Cory Joseph on his way to Toronto [Archive] - Page 2

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:11 AM

Nobody signs till the 9th. Splitter gets traded on condition that Tavares gets signed for 1.5m. Tavares signs but it isn't done until the 9th, just like Spitter's deal. Tavares contract gets traded to Spurs on the 9th in exchange for Splitter dump.That's not how it works. If Tavares signs any contract with the Hawks he can't be traded for months.

RD2191

07-06-2015, 09:12 AM

Chumpdumper is a...

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:13 AM

Chumpdumper is a......guy who knows Tavares can't be traded after signing an initial contract.

Though I believe it is 30 days for a draft pick, not several months.

RD2191

07-06-2015, 09:14 AM

...guy who knows Tavares can't be traded after signing an initial contract.
Yes, that's what I was going to say. :wakeup

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:18 AM

Yes, that's what I was going to say. :wakeupWhatever.

Stay angry.

RD2191

07-06-2015, 09:20 AM

Whatever.

Stay angry.
:wakeup

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 09:25 AM

...guy who knows Tavares can't be traded after signing an initial contract.

Is an initial contract different than the actual contract?

Aggie Hoopsfan

07-06-2015, 09:27 AM

That's not how it works. If Tavares signs any contract with the Hawks he can't be traded for months.

Chump, is it months, or 30 days? Thought it was 30 days for rookies, three months for all others.

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:32 AM

Chump, is it months, or 30 days? Thought it was 30 days for rookies, three months for all others.
Yeah, I edited it above. 30 days for a guy like Tavares.

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:32 AM

Is an initial contract different than the actual contract?Initial meaning first contract. It's an actual contract.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 09:37 AM

Initial meaning first contract. It's an actual contract.

So he signed his contract before the ninth?

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:40 AM

So he signed his contract before the ninth?Actually, he may have. I have to check the rules on signing draft picks. It should be considered a done deal regardless.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 09:48 AM

No, he has agreed to a sign a contract just like all the Spurs who have decided to come back. It's a done deal.

All indications seem as if The Hawks are keeping Tavares. It's a done deal like the Splitter deal. Done in all respects except the actual contract hasn't been signed.

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 09:53 AM

All indications seem as if The Hawks are keeping Tavares. It's a done deal like the Splitter deal. Done in all respects except the actual contract hasn't been signed.Since it looks like it's more than a second round tender deal, they'll have to wait til the moratorium is over.

There is no reason to think Tavares is going to be on any team other than the Hawks.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 10:08 AM

So, he won't be. But, he could.

EVAY

07-06-2015, 10:11 AM

Kawhi not having a backup = more KawhISOS :madrun

Ah fuck. Shoot Apolisoc now.

LOL!

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 10:11 AM

So, he won't be. But, he could.Not if he signs any contract with the Hawks,

At all.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 10:16 AM

Not if he signs any contract with the Hawks,

At all.

Right, but he hasn't signed a contract, so he could. And, even if the contract had been signed already, it has been whittled down to 30 days, not months. So, ceperez's unlikely scenario is just unlikely, not impossible. Got it.

polandprzem

07-06-2015, 10:17 AM

So we have only two ballhandlers on the team, TP and an old man Manu ...

This is a problem esp in todays basketball where GS made it a real problem for others

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 10:18 AM

So we have only two ballhandlers on the team, TP and an old man Manu ...

This is a problem esp in todays basketball where GS made it a real problem for others

Don't worry. There is a man on this in every thread. We have it covered!

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 10:19 AM

Right, but he hasn't signed a contract, so he could. And, even if the contract had been signed already, it has been whittled down to 30 days, not months. So, ceperez's unlikely scenario is just unlikely, not impossible. Got it.When he signs a contract with the Hawks, it will be quite impossible to include him in the Splitter trade.

EVAY

07-06-2015, 10:22 AM

Even if the Spurs could hypothetically match that, there's no way in hell I would do it. Joseph is a useful player but he's not that great of a fit on the Spurs. With the current offensive system, the PG has to be an offensive threat in order to force the defense to engage. When Joseph was on the court, defenses got away with "playing the play" when he had the ball and sagging off when he didn't.

Joseph is a great energy player who had gotten really good at finishing. But he's never going to be a pure outside shooter and he's sub par as far as playmaking goes.

But congrats to him. Another great selection by the FO in the draft. Well done.

Well said.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 10:27 AM

When he signs a contract with the Hawks, it will be quite impossible to include him in the Splitter trade.

If he signs, he won't be able to be traded to any team for 30 days.

ChumpDumper

07-06-2015, 11:05 AM

If he signs, he won't be able to be traded to any team for 30 days.I said that.

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 11:35 AM

Well, you said when. You said months. You said he couldn't be traded, implying he had already signed. After editing a post and being corrected about months vs. 30 days, and accepting "if" instead of when, everyone seems to be in agreement.

For someone that's a stickler for details, I am sure you appreciate those.

polandprzem

07-06-2015, 11:48 AM

Well it's not better to have nobody on the roster instead of Corey ...

littlecoyotecoin

07-06-2015, 11:49 AM

Well it's not better to have nobody on the roster instead of Corey ...

At least at that price. Congrats, and seeya later CJ.

Beaverfuzz

07-06-2015, 12:50 PM

CoJo, the new Nando DeColo for Toronto!

TD 21

07-06-2015, 04:07 PM

Baynes and Joseph might have gotten the two most surprising contracts this off season.

I know he's from the greater Toronto area and they've been looking for defenders, but I don't get why they gave him this much. It's difficult to imagine someone was going to pay him anything close to this, since he's more pure backup PG than third guard. Granted, with what they're paying him, I presume they view him as that. But they also now lack a go to scorer/creator off the bench and he's more caretaker than that.

Even though it was inevitable, he's a relatively big loss, if Parker can't stay healthy. Since Mills is essentially an SG on offense, he can't really start and whatever fringe player ends up being the third PG obviously won't be good enough to, either.

GSH

07-06-2015, 05:18 PM

Wow, the Spurs are so screwed after spending all that money on Aldridge. The only players they could get on their budget were Manu Ginobili and David West. I wish our FO would just listen to the resident Laker fan.

703 Spurz

07-06-2015, 06:20 PM

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.

Wishful thinking is a bitch huh?

LkrFan

07-06-2015, 06:38 PM

Wishful thinking is a bitch huh?CIA Pop saw my post then went out and signed West. Son of a bitch! :lmao

LkrFan

07-06-2015, 06:39 PM

GSH

07-06-2015, 07:34 PM

GFY :lol

:lol

Heh. It was a pretty weak-suck move, trying to piss on this year's roster, before the roster was even filled - and then claiming you just want to "talk hoops". You never really had much of a chance, even before Manu and West signed. After today, you're just going to have to hope someone gets injured.

Speaking of injuries.... :p:

Seriously, I'll give you credit for trying. I know you really do know basketball. Believe it or not, I probably give Kobe more credit than most people here, and it's a shame that he's probably going to leave the game this way. Not that I mind a few years' respite from worrying about the Lakers in the Western Conference.

You have to admit, this year's Spurs roster is looking pretty damned salty now.

LkrFan

07-06-2015, 07:39 PM

:lol

Heh. It was a pretty weak-suck move, trying to piss on this year's roster, before the roster was even filled - and then claiming you just want to "talk hoops". You never really had much of a chance, even before Manu and West signed. After today, you're just going to have to hope someone gets injured.

Speaking of injuries.... :p:

Seriously, I'll give you credit for trying. I know you really do know basketball. Believe it or not, I probably give Kobe more credit than most people here, and it's a shame that he's probably going to leave the game this way. Not that I mind a few years' respite from worrying about the Lakers in the Western Conference.

You have to admit, this year's Spurs roster is looking pretty damned salty now.

2004 Lakers
2012 Lakers

They BOTH were veteran stacked teams that were supposed to win. IJS :downspin:

GSH

07-06-2015, 07:52 PM

2004 Lakers
2012 Lakers

They BOTH were veteran stacked teams that were supposed to win. IJS :downspin:

I've thought about that many times in the last couple of days. Especially 2004, because the similarities are impossible to ignore. I've made several posts about getting the pieces to mesh - started a thread about it. (It got about 3 replies. :rolleyes) If I remember right, Malone was injured and the Pistons were probably a bad match-up. Personally, I think some of the personalities involved were a negative, no matter what they said to the press. The biggest difference on this roster, I hope, is that Aldridge and West, the two big FA signings, are relatively young. The older guys have played together for a long time, and Pop makes a point of resting them during the regular season.

This roster is good, but winning a title always takes some good fortune. Still, I like their chances with a good roster better than without.

And that was still a weak troll attempt.

Jwash_1986

07-26-2015, 11:22 AM

CoJo getting shouted out on new Drake record. The kid made it.

hooperflash

07-27-2015, 01:57 AM

CoJo getting shouted out on new Drake record. The kid made it.

Kickball too :tu
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MI21

07-27-2015, 02:18 AM

Kickball too :tu
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Playing soccer in Jordan XI Tuxedo's, what an odd decision.

HarlemHeat37

11-13-2015, 12:29 PM

lefty

11-13-2015, 12:30 PM

lol porker

dweaver99027

11-13-2015, 12:53 PM

Yeah, good pickup for the Raps. Him and Lowry when playing together are a very energetic backcourt, even if lacking in size.

dabom

11-13-2015, 01:05 PM

Always knew we were going to lose patty or cojo after that extension by porker

timtonymanu

11-13-2015, 01:13 PM

Patty/CoJo was a good PG duo when Parker was out, tbh.

SAGirl

11-13-2015, 02:02 PM

"He’s been a godsend for us with the second unit," Casey said. "He’s who we thought he was. He’s learning guys’ [tendencies], I think he’s so used to throwing it to [Tim Duncan] or [Manu] Ginobili and getting out of the way, he’s got a little bit more to do with our team."

Yeah, good pickup for the Raps. Him and Lowry when playing together are a very energetic backcourt, even if lacking in size.

Patty/CoJo was a good PG duo when Parker was out, tbh.
That was an element we kind of knew. Cojo played better without Manu. Manu needs the ball to be at his best, and so does Cojo. His aggressiveness got stifled if you had him spotted up bc that was not his game. The Spurs system was not tailored to him, he wasn't exactly the best fit and he merely played a limited role within it.

In another team, where they can (and probably need to) give him the ball or ask him to do more, he's been more aggressive and made more plays. It highlights an aspect of how much guys do need to play together to get a sense fir each other and Cojo was in and out with different guys and in different roles depending on who he played with.

I am happy for Cojo having a larger role and shining. Pop really wanted to keep him. It just wasn't possible and it was probably best for Cojo TBH. He's too good to depend for playing time on Tony and Patty having an off night.

HarlemHeat37

11-13-2015, 03:18 PM

SAGirl

11-13-2015, 04:19 PM

^^ Ya, many of us said that during the off-season..I wasn't even a Cojo fan, but it was evident that he was afraid to be himself when he was on the floor with Manu and Parker, for whatever reason(fear of messing up, probably)..

I just find it interesting that a coach echoed it, though, since I don't recall Pop acknowledging it..

Anderson will suffer from the same problem, unfortunately..
I agree. I thought he played very well with PG who can shoot like Patty and Cotton in the dleague, and he's good running Pnr with the big s and finding cutters, he's even set up Manu on cuts, but if you have him spotted up that is unfortunately not his game. He's hopefully working on the 3 though bc regardless of his ultimate destiny, with his size, length and passing ability, if he could should the 3 he will stick in the league even if it's on another team, like Cojo.

Manu is about to retire though and he will need help even if he doesn't. Cojos situation was different bc he wasn't going to bump Patty and Tony is not close to retiring.

DrunkTXLabrat

11-14-2015, 08:03 PM

i think it was really wasteful to let Cojo walk in free agency. The Spurs coulda got a 2nd rounder for him, at least.

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:43 PM

** BUMP :toast **

Cory Joseph = Conference Finals
Sp*rs, not so much :downspin:

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:44 PM

lol lakerfan

:lol @ ChumpDumper

:hat

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:45 PM

:lol lkrfan

:lol @ Mugen

:hat

K...

05-15-2016, 07:46 PM

** BUMP :toast **

Cory Joseph = Conference Finals
Sp*rs, not so much :downspin:

EASTERN CONF......plz don't make that mistake again. Even the lakers could make the playoffs out east

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:48 PM

Only an idiot would go from a no state income tax team to a mediocre team in Canada with all its taxes...and I don't care if you're from that socialist country or not. Expanding into Canada was one of the biggest mistakes of the NBA. I'm glad Vancouver folded.

He went to a team playing in the Conference Finals. CuJo = smart :)

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:50 PM

EASTERN CONF......plz don't make that mistake again. Even the lakers could make the playoffs out east

This is not a Laker thread. Stay on topic.

Enrique watching CuJo play. Did Pop 86 the wrong PG? :downspin:

Silver&Black

05-15-2016, 07:53 PM

:lol Humberto's team won like 17 games this year, and he's still talking junk.

Learn your place faggot.

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:54 PM

OMG. Congrats, CoJo :tu

He was pretty damn good in the regular season last year. His growth from a rookie was outstanding. He's a legit NBA player at this point.

I don't think this is a huge loss for the Spurs. Joseph got minutes last year because Parker was injured so much and Mills missed the first half of the season and came back rusty.

If Parker can bounce back and Mills can rebound to his previous level, CoJo would have racked up the DNP-CDs -- and he's too good for that.

Big picture: Aldridge for Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph is a no-brainer.

Not so sure about that son. LMA ruined y'all chemistry. How else do you explain 2 playoff losses at home after losing 1 all year? :downspin:

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 07:55 PM

:lol Humberto's team won like 17 games this year, and he's still talking junk.

Learn your place faggot. :cry

:lol

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 08:02 PM

You really can't put a price on knowing how to play behind a fat PG. Gonna be invaluable when he backs up Lowry next season tbh.

:lmao

HI-FI

05-15-2016, 08:04 PM

Always hated letting the better pg go. Props to CoJo though.

** BUMP :toast **

Cory Joseph = Conference Finals
Sp*rs, not so much :downspin:
You still think Luke Walton is the Phil Jackson/Steve Kerr hybrid you've been praying to veladoras for?

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 08:06 PM

2004 Lakers
2012 Lakers

They BOTH were veteran stacked teams that were supposed to win. IJS :downspin:

LkrFanstrodamus! BAAAAAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 08:07 PM

Always hated letting the better pg go. Props to CoJo though.

You still think Luke Walton is the Phil Jackson/Steve Kerr hybrid you've been praying to veladoras for?

I didn't pray for that son :lol

baseline bum

05-15-2016, 08:08 PM

EASTERN CONF......plz don't make that mistake again. Even the lakers could make the playoffs out east

No they couldn't :lol

baseline bum

05-15-2016, 08:08 PM

Always hated letting the better pg go. Props to CoJo though.

You still think Luke Walton is the Phil Jackson/Steve Kerr hybrid you've been praying to veladoras for?

That avatar :lmao

LkrFan

05-15-2016, 08:10 PM

No they couldn't :lol

:lol

HI-FI

05-15-2016, 08:12 PM

That avatar :lmao
:lol someone posted it on realgm after the loss, pop w/crying Jordan. Pretty good work from whoever did it.

Silver&Black

05-15-2016, 08:19 PM

:lol someone posted it on realgm after the loss, pop w/crying Jordan. Pretty good work from whoever did it.

It's perfect. 10/10. Props to the guy who made it.

Kikoluna

05-15-2016, 09:26 PM

We need him back. Asap. We can give the Kyle and a bag of chips

spurs10

05-15-2016, 09:32 PM

Go CJ! At least he's still playing!

SAGirl

05-15-2016, 09:40 PM