Friary of Ray McCallum

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi5DvYYBOR8

[Obstructed_View]

Better year than Rondo. Book it.

[RD2191]

http://giant.gfycat.com/HarmfulFreeBull.gif

[RD2191]

Fuck Ray McCallum.

[Yuixafun]

I'll donate a few farthings

[spurraider21]

Fuck Ray McCallum.
i liked cojo too but :lol 4/30

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Hope the friary serves Trappist beer...

[Holden_Caulfield]

:worthy:

[spursparker9]

A mini-Iverson

[Mr. Body]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi5DvYYBOR8

"And that's... the way the 2014 Preseason comes to an end..."

[Kawhitstorm]

Comparison: Jordan Farmar

[Yuixafun]

He does have hops reminiscent of AI

[Vokun]

"And that's... the way the 2014 Preseason comes to an end..."

TBH, dude had a clear path to the basket after that crossover.

[steeledl]

Fuck Ray McCallum.

Faggot. This dude is going to be better that cojo.

[RD2191]

Faggot. This dude is going to be better that cojo.
Yeah, I doubt that. The dude is a scrub.

[milkyway21]

Comparison : Lowry

[Silver&Black]

I'll save a pew for a few of you niggas...

[Kawhitstorm]

Comparison : Lowry

LoL, Lowry at 23 was a pitbull on defense & built like a brick house.

[ElNono]

in

[-21-]

Yeah, I doubt that. The dude is a scrub. Come on R2D2, at least give him a chance.

[AFBlue]

:lol needing a last second shot to beat the Lakers
:lol missing the first one
:lol saved by Reggie Evans
:lol best attribute is jumping high




Still...I'm in.

[ceperez]

McCallum scoring 20 points on the Spurs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4dzDEEYzw

Parker and Mills can't cover him!

This guy would be crazy good if he learns how to penetrate like Parker and shoot 3's like Mills.

[AFBlue]

McCallum scoring 20 points on the Spurs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4dzDEEYzw

Parker and Mills can't cover him!

This guy would be crazy good if he learns how to penetrate like Parker and shoot 3's like Mills.

Now THAT is a highlight clip. No wonder he was on the Spurs' radar...finishing in traffic, aggressive in transition, flashing the mid-range J. Couple of the makes were circus shots (J on Parker and left-handed leaner in the lane off the glass while falling away), but I liked the aggressiveness, ability to use his body to create separation, and how he finished in the lane with bigs lurking...very CoJo-esque.

[ceperez]

Now THAT is a highlight clip. No wonder he was on the Spurs' radar...finishing in traffic, aggressive in transition, flashing the mid-range J. Couple of the makes were circus shots (J on Parker and left-handed leaner in the lane off the glass while falling away), but I liked the aggressiveness, ability to use his body to create separation, and how he finished in the lane with bigs lurking...very CoJo-esque.

Spurs get lucky again! Kings didn't have any need for his services.

Listed at the same height as Cory Joseph and with a 40 inch vertical leap.... I say he's got more potential the CoJo.

In fact, Spurs just signed their version of Russell Westbrook!

[Mugen]

Give it til like December, rob. You won't even be able to tell the difference between the two:

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/2528447.png&w=350&h=254
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/6446.png&w=350&h=254

I can't already tbh....

[rastaspur]

Spurs get lucky again! Kings didn't have any need for his services.

Listed at the same height as Cory Joseph and with a 40 inch vertical leap.... I say he's got more potential the CoJo.

In fact, Spurs just signed their version of Russell Westbrook!

Westbrook should make you dress like him for a week as punishment for insulting him like that.

[ceperez]

Article http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2518590-ray-mccallum-to-spurs-latest-trade-details-comments-and-reaction where McCallum working out with Russell Westbrook.

[daledondale]

Fuck Ray McCallum.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d5da0e81ae4716b9013a1606bfdd3355/tumblr_mxh4i2zyUn1qdsm1jo1_500.gif

[z0sa]

Fuck Ray McCallum.

Cojos not worth 7.5 annually son.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[Spurs9]

McCallum scoring 20 points on the Spurs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4dzDEEYzw

Parker and Mills can't cover him!

This guy would be crazy good if he learns how to penetrate like Parker and shoot 3's like Mills.
Yeah he is no scrub, great replacement for a 2nd round pick who usually translates to a euro who never comes over. He's had time to work on his game who can compete in the NBA now and is young.

[ceperez]

Interesting stuff about him and his coaching dad:

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2013/8/19/4634034/ray-mccallum-father-kings-rookie-summer-league

""MY DAD WAS ALWAYS TOUGH ON ME, AND WHEN I SAY TOUGH ON ME, I DON'T MEAN YELLING AND CURSING AND GETTING IN MY FACE. NO, HE WAS ALWAYS PUSHING ME AND TRYING TO GET THE BEST OUT OF ME IN THE RIGHT WAY AND I THANK HIM FOR THAT."

He's going to need to adjust to Pop.

[SilverSpur]

R
A mini-Iverson

Bryce Cotton is a mini Iverson and we let him get away. :bang

[spursparker9]

Interesting stuff about him and his coaching dad:

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2013/8/19/4634034/ray-mccallum-father-kings-rookie-summer-league

""MY DAD WAS ALWAYS TOUGH ON ME, AND WHEN I SAY TOUGH ON ME, I DON'T MEAN YELLING AND CURSING AND GETTING IN MY FACE. NO, HE WAS ALWAYS PUSHING ME AND TRYING TO GET THE BEST OUT OF ME IN THE RIGHT WAY AND I THANK HIM FOR THAT."

He's going to need to adjust to Pop.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTLh7YZmws

Great. He is prepared for this

[look_at_g_shred]

This will bumped very often tbh..

[Spur-Addict]

Ray McCallum, a coach's son :cry

But seriously, can't ask much more from a third PG.

[ceperez]

Ray McCallum, a coach's son :cry

But seriously, can't ask much more from a third PG.

He's got to be better than Austin Rivers.

[look_at_g_shred]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d5da0e81ae4716b9013a1606bfdd3355/tumblr_mxh4i2zyUn1qdsm1jo1_500.gif
:lmao Rob.. bruh :lmao

[gameFACE]

Damn, I thought Spurs fans had a hard time cutting the umbilical cord with Speedy Claxton. But it seems like the attachment is just as strong with CuJo. Snip it!

In fairness, McCallum doesn't even have a friary yet. It's a small outdoor chapel.

[Beaverfuzz]

Yeah, I doubt that. The dude is a scrub.
Better than CoJo. Can run the game for 5-10 minutes. This is a good pickup.

[spurspokesman]

steal for the spurs

[hater]

DAMON SOUDEMIRE V2.0

MIGHTY MOUSE II

you heard it here first bitches

[r0drig0lac]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/lobt2.gif

[Mnky]

I'll save a pew for a few of you niggas...

:lol

[monkeypunk]

I like the move especially for nothing essentially.

Move Mills to sg only, with McCallum as the primary backup pg and sign Wolters as the 3rd string pg. 3 man rotation at the 2 gives Manu plenty of rest and puts Mills in his natural position. Manu will only last the year if he averages less than 10 minutes a game, imo...

Sign one more wing and done.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Damn, I thought Spurs fans had a hard time cutting the umbilical cord with Speedy Claxton. But it seems like the attachment is just as strong with CuJo. Snip it!

In fairness, McCallum doesn't even have a friary yet. It's a small outdoor chapel.

True, but there is something about outdoor chapels...

[ThaBigFundamental21]

DAMON SOUDEMIRE V2.0

MIGHTY MOUSE II

you heard it here first bitches

Ray is going to be a baller!

[K...]

Who reads this thread as "friend of mcallum" expecting some great personal background only to find it's a dumb philo thread?






Go mini might mouse!

[InRareForm]

He will come up huge in a few regular season games. Book it

[Big Empty]

looks slow. but hes a 3rd string

[Manu-of-steel]

He's able to finish even with contact, I'm ok with that. From the clips on this thread, seems like a coachable kid. A steal for the Spurs!

[BatManu20]

619303453878124544

[Nathan89]

619303453878124544

Yes, sounds like he plans on taking Tony's spot.

[Maddog]

619303453878124544

Looks like he realizes what he has lucked onto

[dabom]

Yes, sounds like he plans on taking Tony's spot.

:lmao

[littlecoyotecoin]

Damn, I thought Spurs fans had a hard time cutting the umbilical cord with Speedy Claxton. But it seems like the attachment is just as strong with CuJo. Snip it!

In fairness, McCallum doesn't even have a friary yet. It's a small outdoor chapel.

CoJo can fade away into overpaid mediocrity. Over. Fucking. Rated. And, the longer he is gone, the better he becomes. He played four years for Basketball Nirvana, and I'm pretty sure he's just about at or near his peak. Go stagnate an offense somewhere else.

[hater]

619303453878124544

like this kid

[Strategic]

I like the move especially for nothing essentially.

Move Mills to sg only, with McCallum as the primary backup pg and sign Wolters as the 3rd string pg. 3 man rotation at the 2 gives Manu plenty of rest and puts Mills in his natural position. Manu will only last the year if he averages less than 10 minutes a game, imo...

Sign one more wing and done.This is close. No reason to expect Tony and Manu to play 82 games combined this year. Maybe a vet that can make free throws.

[jbspurs]

[QUOTE=Manu-of-steel;8109297]He's able to finish even with contact, I'm ok with that. From the clips on this thread, seems like a coachable kid. A steal for the Spurs![/QUOTE

He also shoots 3's

[tim_duncan_fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kF5Pvg51k
He's not the fastest point guard ever, but he is definitely a gamer.

He's a hooper.

Rob Diaz will be right there with me and 75% of Spurstalk when we are calling for this guy to start over Parker after he has a string of good games off the bench in...let's say...January.

That's just the way things are gonna roll. It'll inevitably seem like the ball/offense is moving better with "El Rey" McCallum in the game.

This happens with all of Parker's half-way decent back-ups.

[spurtech09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kF5Pvg51k
He's not the fastest point guard ever, but he is definitely a gamer.

He's a hooper.

Rob Diaz will be right there with me and 75% of Spurstalk when we are calling for this guy to start over Parker after he has a string of good games off the bench in...let's say...January.

That's just the way things are gonna roll. It'll inevitably seem like the ball/offense is moving better with "El Rey" McCallum in the game.

This happens with all of Parker's half-way decent back-ups.McCallum seems better than Cojo

[tim_duncan_fan]

McCallum seems better than Cojo

He doesn't incessantly dribble laterally near the perimeter. That alone will put him above CoJo on most nights.

[Spurtacular]

He's not the fastest point guard ever


Bryce Cotton is lightning fast. I could've seen the Spurs getting some easy fast break points with him as the third PG. I don't know why they let him get away.

[RayTdropout]

Good pickup

[RD2191]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kF5Pvg51k
He's not the fastest point guard ever, but he is definitely a gamer.

He's a hooper.

Rob Diaz will be right there with me and 75% of Spurstalk when we are calling for this guy to start over Parker after he has a string of good games off the bench in...let's say...January.

That's just the way things are gonna roll. It'll inevitably seem like the ball/offense is moving better with "El Rey" McCallum in the game.

This happens with all of Parker's half-way decent back-ups.
Hell, start him the 1st game of the season.:lol

[Old School 44]

R

Bryce Cotton is a mini Iverson and we let him get away. :bang

Yeah, but we talkin' about practice. Practice man, not a game, we're talkin' about practice, practice...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Bryce Cotton is lightning fast. I could've seen the Spurs getting some easy fast break points with him as the third PG. I don't know why they let him get away.

Ray is 2 inches taller and 28 pounds heavier according to Draft Express. Numbers will vary depending upon where you look, but there is a considerable size difference. Ray can at least pretend to play some defense. Bryce would be even smaller than our already two small guards. If Parker and Patty weren't already on the small side, maybe we roll with a wisp like Bryce. I'm glad they didn't. He's dynamic, but not so much so that he overcomes his size issue. Didn't look like much of a facilitator, either.

[jjktkk]

Bryce Cotton is lightning fast. I could've seen the Spurs getting some easy fast break points with him as the third PG. I don't know why they let him get away.

Because the Spurs already have two offense 1st pgs on the roster. I'm guessing they want their 3rd string pg to be more defensive oriented.

[DrSteffo]

I like McCallum. Very good signing.

[Dex]

619303453878124544

[littlecoyotecoin]

619303453878124544

He realizes he doesn't play FOR Tony Parker, right? Just along side of him...or in orbit.

I keed Tony. Love you man.

[jermaine]

I'm liking this Ray Mac kid.... I can't wait to yell his name. (No homo)

[Spurtacular]

Ray is 2 inches taller and 28 pounds heavier according to Draft Express. Numbers will vary depending upon where you look, but there is a considerable size difference. Ray can at least pretend to play some defense. Bryce would be even smaller than our already two small guards. If Parker and Patty weren't already on the small side, maybe we roll with a wisp like Bryce. I'm glad they didn't. He's dynamic, but not so much so that he overcomes his size issue. Didn't look like much of a facilitator, either.

I don't think the bulk issue is as much of a consideration when we're talking limited minutes. You often just want a 3rd stringer who can be a spark one way or another. Cotton can do that.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I don't think the bulk issue is as much of a consideration when we're talking limited minutes. You often just want a 3rd stringer who can be a spark one way or another. Cotton can do that.

I'll take your word for it. I disagree, and am glad they opted out of shares in Cotton.

[BatManu20]

619272215721213952

[ceperez]

619272215721213952

He's going to be a better player than other #3... George Hill.

[RayTdropout]

RAYMAC IS GOING TO SUPRISE

[Kawhitstorm]

Bryce Cotton is lightning fast. I could've seen the Spurs getting some easy fast break points with him as the third PG. I don't know why they let him get away.

Cotton was getting bullied in the Summer league & would have been a major liability on defense.

[Spurtacular]

Cotton was getting bullied in the Summer league & would have been a major liability on defense.

I'm more inclined to buy that argument when talking about him playing big minutes. But getting spot minutes is a different scenario.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm more inclined to buy that argument when talking about him playing big minutes. But getting spot minutes is a different scenario.

You did witness Austin Rivers bulling Patty.

[Spurtacular]

You did witness Austin Rivers bulling Patty.

Come on. That was Rivers making shots he normally doesn't make.

Now, I'm not even claiming Cotton's not a potential defensive liability. I'm saying it's over-stated. He's a spark plug offensively and can have a strong plus minus in limited minutes with a second unit like the Spurs have.

[.G.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kF5Pvg51k
He's not the fastest point guard ever, but he is definitely a gamer.

He's a hooper.

Rob Diaz will be right there with me and 75% of Spurstalk when we are calling for this guy to start over Parker after he has a string of good games off the bench in...let's say...January.

That's just the way things are gonna roll. It'll inevitably seem like the ball/offense is moving better with "El Rey" McCallum in the game.

This happens with all of Parker's half-way decent back-ups.




I doubt it. As long as the lil nigga doesn't get hurt.....he b aight

[21209]

Considering how often TP is injured, Ray can't be considered a third PG on the roster. He's gonna get plenty of burn next season.

[mudyez]

Yes, sounds like he plans on taking Tony's spot.

For me he had it at the 1:30 mark of the vid.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Considering how often TP is injured, Ray can't be considered a third PG on the roster. He's gonna get plenty of burn next season.

Probably. Another reason Bryce was a no go for me. He probably won't be playing just spot minutes.


And, to Spurtacular's point, we already have another one of those sparkplug guys. His name is Patty Mills. We just didn't need a duplicate. Versatility is better.

[SPURt]

http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/864/619/619864.jpg

Looking forward to seeing Ray Mac! The nickname alone sounds sweet enough to give someone diabetes.

[spurraider21]

https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/videos/vb.25781101980/10152985748956981/?type=2&theater

[peacemaker885]

Ray seems to be a genuinely good guy, much like Cory. Qualities that PATFO value a lot.

[wildbill2u]

Bryce Cotton is lightning fast. I could've seen the Spurs getting some easy fast break points with him as the third PG. I don't know why they let him get away.

Because you didn't call Pop or Buford?

[bic50]

Cotton was getting bullied in the Summer league & would have been a major liability on defense.
Didnt look like he was getting bullied. Cotton was one of the best players in SL, and dropped a couple 40 point games. And has now signed a multi year deal with utah, apparently hes impressed them there.

[Kawhitstorm]

Didnt look like he was getting bullied. Cotton was one of the best players in SL, and dropped a couple 40 point games. And has now signed a multi year deal with utah, apparently hes impressed them there.

He can score but again he can't play defense...he makes Patty seem like Tony Allen. He is a ball dominant 5'10" shooting guard which doesn't quite fit the bill.

[benefactor]

McCallum>>>>Jimmer tbh

[GreenApple]

Because the Spurs already have two offense 1st pgs on the roster. I'm guessing they want their 3rd string pg to be more defensive oriented.

But is he a defensive oriented? is he at CoJo's level?

[k_nguyen93]

From Media day. I didn't realize his dad used to coach at University of Houston.
https://soundcloud.com/espn-san-antonio/ray-mccallum-9-28-15

[littlecoyotecoin]

From Media day. I didn't realize his dad used to coach at University of Houston.
https://soundcloud.com/espn-san-antonio/ray-mccallum-9-28-15

Bump.

[k_nguyen93]

Bump.
Speaking of Ray and his dad, apparently Stan Van Gundy let Ray's dad travel down to San Antonio for the game the other night on the charter plane with the Pistons. That's very nice of him.

[hater]

Lmao did someone say Patty is a better defender than Ray? :lmao

ray is mediocre but Patty is pretty bad.

Still, so far Cojo >>> Mcallum

[ceperez]

Did McCallum even show up in the Sixers massacre?

6 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover. 24 minutes of play.

He's got athleticism and a good shot, but unfortunately, he doesn't know how to orchestrate the offense and can't create offense for himself.

Spurs are in need of players who can guard the quicker superstar point guards in the league.

Time to waive him and start shopping for better defensive talent?

[BatManu20]

In before #BringBackCojo starts trending

[K...]

Uh, he played but once boban got in, it was boban prime time and Ray didn't get the ball much.

Anderson played a lot too and he is a point forward.

And then old Tony Parker played the first half.

[cjw]

CoJo vs. McCallum isn't the argument. Team couldn't afford CoJo.

Debate should be McCallum vs. what else is out there right now. The third PG cannot be a Chris Quinn (who happens to be serving as "assistant housing advice officer" for the Heat now per Wiki).

[ceperez]

CoJo vs. McCallum isn't the argument. Team couldn't afford CoJo.

Debate should be McCallum vs. what else is out there right now. The third PG cannot be a Chris Quinn (who happens to be serving as "assistant housing advice officer" for the Heat now per Wiki).

Spurs need 3 point shooters and someone who can guard point guards. Any prospects from the D-league?

Austin Spurs have Eddie and Orlando Johnson that may meet the need.

[k_nguyen93]

Really hard to gauge Ray at the moment because of his lack of playing time. I definitely want to see him get some more run in Austin as well. Obviously not hoping for any major injuries but as the season goes on and Tony/Manu get more rest, we might get a better look at him. He seems to compete at least. I thought he dribbled the ball a bit too much last night but he at least knew to feed Boban since he had it going.

[Mel_13]

CoJo vs. McCallum isn't the argument. Team couldn't afford CoJo.

Debate should be McCallum vs. what else is out there right now. The third PG cannot be a Chris Quinn (who happens to be serving as "assistant housing advice officer" for the Heat now per Wiki).

:bobo

Cojo is getting 7M this year, Ray is getting less than a million. The Spurs only have the vet minimum to offer. He's just fine as a third string point guard to play occasional garbage time minutes.

[SAGirl]

Tony has been fantastic this year. Patty has performed his role well, so we haven't needed Ray.

If there are injuries, at that point we will see what we have in him.

Ex. When Kawhi has missed a game we have gotten good contributions from Kyle. Nothing earth-shattering, but playing his role well enough to allow us to win.

Can Ray do that if we miss Tony for a game here or there? We don't know.

This past game doesn't tell us much. Like K... mentioned, Kyle is a point forward and the Spurs are developing his decision making so they had him initiate the offense and make plays for others a whole lot of the time he was there without Tony and Lamarcus.

Simmons basically did his thing, and is kind of being developed to also make plays, so he finished a lot of possessions initiated by others, and occasionally also created for others.

Once Boban got in the game it was Boban time.

Ray didn't stand out much. I can't get anything out of the 76ers game in either direction as it respects to Ray.

[ceperez]

Really hard to gauge Ray at the moment because of his lack of playing time. I definitely want to see him get some more run in Austin as well. Obviously not hoping for any major injuries but as the season goes on and Tony/Manu get more rest, we might get a better look at him. He seems to compete at least. I thought he dribbled the ball a bit too much last night but he at least knew to feed Boban since he had it going.

This exactly is my issue with McCallum, he dribbles but always gets nowhere and then passes the ball after the offense loses all sense of flow. Just go run the film. He did the same in Sacramento, dribbled, stopped somewhere in mid range, then passes.... totally worthless move. Reminds me of what Cojo used to do. However, Cojo at least had the ability of taking a midrange jumper.

[littlecoyotecoin]

This exactly is my issue with McCallum, he dribbles but always gets nowhere and then passes the ball after the offense loses all sense of flow. Just go run the film. He did the same in Sacramento, dribbled, stopped somewhere in mid range, then passes.... totally worthless move. Reminds me of what Cojo used to do. However, Cojo at least had the ability of taking a midrange jumper.

Yeah. He did remind me a bit of Cojo last night. Took Cojo four years in The Spurs system to get that "dribble around the arc like a hunchback" maneuver down. Ray got it down pat in 11 games, a quarter of the season, or 80 minutes of playing time (pulled figures out of ass). So, if he reminds us of Cojo we've already won. I still posit that he hasn't done much to embarass himself at this point. Point guard is the hardest position on the team, he's a third year player in his first few games here, and he's the backup's backup. I'm fine with him, thus far.

Early on in the season, he was having a few too many turnovers. Not last night. One bad entry pass.

He hasn't been aggressive with his penetration, but I am not surprised based upon what happens to KA when he makes a mistake...minimizing mistakes is probably priority number one for these guys. I am sure "don't fuck up don't fuck up" runs through their heads a lot with Pop watching from the sideline. Over time, he may be more aggressive as he was against us once. If not, he's cheap and expendable.

He is quick, so I am not sure what you mean, there, in another post. He has the physical tools to be a decent defender, I believe. At least as good as Patty and Parker.

As so many have stated, KA, Simms, Bobo, Parker, and Patty are doing a lot of play-making. And, good health has made him unneeded. He's played so little early that I am not sure that your're quite being fair. But, whatevs.

[Kawhitstorm]

This exactly is my issue with McCallum, he dribbles but always gets nowhere and then passes the ball after the offense loses all sense of flow. Just go run the film. He did the same in Sacramento, dribbled, stopped somewhere in mid range, then passes.... totally worthless move. Reminds me of what Cojo used to do. However, Cojo at least had the ability of taking a midrange jumper.

His job is not to turn the ball over & play respectable defense instead of extending the league, he's a 3rd stringer for a reason. What he's doing is better than Gary Neal launching bad shots & playing turnstile defense:lol

[ceperez]

Yeah. He did remind me a bit of Cojo last night. Took Cojo four years in The Spurs system to get that "dribble around the arc like a hunchback" maneuver down. Ray got it down pat in 11 games, a quarter of the season, or 80 minutes of playing time (pulled figures out of ass). So, if he reminds us of Cojo we've already won. I still posit that he hasn't done much to embarass himself at this point. Point guard is the hardest position on the team, he's a third year player in his first few games here, and he's the backup's backup. I'm fine with him, thus far.

Early on in the season, he was having a few too many turnovers. Not last night. One bad entry pass.

He hasn't been aggressive with his penetration, but I am not surprised based upon what happens to KA when he makes a mistake...minimizing mistakes is probably priority number one for these guys. I am sure "don't fuck up don't fuck up" runs through their heads a lot with Pop watching from the sideline. Over time, he may be more aggressive as he was against us once. If not, he's cheap and expendable.

He is quick, so I am not sure what you mean, there, in another post. He has the physical tools to be a decent defender, I believe. At least as good as Patty and Parker.

As so many have stated, KA, Simms, Bobo, Parker, and Patty are doing a lot of play-making. And, good health has made him unneeded. He's played so little early that I am not sure that your're quite being fair. But, whatevs.

He's the same height as Parker. He could be quick, however a bigger guard will be more effective against the likes of Westbrook.

BTW, speaking about CoJo, he's shooting .29% from the 3 point line. Terrible as expected. I'm surprised that Chip couldn't work his magic on Cojo.

[SpurPadre]

His job is not to turn the ball over & play respectable defense instead of extending the league, he's a 3rd stringer for a reason. What he's doing is better than Gary Neal launching bad shots & playing turnstile defense:lol

In other words, he can defend shoeless players. LOL.

[gambit1990]

don't like what little i've seen of him.

[SAGirl]

BTW, speaking about CoJo, he's shooting .29% from the 3 point line. Terrible as expected. I'm surprised that Chip couldn't work his magic on Cojo.
I suspect there is a limit to how much shot mechanics can improve someone's shot. If they had bad form b4, fixing it + repetition would help, but hand/eye coordination is not the same for everyone.

Cojo also had a weird hitch on his shot, it isn't a quick release like Ray's, so shooting with a guy running at him can throw him off rhythm. In the Spurs he started to just avoid shooting a 3 altogether. Ray is aggressive with his shot if he's open as nd has a quick release, so that at least is more promising than say Simmons for example.

[ceperez]

I suspect there is a limit to how much shot mechanics can improve someone's shot. If they had bad form b4, fixing it + repetition would help, but hand/eye coordination is not the same for everyone.

Cojo also had a weird hitch on his shot, it isn't a quick release like Ray's, so shooting with a guy running at him can throw him off rhythm. In the Spurs he started to just avoid shooting a 3 altogether. Ray is aggressive with his shot if he's open as nd has a quick release, so that at least is more promising than say Simmons for example.

You reminded me of the one thing I really like about McCallum. He has a very quick release.

[K...]

I can imagine the spurs not knowing what they want to do with Ray. Consider, this summer they didn't know if Parker would recover, if mills would recover, they didn't know Simmons would win mvp.


In that world you keep Ray as a possible backup pg, and prep him to replace the inevitable Parker injury.


But if Parker stays effective for two to three years and Simmons/Anderson are the de facto bench ball handlers would Ray be better served being a spot up shooter?

There's a huge difference between being the spurs starting point guard, the back up, and the bench unit. It's as almost as if the spurs are two different teams

[ceperez]

I can imagine the spurs not knowing what they want to do with Ray. Consider, this summer they didn't know if Parker would recover, if mills would recover, they didn't know Simmons would win mvp.


In that world you keep Ray as a possible backup pg, and prep him to replace the inevitable Parker injury.


But if Parker stays effective for two to three years and Simmons/Anderson are the de facto bench ball handlers would Ray be better served being a spot up shooter?

There's a huge difference between being the spurs starting point guard, the back up, and the bench unit. It's as almost as if the spurs are two different teams

McCallum sign up was for insurance purposes. Spurs didn't know if Parker would have any legs left. They didn't know if Anderson and Simmons could handle the ball.

I'm just not a fan of keeping him since he has the same problem defensively as Parker and Mills. Also, McCallum really isn't a PG, he's like Mills. He pretends to be a PG but it is obvious that he's more of a catch and shoot SG.

[Kawhitstorm]

You reminded me of the one thing I really like about McCallum. He has a very quick release.

He's a poorman's Patty

[DeRozan m8]

Ray is so fucking bad hahah

I thought he might be a rich mans Corey, he's a poor mans Corey, he's just so fucking bad hahah

[K...]

I still don't understand why people expect people under 6'4'' to be capable of locking down perimeter players. The league rules are pro offense, even freak of nature George hill can't lock down every pg he faces.

This is the same shit that makes people under appreciate Danny g.

[ceperez]

I still don't understand why people expect people under 6'4'' to be capable of locking down perimeter players. The league rules are pro offense, even freak of nature George hill can't lock down every pg he faces.

This is the same shit that makes people under appreciate Danny g.

I agree with you here, a good perimeter player cannot be locked down by another player who is shorter or the same height. You got to have someone bigger. That's why in the past the guys who were effective against Parker where players like Sefolosha (6'7") and Ariza (6'8").

[ChumpDumper]

Assigned to the Toros again.

http://austin.dleague.nba.com/news/spurs-assign-ray-mccallum-to-austin-spurs/

They play RGV at 11AM Central Thursday if anyone wants to watch live.

http://dleague.nba.com/games/20151217/AUSRGV/

And of course it will be archived.

cWaIGyYGpFg

[SAGirl]

Assigned to the Toros again.

http://austin.dleague.nba.com/news/spurs-assign-ray-mccallum-to-austin-spurs/

They play RGV at 11AM Central Thursday if anyone wants to watch live.

http://dleague.nba.com/games/20151217/AUSRGV/

And of course it will be archived.

cWaIGyYGpFg

thanks for sharing.
I'll watch it when I have some time, at least the minutes he plays. I am intrigued to find out how he's doing.

[bic50]

That's good. I think he needs it

[ChumpDumper]

Assigned again:

http://austin.dleague.nba.com/news/spurs-assign-ray-mccallum-to-austin-spurs-2/

Playing Bakersfield tonight at 6.

http://dleague.nba.com/games/20151227/BAKAUS/

gpy_4yh6v_M

[ceperez]

McCallum is quick, athletic and has a very quick release.

Unfortunately, he's got t-rex arms and a t-rex basketball IQ. Those two drawbacks are hard to fix.

[ChumpDumper]

OK, coach.

[Spurtacular]

He sucks. I done told you all that before the season even started.

[ChumpDumper]

He sucks. I done told you all that before the season even started.And you were done told Jimmer sucked in the NBA.

[ceperez]

He sucks. I done told you all that before the season even started.

Yeah, you are right on that one. He definitely sucks.

Unfortunately, Jimmer sucked more because he couldn't get over himself.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, you are right on that one. He definitely sucks.

Unfortunately, Jimmer sucked more because he couldn't get over himself.

LOL; what are you basing that on? Some bitter nameless coward's opinion? Jimmer will be in an NBA rotation in January. Ray may get a ring despite sucking though.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL; what are you basing that on? Some bitter nameless coward's opinion? Jimmer will be in an NBA rotation in January.You do know your opinion of Ray is that of a bitter nameless coward, right?

[Mel_13]

LOL; what are you basing that on? Some bitter nameless coward's opinion? Jimmer will be in an NBA rotation in January. Ray may get a ring despite sucking though.

Bookmarked.

[ChumpDumper]

Game is pretty funny tonight. Toros closing out with a four guard + Thomas lineup.

[ceperez]

LOL; what are you basing that on? Some bitter nameless coward's opinion? Jimmer will be in an NBA rotation in January. Ray may get a ring despite sucking though.

There are credible reports out there that has some assistant coach commenting about Jimmer's attitude problem.

Fan's also saw it too when he passed to Boban and Boban couldn't catch the ball. He rolled his eyes because of the botched play. However, he just didn't realize that Boban is 7'3" and that pass he made was meant for someone at 5'11".

[Spurtacular]

You do know your opinion of Ray is that of a bitter nameless coward, right?

Keep trying.

[Spurtacular]

Fan's also saw it too when he passed to Boban and Boban couldn't catch the ball. He rolled his eyes because of the botched play. However, he just didn't realize that Boban is 7'3" and that pass he made was meant for someone at 5'11".

LOL. I saw the play. I saw the hyperbole on ST after that alleged event happened. You are a "well executed" troll as your current poll says.

[ChumpDumper]

Keep trying.Trying what?

Spurtacular isn't your actual name, so your shit talking here about Ray is exactly the same as someone else's shit talking about Jimmer.

Don't cry.

Also, Ray had a good game.

Don't cry.

[Spurtacular]

There are credible reports out there that has some assistant coach commenting about Jimmer's attitude problem.


That hack is probably not even in the league any more.

[Spurtacular]

Trying what?

Spurtacular isn't your actual name, so your shit talking here about Ray is exactly the same as someone else's shit talking about Jimmer.

Don't cry.

Also, Ray had a good game.

Don't cry.

These come-on's would work if my emotional intelligence was that of a fourth grader.

[ChumpDumper]

These come-on's would work if my emotional intelligence was that of a fourth grader.You got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread, so you might want to reconsider your emotional intelligence.

[Spurtacular]

You got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread, so you might want to reconsider your emotional intelligence.

:lmao I'd say you were over analyzing if I knew you weren't simply trolling.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao I'd say you were over analyzing if I knew you weren't simply trolling.I'm just saying you got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread. I guess you have to try to laugh it off.

[Spurtacular]

I'm just saying you got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread. I guess you have to try to laugh it off.

I don't have to be trolled to talk sh** on RM, dude.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have to be trolled to talk sh** on RM, dude.You got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread, dude.

Is the church keylogging your potential swear words?

[Spurtacular]

You got trolled into whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread, dude.

:lmao You look for the cheapest "victories."

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao You look for the cheapest "victories."I didn't even do it.

#ceperez

[Spurtacular]

I didn't even do it.

#ceperez

And then you can't even own it. I guess you felt the shame.

[ChumpDumper]

And then you can't even own it. I guess you felt the shame.I trolled you into being defensive about whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread.

[Spurtacular]

I trolled you into being defensive about whining about Jimmer in a Ray McCallum thread.

Way to not follow a train of thought. :clap:clap:clap

[ChumpDumper]

While we wait for Spurtacular's next whine, I'll say that the microball lineup gave Ray plenty of opportunities to work with and without the ball. Ended up with 24 points and 6 assists. Couple of fourth quarter steals.

[ChumpDumper]

Way to not follow a train of thought. :clap:clap:clapI owned my tolling of you here. No shame at all. Way to miss the point in your own tangent. :clap:clap:clap

[Spurtacular]

I owned my tolling of you here. No shame at all. Way to miss the point in your own tangent. :clap:clap:clap

If you say so, Daniel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP41t6ivqxg

[ChumpDumper]

If you say so, Daniel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP41t6ivqxgIs there a part you didn't understand?

I'm here to help you understand how you were trolled.

[Spurtacular]

Is there a part you didn't understand?

I'm here to help you understand how you were trolled.

If you have to "help me understand", you suck at trolling :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

If you have to "help me understand", you suck at trolling :lmaoYou didn't answer the question.

[Spurtacular]

Tisk.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, you are still in the Ray McCallum thread.

Maybe someday you'll realize what happened.

[tholdren]

SAN ANTONIO (Dec. 27, 2015) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have assigned guard Ray McCallum to the Austin Spurs of the NBA Development League.

McCallum, 6-3/190, is averaging 1.6 points in 7.1 minutes in 13 appearances with San Antonio this season. The assignment marks McCallum’s third stint with the Austin Spurs, where he has averaged 16.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 37.8 minutes in four total appearances this season.
...................
Jimmer averages 23ppg, 4.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 2spg in 36 min.

[SAGirl]

While we wait for Spurtacular's next whine, I'll say that the microball lineup gave Ray plenty of opportunities to work with and without the ball. Ended up with 24 points and 6 assists. Couple of fourth quarter steals.
:tu

Can I ask you politely, since I am genuinely interested in our roleplayers, what do you think they had him work on?

What kind of sets where they running?

Does this look like the assignment just to get him some court reps, or was there anything in particular he seemed to be assigned to do?

Were they calling plays for him?

[ChumpDumper]

SAN ANTONIO (Dec. 27, 2015) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have assigned guard Ray McCallum to the Austin Spurs of the NBA Development League.

McCallum, 6-3/190, is averaging 1.6 points in 7.1 minutes in 13 appearances with San Antonio this season. The assignment marks McCallum’s third stint with the Austin Spurs, where he has averaged 16.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 37.8 minutes in four total appearances this season.
...................
Jimmer averages 23ppg, 4.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 2spg in 36 min.
Don't look at Ray's stats from today whatever you do. Your Sabbath will be ruined.

[SAGirl]

Looked at the stats, Ray had a great game, best +/- in the team, scored efficiently, got assists, and may I add, apparently Cady Lalanne continues to play well as well.

[Kawhitstorm]

Tisk.

Crying over Jimmer not being worthy of the Austin Daye spot:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Crying over Jimmer not being worthy of the Austin Daye spot:lmao

Nobody's crying, bruh. I ain't anyhow.

[SAGirl]

good game by Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHdi-Fg0ENk

[Spurtacular]

In 5 d-league games, McCallum is averaging 18.6 on 38.6 mpg.

In 12 d-league games, Jimmer has never scored fewer than 19 on 36.3 mpg.

McCallum has shot .445 FG and .409 3FG and Jimmer has shot .493 FG and .459 3FG.

Spurs f'd up.

[ceperez]

In 5 d-league games, McCallum is averaging 18.6 on 38.6 mpg.

In 12 d-league games, Jimmer has never scored fewer than 19 on 36.3 mpg.

McCallum has shot .445 FG and .409 3FG and Jimmer has shot .493 FG and .459 3FG.

Spurs f'd up.

To be honest, NBA players should average more than 20 points in the D-league.

We are talking about a player here that can't sniff the court because he can't defend. That is the same flaw of Jimmer. Therefore, you can't say the Spurs messed up. Furthermore, Jimmer has a attitude problem that you really don't want for someone at the end of the bench.

What you want for the end of bench guy is a guy like Patty Mills who was content in waiving the towel all game long! Patty is my favorite player in the Spurs and he's likely every Spurs favorite player. Jimmer.... well... he still thinks he's a superstar.

[ceperez]

good game by Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHdi-Fg0ENk

6 assists.... that's an improvement.

[Spurtacular]

We are talking about a player here that can't sniff the court because he can't defend. That is the same flaw of Jimmer. Therefore, you can't say the Spurs messed up. Furthermore, Jimmer has a attitude problem that you really don't want for someone at the end of the bench.

What you want for the end of bench guy is a guy like Patty Mills who was content in waiving the towel all game long! Patty is my favorite player in the Spurs and he's likely every Spurs favorite player. Jimmer.... well... he still thinks he's a superstar.

McCallum did an okay job of clapping in this video. He needs to work on his towel waving. That must be why he was sent back to the d-league. Clearly, he had an attitude problem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTc22SZs2Yw

[ceperez]

McCallum did an okay job of clapping in this video. He needs to work on his towel waving. That must be why he was sent back to the d-league. Clearly, he had an attitude problem.


Maybe you can't read. I'm saying if you are at the end of bench player, you can't act like you are a prima dona. This is meant for Fredette. McCallum doesn't have an attitude problem, he has a T-rex arms problem... same problem that Fredette also has.

[Phenomanul]

Also, nothing prohibits the Spurs from giving Fredette a second look if they so desired. Danny Green's journeymen days through the D-League come to mind. Difference being that Green is a defender...

[SAGirl]

Also, nothing prohibits the Spurs from giving Fredette a second look if they so desired. Danny Green's journeymen days through the D-League come to mind. Difference being that Green is a defender...

And this team's identity this year, more than previously is defense (and they have always been defense first, but had recently trotted out purely offensive players in the regular rotation like Gary Neal and Marco Belinelli.) This year they did away with that and went fir players with defensive upside.

It is possible Ray doesn't figure in the Spurs future. It is hard to say bc our PG have been healthy luckily, but Ray is an energy guy who makes hustle plays. Jimmer didn't have that.

[Spurtacular]

Maybe you can't read. I'm saying if you are at the end of bench player, you can't act like you are a prima dona. This is meant for Fredette. McCallum doesn't have an attitude problem, he has a T-rex arms problem... same problem that Fredette also has.

Well, it's a good thing Fredette's goal is rotation player and not end of bench guy, then.

[Mr Bones]

There are very rare instances where every team passes on a player who then shows they were wrong. Hassan Whiteside is a good example, but lots of teams shied away from him because of maturity/behavior issues. Honestly, if I was Jimmer I'd happily head to Europe & make some money living in a great city like Barcelona, Paris, or Rome.

[ceperez]

There are very rare instances where every team passes on a player who then shows they were wrong. Hassan Whiteside is a good example, but lots of teams shied away from him because of maturity/behavior issues. Honestly, if I was Jimmer I'd happily head to Europe & make some money living in a great city like Barcelona, Paris, or Rome.

Fredette needs to see the writing on the wall. NBA players are now much better 3 point shooters. Small ball revolution has taken over. The bar is much higher now, players not only have to shoot but they must be big and quick enough to defend.

Fredette is a short and slow player. There are plenty of players that are much taller and quicker that can shoot the 3. Realize also that Fredette's shooting in nothing near elite.

[Spurtacular]

There are very rare instances where every team passes on a player who then shows they were wrong. Hassan Whiteside is a good example, but lots of teams shied away from him because of maturity/behavior issues. Honestly, if I was Jimmer I'd happily head to Europe & make some money living in a great city like Barcelona, Paris, or Rome.

The Jimmer is an American brand. Moving to Europe is probably not the slam dunk you think it is. If you were arguing from a purely basketball perspective, then maybe. But I think Jimmer has his pride and wants to prove himself at the NBA level in any event.

[Mr Bones]

The Jimmer is an American brand. Moving to Europe is probably not the slam dunk you think it is. If you were arguing from a purely basketball perspective, then maybe. But I think Jimmer has his pride and wants to prove himself at the NBA level in any event.

I don't think it's a slam dunk-- I think it's a great opportunity to have an irreplaceable life experience, making good money & living in a great city of the world for a few years...

[RD2191]

I'm starting to think Spurtacular is Jimmer himself.:lol

[Spurtacular]

I don't think it's a slam dunk-- I think it's a great opportunity to have an irreplaceable life experience, making good money & living in a great city of the world for a few years...

It'd be a slam dunk. Euroball is basically d-league ball.

[ChumpDumper]

It'd be a slam dunk. Euroball is basically d-league ball.
:lmao no.

[ceperez]

I'm starting to think Spurtacular is Jimmer himself.:lol

Same here. His accent just sounds like Jimmer.

[Mr Bones]

Moving to Europe is probably not the slam dunk you think it is.


I don't think it's a slam dunk


It'd be a slam dunk.

OK.

[tholdren]

Don't look at Ray's stats from today whatever you do. Your Sabbath will be ruined.

Jimmer is statistically better than Ray this year in the D League.

[Spurtacular]

Same here. His accent just sounds like Jimmer.

I guess that's a compliments, as Jimmer is fairly well spoken.

[ChumpDumper]

Jimmer is statistically better than Ray this year in the D League.Sorry about your Sabbath, dude.

[SAGirl]

Too bad Ray' s thread has been infested with Jimmer.:deadhorse

[K...]

The difference between Ray and jimmer is that jim is supposed to be a pure shooter. Catch,, shoot, repeat.

Ray is a journey man pg. He's learning plays. Only thing he needs to do is practice and watch film.

Comparing the two is dumb and also robs the jimmer thread of it's rightful high post counts.

[gambit1990]

Better year than Rondo. Book it.

A mini-Iverson

Faggot. This dude is going to be better that cojo.

Comparison : Lowry

He will come up huge in a few regular season games. Book it
:lol

don't like what little i've seen of him.
:bobo

[r0drig0lac]

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+can+agree+every+church+lets+burn+them+_9d381b086 aabfc9c7fc60b58159b3cd7.jpg

[DJR210]

:lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+can+agree+every+church+lets+burn+them+_9d381b086 aabfc9c7fc60b58159b3cd7.jpg

Yep. Time to bury the hatchet... err, ashes. Good riddance, McCallum was trash. :toast

[gambit1990]

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+can+agree+every+church+lets+burn+them+_9d381b086 aabfc9c7fc60b58159b3cd7.jpg
:lol

was gonna post this:
https://supermarcey.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/b58873da143a4a262095f36b208aca93.gif
but you beat me to it.

[tholdren]

Looked at the stats, Ray had a great game, best +/- in the team, scored efficiently, got assists, and may I add, apparently Cady Lalanne continues to play well as well.

Lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

The play that stands out the most for Ray this season was that horrendous pass to Boban. After Boban had established deep position on his man in single coverage, Ray proceeds to dribble around and throw up an ill advised jumper. Boban taps the rebound back out to Ray. Ray is WIDE OPEN at the 3 point line and then proceeds to pass the ball to Boban in TRIPLE coverage, resulting in a Turnover. That was the most memorable play of McCallum for me.

He was downright horrendous at times.

[ceperez]

The play that stands out the most for Ray this season was that horrendous pass to Boban. After Boban had established deep position on his man in single coverage, Ray proceeds to dribble around and throw up an ill advised jumper. Boban taps the rebound back out to Ray. Ray is WIDE OPEN at the 3 point line and then proceeds to pass the ball to Boban in TRIPLE coverage, resulting in a Turnover. That was the most memorable play of McCallum for me.

He was downright horrendous at times.

He was very athletic and had good shot with a quick release.... but obviously could not run plays. He just can't see them, like he has some kind of blindspot. I'm not surprised he was let go.

[ceperez]

The play that stands out the most for Ray this season was that horrendous pass to Boban. After Boban had established deep position on his man in single coverage, Ray proceeds to dribble around and throw up an ill advised jumper. Boban taps the rebound back out to Ray. Ray is WIDE OPEN at the 3 point line and then proceeds to pass the ball to Boban in TRIPLE coverage, resulting in a Turnover. That was the most memorable play of McCallum for me.

He was downright horrendous at times.

He was very athletic and had good shot with a quick release.... but obviously could not run plays. He just can't see them, like he has some kind of blindspot. Every player in the Spurs offense needs to know how to read the defense. It makes it worse that the point guard is unable to read the defense. No amount of training will compensate for a low basketball IQ.