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N0 LyF3 ScRuB
07-05-2015, 02:14 PM
Seems on various boards there's a 50/50 on wanting him back.

I want him back. I think if we ring this year, without Manu, just wouldn't feel the same. It would also cement mainstream media that Parker > Gino if they rang without him.

elemento
07-05-2015, 02:16 PM
Yes I do.

BillMc
07-05-2015, 02:16 PM
Even old, we won't get anything close to equal value for the money.

Plus I like watching him play.

TXstbobcat
07-05-2015, 02:16 PM
I want Manu back. Need his veteran presence coming off the bench.

m>s
07-05-2015, 02:17 PM
Why wouldn't you? Veteran presence and still a decent backup. He might be able to win one more ring.

Robz4000
07-05-2015, 02:17 PM
Do you have to keep spamming threads like a 14 year old girl on a sugar rush?

>Yes
>No
>Cats!

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
07-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Didn't read faggot ass Robz post. Dude sucks more dicks than Jefferson.

Vic Petro
07-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Will be a landslide for yes tbh

RD2191
07-05-2015, 02:18 PM
OP is a cat loving faggot.

ohmwrecker
07-05-2015, 02:19 PM
Yes. Even at his age and deterioration level, there is no one in the league that can replace what Manu does for the Spurs.

HarlemHeat37
07-05-2015, 02:24 PM
Yes. Even at his age and deterioration level, there is no one in the league that can replace what Manu does for the Spurs.

This..as a 15-20 MPG backup that can occasionally give you more, there's absolutely no better alternative IMO..

hater
07-05-2015, 02:25 PM
His body is finished. Better to move on to a warm body

GooberNuts
07-05-2015, 02:30 PM
If Manu wants to be back, you take him in a heartbeat

pgardn
07-05-2015, 02:30 PM
Absolutely yes. He will compete from the bench more and stay vocal during timeouts. Tim and Manu will be heard by others, subtle leadership is important on this team.

Proxy
07-05-2015, 02:34 PM
Yes, no doubt

Solid D
07-05-2015, 02:36 PM
Yes, of course.

hater
07-05-2015, 02:38 PM
I would not mind him as a coach towelboy role thou

Mikeanaro
07-05-2015, 02:39 PM
Of course, everybody loves Manu.

Nathan89
07-05-2015, 02:40 PM
Yes, I want the Spurs to be as good as possible.

spurraider21
07-05-2015, 02:42 PM
its not a matter of want... we need him tbh

Horry Hipcheck
07-05-2015, 02:42 PM
Yes. Even as he ages, and his body deteriorates, he's still capable of being a brilliant passer and scoring threat. He rebounded from his 2013 Finals disaster quite well in 2014, I thought. Plus, he's done so much for the Spurs organization these last 13 years, that for him to retire without giving the team and fans a season's worth of notice, just doesn't feel right. He could really contribute to (and benefit from) another playoff run with Aldridge on the roster.

Embedded
07-05-2015, 02:43 PM
Absolutely

tholdren
07-05-2015, 02:50 PM
His body is finished. Better to move on to a warm body

dumb

RD2191
07-05-2015, 02:53 PM
Every other game, tbh. No back to backs or anything like that. His body is failing him imo but he's still good for a 20+ point game if needed in the playoffs.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
07-05-2015, 02:54 PM
Every other game, tbh. No back to backs or anything like that. His body is failing him imo but he's still good for a 20+ point game if needed in the playoffs.

I think so too, but I don't think he'll get that chance. He was benched in the playoffs.. never thought I'd see the day.. but I think Pop finally gave up on his "clutchness".

RD2191
07-05-2015, 02:58 PM
I think so too, but I don't think he'll get that chance. He was benched in the playoffs.. never thought I'd see the day.. but I think Pop finally gave up on his "clutchness".
The series against the Clips was a shitfest for everyone not named Tim Duncan, tbh. I still think he's useful in certain situations. He can mentor Kawhi/Green and maybe teach them some more offensive moves.

south side spur
07-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Manu sounds like he's ready to spend time with his family and there's nothing wrong with that. He doesn't have the same desire because he realizes he's not what he was and it hurts him. He only knows how to play one way and with his physical limitations it usually costs the team. He can't thread the needle with his passes anymore and his shot selection is detrimental, specifically his 3 point attempts. I know most of y'all say Cory's gone but I'd rather have him back than Manu.

ohmwrecker
07-05-2015, 03:00 PM
Kawhi and Danny need to learn the Euro-step.

ddjeffries
07-05-2015, 03:01 PM
Yes we need a bench. No one on the market will be as good of value as Manu even with his age.

RD2191
07-05-2015, 03:02 PM
Kawhi and Danny need to learn the Euro-step.
Yes. I'm dumbfounded as to why they haven't yet.

mbass
07-05-2015, 03:13 PM
Yes. Even as he ages, and his body deteriorates, he's still capable of being a brilliant passer and scoring threat. He rebounded from his 2013 Finals disaster quite well in 2014, I thought. Plus, he's done so much for the Spurs organization these last 13 years, that for him to retire without giving the team and fans a season's worth of notice, just doesn't feel right. He could really contribute to (and benefit from) another playoff run with Aldridge on the roster.

Totally agree - still has that great court vision and is still a great passer. I actually prefer him to Parker.

CaptainLate
07-05-2015, 03:31 PM
If Manu wants to be back, you take him in a heartbeat

At the right price.

CaptainLate
07-05-2015, 03:33 PM
Absolutely yes. He will compete from the bench more and stay vocal during timeouts. Tim and Manu will be heard by others, subtle leadership is important on this team.

He can start learning bench coaching and be Messina's assistant in 5 years.

ElNono
07-05-2015, 04:50 PM
If we were loaded at the SG position or with playmakers, then I think walking away would be fine, but as it is, and with the limited resources the team will have now, I think it makes sense for him to return...

TheGreatYacht
07-05-2015, 05:34 PM
His body is finished. Better to move on to a warm body

Mr. Body
07-05-2015, 05:47 PM
Is this a serious question?

EVAY
07-05-2015, 05:53 PM
Even old, we won't get anything close to equal value for the money.

Plus I like watching him play.

pretty much says it.

DarrinS
07-05-2015, 05:53 PM
So, on the no side, you have hater and TheGreatDouche

dorrrr
07-05-2015, 06:04 PM
how the fuck can you not want one of the biggest winners of this league in the last 20 years to sign again.
I'd want him to be on the court in the last minutes of any game even if he's 60 and had 20 turnovers by then.
You don't give up one of your cornerstones like that.

DMC
07-05-2015, 06:21 PM
Manu is invaluable simply because of his will to win. Guys get down, give up when they are playing poorly, and they need someone like Manu who gives a shit about games in January.

TheGoldStandard
07-05-2015, 06:23 PM
For vet minimum but honestly don't see what he can do for the future

TD 21
07-05-2015, 06:26 PM
This shouldn't even be a question. Try finding a better sixth man/third wing/backup PG, on offense, for 4.2M. I'm presuming they'll guarantee half of his salary for a second season to get him to that number.

By his lofty standards, he was pretty damn bad from about the new year on last season, but I don't know why so many are acting as if he's a borderline NBA player.

ElNono
07-05-2015, 06:27 PM
For vet minimum but honestly don't see what he can do for the future

Nothing, really. It's about this season and the fact we don't have a lot of money to add high quality players. Next offseason, with the cap exploding, the Spurs should have better options to find a suitable replacement.

TheGoldStandard
07-05-2015, 06:30 PM
Nothing, really. It's about this season and the fact we don't have a lot of money to add high quality players. Next offseason, with the cap exploding, the Spurs should have better options to find a suitable replacement.

I can see a final run at a title but costing a joseph who's 23 and a good defender and full of potential on what would be a cheap deal is rough

ElNono
07-05-2015, 06:33 PM
I can see a final run at a title but costing a joseph who's 23 and a good defender and full of potential on what would be a cheap deal is rough

Cojo would cost more and is not a playmaker... I like him, but he's borderline talent, IMO...

Reck
07-05-2015, 06:39 PM
Nope.

I love Manu. Have always been a fan and will always be but that doesn't blind me to his shortcomings which have become pretty bad as of the last few years.

The Manu of today doesn't even come close to the early years. At least then you could deal with his shitty turn overs and questionable passes but now he's just constantly making terrible decisions that really costs the Spurs badly.

It's time to hang it up.

Clipper Nation
07-05-2015, 06:45 PM
Meowwwwwwww

Pound the rock
07-05-2015, 07:01 PM
An emphatic yes!

Reck
07-05-2015, 07:11 PM
Are the same people that are vehemently saying yes, the same ones who make dumb threads about him needing to retire when he costs them games and championships? :lol

ElNono
07-05-2015, 07:41 PM
The starting PG situation concerns me way more than Manu's 20 min role at this point, tbh...

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 07:57 PM
Hell naw,,,,more of a liability than an asset at this point. Cost us the title just two years ago against Miami. He may average more turnovers than points per game if he returns,,,,

TheGreatYacht
07-05-2015, 08:15 PM
Hell naw,,,,more of a liability than an asset at this point. Cost us the title just two years ago against Miami. He may average more turnovers than points per game if he returns,,,,

Splits
07-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Prior to the LMA signing, I was in the "no" camp. Given our cap situation, he's a must-have. Just hope he takes the minimum and leaves the RE for a West or similar piece.

daledondale
07-05-2015, 08:31 PM
The starting PG situation concerns me way more than Manu's 20 min role at this point, tbh...

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 08:47 PM
Hell naw,,,,more of a liability than an asset at this point. Cost us the title just two years ago against Miami. He may average more turnovers than points per game if he returns,,,,

And dug the Spurs from 16 down in Game 5 of the Finals one year ago.

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 08:48 PM
I would fucking love to have Manu back, just for that occasional turn back the clock game you know he'll have every once in a while.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 08:52 PM
And dug the Spurs from 16 down in Game 5 of the Finals one year ago.


We had that series already won by then,,,dude showed up with fat lady already singing,,

Spur-Addict
07-05-2015, 08:56 PM
Meow Nigga is a meow turnover waiting to meow happen on every play. But meow there isn't anything on the market better meow that we can afford meow so we need him.































Meow

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 08:57 PM
We had that series already won by then,,,dude showed up with fat lady already singing,,

Really? They had the series won when they were down 16?

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Really? They had the series won when they were down 16?

We were up 3-1 going into game 5,,,series was over,,,,

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:04 PM
We were up 3-1 going into game 5,,,series was over,,,,

Spurs were up 5 with 28.2 seconds left too, series was over.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:07 PM
Spurs were up 5 with 28.2 seconds left too, series was over.


And we would have been up more without Manu's turnovers and had a 6th banner now,,,

Arcadian
07-05-2015, 09:09 PM
Yes because if we don't have him, there will be several games we lose when people wil say, "If we had Manu, we'd have won that game." I don't want to hear that shit all year.

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:10 PM
And we would have been up more without Manu's turnovers and had a 6th banner now,,,

Hey man, what color were the seats overhanging the upper deck behind each basket at Hemisfair?

Dex
07-05-2015, 09:11 PM
Bring the boys back home! #OneMoreRun

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:12 PM
Manu had 8 turnovers in game 6 in 2013 and we were still up by 5 and a chance to win. Spurs did everything they could to win the title and cover his sorry ass,,,,8 turnovers!!!!

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:12 PM
Manu had 8 turnovers in game 6 in 2013 and we were still up by 5 and a chance to win. Spurs did everything they could to win the title and cover his sorry ass,,,,8 turnovers!!!!

Hey man, what color were the seats overhanging the upper deck behind each basket at Hemisfair?

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:16 PM
Hey man, what color were the seats overhanging the upper deck behind each basket at Hemisfair?


If I answer correctly,,,what do I get? You gotta put something into the middle also,,,,

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:17 PM
If I answer correctly,,,what do I get? You gotta put something into the middle also,,,,

They were orangish red, you should retire that username since you have never set foot in the place. Terrible seats BTW. :lol

MultiTroll
07-05-2015, 09:21 PM
And we would have been up more without Manu's turnovers and had a 6th banner now,,,
If Manu comes back, will we have a coach who will sit him when he is Turnobili?
No reason to think so.
Otherwise i think Manu should.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:23 PM
They were orangish red, you should retire that username since you have never set foot in the place. Terrible seats BTW. :lol

How much money you got?,,,,like I said you gotta put something in the middle. Watched Gervin and Gilmore there when you were a twinkle in your fathers eye,,,

myhc
07-05-2015, 09:25 PM
With COJO gone now, it's absolutely critical Manu comes back.

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:27 PM
How much money you got?,,,,like I said you gotta put something in the middle. Watched Gervin and Gilmore there when you were a twinkle in your fathers eye,,,

I used to talk to Gilmore before games, nice guy.

beirmeistr
07-05-2015, 09:29 PM
87% of the fans polled want him back. And I can see why-----greatest competitor in Spurs history, a leader, all time great, one of a kind. Manu Ginobili, come on down!

ElNono
07-05-2015, 09:34 PM
It really doesn't matter, as Pop already told him he expects him back... it's just a matter of Manu figuring out if he thinks his body will hold up and whether his heart is in it...

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:39 PM
It really doesn't matter, as Pop already told him he expects him back... it's just a matter of Manu figuring out if he thinks his body will hold up and whether his heart is in it...

So being a part of la raza, which way is Manu leaning? I thought I heard he was trying to work himself back into shape, almost sounds like he's trying to talk himself into coming back another year. If that's the case I'm doubtful he's back. :depressed

But I still have hope since he hasn't said anything and I figure he would have told Pop right away to go sign West if he was ready to retire.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:44 PM
I used to talk to Gilmore before games, nice guy.

Never met him but I did meet Coby Dietrick,,,hes a nice guy as well,,,I remember going to a Black Sabbath/Van Halen show at Hemisfair,,,Van Halen's debut album,,,no one ever heard of them,,,people booed when Ozzy and Sabbath took the stage and played a few songs because Halen was so raw, energetic, and good,,,1978

cd98
07-05-2015, 09:46 PM
Dude, Manu can play the 1, 2, or 3. That offers a lot of flexibility and extra depth. We absolutely need to sign him as we shift from an ultra deep, but even talented team to a highly talented, but less deep team. We desparately need his versality for 15 to 20 minutes a game.

ElNono
07-05-2015, 09:46 PM
So being a part of la raza, which way is Manu leaning? I thought I heard he was trying to work himself back into shape, almost sounds like he's trying to talk himself into coming back another year. If that's the case I'm doubtful he's back. :depressed

But I still have hope since he hasn't said anything and I figure he would have told Pop right away to go sign West if he was ready to retire.

Everything has been really quiet so far, tbh... his bro has been trolling a bit, but he comes off more like another fan that would like to see him play another year.

I suppose we'll know sooner rather than later, as I suspect the Spurs need to know by the 9th in which order to sign people...

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:48 PM
Never met him but I did meet Coby Dietrick,,,hes a nice guy as well,,,I remember going to a Black Sabbath/Van Halen show at Hemisfair,,,Van Halen's debut album,,,no one ever heard of them,,,people booed when Ozzy and Sabbath took the stage and played a few songs because Halen was so raw, energetic, and good,,,1978

It was cool in the Hemisfair days, the players were all down to shoot the shit before games. I was rebounding balls for Mark Olberding one time and he and my dad were talking, and Mark said he missed all the good Mexican pussy in San Antonio after being traded away. His teammate goes "Mark man, that's a kid there" and he says "It's ok, he likes good Mexican pussy too!" :lol

myhc
07-05-2015, 09:50 PM
Never met him but I did meet Coby Dietrick,,,hes a nice guy as well,,,I remember going to a Black Sabbath/Van Halen show at Hemisfair,,,Van Halen's debut album,,,no one ever heard of them,,,people booed when Ozzy and Sabbath took the stage and played a few songs because Halen was so raw, energetic, and good,,,1978

Damn, you saw Sabbath and Van Halen in their prime? fuck you.

rayray2k8
07-05-2015, 09:52 PM
Even at this his age, the spurs are in need of depth due to FA losses. Green is really the only SG the spurs have but they have to use him for spot mins though

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 09:53 PM
The best thing ever regarding Hemisfair Arena was when Pat Riley was on David Letterman back in the 80's as the Laker coach. Letterman asked him what was the worst arena to play in as opposing team,,,,you'd think he'd say Boston or New York's Madison Square garden but he says Hemisfair Arena. Letterman asks him why and he says because it feels like the fans are on top of you and the building is moving off its foundations when they make noise. I wish there was a youtube or something else of that interview.

baseline bum
07-05-2015, 09:54 PM
Even at this his age, the spurs are in need of depth due to FA losses. Green is really the only SG the spurs have but they have to use him for spot mins though

I think you're going to see a lot of Leonard at the SG this year to give Anderson some minutes. Man I hope they can land Manu and then get a ring chasing vet. Too bad Mike Miller is under contract, I would have loved to see the Spurs bring him in on a minimum deal.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 10:19 PM
Damn, you saw Sabbath and Van Halen in their prime? fuck you.

Rush was the best band I ever saw at Hemisfair,,,,unbelievable.

Nathan89
07-05-2015, 10:24 PM
Whoever said "no" is an idiot.

HemisfairArena
07-05-2015, 10:28 PM
Whoever said "no" is an idiot.

No an idiot is one who cant think for themselves and vote democrat or republican because its a troll war,,,,

sammy
07-05-2015, 11:41 PM
Definitely!

EIC
07-05-2015, 11:57 PM
No. Love Manu, but he is not helping on the court and him retiring would free up a lot of $ we could use right now.

BillMc
07-06-2015, 12:08 AM
No. Love Manu, but he is not helping on the court and him retiring would free up a lot of $ we could use right now.

His retiring would further exacerbate our new depth issue.

EIC
07-06-2015, 12:13 AM
His retiring would further exacerbate our new depth issue.

Yeah, I didn't see that CoJo was leaving before I opined. That said, there's still plenty of time left in the offseason.

Russo21
07-06-2015, 12:16 AM
For the first time in a long time, it looks like depth may be an issue for this squad. We definitely need Manu back for that reason and his leadership and veteran presence. He's still also good for a few buckets and still sets team mates up as well as anyone on the team. Even if he just plays 15mpg and has the occasional DNP-OLD I want him back. And besides, we need him on the bench to play 'cups' with Tim and Tony.

slick'81
07-06-2015, 12:17 AM
After Joseph leaving he better be back

houston spurs fan
07-06-2015, 12:21 AM
I look at my framed, signed autographed jersey in my office every day and think damn, please keep it going. Then I think to myself damn, I'm getting old too...

BatManu20
07-06-2015, 12:29 AM
We need Manu more now than we did the past 2 seasons imo. With our bench being so thin right now, it's imperative he's on the squad next season.

TMTTRIO
07-06-2015, 12:30 AM
Yes and no. Yes because I would hate to see him leave. No because he can't play like he used to anymore and all I saw last year was how tired and frustrated he looked out there. I want him to forget basketball and enjoy his life with his boys. We just need to find some other guys to come in for a few minutes and fill in for our starters.

timvp
07-06-2015, 12:40 AM
Ginobili retiring would be a huge loss. His playmaking alone makes him extremely valuable. And that's not even factoring his competitiveness or any of his other priceless intangibles.

james evans
07-06-2015, 12:42 AM
ginobli is done. I have no idea why people can't see this

Phenomanul
07-06-2015, 12:48 AM
ginobli is done. I have no idea why people can't see this

Maybe because he managed to lead the team in assists per minute... and 2nd in total assists... In other words, he's still a playmaker...

Mr Bones
07-06-2015, 12:52 AM
ginobli is done. I have no idea why people can't see this

Ginobili had a PER of 16.2 last year and one of the best +/- ratings on the team... is there a SG out there who's better and will sign for the minimum?

therealtruth
07-06-2015, 12:58 AM
As long as he promises to stop leaving his feet before making passes.

Manu-of-steel
07-06-2015, 02:31 AM
Uno mas, Manu!

james evans
07-06-2015, 02:42 AM
Maybe because he managed to lead the team in assists per minute... and 2nd in total assists... In other words, he's still a playmaker...
and still turning the ball over in the 4th at high rates. This guy is gonna be 45 years old 7 years from now and all of you will still be like, "one more year..."

kobyz
07-06-2015, 02:51 AM
Like i said, willing to accept him back Only as the fourth wing, not the third!

Biernutz
07-06-2015, 02:53 AM
If we can get 15 good min from him when it counts, I am good with that......

Mouth is Bleeding
07-06-2015, 03:04 AM
Good to see the poll come out so heavily in favor of Manu coming back. Some faith in this forum being restored!

There really aren't that many not wanting Manu back (or Manu haters) they're just very loud and obnoxious and are addicted to attention.

hooperflash
07-06-2015, 03:14 AM
After Joseph leaving he better be back

Yeah, before I was fine with any decision he makes.
Now I really want him back.

spurspokesman
07-06-2015, 07:30 AM
A 15mpg manu probably equals manu from a few seasons ago. I think there is still mini spurts of brilliance left in him and he covers so many holes as player. Makes to much sense

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-06-2015, 07:50 AM
Yes, as Manu would probably be the highest rated SG still available in FA at this point. Spurs just need to find someone to shoulder the load from him now that Beli is gone.

Brazil
07-06-2015, 07:59 AM
of course

100%duncan
07-06-2015, 08:17 AM
Only an idiot like my nigga hater wouldnt want manu next year tbh

Obstructed_View
07-06-2015, 09:18 AM
Simon

DAF86
07-06-2015, 12:35 PM
ginobli is done. I have no idea why people can't see this

15 to 20 mpg at the vet minum (or something around that area). What better player can you get for that role?

cd98
07-06-2015, 01:27 PM
Manu coming back. https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba

james evans
07-06-2015, 04:35 PM
with the addition of west, I don't mind ginobli coming back haha