San Antonio Spurs. No response or confirmation.

[Mr. Body]

And how do you know that? I prefer to get the talent and if it doesn't work out you can always send him to the doghouse or cut him. For the vet min there isn't much risk, tbh.

It's pretty clear just by watching him. He's leagues away from knowing how to play spurs ball.

[DAF86]

It's pretty clear just by watching him. He's leagues away from knowing how to play spurs ball.

Yeah, like Danny Green's antics while he was in Cleveland, or Mills three point celebrations in Portland, or Gary Neal's high chucking tendencies. For the vet min. get the talent and then see if it doesn't work.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, like Danny Green's antics while he was in Cleveland, or Mills three point celebrations in Portland, or Gary Neal's high chucking tendencies. For the vet min. get the talent and then see if it doesn't work.

Dude's been in the league for years and years and he's still the same player. Guys you mentioned were very early and besides played for good college programs. But whatever, the team also thought it best to pass.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Now for the wing(s). Keep it coming PATFO!

[sharkenleo]

Are Leonard, West, and Green signed yet?

[DAF86]

Dude's been in the league for years and years and he's still the same player. Guys you mentioned were very early and besides played for good college programs. But whatever, the team also thought it best to pass.

How do you know that? Do you have some inside info? I really hope that isn't the case 'cause I don't see any other wing available that would be better than Gerald Green.

[TheGoldStandard]

Yay we are free from the tyranny of Matt bonner

[monkeypunk]

How do you know that? Do you have some inside info? I really hope that isn't the case 'cause I don't see any other wing available that would be better than Gerald Green.

Danny must have told Pop the deal on Gerald or Gerald figured he'd get more shots in Miami to work towards a bigger payday on the next contract.

[Mr. Body]

How do you know that? Do you have some inside info? I really hope that isn't the case 'cause I don't see any other wing available that would be better than Gerald Green.

Dude, the guy can't play team basketball. That's why he's bounced around the league a thousand times. Get over it.

[sharkenleo]

Yay we are free from the tyranny of Matt bonner

Is this official? :(

[raybies]

I think it's gonna come down to Matt and Cady for the third string power forward spot unless they double up on wings for insurance. If it did come down to Matt and Cady, who would you choose?

[Bruno]

With reports about Marjanovic salary ($2M), I guess Spurs will waive Williams and then sign Marjanovic with the rest of their cap space.

Spurs are pretty set at PG/PF/C (there might add another big like Bonner or Lalanne) but they are very thin at SG/SF and con only offer min contracts to fill the roster. It certainly won't be easy bu what Spurs have for them is that it's less difficult to get a decent wing for the min than a decent big.

[DAF86]

Dude, the guy can't play team basketball. That's why he's bounced around the league a thousand times. Get over it.

:lol I love these homers that just becuase we didn't get a player are all like "he's a cancer", "isn't Spurs material", "He's a scrub" but if we get said player are like "yeaaaaah", "what a steal", ":lobt2:", etc.

Dude, you don't know how Gerald Green would have done here, me neither. All I know is that out of the wings that were available he was easily the most talented one, for the vit minum getting him it's a no brainer. If he doesn't pan out, you just cut him and that's it, no big deal.

[Mr. Body]

:lol I love these homers that just becuase we didn't get a player are all like "he's a cancer", "isn't Spurs material", "He's a scrub" but if we get said player are like "yeaaaaah", "what a steal", ":lobt2:", etc.

Dude, you don't know how Gerald Green would have done here, me neither. All I know is that out of the wings that were available he was easily the most talented one, for the vit minum getting him it's a no brainer. If he doesn't pan out, you just cut him and that's it, no big deal.
He has talent, that's why he's in the league. He's as smart as a deer, and that's why he's never stuck anywhere. I love the homers who think the Spurs can turn anyone into a serviceable player. They're not that stupid. Go be a Miami Heat fan.

[TimDunkem]

Maybe he didn't want to come here, or the Spurs didn't want him.

[DAF86]

He has talent, that's why he's in the league. He's as smart as a deer, and that's why he's never stuck anywhere. I love the homers who think the Spurs can turn anyone into a serviceable player. They're not that stupid. Go be a Miami Heat fan.

Gary Neal is exactly what you are describing Gerald Green to be and he was pretty serviceable here. Despite all his talent Patty Mills wasn't even a rotation guy before coming to the Spurs, etc, etc, etc.

If you don't understand how signing a talented guy like Gerald Green for the vit min is a high reward/low risk move then I don't know what to tell you.

[DAF86]

Maybe he didn't want to come here

I hope this is the case.


or the Spurs didn't want him.

I hope this isn't.

[ceperez]

Looks like Boban Marjonovic deal is confirmed.... Paul Garcia tweet says Bufford working on acquiring a wing.

[DPG21920]

Caron Butler to the Kings - good - one less temptation for SA.

[SpursFan86]

I think we'll bring Bonner back as the 6th big, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Aldridge/Duncan/Diaw/West/Boban/Bonner is a big improvement over our bigs rotation last year.

Now if we can just find a capable wing, this offseason will seriously be as close to perfect as you can get.

[TheGoldStandard]

No to bonner for the shear fact that Pop will run him out there because of familiarity when he shouldn't touch the court at all

[baseline bum]

So the roster looks like

Starters:
PG Parker
SG Green
SF Leonard
PF Aldridge
C Duncan

Bench:
6 West
7 Ginobili
8 Diaw
9 Mills
10 Marjonovic
11 Anderson
12 McCallum
13 Bonner

I mean that looks pretty fucking stacked.

[kobyz]

We really need to look at Tony Crocker, 6-6.5 wing who ready to make the jump to the nba, the guy is a shot maker and was born and raised in San Antonio...

[DAF86]

So the roster looks like

Starters:
PG Parker
SG Green
SF Leonard
PF Aldridge
C Duncan

Bench:
6 West
7 Ginobili
8 Diaw
9 Mills
10 Anderson
11 Marjonovic
12 McCallum
13 Bonner

I mean that looks pretty fucking stacked.

The wings look pretty thin, tbh.

[baseline bum]

The wings look pretty thin, tbh.

Green/Leonard/Ginobili with Mills filling spot minutes at the 2 in small lineups and Diaw spot minutes at the 3 in big lineups ain't too bad man. Not as good as having Belinelli there too, but can't complain when your 4/5 rotation is Aldridge/Duncan/West/Diaw.

[kobyz]

So now we have the oldest player, the tallest player and of curse the fattest player in the league...

[Marcus Bryant]

So the roster looks like

Starters:
PG Parker
SG Green
SF Leonard
PF Aldridge
C Duncan

Bench:
6 West
7 Ginobili
8 Diaw
9 Mills
10 Marjonovic
11 Anderson
12 McCallum
13 Bonner

I mean that looks pretty fucking stacked.

My guess is we'll see either Prince or one of the Butlers signed eventually for depth at the 3.

[DAF86]

Green/Leonard/Ginobili with Mills filling spot minutes at the 2 in small lineups and Diaw spot minutes at the 3 in big lineups ain't too bad man. Not as good as having Belinelli there too, but can't complain when your 4/5 rotation is Aldridge/Duncan/West/Diaw.

We need to get another rotation wing. We can't depend on Kawhi, Manu and Green being healthy all season. And we need enough players to stay competitive on every regular season game. HCA will be more important than ever this season, imho.

[SpursFan86]

The wings look pretty thin, tbh.

Pretty sure RC specifically mentioned that the next step for the offseason was finding a backup wing...it's still only July 10th. They'll get SOMEONE, it's just a matter of who. Really can't see them sticking with Reggie Williams.

[ceperez]

Pretty sure RC specifically mentioned that the next step for the offseason was finding a backup wing...it's still only July 10th. They'll get SOMEONE, it's just a matter of who. Really can't see them sticking with Reggie Williams.

At this rate of signups (didn't Spurs just McCallum yesterday?) , I expect a signup by Monday (assume nothing happens on the weekends).

[Marcus Bryant]

Shved, Prince, or Rasual Butler.

[raybies]

So now we have the oldest player, the tallest player and of curse the fattest player in the league...
i Admit, i loled on this one

[raybies]

My guess is we'll see either Prince or one of the Butlers signed eventually for depth at the 3.

Would rather have Butler at this point. At least he could stretch the D.

[ceperez]

i Admit, i loled on this one

At 5'10" who is shorter than Mills?

[raybies]

At 5'10" who is shorter than Mills?

Isaiah Thomas

[BillMc]

So the roster looks like

Starters:
PG Parker
SG Green
SF Leonard
PF Aldridge
C Duncan

Bench:
6 West
7 Ginobili
8 Diaw
9 Mills
10 Marjonovic
11 Anderson
12 McCallum
13 Bonner

I mean that looks pretty fucking stacked.

Yeah, looks nice. 1 more 2/3 guy and we're ready to roll.

[DAF86]

Shved, Prince, or Rasual Butler.

James Jones.

[Russ]

So now it's down to a shooter or a perimeter defender?

[monkeypunk]

Shved, Prince, or Rasual Butler.

Shved because he can pass and is still young. No thanks on the other geezers, too freaking old for our new roster.

[SpursFan86]

So now it's down to a shooter or a perimeter defender?

Obviously it'd be ideal to get someone who can do both at least somewhat decently...but if I had to choose, I think I'd lean towards a defender. We already have Mills/Manu/Diaw/West off the bench, and all of them are capable shooters. I'm not really worried about a lack of spacing on this team. What I am worried about, however, is one of Kawhi/Green getting injured and our perimeter defense turning to shit. We already sacrificed a bit of defense by replacing Splitter with Aldridge; I think it'd be wise to make up for it by getting a guy who's at least solid defensively to replace Belinelli.

[kaji157]

Shved would be great and also a steal for any less than 5 millions, i think will end up with Delfino if he is in good health.

[CaptainLate]

You really think this happens? I can see LJC making the team for all the reasons you just mentioned but I can't see LaLanne making this team this year.

LJC staying overseas. Cady is a keeper for D-League.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2517561-8-nba-rookies-already-looking-like-steals-from-the-2015-class/page/7
Drafted: No. 55 / Age: 23 / Position: C

To be clear, Cady Lalanne is not going to emerge as a key player for the San Antonio Spurs during his rookie season. He'll likely spend much of the year playing in the NBA Developmental League, though he could certainly fill a bench role with the real squad and earn garbage-time minutes.

But already, the 23-year-old is providing hope that he could eventually be something more.

Through two games, the UMass product has been an aggressive defender, taking advantage of the extra fouls players are granted during summer league action and attempting to contest just about everything. Sure, he's been whistled for illegal contact quite often, but he's also dealt with tough matchups—including Jahlil Okafor of the Philadelphia 76ers—and come away with six blocks.

He's also attempted to take some triples. Though none have fallen, it's already encouraging that he's trying to stretch out the floor and fit in with the modern-day NBA.

Players drafted within the final six picks of the night aren't expected to be immediate contributors, and few ever make a significant impact at the NBA level. The very fact that Lalanne is offering hope he could be an exception makes him an early-steal candidate, even if he doesn't have the numbers or current impact of many other players who are handed that sought-after tag.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I would guess the Spurs' interest in the last wing position is either in Reggie Williams, Dairis Bertans or Ryan Broekhoff. I assume we won't see that signing happen at least til SL is over on the 20th.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How far were you willing to go to get Aldridge in terms of letting players go?

“The planning of it, to move Tiago and not know you were going to get LaMarcus, that was a significant risk. Especially someone who had had a big part of a lot of success we’ve had in this building. So the planning that went into the sequencing, the alignment of the contracts, there were a lot of decisions. We’ll miss the relationships we had with Marco and with Cory and with Aron, and Tiago. Losing those guys…and Jeff Ayres, we don’t know what’s going to happen yet. And Matt. So losing those relationships, not only a big part of the success but the chemistry and the culture of the group, you have to continue to recognize there will be some losses in this process. It’s never easy.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2015/07/10/youre-never-confident-you-plan-as-well-as-you-can-a-qa-with-r-c-buford/

Makes it sound like Bonner is done as a Spur.

[Kineto]

we have seen a lot of signing in a small amount of time, but i guess it's over now.

Spurs have to use their cap space before than Green and Leonard sign their new contract, but there's no need to hurry now.

My guess is that they will maybe sign Bonner, and that the remaining slots will be filled after the training camp. (and that they will keep one roster spot open for buyout player in february)

[Bruno]

Looking at wing FA, Dorell Wright might be the best available to fill Spurs needs right now. Aside of him, there are some old vets like Jason Richardson and Tayshaun Prince. There are also some players with huge question marks regarding their health Delfino or Fields.

[TheMulletMan3000]

https://twitter.com/PrioritySports/status/619608107103031296

[TheMulletMan3000]

The Spurs have signed free agent guard Jonathon Simmons to a two-year, veteran-minimum deal, sources tell RealGM. Second year team option.

[cd98]

Who?

[lmbebo]

Who?

I concur.

Edit - looks like he may have played with the Toros. may be a TC invite.

[TheMulletMan3000]

Who?

Only RC knows

[SAGirl]

The Spurs have signed free agent guard Jonathon Simmons to a two-year, veteran-minimum deal, sources tell RealGM. Second year team option.
It would be a good pick up if true. He is athletic and defends well. HE can also shoot the 3 and can get his own shot. The only downside I saw of him was ballhandling. More TO prone than KA, but neither guy will be asked to create like they did in the d'league.

[TheMulletMan3000]

It would be a good pick up if true. He is athletic and defends well. HE can also shoot the 3 and can get his own shot. The only downside I saw of him was ballhandling. More TO prone than KA, but neither guy will be asked to create like they did in the d'league.

Thanks for the info:tu

[kaji157]

So can someone clear out how the roster looks like as fo now with today signings?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Extremely surprised/impressed? they've gone on a completely different path from signing vets for the last spots and went with McCallum, Marjanovic and Simmons.

[BillMc]

So can someone clear out how the roster looks like as fo now with today signings?

Duncan/Diaw/Marjanovic
Aldridge/West
Leonard/Anderson
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Parker/Mills/McCallum

You could switch Diaw and West if you want. Probably makes no difference.

[ceperez]

So can someone clear out how the roster looks like as fo now with today signings?

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Leonard/Anderson
Aldrige/West/Diaw
Duncan/Marjanovic

13 players.

[ginobilized]

Unbelievable offseason!

Who is on the 13-man roster as of now?

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/West/Diaw
Duncan/Marjanovic

[ginobilized]

Parker/Mills/McCallum
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Leonard/Anderson
Aldrige/West/Diaw
Duncan/Marjanovic

13 players.


Psych!

[ceperez]

Extremely surprised/impressed? they've gone on a completely different path from signing vets for the last spots and went with McCallum, Marjanovic and Simmons.

I like the move... bring in young guys for continuity and upside.

[Splits]

RC on Errors and Bonner:


How far were you willing to go to get Aldridge in terms of letting players go?

“The planning of it, to move Tiago and not know you were going to get LaMarcus, that was a significant risk. Especially someone who had had a big part of a lot of success we’ve had in this building. So the planning that went into the sequencing, the alignment of the contracts, there were a lot of decisions. We’ll miss the relationships we had with Marco and with Cory and with Aron, and Tiago. Losing those guys…and Jeff Ayres, we don’t know what’s going to happen yet. And Matt. So losing those relationships, not only a big part of the success but the chemistry and the culture of the group, you have to continue to recognize there will be some losses in this process. It’s never easy.”

[Mr. Body]

Give a younger player a shot. If they suck and we still need Matty, go to the nearest Subway sandwiches to find him.

[lmbebo]

RC on Errors and Bonner:

Sounds like they don't know whats going to happen with Ayers and Boner.

[spursince#99]

Bonner will be back.

[CaptainLate]

...he's the only young project guy in the roster. The spurs see something in him that make him worth developing.

Re: KA, everyone was so WOWED that he dropped to us in the draft. Looking more and more like those teams knew better than to waste a pick.

[Big Empty]

WOOOHOOO NO MATT BONNER!!!!

[mbass]

WOOOHOOO NO MATT BONNER!!!!

That's not how I interpreted the comment - Matt looks like an undetermined at this point, as does Ayres.

[Mr. Body]

Re: KA, everyone was so WOWED that he dropped to us in the draft. Looking more and more like those teams knew better than to waste a pick.

The 2014 second round is just chock full of tremendous basketball players.

[kaji157]

Duncan/Diaw/Marjanovic
Aldridge/West
Leonard/Anderson
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Parker/Mills/McCallum

You could switch Diaw and West if you want. Probably makes no difference.

Thanks, also thank you ceperez

[ceperez]

Thanks, also thank you ceperez

The interesting similarity between McCallum and Simmons:

McCallum.... no name school... 40" vertical... 24 years old.
Simmons... no name school... 38" vertical... 25 years old.

Both aren't that young, both come from schools you never heard of, both have ridiculous vertical.

To put this in perspective, Kyle Anderson is 21 years old.

[kaji157]

The interesting similarity between McCallum and Simmons:

McCallum.... no name school... 40" vertical... 24 years old.
Simmons... no name school... 38" vertical... 25 years old.

Both aren't that young, both come from schools you never heard of, both have ridiculous vertical.

To put this in perspective, Kyle Anderson is 21 years old.

I still think we will add one more SF

[Dverde]

Bonner should hit up Cuban. I hear the Mavs need some big man depth

[palangi]

The interesting similarity between McCallum and Simmons:

McCallum.... no name school... 40" vertical... 24 years old.
Simmons... no name school... 38" vertical... 25 years old.

Both aren't that young, both come from schools you never heard of, both have ridiculous vertical.

To put this in perspective, Kyle Anderson is 21 years old.
when did the university of Houston become a no name school?

[Darkwaters]

The interesting similarity between McCallum and Simmons:

McCallum.... no name school... 40" vertical... 24 years old.
Simmons... no name school... 38" vertical... 25 years old.

Both aren't that young, both come from schools you never heard of, both have ridiculous vertical.

To put this in perspective, Kyle Anderson is 21 years old.

You've never heard of the University of Houston?

[ceperez]

when did the university of Houston become a no name school?

When was the last time they qualified for the NCAA tournament?

If a school doesn't make the NCAA tournament in a consistent basis, it is practically a "no-name" school from the basketball perspective.

So for example, Harvard is a well known school, but rarely ever do you see someone from Harvard drafted into the NBA.

[palangi]

When was the last time they qualified for the NCAA tournament?

If a school doesn't make the NCAA tournament in a consistent basis, it is practically a "no-name" school from the basketball perspective.

So for example, Harvard is a well known school, but rarely ever do you see someone from Harvard drafted into the NBA.
I think no name schools are like Lehigh, sacramento st., prairie view, etc...

Those are no name schools.

[palangi]

When was the last time they qualified for the NCAA tournament?

If a school doesn't make the NCAA tournament in a consistent basis, it is practically a "no-name" school from the basketball perspective.

So for example, Harvard is a well known school, but rarely ever do you see someone from Harvard drafted into the NBA.
is the University of Clemson a no name school then?

georgia isn't putting guys in the league or making the tournament either, are they a no name school?

The USC trojans aren't pumping out NBA players or making the tournament, are they a no name school?

[Darkwaters]

When was the last time they qualified for the NCAA tournament?

If a school doesn't make the NCAA tournament in a consistent basis, it is practically a "no-name" school from the basketball perspective.

So for example, Harvard is a well known school, but rarely ever do you see someone from Harvard drafted into the NBA.


No, a "no-name" school is IUPUI.

But we've all heard of the University of Houston...hence it's not a no-name school. Maybe not a basketball school...but not a no-name either.

[ceperez]

No, a "no-name" school is IUPUI.

But we've all heard of the University of Houston...hence it's not a no-name school. Maybe not a basketball school...but not a no-name either.

I'm talking about a 'no-name' basketball school.

Harvard is a 'no-name' basketball school.

University of Houston isn't even University of Texas in Houston. In other words, it's like City University of New York (CUNY)... a no name school.

[Drom John]

when did the university of Houston become a no name school?

When did Detroit with as many HoFers as Houston (two) become a no name school?

[Marcus Bryant]

MFer have you ever heard of Phi Slamma Jamma?

[jhfenton]

MFer have you ever heard of Phi Slamma Jamma?

They must not be old enough.

[timvp]

MFer have you ever heard of Phi Slamma Jamma?

"Is that on the Whataburger menu?"

[TXstbobcat]

MFer have you ever heard of Phi Slamma Jamma?

unfortunately for Houston NC State has heard of them.

[Galileo]

The interesting similarity between McCallum and Simmons:

McCallum.... no name school... 40" vertical... 24 years old.
Simmons... no name school... 38" vertical... 25 years old.

Both aren't that young, both come from schools you never heard of, both have ridiculous vertical.

To put this in perspective, Kyle Anderson is 21 years old.

Elvin Hayes, Clyde Drexler, Akeem Olajuwon went to Houston, I heard.

[ceperez]

Here are the 43 players drafted from University of Houston. http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/draft.cgi?college=houston

The last time anybody of note that got drafted from the school was back in the 1980's.

1980 was like over 35 years ago. So how is this a reputable basketball program? Maybe it had a name in the past, but it has been a no-name school for over 30 years now.

[Darkwaters]

University of Houston has Hakeem the Dream.

Good enough for me.

[SpursDynasty21]

What is the roster situation right now? How many spots are currently available?

[Obioneginobili]

It sits at 13. So we have two left. We need a legit back up sf Kyle anderson ain't gonna cut it.

[CGD]

Rasul Butler or Teyshon Prince sound about right, but maybe they find another gem from Europe like they did today.

Also, is it too early to start thinking about buy out/stretch market people? Wonder if Gerald Wallace can play any SF these days.

[lmbebo]

Rasul Butler or Teyshon Prince sound about right, but maybe they find another gem from Europe like they did today.

Also, is it too early to start thinking about buy out/stretch market people? Wonder if Gerald Wallace can play any SF these days.

Gerald Wallace is *done*

[Obioneginobili]

Even in his prime Wallace made a house of bricks with that horrible shot of his

[Darkwaters]

Reports are saying that that the Kings are probably going to sign Andrea Bargnani. I know some people on this forum wanted the Spurs to sign him.

[Darkwaters]

Never mind. Apparently he just signed with the Nets.

[Shabazz]

So we all agree that ceperez has no idea what a "no name school" is.

[DAF86]

Dorell Wright or James Jones. Get one of those.

[Beaverfuzz]

So we all agree that ceperez has no idea what a "no name school" is.

Fuck that guy.

[ChumpDumper]

So we all agree that ceperez has no idea what a "no name school" is.lol

No name city. Their sports teams have been bad.

[kobyz]

What about Glenn Rice jr for last wing roster spot? Shooter and a scorer, complete well the athletic Simmons, you won't find better potential for the last spot...

[look_at_g_shred]

What about Glenn Rice jr for last wing roster spot? Shooter and a scorer, complete well the athletic Simmons, you won't find better potential for the last spot...
My gut tells me they are going to fill that spot with a veteran. Keep an eye out for Dorell Wright.

[kaji157]

The correct thing to do will be to have a seasoned player to fill out that 14th spot.
We already have yougsters as 3rd PG and SG. A vet will make sense if either of them doesn´t pan out.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I think no name schools are like Lehigh, sacramento st., prairie view, etc...

Those are no name schools.

Hey, Lehigh won the 1977 Division II national football championship...how can you call the Lehigh Engineers No Name?

[ceperez]

The correct thing to do will be to have a seasoned player to fill out that 14th spot.
We already have yougsters as 3rd PG and SG. A vet will make sense if either of them doesn´t pan out.

Spurs don't need an additional seasoned player. 4 players in the starting 5 have championship rings, some of them have multiple rings. 3 players in the 2nd string have championship rings, one of them with multiple rings.

So we another vet player to baby sit the 3 new rookies????

The Spurs need young players to learn from the vets when they retire.

I'm glad they have Marjanovic and Aldridge to learn from Duncan, McCallum to learn from Parker and Simmons to learn from Manu.

[SpursFan86]

I also think they'll look for a veteran wing. Simmons and Anderson are prospects who aren't sure things when it comes to being rotation players...especially come playoff time. It'd be nice to have another experienced wing who we know could at least hold his own in case someone goes down with an injury.

Dorell Wright is the best guy available at this point IMO.

[look_at_g_shred]

What about Fransisco Garcia?

[DesignatedT]

Depending on his health, I could see the Spurs giving Delfino a shot.

[monkeypunk]

Depending on his health, I could see the Spurs giving Delfino a shot.

There was already a report that the Spurs doctors were checking him out a few weeks ago. I can totally see them bringing him in since he would already have chemistry with Manu and I think they are good friends. Might be a PATFO thank you to Manu for coming back.

Plus the guy is a pro, can hit a shot and play team defense.

[outmap]

2 remaining spots: Landry Fields and Jeff Whitey please. :D

[ribcage6foot6]

There was already a report that the Spurs doctors were checking him out a few weeks ago. I can totally see them bringing him in since he would already have chemistry with Manu and I think they are good friends. Might be a PATFO thank you to Manu for coming back.

Plus the guy is a pro, can hit a shot and play team defense.

Definitely worth the look the Spurs are giving him. Unless his play has fallen off a cliff the two years he's been out, he should be a more than capable ball handler/distributor to take some of the burden off of Manu, filling in for him during back-to-backs. I'd prefer to see Simmons and Anderson absorb most of Belli's minutes but if they don't look like legitimate NBA players by midseason, we could have Delfino on the back-burner ready to contribute during the playoff run. His career 3pt% speaks for itself, if he's got a leg to stand on, bring him aboard.

[bluebellmaniac]

I thought this was interesting from the CBA rules:

A team may have a maximum of 13 players on its active roster, and at least eight active players must suit up for every game. Any remaining players are placed in the Inactive List, and cannot play in games. Teams may have a maximum of two players on the Inactive List; this can drop to zero for up to two weeks at a time, and additional, temporary inactive positions may be added with league approval in hardship cases. The Inactive List can change up to 60 minutes before opening tip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opening_tip) by informing the official scorer of the game. A player can be inactive for as little as one game. Players sent to the NBA Development League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Development_League) will continue to count on a team’s inactive list. While individual teams must carry a minimum of 13 (12 active plus one inactive) players, the NBA guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team.*
*Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License) (here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Collective_Bargaining_Agreement#Roster_size))

So a team can have 13 players but only for up to 2 weeks. The normal minimum is 14 players. So I had been thinking that we could roll with the 13 we have and see what shakes out at the buyout so as to minimize any tax implications, but that is not the case. We have to sign a 14th player. I do not know what the rule is for 10 day contracts, so I assume we can't do the 10 day contract thing right off the bat.

I think we sign the 14th guy who likely won't ever see the light of day from the far end of the bench and this is who we roll with:

Parker / Mills / McCallum
Green / Manu / Simmons
Kawhi / K Anderson / R Williams
LMA / West
Duncan / Bobo / Bobi

[Kawhitstorm]

So a team can have 13 players but only for up to 2 weeks. The normal minimum is 14 players. So I had been thinking that we could roll with the 13 we have and see what shakes out at the buyout so as to minimize any tax implications, but that is not the case. We have to sign a 14th player. I do not know what the rule is for 10 day contracts, so I assume we can't do the 10 day contract thing right off the bat.

I think we sign the 14th guy who likely won't ever see the light of day from the far end of the bench and this is who we roll with:



Teams are allowed to carry 15 players thus, if needed, the PATFO can still bite the bullet as far as taxes go (which should be much since it would be pro-rated for only 3 months) & scavenge the buyout market even after signing the required 14th player. It would also seem logical to add a shooter to replace Marco thus I don't think the 14th roster spot would be a bench warmer such as Reggie Williams. Players that have been linked to the team in the past couple of days only support that thought.

[bluebellmaniac]

Teams are allowed to carry 15 players thus, if needed, the PATFO can still bite the bullet as far as taxes go (which should be much since it would be pro-rated for only 3 months) & scavenge the buyout market even after signing the required 14th player. It would also seem logical to add a shooter to replace Marco thus I don't think the 14th roster spot would be a bench warmer such as Reggie Williams. Players that have been linked to the team in the past couple of days only support that thought.


I think there's a bar set that any signee would have to meet. It's not a high bar by any means, but they do have to have a higher upside than Reggie or be significantly better. Also, given that Reggie's contract is fully non-guaranteed, the replacement would really have to be worth it. The Luxury tax is no joke, and next year looks like we may have to write some IOUs, so I would think we would be highly reluctant to go over this year. Keeping a fully unguaranteed contract helps toward meeting that goal.

We are looking, but I would be surprised if we sign anyone else before the buyout deadline.

[ceperez]

2 remaining spots: Landry Fields and Jeff Whitey please. :D

Well.... not sure if Landy Fields ever recovered from his injuries.

[ceperez]

There was already a report that the Spurs doctors were checking him out a few weeks ago. I can totally see them bringing him in since he would already have chemistry with Manu and I think they are good friends. Might be a PATFO thank you to Manu for coming back.

Plus the guy is a pro, can hit a shot and play team defense.

There's an interview out there that he may be interested in playing for the Spurs.

It'll all depend on whether he has anything left in the tank.

[exstatic]

2 remaining spots: Landry Fields and Jeff Whitey please. :D

I would say that as close to the tax as they are, the Spurs will stop at 14 players this year.

If they do add a 15th, it will be late in the year, a la Baynes or Patty, when they came over. The tax/cap hit is very low for a late year contract.

[Darkwaters]

I would say that as close to the tax as they are, the Spurs will stop at 14 players this year.

If they do add a 15th, it will be late in the year, a la Baynes or Patty, when they came over. The tax/cap hit is very low for a late year contract.

I'm still guessing that the 15th man addition will be more like Boris Diaw actually. There are always interesting players that get bought out after the trade deadline every year. The Spurs, as an obvious championship hopeful, will be a pretty sexy choice for a bought out vet looking for a late season run at a ring. If nothing interesting comes out of that they can always do their usual 10-day contracts and D-League raiding to fill it out.

[Seventyniner]

I don't think the Spurs will necessarily want multiple bought-out vets when it comes time for that. I can see them signing one more minimum contract to get to 14 and sitting on the last roster spot in case something interesting comes up.

[kobyz]

Anyway we can lure Allen Crabbe from Portland? Good talent, Like him as a player, i think he's exactly what we need to fill our wing situation... What will be enough to get him?

[Rev Hill]

Anyway we can lure Allen Crabbe from Portland? Good talent, Like him as a player, i think he's exactly what we need to fill our wing situation... What will be enough to get him?

You think Portland really wants to deal with the Spurs? Crabbe is under contract with the Blazers. Believe Blazers have until end of this month to either waive him or he stays on their roster for this year. Do agree he is a good prospect to consider.

[Das Texan]

Spurs will need that 14th and possibly 15th roster spots for when Pop rests guys like Timmy and Manu especially.

[ceperez]

Spurs will need that 14th and possibly 15th roster spots for when Pop rests guys like Timmy and Manu especially.

Let's see... on a back to back, Spurs will likely sit Tim, Manu and Tony. The lineup will then look like this:

McCalllum
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Marjanovic

Mills
Simmons
Anderson
Diaw
West

Still a pretty good team!!

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

At this point they are just looking for an upgrade over Reggie Williams. Only Dorell Wright and possibly Rasual Butler are upgrades over Williams. Seems like Bonners gone for good as well. would have heard something by now since they have gotten everyone that they wanted this off season. Maybe he joins at the end of the season if their are no decent players bought out. But wow this has been an amazing off season. Did a rebuild while being a true contender for a NBA championship and are still looking for minor upgrades to an already unstoppable roster(on paper).

[Bruno]

I'm interested to see what will be Spurs position regarding the luxury tax.

If Spurs don't sign another player and go with 13 players, they will be just under the tax.
If Spurs go with 14 players , they should be just a little above the tax. They could however go under if Boris doesn't reach all his incentives and if West has signed only a 1 year contract and not a 2 years contract with a player option for the second season.
With 15 players, Spurs will be over the tax threshold.

By being under the tax, Spurs should receive about $3M when the luxury tax collected will be redistributed. Will Spurs really try to get these $3M or will they be fine by being around $1M above the tax threshold?

[ceperez]

I'm interested to see what will be Spurs position regarding the luxury tax.

If Spurs don't sign another player and go with 13 players, they will be just under the tax.
If Spurs go with 14 players , they should be just a little above the tax. They could however go under if Boris doesn't reach all his incentives and if West has signed only a 1 year contract and not a 2 years contract with a player option for the second season.
With 15 players, Spurs will be over the tax threshold.

By being under the tax, Spurs should receive about $3M when the luxury tax collected will be redistributed. Will Spurs really try to get these $3M or will they be fine by being around $1M above the tax threshold?

Well, how far away are they from the surpassing the cap? Can they squeeze in another rookie at $500k?

[GSH]

I'm interested to see what will be Spurs position regarding the luxury tax.

If Spurs don't sign another player and go with 13 players, they will be just under the tax.
If Spurs go with 14 players , they should be just a little above the tax. They could however go under if Boris doesn't reach all his incentives and if West has signed only a 1 year contract and not a 2 years contract with a player option for the second season.
With 15 players, Spurs will be over the tax threshold.

By being under the tax, Spurs should receive about $3M when the luxury tax collected will be redistributed. Will Spurs really try to get these $3M or will they be fine by being around $1M above the tax threshold?


Textbook bind. When you're right at the threshold, a $1M player can actually cost $4M. That last player would have to be a really good fit.

On the other hand, how sad would it be to pass on someone who might help get #6, and then wind up just barely over the threshold anyway?

[Bruno]

Well, how far away are they from the surpassing the cap? Can they squeeze in another rookie at $500k?

A free agent signing (that is to say not a draft pick) can't cost less than the minimum salary of a 2 years vet against the tax.

For example, Janathon Simmons, while having a $525,093 salary, will count for $947,276 against the tax.

[callo1]

Rudy Fernandez was looking to come back to the NBA last year, what is he up to? 14th spot?

[nickdaquick]

Why do people assume Bonner is gone? Just because the Kings are interested in him doesn't mean he's interested in them. I can't imagine Bonner going from the Spurs to the Kings, I think he would rather retire.

[Vic Petro]

Why do people assume Bonner is gone? Just because the Kings are interested in him doesn't mean he's interested in them. I can't imagine Bonner going from the Spurs to the Kings, I think he would rather retire.

Disagree. I think Bonner loves basketball and knows that $500K salaries don't grow on trees. It's a relatively small window to earn these sorts of salaries for professional basketball players. Being a New Hampshire guy, I don't think Bonner sneezes at the chance to earn $500K and plays until a team is no longer willing to pay him.

[nickdaquick]

Disagree. I think Bonner loves basketball and knows that $500K salaries don't grow on trees. It's a relatively small window to earn these sorts of salaries for professional basketball players. Being a New Hampshire guy, I don't think Bonner sneezes at the chance to earn $500K and plays until a team is no longer willing to pay him.

Eh. I think he's made his money. He's not an extravagant guy so I don't see him needing the money. In fact he may go straight into coaching when he retires. Can you imagine going from the Spurs with Tim, Tony, & Manu to Sacramento with Cousins and Rondo? Poor Marco.

[Bruno]

Bonner wants to be back with Spurs for the min.
The real question is: Do Spurs want him back?

[ceperez]

Disagree. I think Bonner loves basketball and knows that $500K salaries don't grow on trees. It's a relatively small window to earn these sorts of salaries for professional basketball players. Being a New Hampshire guy, I don't think Bonner sneezes at the chance to earn $500K and plays until a team is no longer willing to pay him.

Bonner has been in the league for 11 years, so its not $500k but almost $1.5m salary. At this time, that's will be too expensive for the Spurs.

[Aztecfan03]

Bonner has been in the league for 11 years, so its not $500k but almost $1.5m salary. At this time, that's will be too expensive for the Spurs.
for luxury tax purposes, i think it's the same. But that is still 1 million more to pay him over some rookie-type player.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

C Duncan/Diaw/Boban
PF Aldridge/West/Bonner
SF Kawhi/Kyle
SG Danny/Manu/Simmons/Reggie
PG Tony/Patty/Ray

Full roster.

[BillMc]

C Duncan/Diaw/Boban
PF Aldridge/West/Bonner
SF Kawhi/Kyle
SG Danny/Manu/Simmons/Reggie
PG Tony/Patty/Ray

Full roster.

Is Reggie still on the team?

[TXstbobcat]

Is Reggie still on the team?

I think he signed a 2 year deal but the only portion of the contract that was guaranteed was what he earned for last season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Is Reggie still on the team?

At this point, I would assume so. The Spurs would have to announce that he's been waived cause he had a 2-year deal.

[Ocotillo]

Bonner has been in the league for 11 years, so its not $500k but almost $1.5m salary. At this time, that's will be too expensive for the Spurs.

Oops.

[raybies]

At this point, I would assume so. The Spurs would have to announce that he's been waived cause he had a 2-year deal.

Well they haven't announced much after they signed LA, so they could have already waived him. I think Eddie is a better prospect if they are keeping him.

[ChumpDumper]

Well they haven't announced much after they signed LA, so they could have already waived him. I think Eddie is a better prospect if they are keeping him.Eddie is shooting 44% from the arc in Vegas. If he goes on one of his streaks, he could easily get some guaranteed camp money to see how he plays with the mothership.

[Brox6]

The wings seems our soft spot..hope simmons continues to develop

[SAGirl]

Well they haven't announced much after they signed LA, so they could have already waived him. I think Eddie is a better prospect if they are keeping him.
I really didn't like Reggie. He is awful at defense and for a shooter, he really didn't shoot well at all last year. He can shoot however ( had good % in th d'league). I thought they never intended to keep him unless he showed fire an He didn't, but then again, they kept Daye last year so... it ids ossible we see Reggie again. If he goes the Daye route and all of a sudden can't shoot, I see him getting waived. Unlike Anderson and Simmons, he is one dimensional and older thus unlikely to get any better.