Cory Joseph on his way to Toronto

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

LMA signing costing SA some quality depth? Enrique might have to play big minutes.

[TheGreatYacht]

Splitter and end of the bench guys... We'll live.

How did Hibbert's physical go?

[Axegrinder]

Aint done yet

[ChumpDumper]

lol lakerfan

[Chinook]

Pretty annoyed that Toronto would play the situation like that. They clearly don't plan to give up an asset to the Spurs (otherwise, the withdrawal of the QO would be unnecessary). So the Spurs are letting Cory go for nothing. If Manu retires, it will be a pretty terrible sequence of events for the Spurs.

[GSH]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.

[LkrFan]

Splitter and end of the bench guys... We'll live.

How did Hibbert's physical go?

:lol

[Vito Corleone]

As long as we have Mills we will be Okay. Parker, Mills, Green and Manu make a pretty good backcourt. I'd like to see Parker average about 30 minutes a game and Manu about 20 with Mills and Green filling in for the rest. It does however mean we need someone to backup Leonard. Any Idea who we can get?

[baseline bum]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.

Williams is joining the LOLkers

[Mugen]

:lol lkrfan

[LkrFan]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.
Lou is a Laker. :)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.

Lou signed with the Lakers.

[Axegrinder]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.Lou gone isnt he?

[TheGreatYacht]

So Toronto is going to have Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, AND Cojo? Damn.
Williams signed with the Lakers today

[apalisoc_9]

Damn the Guard position is now even thinner..Who will even handle the ball next year...Parker for 35 minutes?

Please shoot me.

[ChumpDumper]

Damn the Guard position is now even thinner..Who will even handle the ball next year...Parker for 35 minutes?

Please shoot me.Do it yourself, player fan.

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiJCEB8_Beg
thanks for that, we needed it. good luck.

[GSH]

Williams is joining the LOLkers

Makes sense then. Good pickup for Toronto. I hope CoJo makes them bleed on the contract.


Edit: LOL... everybody knew about Williams but me?

[LkrFan]

Aint done yet
Matter of time my son. :downspin:

[Spur-Addict]

So excited to talk weak smack about our 3rd string PG that you didn't even notice this thread already exists and is multiple pages deep. Sad times in L.A, I can't even laugh at you.

[myhc]

Didn't LouWilliams sign with the Lakers?

Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year.

Hibbert/Sacre
Bass/Randle
Kobe
Lou williams/Nick Young
Clarkson/Russell

[TheGreatYacht]

Damn the Guard position is now even thinner..Who will even handle the ball next year...Parker for 35 minutes?

Please shoot me.

Do it yourself, player fan.

[baseline bum]

Sucks that CoJo probably isn't getting paid a lot with Toronto blowing $15 million om Carroll and $7 million on Biyombo already.

[ChumpDumper]

The biggest news for lakerfan this summer is that the Spurs 3rd point guard is leaving the team.

[LkrFan]

Damn the Guard position is now even thinner..Who will even handle the ball next year...Parker for 35 minutes?

Please shoot me.

:lol at Enrique playing 35mpg. This ain't 2004 hommie! :lol

[baseline bum]

Didn't LouWilliams sign with the Lakers?

Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year.

Hibbert/Sacre
Bass/Randle
Kobe
Lou williams/Nick Young
Clarkson/Russell

Looks like about a 35 win team

[ElNono]

Damn the Guard position is now even thinner..Who will even handle the ball next year...Parker for 35 minutes?

Please shoot me.

Patty?

[south side spur]

Has Wojnarowski tweeted anything regarding Cory?

[GSH]

Didn't LouWilliams sign with the Lakers?

Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year.

Hibbert/Sacre
Bass/Randle
Kobe
Lou williams/Nick Young
Clarkson/Russell


Looks like about a 35 win team


That's if the old Roy Hibbert makes a comeback. If it's the Hibbert of the last couple of seasons, they'll be getting a lot of Ping-Pong balls.

[LkrFan]

So excited to talk weak smack about our 3rd string PG that you didn't even notice this thread already exists and is multiple pages deep. Sad times in L.A, I can't even laugh at you.

You lose depth. Patty is somewhat injury prone. Enrique will have to play big minutes more often than not. None of that DNP crap CIA Pop been pulling lately with your guard rotation. That Dude gone too.

[TheGreatYacht]

As long as we have Mills we will be Okay. Parker, Mills, Green and Manu make a pretty good backcourt. I'd like to see Parker average about 30 minutes a game and Manu about 20 with Mills and Green filling in for the rest. It does however mean we need someone to backup Leonard. Any Idea who we can get?
Kawhi not having a backup = more KawhISOS :madrun

Ah fuck. Shoot Apolisoc now.

[ducks]

Lol lma kicked him out of country

[baseline bum]

That's if the old Roy Hibbert makes a comeback. If it's the Hibbert of the last couple of seasons, they'll be getting a lot of Ping-Pong balls.

That Hibbert is never coming back. I'm basing the 35 wins mostly on Randle, I think he's going to be a really nice player.

[LkrFan]

Patty?

Injury prone.

[Axegrinder]

Matter of time my son. :downspin:Referring to not being done with signings..try to keep up

[Uriel]

Pretty annoyed that Toronto would play the situation like that. They clearly don't plan to give up an asset to the Spurs (otherwise, the withdrawal of the QO would be unnecessary). So the Spurs are letting Cory go for nothing. If Manu retires, it will be a pretty terrible sequence of events for the Spurs.
Don't you think it's more likely that CoJo's representatives reached out to the Spurs and asked them to withdraw the QO after Toronto made an offer they couldn't refuse?

[loveforthegame]

Best of luck to Joseph. Hopefully he gets the playing time he wants.

[Spur-Addict]

You lose depth. Patty is somewhat injury prone. Enrique will have to play big minutes more often than not. None of that DNP crap CIA Pop been pulling lately with your guard rotation. That Dude gone too.

You got me, fuck man :cry

[Sean Cagney]

Pretty annoyed that Toronto would play the situation like that. They clearly don't plan to give up an asset to the Spurs (otherwise, the withdrawal of the QO would be unnecessary). So the Spurs are letting Cory go for nothing. If Manu retires, it will be a pretty terrible sequence of events for the Spurs.

After the very strong start to FA signing Green and Leonard up plus Aldridge, the second half of FA would suck losing their depth. My guess? They fill those slots with capable guys and have a strong team. I hope anyways.

[cd98]

After the very strong start to FA signing Green and Leonard up plus Aldridge, the second half of FA would suck losing their depth. My guess? They fill those slots with capable guys and have a strong team. I hope anyways.

Losing depth is the payoff for maxing out an all star free agent.

[ElNono]

Injury prone.

He played more games than Kobe in the last 2 years... :downspin:

[apalisoc_9]

Patty?

and if one gets injured?

[ElNono]

and if one gets injured?

Manu (if he comes back)

[LkrFan]

He played more games than Kobe in the last 2 years... :downspin:

:lol

[ducks]

then you get someone
what happens if leonard gets injured or pick eye again

[Mugen]

:lol LkrFan is good people but he's literally one of the stupidest people on this board when it comes to basketball analysis/takes....and this board has ducks posting on the regular....

Like I said, good dude but he's probably spinning that Hibbert + Lou Williams is better than signing LaMarcus at this point tbh.......:downspin:

[Raven]

patty receiving a price for having an awful season... yaaaay

[Chinook]

Don't you think it's more likely that CoJo's representatives reached out to the Spurs and asked them to withdraw the QO after Toronto made an offer they couldn't refuse?

I agree with part of that. I think they withdrew the offer because Joseph asked for it, just like Neal did two years ago. But the deal itself wasn't all that great, which is why the Raptors didn't engage the Spurs in a sign-and-trade. They only wanted Cory if they could get him for free. That's what I was annoyed at.

I wonder how much Joseph's even going to play for them, given that they have their starter and just drafted a PG who isn't a great fit next to Cory. Save for the fact that it's his home town, I don't think it's a better position for him.

[GSH]

Don't you think it's more likely that CoJo's representatives reached out to the Spurs and asked them to withdraw the QO after Toronto made an offer they couldn't refuse?

Well, when you put it like that....

Spurs saw they couldn't keep him anyway? They'd do that. I still hope you're right about the offer.

[LkrFan]

:lol LkrFan is good people but he's literally one of the stupidest people on this board when it comes to basketball analysis/takes....and this board has ducks posting on the regular....

Like I said, good dude but he's probably spinning that Hibbert + Lou Williams is better than signing LaMarcus at this point tbh.......:downspin:

Thanks classh:lolle?

[Chinook]

After the very strong start to FA signing Green and Leonard up plus Aldridge, the second half of FA would suck losing their depth. My guess? They fill those slots with capable guys and have a strong team. I hope anyways.

I hope so, too. But the Spurs have a ton of work to do. They better hope they can lure over some decent Euros.

[Mugen]

Thanks classh:lolle?

Anytime, gustavo. I got your back ese.

[Spur-Addict]

I agree with part of that. I think they withdrew the offer because Joseph asked for it, just like Neal did two years ago. But the deal itself wasn't all that great, which is why the Raptors didn't engage the Spurs in a sign-and-trade. They only wanted Cory if they could get him for free. That's what I was annoyed at.

I wonder how much Joseph's even going to play for them, given that they have their starter and just drafted a PG who isn't a great fit next to Cory. Save for the fact that it's his home town, I don't think it's a better position for him.

But he's young, that's the saving grace until it isn't.

[CaptainLate]

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Only an idiot would go from a no state income tax team to a mediocre team in Canada with all its taxes...and I don't care if you're from that socialist country or not. Expanding into Canada was one of the biggest mistakes of the NBA. I'm glad Vancouver folded.

[LkrFan]

Anytime, gustavo. I got your back ese.:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

It hurts but he's replaceable

[baseline bum]

:lol LkrFan is good people but he's literally one of the stupidest people on this board when it comes to basketball analysis/takes....and this board has ducks posting on the regular....

Like I said, good dude but he's probably spinning that Hibbert + Lou Williams is better than signing LaMarcus at this point tbh.......:downspin:

Come on man, he's new to basketball. Two years ago in Culiacan the only sport he had seen was faggots kicking severed heads in between a couple of tires and then screaming GOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[baseline bum]

I hope so, too. But the Spurs have a ton of work to do. They better hope they can lure over some decent Euros.

Aren't they stuck with LJC this year?

[Mugen]

:lol

[tholdren]

Meh. It will be fine. They knew what they had to do this year and did it. Pop said it would look different. It does. Spurs kept the best pieces and will replace the others. Business as usual.

[ChumpDumper]

Only an idiot would go from a no state income tax team to a mediocre team in Canada with all its taxes...and I don't care if you're from that socialist country or not. Expanding into Canada was one of the biggest mistakes of the NBA. I'm glad Vancouver folded.Don't take it personally, dude.

[Mr. Body]

Only an idiot would go from a no state income tax team to a mediocre team in Canada with all its taxes...and I don't care if you're from that socialist country or not. Expanding into Canada was one of the biggest mistakes of the NBA. I'm glad Vancouver folded.

Toronto is a way better city than any of the ones in Texas.

[Chinook]

Aren't they stuck with LJC this year?

Yes, but I mean Euro vets, not stashed prospects.

[HI-FI]

:lol LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) is good people but he's literally one of the stupidest people on this board when it comes to basketball analysis/takes....and this board has ducks (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13) posting on the regular....

Like I said, good dude but he's probably spinning that Hibbert + Lou Williams is better than signing LaMarcus at this point tbh.......:downspin:
this. LkrFan should be called SprFan since he's obsessed with us. Word is that his mom was a mule while pregnant with him, hence the retardation. But he's a good person overall.

[Darkwaters]

Didn't LouWilliams sign with the Lakers?

Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year.

Hibbert/Sacre
Bass/Randle
Kobe
Lou williams/Nick Young
Clarkson/Russell

Heres hoping Kobe just keeps shooting them into the lottery.

[LkrFan]

this. LkrFan should be called SprFan since he's obsessed with us. Word is that his mom was a mule while pregnant with him, hence the retardation. But he's a good person overall.

Mamma jokes? :lol

[CaptainLate]

Didn't Lou Williams sign with the Lakers?

Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year.

Apparently, you haven't read https://hawksterreport.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/the-lakers-are-dead-an-obituary/
This guy tore Mgmt a new a/h and saying it'll be years before they are relevant again.

[LkrFan]

Come on man, he's new to basketball. Two years ago in Culiacan the only sport he had seen was faggots kicking severed heads in between a couple of tires and then screaming GOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

:lol

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

So long Cory, thanks for throwing it down in Ibaka's grill...

[Sean Cagney]

Losing depth is the payoff for maxing out an all star free agent.

Thats true, remember in 2011 some were laughing at the Heat and their depth chart saying they will have no bench when they signed Bron and Bosh? The Spurs are looking identical now around their stars, thin bench that needs some filling in spots. I am glad they still have Patty and Diaw.
Heres hoping Kobe just keeps shooting them into the lottery.

Oh he will, either that he will miss the year again.

[ducks]

if manu comes back they will be ok he knows the system
also anderson knows the system more one year in austin they run the same o

[Nathan89]

Great... More dependent on the weakest link of the team.

[ducks]

Follow

Cory JosephVerified account
‏@Cory_Joe
#WeTheNorth here I come!!!!!

[Raven]

Only an idiot would go from a no state income tax team to a mediocre team in Canada with all its taxes...and I don't care if you're from that socialist country or not. Expanding into Canada was one of the biggest mistakes of the NBA. I'm glad Vancouver folded.

yeah, taking the min without taxes works much better than a legit contract with taxes lol

[Clipper Nation]

Porker running off good players with his cancerous contract.

[ducks]

leonard could have taken less green did

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Losing depth is the payoff for maxing out an all star free agent.

[Darius Bieber]

Damn Spurs bench getting thinner and thinner. Spurs have lost 4 players this offseason so far and gained one.

[Mugen]

4yr/30mil for Cory.....holy fuck that Spurs price bump is real :lol

[BatManu20]

Whoa :wow


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[cd98]

Porker running off good players with his cancerous contract.

Tony didn't even get maxed. He's taken plenty of paycuts. Unfortunately, most players want to get paid according to the market and not take huge paycuts to satisfy fans.

[Sean Cagney]

leonard could have taken less green did

Leonard is a max player man, why would he take less? Dude is getting his first big contract and he is worth it. Danny took a little less than some did out there and that is great, but honestly you think Leonard should have taken less just because Danny did? It's a business, if you get offered a max you take it and get paid. Tim is taking a lot less now and he is a rare species in this game but he even had a max in his career and probably has enough and then some to feed several families for life so he can afford to do that now.


Speaking of taking less, someone else who lost a step or two and is getting paid a ton could have taken less as well but he did not (No names).

[Mr. Body]

People paying Spurs 3rd stringers shitloads of money.

[cd98]

4yr/30mil for Cory.....holy fuck that Spurs price bump is real :lol

If those are the numbers, he hit paydirt. Not sure there was another team in the NBA that would have offered him near that much. And I'm sure that is several times higher than the Spurs would have been willing to pay, even if they didn't sign LMA.

[Rito3d30]

Knew that he would get paid
but 4yr/30m?
Whoa
hometown hero effect?

[Sean Cagney]

People paying Spurs 3rd stringers shitloads of money.

The title teams role players always get overrated it seems. I remember the Bulls 90's team, you knew the scrubs on that team and they got overrated from being on the team to begin with, same as some LA players you remembers names that weren't really that good but got over hyped from being on a title team. The Spurs name along raises the price on role players it seems.

[TXstbobcat]

He was as good as gone. No way the Spurs would have matched that $30 million offer.

[cd98]

Leonard is a max player man, why would he take less? Dude is getting his first big contract and he is worth it. Danny took a little less than some did out there and that is great, but honestly you think Leonard should have taken less just because Danny did? It's a business, if you get offered a max you take it and get paid. Tim is taking a lot less now and he is a rare species in this game but he even had a max in his career and probably has enough and then some to feed several families for life so he can afford to do that now.


Speaking of taking less, someone else who lost a step or two and is getting paid a ton could have taken less as well but he did not (No names).

I think players should be paid what they are worth. But you can't criticize Parker bc he's taken paycuts too.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Spurs weren't going to match those high priced contracts for bench players anyway, at least we got Aldridge in the process of the team losing their depth for the time being...

[ChumpDumper]

Whoa :wow


617894361746014208Damn, was there even anyone else to bid against at this point?

[HI-FI]

Fuck. Well best of luck to CoJo, I wish we could've held onto him instead of overpaying Enrique.

[GSH]

4yr/30mil for Cory.....holy fuck that Spurs price bump is real :lol


Holy shit! Well, Cory got paid. I guess he would have been a bargain at the QO. Shame the Spurs couldn't keep him, but Aldridge was a no-brainer. 4/30, seriously? Maybe a few of the remaining FA's should take notice. Come to SA, get a ring and a pay-day in a couple.

[timvp]

Whoa :wow


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OMG. Congrats, CoJo :tu



He was pretty damn good in the regular season last year. His growth from a rookie was outstanding. He's a legit NBA player at this point.

I don't think this is a huge loss for the Spurs. Joseph got minutes last year because Parker was injured so much and Mills missed the first half of the season and came back rusty.

If Parker can bounce back and Mills can rebound to his previous level, CoJo would have racked up the DNP-CDs -- and he's too good for that.

Big picture: Aldridge for Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph is a no-brainer.

[TXstbobcat]

Damn, Marco, Cojo, and Baynes all made a fucking killing in free agency!!!

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Don't you think it's more likely that CoJo's representatives reached out to the Spurs and asked them to withdraw the QO after Toronto made an offer they couldn't refuse?

After seeing that Cory got $30 million, this has to be what happened...

[LkrFan]

617894361746014208

#SAUCES

[cd98]

OMG. Congrats, CoJo :tu



He was pretty damn good in the regular season last year. His growth from a rookie was outstanding. He's a legit NBA player at this point.

I don't think this is a huge loss for the Spurs. Joseph got minutes last year because Parker was injured so much and Mills missed the first half of the season and came back rusty.

If Parker can bounce back and Mills can rebound to his previous level, CoJo would have racked up the DNP-CDs -- and he's too good for that.

Big picture: Aldridge for Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph is a no-brainer.

True and Alridgde signing will probably open the door for some good vets on a minimum deal that are chasing rings.

[GSH]

OMG. Congrats, CoJo :tu



He was pretty damn good in the regular season last year. His growth from a rookie was outstanding. He's a legit NBA player at this point.

I don't think this is a huge loss for the Spurs. Joseph got minutes last year because Parker was injured so much and Mills missed the first half of the season and came back rusty.

If Parker can bounce back and Mills can rebound to his previous level, CoJo would have racked up the DNP-CDs -- and he's too good for that.

Big picture: Aldridge for Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph is a no-brainer.


He was (would have been) good insurance, at the QO. He held down the fort nicely when Tony was down. I guess you can't have that kind of insurance at every position, and winning it all always depends on some breaks in staying healthy.

The Spurs put a lot of work into him, and he made the best of it.

[CaptainLate]

Toronto is a way better city than any of the ones in Texas.

Sure, if you like "Socialism"...go watch the movie "Bullworth". Texas may soon have no federal income taxes, too.
P.S. I'm not taking it personally. What can I say but repeat what Forrest Gump said: "Stupid is...".

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

True and Alridgde signing will probably open the door for some good vets on a minimum deal that are chasing rings.

Starting with David West hopefully...

[LkrFan]

Damn, Marco, Cojo, and Baynes all made a fucking killing in free agency!!!

Small Market team with damn near 3 max contracts. TD and Manu will have to take major paycuts too. Will Manu come back for 25 cents on the dollar? :downspin:

[Raven]

good deal for toronto. too bad we lost him.. we'll need to get really creative now.

[Mr. Body]

Sure, if you like "Socialism"...go watch the movie "Bullworth". Texas may soon have no federal income taxes, too.
P.S. I'm not taking it personally. What can I say but repeat what Forrest Gump said: "Stupid is...".

I see, you get your politics from movies...

[BatManu20]

OMG. Congrats, CoJo :tu



He was pretty damn good in the regular season last year. His growth from a rookie was outstanding. He's a legit NBA player at this point.

I don't think this is a huge loss for the Spurs. Joseph got minutes last year because Parker was injured so much and Mills missed the first half of the season and came back rusty.

If Parker can bounce back and Mills can rebound to his previous level, CoJo would have racked up the DNP-CDs -- and he's too good for that.

Big picture: Aldridge for Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph is a no-brainer.

Absolutely :tu

And hopefully D-West, too.

[GSH]

Small Market team with damn near 3 max contracts. TD and Manu will have to take major paycuts too. Will Manu come back for 25 cents on the dollar? :downspin:


Maybe the lure of playing with Kobe will make him sign with the Lakers? :lol

[BatManu20]

617899407791529985

[ducks]

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 22m22 minutes ago
Joseph will have a player option in 4th year

[Sean Cagney]

Fuck. Well best of luck to CoJo, I wish we could've held onto him instead of overpaying Enrique.

He is not a starting PG in this league IMO, good backup though and now overpaid himself.

[BatManu20]

:cry

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[TheGoldStandard]

It'll be interesting to see what he does in Toronto

[Mugen]

:lol Cory needs to pay half that to Porky for eating bon bons all of last summer tbh

[Mr. Body]

Getting paid a lot more than Patty now.

[baseline bum]

Glad to see CoJo got such a nice contract and he'll get tons of minutes there with Lou Williams leaving.

[LkrFan]

617899407791529985

Y'all lost 2 of your best defensive bigs and guard drpth. LMA better learn how to defend real quick.

[BatManu20]

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[timvp]

Even if the Spurs could hypothetically match that, there's no way in hell I would do it. Joseph is a useful player but he's not that great of a fit on the Spurs. With the current offensive system, the PG has to be an offensive threat in order to force the defense to engage. When Joseph was on the court, defenses got away with "playing the play" when he had the ball and sagging off when he didn't.

Joseph is a great energy player who had gotten really good at finishing. But he's never going to be a pure outside shooter and he's sub par as far as playmaking goes.

But congrats to him. Another great selection by the FO in the draft. Well done.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Spurs weren't going to pay those contracts even if Aldridge wasn't coming here since Baynes, Bellineli, and Joseph are being overpaid...

[ducks]

Getting paid a lot more than Patty now.

no surgery for patty patty would have gotten that contract

[LkrFan]

:lol Cory needs to pay half that to Porky for eating bon bons all of last summer tbh
And Bluebell ice cream from HEB. :lol

[spurraider21]

Whoa :wow


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:lmao go get that money CoJo

[BatManu20]

617900756826517504

[Mr. Body]

"Sign with us. You'll make a boatload of cash when you leave."

[GSH]

Y'all lost 2 of your best defensive bigs and guard drpth. LMA better learn how to defend real quick.


So why is it you're the only one who sounds desperate? And if West decides that ringing is what's most important, this will be one of the best off-seasons ever.

I wonder what the chances are of Kobe learning how to be young and healthy?

[Jdspur20]

The biggest news for lakerfan this summer is that the Spurs 3rd point guard is leaving the team.

[cd98]

no surgery for patty patty would have gotten that contract

Agreed. Spurs took advantage of that injury. But for it, Patty probably goes elsewhere last year.

[Mr. Body]

no surgery for patty patty would have gotten that contract

Um, no. Still under contract. This cap blowing up May cause waves with players on old contracts.

[LkrFan]

So why is it you're the only one who sounds desperate? And if West decides that ringing is what's most important, this will be one of the best off-seasons ever.

I wonder what the chances are of Kobe learning how to be young and healthy?

Desperate? I'm just talking hoops. What does Kobe have to do with this thread?

[ducks]

spurs resigned him when he had surgery
he was a fa then other teams wanted to make sure he was healthy spurs signed him anyhow as a thank you

[Taking it to the Hole]

As much as I hate to see COJO go, I am happy he is getting a well deserved payday. I will never forget the game he had against the Thunder when he was really the only player in the game that was trying to win that game. Unfortunately, going to Toronto pretty much assures him of never going to playoffs every again. He will be the starting PG on a bad team and I just hate to see a player of his talents go to an organization that will not use him to his full potential. The Spurs put so much time in developing him, now it sucks to see another organization squander that hard work.

[keepinitwill]

I think the contracts that guys like Cojo, Baynes, and Marco are getting are a great recruiting tool. It shows players what being a part of this organization can do to your future value. There is no need to panic. The Spurs will round out the roster just fine. It's not like this stuff is coming is a suprise to the FO.

[LkrFan]

617900756826517504

I don't forecast many bogus DNPs for Duncan either. No Baynes. No Splitter. LMA was adamant that will NOT play center.

[baseline bum]

"Sign with us. You'll make a boatload of cash when you leave."

:lol

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Cory, Belinelli, and Baynes got their rings...now they are getting their money...can't really fault them for that...

[Mugen]

I don't forecast many bogus DNPs for Duncan either. No Baynes. No Splitter. LMA was adamant that will NOT play center.

Yeah it's gonna be impossible to replace Baynes. :lmao

[GSH]

Desperate? I'm just talking hoops. What does Kobe have to do with this thread?


LOL - you're the one living on another team's message board. Just saying - I like LMA on defense a lot more than I like Kobe's chance of finishing the season. Or does the cross-pollination of comments only work one way? I guess I wouldn't want to be talking about the Lakers right now, either.

[ChumpDumper]

Y'all lost 2 of your best defensive bigs and guard drpth. LMA better learn how to defend real quick.You think Baynes was one of the Spurs' best defenders?

lol now we know you're just trolling. No one who actually watched the Spurs would ever say that.

[LkrFan]

Yeah it's gonna be impossible to replace Baynes. :lmao

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.

[ducks]

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.

spurs play draw at center and will go small
and also will go get west

[baseline bum]

Don't you think it's more likely that CoJo's representatives reached out to the Spurs and asked them to withdraw the QO after Toronto made an offer they couldn't refuse?

Pretty much. Sounds like the Spurs renounced the QO a couple of hours before Lou Williams to LA2 went public, and CoJo was their backup plan in Toronto.

[LkrFan]

LOL - you're the one living on another team's message board. Just saying - I like LMA on defense a lot more than I like Kobe's chance of finishing the season. Or does the cross-pollination of comments only work one way? I guess I wouldn't want to be talking about the Lakers right now, either.

Kobe's in your head. Hasn't played in like 2 yesrs yet you still bring him up. It's cool. Carry on playa.

[Dverde]

Good for cojo on that contract. You got the ring, now get the dollarss

[Mugen]

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.

You didn't comprende the originale post mi amigo :lol

[ChumpDumper]

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.Are you saying the Spurs will sign no more players and this is the roster they are playing the entire season with?

[LkrFan]

spurs play draw at center and will go small
and also will go get west

West at center, defensively? :lmao

[ducks]

got to get it past leonard and green
leonard steals the ball and dunks alot

[LkrFan]

You didn't comprende the originale post mi amigo :lol

Baynes is a bum. So was Splitter. But, they were serviceable enough for you guys to use to rest Duncan and keep him fresh for the playoffs. Those 2 luxuries are now gone.

[Mugen]

I'm not sure why our resident illegal decided to venture upstairs and "talk hoops" explaining to Spurfan why you can't replace an Ar:loln Baynes.......

I 100% guarantee dis nigga has never watched D'Angelo or Julius play a single game before the draft but i'm sure he's touting them as the next great players already....

Like I said... good guy....but one of the stupidest bball minds on the site with the most generic basketball takes :lol

[Mr. Body]

West at center, defensively? :lmao

You can crow now that you have big, bad Hibbert on your squad.

[LkrFan]

I'm not sure why our resident illegal decided to venture upstairs and "talk hoops" explaining to Spurfan why you can't replace an Ar:loln Baynes.......

I 100% guarantee dis nigga has never watched D'Angelo or Julius play a single game before the draft but i'm sure he's touting them as the next great players already....

Like I said... good guy....but one of the stupidest bball minds on the site with the most generic basketball takes :lol
LINK to where I touted them as being great players?

[GSH]

Kobe's in your head. Hasn't played in like 2 yesrs yet you still bring him up. It's cool. Carry on playa.

Hahaha.... you ignorant bitch! Kobe plays every time LA has to write that $25 Million check. Of course he's worth talking about. Think of what your team could have done this offseason if they didn't have to pay him to NOT play. Again. Not to mention the last two years.


So, yeah, try to make a case that the Spurs shouldn't pay LMA less to play here than the Lakers pay Kobe not to play. Playa.

[Mugen]

lakersinthelotteryagain.com tbh

[Vic Petro]

With him gone, less likely Duncan has DNPs. Again, LMA said he ain't playing center. Thst means more minutes and more games for Duncan in his 19th year.

The Spurs can give Duncan 12 DNPs, start Cheryl Miller instead, and still win 55+ games.

[ChumpDumper]

Baynes is a bum. So was Splitter. But, they were serviceable enough for you guys to use to rest Duncan and keep him fresh for the playoffs. Those 2 luxuries are now gone.Bums are luxuries to lakerfan.

lol

[ChumpDumper]

LINK to where I touted them as being great players?:cry Luxury Bums :cry

[LkrFan]

Hahaha.... you ignorant bitch! Kobe plays every time LA has to write that $25 Million check. Of course he's worth talking about. Think of what your team could have done this offseason if they didn't have to pay him to NOT play. Again. Not to mention the last two years.


So, yeah, try to make a case that the Spurs shouldn't pay LMA less to play here than the Lakers pay Kobe not to play. Playa.

Maaaaaaaaad I see. :lol

[LkrFan]

The Spurs can give Duncan 12 DNPs, start Cheryl Miller instead, and still win 55+ games.

:lol That’s the spirit! :tu

[benfti]

Whoa :wow


617894361746014208

bloody hell, what would Patty be worth on the open market right now if thats what people paid for cojo?

[BatManu20]

Get that money, Cojo. That 2014 squad will always be remembered by Spurfan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJMl2LCUsAA3r_o.jpg

[Splits]

:lmao 4/30

Love CoJo but that's highway robbery.

[Splits]

bloody hell, what would Patty be worth on the open market right now if thats what people paid for cojo?

4/50 or something close to it

[Splits]

:lol That’s the spirit! :tu

Get your ass downstairs, Bautista

[NASpurs]

Nigga got paid :wow

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Baynes was an average defender, I've read several posts the past week that claim his defense will be a significant loss for the Spurs..not sure where that perception came from..

[Mugen]

You really can't put a price on knowing how to play behind a fat PG. Gonna be invaluable when he backs up Lowry next season tbh.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol Baynes was an average defender, I've read several posts the past week that claim his defense will be a significant loss for the Spurs..not sure where that perception came from..

Tbh his best skill on defense was roughing players up and hoping they would back off. If they went right back at him, he would go straight into foul trouble.

[benfti]

4/50 or something close to it Then having him at 3.5 for the next 2 years is a dam good deal for us.

[LkrFan]

Get your ass downstairs, Bautista:lmao

[cd021]

Didn't LouWilliams sign with the Lakers? Hate to be the one to say it but the Lakers won't be terrible next year. Hibbert/Sacre . Bass/Randle Kobe Lou williams/Nick Young Clarkson/RussellThird worst team in the west. [/QUOTE]

Minnesota should be better than that team

[HarlemHeat37]

You really can't put a price on knowing how to play behind a fat PG. Gonna be invaluable when he backs up Lowry next season tbh.

:lol..

[100%duncan]

Wow of all people giving shit about depth, it's Jaime :lol

Have fun with Roy and Kobe b :lol

[BatManu20]

Wonder if the spurs will show any interest in a 3rd string PG like Barbosa or if they'll just let Manu & Patty handle it (assuming Manu returns) and spend the money on another big & wing. I'd assume the latter.

[CaptainLate]

Whoa :wow


617894361746014208

It this is true, then good riddance CoJo...go back to socialist Canada.

[ChumpDumper]

It this is true, then good riddance CoJo...go back to socialist Canada.Which Canadian stole your girlfriend?

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ I'd go with the latter, tbh..might have to tweak the system, a little, though, as the team is going to be very frontcourt-reliant, but shouldn't be a problem..

As much as I've hated on Parker, this year, I have to assume that he's going to be a lot better than last year, just by working harder and having Aldridge to take attention from opposing defenses, too..should be sufficient for playmaking IMO..hopefully Kawhi continues to improve as a passer, too..

[peacemaker885]

Good news for Cojo! Good luck to him and pay is well deserved

[daslicer]

:lol Baynes was an average defender, I've read several posts the past week that claim his defense will be a significant loss for the Spurs..not sure where that perception came from..

I think most people who don't watch the spurs closely are deceived by Baynes physical appearance and think due to the fact that he's huge and built like a truck that he must be a great interior defender. Baynes biggest strength to me was his ability to set good picks and to get some good garbage buckets but outside of that he was not amazing.

[therealtruth]

I am sure having a ring helps in negotiations.

[Mugen]

The Spurs will definitely bring in a 3rd PG on the cheap tbh. probably the easiest position to fill in basketball.

[HI-FI]

Desperate? I'm just talking hoops. What does Kobe have to do with this thread?
You're getting desperate. Let's face it, when a rapist made you start rooting for the Lakers, you never thought you'd have to :downspin:for tanking tres years in a row.

[Spurs9]

If Cojo had ended up on any other team in the league he probably wouldn't even be in the league any more with the way the Spurs developed him. Crazy contract, but glad he's getting paid like that.

[HarlemHeat37]

I think most people who don't watch the spurs closely are deceived by Baynes physical appearance and think due to the fact that he's huge and built like a truck that he must be a great interior defender. Baynes biggest strength to me was his ability to set good picks and to get some good garbage buckets but outside of that he was not amazing.

I liked his offense and thought he developed well with the Spurs, but I viewed him as an offense-first player with his screen-setting and ability to finish well/make short jump shots..I've never viewed him as anything special on defense, at all..

[Clipper Nation]

I'm not sure why our resident illegal decided to venture upstairs and "talk hoops" explaining to Spurfan why you can't replace an Ar:loln Baynes.......

He's used to sneaking over the border where he's not wanted, tbh.

[LakerHater]

So Spurs withdrew the offer to bring back a Coach Pop favorite?

[ElNono]

You have to put things in perspective, tbh... when your frontcourt is Jordan Hill and Carlos Boozer, Baynes probably looks like the next Hakeem out there :lol

[ChumpDumper]

So Spurs withdrew the offer to bring back a Coach Pop favorite?They weren't going to match that offer, so why draw out the process. Withdrawing the offer is actually doing a solid for a former player and the Toronto FO.

Agents and executives remember this kind of thing.

Or are you talking about something else?

[timvp]

Baynes' best attribute on D is that he's a good flopper, tbh.

[LakerHater]

They weren't going to match that offer, so why draw out the process. Withdrawing the offer is actually doing a solid for a former player and the Toronto FO.

Agents and executives remember this kind of thing.

Or are you talking about something else?
617823035702276096

[baseline bum]

:lol Baynes was an average defender, I've read several posts the past week that claim his defense will be a significant loss for the Spurs..not sure where that perception came from..

From people who didn't watch the first two games of the first round?

[hsxvvd]

Beverly signed for 4yrs 25mil...

3rd string Cojo 4yr 30mil...

Belli, Baynes and Cojo... 69mil!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I really hope they fill the 3rd PG role with Nate Wolters. I'm not entirely sure why the dude is floating around in summer leagues, tbh. He showed good promise in Milwaukee and I thought other teams would've taken notice.

[ChumpDumper]

617823035702276096And?

That changes nothing I said.

"Some think"

Some were wrong.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ Joseph's ceiling is higher than Beverley's, tbh, and I'm not even a big fan of Cojo's..

[ChumpDumper]

I really hope they fill the 3rd PG role with Nate Wolters. I'm not entirely sure why the dude is floating around in summer leagues, tbh. He showed good promise in Milwaukee and I thought other teams would've taken notice.He's playing well so far in Orlando. Didn't light up the D-League as might be expected last season.

[Mugen]

What's dat nigga Nando up to?

[LakerHater]

^^ Joseph's ceiling is higher than Beverley's, tbh, and I'm not even a big fan of Cojo's..

I dont think Coach Pop was either!

[hsxvvd]

bloody hell, what would Patty be worth on the open market right now if thats what people paid for cojo?

More hilarious will be what Delly gets!

[99 Problems]

Couple of good Americans from Europe looking for jobs as PG.

[RD2191]

I'm out, you can find me on RaptorsTalk.com.

[Raven]

Wonder if the spurs will show any interest in a 3rd string PG like Barbosa or if they'll just let Manu & Patty handle it (assuming Manu returns) and spend the money on another big & wing. I'd assume the latter.

why would they.. geez please pop don't go all drew gooden and charlie villanueva on us ...

[Raven]

Beverly signed for 4yrs 25mil...

3rd string Cojo 4yr 30mil...

Belli, Baynes and Cojo... 69mil!

beverly is a very limited player and is coming from an injury.

[benfti]

I'm out, you can find me on RaptorsTalk.com. This off season just keeps getting better!

[Mugen]

I'm out, you can find me on RaptorsTalk.com.

:lol

[RD2191]

This off season just keeps getting better!
You son of a...

[ducks]

:lol

This is player fan

[ChumpDumper]

I'm out, you can find me on RaptorsTalk.com.:cry It will still hurt. :cry

[RD2191]

:cry It will still hurt. :cry
:cry

[KaiRMD1]

This picture is depressing now because most of the guys that made this highlight are gone
http://i.imgur.com/tBCtHsk.gif

[BillMc]

What's dat nigga Nando up to?

He's playing in Moscow.

[Sean Cagney]

From people who didn't watch the first two games of the first round?

My GOD thats my last memory of the poor guy..... Getting hammered on three times in embarrassing fashion and getting thrown down by Barnes in the struggle for the ball. I did not look at him the same after that nor did Pop, he benched him.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Spurs lost Joseph for nothing, shoulda traded him to Toronto before the deadline. Coulda had an extra 2nd, at minimum.

[Ice009]

My GOD thats my last memory of the poor guy..... Getting hammered on three times in embarrassing fashion and getting thrown down by Barnes in the struggle for the ball. I did not look at him the same after that nor did Pop, he benched him.

Yeah man, I found it hard to even look at Baynes after those plays.

[DJR210]

Yeah man, I found it hard to even look at Baynes after those plays.

:lol

[Fireball]

This picture is depressing now because most of the guys that made this highlight are gone
http://i.imgur.com/tBCtHsk.gif

that gif is still one my favorites ... both the plays and McMahon are awesome

[Sean Cagney]

Yeah man, I found it hard to even look at Baynes after those plays.

Whats funny is Pop even benched him for the series after that, like he felt so embarassed by it himself or bad for him he said you are not playing again and that was a wrap for him (Ironically in a Spurs Uni too). I felt bad for the dude honestly, he got abused so bad that game it took his bball soul man, never to come back.

[kobyz]

Now Spurs need to give a call to Gal Mekel before it's too late...

[Biernutz]

You can't blame Cory when a team throws that kind of money at him.

[Ice009]

Whats funny is Pop even benched him for the series after that, like he felt so embarassed by it himself or bad for him he said you are not playing again and that was a wrap for him (Ironically in a Spurs Uni too). I felt bad for the dude honestly, he got abused so bad that game it took his bball soul man, never to come back.

It was that wrestle for that ball with Barnes that lost me. I cannot believe he got punked by Barnes. It's one thing getting dunking on by Blake Griffin, but darn, there is no way he should have been made to look a fool by Matt Barnes. I thought that was pathetic and weak and I was disgusted with him after that. He just got abused. I was one of the guys that wanted him back last season with a slight raise, but I didn't think he's worth much more than he got paid last season. The guy really didn't show much toughness out there and I thought that was what he was on the team for. To be an enforcer and show some toughness out there. Well, that is what I wanted him on the team for.

I also can't believe the contracts these guys are currently getting. There is no way that I'd pay Baynes, Belinelli or Joseph anywhere near the amount they've just gotten. Even if we had the cap room, I still wouldn't give them the amount they're going to get on these new contracts they're about to sign.

Splitter seems like a bargain right now compared to these guys. I wonder if the Spurs shopped Splitter around much before making the deal with Atlanta? If not, I wonder if they could have gotten something better from other teams right now if they could do that trade over.

[Shabazz]

I really hope they fill the 3rd PG role with Nate Wolters. I'm not entirely sure why the dude is floating around in summer leagues, tbh. He showed good promise in Milwaukee and I thought other teams would've taken notice.


Kendall Marshall

[BillMc]

I wish him well. Good that most of these guys (Baynes, Splitter, Joseph) are going East so we don't have to deal with them. I always hate when ex-Spurs put on a show against us.

[Sean Cagney]

It was that wrestle for that ball with Barnes that lost me. I cannot believe he got punked by Barnes. It's one thing getting dunking on by Blake Griffin, but darn, there is no way he should have been made to look a fool by Matt Barnes. I thought that was pathetic and weak and I was disgusted with him after that. He just got abused. I was one of the guys that wanted him back last season with a slight raise, but I didn't think he's worth much more than he got paid last season. The guy really didn't show much toughness out there and I thought that was what he was on the team for. To be an enforcer and show some toughness out there. Well, that is what I wanted him on the team for.

I also can't believe the contracts these guys are currently getting. There is no way that I'd pay Baynes, Belinelli or Joseph anywhere near the amount they've just gotten. Even if we had the cap room, I still wouldn't give them the amount they're going to get on these new contracts they're about to sign.

Splitter seems like a bargain right now compared to these guys. I wonder if the Spurs shopped Splitter around much before making the deal with Atlanta? If not, I wonder if they could have gotten something better from other teams right now if they could do that trade over.Splitter was just for cap room to sign Aldridge imo, what did they get for him Anyways? Lol. I agree on those guys contracts though, insane!!! Wes Matthews near max too? Lol. I would not pay most of these guys near what they got but the contracts are getting a lot bigger now it seems for role players and just good players getting near max money. 30 mill for Joseph is insane, bet he is happy he left now and got that contract. He is a back up getting a big check.

[BillMc]

It was that wrestle for that ball with Barnes that lost me. I cannot believe he got punked by Barnes. It's one thing getting dunking on by Blake Griffin, but darn, there is no way he should have been made to look a fool by Matt Barnes. I thought that was pathetic and weak and I was disgusted with him after that. He just got abused. I was one of the guys that wanted him back last season with a slight raise, but I didn't think he's worth much more than he got paid last season. The guy really didn't show much toughness out there and I thought that was what he was on the team for. To be an enforcer and show some toughness out there. Well, that is what I wanted him on the team for.

I also can't believe the contracts these guys are currently getting. There is no way that I'd pay Baynes, Belinelli or Joseph anywhere near the amount they've just gotten. Even if we had the cap room, I still wouldn't give them the amount they're going to get on these new contracts they're about to sign.

Splitter seems like a bargain right now compared to these guys. I wonder if the Spurs shopped Splitter around much before making the deal with Atlanta? If not, I wonder if they could have gotten something better from other teams right now if they could do that trade over.

R.C. wouldn't have given them that much. This is classic NBA. Role players on a championship team get massively overpaid. It happens all the time. With the cap boom coming and us shedding salary to get LaMarcus its just happening all at once right now. Remember R.C. and Pop lined up everyone's contracts to end at the same time. It's not surprising. Don't worry, R.C. will get us more role players as good as these. My only fear is it takes a year or so to do, since we're capped out.

And by far the most important "role player" (if we can call him that any more) was Danny Green who we locked up Day 1.:toast

[slick'81]

R.C. wouldn't have given them that much. This is classic NBA. Role players on a championship team get massively overpaid. It happens all the time. With the cap boom coming and us shedding salary to get LaMarcus its just happening all at once right now. Remember R.C. and Pop lined up everyone's contracts to end at the same time. It's not surprising. Don't worry, R.C. will get us more role players as good as these. My only fear is it takes a year or so to do, since we're capped out.


yeah the nba taking the spurs depth trying to make Duncan play more back to backs lol

[eric365]

Pretty annoyed that Toronto would play the situation like that. They clearly don't plan to give up an asset to the Spurs (otherwise, the withdrawal of the QO would be unnecessary). So the Spurs are letting Cory go for nothing. If Manu retires, it will be a pretty terrible sequence of events for the Spurs.

Of course they play the situation like that

And you would be pretty annoyed if the spurs give up assets for a player they could get anyway
It's the NBA. Teams don't have to make gift to the spurs.

That's the same when spurs fans are annoyed because a good player wouldn't accept to take a paycut to play for the spurs :rolleyes

[Fireball]

Godspeed CoJo ... your defensive hustle and solid basket attack will be missed.

[Chinook]

Of course they play the situation like that

And you would be pretty annoyed if the spurs give up assets for a player they could get anyway
It's the NBA. Teams don't have to make gift to the spurs.

That's the same when spurs fans are annoyed because a good player wouldn't accept to take a paycut to play for the spurs :rolleyes

They "got him anyway" because the Spurs let them.

[BillMc]

Funny. Mills wins the backup spot over Joseph and ends up with way less money than him.

[benfti]

Funny. Mills wins the backup spot over Joseph and ends up with way less money than him.
I'm not sure if patty is as amused as you.

[ceperez]

I'm not sure if patty is as amused as you.

Patty may have taken a pay cut just like Boris.

Ginobili,Parker and most recently Duncan have all been taking pay cuts to be able to play together.

Ginobili in the current open market may in fact even command a $7m a year figure, but who knows if he'll take a pay cut to stay in the team.

[SupremeGuy]

Funny. Mills wins the backup spot over Joseph and ends up with way less money than him.To be fair, Patty was coming off an injury on his shooting shoulder...

[TheCerebral1]

Good luck Cory, you get to go to play in Canada. You surprised me with your improvements each season, it was a pleasure to watch you.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Pop, "Hey T.J., how is your neck? I got 600k for you!" lol am I the only one who thinks we need to temper our expectations this upcoming season? There is NO money for a bench.

[AFBlue]

That's actually not a terrible deal when you put it in perspective.

1. The rising cap will put this at an MLE-level deal in two years, which isn't absurd for a competent backup PG.
2. The kid is only 23yrs old and has room to continue refining his game.
3. He performed well in long stretches when given the opportunity.
4. He's a true lead guard.
5. Good value compared to other young PGs that got paid....Hill, Lin, Jennings, Jackson, Dragic, Knight.

Ultimately you do this deal for Cory if you feel like all he needs is an opportunity in a solid, stable role. I personally think it's a good deal for both sides and wouldn't be surprised if Cory had a mini "breakout" in his Toronto years. Who knows, maybe the Spurs bring him back in 3-4yrs to carry the torch from Tony.

[Seventyniner]

Why was withdrawing the QO necessary? Let's say Joseph remained a RFA and he signed this offer sheet with the Raptors on the 9th. Could the Spurs free up the cap space by just renouncing him and forgoing the three-day window to match?

[Seventyniner]

That's actually not a terrible deal when you put it in perspective.

1. The rising cap will put this at an MLE-level deal in two years, which isn't absurd for a competent backup PG.
2. The kid is only 23yrs old and has room to continue refining his game.
3. He performed well in long stretches when given the opportunity.
4. He's a true lead guard.
5. Good value compared to other young PGs that got paid....Hill, Lin, Jennings, Jackson, Dragic, Knight.

Ultimately you do this deal for Cory if you feel like all he needs is an opportunity in a solid, stable role. I personally think it's a good deal for both sides and wouldn't be surprised if Cory had a mini "breakout" in his Toronto years. Who knows, maybe the Spurs bring him back in 3-4yrs to carry the torch from Tony.

The rising cap is being used to justify all sorts of deals, but to me this one is still a bit over the line into overpaying territory. Even with a $108M cap, you don't want to be paying ~8% of it to a bench player unless they're awesome like Iguodala, semi-prime Manu, etc.

[AFBlue]

Pop, "Hey T.J., how is your neck? I got 600k for you!" lol am I the only one who thinks we need to temper our expectations this upcoming season? There is NO money for a bench.

Most rosters don't go three deep in competent lead guards tbqh. It only feels like a big loss because he was so good in his stint last year as the main PG early in the season. But now that Patty is back full-time it shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully neither he nor Parker goes out for an extended period of time though, because that's when it might hurt.

In other words, a third string PG for the min is normal.

[Chinook]

Why was withdrawing the QO necessary? Let's say Joseph remained a RFA and he signed this offer sheet with the Raptors on the 9th. Could the Spurs free up the cap space by just renouncing him and forgoing the three-day window to match?

Yeah, if they give a letter to the league renouncing their right of first refusal, they can clear that cap hold instantly.

[Chinook]

The rising cap is being used to justify all sorts of deals, but to me this one is still a bit over the line into overpaying territory. Even with a $108M cap, you don't want to be paying ~8% of it to a bench player unless they're awesome like Iguodala, semi-prime Manu, etc.

Diaw makes more than that right now. Manu and Diaw made more last year. It's not all that uncommon.

[AFBlue]

The rising cap is being used to justify all sorts of deals, but to me this one is still a bit over the line into overpaying territory. Even with a $108M cap, you don't want to be paying ~8% of it to a bench player unless they're awesome like Iguodala, semi-prime Manu, etc.

Maybe they think he could be awesome. He was pretty good when he got regular minutes last year and is still only 23yrs old. You focused on on the rising cap reason and glossed over the other points tbqh. But, then you might not think he's very good.

[Fireball]

Pop, "Hey T.J., how is your neck? I got 600k for you!" lol am I the only one who thinks we need to temper our expectations this upcoming season? There is NO money for a bench.

If Manu comes back and West signs, Spurs will be very competitive ... but still not as deep as we are adapt to. I do not think it is enough to finish Top2 in the West before the playoffs start ...

[TrainOfThought5]

Im a little upset by this.. i hope we can find another solid piece who can play decent defense and be a steward of the offense. Because lately TP hasnt been providing much of that at all. Who knows, maybe Patty continues his development and becomes a viable playmaker.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Au revoir et bon chance, Cory. You were an excellent Spur and I wish we could have kept you. :toast

[SPURt]

Good for CoJo, no way the Spurs were gonna pay him more than Duncan

[littlecoyotecoin]

:lol Baynes was an average defender, I've read several posts the past week that claim his defense will be a significant loss for the Spurs..not sure where that perception came from..

I can agree with this. Always have, when he was pouting about not getting paid last year as well. We all loved the brute, but he was a little short, slow-footed and with a mediocre leaping ability. He got exposed in the playoffs. Offensively, he was just a guy. I would say that the only thing he did exceptionally well was set some bone-crushing screens. Everything else about his game was bland and replaceable.

[ceperez]

I can agree with this. Always have, when he was pouting about not getting paid last year as well. We all loved the brute, but he was a little short, slow-footed and with a mediocre leaping ability. He got exposed in the playoffs. Offensively, he was just a guy. I would say that the only thing he did exceptionally well was set some bone-crushing screens. Everything else about his game was bland and replaceable.

The Spurs will need a replacement that can set up those bone-crushing screens. I suspect Tavares is that guy. He only needs to do one thing and one thing well..... set bone crushing screens.

[littlecoyotecoin]

It was that wrestle for that ball with Barnes that lost me. I cannot believe he got punked by Barnes. It's one thing getting dunking on by Blake Griffin, but darn, there is no way he should have been made to look a fool by Matt Barnes. I thought that was pathetic and weak and I was disgusted with him after that. He just got abused. I was one of the guys that wanted him back last season with a slight raise, but I didn't think he's worth much more than he got paid last season. The guy really didn't show much toughness out there and I thought that was what he was on the team for. To be an enforcer and show some toughness out there. Well, that is what I wanted him on the team for.

I also can't believe the contracts these guys are currently getting. There is no way that I'd pay Baynes, Belinelli or Joseph anywhere near the amount they've just gotten. Even if we had the cap room, I still wouldn't give them the amount they're going to get on these new contracts they're about to sign.

Splitter seems like a bargain right now compared to these guys. I wonder if the Spurs shopped Splitter around much before making the deal with Atlanta? If not, I wonder if they could have gotten something better from other teams right now if they could do that trade over.

That tussle with Barnes gave a bad perception. Barnes didn't really win that. Baynes never let go of the ball. He was in an awkward footing, and tripping over stuff on the sidelines. Barnes was sure-footed and had all the leverage. I don't care that he is gone, but it's for all kinds of other reasons than that. That struggle was just poetic visual punctuation.

[bigfan]

Good luck CoJo, did a great job here with no complaints. Glad he got paid.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs will need a replacement that can set up those bone-crushing screens. I suspect Tavares is that guy. He only needs to do one thing and one thing well..... set bone crushing screens.Doesn't look like that will happen. He can't be traded now.

[Seventyniner]

Diaw makes more than that right now. Manu and Diaw made more last year. It's not all that uncommon.

It's hard to compare the Spurs situation to the rest of the league given Duncan's willingness to play below market value. If Duncan even pulled a semi-Kobe on the Spurs, they would have to be far more careful in the deals they give out.

[ceperez]

Doesn't look like that will happen. He can't be traded now.

Nobody signs till the 9th. Splitter gets traded on condition that Tavares gets signed for 1.5m. Tavares signs but it isn't done until the 9th, just like Spitter's deal. Tavares contract gets traded to Spurs on the 9th in exchange for Splitter dump.