Game Thread: Utah Jazz vs. San Antonio Spurs Utah Summer League (8 pm CST)

[Robz4000]

If we blow this game our season is DOOMED I tell you, doomed.

Only if we're playing Alba Berlin tbh. They're the litmus test.

[TheDoctor]

Graham & KA only ones that came 2 play today

The others are just paying homage to Carr's construction company. Brick fest.

[TimDuncanDonuts]

Hood is the player of the game?

[Silver&Black]

:lol Hood = Player of the Game

Homer ass broadcast...

[TheGreatYacht]

Hood player of the game :lmao

.... This mediocre Jazz talk :sleep

[Darkwaters]

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[palangi]

Great - hes made some shots.

Who is he going to guard?
His defense has been fine tonight. And his rebounding looks good again.

keep on hating in ignorance

[DPG21920]

Let's see if KA can take over. Not just scoring, but running good offense and taking care of the ball.

[Shipupi]

Damn someone make a shot

[gulfofmexifro]

Hey Everyone,
Long time lurker here, lifelong spurs fan and a current VCU student.
It's awesome to see Tre out there ballin it up for our spurs, I'm hoping he can at least make the Toros to see him continue to grow his game!

[milkyway21]

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That's pretty all you can get! :rollin

[Russ]

Spurs need to show some character here.

[Darkwaters]

His defense has been fine tonight. And his rebounding looks good again.

keep on hating in ignorance

You're just committed to thinking hes a great prospect. His defense is very questionable and often downright terrible. His O has been much better (most because hes finally making some shots). But if he cannot guard anybody then I'm not sure how we play him.

[Splits]

Hey Everyone,
Long time lurker here, lifelong spurs fan and a current VCU student.
It's awesome to see Tre out there ballin it up for our spurs, I'm hoping he can at least make the Toros to see him continue to grow his game!

How many times have you fucked your mother?

welcome to SpursTalk

[ace3g]

Graham!!! making some tough layups

[loveforthegame]

Graham with a solid game.

[beirmeistr]

great pass by ka

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How many times have you fucked your mother?

welcome to SpursTalk
:lmao

[Silver&Black]

C'mon Bertans....give up the gotdamn ball.

[Shipupi]

Poor bertans he's getting destroyed today

[TimDuncanDonuts]

That shouldn't have counted.

[hater]

:lmao betta s is a fucking bum.

[Raven]

bertans not looking good today

[TheGreatYacht]

Bertans exposed smh

[Mugen]

I'm pretty sure I bought an eighth off Ware once.

[NASpurs]

1st class one-way ticket to Bertans back to Europe after the game.

[gulfofmexifro]

How many times have you fucked your mother?

welcome to SpursTalk
haha thanks

[TheGoldStandard]

Bertans blew his load last game..

[hater]

Cookie donna get his ass wooped if he makes it to the nba

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[Darkwaters]

Poor bertans he's getting destroyed today

Yea, rough night. Hes missed a lot of wide open shots. That last setup by Anderson was sweet. And his travel was pretty bad...

[Darkwaters]

Poor bertans he's getting destroyed today

Yea, rough night. Hes missed a lot of wide open shots. That last setup by Anderson was sweet. And his travel was pretty bad...

[ElNono]

Let's see if KA can take over. Not just scoring, but running good offense and taking care of the ball.

is he playing?

[loveforthegame]

Nice drive and drop off by Graham.

[Splits]

I'm pretty sure I bought an eighth off Ware once.

:lol pretty sure he sold me a couple grams of yay yo

[Russ]

Bertans ain't goin away.

[DPG21920]

Has Bertans made a shot since his FT misses?

[milkyway21]

Hey Everyone,
Long time lurker here, lifelong spurs fan and a current VCU student.
It's awesome to see Tre out there ballin it up for our spurs, I'm hoping he can at least make the Toros to see him continue to grow his game!.
..VCU = T. GRAHAM??

Welcome..

[TXstbobcat]

Slomo!!!!!!!

[Axegrinder]

KA..beautiful shot

[NASpurs]

Game over, tank for Okafor

[palangi]

You're just committed to thinking hes a great prospect. His defense is very questionable and often downright terrible. His O has been much better (most because hes finally making some shots). But if he cannot guard anybody then I'm not sure how we play him.
You're just committed to be close minded. Not seeing any positives defensively.

[Dancelot]

I'm pretty sure I bought an eighth off Ware once.
I did a line off of a toilet seat with Quinn Snyder once.

[tholdren]

'its just summer league!!!':madrun:madrun
go away

[RD2191]

I did a line off of a toilet seat with Quinn Snyder once.
Lmao

[gulfofmexifro]

.
..VCU = T. GRAHAM??

Welcome..
Yea its Graham and thanks

[Splits]

I did a line off of a toilet seat with Quinn Snyder once.

:lol prolly true, he looks like a coke head

[Axegrinder]

Ware sux

[NASpurs]

I did a line off of a toilet seat with Quinn Snyder once.

Funny because we did a line off a dead hooker's ass crack

[Lostwingman]

Goddamn, everyone scared to take a damn shot.

[TimDuncanDonuts]

All that 3 point shooting that got us the win yesterday is nonexistent

[Silver&Black]

Awful possession...

[Holden_Caulfield]

these niggas scared to shoot?

[Shipupi]

spurs 21% 3pt fg - 20% 3pt fg utah

[hater]

Bettans is a scrub

[Mugen]

Enrique Ware

[Russ]

Bertans not taking his shot . . .

[hater]

Kyle is legit.

[Splits]

Funny because we did a line off a dead hooker's ass crack
Lies, she had a pulse, I swear

[Silver&Black]

Enrique Ware

:lol

[ElNono]

Time for Kyle to shine

[Robz4000]

Give the ball to Fathead and get the fuck outta the way

[Dancelot]

Funny because we did a line off a dead hooker's ass crack
I believe you. Dude looks like he owns a totally nude byob strip club

[RD2191]

Lies, she had a pulse, I swear
You sick bastard.

[Splits]

Becky drawing up a WNBA layup

[Silver&Black]

InB4 the Bertans go ahead 3

[RD2191]

Damn

[milkyway21]

Jazz celebrating :lol

[loveforthegame]

Nice move. Too bad he missed.

[TheGoldStandard]

lol.. bad timeout call

[Silver&Black]

InB4 the Bertans game winning 3

[Russ]

Three by DB to win !

[RD2191]

Damn, Becky looks good.

[Holden_Caulfield]

danny Bertans corner 333 book it

[ChumpDumper]

Nice move. Too bad he missed.He was going.......too fast.

[DPG21920]

Good job defensively there. Let's see what they come up with - plenty of time.

[loveforthegame]

F'ing SL and I'm nervous. :lol

[Splits]

Cmon now Becky! Earn your paycheck

[TXstbobcat]

Jazz celebrating :lol

This is like the NBA finals for jazz fans

[Robz4000]

Waited too long for that TO. Should've let things play out.

[beirmeistr]

Becky drawing up a WNBA layup

expects players to shoot like shawn marion

[milkyway21]

Bertans why you didn't ..... Ok, nevermind :( lol

[ElNono]

damn, we need Boylen here

[TheGoldStandard]

They had spacing and KA could have attacked.. lol..

[ChumpDumper]

Cmon now Becky! Earn your paycheckShe's not the head coach here.

[Shipupi]

He was going.......too fast.

He couldn't handle the speed

[Darkwaters]

You're just committed to be close minded. Not seeing any positives defensively.

Not much to get excited about without just being a homer.

[Axegrinder]

He was going.......too fast.:bobo

[RD2191]

He was going.......too fast.
Impossible

[Darkwaters]

You're just committed to be close minded. Not seeing any positives defensively.

Not much to get excited about without just being a homer.

[hater]

Chokejob coming up

Fucking Evita :pctoss

[Robz4000]

Lets go Fathead!

[AusSpur]

Get Ware off the team now.

Has directed the offence away from Anderson the entire final minute!

[ChumpDumper]

ImpossibleOh, you're watching?

[loveforthegame]

Damn.

[RD2191]

That was a foul.

[Holden_Caulfield]

KA with two point blank lay ups

[Splits]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

FIRST ROUND EXIT IT STILL HURTS

[TheGoldStandard]

lol.. who missed that tip in..

[Robz4000]

:lmao Fathead

[DPG21920]

That lack of athleticism got him.

[Mugen]

Welp fuck this offseason

[Raven]

lol missed a freebie

[beirmeistr]

He was going.......too fast.

lollipops

[RD2191]

If you could afford the $15, you could have seen it. :toast
I must be watching another game then.

[Russ]

History made -- first loss by a female NBA coach.

[TXstbobcat]

This is the high point of the Utah Jazz season

[TheGoldStandard]

Lelanne with the t-rex arms

[Holden_Caulfield]

KA shouldve passed it the twin towers was open :lol

[NASpurs]

This is Alba Berlin all over again.

[ElNono]

Toros please

[RD2191]

Looked like a foul to me.

[ChumpDumper]

I must be watching another game then.Edited.

[Kurik]

History made -- first loss by a female NBA coach.

She's the head coach in Vegas.

[Holden_Caulfield]

some faggot is stretching the fuck out of that duncan jersey :lol

[Silver&Black]

Final boxscore:

http://i.imgur.com/2v4Fj4V.png

[SpursFan86]

Worst loss since 6 :cry

[Darkwaters]

Terrible last shot honestly... Totally off balance.

Our Summer League Title hopes are dashed....

[TheGreatYacht]

This fat white whale definitely smells like shit

[ChumpDumper]

Lelanne with the t-rex arms?

His arms are pretty long.

[palangi]

Not much to get excited about without just being a homer.
Not excited. Just don't think it is as bad as the ST popular opinion.

[DPG21920]

KA has decent enough straight line athleticism, but when he's forced to adjust and side-step it's seems tough.

[TheGoldStandard]

?

His arms are pretty long.

He didn't use that length on the tip in.. he T-rex'd it

[Silver&Black]

Well...there's always next year.

[ElNono]

SL is like watching the NBDL, tbh... terrible basketball

[TheDoctor]

History made -- first loss by a female NBA coach.

Becky's not coaching you fool.

[timtonymanu]

Damnit our 10th - 15th man are gonna suck this season. :depressed

[Darkwaters]

SL is like watching the NBDL, tbh... terrible basketball

It's like watching the NCAA tournament...

[ChumpDumper]

SL is like watching the NBDL, tbh... terrible basketballlol what are you expecting?

[TheGoldStandard]

Becky can assistant coach me anytime

[Darkwaters]

lol what are you expecting?

Rugby. Lots of HARD fouls.

[palangi]

History made -- first loss by a female NBA coach.
Slow? This has been explained.

[RD2191]

lol what are you expecting?
Your mother

[SAmagic]

I don't know why Anderson always does that awkward leaning shot when driving to the rim, doesn't he get how awkward that shot is? He goes to it every time when a euro step would be much better. Thought he had a high BBIQ yet always relys on that shot.

[Kurik]

Despite the misses late, I liked what I saw from KA tonight. He stayed aggressive and didn't get torched on defense.

[ElNono]

lol what are you expecting?

Nothing else, tbh... just pointing it out... can't wait for the real season

[wildbill2u]

Funniest line of the night by the announcer: Hood is trying to slow Anderson down.

[Darkwaters]

Not excited. Just don't think it is as bad as the ST popular opinion.

He looked infinitely better today than yesterday. But I still don't think hes close to being a rotation player - even considering the need for a backup SF. The rest of the 2nd unit would have to hide him on defense. And his offense isn't good enough for that to be a worthwhile tradeoff. He made some shots tonight though. Thats good to see. It's been a while...

[Chinook]

After Bertans got hit in the head, he had no confidence in his shot. Dunno if he was woozy or not, but the Spurs should have stuck with Graham at SG. Still, can't believe the Spurs' bigs couldn't score at the rim. It was crazy-pathetic.

[Russ]

Becky's not coaching you fool.

That's rather harsh (to Becky).

[Chinook]

I don't know why Anderson always does that awkward leaning shot when driving to the rim, doesn't he get how awkward that shot is? He goes to it every time when a euro step would be much better. Thought he had a high BBIQ yet always relys on that shot.

It's his version of the Dirk shot. It looks awkward, but there's pretty much no way his man is going to block it.

[ChumpDumper]

That's rather harsh (to Becky).She is not the head coach.

Or is this a troll post?

[SAGirl]

Lol have to laugh at all the trolling. I must be a masochist, because of all the hate. If not for Kyle these guys are not even in the game. So what he is not the perfect player, but he for sure can ball. I hope he continues to improve. Already he looks much better than last year an this is what you want to see. Livio is athletic but has no offensive game. Maybe Austin for him this year. Bertans is shooting guard. He ha some big passes but you really don't want to hand him th ball to create fir others. He was off today an it hurt them. Have a good night all!

[BD24]

Funniest line of the night by the announcer: Hood is trying to slow Anderson down.
Haha I caught that to made me chuckle

[tholdren]

Lol have to laugh at all the trolling. I must be a masochist, because of all the hate. If not for Kyle these guys are not even in the game. So what he is not the perfect player, but he for sure can ball. I hope he continues to improve. Already he looks much better than last year an this is what you want to see. Livio is athletic but has no offensive game. Maybe Austin for him this year. Bertans is shooting guard. He ha some big passes but you really don't want to hand him th ball to create fir others. He was off today an it hurt them. Have a good night all!

LOL Anderson turned the ball over 5 times - he's supposed to be an NBA player, one with "lottery talent"

Just go ask robdiaz. he'll tell you.

[SAGirl]

I have him on ignore an some other guys too. Don't mind difference of opinion at all, but some guys only and really just only troll

[Mugen]

Overall, good game considering Anderson played well and he's the only one on the SL roster that has a chance at any meaningful impact next season.

[RD2191]

Shut your whore ass up SAgirl.

[Splits]

I have him on ignore an some other guys too. Don't mind difference of opinion at all, but some guys only and really just only troll

Wanna fuck?

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[NASpurs]

Shut your whore ass up SAgirl.

robdiaz making the Spurstalk All-Ignore List :lol

Congrats bro :tu

[RD2191]

robdiaz making the Spurstalk All-Ignore List :lol

Congrats bro :tu
I'm honestly the most hated poster on this forum. Even new posters are coming after me, scrubs.:lol

[Raven]

i'm not too worried, the guard play was nonexistent so it's normal that our bigs will look bad. KA should handle the ball all the time and make things happen imo.

[south side spur]

At least Graham showed he's in the mix to be considered along with Lalanne and Bertans for a camp invite.

[tholdren]

I'm honestly the most hated poster on this forum. Even new posters are coming after me, scrubs.:lol
i don't think its personal, it's your worthless takes

[Mr. Body]

Anderson is one of the more unique players I've seen. He's figured out how to get space on his drives and get defenders out of place. He's just obviously so damn slow, but I think he has a niche somewhere in the league, it's not entirely clear where it will be. Clearly only a bench guy, he'll need to be a consistent spot shooter, most likely, and somehow speed up the release even more. I'm unsure about him running possessions, but I can see him take advantage of hard close outs. He's in the best situation, as the Spurs are where he can have a shot. I'm kind of feeling that with his smarts, and if he follows up with hard work, he can be a rotation guy.

[Mikeanaro]

:cry no more losses niggi please.

[RD2191]

i don't think its personal, it's your worthless takes
I never claimed to have good basketball takes. :lol

[tholdren]

Anderson is one of the more unique players I've seen. He's figured out how to get space on his drives and get defenders out of place. He's just obviously so damn slow, but I think he has a niche somewhere in the league, it's not entirely clear where it will be. Clearly only a bench guy, he'll need to be a consistent spot shooter, most likely, and somehow speed up the release even more. I'm unsure about him running possessions, but I can see him take advantage of hard close outs. He's in the best situation, as the Spurs are where he can have a shot. I'm kind of feeling that with his smarts, and if he follows up with hard work, he can be a rotation guy.

5 tos in SL should make you sure about running possessions.

[Mugen]

I never claimed to have good basketball takes. :lol

:lol

[AFBlue]

At least Graham showed he's in the mix to be considered along with Lalanne and Bertans for a camp invite.

Graham was legit last game too...just didn't get enough burn. He has a solid stroke and is aggressive defensively. I think Bertans is the better system fit, but I hope Graham gets a TC invite and ends up on the Austin squad. He could develop into a decent 3&D option.

[south side spur]

Graham was legit last game too...just didn't get enough burn. He has a solid stroke and is aggressive defensively. I think Bertans is the better system fit, but I hope Graham gets a TC invite and ends up on the Austin squad. He could develop into a decent 3&D option.
Let's hope he can be like a Mario Elie. Too bad these point guards are all garbage it makes assessing everyone else difficult because the sets can't even be run properly

[AFBlue]

Bertans missed some wide open looks, but he continued to show the same tenacity on both ends of the court. He displayed more versatility, with his drive and finish early in the game. I could definitely see him slotting into a role with the big squad. Yep, I'm a fan.

[ChumpDumper]

Graham was legit last game too...just didn't get enough burn. He has a solid stroke and is aggressive defensively. I think Bertans is the better system fit, but I hope Graham gets a TC invite and ends up on the Austin squad. He could develop into a decent 3&D option.He's on the Vegas squad too. He should get at least one good game of extended minutes. Looks fine out there.

[Darkwaters]

Bertans played the Summer League for us last year too. I just don't seem to remember him at all. Even when he was missing shots, he still was getting into good spots and getting good looks. He didn't follow up yesterday's great performance with a similar showing, but I still think hes a great option for Training Camp.

[Kuvai]

robdiaz making the Spurstalk All-Ignore List :lol

Congrats bro :tu

People like Robdiaz, Hater, Mugen, Apa, chump etc etc distinguishes SPURS TALK from all other shitty NBA forums out there in Internet.

I am here not only for Basketball takes, but also to enjoy sarcastic and leg pulling posts which provides lot of fun. And all the above mentioned posters were masters in that..:)

[Mr. Body]

5 tos in SL should make you sure about running possessions.

Whatever. It's one game.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Lol have to laugh at all the trolling. I must be a masochist, because of all the hate. If not for Kyle these guys are not even in the game. So what he is not the perfect player, but he for sure can ball. I hope he continues to improve. Already he looks much better than last year an this is what you want to see. Livio is athletic but has no offensive game. Maybe Austin for him this year. Bertans is shooting guard. He ha some big passes but you really don't want to hand him th ball to create fir others. He was off today an it hurt them. Have a good night all!


I thought he looked more in charge of game as well. Yesterday he looked like he was willing to defer to others but als looked upset that some passes to him came too late or not at all.

[100%duncan]

Wanna fuck?
:lol

[AFBlue]

Bertans played the Summer League for us last year too. I just don't seem to remember him at all. Even when he was missing shots, he still was getting into good spots and getting good looks. He didn't follow up yesterday's great performance with a similar showing, but I still think hes a great option for Training Camp.

I don't think he saw the court much, but he's been a revelation these two games tbqh...knows his role, plays with tenacity, has a quick release, can hit shots from multiple sets. There's definitely a lot to like.

[AFBlue]

He's on the Vegas squad too. He should get at least one good game of extended minutes. Looks fine out there.

Good stuff. :tu

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[AFBlue]

Their pics reflect their games tbqh.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Kyle's beard is so goddamn gross.

[TheGoldStandard]

It's a good thing they don't play until Thursday.

[benfti]

I never claimed to have good basketball takes. :lol
there is absolutely no need to point that out.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmHdItAxbTE&feature=youtu.be

[wildbill2u]

Bertans works hard on both ends of the court and he was picking up his man on defense near the back court end line and running hard to keep in front of him. I suspect he isn't in shape to play two games in two days and his legs were dead on his jumpers.

I suspect the reason KA seems to dribble into traffic and take those awkward shots that are well-defended is because he can't get separation. He's been doing it all his playing days so sometimes he can hang in the air or muscle the ball up amidst all the bodies and arms. High risk for TOs, but It sometimes works just because it is so awkward that the defenders can't figure it out. But that's against SL players and D league players.

By the way, Ice was slow with a long stride also, but he was much smoother and a better shooter from his first day in the pros. Bob Bass invented a set which put all the other players spread out on the end line with Gervin out front iso on his defender and the whole lane to drive into. Worked pretty well. But this kid is no Gervin and it's against Pop's principles to run an offense that features one player of his caliber.

[raybies]

Bertans works hard on both ends of the court and he was picking up his man on defense near the back court end line and running hard to keep in front of him. I suspect he isn't in shape to play two games in two days and his legs were dead on his jumpers.

I suspect the reason KA seems to dribble into traffic and take those awkward shots that are well-defended is because he can't get separation. He's been doing it all his playing days so sometimes he can hang in the air or muscle the ball up amidst all the bodies and arms. High risk for TOs, but It sometimes works just because it is so awkward that the defenders can't figure it out. But that's against SL players and D league players.

By the way, Ice was slow with a long stride also, but he was much smoother and a better shooter from his first day in the pros. Bob Bass invented a set which put all the other players spread out on the end line with Gervin out front iso on his defender and the whole lane to drive into. Worked pretty well. But this kid is no Gervin and it's against Pop's principles to run an offense that features one player of his caliber.

Solid points and post

[kobyz]

Just when you think you seen it all with KA lack of quickness, he comes with new degree of slow - can't stay in front of Motum...

[NASpurs]

Kyle's beard is so goddamn gross.

:lol I think the same thing

[TheDoctor]

Kyle looking like fucking Sabretooth with that beard.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Just when you think you seen it all with KA lack of quickness, he comes with new degree of slow - can't stay in front of Motum...

Kyle looked okay in a few games last year - slow, but smart enough to compensate. It's disturbing to hear he's struggling at summer league. :(

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmHdItAxbTE&feature=youtu.be

KA plays very similar to Harden on offense. Harden plays slow as well and he tries to memorize his man in to committing a foul. KA does the same exact thing.

And for KA speed on defense, he has a 7'4" wingspan. That wingspan should make up for his lack of lateral quickness. Plus it helps him shoot over defenders despite not having a great vertical.

[TheGoldStandard]

Nobody on this team outside of Kyle should be expecting any camp invites. Spurs don't have time to harvest Toros on there roster this season.

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody on this team outside of Kyle should be expecting any camp invites. Spurs don't have time to harvest Toros on there roster this season.Of course they do. They get about a quarter of the Austin roster from the SA training camp.

[TheDoctor]

Of course they do. They get about a quarter of the Austin roster from the SA training camp.

This. Plus, I like Bertans defense tenacity. Lets see. Bertans had a rough game last night but could have been fatigue. Some of his shots were hitting the front part of the rim.

[ChumpDumper]

This. Plus, I like Bertans defense tenacity. Lets see. Bertans had a rough game last night but could have been fatigue. Some of his shots were hitting the front part of the rim.I believe Bertans would need at least a partial guarantee to keep him from going back to Europe.

[SnakeBoy]

Kyle looked okay in a few games last year - slow, but smart enough to compensate. It's disturbing to hear he's struggling at summer league. :(

He's not.

[RD2191]

He's not.
He had a good game last night, imo.

[TheDoctor]

He had a "good" game last night, imo.

I even think he had a good first game. He didn't score that well but he rebounded and managed to distribute the ball and run the system. The difference was that he wasn't aggressive.

[latvianantonio]

So. from box score.. poor shooting from Dairis.. But how he looked on the floor?

[TheGoldStandard]

So. from box score.. poor shooting from Dairis.. But how he looked on the floor?

He wasn't a speed bump. He took shots but missed them, played the passing lanes well and was scrappy.

[latvianantonio]

Bertans played the Summer League for us last year too. I just don't seem to remember him at all. Even when he was missing shots, he still was getting into good spots and getting good looks. He didn't follow up yesterday's great performance with a similar showing, but I still think hes a great option for Training Camp.
Las year he played for Boston....

[latvianantonio]

so it's B- from you guys?

[Russ]

He wasn't a speed bump. He took shots but missed them, played the passing lanes well and was scrappy.

The thing about Bertans is he's fearless -- that's an essential trait you can't teach for an off-the-bench shooter.

He also competes in all phases of the game, even when his shot's not falling -- another good sign.

I think he's got a shot with Marco gone.

[TheGoldStandard]

The thing about Bertans is he's fearless -- that's a trait you can't teach for an off-the-bench shooter.

He also competes in all phases of the game, even when his shot's not falling -- another good sign.

I think he's got a shot with Marco gone.

That comes from being a pro at 15 and playing against men. Guy knows he needs to get his or else he'll get eaten alive

[RD2191]

I even think he had a good first game. He didn't score that well but he rebounded and managed to distribute the ball and run the system. The difference was that he wasn't aggressive.
I didn't catch much of game 1 tbh. Good to hear he wasn't that bad though.

[Russ]

That comes from being a pro at 15 and playing against men.

That's also why guys like LJC reach their ceiling early and usually don't develop more -- even though he's only 21.

People keep saying he will develop in Europe because he's still young.

But waiting for LJC to develop a jump shot may be an endless process.

[Johnny RIngo]

KA plays very similar to Harden on offense. Harden plays slow as well and he tries to memorize his man in to committing a foul. KA does the same exact thing

Not liking this comparison at all. Harden's athleticism is really underrated actually. His max vert was much higher than Kawhi's at the draft combine for instance. Kyle, on the other hand, is one of the least athletic players I've ever seen. He has skills but I don't think he's ever going to be a viable wing player in this league.

[TheGoldStandard]

That's also why guys like LJC reach their ceiling early and usually don't develop more -- even though he's only 21.

People keep saying he will develop in Europe because he's still young.

But waiting for LJC to develop a jump shot may be an endless process.

Not getting minutes is what will kill him, Asvel doesn't have time to wait for a player to develop a shot either so he won't get a ton of run. The majority of his shooting issues is on the release.. His release point is way too high, he brings the ball way to far above his head.

[ceperez]

Not getting minutes is what will kill him, Asvel doesn't have time to wait for a player to develop a shot either so he won't get a ton of run. The majority of his shooting issues is on the release.. His release point is way too high, he brings the ball way to far above his head.

Leonard was drafted not having a decent shot. I don't see why LJC at 21 years old can not develop decent form with Chip Engeland coaching him.

You are right about ASVEL not giving LJC any playing time.

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Leonard was drafted not having a decent shot. I don't see why LJC at 21 years old can not develop decent form with Chip Engeland coaching him.

You are right about ASVEL not giving LJC any playing time.

Leonard was drafted with hitches in his shot that were deemed to be fixable. He also wasn't able to handle the ball. His improvement in both areas has been nothing short of amazing. If LJC is going to improve anywhere, it'll be in San Antonio. Not overseas, not in Austin.

[ceperez]

Leonard was drafted with hitches in his shot that were deemed to be fixable. He also wasn't able to handle the ball. His improvement in both areas has been nothing short of amazing. If LJC is going to improve anywhere, it'll be in San Antonio. Not overseas, not in Austin.

He should force the issue and then work his ass of to be useful for the team. He was injured 2 years ago and it appears there have not been any noticeable improvements in his game (unless he was just tired yesterday).

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Game thoughts, Summer league game 2

I don't know if it's an indication of how poor Utah's big team is, but they have some good players on their roster. The Spurs really beat them around until they decided to stop going to the basket and settled for jumpers in the 4th. This was a decent test for them, and we can figure some more things out now that we've seen some info.

I took notes during the game, and I tried to organize them together. I'll include the raw notes on occasion as I feel necessary.

Some non-player related thoughts:

The Jazz broadcast team are possibly the stupidest people I've ever listened to on television. Their color guy doesn't know Andrew Wiggins' name, even though he has a brother on the Jazz SL team. Way to prepare, dude. He also doesn't seem to realize that Antoine Carr came to Utah from the Spurs, since he asked in an incredulous tone of voice why Carr lives in San Antonio. I had to go back and watch the 4th quarter with the sound down.

Quinn Snyder looks like a homeless person someone put a 100 dollar shirt on, or in the movies when the town drunk gets cleaned up to meet his family or to testify in the big case.

The practice of going split-screen while you're interviewing someone during the game just so you can look at their face needs to go away. Better yet, the practice of interviewing someone during the game needs to go away.

Are all Salt Lake City women unattractive, or is it just Jazz fans? Guess the trophy wives don't arrive until the regular season. Yeesh

Game thoughts.

Reffing just as bad in game 2 as in game 1, with the exception that the Spurs didn't get any bad calls of their own to make up for the ones against them this time. I saw two continuations awarded where the dribbler travelled after the foul. I guess that's a thing now. Kyle Anderson was called for the first blocking foul in history where he didn't move his feet. At all. He was standing in a defensive position, the dribbler just mowed over him, and Kyle got called for a block. I had to laugh.

For the Spurs' purposes, LJC is a center and Cady Lalanne is a 4. Lalanne is definitely bigger, but you can tell by the way they deal with contact on defense that they should swap positions and assignments. I thought LJC was the bigger guy, but he just plays like a big, and it shows.

If I were coaching this team, I'd be telling people to block out, to get back on defense. I'd tell dribblers to wait until the pick is set to try to dribble around it, I'd tell them to wait until the post player seals and calls for the ball. I'd tell post players to seal before calling for the ball. I'd also call a fucking timeout when my team gets the rebound with 11 seconds to go instead of letting them dribble until there's 4 seconds.

Player thoughts:

Ware, Graham, Scott, Smith, Nastic
You guys can't play in the NBA. Sorry. If the first three were bigger, they'd have a chance. Roscoe Smith is turrible. Nastic is a guy who plays basketball because he was tall and they told him to. Apparently he has a face that basketball refs don't like, because he got whistled for getting forearmed.

Cady Lalanne
Probably not ready for prime time, but better than I expected. He could stick at some point, but he'll need a year in Europe or Austin before he does it. He works hard on defense, he rebounds well, he's got a good attitude, and he's where he needs to be.

LJC
I still really like him. The things he does well are important, and the things he doesn't do well are easily fixed. His hands are very good. Those who say they aren't simply aren't watching. He made a terrible entry pass, resulting in a fast break, which he promptly shut down with an unbelievable block at the basket. (My notes about that play say "holy shit")

Dairis Bertans

I probably misspelled his name. I'm tired of looking it up. If he makes the team I'll commit it to memory.

He can play point. Since that's the need for the Spurs, I'd like to see it happen. He and Kyle need to be the backcourt for a game or two. Bertans is a good defender. He's got quick feet and he's smart. His pick and roll defense was very solid. He needs to learn when to pull up when he has a break to the basket, but I'm pretty sure he learned his lesson in this game. He shoots well from three, but I don't think he was the same after getting whacked in the head. The airball on the subsequent free throw should have told somebody that maybe he should have sat the rest of the evening. He missed two or three wide open shots after that that could have made a difference in the game. I don't really blame him for that.

Kyle Anderson

This was a much better performance from KA. After game 1, I wondered if he was an NBA-caliber player at all. He righted the ship in game 2.

He pulled down contested rebounds in this game, where he collected them in game 1. This was a sign of deliberate effort. The rest of his game followed. (Note says "Kyle rebounding like a man")

His handles were really really bad in this game. My notes show he just fumbled away the ball several times before halftime. That's pretty concerning and I'll be watching from here on out.

He defended well, using his feet. He didn't turn his back and flinch away like a little girl running from a bee a single time. He did that twice in game 1.

Going for a steal on a 3-on-1 break that you caused with a bad turnover might not be the best thing in the world.

I thought Kyle was a better pick and roll player as the ball handler. He was really not good tonight.

Kyle passed up a wide open three in rhythm, took one dribble, and clanked a long 2. It was kind of a Belinelli move except that he would have been better off taking the first shot.

Bryce Cotton
Gotta give him props. He hammered the ball loose from a Spur in the first half, leapt out of bounds and saved the ball to a teammate with a behind the back pass while in midair. Play of the game for me.

[ceperez]

Game thoughts, Summer league game 2

I don't know if it's an indication of how poor Utah's big team is, but they have some good players on their roster. The Spurs really beat them around until they decided to stop going to the basket and settled for jumpers in the 4th. This was a decent test for them, and we can figure some more things out now that we've seen some info.

I took notes during the game, and I tried to organize them together. I'll include the raw notes on occasion as I feel necessary.

Some non-player related thoughts:

The Jazz broadcast team are possibly the stupidest people I've ever listened to on television. Their color guy doesn't know Andrew Wiggins' name, even though he has a brother on the Jazz SL team. Way to prepare, dude. He also doesn't seem to realize that Antoine Carr came to Utah from the Spurs, since he asked in an incredulous tone of voice why Carr lives in San Antonio. I had to go back and watch the 4th quarter with the sound down.

Quinn Snyder looks like a homeless person someone put a 100 dollar shirt on, or in the movies when the town drunk gets cleaned up to meet his family or to testify in the big case.

The practice of going split-screen while you're interviewing someone during the game just so you can look at their face needs to go away. Better yet, the practice of interviewing someone during the game needs to go away.

Are all Salt Lake City women unattractive, or is it just Jazz fans? Guess the trophy wives don't arrive until the regular season. Yeesh

Game thoughts.

Reffing just as bad in game 2 as in game 1, with the exception that the Spurs didn't get any bad calls of their own to make up for the ones against them this time. I saw two continuations awarded where the dribbler travelled after the foul. I guess that's a thing now. Kyle Anderson was called for the first blocking foul in history where he didn't move his feet. At all. He was standing in a defensive position, the dribbler just mowed over him, and Kyle got called for a block. I had to laugh.

For the Spurs' purposes, LJC is a center and Cady Lalanne is a 4. Lalanne is definitely bigger, but you can tell by the way they deal with contact on defense that they should swap positions and assignments. I thought LJC was the bigger guy, but he just plays like a big, and it shows.

If I were coaching this team, I'd be telling people to block out, to get back on defense. I'd tell dribblers to wait until the pick is set to try to dribble around it, I'd tell them to wait until the post player seals and calls for the ball. I'd tell post players to seal before calling for the ball. I'd also call a fucking timeout when my team gets the rebound with 11 seconds to go instead of letting them dribble until there's 4 seconds.

Player thoughts:

Ware, Graham, Scott, Smith, Nastic
You guys can't play in the NBA. Sorry. If the first three were bigger, they'd have a chance. Roscoe Smith is turrible. Nastic is a guy who plays basketball because he was tall and they told him to. Apparently he has a face that basketball refs don't like, because he got whistled for getting forearmed.

Cady Lalanne
Probably not ready for prime time, but better than I expected. He could stick at some point, but he'll need a year in Europe or Austin before he does it. He works hard on defense, he rebounds well, he's got a good attitude, and he's where he needs to be.

LJC
I still really like him. The things he does well are important, and the things he doesn't do well are easily fixed. His hands are very good. Those who say they aren't simply aren't watching. He made a terrible entry pass, resulting in a fast break, which he promptly shut down with an unbelievable block at the basket. (My notes about that play say "holy shit")

Dairis Bertans

I probably misspelled his name. I'm tired of looking it up. If he makes the team I'll commit it to memory.

He can play point. Since that's the need for the Spurs, I'd like to see it happen. He and Kyle need to be the backcourt for a game or two. Bertans is a good defender. He's got quick feet and he's smart. His pick and roll defense was very solid. He needs to learn when to pull up when he has a break to the basket, but I'm pretty sure he learned his lesson in this game. He shoots well from three, but I don't think he was the same after getting whacked in the head. The airball on the subsequent free throw should have told somebody that maybe he should have sat the rest of the evening. He missed two or three wide open shots after that that could have made a difference in the game. I don't really blame him for that.

Kyle Anderson

This was a much better performance from KA. After game 1, I wondered if he was an NBA-caliber player at all. He righted the ship in game 2.

He pulled down contested rebounds in this game, where he collected them in game 1. This was a sign of deliberate effort. The rest of his game followed. (Note says "Kyle rebounding like a man")

His handles were really really bad in this game. My notes show he just fumbled away the ball several times before halftime. That's pretty concerning and I'll be watching from here on out.

He defended well, using his feet. He didn't turn his back and flinch away like a little girl running from a bee a single time. He did that twice in game 1.

Going for a steal on a 3-on-1 break that you caused with a bad turnover might not be the best thing in the world.

I thought Kyle was a better pick and roll player as the ball handler. He was really not good tonight.

Kyle passed up a wide open three in rhythm, took one dribble, and clanked a long 2. It was kind of a Belinelli move except that he would have been better off taking the first shot.

Bryce Cotton
Gotta give him props. He hammered the ball loose from a Spur in the first half, leapt out of bounds and saved the ball to a teammate with a behind the back pass while in midair. Play of the game for me.

Thanks. If Bertans can play defense and shoot a 3, he could be worth signing up. He could be a Dellavedova clone.

[BillMc]

Game thoughts, Summer league game 2

I don't know if it's an indication of how poor Utah's big team is, but they have some good players on their roster. The Spurs really beat them around until they decided to stop going to the basket and settled for jumpers in the 4th. This was a decent test for them, and we can figure some more things out now that we've seen some info.

I took notes during the game, and I tried to organize them together. I'll include the raw notes on occasion as I feel necessary.

Some non-player related thoughts:

The Jazz broadcast team are possibly the stupidest people I've ever listened to on television. Their color guy doesn't know Andrew Wiggins' name, even though he has a brother on the Jazz SL team. Way to prepare, dude. He also doesn't seem to realize that Antoine Carr came to Utah from the Spurs, since he asked in an incredulous tone of voice why Carr lives in San Antonio. I had to go back and watch the 4th quarter with the sound down.

Quinn Snyder looks like a homeless person someone put a 100 dollar shirt on, or in the movies when the town drunk gets cleaned up to meet his family or to testify in the big case.

The practice of going split-screen while you're interviewing someone during the game just so you can look at their face needs to go away. Better yet, the practice of interviewing someone during the game needs to go away.

Are all Salt Lake City women unattractive, or is it just Jazz fans? Guess the trophy wives don't arrive until the regular season. Yeesh

Game thoughts.

Reffing just as bad in game 2 as in game 1, with the exception that the Spurs didn't get any bad calls of their own to make up for the ones against them this time. I saw two continuations awarded where the dribbler travelled after the foul. I guess that's a thing now. Kyle Anderson was called for the first blocking foul in history where he didn't move his feet. At all. He was standing in a defensive position, the dribbler just mowed over him, and Kyle got called for a block. I had to laugh.

For the Spurs' purposes, LJC is a center and Cady Lalanne is a 4. Lalanne is definitely bigger, but you can tell by the way they deal with contact on defense that they should swap positions and assignments. I thought LJC was the bigger guy, but he just plays like a big, and it shows.

If I were coaching this team, I'd be telling people to block out, to get back on defense. I'd tell dribblers to wait until the pick is set to try to dribble around it, I'd tell them to wait until the post player seals and calls for the ball. I'd tell post players to seal before calling for the ball. I'd also call a fucking timeout when my team gets the rebound with 11 seconds to go instead of letting them dribble until there's 4 seconds.

Player thoughts:

Ware, Graham, Scott, Smith, Nastic
You guys can't play in the NBA. Sorry. If the first three were bigger, they'd have a chance. Roscoe Smith is turrible. Nastic is a guy who plays basketball because he was tall and they told him to. Apparently he has a face that basketball refs don't like, because he got whistled for getting forearmed.

Cady Lalanne
Probably not ready for prime time, but better than I expected. He could stick at some point, but he'll need a year in Europe or Austin before he does it. He works hard on defense, he rebounds well, he's got a good attitude, and he's where he needs to be.

LJC
I still really like him. The things he does well are important, and the things he doesn't do well are easily fixed. His hands are very good. Those who say they aren't simply aren't watching. He made a terrible entry pass, resulting in a fast break, which he promptly shut down with an unbelievable block at the basket. (My notes about that play say "holy shit")

Dairis Bertans

I probably misspelled his name. I'm tired of looking it up. If he makes the team I'll commit it to memory.

He can play point. Since that's the need for the Spurs, I'd like to see it happen. He and Kyle need to be the backcourt for a game or two. Bertans is a good defender. He's got quick feet and he's smart. His pick and roll defense was very solid. He needs to learn when to pull up when he has a break to the basket, but I'm pretty sure he learned his lesson in this game. He shoots well from three, but I don't think he was the same after getting whacked in the head. The airball on the subsequent free throw should have told somebody that maybe he should have sat the rest of the evening. He missed two or three wide open shots after that that could have made a difference in the game. I don't really blame him for that.

Kyle Anderson

This was a much better performance from KA. After game 1, I wondered if he was an NBA-caliber player at all. He righted the ship in game 2.

He pulled down contested rebounds in this game, where he collected them in game 1. This was a sign of deliberate effort. The rest of his game followed. (Note says "Kyle rebounding like a man")

His handles were really really bad in this game. My notes show he just fumbled away the ball several times before halftime. That's pretty concerning and I'll be watching from here on out.

He defended well, using his feet. He didn't turn his back and flinch away like a little girl running from a bee a single time. He did that twice in game 1.

Going for a steal on a 3-on-1 break that you caused with a bad turnover might not be the best thing in the world.

I thought Kyle was a better pick and roll player as the ball handler. He was really not good tonight.

Kyle passed up a wide open three in rhythm, took one dribble, and clanked a long 2. It was kind of a Belinelli move except that he would have been better off taking the first shot.

Bryce Cotton
Gotta give him props. He hammered the ball loose from a Spur in the first half, leapt out of bounds and saved the ball to a teammate with a behind the back pass while in midair. Play of the game for me.

Thanks for the write up! :toast

[Darkwaters]

Las year he played for Boston....

Thats right! Now I remember. Bertans was supposed to play the Vegas Summer League with us. However, before that he played the Orlando Summer League for Boston....and he got hurt. Totally forgot about that. Glad to see hes obviously better.

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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2014/07/boston_celtics_summer_league_2_8.html

[BatManu20]

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[SnakeBoy]

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Ugh, 7 minutes I waited for a reporter to ask her thoughts about any of the SL roster instead it was basically one "Talk about having a vagina" question after another.

[Obstructed_View]

She talked about her vagina? That might actually make me watch it.

[nickdaquick]

Bertens is not an NBA player due to lack of athleticism and height. LJC is an NBA player because of D. His O will come with more playing time. Remember, he is very young and coming off ACL surgery. If he stays healthy this year I'm guessing we'll see a completely different player next summer. He reminds me of Tristian Thompson.

[dbestpro]

[QUOTE=nickdaquick;8103994]Bertens is not an NBA player due to lack of athleticism and height. [QUOTE]

JJ Barea says hello.

[SpurPadre]

Ugh, 7 minutes I waited for a reporter to ask her thoughts about any of the SL roster instead it was basically one "Talk about having a vagina" question after another.

Pop needs to teach her how to troll reporters. That's one thing Bud, Brett, and Kerr haven't learned from him, tbh.

[tesseractive]

Pop needs to teach her how to troll reporters. That's one thing Bud, Brett, and Kerr haven't learned from him, tbh.
I think you have to have won rings as a coach before anyone tolerates that shit.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I think you have to have won rings as a coach before anyone tolerates that shit.

Exactly, that is why everyone tolerated when Bill Parcels did it. IMO, he was the best at it.

[kobyz]

KA needs to solve his confident issue, in the game it feels like he second guss himself a lot, hesitating before he shot, and also the confident issue leads to him being confuse that is leads to fumbling the ball and turnovers...

[SAGirl]

He will almost always pass if someone is open or cutting to the basket, even when he is in the middle of a drive. It can be maddening or highlight play depending on what his teammates are doing. It appears as indecision when he surveys the situation. Lack of playing time and rhythm with these guys doesn't help. I hope he improves on that, Pop doesn't like guys holding the ball with indecision anyway.

[boutons_deux]

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she looks much thinner