Road side tent ministry of Bertans

[99 Problems]

If keeps shooting the 3 at 50%ish I'm happy, let me be very clear on that. Haha.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Dudes gonna have a career best of 4 rebounds when its all said and done though

Think of all the BUCKETS though!

SWISH!

[emanueldavidginobili]

What has surprised me big time is his playmaking ability, kid has a really good feel for the game

[Mr. Body]

Nm

[SsKSpurs21]

can this guy get upgraded from a roadside tent?!

[YGWHI]

824078028980572161
Me, too :D

:flag:

[John Petrucci]

A lot of us saw this coming pretty much immediately after watching him in the summer league (and some before that in Europe) You could just tell he wasn't afraid and had NBA ready skills and very impressive athleticism. Love seeing it come to fruition :toast

[DAF86]

He's a stick who may not put much weight on because of his knees and can't rebound to save his life. Dude, I think he's good.

Don't be afaid for his physicality son, he's used to bang on FIBA play where the game is a lot more compressed and physical.

[Mr. Body]

Don't be afaid for his physicality son, he's used to bang on FIBA play where the game is a lot more compressed and physical.

And tore his knee twice.

[DAF86]

And tore his knee twice.

In my way of seeing things, that would be "injury-proness", not "lack of physicality". Lack of physicality, imho, is what Splitter (and now, sometimes Aldridge) displayed on offense with his timid offensive moves. Being soft, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Loved him out there! I always thought the comparison to Bonnie was completely unfair. This kid can pass, shows a little in between game, and can drive well. He also sacks up which I appreciate.

Anyone who understands a little of the basketball knows that it was an unfair comparison

[still.focused]

Loved last nights aggression
Im impressed with his decision making
The bounce pass to Murray in the lane >>>>>>>

[cutewizard]

Silkworm, or perhaps being Larry Bird Lite >>>>>>>>> Condor!!!!!!!!!!!

the Latvian Condor!

[ace3g]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Davis Bertans is only the second rookie in Spurs history to hit 5+ three-pointers in a game. Gary Neal holds the record with 6 in 2011.

[BillMc]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Davis Bertans is only the second rookie in Spurs history to hit 5+ three-pointers in a game. Gary Neal holds the record with 6 in 2011.
:toast

[r0drig0lac]

alpha

[BillMc]

Davis with 1.505 points per shot. :wow

:flag:

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Kid will be an all-star someday.

Maybe. He needs to get stronger and continue working hard.

[cd021]

I would love to see Bertans be an option against GSW. If Pop decides smaller in the starting lineup.

Gives the Spurs a ton of spacing between Green-Leonard-Bertans with Parker and LMA potientially being able to score effectively with pick and pops.

Warriors would have problems protecting the rim with Durant guarding Bertans or Leonard. Green would be away from the basket and it would be hard to trap or switch because it would leave Aldridge open from 18 feet or with a mismatch (Thompson)

[BillMc]

I would love to see Bertans be an option against GSW. If Pop decides smaller in the starting lineup.

Gives the Spurs a ton of spacing between Green-Leonard-Bertans with Parker and LMA potientially being able to score effectively with pick and pops.

Warriors would have problems protecting the rim with Durant guarding Bertans or Leonard. Green would be away from the basket and it would be hard to trap or switch because it would leave Aldridge open from 18 feet or with a mismatch (Thompson)

Who would you have Davis guard in that scenario? Green? He might be ok on Draymond....

[Cklbmk]

He's going to be legit in a year or 2 when he adds some weight.

Offensively he's at 69% TS.


If he gets the strength to rebound he'll be an allstar once Gasol leaves.

We should seriously consider trading Patty + Anderson + Simmons to get more minutes for Bertans and Murray

[SAGirl]

He has been damn impressive offensively. I hope he continues to take advantage of his opportunities overall. :tu

[TrainOfThought5]

I see him as physically limited and not dominant enough to be an all-star, but I do see a superior role-player, possibly.

What did you think kawhi Leonard was going to be when he was drafted?

[MaNu4Tres]

He's going to be legit in a year or 2 when he adds some weight.

Offensively he's at 69% TS.


If he gets the strength to rebound he'll be an allstar once Gasol leaves.

We should seriously consider trading Patty + Anderson + Simmons to get more minutes for Bertans and Murray

He's already legit.

And he doesn't need to add weight -- this isn't 1990 where post play and post defense is critical. This is 2017 where most offense and defense is initiated from the perimeter. He needs to maintain or optimize the mobility he has as much as possible - gaining weight just decreases mobility. If anything, he needs to add strength but not necessarily weight and there's ways to do that ( I.E -- workouts with a lot of reps but not necessarily a lot of weight.

[r0drig0lac]

He's already legit.

this
He is one of the best shooters in the world (even before he coming to nba), he is ready to make impact

[UZER]

this
He is one of the best shooters in the world (even before he coming to nba), he is ready to make impact

"Cept he's not over himself yet."

- Pop

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhFAwWArjOU

[TD 21]

It's too early to say this with certainty or conviction, but he might be the 2nd best scorer on the team. Either way, he's more than just a shooter and clearly needs more minutes.

[BillMc]

It's too early to say this with certainty or conviction, but he might be the 2nd best scorer on the team. Either way, he's more than just a shooter and clearly needs more minutes.

I was a little sad Pop didn't play him 1 second in the 4th tonight.

[DarrinS]

I was a little sad Pop didn't play him 1 second in the 4th tonight.

Same here. And he played respectable D.

[BillMc]

Same here. And he played respectable D.

Yeah. D tonight was much improved. Also both those misses on the 3s were halfway down. Kid can shoot. Should have been in for that last play at least. I mean he had a 4 point play earlier this game.

[picnroll]

Only explanation Bertans didn't come back is that Pop is developing Alzheimer's.

[UZER]

He's not over himself.

[ace3g]

Nick Moyle ‏@NRMoyle (https://twitter.com/NRMoyle)






You probably have more complete fingers than Davis Bertans, but he's definitely a better shooter than you. http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-Bertans-ignores-childhood-issue-that-10894354.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop … (https://t.co/ytNB8EZfbM) via @mySA (https://twitter.com/mySA)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3cbo8UUYAA5z5l.jpg

[ace3g]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/827333179220619265)




Davis Bertans now has the most three-pointers by a Spurs rookie in a season since Kawhi Leonard's 41 in 2011-12. Bertans now has 38 threes.

1 reply 32 retweets 55 likes

[TheDoctor]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/827333179220619265)




Davis Bertans now has the most three-pointers by a Spurs rookie in a season since Kawhi Leonard's 41 in 2011-12. Bertans now has 38 threes.

1 reply 32 retweets 55 likes

Impressive :hat

[DAF86]

Nick Moyle ‏@NRMoyle (https://twitter.com/NRMoyle)






You probably have more complete fingers than Davis Bertans, but he's definitely a better shooter than you. http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-Bertans-ignores-childhood-issue-that-10894354.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop … (https://t.co/ytNB8EZfbM) via @mySA (https://twitter.com/mySA)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3cbo8UUYAA5z5l.jpg

How can he be such a good shooter with 4 and a half fingers. I wondet if he would be even better with all 5 complete.

[coachmac87]

How can he be such a good shooter with 4 and a half fingers. I wondet if he would be even better with all 5 complete.

Not really..the index and middle finger are most important with the middle finger being last thing touching the ball as it leaves your hand

[Fireball]

too much chucking tonight tbh

[spurs10]

His first two shots were beautiful. I'm glad he isn't scared to shoot.

[ceperez]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/827333179220619265)




Davis Bertans now has the most three-pointers by a Spurs rookie in a season since Kawhi Leonard's 41 in 2011-12. Bertans now has 38 threes.

1 reply 32 retweets 55 likes

:bobo

[ceperez]

It's too early to say this with certainty or conviction, but he might be the 2nd best scorer on the team. Either way, he's more than just a shooter and clearly needs more minutes.

This is his first season in the NBA. I don't want to see him hit the freshman wall until after the playoffs. Limited minutes. We know that's he's really good.

Also, I like the fact that he's become a more active body in the offense and not some guy just spacing the floor.

[BillMc]

Rookies have to prove things in steps: 1. Do they belong in the league. 2. Do they belong in the rotation. 3. Do they belong in the starting lineup (or 6th man). 4. Could they be the next face of the franchise?

Davis is at step 2.

Other rooks:
Forbes: Trying to get to 1
Murray: 1, showed flashes that he could be 4 someday. He's knocking on the door of 2 presently.

Kawhi got to 3 his rookie year and was 4 by his second year.

TD was a 4 on draft day. :lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

Rookies have to prove things in steps: 1. Do they belong in the league. 2. Do they belong in the rotation. 3. Do they belong in the starting lineup (or 6th man). 4. Could they be the next face of the franchise?

Davis is at step 2.

Other rooks:
Forbes: Trying to get to 1
Murray: 1, showed flashes that he could be 4 someday. He's knocking on the door of 2 presently.

Kawhi got to 3 his rookie year and was 4 by his second year.

TD was a 4 on draft day. :lol

TD was a 5 on draft day :lol

5. Could they be one of the GOATs?

[BillMc]

TD was a 5 on draft day :lol

5. Could they be one of the GOATs of all-time?
:toast Truth.

[dabom]

Porker is at 10. Old shit bag that needs to retire. :lol

[ace3g]

Tom Orsborn Verified account ‏@tom_orsborn (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)






Nuggets' Malone on Bertans: "You look at him and think he is Matt Bonner, but he is not Matt Bonner. They have a hell of a young player."

[dabom]

Tom Orsborn Verified account ‏@tom_orsborn (https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn)






Nuggets' Malone on Bertans: "You look at him and think he is Matt Bonner, but he is not Matt Bonner. They have a hell of a young player."

Dude is implying he doesnt suck. :lol

[Ice009]

Matt Bonner should never have been on the Spurs for as long as he was. Everyone says he was a terrific guy and that may be so, but being a terrific guy didn't mean he needed to be on the team. If they liked him that much as a person, they could have given him a job in the front office to keep his personality around if he didn't get picked up by another team or chose to leave.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1WES_X-R_g

[wildbill2u]

I'd like to see Bertans played at PF across from Kwahi. His threat to shoot 3s would really pull another big out of the paint and let Kwahi operate down low or drive. Aldrige usually doesn't play far enough away from the paint to do that.

And he is showing more and more that he can handle the ball to drive past an opponent on the P&R. Or just iso drive past with a good shot fake.

He'll be solid in the rotation for at least 15 minutes by the playoffs. Book that.

[GSH]

I'd like to see Bertans played at PF across from Kwahi. His threat to shoot 3s would really pull another big out of the paint and let Kwahi operate down low or drive. Aldrige usually doesn't play far enough away from the paint to do that.

And he is showing more and more that he can handle the ball to drive past an opponent on the P&R. Or just iso drive past with a good shot fake.

He'll be solid in the rotation for at least 15 minutes by the playoffs. Book that.


Being able to shoot the 3 AND drive to the rim is a big deal. The second part is what has kept Danny from being a big difference-maker on the offensive end. I wouldn't bet on Pop giving him extended minutes, though.

[NASpurs]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691752-spurs-rookie-davis-bertans-has-forced-his-way-into-gregg-popovichs-plans

SPURS ROOKIE DAVIS BERTANS HAS FORCED HIS WAY INTO GREGG POPOVICH'S PLANS


Mike Monroe (http://bleacherreport.com/users/7545664) Featured Columnist

February 9, 2017SAN ANTONIO — Salt, meet wound.

The 2011 draft-night deal that sent guard George Hill to the Indiana Pacers for the rights to two-time All-Star Kawhi Leonard also included a barely known mid-second-round pick. At home in Latvia, Davis Bertans stayed up until 7 in the morning to hear that the Pacers made him the 12th selection of the second round and traded his rights to the Spurs.

"I was definitely happy it was the Spurs," Bertans said. "It didn't matter how many years it was going to take for me to come here. I knew they counted on me coming here, and I was going to wait for my time."

Five years later, Bertans has forced his way into the San Antonio Spurs rotation. This is where Pacers fans should stop reading.

The 24-year-old forward is one of the most confident first-year players head coach Gregg Popovich has seen in 20 seasons on the Spurs bench.

"His confidence and the way he comes into a game—he might come in at the end of the game; he might come in the middle and not expect to be playing—and he doesn't miss a beat," Popovich said. "He comes in and plays like he's been playing all night, so that's kind of cool."

The 6'10" forward from Valmiera, Latvia, has worked his way into Popovich's game-to-game plans with a combination of three-point accuracy (39 percent, even after his Memphis oh-fer), athleticism (he's a fan favorite during pregame layup drills) and quicker-than-expected adjustment to the Spurs' defensive scheme.

Bertans has appeared in 43 of 51 games, averaging 4.2 points in 11.6 minutes per outing. He's started three times, two of which came since Pau Gasol left the Spurs lineup on Jan. 19 with a fractured bone in his left hand. Since Jan. 23, he has averaged 8.4 points in 19.0 minutes across San Antonio's past eight games.

But Bertans will have to improve defensively to carve out a role in this season's playoffs. He acknowledges that the intricacies of Popovich's defensive scheme occasionally leave him out of position.

"It is difficult," he said. "At the same time, it's simple: You know what Coach wants from you, and you just try to stay focused and try to read the game as best you can. Of course, you are always going to make mistakes, and Coach always points them out right away."

Popovich understands the adjustment players from Europe have to make after competing in leagues without defensive three-second rules.

"Obviously, his skill is shooting," Popovich said. "He's already a pretty innately skilled passer. But defensively, he will have to learn team rotations, individual 'D,' learn the league, guys in the league. So, his is just more an experience situation more than anything. But he is a good ballplayer. He understands the game."

Bertans' confidence has been tested plenty of times before.

The wait was longer than either Bertans or the Spurs expected. He spent 2011 with Union Olimpija in Slovenia, where he played alongside future Spurs teammate Danny Green. (Green played there during the 2011 NBA lockout.)

"He was my pick-and-pop guy," said Green, unsurprised by Bertans' confidence as a shooter. "He changed the game for us a lot. He helped us in the pick-and-roll. In Europe, you have no three-seconds [violation], so you need shooters."

After Olimpija, Bertans signed with Serbian power Partizan Belgrade in January 2012. During the Serbian League Finals in June 2013, he tore the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his right knee, an injury that has scuttled many NBA dreams.

The Spurs arranged for Bertans to come to San Antonio to have the knee repaired by their orthopedic specialist, Dr. David Schmidt. After returning to Europe and working hard at physical therapy, he returned to the court nine months later and helped Partizan win the 2013-14 Serbian League championship.

In July 2014, Bertans signed with Laboral Kutxa Baskonia of the Spanish ACB League for the 2014-15 season. Near the end of a solid first season in Spain, he again tore the ACL in his right knee.

Surprisingly, the second injury seemed less daunting.

"After the first time that it happened, right away, I thought my career was over," Bertans said. "And that moment was not just about the NBA; it was about my whole career, the whole thing, even in Europe. We all know so many guys before who had the same injury never came back the same. Usually, there was something missing."

Bertans returned to San Antonio for a second successful surgery. He was more patient with his second rehabilitation regimen, understanding every aspect of the process, because he already had endured it.
"The second time was so much easier," he said. "I knew I needed those nine months."

Bertans finally signed a two-year, $1.45 million bargain deal with the Spurs last July. Already playing regularly for a team with the NBA's second-best record, he has the look of a future starter for a San Antonio franchise that always thinks years ahead.

"I don't have any doubt," Denver Nuggets head coach Mike Malone said of Bertans' potential as a future Spurs starter. "Obviously, these guys see him every day so they will know, but from all the film work and the times we've played them, you can see, from Game 1 to now, the confidence that he has and the confidence that they put in him by playing him more.

"You look at him and think he is Matt Bonner, but he is not Matt Bonner. They have a hell of a young player. I'm a big fan of his, and the last time we played them, Tony Parker sat and Dejounte Murray kicked our ass. So, those are two young players who have the luxury of being around Hall of Fame players and a Hall of Fame coach, and they're just going to soak it all up, and it's just going to be to their advantage."

Never one to tip his hand about future moves, Popovich makes it clear he, too, sees Bertans as an important piece of his team's future.

"He is somebody who has a really bright future," Popovich said. "He just needs minutes and experience. He plays an all-around game. He blocks shots. He works hard defensively. But his skill as a shooter is pretty unique. He's got great range, and he can put it down on the floor, and he can pass the basketball."

Whether or not that future will include a significant role in this year's playoffs will depend on how Bertans responds in the final 31 games of the regular season. There's plenty of reason to be confident.

[dabom]

Bertans is OG.

BillMc

[Blake]

Kid will be an all-star someday.

Lol knee jerking

[Blake]

But I do love Bertans game

[DAF86]

Lol knee jerking

Nope, it's not knee jerking. It's knowing how good this kid is, from watching him in Europe and International ball.

[Blake]

Nope, it's not knee jerking. It's knowing how good this kid is, from watching him in Europe and International ball.

Whatever you want to call it. Bertans is a nice player with great upside, but no, he'll never be an all star

[DAF86]

Whatever you want to call it. Bertans is a nice player with great upside, but no, he'll never be an all star

How the fuck can you possibly know that now? :lol If someone told you a while back that Kyle Korver was going to be an all-star, what would have you said?

Bertans is going to be an all-star, book it.

[DAF86]

btw, neat prediction about Kawhi, tbh. :tu


Leonard's ceiling is slightly higher than Sean Fuck the Lakers.

I'll give him a 4 coaches vote all star ceiling.

[dabom]

btw, neat prediction about Kawhi, tbh. :tu

:lol

[SAGirl]

btw, neat prediction about Kawhi, tbh. :tu
stgarting
to think Blake is not a Spur fan after all.. He only shows up to criticize and troll in general... there is plenty of that from some here, but they usually have a couple of favorite players at least... He just shows up to generally troll.

[SAGirl]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691752-spurs-rookie-davis-bertans-has-forced-his-way-into-gregg-popovichs-plans

SPURS ROOKIE DAVIS BERTANS HAS FORCED HIS WAY INTO GREGG POPOVICH'S PLANS


Mike Monroe (http://bleacherreport.com/users/7545664) Featured Columnist

February 9, 2017SAN ANTONIO — Salt, meet wound.

The 2011 draft-night deal that sent guard George Hill to the Indiana Pacers for the rights to two-time All-Star Kawhi Leonard also included a barely known mid-second-round pick. At home in Latvia, Davis Bertans stayed up until 7 in the morning to hear that the Pacers made him the 12th selection of the second round and traded his rights to the Spurs.

"I was definitely happy it was the Spurs," Bertans said. "It didn't matter how many years it was going to take for me to come here. I knew they counted on me coming here, and I was going to wait for my time."

Five years later, Bertans has forced his way into the San Antonio Spurs rotation. This is where Pacers fans should stop reading.

The 24-year-old forward is one of the most confident first-year players head coach Gregg Popovich has seen in 20 seasons on the Spurs bench.

"His confidence and the way he comes into a game—he might come in at the end of the game; he might come in the middle and not expect to be playing—and he doesn't miss a beat," Popovich said. "He comes in and plays like he's been playing all night, so that's kind of cool."

The 6'10" forward from Valmiera, Latvia, has worked his way into Popovich's game-to-game plans with a combination of three-point accuracy (39 percent, even after his Memphis oh-fer), athleticism (he's a fan favorite during pregame layup drills) and quicker-than-expected adjustment to the Spurs' defensive scheme.

Bertans has appeared in 43 of 51 games, averaging 4.2 points in 11.6 minutes per outing. He's started three times, two of which came since Pau Gasol left the Spurs lineup on Jan. 19 with a fractured bone in his left hand. Since Jan. 23, he has averaged 8.4 points in 19.0 minutes across San Antonio's past eight games.

But Bertans will have to improve defensively to carve out a role in this season's playoffs. He acknowledges that the intricacies of Popovich's defensive scheme occasionally leave him out of position.

"It is difficult," he said. "At the same time, it's simple: You know what Coach wants from you, and you just try to stay focused and try to read the game as best you can. Of course, you are always going to make mistakes, and Coach always points them out right away."

Popovich understands the adjustment players from Europe have to make after competing in leagues without defensive three-second rules.

"Obviously, his skill is shooting," Popovich said. "He's already a pretty innately skilled passer. But defensively, he will have to learn team rotations, individual 'D,' learn the league, guys in the league. So, his is just more an experience situation more than anything. But he is a good ballplayer. He understands the game."

Bertans' confidence has been tested plenty of times before.

The wait was longer than either Bertans or the Spurs expected. He spent 2011 with Union Olimpija in Slovenia, where he played alongside future Spurs teammate Danny Green. (Green played there during the 2011 NBA lockout.)

"He was my pick-and-pop guy," said Green, unsurprised by Bertans' confidence as a shooter. "He changed the game for us a lot. He helped us in the pick-and-roll. In Europe, you have no three-seconds [violation], so you need shooters."

After Olimpija, Bertans signed with Serbian power Partizan Belgrade in January 2012. During the Serbian League Finals in June 2013, he tore the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his right knee, an injury that has scuttled many NBA dreams.

The Spurs arranged for Bertans to come to San Antonio to have the knee repaired by their orthopedic specialist, Dr. David Schmidt. After returning to Europe and working hard at physical therapy, he returned to the court nine months later and helped Partizan win the 2013-14 Serbian League championship.

In July 2014, Bertans signed with Laboral Kutxa Baskonia of the Spanish ACB League for the 2014-15 season. Near the end of a solid first season in Spain, he again tore the ACL in his right knee.

Surprisingly, the second injury seemed less daunting.

"After the first time that it happened, right away, I thought my career was over," Bertans said. "And that moment was not just about the NBA; it was about my whole career, the whole thing, even in Europe. We all know so many guys before who had the same injury never came back the same. Usually, there was something missing."

Bertans returned to San Antonio for a second successful surgery. He was more patient with his second rehabilitation regimen, understanding every aspect of the process, because he already had endured it.
"The second time was so much easier," he said. "I knew I needed those nine months."

Bertans finally signed a two-year, $1.45 million bargain deal with the Spurs last July. Already playing regularly for a team with the NBA's second-best record, he has the look of a future starter for a San Antonio franchise that always thinks years ahead.

"I don't have any doubt," Denver Nuggets head coach Mike Malone said of Bertans' potential as a future Spurs starter. "Obviously, these guys see him every day so they will know, but from all the film work and the times we've played them, you can see, from Game 1 to now, the confidence that he has and the confidence that they put in him by playing him more.

"You look at him and think he is Matt Bonner, but he is not Matt Bonner. They have a hell of a young player. I'm a big fan of his, and the last time we played them, Tony Parker sat and Dejounte Murray kicked our ass. So, those are two young players who have the luxury of being around Hall of Fame players and a Hall of Fame coach, and they're just going to soak it all up, and it's just going to be to their advantage."

Never one to tip his hand about future moves, Popovich makes it clear he, too, sees Bertans as an important piece of his team's future.

"He is somebody who has a really bright future," Popovich said. "He just needs minutes and experience. He plays an all-around game. He blocks shots. He works hard defensively. But his skill as a shooter is pretty unique. He's got great range, and he can put it down on the floor, and he can pass the basketball."

Whether or not that future will include a significant role in this year's playoffs will depend on how Bertans responds in the final 31 games of the regular season. There's plenty of reason to be confident.
As much as some criticize Bleacher Report (they indeed do too many poorly thought opinion pieces)... this article by Mike Moore is a good one, with quotes from player, coach and opposing coaches. His future does indeed look bright and his role in the postseason (while it remains to be seen) is a real possibility with his shooting.

The Pau injury was a blessing in disguise to him bc I doubt he would be playing this many minutes without that injury occurring.

[HarlemHeat37]

Love his confidence and toughness more than anything, tbh..

A trend I've noticed with the newer NBA Euros is the increase in aggression compared to the previous generations that were labeled "soft" IMO..I think it was Porzingis that actually discussed this, he felt he needed to show the fans immediately before they stereotyped him..

[NASpurs]

As much as some criticize Bleacher Report (they indeed do too many poorly thought opinion pieces)... this article by Mike Moore is a good one, with quotes from player, coach and opposing coaches. His future does indeed look bright and his role in the postseason (while it remains to be seen) is a real possibility with his shooting.

The Pau injury was a blessing in disguise to him bc I doubt he would be playing this many minutes without that injury occurring.

That's not just any writer from Bleacher Report, that's Mike Monroe who used to cover the Spurs on the San Antonio Express News for as long as I can remember.

http://bleacherreport.com/users/7545664-mike-monroe


Mike Monroe has been writing about pro basketball for more than 32 years. He began his newspaper career in Colorado Springs in 1968. It concluded a week before Christmas, 2015, when he retired from the San Antonio Express-News after 12 years covering the Spurs and the NBA. In between were stops at the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph and three years with FoxSports.com, beginning in 2000. He has served as president of the Professional Basketball Writers Association and is one of two recipients of its Phil Jasner Lifetime Achievement Award.

[ECOV]

As much as some criticize Bleacher Report (they indeed do too many poorly thought opinion pieces)... this article by Mike Moore is a good one, with quotes from player, coach and opposing coaches. His future does indeed look bright and his role in the postseason (while it remains to be seen) is a real possibility with his shooting.

The Pau injury was a blessing in disguise to him bc I doubt he would be playing this many minutes without that injury occurring. Very true, i believe things happen for reasons.

[DAF86]

Love his confidence and toughness more than anything, tbh..

A trend I've noticed with the newer NBA Euros is the increase in aggression compared to the previous generations that were labeled "soft" IMO..I think it was Porzingis that actually discussed this, he felt he needed to show the fans immediately before they stereotyped him..

And you know who started that, right? (despite not being an Euro) One of the most influencial players in league history, tbh.

[DAF86]

stgarting
to think Blake is not a Spur fan after all.. He only shows up to criticize and troll in general... there is plenty of that from some here, but they usually have a couple of favorite players at least... He just shows up to generally troll.

He's one of those insecure guys that tries not to been seem like a homer to be accepted by the "cool guys", tbh.

[UZER]

Love his confidence and toughness more than anything, tbh..

A trend I've noticed with the newer NBA Euros is the increase in aggression compared to the previous generations that were labeled "soft" IMO..I think it was Porzingis that actually discussed this, he felt he needed to show the fans immediately before they stereotyped him..

He's not a euro softy, which is why Bertans shoved Beasley. It was to stand up for his teammate as well as establish his presence in the NBA. But nooooo, Pop had to sit his ass for the next 10 games for getting ejected, (which was a ludicrous ejected too).

[UZER]

So next time he gets fouled hard, he will just whimper and walk away like Pop wants. Then Pop will question the teams toughness.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's not a euro softy, which is why Bertans shoved Beasley. It was to stand up for his teammate as well as establish his presence in the NBA. But nooooo, Pop had to sit his ass for the next 10 games for getting ejected, (which was a ludicrous ejected too).

Ya, I agree, but I wasn't even necessarily speaking about fighting and altercations..I was referring to style of play..

I wouldn't consider somebody like Vlade Divac to be soft, for example, but his style of play definitely was IMO(finesse, defensive flopping, jump shooting, etc)..

A lot of the Euros in the 2010s play an attacking, athletically physical style of basketball..guys like Marc Gasol(although his teens were spent in Memphis of all places:lol), Dragic, Porzingis, Nurkic(although Jokic has buried him), Gobert, Giannis, etc..you still have the soft, finesse, Dirk-style Euros like Jokic, but there's definitely been a shift IMO..

You can no longer look at somebody like Bertans and expect him to be a stereotypical European big that just shoots 3s and doesn't attack the rim..

[Blake]

btw, neat prediction about Kawhi, tbh. :tu

Oh noes I predicted his ceiling was All Star level.

Where's your prediction about Kawhi?

[Blake]

He's one of those insecure guys that tries not to been seem like a homer to be accepted by the "cool guys", tbh.

Bad prediction

[apalisoc_9]

Love his confidence in offense, but its funny watching hik on defense. He is like a baby deer trying to walk for the first time :lmao

Would be pissed though if he doesn't see minutes against Houston/Utah and other playoff matchups. He seems to react faster with his opportunities. Never hesistates. Either he shoots, or drives. Or passes..Plus, its nice that he's looking for his shots and itsnt shy on taking shots two feet away from the three point line.

[Blake]

stgarting
to think Blake is not a Spur fan after all.. He only shows up to criticize and troll in general... there is plenty of that from some here, but they usually have a couple of favorite players at least... He just shows up to generally troll.

I troll you therefore I'm not a Spur fan. Sound logic.

[DAF86]

Oh noes I predicted his ceiling was All Star level.

Where's your prediction about Kawhi?

If you're so interested look it up, like I did. If not, then don't.

[Blake]

stgarting
to think Blake is not a Spur fan after all.. He only shows up to criticize and troll in general...

That's a lie btw fwiw.

Not that it'll change anyone's opinion. Not that I'll lose sleep over yalls analyses

[DAF86]

Bad prediction

An on-line personality analysis, not a prediction, tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

Btw in comparison to Simmons, Anderson, Murray...He's the only "young" player that I think is playoff ready.

Anderson is probably ready too. Would make a great PF against Cavs/Houston.

[Blake]

If you're so interested look it up, like I did. If not, then don't.

Mmm almost, but not really that interested to follow up on your goal post. We're discussing Bertans.

[Blake]

An on-line personality analysis, not a prediction, tbh.

Bad analysis

[SAGirl]

So next time he gets fouled hard, he will just whimper and walk away like Pop wants. Then Pop will question the teams toughness.
UZER my guy... :lol
You made me laugh ....
:pop:

[Prose]

only downside is he can't palm the ball bc part of one of his fingers is missing on his right hand. thats why he always has to go lefty or two hand dunks

[still.focused]

only downside is he can't palm the ball bc part of one of his fingers is missing on his right hand. thats why he always has to go lefty or two hand dunks

You dont need to palm a ball to dunk it

[UZER]

Ya, I agree, but I wasn't even necessarily speaking about fighting and altercations..I was referring to style of play..

I wouldn't consider somebody like Vlade Divac to be soft, for example, but his style of play definitely was IMO(finesse, defensive flopping, jump shooting, etc)..

A lot of the Euros in the 2010s play an attacking, athletically physical style of basketball..guys like Marc Gasol(although his teens were spent in Memphis of all places:lol), Dragic, Porzingis, Nurkic(although Jokic has buried him), Gobert, Giannis, etc..you still have the soft, finesse, Dirk-style Euros like Jokic, but there's definitely been a shift IMO..

You can no longer look at somebody like Bertans and expect him to be a stereotypical European big that just shoots 3s and doesn't attack the rim..

Neither was I. I was just pointing to that as another example of his toughness. The way he attacks the rim is proof. They way he attacks the ball to contest shots at the rim is proof.

Bottom line. He ain't no softy euro.

[BillMc]

Nothing soft about the Latvians, tbh.

[ace3g]

Jordan Howenstine @AirlessJordan
(https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan) 54s (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/830237646588956672) David Bertans has made more threes this year (42) than Kawhi Leonard made his rookie season (41). Now sixth-most all time by a Spurs rookie.

[CGD]

Where would you put Bert in this 2011 redraft order? I say, today, low 20s, but year from now could be mid-teens.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.basketballinsiders.com/redrafting-the-2011-nba-draft/amp/

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Where would you put Bert in this 2011 redraft order? I say, today, low 20s, but year from now could be mid-teens.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.basketballinsiders.com/redrafting-the-2011-nba-draft/amp/

What a great draft this turned to be. It was supposed to be very weak.

[Mr. Body]

Where would you put Bert in this 2011 redraft order? I say, today, low 20s, but year from now could be mid-teens.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.basketballinsiders.com/redrafting-the-2011-nba-draft/amp/

You could even re-draft that re-draft. Isaiah Thomas is too low, for example, and it's only two years later!

[CGD]

You could even re-draft that re-draft. Isaiah Thomas is too low, for example, and it's only two years later!

So true, 2011 was a great draft, especially with some surprise in the back half of it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, the 2011 surprisingly looks like one of the deepest classes of all-time, tbh..

Re-draft based on past production, current production and projection based on age and situation IMO:

1. Kawhi
2. Butler
3. Klay Thompson
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Isiah Thomas
6. Kemba Walker
7. Tristan Thompson
8. Vucevic
9. Markieff Morris
10. Marcus Morris
11. Harris
12. Parsons
13. Faried
14. Reggie Jackson
15. Valenciunas
16. Kanter
17. Biyombo
18. Bertans
19. Shumpert
20. Knight

[apalisoc_9]

Ya, the 2011 surprisingly looks like one of the deepest classes of all-time, tbh..

Re-draft based on past production, current production and projection based on age and situation IMO:

1. Kawhi
2. Butler
3. Klay Thompson
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Isiah Thomas
6. Kemba Walker
7. Tristan Thompson
8. Vucevic
9. Markieff Morris
10. Marcus Morris
11. Harris
12. Parsons
13. Faried
14. Reggie Jackson
15. Valenciunas
16. Kanter
17. Biyombo
18. Bertans
19. Shumpert
20. Knight

Wow...

[CGD]

Ya, the 2011 surprisingly looks like one of the deepest classes of all-time, tbh..

Re-draft based on past production, current production and projection based on age and situation IMO:

1. Kawhi
2. Butler
3. Klay Thompson
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Isiah Thomas
6. Kemba Walker
7. Tristan Thompson
8. Vucevic
9. Markieff Morris
10. Marcus Morris
11. Harris
12. Parsons
13. Faried
14. Reggie Jackson
15. Valenciunas
16. Kanter
17. Biyombo
18. Bertans
19. Shumpert
20. Knight

Looks about right to me. Not sure if this is unusual, but impressive that 5 of those dudes have already won a championship.

[timtonymanu]

Wasn't 2011 projected as a weak draft at the time too? Not only did the Spurs grab a lottery pick, they took the overall best player of that draft. :wow

[GSH]

Davis Bertans: Saw a movie last night “A cure for Wellness”. Can somebody explain me what the hell was that? 2h 30min just wasted!!!

[BillMc]

Davis Bertans: Saw a movie last night “A cure for Wellness”. Can somebody explain me what the hell was that? 2h 30min just wasted!!!

Funnily, I just saw the trailer for "A Cure for Wellness" tonight when I went to watch John Wick 2 (in Ukrainian). My reaction was about the same as Davis's.

[ace3g]

840748791288471557

[Keepin' it real]

Still won't play meaningful minutes, sadly.

[BillMc]

840748791288471557
:toast

[Seventyniner]

840748791288471557

Put him on the Warriors or Rockets (or Cavs!) and he'd easily have 100+ by now.

[DAF86]

Future all-star.

[MultiTroll]

Still won't play meaningful minutes, sadly.
Yep. I've got a bad feeling that Pop will not be able to get over himself and play Bertie. LMA goes 6-21 as ball movement dies in a 2nd Round exit.


Future all-star.
He is. His game has so many strengths.

[picnroll]

Was sitting behind the Spurs bench and during two time outs in the huddle Pop spent nearly the whole time reaming Bertans a new one for missed assignments or dumb plays. Then toward the end Bertans drew a charge and Pop gave him a big thumbs up. Many would say that's Pop being a jerk but to me it says Pop has expectations of Bertans being an important piece going forward, probably next year though.

[BillMc]

Was sitting behind the Spurs bench and during two time outs in the huddle Pop spent nearly the whole time reaming Bertans a new one for missed assignments or dumb plays. Then toward the end Bertans drew a charge and Pop gave him a big thumbs up. Many would say that's Pop being a jerk but to me it says Pop has expectations of Bertans being an important piece going forward, probably next year though.

Well said. Pop is teaching. If he stops screaming at you, that's when you worry.

[dabom]

I don't mind Pop coaching. I do mind players being pussies for 2 whole minutes. I would never see that from Tim or any other spur. Maybe a lil yell from tony or manu but that's it.

[BillMc]

I don't mind Pop coaching. I do mind players being pussies for 2 whole minutes. I would never see that from Tim or any other spur. Maybe a lil yell from tony or manu but that's it.

Are you talking about Davis? Or Pau? Or whom?

[dabom]

Pau

[BillMc]

Pau
Yeah

[ceperez]

Put him on the Warriors or Rockets (or Cavs!) and he'd easily have 100+ by now.

So true. Spurs do all the hard work to get a high percentage shot, yet the Warriors and Rockets chuck out 3 point shots at every opportunity. They just need to be slightly lucky and they become tough to beat.

Like one of the plays I hate, Pau finds himself on the 3 point line, yet he choses to drive in traffic rather than taking the 3 point shot.

[sasaint]

Was sitting behind the Spurs bench and during two time outs in the huddle Pop spent nearly the whole time reaming Bertans a new one for missed assignments or dumb plays. Then toward the end Bertans drew a charge and Pop gave him a big thumbs up. Many would say that's Pop being a jerk but to me it says Pop has expectations of Bertans being an important piece going forward, probably next year though.

Hopefully this season, with LMA apparently out for an extended period. Pop HAS TO HAVE thick-skinned players who will respond to Pop's histrionics. I think the fear is that Pau the Prima Donna will respond to Pop's ass-chewing with a pouting fit that will render him an even softer player until he comes back around.

[sasaint]

So true. Spurs do all the hard work to get a high percentage shot, yet the Warriors and Rockets chuck out 3 point shots at every opportunity. They just need to be slightly lucky and they become tough to beat.

Like one of the plays I hate, Pau finds himself on the 3 point line, yet he choses to drive in traffic rather than taking the 3 point shot.

Why pick on Pau? You could say the same of Juice and Kyle - heck, often LMA and even Danny. Spurs don't rank 29th in 3-point attempts for their failure to generate good looks.

[MultiTroll]

Was sitting behind the Spurs bench and during two time outs in the huddle Pop spent nearly the whole time reaming Bertans
After Pau threw the pass away, what the hell was that all about?

[spurraider21]

love bertans... my favorite overseas prospect since splitter... but i dont see him as an allstar. i see him as a super role player. he's a good shot-blocker, but overall not a good defender. offensively he has talents but so far hasn't really shown much ability to create his own shot, nor did he really show that too often over in europe.

albeit at a different position, his offense reminds me of belinelli, in that he's more than simply a spot up shooter, he can also make plays off the dribble when a defender closes out, and he's shown he's a good passer too off the drive, in that "secondary playmaker" role marco thrived in.

it's true that since he's 6'10, and it makes him more dangerous, but i don't see him being an all star. still, hope he's a spur for a long time, will be a great weapon

[MultiTroll]

LMA back tonight.
Does this mean the end of Bertie? :depressed:pop::depressed

[BillMc]

LMA back tonight.
Does this mean the end of Bertie? :depressed:pop::depressed

Are you saying they forced Davis to give a heart transplant? :lol

Kind of like the liver downer in Python's Meaning of Life.

[MultiTroll]

Are you saying they forced Davis to give a heart transplant? :lol

Kind of like the liver downer in Python's Meaning of Life.
:lol
Anytime I smell something that is going to derail a potential Championship my sensors go off.
I just don't want to be witnessing "LMA and Tony Parker combining for 12-42 as the OKC Westchucks (or other) eliminate the Spurs 4-2. Davis Bertans averaged 30 seconds per game under HOF coach Greg Popper."

We've seen stretches of The Beautiful Game these past few weeks. Bertie was a part of it. I'm not buying that we have to do the half court no passing game.

[Chinook]

He can't defend the position to save his life, but he should come off the bench ahead of Simmons. I absolutely shutter when thinking about a Mills/Manu/Bertans/Lee/Gasol bench checking anyone, but you do what you have to do.

[Drom John]

841471608711610369

[MultiTroll]

Blazers loss:

Bertans DNP
Aldridge 7-21 until a couple of spoon fed assists for dunks under the basket.

Nurkic owning the paint in the 4th qtr as CIA Pop went with LMA as the lone big.

[Keepin' it real]

Still won't play meaningful minutes, sadly.

DNP ...

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder185/60118185.jpg

[Budkin]

It wouldn't be fair if he played.

[SAGirl]

For the Bertans fans:
found this translation/summary of an interview he gave in latvian:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e-ouYf5OSU

Davis starts by answering about the playtime he gets, especially lately: says he plays more than he actually expected before season.

Says the area he needs most improvement in is rebounds/defense is something he can always improve on.

About not firing away whenever he gets the ball – feels like he has to get into rhythm, if been sitting for 3/4. Says he’s always hated losing, so the Spurs mindset fits him perfectly.

Doesn’t expect to play much in the playoffs, but feels like he has to stay ready for short bursts, when extra scoring necessary.

On Pop: usual rookie answer about Pop being the most serious, authoritative coach. Has been learning from Monty Williams about paint play. Is especially excited about playoffs, opportunity to be part of a championship in his first season.

Says Mills and Manu have been helping him get acquainted, are his off-court buddies, on road trips. Manu always chooses the place to eat, since he’s been around. Says he enjoys the Latvian support, knows a lot of people get up early to watch him play. BillMc

Some words about the NT: wants to play, but will see how the season ends, evaluate his physical condition and health, and regard what RC and Pop says.
Hopes he can stay with the Spurs for a long time, hopes he doesn’t get traded. Talks some about Porzee, said Kris has said he’d really like to play in the playoffs..
Says he gets to watch his brother, Dairis, play in the Euroleague, since most of the games are on at around noon time in Texas(so right after morning practice).
That’s all, folks.

[Fireball]

really like the guy but he did not deliver in his limited minutes ... his season is over if nobody gets injured ... but I have a good feeling regarding his 2nd year

[MultiTroll]

0 minutes. :rolleyes
Sure glad we got Porker 24 minutes tho vs Warriors.

[jyra]

Good read: Humble beginning in Latvia set Spurs’ Bertans on path to NBA (http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Humble-beginning-in-Latvia-set-Spurs-Bertans-11030211.php?t=c11165753ac6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium)

[MultiTroll]

Good read: Humble beginning in Latvia set Spurs’ Bertans on path to NBA (http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Humble-beginning-in-Latvia-set-Spurs-Bertans-11030211.php?t=c11165753ac6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium)
Aw crap: "Bertans’ journey to the NBA included twice blowing out the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee."
Could this be a reasonable explanation why Cementhead limits his minutes so much?
Naw.

[MultiTroll]

“He’s a really well-rounded player who is going to have a great future. He just needs minutes and experience.” -Gregg CIA Pop.

Isn't this what he said about Boban as we closed in on the 2016 playoffs? :depressed

[SAGirl]

“He’s a really well-rounded player who is going to have a great future. He just needs minutes and experience.” -Gregg CIA Pop.

Isn't this what he said about Boban as we closed in on the 2016 playoffs? :depressed
Yes something similar. I am not expecting Davis to play much in the playoffs except in adversity situations.

[ace3g]

849801439337512960

[MaNu4Tres]

He should get all of Anderson/Simmons minutes at the back up SF in the playoffs because he's the better player than both, but it won't happen. Surprised Pop finally played him at the position he mainly played overseas tonight.

[ace3g]

849811916679729152

[BillMc]

849811916679729152
:toast

[UZER]

849811916679729152


"Bertans is the only rookie to hit 60 3s AND comb his hair to the left."

Who gives a shit. I hate random stuff like this.

[ace3g]

850532909920395264

[Robz4000]

So much better than Bonner

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5HITZbktjY

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5HITZbktjY
If Pop would pair him with a pg with any vision instead of Simmons and Murray, he'd get even more wide open looks. Unfortunately, those two guards have tunnel vision at times.

[MaNu4Tres]

I really wish Pop would play him at the back up wing next to Manu and Patty in the playoffs.

[CGD]

Underrated passer/playmaker too. I like the small ball possibilities with him and Leonard too.

[Seventyniner]

I really wish Pop would play him at the back up wing next to Manu and Patty in the playoffs.

It can work against the Grizz but Bertans would get eaten alive on D vs the Rockets and Warriors SFs. He doesn't have the right kind of quickness to guard large sections of the 3 point line.

[TheDoctor]

850532909920395264
How Tony Parker must be serving the french fries in his Food Truck.

http://cdn-img.health.com/sites/default/files/styles/main/public/to-much-salt-400x400.jpg

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[MaNu4Tres]

It can work against the Grizz but Bertans would get eaten alive on D vs the Rockets and Warriors SFs. He doesn't have the right kind of quickness to guard large sections of the 3 point line.

That's an exaggeration.

I've watched him pretty closely all damn year and most of the time when he's been switched on a perimeter player, he's held his own for the most part -- staying in front of his man and contesting. He's just as quick, if not quicker on his feet than Kyle Anderson.

[apalisoc_9]

[/B]
That's an exaggeration.

I've watched him pretty closely all damn year and most of the time when he's been switched on a perimeter player, he's held his own for the most part -- staying in front of his man and contesting. He's just as quick, if not quicker on his feet than Kyle Anderson.

Maybe, but I doubt that's optimal for San Antonio. It's extremely unlikeley he sees minutes at the 3 since realisticly Green-Leonard already take about 38 of those.

Pop probably opts for kyle because he isnt a mistake Prone on D and is a better fit with gasol and lee. They usually need three guys that can handle a pick and roll offensivley since the ball swings.

[MaNu4Tres]

Maybe, but I doubt that's optimal for San Antonio. It's extremely unlikeley he sees minutes at the 3 since realisticly Green-Leonard already take about 38 of those.

Pop probably opts for bertans because he isnt a mistake Prone on D and is a better fit with gasol and lee. They usually need three guys that can handle a pick and roll offensivley since the ball swings.

I understand Kawhi and Green get an uptick in minutes in playoffs but there's still a role for the 4th wing depending on the game ( is it competitive, is it a game 5 with a 2-2 series at stake?, Is there a 10 point lead? is there a 20 point lead?). All those variables play a part in the minutes for the 4th wing. That being said, Bertans' IQ and athleticism on the defensive end is underrated. He's very close to Anderson defensively, and at the same time, he is miles ahead of Kyle on offense. In this sense, he's a better player and a better fit next to Manu and Patty off the bench IMO.

[Seventyniner]

[/B]
That's an exaggeration.

I've watched him pretty closely all damn year and most of the time when he's been switched on a perimeter player, he's held his own for the most part -- staying in front of his man and contesting. He's just as quick, if not quicker on his feet than Kyle Anderson.

Agreed here. He's also like Kyle in that he's a good enough shot blocker that getting beaten off the dribble isn't always a disaster.

Are you wanting some funky-huge Green/Leonard/Bertans/Aldridge/Gasol (Lee) lineup? No-PG lineups might be a key to advancing far given how weak that position is for the Spurs.

[jbspurs]

I understand Kawhi and Green get an uptick in minutes in playoffs but there's still a role for the 4th wing depending on the game ( is it competitive, is it a game 5 with a 2-2 series at stake?, Is there a 10 point lead? is there a 20 point lead?). All those variables play a part in the minutes for the 4th wing. That being said, Bertans' IQ and athleticism on the defensive end is underrated. He's very close to Anderson defensively, and at the same time, he is miles ahead of Kyle on offense. In this sense, he's a better player and a better fit next to Manu and Patty off the bench IMO.


I agree! IMO, Kyle offensive game is more for regular season, where defense are more relax compared to playoffs defense. I think Bertans quickness and more consistent outside shooting compared to Kyle's will be a factor come playoffs.

[jbspurs]

Agreed here. He's also like Kyle in that he's a good enough shot blocker that getting beaten off the dribble isn't always a disaster.

Are you wanting some funky-huge Green/Leonard/Bertans/Aldridge/Gasol (Lee) lineup? No-PG lineups might be a key to advancing far given how weak that position is for the Spurs.


Manu can play point

[MaNu4Tres]

Agreed here. He's also like Kyle in that he's a good enough shot blocker that getting beaten off the dribble isn't always a disaster.

Are you wanting some funky-huge Green/Leonard/Bertans/Aldridge/Gasol (Lee) lineup? No-PG lineups might be a key to advancing far given how weak that position is for the Spurs.

In stints I would like to see something like that. Especially against the Warriors or Rockets. Those two teams will exploit Parker and Mills all night if not. I think two 5 minute stints a game of lineups that don't consist of Patty or Parker would be a way to optimize the chance at getting stops consistently. We will see how that plays out if/when Spurs get past Memphis.

[UZER]

Guys, if you don't know yet...


These playoffs aren't for him.

:pop:

[SAGirl]

I understand Kawhi and Green get an uptick in minutes in playoffs but there's still a role for the 4th wing depending on the game ( is it competitive, is it a game 5 with a 2-2 series at stake?, Is there a 10 point lead? is there a 20 point lead?). All those variables play a part in the minutes for the 4th wing. That being said, Bertans' IQ and athleticism on the defensive end is underrated. He's very close to Anderson defensively, and at the same time, he is miles ahead of Kyle on offense. In this sense, he's a better player and a better fit next to Manu and Patty off the bench IMO.
Not going to happen. He's played all season as a stretch 4 and been great at that spot. If he plays, that is the spot we will see him at.

[MaNu4Tres]

Not going to happen. He's played all season as a stretch 4 and been great at that spot. If he plays, that is the spot we will see him at.

I know it won't happen. However, it would happen if it were up to me. That's all I'm saying. The premise of the take was based on my perspective and what I'd want. It wasn't what Pop thinks or what Pop is going to do. Pop prefers the rookies take their time to ease into permanent roles by year 2, only if the depth is there with proven players who have respectful sweat equity. The rookies Pop has thrown in the fire ( Parker), or inserted in the rotation immediately (Kawhi) was due to their lack of depth at the positions.

Overall, Bertans is a much larger threat offensively than both Simmons and Anderson and Bertans is not a liability defensively.

Bertans is the better player and better prospect than both. I'd play him over both players at the back up SF.

[SAGirl]

I know it won't happen. However, it would happen if it were up to me. That's all I'm saying. The premise of the take was based on my perspective and what I'd want. It wasn't what Pop thinks or what Pop is going to do. Pop prefers the rookies take their time to ease into permanent roles by year 2, only if the depth is there with proven players who have respectful sweat equity. The rookies Pop has thrown in the fire ( Parker), or inserted in the rotation immediately (Kawhi) was due to their lack of depth at the positions.

Overall, Bertans is a much larger threat offensively than both Simmons and Anderson and Bertans is not a liability defensively.

Bertans is the better player and better prospect than both. I'd play him over both players at the back up SF.
Not going to argue on the merits of that bc I have only seen Bertans as a 4 and I cannot judge him as a 3 when he hasn't played that all season. He's a great shooter, but that spot entails not just the shooting, but ballhandling and playmaking. He's only acted as a pop or roller (very rare, as he pops a lot, but has rolled on ocassion as he's fast an athletic.) Just the way he's played I really cannot judge him or say he's better than anybody at the 3. Not having seen him play that spot all season except one blowout against the Lakers that was nothing to write home about, I don't even consider it.

Simmons may get those minutes as he has all season. I think Pop inserting Anderson lately in the rotation was well deserved for him. He's been solid when given chances and Simmons was throwing his own opportunities away with really bad games until recently. IMO, it was a to pressure Simmons to get his head out of his ass and start playing better. Even though IMO, Simmons is the worst player of the 3. He may be in a very short leash all things considered.

I hope Davis gets his chances, but it will be as a 4... Hopefully he can have positive impact when his number is called.

[ceperez]

Not going to argue on the merits of that bc I have only seen Bertans as a 4 and I cannot judge him as a 3 when he hasn't played that all season. He's a great shooter, but that spot entails not just the shooting, but ballhandling and playmaking. He's only acted as a pop or roller (very rare, as he pops a lot, but has rolled on ocassion as he's fast an athletic.) Just the way he's played I really cannot judge him or say he's better than anybody at the 3. Not having seen him play that spot all season except one blowout against the Lakers that was nothing to write home about, I don't even consider it.

Simmons may get those minutes as he has all season. I think Pop inserting Anderson lately in the rotation was well deserved for him. He's been solid when given chances and Simmons was throwing his own opportunities away with really bad games until recently. IMO, it was a to pressure Simmons to get his head out of his ass and start playing better. Even though IMO, Simmons is the worst player of the 3. He may be in a very short leash all things considered.

I hope Davis gets his chances, but it will be as a 4... Hopefully he can have positive impact when his number is called.

Spurs are in deep trouble against the Warriors and the Rockets. These two teams are going to to small ball on us and our bigs aren't going to be able to exploit that situation. Even worse, our smallish guards (patty and tony) are going to be eaten alive.

Unless they figure out how to have a team out there with the requisite quickness and size, we are in for a very short playoff season.

[BillMc]

Spurs are in deep trouble against the Warriors and the Rockets. These two teams are going to to small ball on us and our bigs aren't going to be able to exploit that situation. Even worse, our smallish guards (patty and tony) are going to be eaten alive.

Unless they figure out how to have a team out there with the requisite quickness and size, we are in for a very short playoff season.

Do you really fear a D'Antoni defense over a full playoff series? Spurs win the series in 6.

[MaNu4Tres]

Not going to argue on the merits of that bc I have only seen Bertans as a 4 and I cannot judge him as a 3 when he hasn't played that all season. He's a great shooter, but that spot entails not just the shooting, but ballhandling and playmaking. He's only acted as a pop or roller (very rare, as he pops a lot, but has rolled on ocassion as he's fast an athletic.) Just the way he's played I really cannot judge him or say he's better than anybody at the 3. Not having seen him play that spot all season except one blowout against the Lakers that was nothing to write home about, I don't even consider it.

Simmons may get those minutes as he has all season. I think Pop inserting Anderson lately in the rotation was well deserved for him. He's been solid when given chances and Simmons was throwing his own opportunities away with really bad games until recently. IMO, it was a to pressure Simmons to get his head out of his ass and start playing better. Even though IMO, Simmons is the worst player of the 3. He may be in a very short leash all things considered.

I hope Davis gets his chances, but it will be as a 4... Hopefully he can have positive impact when his number is called.

You're looking at the wrong things then. It's not about the labels, its about the skill sets and Bertans commands the defense to acknowledge him when he's spotting up away from the strong side action. At the same time, when the defense does close out strong, Bertans is much more fluid and decisive from this triple threat position, pump faking and driving and dishing -- he usually makes the right pass more often than not and he's very quick from point a to point B unlike Anderson and Simmons who are hesitant and herk and jerk their way from Point A to point B. Bertans is much more fluid in regards to this skillset and this skillset is the prime skill set of a wing or a small forward who is not an initiator or creator ( something Simmons and Anderson are not --- unless they have the ball in a possession that's deep in the shot clock). And Anderson and Simmons' drive and dish effectiveness is hindered by their inability to garner hard close outs that bend the defense. Smart defenses will acknowledge them but they'll never run out and contest strongly -- which would give them an easier path to break them down off the dribble (if the smart teams did run out but they don't).

As far as their abilities to initiate, sure they have an ability to dribble and initiate in small stints vs. bad defenses or in lop sided victories, but so can Bertans and so can Forbes but neither of the 4 guys will be the prime initiators or the Manu off the bench. Although Forbes looked very good last night being the ball handler in the PnR, because he played under control with efficient movements and made the right pass to the open guy consistently -- which was a pleasant surprise).

Even if Bertans has played a 4, he's shown the skill set of a SF throughout the whole season. I look at skill sets and aspects within those skill sets, I don't look at labels. Bertans has the skill set to play the SF better than SImmons and Anderson in my opinion.

Does Bertans Pick and Pop? Sure he does when he plays the four but its not a staple, its just a wrinkle. Spurs optimize spacing and are at their best when its the 1-5, 2-5, or 3-5 PnR with Bertans spotting up on the weak-side with the 5 ( Dedmon, Lee or Gasol) rolling after the pick. That is the primary PnR they run when Bertans is on the floor.

Bertans has the skill set to be more effective than Simmons and Anderson at the wing. I could give a crap about labels.

[SAGirl]

You're looking at the wrong things then. It's not about the labels, its about the skill sets and Bertans commands the defense to acknowledge him when he's spotting up away from the strong side action. At the same time, when the defense does close out strong, Bertans is much more fluid and decisive from this triple threat position, pump faking and driving and dishing -- he usually makes the right pass more often than not and he's very quick from point a to point B unlike Anderson and Simmons who are hesitant and herk and jerk their way from Point A to point B. Bertans is much more fluid in regards to this skillset and this skillset is the prime skill set of a wing or a small forward who is not an initiator or creator ( something Simmons and Anderson are not --- unless they have the ball in a possession that's deep in the shot clock). And Anderson and Simmons' drive and dish effectiveness is hindered by their inability to garner hard close outs that bend the defense. Smart defenses will acknowledge them but they'll never run out and contest strongly -- which would give them an easier path to break them down off the dribble (if the smart teams did run out but they don't).

As far as their abilities to initiate, sure they have an ability to dribble and initiate in small stints vs. bad defenses or in lop sided victories, but so can Bertans and so can Forbes but neither of the 4 guys will be the prime initiators or the Manu off the bench. Although Forbes looked very good last night being the ball handler in the PnR, because he played under control with efficient movements and made the right pass to the open guy consistently -- which was a pleasant surprise).

Even if Bertans has played a 4, he's shown the skill set of a SF throughout the whole season. I look at skill sets and aspects within those skill sets, I don't look at labels. Bertans has the skill set to play the SF better than SImmons and Anderson in my opinion.

Does Bertans Pick and Pop? Sure he does when he plays the four but its not a staple, its just a wrinkle. Spurs optimize spacing and are at their best when its the 1-5, 2-5, or 3-5 PnR with Bertans spotting up on the weak-side with the 5 ( Dedmon, Lee or Gasol) rolling after the pick. That is the primary PnR they run when Bertans is on the floor.

Bertans has the skill set to be more effective than Simmons and Anderson at the wing. I could give a crap about labels.
IAppreciate the discussion and elaboration on your explanation, which is not cliche in the least.
Based on recent play, Simmons is Pop's guy.
He really has been all season at that spot, struggles and all and those who would argue the Spurs have not developed him well are wrong (If I remember correctly Mid made such an argument at some point, I just didn't care to debate about Simmons tbh. The reality is that he's gotten every chance this season to develop as a playmaker bc Manu is declined and Mills is lacking. He clearly has deficiencies, but he's had the role all season and I don't expect that to change.

I feel like Pop didn't really find the team's best identity this season bc rookies typically get shafted by him anyways. He's slow to trust and truth be told, initially the Ded-Lee combo was too good to mess up and Simmons seemed to be heading in the right directon. Why mess with that?

Now the situation is different. I'd like to see him, but I doubt it. I specially doubt Pop will throw him in a spot he hasn't played all season, etc. On top of already being reluctant to even play him at the spot he has indeed played him all season.

Tough to tell. I really do appreciate what he brings and would like to see him more.

[Atl Spur]

I honestly feel pop is missing the boat on Davis; he can play any role we feel Kyle can. KYLE ANDERSON is too soft and too passive to compete at this level

[MultiTroll]

Is there a coach in the league who would not play Bertans in the playoffs?

[sasaint]

Is there a coach in the league who would not play Bertans in the playoffs?

Pop - except in garbage time.

:pop: These playoffs are not for him.

[playbonner15]

I agree. The team needs a ginger out there

[BillMc]

Porzingis is so frustrated with the Knicks he's skipping meetings. (Nice job Phil)
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19160908/frustrated-kristaps-porzingis-skips-exit-meetings-new-york-knicks-management



Jackson was asked Friday whether any personnel move, including those involving a trade of Porzingis, is "off the table" this offseason.
"Everything has got to be possible, and we have to make sure that if people have something to say, we listen to it, we examine it," Jackson said before complimenting Porzingis for his development this season.

I knew this would happen. Man, I wish we could add a second Latvian to our team. Wonder what we could give Phil to get him realistically. Pairing KP, Kawhi and (maybe) Murray for the next decade could be sweet.

[Play Boban]

Porzingis is so frustrated with the Knicks he's skipping meetings. (Nice job Phil)
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19160908/frustrated-kristaps-porzingis-skips-exit-meetings-new-york-knicks-management




I knew this would happen. Man, I wish we could add a second Latvian to our team. Wonder what we could give Phil to get him realistically.

LA for him, straight up. Maybe throw in Porker to sweeten the deal.

[BillMc]

LA for him, straight up. Maybe throw in Porker to sweeten the deal.

Salaries wouldn't work. We'd have to take back some crappy Knicks players in return.

[MultiTroll]

LA for him, straight up. Maybe throw in Porker to sweeten the deal.

BillMc
Salaries wouldn't work. We'd have to take back some crappy Knicks players in return.

PZinger 4.5 Courtney Lee 11.7 Kyle O'Quinn 4 / LMA 22

Would Phildo go for that?
I dunno he and Pop don't like each other. Would Phil veto out of spite or would Knicks simply get better offers?

[sasaint]

Salaries wouldn't work. We'd have to take back some crappy Knicks players in return.

And unfortunately the trade machine won't really work on this trade, with the some of the Spurs' trade assets having options - team or player. But with Porzingis having such a friendly contract, I believe we would need to involve a third team, as well as assume a bad contract, as you indicate.

[sasaint]

BillMc
PZinger 4.5 Courtney Lee 11.7 Kyle O'Quinn 4 / LMA 22

Would Phildo go for that?
I dunno he and Pop don't like each other. Would Phil veto out of spite or would Knicks simply get better offers?

I believe we would need to sweeten the pot with picks. Imho Aldridge's value has declined pretty seriously since his signing with the Spurs.

[MultiTroll]

I believe we would need to sweeten the pot with picks. Imho Aldridge's value has declined pretty seriously since his signing with the Spurs.
Yes.
If Patty (or Green?) would go microwave again that would extremely sweeten his trade value.
Of course I would hate to trade Patty if he did turn in a Microwave 2014 type performance in another 'Chip.
Meh that's a big if.

[BillMc]

BillMc
PZinger 4.5 Courtney Lee 11.7 Kyle O'Quinn 4 / LMA 22

Would Phildo go for that?
I dunno he and Pop don't like each other. Would Phil veto out of spite or would Knicks simply get better offers?


Yes.
If Patty (or Green?) would go microwave again that would extremely sweeten his trade value.
Of course I would hate to trade Patty if he did turn in a Microwave 2014 type performance in another 'Chip.
Meh that's a big if.

I don't know. We'd definitely have to surrender a #1 pick (which given it would be in the late 20's, I'd be cool with).


I believe we would need to sweeten the pot with picks. Imho Aldridge's value has declined pretty seriously since his signing with the Spurs.

Though not entirely fair to LMA, I agree this perception is true. His age (31) also doesn't make him a centerpiece for a perpetually rebuilding Knicks team. I could see Phil wanting LMA for Melo, but the Spurs wouldn't want that.

As you say a third team would have to be involved.

It's a shame if KP doesn't reach his full potential because of Knicks chaos. What the Spurs staff could potentially do with him, is worth a relatively risky move.

[sasaint]

I don't know. We'd definitely have to surrender a #1 pick (which given it would be in the late 20's, I'd be cool with).



Though not entirely fair to LMA, I agree this perception is true. His age (31) also doesn't make him a centerpiece for a perpetually rebuilding Knicks team. I could see Phil wanting LMA for Melo, but the Spurs wouldn't want that.

As you say a third team would have to be involved.

It's a shame if KP doesn't reach his full potential because of Knicks chaos. What the Spurs staff could potentially do with him, is worth a relatively risky move.

Agree with all you said - especially with the risky move. it was Timmy's loyalty to the Spurs that enabled the team to make low risk moves and yet consistently compete for titles. Without his greatness and loyalty, I share your opinion that the team will now have to take greater risks than before to compete for the LOB. However, I have concerns that PATFO, having become accustomed to the luxury of being able to make low-risk moves, has the flexibility or perspicacity to adapt to Timmy's absence and make a higher risk move. It would sure be great to have Porzingis in a Spurs uniform!

[BillMc]

Agree with all you said - especially with the risky move. it was Timmy's loyalty to the Spurs that enabled the team to make low risk moves and yet consistently compete for titles. Without his greatness and loyalty, I share your opinion that the team will now have to take greater risks than before to compete for the LOB. However, I have concerns that PATFO, having become accustomed to the luxury of being able to make low-risk moves, has the flexibility or perspicacity to adapt to Timmy's absence and make a higher risk move. It would sure be great to have Porzingis in a Spurs uniform!

I 100% agree they should take this risk but I don't believe in general they've been too conservative. I mean trading Hill, a big part of their team, for an unproven Kawhi was a big risk (one that paid out). And drafting overseas players who may have never come over to this country was also risky especially when it was fairly unprecedented back in the day. I'm not sure what risks you feel the PATFOs have proven gun shy upon. What aggressive actions would you have them take? Most such risks balloon your payroll and then required drastic actions to undo that problem. (Look at the Nets.)

Timmy certainly was a security blanket. And all those cheap deals he and others gave us, are going to get only rarer with new personnel who don't have the same commitment to the program. So, this I most certainly agree upon.

[cd021]

There is zero reason for the Knicks to move 3-6 Latvia. He is a 2nd year player that is frustrated. The Knicks still have all the advantages in place to keep him for the next six year or so. They could still move Melo, possibly in a deal involving Kevin Love and flip Courtney Lee to a playoff team for a 1st rounder to jump start the rebuild, he is on a decent contract, pretty good defender and an excellent 3pt shooter.

[sasaint]

I 100% agree they should take this risk but I don't believe in general they've been too conservative. I mean trading Hill, a big part of their team, for an unproven Kawhi was a big risk (one that paid out). And drafting overseas players who may have never come over to this country was also risky especially when it was fairly unprecedented back in the day. I'm not sure what risks you feel the PATFOs have proven gun shy upon. What aggressive actions would you have them take? Most such risks balloon your payroll and then required drastic actions to undo that problem. (Look at the Nets.)

Timmy certainly was a security blanket. And all those cheap deals he and others gave us, are going to get only rarer with new personnel who don't have the same commitment to the program. So, this I most certainly agree upon.

The Hill trade was certainly very bold - and also extremely rare. I think it proves my point precisely by being the exception not the rule. How many other draft day moves do you remember? The euro picks started out as bold, but seemingly became rather rote means of preserving cap space in more recent years.

[cd98]

Dude was a steal. He's still learning the game and we are all scared of another ACL tear, but barring bad luck, he is the perfect stretch floor once he adds a bit more muscle.

[daslicer]

Krsitap will never leave New York. Players don't leave a big market like LA or NYC unless they are playing with a toxic person like Kobe.

[MultiTroll]

Well at least Crater got him some minutes vs Memphis in Game 3.

Bertie looks comfortable out there so I see no reason to hold him back.

[playbonner15]

This series needs more Bertans (and Murray and Simmons)

[SAGirl]

“He’s not awed by anything,” Popovich said of the 24-year-old Latvian. “It doesn’t matter if it’s playoffs or not. He’s been in a lot of big games overseas, so he’s pretty much a veteran.”
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-haven-t-lost-faith-in-slumping-Ginobili-11095578.php?t=7dac31d49ec6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium#photo-12784662
:tu
good vote of confidence from Pop.
We shall see if he plays tonight I think he will.

[apalisoc_9]

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-haven-t-lost-faith-in-slumping-Ginobili-11095578.php?t=7dac31d49ec6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium#photo-12784662
:tu
good vote of confidence from Pop.
We shall see if he plays tonight I think he will.

He's playong over 20. Heard he was starting. Who knows.

[ace3g]

:bobo here's to him hopefully playing 20 minutes tonight.

[MultiTroll]

http://s.tf.rs/2012/11/01/bertans.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiwnqLS5cDTAhUIyGMKHan9AUgQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poundingtherock.com%2F2016%2F 6%2F12%2F11912142%2Fdavis-bertans-contract-buyout-spurs&psig=AFQjCNHKE2qVoAYW38ZnuyP5onWp2E69XQ&ust=1493250460189887)

Bertie flashing gang signs to let us know he is ready.

[MultiTroll]

I'm satisfied with Berties Game 5 Memphis performance.
14 minutes but got in early in the 1st qtr.
Never mind the 1-5, at least two of those were garbage time shot clock running out heaves after he got the ball late.
Looked comfortable, good D again as he definitely disrupts.
A couple of the foul calls looked like b.s., especially against Fat Gasol but oh well.

[Yuixafun]

Yo he also drew zbo away fron the paint, which opened up driving lanes... I also saw a little bit of Splitter in him, making plays when he cut or dove. Line ups with Bertans felt more lively and active. Spurs had way better synergy and chemistry. I wad relieved and joyful.

[spurraider21]

as long as bertans is holding his own on D, he should be getting minutes. the amount of room kawhi had to operate when he was on the floor was enough of a benefit. memphis defenders were staying on him, opening up a lot of room.

barely any of his attempts were impactful, he shot a few in garbage minutes and didn't make them. he could be really important in future rounds if he earns pop's confidence

[SAGirl]

Had a good game. I think he was a difference maker even though he was off. He did provide spacing, energy and made plays on ad as well. He's a very high IQ player. Good game!

[ace3g]

I always mentioned during the regular season when he started to get "consistent" minutes, the Spurs seemed to run motion offense (beautiful game) more often. I still would like Pop to use him like Belinelli and run him off screens. He seemed to have a lot of success from that over in Europe.

[cutewizard]

Bertans =========== :bobo

[xellos88330]

Bertans is suprising me on defense. That is a very welcome sight! If he can defend the 4 like this consistently, then I don't see why he doesn't see more time.

[cd98]

TBH, I'm not seeing a series where he should be glued to the bench. I think the hesitancy is that he has had some horrible turnovers in extended minutes. But his presence opens the court up on offense, and his defense, if not bruising, is at least active.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpxhIIU4FGU

[SpurOutofTownFan]

this is a player that needs to be in the roster next year but Pop needs to give him playing time, otherwise it's very hard to develop. I think he's shown more positive than negative in his reduced role lately

[SAGirl]

Davis may play international ball for the Latvian national team if permission granted from the Spurs (I suspect potential summer league commitments must be waived. I remember there was a similar issue with Nando De Colo back in the day).
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/If-Spurs-consent-Davis-Bertans-likely-to-play-11219974.php

Bertans was one of 22 players selected to Latvia’s preliminary squad for FIBA (http://www.mysanantonio.com/search/?action=search&channel=sports%2Fspurs&inlineLink=1&searchindex=solr&query=%22FIBA%22)'s upcoming Eurobasket competition, contested biannually by men’s national teams within the governing organization’s European zone. Games will be played in Finland, Israel, Romania, and Turkey from Aug. 31 to Sep. 17.


Latvia is scheduled to begin training camp on July 17 in Riga, which would conflict with Bertans’ participation in the NBA (http://www.mysanantonio.com/search/?action=search&channel=sports%2Fspurs&inlineLink=1&searchindex=solr&query=%22NBA%22)’s annual Las Vegas summer league. The Spurs reportedly have not yet given the 24-year-old their blessing to play for his country.

[UZER]

Davis may play international ball for the Latvian national team if permission granted from the Spurs (I suspect potential summer league commitments must be waived. I remember there was a similar issue with Nando De Colo back in the day).
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/If-Spurs-consent-Davis-Bertans-likely-to-play-11219974.php

Of course he wants to play. He hasn't played any meaningful basketball in a year.

[SAGirl]

someone took the trouble to translate a full interview Davis gave in Latvian.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/6/14/15799036/davis-bertans-interview-june-12


RO: You made it to the playoffs - can you compare the play in the postseason and during the regular season, especially once you knew you'd clinched the 2nd seed.
DB: It was the same for me, I looked at each game as the same, regular season or postseason. But the difference in intensity, especially for seasoned players is clearly visible. They turn it up really fast. Shoving and punching in the paint becomes a part of the game.

RO: Were you very disappointed in the way WCF turned out or did you realize as a team that there's not much hope in beating the Warriors?
DB: We definitely expected to compete and could've won as long as everyone would've been healthy. I think the way we played in game 1 up until the Leonard injury - we had that game in our pocket. And then everything went downhill. And then game 2. Before that injury(Leonard) we felt we can win the series.

[bic50]

this is a player that needs to be in the roster next year but Pop needs to give him playing time, otherwise it's very hard to develop. I think he's shown more positive than negative in his reduced role lately

[ace3g]

Looks like Bertans got married:

https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/20589448_121462175150031_2485275700479655936_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQKWKJD5pZ/?hl=en&taken-by=dbertans_42

[Chinook]

That's random, but felicidades, Davis.

[TheDoctor]

Looks like Bertans got married:

https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/20589448_121462175150031_2485275700479655936_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQKWKJD5pZ/?hl=en&taken-by=dbertans_42

Awesome tux Davis and congrats :toast

[BillMc]

Looks like Bertans got married:

https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/20589448_121462175150031_2485275700479655936_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQKWKJD5pZ/?hl=en&taken-by=dbertans_42

It's a cool photo. I know exactly where that is in Riga.

Props to Davis. :toast

[Down Under]

as long as bertans is holding his own on D, he should be getting minutes. the amount of room kawhi had to operate when he was on the floor was enough of a benefit. memphis defenders were staying on him, opening up a lot of room.

barely any of his attempts were impactful, he shot a few in garbage minutes and didn't make them. he could be really important in future rounds if he earns pop's confidence
He's probably good enough to start really, if he's playing next to Kawhi it should nullify his rebounding. The guy is a 6'10" catch and shoot player with an ultra quick release and shot 40% from 3 in his rookie year.

[SPURt]

Looks like Bertans got married:

https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/20589448_121462175150031_2485275700479655936_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQKWKJD5pZ/?hl=en&taken-by=dbertans_42
Congrats to Davis! Better not tell Parker you got married:
http://playerwiveswiki.com/hv/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Anna-Sonka-Davis-Bertans.jpg

[dabom]

Dude is lucky. Damn. :cry

[tonight...you]

Dude is lucky. Damn. :cry
You'll find someone brother...

[TimDunkem]

Looks like Bertans got married:

http://i.imgur.com/K0eBl5c.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQKWKJD5pZ/?hl=en&taken-by=dbertans_42
Congrats to Davis. Better watch out though...We have some snakes on this team that can't quell their appetite for married women...

[tonight...you]

Congrats to Davis. Better watch out though...We have some snakes on this team that can't quell their appetite for married women...
Ha ha ha!

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't know how he'll rebound if they get a divorce.

[TheDoctor]

I don't know how he'll rebound if they get a divorce.
LMFAOOOOO
https://media.tenor.com/images/2e10a057ec623fb19217a7ee7e7c8fa3/tenor.gif

[tholdren]

Dude is lucky. Damn. :cry

Wtf, that chick has bigger guns than he does. Big girl

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[dabom]

Wtf, that chick has bigger guns than he does. Big girl

She's beautiful. What is people's problem nowadays. If I didn't know better, everyone on ST married a perfect 10. :lol

[tholdren]

She's beautiful. What is people's problem nowadays. If I didn't know better, everyone on ST married a perfect 10. :lol

She was a college basketball player and 6' tall. More than likely a dude tbh

[spurs10]

She's beautiful. What is people's problem nowadays. If I didn't know better, everyone on ST married a perfect 10. :lol
Well said!

[cd021]

She's beautiful. What is people's problem nowadays. If I didn't know better, everyone on ST married a perfect 10. :lol

People on ST must be wife-ing dimes cause in the other threat someone had the nerve to insult the goddess known as Kate Upton.

[cd021]

She was a college basketball player and 6' tall. More than likely a dude tbh

Their kid is gonna be 7'8 and still won't rebound :lol

[Ice009]

This is what prompted this marriage : Tony Parker - "Davis, do you know the secret to saying the NBA and on this team for a long time? Get married!" j/k

For the record, I don't believe TP ever slept with Brent's wife. If he really did, I doubt he'd still be on the team.

[dabom]

She was a college basketball player and 6' tall. More than likely a dude tbh

Short people problems. :lol

[Down Under]

I doubt people that post dozens of times a day in a basketball forum are successful with women :lol

[tholdren]

Short people problems. :lol

Im over 6'. As far as ncaa or wnba "dimes" out there, please.

[BillMc]

I don't know how he'll rebound if they get a divorce.
:lol:toast

[BillMc]

She's beautiful. :lol

Absolutely. :toast Latvian girl.


http://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/davis-bertans-anna-sonka-5.jpg

[tholdren]

Absolutely. :toast Latvian girl.


http://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/davis-bertans-anna-sonka-5.jpg

Lol gross dude.

[ace3g]

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[bklynspursfan]

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[BillMc]

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[SPURt]

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"Cocoa on ice" is a terrible nickname and a little too close to George Gervin

[Spurtacular]

She's beautiful. What is people's problem nowadays. If I didn't know better, everyone on ST married a perfect 10. :lol

They did on paper.

[cd98]

So is this guy ever going to crack an NBA team's starting line up? I mean consistent starter? I think probably no unless there are a bunch of injuries.

[Seventyniner]

So is this guy ever going to crack an NBA team's starting line up? I mean consistent starter? I think probably no unless there are a bunch of injuries.

I think he's too much of a niche player to start, except maybe with the Rockets as a PF given their play style. He should still be a solid rotation player for years, which is pretty good for a throw-in for the Leonard/Hill trade.

[Seventyniner]

"Cocoa on ice" is a terrible nickname and a little too close to George Gervin

That nickname sounds like an insult. I was trying to think of an appropriate player for it, maybe Steph Curry?

[SPURt]

That nickname sounds like an insult. I was trying to think of an appropriate player for it, maybe Steph Curry?
It should probably go to Joel Embiid.

[cutewizard]

Hope bertans produces this year

[John B]

Davis Bertans' INCREDIBLE three-point shooting, and Russell Westbrook's triple-double led Wizards to a HUGE win over Nuggets, 130-128!


Wizards have now won 3 straight games!


D. Bertans: 35 PTS, 3 REB, 1 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 9/11 FG, 9/11 3PT, 8/8 FT
B. Beal: 25 PTS, 10 AST, 4 REB, 8/20 FG, 1/5 3PT, 8/8 FT
R. Westbrook: 12 PTS, 13 REB, 12 AST, 2 STL, 5/15 FG, 2/6 FT


J. Murray: 35 PTS, 9 REB, 6 AST, 12/24 FG, 5/10 3PT, 4/5 FT
N. Jokic: 33 PTS, 9 AST, 7 REB, 2 STL, 12/21 FG, 3/5 3PT, 6/6 FT

[John B]

Fuck Marcus Morris :bang:bang:bang

[DAF86]

Imagine Bertans on this current team. :depressed

[Fusternino]

I'd still prefer KA. But yeah we shouldn't have let our two young forwards go . . .

[Mr. Body]

Lol, one fucking game in a year where he's been trash. I mean, even Washington broadcasts talk about how he's not worth his salary in the least. Carry on with your bad selves.

[DAF86]

Lol, one fucking game in a year where he's been trash. I mean, even Washington broadcasts talk about how he's not worth his salary in the least. Carry on with your bad selves.

I'm calling bullshit untill you provide a link, tbh. These broadcasters are paid by the team, they would never shit on the organization like that. :lol

Also, Bertans has been dealing with injuries all season long, he's just now getting back to shape. I'm expecting some monster games from him coming up to level up the averages.

[Mr. Body]

I'm calling bullshit untill you provide a link, tbh. These broadcasters are paid by the team, they would never shit on the organization like that. :lol

Also, Bertans has been dealing with injuries all season long, he's just now getting back to shape. I'm expecting some monster games from him coming up to level up the averages.

I was watching WAS play on NBATV this very week and they were talking about how poor Bertans has been.

He's has a remarkably shitty year and is absolutely not worth his contract.

[DAF86]

I was watching WAS play on NBATV this very week and they were talking about how poor Bertans has been.

He's has a remarkably shitty year and is absolutely not worth his contract.

Yeeeeeah, I'm still gonna need a link to believe you, tbh. You seem to have an odd hatred towards the guy.

[Mr. Body]

Yeeeeeah, I'm still gonna need a link to believe you, tbh. You seem to have an odd hatred towards the guy.

Lol, you want me to link to a game that was played earlier this week? Go fuck yourself.

[mookie2001]

His season %s are looking like toilet water.

[horseshue]

He is playing less minutes, scoring less pts, rebs and is overall worse compared to previous season, and costs 2,5 times more. I understand the haters. But still, when was the last time a spur made 9 threes? We dont do that here.

[exstatic]

Yeeeeeah, I'm still gonna need a link to believe you, tbh. You seem to have an odd hatred towards the guy.

A link...to a broadcast...

[Mr. Body]

He is playing less minutes, scoring less pts, rebs and is overall worse compared to previous season, and costs 2,5 times more. I understand the haters. But still, when was the last time a spur made 9 threes? We dont do that here.

It's literally all he does, fling up 3 pointers. He's been terrible at it this season, but every dog has his day.

[DAF86]

A link...to a broadcast...

The other day I heard the Wizards' broadcast saying Bertans will be an all-star this season. I can't provide a link, yall will have to take my word for it.

[GAustex]

Poop got used like a rented mule by Morris and he gave up on Bertrans who he misused for the entire time-instead keeping his fav Forbes.
True that Davis is not worth the $ he is getting it still would have been nice to see if they could a swung a reasonable deal for a dead eye buster. But no the drunk ass got used again.

[DAF86]

It's literally all he does, fling up 3 pointers. He's been terrible at it this season, but every dog has his day.

You are so desperate to say the guy sucks that you disregard entire seasons of evidence of the guy being good just to nit pick a couple of games from a season that is just starting and the guy has been in and out all year long because of injuries and covid related issues. The guy is just starting to get into a rythm. Saying Bertans sucks because of what happened so far in this season is equally as retarded as saying Derrick White sucks for the same reason. It's just desperate talk from a hater that is using his small window of opportunity to shit on the guy before things go back to normal.

[Mr. Body]

You are so desperate to say the guy sucks that you disregard entire seasons of evidence of the guy being good just to nit pick a couple of games from a season that is just starting and the guy has been in and out all year long because of injuries and covid related issues. The guy is just starting to get into a rythm. Saying Bertans sucks because of what happened so far in this season is equally as retarded as saying Derrick White sucks for the same reason. It's just desperate talk from a hater that is using his small window of opportunity to shit on the guy before things go back to normal.

I mean, I get it, you get a chubby for Bertans. Everyone else has moved on and realized he's not the player you think he is and he'd a very bad fit for the Spurs right now even if he wasn't a complete turd this year.

[DAF86]

I mean, I get it, you get a chubby for Bertans. Everyone else has moved on and realized he's not the player you think he is and he'd a very bad fit for the Spurs right now even if he wasn't a complete turd this year.

Everybody is still mad as fuck we got rid of Bertans, probably even PATFO themselves. I mean, I wasn't even the one that bumped this thread. :lol