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ducks
07-09-2015, 10:19 AM
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/619139429077135360

BillMc
07-09-2015, 10:31 AM
Not a cuban fan at all, but not even returning the calls? Classless move by DeAndre. Not sure where DJ's agent is in all this. May have thrown up his hands!

TheDoctor
07-09-2015, 11:05 AM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/229bd24f-9f69-4b6d-8e6f-aac3e4a8612e.jpg

spurspokesman
07-09-2015, 11:08 AM
Im going to enjoy the ensuing dallas meltdown

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2015, 11:10 AM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/229bd24f-9f69-4b6d-8e6f-aac3e4a8612e.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/YabH8Q2.gif

WildcardManu
07-09-2015, 11:15 AM
I know the Mavs are our rivals. Still, business is business and that was a sleazy move by the Clips/DJ and his agent jilting Dallas like that without a courtesy call.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2015, 11:17 AM
I know the Mavs are our rivals. Still, business is business and that was a sleazy move by the Clips/DJ and his agent jilting Dallas like that without a courtesy call.

I agree. I hate the Mavs for the most part, but Mavs based their whole FA on this deal, early. All the other suitors that they probably would have made a play for have committed at this point. This is a low blow move by DJ. I hope the rest of league goes ham playing the Clips next year as a result.

BillMc
07-09-2015, 11:24 AM
In 4 years, when he's an FA again, I'm sure he'll get courted...but not by the Mavs, that's for sure.

eDizzle20
07-09-2015, 11:31 AM
I give credit to LMA after witnessing the DJ debacble. He met with many teams and multiple times to make sure he was making the right decision. DJ couldn't even man up and tell the Mavs organization himself. Ridiculous.

baseline bum
07-09-2015, 12:19 PM
Not a cuban fan at all, but not even returning the calls? Classless move by DeAndre. Not sure where DJ's agent is in all this. May have thrown up his hands!

Jordan froze out his agent too.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 12:20 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

Das Texan
07-09-2015, 12:21 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/GYR0MEISTER/229bd24f-9f69-4b6d-8e6f-aac3e4a8612e.jpg

:lol @ roasting Broussard!

picnroll
07-09-2015, 12:24 PM
I hope Silver gives Cuban free reign on the Dallas jumbo trim when the Clips and Jordan come to town.

Old School 44
07-09-2015, 12:26 PM
In 4 years, when he's an FA again, I'm sure he'll get courted...but not by the Mavs, that's for sure.
Yep...definitely not the Mavs. He will only be courted by others if the process changes and the signing is immediate or the commitment is binding.

Spurs9
07-09-2015, 12:26 PM
It took 2 minutes for me to find his address :lol Broussard thinking Cuban didn't know it.

baseline bum
07-09-2015, 12:27 PM
In 4 years, when he's an FA again, I'm sure he'll get courted...but not by the Mavs, that's for sure.

Jordan is the big man version of Gerald Wallace, it's hard to see him aging gracefully into his 30s.

hater
07-09-2015, 12:27 PM
:lmao broussad getting carried away in the melodrama :lol

BillMc
07-09-2015, 12:30 PM
Jordan is the big man version of Gerald Wallace, it's hard to see him aging gracefully into his 30s.

You're right. When that athleticism goes he's done.

cd98
07-09-2015, 01:03 PM
He's taking his anger out on Broussad, who went out of his way to make Cuban look as foolish and desperate as possible. Needless to say, he won't be breaking any Mav news going forward.

Dingle Barry
07-09-2015, 01:04 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

Losing Jordan didn't mean freed cap space for clips.

Seventyniner
07-09-2015, 01:07 PM
Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

Nope. The Clippers were over the cap anyway, so while they could re-sign Jordan with Bird rights, they couldn't offer that same salary to anyone else.

HarlemHeat37
07-09-2015, 01:10 PM
Meh, hate Cuban all you want, but the Clippers have become the most unlikable organization in the NBA the past few years, particularly because of Tom Rivers, tbh..I don't think there is any NBA figure I dislike more, including Phil Jackson..

Findog
07-09-2015, 01:13 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

I don't see how. The Mavs were a fringe playoff team last year. The Clippers are a dark-horse contender to win the conference. It doesn't make sense that they would go out of their way to sabotage the Mavs FA plans. What I'm guessing happened is that they kept lobbying him even after he made his commitment to Dallas and eventually convinced him to renege. Occam's Razor and all that.

Findog
07-09-2015, 01:15 PM
How would the Spurs have handled this if say, Kawhi Leonard agreed to a deal with another team during the moratorium and then called up Pop and RC expressing second thoughts? I don't think they would have done what the Clippers did.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 01:26 PM
I don't see how. The Mavs were a fringe playoff team last year. The Clippers are a dark-horse contender to win the conference. It doesn't make sense that they would go out of their way to sabotage the Mavs FA plans. What I'm guessing happened is that they kept lobbying him even after he made his commitment to Dallas and eventually convinced him to renege. Occam's Razor and all that.

You would know better than I do the interactions Mark Cuban has had with Doc and Chris Paul, etc. over the years, but Cuban did make some inflammatory comments when SB bought the team. I did a quick search, and "I paved the way for him" and "I hope he fucks up" came up. Cuban has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. But your point is solid. If this was a calculated move, it's certainly personal and not basketball-related.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 01:29 PM
How would the Spurs have handled this if say, Kawhi Leonard agreed to a deal with another team during the moratorium and then called up Pop and RC expressing second thoughts? I don't think they would have done what the Clippers did.

I can say with confidence that Pop would tell him that he made an commitment and he needed to be a man and stick with it. At very worst he would tell the player to immediately hang up the phone and call the representative for the other team if he has second thoughts. I'd say that there are probably several teams that would rather not get their player back than put another team in a position like that, and there's only one team in the league that would send a half-dozen people to the motherfucker's house five hours before the moratorium ends.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 01:31 PM
Nope. The Clippers were over the cap anyway, so while they could re-sign Jordan with Bird rights, they couldn't offer that same salary to anyone else.

Ah, thanks guys. I didn't realize that. Makes sense though.

Findog
07-09-2015, 01:40 PM
I can say with confidence that Pop would tell him that he made an commitment and he needed to be a man and stick with it. At very worst he would tell the player to immediately hang up the phone and call the representative for the other team if he has second thoughts. I'd say that there are probably several teams that would rather not get their player back than put another team in a position like that, and there's only one team in the league that would send a half-dozen people to the motherfucker's house five hours before the moratorium ends.

That's what I'm thinking too. He would tell him it was too late, or at worst he would say "That's between you and your agent and Team X. You need to talk to them, work something out with Team X and get released from your agreement before we can talk to you. We're not going to go behind their backs and negotiate a contract with you after you made a commitment to them."

HarlemHeat37
07-09-2015, 01:42 PM
:lol Tom Rivers is the same nigga that quit on the Celtics to allow him to join a Clippers team that was owned by a known racist and slumlord, which Rivers knew first-hand, considering he actually played there as a player..

When the Clippers were eliminated in the 2nd round last year, he used Sterling as an excuse as to why the team underachieved:lol..after saying it wouldn't be a distraction, too..

This year, after they were eliminated, he blamed the previous regime for his poor GMing moves and ability, despite clearly starting out with a better roster than he ultimately built:lol..

Can't expect any integrity or honesty from him, he's probably the biggest snake and con-man in the NBA, at this point..fortunately for him, he has a lot of friends in the media..

milkyway21
07-09-2015, 02:01 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

Theory:

Cuban had second thoughts about Jordan leading his team.

Changed his mind.. Thinking just let the division rivals Spurs, Houston, & other teams battle for the title he'll just SAVE his money would rather wait for Durant's free agency next summer..


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Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 02:06 PM
That's what I'm thinking too. He would tell him it was too late, or at worst he would say "That's between you and your agent and Team X. You need to talk to them, work something out with Team X and get released from your agreement before we can talk to you. We're not going to go behind their backs and negotiate a contract with you after you made a commitment to them."

And to be fair, I think Mark Cuban would say the same thing. As much as he wants to win for the fans, I don't think he'd sacrifice his reputation to pull that bush-league shit.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 02:09 PM
Theory:

Cuban had second thoughts about Jordan leading his team.

Changed his mind.. Thinking just let the division rivals Spurs, Houston, & other teams battle for the title he'll just SAVE his money would rather wait for Durant's free agency next summer..


.
That's probably a better move in the long term.

Problem is that the Mavericks didn't start this process. They just thought they had a deal with a grown up. Waiting for Durant would be smart, though he's got Dirk with a ticking clock. Cuban's reaction clearly shows this was a gut shot to him. He'd have kept Chandler if he wasn't all in on Jordan.

spursistan
07-09-2015, 02:10 PM
:lol Tom Rivers is the same nigga that quit on the Celtics to allow him to join a Clippers team that was owned by a known racist and slumlord, which Rivers knew first-hand, considering he actually played there as a player..

When the Clippers were eliminated in the 2nd round last year, he used Sterling as an excuse as to why the team underachieved:lol..after saying it wouldn't be a distraction, too..

This year, after they were eliminated, he blamed the previous regime for his poor GMing moves and ability, despite clearly starting out with a better roster than he ultimately built:lol..

Can't expect any integrity or honesty from him, he's probably the biggest snake and con-man in the NBA, at this point..fortunately for him, he has a lot of friends in the media..
I hate and can't understand how Pop is buddy-buddy with this fraud; that mid-court bear-hugging after each game is pathetic..Even Phil Jackson smug ass never stooped to lowly workings of Doc at the peak our rivalry with the Lakers..Time for Pop to give him the the cold shoulder like Mchale Mike Dantoni back in the day..

CaptainLate
07-09-2015, 02:13 PM
Not a cuban fan at all, but not even returning the calls? Classless move by DeAndre. Not sure where DJ's agent is in all this. May have thrown up his hands!

How do I contact Cuban? I can show him how he can make DJordan regret not signing with Mavs. https://wesharecrowdfunding.com/NoTaxesTexasGovernor

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2015, 02:15 PM
That's probably a better move in the long term.

Problem is that the Mavericks didn't start this process. They just thought they had a deal with a grown up. Waiting for Durant would be smart, though he's got Dirk with a ticking clock. Cuban's reaction clearly shows this was a gut shot to him. He'd have kept Chandler if he wasn't all in on Jordan.

Basically Ellis and Chandler salaries were only 4mil more than Jordan's. With the Cap going up, Mavs would have been able to offer Durant the max next year anyways. Jordan just screwed the Mavs over.

BillMc
07-09-2015, 02:17 PM
How do I contact Cuban? I can show him how he can make DJordan regret not signing with Mavs. https://wesharecrowdfunding.com/NoTaxesTexasGovernor

:lol It might work!

Brazil
07-09-2015, 02:19 PM
:lmao Broussard

as it is somehow difficult for fucking Cuban to find Jordan address

:lmao

you cannot invent stupid... they born that way

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 02:32 PM
:lmao Broussard

as it is somehow difficult for fucking Cuban to find Jordan address

:lmao

you cannot invent stupid... they born that way

I don't understand how Chris Broussard thinks that a NBA team could agree to sign a guy to an 80 million dollar contract and not have his fucking contact information. I can't return a can of paint at Lowe's without them getting my contact information.

freemeat
07-09-2015, 02:47 PM
Mark Cuban has made billions off the internet. The fucking internet...you know, that cyber thing that has access to every piece of information ever typed on a keyboard. If anyone knows how to find DeAndre Jordan's address, it's Mark Cuban. He wouldn't even have to ask for help.

Brazil
07-09-2015, 02:55 PM
I don't understand how Chris Broussard thinks that a NBA team could agree to sign a guy to an 80 million dollar contract and not have his fucking contact information. I can't return a can of paint at Lowe's without them getting my contact information.

we all knew Broussard is shit but this tweet is the crown of his career :lol

Findog
07-09-2015, 03:00 PM
Mark Cuban has made billions off the internet. The fucking internet...you know, that cyber thing that has access to every piece of information ever typed on a keyboard. If anyone knows how to find DeAndre Jordan's address, it's Mark Cuban. He wouldn't even have to ask for help.

He put Radio on the Internet. Three comma club, baby!

spurtech09
07-09-2015, 03:07 PM
Not a cuban fan at all, but not even returning the calls? Classless move by DeAndre. Not sure where DJ's agent is in all this. May have thrown up his hands!I agree

Findog
07-09-2015, 03:09 PM
I don't understand how Chris Broussard thinks that a NBA team could agree to sign a guy to an 80 million dollar contract and not have his fucking contact information. I can't return a can of paint at Lowe's without them getting my contact information.

Cuban is tight with Dan Fegan, Jordan's soon to be former agent. I'm sure he had the info from him.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 03:15 PM
Cuban is tight with Dan Fegan, Jordan's soon to be former agent. I'm sure he had the info from him.

Precisely. There are a options when you own an NBA team, have the number of probably 200 NBA-related people on your phone, have the league office on speed dial, have a billion dollars, have hundreds of employees at your beck and call, and recently agreed to pay 80 million dollars to the person in question.

cjw
07-09-2015, 03:46 PM
Losing Jordan didn't mean freed cap space for clips.

Right. But given they had no cap space, totally surprising there was zero talk of a S&T with the Mavs to at least get a TPE for Jordan to trade for a guy into their cap space. To me that is what strikes me as sketchy.

Dingle Barry
07-09-2015, 04:18 PM
Right. But given they had no cap space, totally surprising there was zero talk of a S&T with the Mavs to at least get a TPE for Jordan to trade for a guy into their cap space. To me that is what strikes me as sketchy.

Dallas had no motivation to do that and we don't know what talks took place. Clips deliberately trolling the Mavs makes no sense imo.

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 04:19 PM
First off, yeah I shouldn't have left the TV on.

But I was just listening to the asshats on ESPN talking about this situation, and the reaction absolutely floors me. They all defended Jordan's decision, and at least three of them said that it was Cuban's fault for not getting Jordan to sign on the dotted line or having a backup plan.

Uh, whut?

I hope these guys are so understanding when this happens to a player, and a team gets a guy to commit then backs out at the 11th hour.

Despot
07-09-2015, 04:51 PM
Not sure if I will ever trust Broussard news again....

He is clearly the idiot. My understanding is Cuban was with DJ's agent. So is Broussard trying to say that not even his agent did not know where he lived?
Unbelievable that Broussard would post that w/o thinking it through.

HarlemHeat37
07-09-2015, 04:52 PM
Broussard has been getting killed this week, tbh:lol..

First Bomani Jones, now Cuban..

RD2191
07-09-2015, 04:52 PM
Cuban is just salty, tbh. If anything he should be directing his anger towards DJ/Doc/Clips.

spursistan
07-09-2015, 04:58 PM
I don't know how Cuban/Presti are still keeping the "smart" rep within the league :lol

CaptainLate
07-09-2015, 05:12 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

I'm no Mavs fan either. But I did feel bad for them. If anyone can get to the bottom of this, then you can bet Mr. Cuban will spend whatever it takes to do it.

GSH
07-09-2015, 05:42 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.


Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?


THAT right there is the reason I think Sterling has to take some kind of action this season, not next season. They always talk about "the appearance of impropriety". The Clippers didn't give any signs that they thought it would ever go any other way. Maybe it's all just circumstance, but optics are important. Can't be fixed for the Mavs, since you can't force a guy to play if he doesn't want to be there. But there really should be some penalty for the Clippers.

DPG21920
07-09-2015, 05:51 PM
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/13229198/chandler-parsons-feels-disrespected-deandre-jordan-decision-renege-deal-dallas-mavericks


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Chandler Parsons committed himself to the process of recruiting DeAndre Jordan to the Dallas Mavericks this summer. Parsons played a major role in getting Jordan to commit to the Mavs.

It turned out that it didn’t matter, as Jordan changed his mind several days later, opting to re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers and leaving the Mavs scrambling to fill a massive hole in the middle of their starting lineup.

A transcript of Parsons’ interview with ESPN.com the day after Jordan made a decision that devastated Dallas’ immediate and long-term plans:

What is your reaction to DeAndre Jordan’s decision to back out of his commitment and return to the Clippers?

Parsons: “I’m shocked, very disappointed, frustrated, disrespected. This is something that I’ve never seen in my career, and I know that it doesn’t happen very often. When a man gives you his word and an organization his word, especially when that organization put in so much effort and I walked him through this process and was very, very open and willing to work with him, it’s just very unethical and disrespectful.”

When did you first find out that Jordan was considering going back to the Clippers?

Parsons: “I had talked to him every day. … I had no idea until Mark called me Monday and said he thought DeAndre was getting cold feet, which is normal for this process. It’s a big decision. You’re always going to have second thoughts and wonder if I made the right decision. Everything, all those thoughts are going to go through your mind. I had the same thoughts last year when I had to go ahead and sign with Dallas and have a chance to leave Houston, but never once in my life would I consider turning on an entire organization and city and going back and backtracking. I didn’t know that and I finally heard from him telling me that he was going to meet with them again.”

Is there anything the Mavs or you should have done differently during this process?

Parsons: “No chance. We did everything we can. We put it all out in front of him. There is nothing more that we could have physically, emotionally possibly done to make him feel more comfortable and to make him stay and sign with Dallas. I guess maybe I could have stayed with him in L.A. or Houston and held his hand throughout the entire process, but I didn’t think that ever I would have to do something like that.”

Why do you think he changed his mind?

Parsons: “It’s a lot of pressure. Maybe he got nerves about being a franchise player and having the pressure of leading a team. He’s very comfortable in L.A. He can play behind Chris Paul, play behind Blake Griffin. That’s what I thought he didn’t want. Throughout the process, that’s what he told me he didn’t want. He wanted to take the next step in his career. He wanted to be the man on his team and build something special.

“That’s why I was so into this, because it’s the same thing I want. It’s the same exact reasons I left Houston. That’s why I thought he was going to leave L.A. He was tired of being in the shadows. He wanted a bigger role. He wanted the attention he deserves, which is why it’s so mind-blowing, because he’s going back to the same exact thing that he wanted to leave for the last couple of weeks.”

Will your friendship with Jordan survive this?

Parsons: “Um, you know, it’s … He’s a good dude and I am friends with him. We did develop a really good relationship and we got close over the last few weeks. I just think the decision was much bigger than that. It was something that he wasn’t ready to handle.

“He’s complacent in L.A., and I think that was a safer bet than for him to make a big decision and branch off and go do his own thing. He was probably nervous. He was probably scared. I don’t know because I haven’t talked to him. He’s a good dude. I don’t think he’s a bad person for this. I think he’s just confused. This decision was just way too big for him and he wasn’t ready to be a franchise player.”

Where do the Mavs go from here?

Parsons: “That’s the worst part. He put our entire franchise and our team in a really, really tough spot. We put all our eggs in the DeAndre Jordan basket and we had a commit from him. We had a man’s word that he was going to come here. Then we signed Wes Matthews and we had myself, we had three key building blocks for the future that are young going forward.

“Every day since he committed and every day before he committed, guys were coming off the board. It’s slim pickings now. That’s the hardest part. I can put my friendship aside with him for a minute, but this is my career that we’re talking about. This is my organization and my team and my city that we’re talking about that he put in jeopardy by doing this.”

How often did you talk to Jordan from the time he had his commitment until the time he signed with the Clippers?

Parsons: “Every day. This is what I do. I recruited him extremely hard, but it wasn’t hard. Everything I told him was true – him being an MVP candidate, him being a perennial All-Star, him being the best center in the NBA. That would all be possible with him in Dallas with the opportunity that we were going to give him, so I continued to tell him that every single day.

“I could tell it was getting a little silent. He was getting a little standoffish. It wasn’t the same type of conversation that we were having ever since the media and Cuban heard that he was getting cold feet. Obviously we now know that that was true and he’s going back to L.A., but I was definitely taken off guard. I never thought in a million years that this would happen.”

How long did he shut down communication with you on Wednesday? What was running through your mind during that time?

Parsons: “Yeah, he was very randomly responding to me, but he was not responding to Mark at all, which in my eyes is very unprofessional. An owner that bent over backwards, did whatever you said throughout this process and was giving you a chance to be great, I don’t know how you shut him out and close the door on him when he’s in your city and just wanting to meet with you and get a face-to-face with you like you said that you were going to and just completely ignoring you, I don’t know how he did that.

“The kind of guy that he is, the kind of guy I thought he is, would never do something like that. That’s tough for me to swallow, just from the fact that I know how excited Mark was. I know how invested Mark has been throughout this whole process. That’s what I don’t get.

“Be a professional. Pick up the phone. If you’re not going to meet with him, pick up the phone and tell the guy that you’re committed to what you’re feeling, what you’re going through and maybe he can talk it out and help you. But do not ignore the guy. Do not make him sit there and sweat it out. That’s just very unprofessional. I can’t get over that part.”

Are you more disappointed from a personal or professional standpoint?

Parsons: “Listen, this isn’t personal between me and him. I was just recruiting DeAndre Jordan to come to my team because I think that he’s a really good player and I think he could have been the [NBA’s] best center in Dallas with the players that we have and the system that we have. I think he could have been great.

“Personally, I’m OK. That’s not what it’s about. It’s about next season. We had a chance to be really good. We went with DeAndre Jordan, and now we have no other options because he decided to change his mind at the last second. This has nothing to do with me being hurt with how he decided to go back to the Clippers. It’s bigger than that.

“He put our team in jeopardy. Everything we’ve done this summer has been surrounded by him, and then at the last second, he’s going to do that. That’s what I’m upset with.”

Did Jordan make a mistake? Was this the wrong decision for him?

Parsons: “You never know. We’re going to have to play it out. I think he’s a really good player and will continue to be a really good player in L.A. and they’ll have a really good team. It’s tough to say it’s a mistake, because he’s been in that situation. He played on the team last year and he’s had a good career there. So I wouldn’t say it’s a mistake that he went back. I just think for what he wanted and what he was telling us through the whole process, he’s not going to get that in L.A.”

Was this a bad gamble for the Mavs or a risk worth taking given the potential reward?

Parsons: “This was a risk that we were willing to take, and I think it was worth taking. It’s not our fault. We did everything that we could. We had a verbal commitment from a grown-ass man. Like, there’s nothing else that we could have done. There’s nothing else that we could have said.

“This was a risk that we never thought would have been a risk looking back on it. We met, he went through the process, met with teams, that’s it. He committed to us. It’s over. I never thought this could ever be a risk and come down to this. Obviously, now it looks like that and we think, ‘Ah, man, shoulda done this, shoulda done that.’ He was our guy from jump and we made that clear to him. We were willing to take that risk.”

How long will it take the Mavs to overcome this?

Parsons: “It’s going to be tough. I’m not really sure what moves we’re going to make now or for this upcoming season. But look, every year there’s a lot of good free agents that are out there, and we have the best owner that’s going to go out there and aggressively pursue them just like we did this year. I’d rather have an owner like that that will take a chance, that will go after a DeAndre Jordan, that will go after a Rajon Rondo and be willing to take risks like this to be great and to be a championship contender. It just didn’t work out for us this time. I think everybody knows why.”

You felt you had a foundation in place with a dominant center you’d play with the rest of your career …

Parsons: “Let me cut you off there. Those were his words. Those were DeAndre Jordan’s words: ‘We’re going to retire together. Next place I go to, I’m going to retire in that city.’ So of course I thought that, because those were his words, not mine.”

OK, but you certainly felt like there was foundation in place throughout Dirk’s golden years and to the next era for the Mavs. At this point, do you still feel like the future is bright and that you’re part of the long-term future of this franchise?

Parsons: “I definitely do. I think this is my team. I think we have the best owner. We’ll get over this. We’ll move forward. If we struggle next year, so be it, but we will bounce back and we have a lot of hungry guys that we’ve signed. We want guys like Wes Matthews on this team. He’s a man of his word. He’s tough. He’s exactly the type of character that we want in Dallas, so maybe this will be a blessing in disguise that it happened like this.

“We have a lot of cap space and we will have a lot of cap space next summer to go after the top guys, so I think the future’s bright. I know I’m going to do everything in my power to get healthy. I know Wes is going to do everything in his power to get healthy. We’re going to go down swinging, that’s for sure.”

Anything else you want to add?

Parsons: “He wasn’t ready for being a franchise player. He was scared. He was scared to take the next step in his career. There was no other reason other than that he was comfortable and he has friendships there. How you make a business decision like that is beyond me. How you ignore an owner like Mark who is in your hometown just waiting for a chance to talk to you is beyond me.

“I don’t think he made a mistake. I think he’ll be good in L.A. He’s got a good team, he’s got a great point guard, he’s got Blake, but I think he could have been a superstar in Dallas. He could have been the man in Dallas. Never in a million years did I think that this was even a possibility.

“I’ll still be friends with him, but I can’t get over the way that he’s put our entire franchise in jeopardy. It’s normal to get cold feet. It’s normal to get second thoughts, but you don’t back out of a commitment of this much magnitude this late in the game and just leave us high and dry.”

CaptainLate
07-09-2015, 06:09 PM
Broussard has been getting killed this week, tbh:lol..

First Bomani Jones, now Cuban..

But Broussard is a good devout evangelical...he wouldn't lie. :sleep

clubalien
07-09-2015, 06:34 PM
reading that i could'r help but think how Jason Kidd decided to not come to the spurs after all the recruiting and suposed commitments to coming here.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-09-2015, 07:23 PM
Lowe spot on as usual: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sorting-out-the-deandre-jordan-carnival/

ducks
07-09-2015, 07:28 PM
Parsons: “This was a risk that we were willing to take, and I think it was worth taking. It’s not our fault. We did everything that we could. We had a verbal commitment from a grown-ass man. Like, there’s nothing else that we could have done. There’s nothing else that we could have said.

TheGoldStandard
07-09-2015, 07:34 PM
First off, yeah I shouldn't have left the TV on.

But I was just listening to the asshats on ESPN talking about this situation, and the reaction absolutely floors me. They all defended Jordan's decision, and at least three of them said that it was Cuban's fault for not getting Jordan to sign on the dotted line or having a backup plan.

Uh, whut?

I hope these guys are so understanding when this happens to a player, and a team gets a guy to commit then backs out at the 11th hour.

There is a reason these guys are working for ESPN and not for a team. Not good at there jobs

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 08:06 PM
reading that i could'r help but think how Jason Kidd decided to not come to the spurs after all the recruiting and suposed commitments to coming here.

Except that there were no commitments of any kind. He listened to the Spurs' pitch and chose the Nets.

TXstbobcat
07-09-2015, 08:16 PM
As a Spurs fan, I have no love for the Mavs but I do feel bad for them that Jordan pretty much horse fucked the franchise forcing them to up the offer and completely over pay with a max offer for Mathews.

hater
07-09-2015, 08:26 PM
Damn Jordan set back that team at least 5 years :lmao

Obstructed_View
07-09-2015, 09:04 PM
Damn Jordan set back that team at least 5 years :lmao

It's entirely possible that the Mavs will realize the bullet they dodged. Jordan has always been a head case. The backlash from this is going to be, if not severe, then ongoing. They shouldn't have overpaid Matthews like they did, but they'll be able to sign someone better than Jordan next year.

hater
07-09-2015, 09:14 PM
It's entirely possible that the Mavs will realize the bullet they dodged. Jordan has always been a head case. The backlash from this is going to be, if not severe, then ongoing. They shouldn't have overpaid Matthews like they did, but they'll be able to sign someone better than Jordan next year.

wrong. nobody of importance going to sign there after what Jordan did imo. for awhile. bad juju

cd98
07-09-2015, 10:26 PM
Jordan didn't do wrong by changing his mind. Yes, it hurt the Mavs, but that's the risk you take until the contract is signed. Spurs were in the same boat waiting for Aldridge to commit. The wrong was not telling Cuban immediately and facing up to his decision. LeBron was hated for his arrogance. Jordan should get hate for his cowardice. And the Clipper owner, coaches, and the vets are equally shameful. Their integrity required them to give Jordan wise counsel about how to treat owners like Cuban when you are a player in free agency. They are equally culpable for showing no class. They should've told Jordan to call Cuban and be straight about changing his mind.

exstatic
07-09-2015, 11:13 PM
I hate the Mavericks. I hate their fans. I hate Mark Cuban.

This is fucked up. They don't deserve this. LA just pulled the ultimate bush-league move.

Does anyone else find it odd that the Clippers lost their center five full days ago, freeing up all that cap space, and didn't sign a replacement from the centers that were available? Then they waited until everyone else was gone and there were hours to go before the deadline to all converge in Houston at DJ's house.

Any reason to think this was a planned move? Did Cuban do or say something to or about the Clippers that might have prompted this?

They had no cap room, even if they renounced DJ. They were as fucked if he didn't come back as Dallas is now.

Aztecfan03
07-09-2015, 11:18 PM
THAT right there is the reason I think Sterling has to take some kind of action this season, not next season. They always talk about "the appearance of impropriety". The Clippers didn't give any signs that they thought it would ever go any other way. Maybe it's all just circumstance, but optics are important. Can't be fixed for the Mavs, since you can't force a guy to play if he doesn't want to be there. But there really should be some penalty for the Clippers.
They didn't have the cap space to get a replacement and Donald Sterling can't do shit. You mean Silver.

Old School 44
07-09-2015, 11:22 PM
I hate and can't understand how Pop is buddy-buddy with this fraud; that mid-court bear-hugging after each game is pathetic..Even Phil Jackson smug ass never stooped to lowly workings of Doc at the peak our rivalry with the Lakers..Time for Pop to give him the the cold shoulder like Mchale Mike Dantoni back in the day..
What's the saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer".

KDKSpurs24
07-09-2015, 11:59 PM
wrong. nobody of importance going to sign there after what Jordan did imo. for awhile. bad juju
I actually believe that they'll be able to sign someone. He's right, they dodged a bullet. And free agents will be more than happy to be to show Jordan that they aren't the type to back out like he did.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2015, 04:32 AM
wrong. nobody of importance going to sign there after what Jordan did imo. for awhile. bad juju

If Cuban had lashed out, then you might have a point, but Dallas didn't do anything wrong. This is all on Jordan and the Clippers.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2015, 08:48 AM
Jordan didn't do wrong by changing his mind. Yes, it hurt the Mavs, but that's the risk you take until the contract is signed. Spurs were in the same boat waiting for Aldridge to commit. The wrong was not telling Cuban immediately and facing up to his decision. LeBron was hated for his arrogance. Jordan should get hate for his cowardice. And the Clipper owner, coaches, and the vets are equally shameful. Their integrity required them to give Jordan wise counsel about how to treat owners like Cuban when you are a player in free agency. They are equally culpable for showing no class. They should've told Jordan to call Cuban and be straight about changing his mind.

Technically no, but it does show a lot about his character. He is a pussy, plain and simple. He gave his word to commit with the Mavs.

That's the difference with LMA. He probably told the Spurs they were top on his list. And he did his due diligence by meeting with teams, nothing wrong with that. But after DELIBERATING all options, he chose the Spurs and stayed true to that commitment.

Problem is, DJ is one dumb muthafucker. Can't deliberate for himself if he tried. Paul and Rivers still have that guy in a bib and riding around on training wheels.

hater
07-10-2015, 08:49 AM
Damn Jordan set back that team at least 5 years :lmao

:lmao they signed a guy with 1 leg to the max :lol

Told u so...

cd98
07-10-2015, 08:55 AM
Technically no, but it does show a lot about his character. He is a pussy, plain and simple. He gave his word to commit with the Mavs.

That's the difference with LMA. He probably told the Spurs they were top on his list. And he did his due diligence by meeting with teams, nothing wrong with that. But after DELIBERATING all options, he chose the Spurs and stayed true to that commitment.

Problem is, DJ is one dumb muthafucker. Can't deliberate for himself if he tried. Paul and Rivers still have that guy in a bib and riding around on training wheels.

Yea, he's flakey and unreliable. Sounds like Cuban figured that out by at least Tuesday. But you know his character going in and it's a gamble. Suns went all in on Aldrige and tied up money knowing they'd miss out on other free agents. Mavs got hosed a little worse, but they had to know he doesn't have a top dog personality. So changing his mind is human and it isn't unreasonable that a 24 year old (I think) could change his mind.


But to not at least tell Cuban is immature. That shows the Clippers just blew a fortune on a mental midget.

hater
07-10-2015, 09:16 AM
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07-10-2015, 09:21 AM
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07-10-2015, 09:25 AM
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lmbebo
07-10-2015, 09:57 AM
There is an audio recording starting to go around from Cuban speaking at some SMU business graduation or something. Someone asked him about the Jordan thing. Basically he said "shit happens, moving on" very PC about it.

Old School 44
07-10-2015, 10:05 AM
^ those vids are funny as hell! Someone needs to make one of Cuban in the Shark Tank selling joining his team, with NBA players on the panel.

Jdspur20
07-10-2015, 11:15 AM
Now we will hear all year from the Mavs camp is Kevindurant2016# :sleep

TheChillFactor
07-10-2015, 11:59 AM
When i first registered on this forum a bunch of ppl were all, "ooooohhhhhh welcome to the most hardcore Spurs site on teh interwebz, you are gunna get pwned real bad here n00b" and all this other stupid bullshit. I cant believe the faggots in this thread expressing sympathy for Cuban and the Mavs' faggot fans. Fuck them and fuck Dirk too.

RD2191
07-10-2015, 12:01 PM
When i first registered on this forum a bunch of ppl were all, "ooooohhhhhh welcome to the most hardcore Spurs site on teh interwebz, you are gunna get pwned real bad here n00b" and all this other stupid bullshit. I cant believe the faggots in this thread expressing sympathy for Cuban and the Mavs' faggot fans. Fuck them and fuck Dirk too.
Bold this man.

SnakeBoy
07-10-2015, 12:39 PM
Damn Jordan set back that team at least 5 years :lmao

Nah Mavs got options

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UG1YjuS0op8/TexShxm-MCI/AAAAAAAAAGc/jIsrrAm_99I/s1600/mark+cuban.jpg

Obstructed_View
07-10-2015, 03:38 PM
When i first registered on this forum a bunch of ppl were all, "ooooohhhhhh welcome to the most hardcore Spurs site on teh interwebz, you are gunna get pwned real bad here n00b" and all this other stupid bullshit. I cant believe the faggots in this thread expressing sympathy for Cuban and the Mavs' faggot fans. Fuck them and fuck Dirk too.

Well you fit right in with the dumbasses.

Obstructed_View
07-10-2015, 03:38 PM
When i first registered on this forum a bunch of ppl were all, "ooooohhhhhh welcome to the most hardcore Spurs site on teh interwebz, you are gunna get pwned real bad here n00b" and all this other stupid bullshit. I cant believe the faggots in this thread expressing sympathy for Cuban and the Mavs' faggot fans. Fuck them and fuck Dirk too.

Well you fit right in with the dumbasses.

TheChillFactor
07-10-2015, 04:30 PM
Well you fit right in with the dumbasses.

All I ever wanted was the love and acceptance of my fellow Spurs fans...Thank you Obstructed_View!