View Full Version : BBall Breakdown: How Aldridge Fits Into The Spurs Offense
benefactor
07-06-2015, 09:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcMo6g_HqM
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dabom
07-06-2015, 09:46 PM
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Mr. Body
07-06-2015, 09:50 PM
Sweet"
I know he likes to shoot from mid-range and 3P, but it's the post-up game I'm anxious to see. The Spurs need more of a steady dose of that, to get the 3P shooters the kind of open looks they were getting a few years ago. Losing Beli is a bit of a blow, but the Spurs still have a good stable of 3P shooters. Hell, Parker was lights out from 3 until the post-season.
Aldridge and West together are a mid-range nightmare that will open the paint up for some easy buckets. I'm expecting to see the Spurs' FT attempts to increase, both because they'll be fouling LMA, but also because they won't be able to pack the paint and be waiting so much.
I hope Aldridge isn't really going to be shooting a LOT more 3's, like the video says. I know he was pretty good last season, but hopefully that's not what he's here for.
monkeypunk
07-06-2015, 09:54 PM
Awesome, love Coach Nick!
azarel
07-06-2015, 09:57 PM
I know he likes to shoot from mid-range and 3P, but it's the post-up game I'm anxious to see. The Spurs need more of a steady dose of that, to get the 3P shooters the kind of open looks they were getting a few years ago. Losing Beli is a bit of a blow, but the Spurs still have a good stable of 3P shooters. Hell, Parker was lights out from 3 until the post-season.
Aldridge and West together are a mid-range nightmare that will open the paint up for some easy buckets. I'm expecting to see the Spurs' FT attempts to increase, both because they'll be fouling LMA, but also because they won't be able to pack the paint and be waiting so much.
I hope Aldridge isn't really going to be shooting a LOT more 3's, like the video says. I know he was pretty good last season, but hopefully that's not what he's here for.
yah i agree... i'm not too keen to see LMA end up like Chris Bosh jacking up 3s in Heat...
Mugen
07-06-2015, 10:01 PM
Dis nigga talking too much crap about Tiago tbh.
dabom
07-06-2015, 10:02 PM
Tiago with his fucking little hooks. :lmao
manufan10
07-06-2015, 10:02 PM
Hot damn... I'm ready for the season to start!! :hat:flag::lobt2::hungry:
SupremeGuy
07-06-2015, 10:02 PM
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Knoxxx
07-06-2015, 10:06 PM
You just have to love the all around game and smoothness Aldridge brings. Then the calling out Splitter for being so awkward LMAO.
Mugen
07-06-2015, 10:07 PM
Maybe Coach Pedo can do a breakdown of when LaMarcus let Splitter eat his lunch during the 2014 Playoffs tbh.
spursparker9
07-06-2015, 10:08 PM
Thank for posting the vid
Knoxxx
07-06-2015, 10:10 PM
2:10 mark: "One can imagine not having to watch bad Splitter misses in the lane."
RD2191
07-06-2015, 10:10 PM
Nice find, OP.
apalisoc_9
07-06-2015, 10:10 PM
Damn, I gotta start reminding people about Tiago's contribution..
Pretty sad how all these mainstream vanilla fans quickly forget one of the most important piece in 2014
sad
dabom
07-06-2015, 10:10 PM
Maybe Coach Pedo can do a breakdown of when LaMarcus let Splitter eat his lunch during the 2014 Playoffs tbh.
LMA would have won in 2013 and 2014 and 2015 in a spurs uniform. The team defense helped tiago a bunch. Defenders better than tiago: kawhi duncan green. Splitter in 2015 was a fucking vagina and an injured vagina for the playoffs. Dude was a corpse.
Wow. If that's what some guy whipped up on youtube, I'd KILL to see what the Spurs' pitch was.
Pop and the other coaches must feel like they're playing NBA2k15 dreaming up plays for these guys.
Dingle Barry
07-06-2015, 10:16 PM
Maybe Coach Pedo can do a breakdown of when LaMarcus let Splitter eat his lunch during the 2014 Playoffs tbh.
Let it/him go, bro.
InRareForm
07-06-2015, 10:27 PM
Pop has all summer to figure out how LMA will thrive. Gotta love it
DesignatedT
07-06-2015, 10:28 PM
Man Training Camp is going to be a lot different for a Pop and crew this year. I can't wait.
ElNono
07-06-2015, 10:28 PM
damn it, 4 months until season's start
Maybe Coach Pedo can do a breakdown of when LaMarcus let Splitter eat his lunch during the 2014 Playoffs tbh.
Aldridge was the MVP of the series. Not even close. Averaged double double 20/10. That's with spurs team help focused on him all series.
Splitter averaged like 7/6 I think.
Knoxxx
07-06-2015, 10:40 PM
We just swapped Splitter for Aldridge AND West. People need to stop whining about it. Splitter was awkward to watch often. At times he was good. Aldridge will always be good and West is paying $11 million to play here. Stop the Splitter whining and get a sense of humor. That hook shot of his was the worst I've ever seen, and was appropriately mentioned in the video.
We swapped splitter for aldrige, and baynes for David west. Both upgrades.
Belli and cojo gone, but had nothing to do with signing. We wouldn't have paid them that much to be third stringers. Would have lost them either way.
look_at_g_shred
07-06-2015, 10:44 PM
Fuck yeah!!
DPG21920
07-06-2015, 10:47 PM
Spurs offense is going to be wild. Especically if SA can land a decent guard/shooter. So many options with so much spacing. I really hope TP didn't decline and that is was just injuries because with this spacing he should have a mega-resurgence.
SayTown
07-06-2015, 10:47 PM
Can't Wait
Big P
07-06-2015, 10:50 PM
yah i agree... i'm not too keen to see LMA end up like Chris Bosh jacking up 3s in Heat...
He shot %35 last year, and %42.5 from the left corner 3, which was pretty much the first time in his career he started using the 3 on the regular, he's only going to get better at it and it will expand his longevity. I'm sure his 3 point shot was discussed in the meetings with Pop.
Knoxxx
07-06-2015, 10:51 PM
Don't get me wrong, I appreciated all the guys lost but Splitter lowlights are plentiful and much more fun to watch in the rear view mirror. Belli couldn't guard anyone, and though he and CoJo were gamers the money they were paid it's too bad they didn't go to contending teams because it would have hurt them.
damn it, 4 months until season's start
And we still have a bunch of roster spots to fill.
Maybe Coach Pedo can do a breakdown of when LaMarcus let Splitter eat his lunch during the 2014 Playoffs tbh.
:lol agreed. It's not like Splitter was Kwame Brown. He stopped Dirk, Griffin, Zbo, and Aldridge in the playoffs.
honestfool84
07-06-2015, 11:06 PM
Lol. Your schtick is getting old, apalisoc_9.
Lebron4MVP
07-06-2015, 11:12 PM
Spurs offense is going to be wild. Especically if SA can land a decent guard/shooter. So many options with so much spacing. I really hope TP didn't decline and that is was just injuries because with this spacing he should have a mega-resurgence.
Yeah but what about the defense? They are going to be the new suns.
HarlemHeat37
07-06-2015, 11:13 PM
Yeah but what about the defense? They are going to be the new suns.
:lol no..I don't know why people keep saying this..
Splitter is a huge defensive loss, but not enough to make the 2nd ranked D in the NBA last year fall off significantly..
1 great defensive player(Tiago), 1 average defender(Baynes) and 1 horrific defender(Beli) lost, and they aren't adding any below average defenders to replace them..not to mention everybody will be able to conserve more energy for defense with all the offensive weapons on the roster..
DPG21920
07-06-2015, 11:14 PM
Yeah but what about the defense? They are going to be the new suns.
Having Danny/Kawhi keeps the Spurs from falling off too much.
RD2191
07-06-2015, 11:16 PM
The way I see it we only lost 1 legit defender in tiago so the spurs should be okay, imo. Also LMA is a bit underrated on defense, tbh.
Lebron4MVP
07-06-2015, 11:17 PM
Having Danny/Kawhi keeps the Spurs from falling off too much.
It takes more than 2 players to play team defense. The Suns had Marion and Raja Bell and their defense still sucked.
DPG21920
07-06-2015, 11:21 PM
It takes more than 2 players to play team defense. The Suns had Marion and Raja Bell and their defense still sucked.
Well, if you are comparing those two to DPOY+Green+Duncan, then sure.
Xevious
07-06-2015, 11:23 PM
It takes more than 2 players to play team defense. The Suns had Marion and Raja Bell and their defense still sucked.
They also had Amare "guarding" the paint and D'Antoni on the sidelines. Two totally different situations.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-06-2015, 11:26 PM
Lol. Your schtick is getting old, apalisoc_9.
You realize that the point of his schtick is posts like this?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciated all the guys lost but Splitter lowlights are plentiful and much more fun to watch in the rear view mirror. Belli couldn't guard anyone, and though he and CoJo were gamers the money they were paid it's too bad they didn't go to contending teams because it would have hurt them.
I hate losing cojo. Tho he was hit or miss, his energy was plentiful in great spurts. It was almost contagious sometimes and the perimeter defense would ante up. Whoever is signed next needs to have a motor to defend and/or be a shooter.
FromWayDowntown
07-07-2015, 12:43 AM
Damn, I gotta start reminding people about Tiago's contribution..
Pretty sad how all these mainstream vanilla fans quickly forget one of the most important piece in 2014
sad
Reasonable fans can appreciate what Tiago meant to the 2014 champs AND think that acquiring Aldridge is an upgrade.
That's not an either/or proportion, particularly since Tiago's effectiveness in 2014 was mostly about slowing Aldridge, who the Spurs no longer have to find a way to stop.
timvp
07-07-2015, 01:01 AM
Although Aldridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Splitter, that video was too harsh on Splitter. When healthy, Splitter was a good finisher around the rim. And while Aldridge has never really been on a team that values ball-movement, from what I've seen Splitter is probably the better passer.
Splitter is an above average center in the NBA. Aldridge is a top 10-15 player in the league. Huge upgrade but let's not go too overboard.
T Park
07-07-2015, 01:05 AM
Without Tiago Splitter they don't get out of the first round vs Dallas. They don't get out of the second round vs Portland, and they don't beat Miami either. Splitter was huge against Miami off the bench. The biggest reason they lost to the clippers was not having a healthy splitter vs Blake Griffen.
Mr. Body
07-07-2015, 01:06 AM
Saying Splitter was a good finisher seems to be pushing it.
timvp
07-07-2015, 01:14 AM
Saying Splitter was a good finisher seems to be pushing it.
Career shooting percentage within 3-feet of the basket:
Tim Duncan - 69.5%
LaMarcus Aldridge - 69.5%
Tiago Splitter - 67.7%
Not much of a difference between the three.
dabom
07-07-2015, 01:21 AM
Career shooting percentage within 3-feet of the basket:
Tim Duncan - 69.5%
LaMarcus Aldridge - 69.5%
Tiago Splitter - 67.7%
Not much of a difference between the three.
Make that from 0-9feet now. Also add that duncan and lma are first options semi volume shooters play big minutes and are doubled and triple teamed sometimes.
100%duncan
07-07-2015, 01:23 AM
Not only that we also have manu lma pnrs manu west pnrs with spacing from patty danny and bobo.
Going all homer Spurs fan for a moment, a few things that I liked seeing...
- Aldridge bullying Ibaka in the post, finally :cry
- Watching those bullshit fadeaways from 18ft that the Spurs have never really had from there bigs
- Those passes from the horns. I've never really seen that from him and Tiago was an excellent passer, nice to know the Spurs aren't losing much there
I will say as a few others have that Tiago was treated harshly in that video. I thought he was a solid post player and this guy really underrated Splitters passing.
popdagreat
07-07-2015, 01:29 AM
whos a better defender lma or golden god?
LongtimeSpursFan
07-07-2015, 01:39 AM
Lol. Your schtick is getting old, apalisoc_9.
Dude has nothing more to offer to this forum other than Kawhi is great or Parker sucks threads. I don't think anyone takes him as a serious poster anyway.
Mr. Body
07-07-2015, 01:55 AM
Career shooting percentage within 3-feet of the basket:
Tim Duncan - 69.5%
LaMarcus Aldridge - 69.5%
Tiago Splitter - 67.7%
Not much of a difference between the three.
What are the percentages when contested?
cutewizard
07-07-2015, 01:57 AM
Here's an interesting article:
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/7/5/8895089/10-cool-things-about-the-spurs-signing-lamarcus-aldridge
YGWHI
07-07-2015, 05:52 AM
Spurs offense is going to be wild. Especically if SA can land a decent guard/shooter. So many options with so much spacing. I really hope TP didn't decline and that is was just injuries because with this spacing he should have a mega-resurgence.
Most of the time Danny and Manu can be good guards/shooters.
mudyez
07-07-2015, 06:00 AM
It's great to have you back timvp...speaking the truth!
benefactor
07-07-2015, 06:12 AM
Although Aldridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Splitter, that video was too harsh on Splitter. When healthy, Splitter was a good finisher around the rim. And while Aldridge has never really been on a team that values ball-movement, from what I've seen Splitter is probably the better passer.
Splitter is an above average center in the NBA. Aldridge is a top 10-15 player in the league. Huge upgrade but let's not go too overboard.
Going all homer Spurs fan for a moment, a few things that I liked seeing...
- Aldridge bullying Ibaka in the post, finally :cry
- Watching those bullshit fadeaways from 18ft that the Spurs have never really had from there bigs
- Those passes from the horns. I've never really seen that from him and Tiago was an excellent passer, nice to know the Spurs aren't losing much there
I will say as a few others have that Tiago was treated harshly in that video. I thought he was a solid post player and this guy really underrated Splitters passing.
I agree that he went in a little to far on Splitter. Splitter's has one of those "ugly but effective" games around the rim. Spur fan just gives him more shit than they should because he doesn't dunk everything. I didn't know Aldridge could pass as well as he does either, but there's probably only a handful of bigs in the league that are on Splitter's level passing.
However, "when healthy" is the key. If the Spurs weren't having to deal with that, we might not even be having these conversations right now.
I'm just excited that it's not just gaining good spacing, but all around offensive integration that should require almost no adjustment from what they've been doing the past several seasons. People have made some references to RJ as the Spurs last big name they acquired and the associated failure, but many could see that RJ's game just didn't fit. Aldridge will not only fit, but he will make what is already a lethal offense even scarier.
BlackSilver
07-07-2015, 11:51 AM
I agree that Splitter is a very good finisher around the rim and that the video was a bit harsh. However, let me state the obvious that I think the video missed: Spurs haven't replaced Splitter with LMA, rather, it's Duncan taking his spot. Aldridge takes Duncan's role and is a much better player offensively at this point. That's quite an upgrade to both positions. The one thing I'm not yet sure about is how good Aldridge's passing is compared to Splitter/TD, particularly given the much faster pace the Spurs play compared to Portland. It's one thing to be standing still and thread the needle to the cutter. Something else entirely, and IMO this is what Splitter is especially good at, is passing when you and everyone else is on the move. I think it will take Aldridge some getting used to, but I would imagine he'll enjoy working on that.
therealtruth
07-07-2015, 08:35 PM
Career shooting percentage within 3-feet of the basket:
Tim Duncan - 69.5%
LaMarcus Aldridge - 69.5%
Tiago Splitter - 67.7%
Not much of a difference between the three.
Kind of surprised by that. I remember Splitter having a really nice touch around the basket. I just checked the stats and in 2012 he was around .764%. That must be what I am thinking of.
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