Splitter traded for 2007 second-rounder Georgios Printezis and top-55 protected 2017

[NASpurs]

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[spurraider21]

We drafted him :lol

[ducks]

lol

[ChumpDumper]

http://sanctuaryucc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/fist-pump-baby.jpg

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Yay we got Printezis back :)

[ceperez]

Sigh... no Tavares.

Why will the Spurs pick up a 2007 draft pick... are they ready to bring him in?

[duncan2150]

He will never come :)


It's juste a salary dump, at least they could have take an unprotected second round pick ......

[benefactor]

We drafted him :lol
:lol...thought that name looked familiar.

[ChumpDumper]

Sigh... no Tavares.You done been told, son.

[Robz4000]

:lol

[duncan2150]

He had some good games in this year euroleague with Olympiakos but i would be surprised if he comes to san antonio

[100%duncan]

Thats lame as fuck

[BillMc]

Well, at least its official. Time to sign Timmy, LMA, Danny, Kawhi, Manu and David. :toast

[Splits]

:lol so for nothing

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl32W8Q4d28

[ChumpDumper]

No Greeks.

[Mr. Body]

Greek Lightning.

[Spurs9]

:lmao

[hsxvvd]

2017 top 55 protected... hmm Hawks in the East may still end up with a top 5 record in 2016... 2017 maybe not.

[Bruno]

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got fucking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!

[benefactor]

Savior, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zqD9y3n3cc

[024]

Could have gotten at least an unprotected 2nd rounder... Pop getting fleeced.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I understand Duncan is signing for $5million so there will $2million left.

[Budkin]

Wow we're lucky we got LMA or this deal would have been one of the worst of all time for us.

[ceperez]

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

[spurraider21]

:lmao if the aldridge deal didn't happen

[100%duncan]

Wow we're lucky we got LMA or this deal would have been one of the worst of all time for us.
Yup :lol Tim and Manu would have straight up left

[K...]

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

You have hope man..maybe there's an under the table deal that Tavares is traded for diaws contract next season. Can't happen this year because there is no space. So give him a year with spurs east.

See, no dream ever dies on spurstalk, it just gets recycled

[cd98]

Sorry, but us Spur fans are greedy.

[ceperez]

You have hope man..maybe there's an under the table deal that Tavares is traded for diaws contract next season. Can't happen this year because there is no space. So give him a year with spurs east.

See, no dream ever dies on spurstalk, it just gets recycled

Well, Austin Daye got waived... so maybe the Spurs pick him up from the waiver line.

[ceperez]

Most ridiculously insane return. Is this Georgios Printezis at 30 years old even ready to suit up for the NBA?

[Marcus Bryant]

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got fucking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!

:tu

[Chinook]

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

[FromWayDowntown]

The return on Splitter IS Aldridge.

Given the way the details of this were made public, I suspect that there might have been some sort of agreement to make this a bigger trade if the Aldridge thing had fallen through.

[Mr. Body]

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

He's a PF. I can't imagine they'd bring another PF on board with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West already there.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.aims.ca/site/media/aims/HORSE.GIF

[Chinook]

He's a PF. I can't imagine they'd bring another PF on board with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West already there.

It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

[BillMc]

The return on Splitter IS Aldridge.

Given the way the details of this were made public, I suspect that there might have been some sort of agreement to make this a bigger trade if the Aldridge thing had fallen through.

Yep. Hawks get Splitter. We get Aldridge. Portland gets nothing.

[ceperez]

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

SF/PF ... but looking at his pathetic stats, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgios_Printezis

Last year he had the highest scoring average of his career.

I agree with you... if a 2007 pick isn't likely to come over, then why even bother giving it away?

I don't think this guy can make it in the NBA though.

[Mr. Body]

It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

[Chinook]

I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

Next off-season, is what I was talking about.

[NASpurs]

:lmao if the aldridge deal didn't happen

Spurs would had gone DeAndre Jordan on the Hawks :lol

[Mr. Body]

Next off-season, is what I was talking about.

Oh, maybe.

[ceperez]

I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

He plays for a Greek team... haven't you been watching the news about Greece lately?

[Mr. Body]

He plays for a Greek team... haven't you been watching the news about Greece lately?

So what? Are they burning players for warmth? He can move to Spain or Israel or something.

[jyra]

He would be a stretch 4/hustle guy, his outside shot is not that great though. Loves putting up floaters and flip shots. His ability to switch onto smaller players on D is probably his best asset but I'm not sure how well that translates against NBA guards.

[baseline bum]

It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

You think? The Spurs should have $10 million or so to pay West assuming something hovering around a $90 million 2016 cap, and the 2016 free agent crop is pretty weak anyways. I though Diaw was fully guaranteed until 2017-18 when the Spurs have an option on his deal.

[TimDunkem]

Holy fuck. Is anyone around here ever happy?

"Trading Splitter to Atlanta essentially netted us Aldridge and West, but we only got rights and a pick from Atlanta directly...:cry Oh well...at least we might be able to pick up Austin Daye from the waiver wire...:cry"

[ceperez]

So what? Are they burning players for warmth? He can move to Spain or Israel or something.

What I mean is, his Greek team will be so broke that they can't pay him.

[Chinook]

You think? The Spurs should have $10 million or so to pay West assuming something hovering around a $90 million 2016 cap, and the 2016 free agent crop is pretty weak anyways. I though Diaw was fully guaranteed until 2017-18 when the Spurs have an option on his deal.

The Spurs are going to majorly capped out next season. Hell, they'll be pushing the tax very soon this year. I dunno if they'll have space for West or if they even want to reup him. A lot is still up in the air.

Diaw has $3 Million this next season guaranteed. The rest and all of next season is not. No option, though.

[Mr. Body]

What I mean is, his Greek team will be so broke that they can't pay him.

That's possible, but I'd imagine other Euro teams could pay him a lot more than NBA minimum if he's any good.

[nickdaquick]

Some fans will never be satisfied.

[ceperez]

That's possible, but I'd imagine other Euro teams could pay him a lot more than NBA minimum if he's any good.

Did you see his stats? They aren't any good.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs are going to majorly capped out next season. Hell, they'll be pushing the tax very soon this year. I dunno if they'll have space for West or if they even want to reup him. A lot is still up in the air.

Diaw has $3 Million this next season guaranteed. The rest and all of next season is not. No option, though.

Their payroll should be about $80 million next season assuming both Duncan and Ginobili return, and Manu returning for a second season is probably a pipe dream.

EDIT: Seems more like about $84 million counting the rises in LMA and Kawhi's salaries due to the higher cap. Yeah, they could lose West if Manu plays another year.

[ceperez]

Some fans will never be satisfied.

I think you got it wrong. I'm pretty thrilled about the Spurs move this offseason.

What I don't like is what the Hawks gave in return for a gift. Bunch of ingrates!

[TimDunkem]

Some fans will never be satisfied.
Here especially. If we traded a future second round pick for LeBron, there would be someone here arguing against it.

[testies]

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

[TimDunkem]

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend
You're joking I'm sure but, if not, this might be one of the worst posts on this site ever.

[spurraider21]

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend
and then aldridge drops 38 and we win by 14 anyway

[Dex]

Not sure why people find this surprising. Sure, it looks lop-sided when you compare the talent level on paper, but this trade was a straight salary dump for the Spurs. If the Spurs got talent back, they would've been paying for it...which defeats the purpose of dumping salary. Atlanta was probably one of few, if not the only team that was willing to help the Spurs move Splitter just so they could clear room for LMA. They had all the leverage, and they used it.

Top 55 protected...:lol How useless is that?

[kobyz]

The Greek guy is a stretch four and will be better than bonner if he comes over...

[baseline bum]

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

I thought Parker was Diaw's best friend on the team?

[Chinook]

Their payroll should be about $80 million next season assuming both Duncan and Ginobili return, and Manu returning for a second season is probably a pipe dream.

EDIT: Seems more like about $84 million counting the rises in LMA and Kawhi's salaries due to the higher cap. Yeah, they could lose West if Manu plays another year.

They've both got options, so I think them returning is going to involve them getting paid. Plus the first-rounders HAVE to come over at some point. And McCallum is going to be an RFA and want to get paid (whether the Spurs pay him is a different matter). 2017 should see the Spurs flush with cap space. But next season, no.

[cd021]

Da Fuck?

We literally gave him away. ATL had 7 second rounders in the next 3 years and we get a pick that won't convey.

[MI21]

Great deal for both sides in the end, will not complain.

[Aztecfan03]

You're joking I'm sure but, if not, this might be one of the worst posts on this site ever.
He's a :troll

[baseline bum]

They've both got options, so I think them returning is going to involve them getting paid. Plus the first-rounders HAVE to come over at some point. And McCallum is going to be an RFA and want to get paid (whether the Spurs pay him is a different matter). 2017 should see the Spurs flush with cap space. But next season, no.

The MLE will probably be about $7.5 million next year and the Spurs will still have Bird Rights on Duncan. Won't have them on Ginobili though, crap.

[daledondale]

Great deal for both sides in the end, will not complain.

[Old School 44]

Like people said, great indirect deal - Aldridge for Splitter.
Best case for all parties involved.

Splitter gets moved to a coach, team, system he's familiar with.
Atlanta's in the East, so they will make the playoffs and make LBJ work a little harder.
Splitter's not joining a West contender.
Spurs get the $$$ to sign Aldridge.

[Chinook]

The MLE will probably be about $7.5 million next year and the Spurs will still have Bird Rights on Duncan. Won't have them on Ginobili though, crap.

The MLE doesn't scale with salary anymore, and the Spurs will have Bird rights on both Tim and Manu. But their cap holds will be 50-percent bigger than their current salaries.

[SupremeGuy]

:lol so for nothingIt's all about that cap space...

[Das Texan]

Hot little deal!

[baseline bum]

The MLE doesn't scale with salary anymore, and the Spurs will have Bird rights on both Tim and Manu. But their cap holds will be 50-percent bigger than their current salaries.

How are the Spurs going to have Bird Rights on Manu? Unless you're talking about using capspace instead of renouncing and using the room exception.

[Obstructed_View]

Thats lame as fuck

If I told you two months ago that the Spurs would be in a three-team trade where they got Lamarcus Aldridge and gave up Tiago Splitter to the eastern conference, would you have been happy?

[Chinook]

How are the Spurs going to have Bird Rights on Manu? Unless you're talking about using capspace instead of renouncing and using the room exception.

Renouncement doesn't kill the "Bird clock" as I've heard it called. It just prevents teams from using the rights that year. So next year, Manu will once again be a vested Bird free agent.

[Chinook]

If I told you two months ago that the Spurs would be in a three-team trade where they got Lamarcus Aldridge and gave up Tiago Splitter to the eastern conference, would you have been happy?

If that's what actually happened, yeah.

[baseline bum]

Renouncement doesn't kill the "Bird clock" as I've heard it called. It just prevents teams from using the rights that year. So next year, Manu will once again be a vested Bird free agent.

Nice. That's pretty shitty the MLE is no longer tied to average salaries. Man Hunter really fucked the players over in 2011.

[Das Texan]

Nice. That's pretty shitty the MLE is no longer tied to average salaries. Man Hunter really fucked the players over in 2011.

He may have been the worst union head in pro sports since the advent of unions in pro sports.

[Obstructed_View]

If that's what actually happened, yeah.

Isn't it? Do we care how it happens if it happens? The bonus to the above scenario is, Portland got nothing in the deal.

[Obstructed_View]

He may have been the worst union head in pro sports since the advent of unions in pro sports.

http://legacy.thenationnetwork.net/uploads/Image/donald-fehr.jpeg

[DPG21920]

ATL got one over on the Spurs in a bubble but makes total sense on both sides. It's on now.

[Das Texan]

http://legacy.thenationnetwork.net/uploads/Image/donald-fehr.jpeg

nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

[Chinook]

Isn't it? Do we care how it happens if it happens? The bonus to the above scenario is, Portland got nothing in the deal.

The idea of a three-way trade would be for the Spurs to stay over the cap (which would have had a ton of value to the Spurs). Because that didn't happen, I was pretty adamant that the Spurs should get value for Splitter.

[Obstructed_View]

nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.

[Mnky]

If we had got no Aldridge, this would have sucked. But just.basically a 3 team trade with blazers getting nothing.

[ElNono]

lmao KBP

[Das Texan]

Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.

That's because Stern never would have allowed it, mostly because he literally GOT EVERYTHING HE WANTED FROM THE UNION AND THEN SOME.

Fehr wasnt going to let the owners bend over the players sans lube.

MLB is very well off now as a result.

[TheGreatYacht]

What a steal for us

[monkeypunk]

lmao KBP

VSpan thread!!

[Andthentherewas21]

SA doesn't get a trade exception from the deal since they are using the Cap-room created by the trade, correct?

[DPG21920]

SA doesn't get a trade exception from the deal since they are using the Cap-room created by the trade, correct?

Semi correct. They get a TE, but have to renounce it for cap space.

[Seventyniner]

nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

He also spawned the great "we have nothing to fear but Fehr himself" line.

[Andthentherewas21]

Semi correct. They get a TE, but have to renounce it for cap space.

Thanks DPG

[FireMicoHalili]

Still a better return than Austin Daye

[Aztecfan03]

Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.
or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

[Darkwaters]

Welcome home Printezis

[Nathan89]

What a terrible return. I would've thought there would be something better out there.

[Nathan89]

The ability to opt out of the trade better have been a part of this deal.

[Obstructed_View]

or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

Big lost season. Matt Williams had a shot at Maris. The Expos were a superteam.

[Das Texan]

or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

Tony Gwynn wasnt hitting .400 and Matt Wiliams wasnt hitting 62 homers that season.

[Sean Cagney]

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

Not really considering they got LA.....

[Das Texan]

Big lost season. Matt Williams had a shot at Maris. The Expos were a superteam.

But the Expos would have been in the World Series. Then Bud Selig fucked up that team with his crap.

[FireMicoHalili]

Watched his highlights. Weird shot mechanics.

[Johnny RIngo]

Lorbek 2.0 - Another foreign player that will never come over. Spurs got jobbed in that trade but it's expected considering they were in a bind and desperately needed the cap space. Fantastic move for the Hawks.

[Marcus Bryant]

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Some of you are in dire need of that.

[ElNono]

:lol I'll be always thankful to Tiago for #5, but come on, this was a no brainer...

[Obstructed_View]

Tony Gwynn wasnt hitting .400 and Matt Wiliams wasnt hitting 62 homers that season.

Too bad we'll never know. Everyone around Gwynn said he never hit better than he did that season, and Williams would have seen the pitches because of Bonds.

[GSH]

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got fucking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!


That's exactly right. The return on the Splitter trade was Aldridge. Hawks got a good value, but the Spurs got a legit shot at #6.


A Top-55-protected pick, though. That made me laugh. "Hmmm... if we have the 54 pick, we really need to keep that." I don't think Printezis has any interest in coming over, so it's literally a bag of chips. But we got LMA. This is no time for buyers' remorse.

[Brazil]

Where is KBP ? we need some info... :lol

[GSH]

Semi correct. They get a TE, but have to renounce it for cap space.


I'm just too damned lazy to think it through today, so I'm just gonna ask you.

If the Spurs finish signing guys, and move up over the cap, do they gain a MLE?

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm just too damned lazy to think it through today, so I'm just gonna ask you.

If the Spurs finish signing guys, and move up over the cap, do they gain a MLE?

Nope. Were that it so.

[Texas_Ranger]

Printezis is actualy a pretty good player and can play great defense. Sucks that he will never come to the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

I'm just too damned lazy to think it through today, so I'm just gonna ask you.

If the Spurs finish signing guys, and move up over the cap, do they gain a MLE?

No sir. You only get cap space or MLE.

[cd98]

Now Spurs organization knows what it felt like when Lebron blocked Splitter in 2013 finals.

[TheCerebral1]

Blah. Wonderful return. Rolls eyes. Another Euro bum who will never play in the Silver and Black.

[snickles]

seriously? people are complaining? we're having an early 2000s-lakeresque offseason...and people are complaining that the hawks didn't throw in more after allowing us the cap space to sign LMA and west?

i get people being worried about the backup 3, replacing belli, and even still being worried about the 3rd PG. but complaining about this trade? the trade that was the keystone of the offseason? really?

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Was hoping for Tavares but oh well we get Aldridge out of this whole thing...

[timvp]

If the Spurs get more than a second round pick for Splitter, I'd be surprised. Sure, he's worth more than that but it's the timing that I think cost the Spurs. Instead of allowing the Hawks to explore with their salary cap room, the Spurs needed the deal done ASAP in order to make everything crystal clear prior to the Aldridge meeting. Thus, the Spurs really didn't have much leverage in the negotiations.

It obviously worked out well for the Spurs but I just can't imagine they got anything close to equal value for Splitter. Even if they get essentially nothing, it'd still be a great trade, especially since everything panned out perfectly following this risky move.

That's what I said yesterday, so this is actually a little more than I thought the Spurs would get in the Splitter trade. I've seen Printezis play a few times and he looked pretty darn good. I have no idea if he ever wants to come to the NBA but I think he could be a 9th or 10th man.

[Blizzardwizard]

What were people thinking we were gonna get? Horford? :lol

[TimDunkem]

What were people thinking we were gonna get? Horford? :lol
Just Bazemore...Still, fucking lol. Some here are delusional.

[Aztecfan03]

That's what I said yesterday, so this is actually a little more than I thought the Spurs would get in the Splitter trade. I've seen Printezis play a few times and he looked pretty darn good. I have no idea if he ever wants to come to the NBA but I think he could be a 9th or 10th man.
doubtful. This guy probably never comes and we will probably never get to pick anything for the protected pick.

[Aztecfan03]

What were people thinking we were gonna get? Horford? :lol
A pick that would at least become ours.

[timvp]

doubtful. This guy probably never comes and we will probably never get to pick anything for the protected pick.

I guess I'll dry my tears in a LaMarcus Aldridge jersey.

[Blizzardwizard]

A pick that would at least become ours.

From trading Splitter we signed LaMarcus Aldridge. We wouldn't have been able to sign Aldridge without losing Splitter. Not sure why that return isn't good enough.

[milkyway21]

MVP, & slam dunk champ?

[Darkwaters]

I guess I'll dry my tears in a LaMarcus Aldridge jersey.

Lamar knows how you feel....

http://14bb18348568cf6c48ec-cde16cf5c35d33e882e13bbe648f334c.r8.cf2.rackcdn.co m/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lamar-Lakers.jpg

[kobyz]

We lucky we didn't have to throw in a first rounder just to get rid of splitter, he has no value if not a negative value...

[BatManu20]

:lol at people getting mad at PATFO for this deal. We were the ones trying to salary dump Splitter. Other teams had all the leverage. Did you honestly expect to get something of value in return? The return on Splitter is ALDRIDGE. We simply did Tiago a favor by trading him to Coach Bud in Atlanta.

[Nathan89]

:lol at people getting mad at PATFO for this deal. We were the ones trying to salary dump Splitter. Other teams had all the leverage. Did you honestly expect to get something of value in return? We did Tiago a favor by trading him to Coach Bud in Atlanta.

If there were were multiple teams which one would think there would be then that is leverage.

[Nathan89]

I guess no teams were interested in Splitter if the best you can get is nothing.

[Chinook]

:lol at people getting mad at PATFO for this deal. We were the ones trying to salary dump Splitter. Other teams had all the leverage. Did you honestly expect to get something of value in return? We did Tiago a favor by trading him to Coach Bud in Atlanta.

Probably had a lot to do with it. May have been able to get a better package from another team. But he stays in the family this way. Just a little cruddy for Atlanta to take advantage of it. Though Printezis may give the Spurs a handful of decent years, which would soften the blow. He would have a role starting next season if he wanted it.

[Jwash_1986]

Holy fuck. Is anyone around here ever happy?

"Trading Splitter to Atlanta essentially netted us Aldridge and West, but we only got rights and a pick from Atlanta directly...:cry Oh well...at least we might be able to pick up Austin Daye from the waiver wire...:cry"
Classic album cover w/ Kawhi on it. #CHRONIC1992 #DREDAY

[Darkwaters]

Probably had a lot to do with it. May have been able to get a better package from another team. But he stays in the family this way. Just a little cruddy for Atlanta to take advantage of it. Though Printezis may give the Spurs a handful of decent years, which would soften the blow. He would have a role starting next season if he wanted it.

Have you looked into him recently then? Since he got traded away (like 15 minutes after we drafted him) I haven't paid any attention.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If there were were multiple teams which one would think there would be then that is leverage.

There probably were a few teams able and willing to take his salary into cap space, however, we've no idea if they wanted a pick or another asset for the trouble. Hinkie would have definitely wanted a 1st, there's little doubt about it. Then, Spurs have shown they care about contributors they trade away and Tiago will be a great fit in Atlanta with Bud, much better than sending him to some shithole like Philly or Sacramento. And there's also the possibility that Pop and Bud had a gentleman's agreement for the deal to go through only if the Spurs strike gold in free agency, which other teams wouldn't do.

[Chinook]

Have you looked into him recently then? Since he got traded away (like 15 minutes after we drafted him) I haven't paid any attention.

Nah. But if he's a mobile defensive specialist at the four, that's a huge need. LJC will help in that area as well, but he may be too raw next season.

[BatManu20]

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend


You're joking I'm sure but, if not, this might be one of the worst posts on this site ever.

:lol he's not, sadly.

[Richie]

The Spurs are going to majorly capped out next season. Hell, they'll be pushing the tax very soon this year. I dunno if they'll have space for West or if they even want to reup him. A lot is still up in the air.

Diaw has $3 Million this next season guaranteed. The rest and all of next season is not. No option, though.

Way too early to say this. Not including any money owed to Manu, Timmy, keeping Diaw and an $89m cap we've got $13.5m+ in space next year.

If we want to keep West on a fairer contract we'll have more than enough room. I suspect if he leaves we make a play for Batum, great fit as we need another wing, he's still only 26 and there's the obvious Parker, Diaw and Aldridge connection.

[Nathan89]

There probably were a few teams able and willing to take his salary into cap space, however, we've no idea if they wanted a pick or another asset for the trouble. Hinkie would have definitely wanted a 1st, there's little doubt about it. Then, Spurs have shown they care about contributors they trade away and Tiago will be a great fit in Atlanta with Bud, much better than sending him to some shithole like Philly or Sacramento. And there's also the possibility that Pop and Bud had a gentleman's agreement for the deal to go through only if the Spurs strike gold in free agency, which other teams wouldn't do.

Enes Kanter is on the verge of making 17.5mil per year. The spurs shouldn't have to trade anything to get rid of Splitter and they should be able to get something in return.

[slick'81]

Bbbb but spurs refused splitter to teams on draft night surely the spurs could of gotten more in return?just kidding neway this is what we expected a guy the spurs would never use and a pick that would probably be worthless

[Marcus Bryant]

I guess I'll dry my tears in a LaMarcus Aldridge jersey.

[Spurtacular]

Hawks were doing the Spurs a favor. The returned the favor by not haggling.

[GSH]

Maybe we could send that Top-55 protected second-rounder to the Sixers. Hinkie loves to stockpile draft picks. Brett Brown could put in a good word, since he knows they aren't going to compete any time soon, anyway.



Hawks were doing the Spurs a favor. The returned the favor by not haggling.

I think they did each other a favor. And I'm sure it doesn't hurt to have people from your system scattered through other organizations in the league. Pop's habit of encouraging Spurs FO and assistants to move up, even if it means moving out is a good thing.

[tholdren]

But tiago splitter is an elite defender any team would max him

[dunkman]

The "verbal deal" the Spurs have with the Hawks was "if Aldridge signs with the Spurs, then Splitter goes for a trade exception, a player that won't ever come and a pick that's top-55 protected".

A $10M trade exception landed an all-star player more then once, in a later trade

[bluebellmaniac]

The "verbal deal" the Spurs have with the Hawks was "if Aldridge signs with the Spurs, then Splitter goes for a trade exception, a player that won't ever come and a pick that's top-55 protected".

A $10M trade exception landed an all-star player more then once, in a later trade

The trade exception would count against the cap. I'm sure it was renounced as we couldn't have signed LMA for the max with it on the books.

We signed him with under the cap money.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

No, it's not. It was a salary dump to get LMA, pure and simple. We had virtually no leverage. We only got something in this because league rules require a trade to have something move in either direction!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Enes Kanter is on the verge of making 17.5mil per year. The spurs shouldn't have to trade anything to get rid of Splitter and they should be able to get something in return.


Hawks were doing the Spurs a favor. The returned the favor by not haggling.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It's stunning top me that some people don't understand this transaction. :rolleyes

Bigger picture, people.

[K...]

It's stunning top me that some people don't understand this transaction. :rolleyes

Bigger picture, people.

People are greedy. They mistake the spurs maximalist position as the target. Splitter is absolutely worth a mid first pick but the spurs got the luxury of picking the time which cost them

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

People are greedy. They mistake the spurs maximalist position as the target. Splitter is absolutely worth a mid first pick but the spurs got the luxury of picking the time which cost them

Well said. We paid for the timing.

[Uriel]

Atlanta had the 2nd best record in the NBA last season. We could actually get that 2nd round pick.

[Walter Donovan]

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got freaking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!

[testies]

I doubt this printzis guy is any good

"athletic" euros always suck balls in nba.. see papanikolau.. the euros that translate well are skilled guys.. there is enough athleticism in nba

[Aztecfan03]

:lol at people getting mad at PATFO for this deal. We were the ones trying to salary dump Splitter. Other teams had all the leverage. Did you honestly expect to get something of value in return? The return on Splitter is ALDRIDGE. We simply did Tiago a favor by trading him to Coach Bud in Atlanta.
Not mad, just would have liked to at least get something. The deal is a steal for Atlanta and we likely gave up more for a 3rd string pg.

[Aztecfan03]

:lol he's not, sadly.
don't know who is worse, him or kobyz.

[AaronY]

Pretty sad Mosgov goes for two firsts and this is all he brings

[kobyz]

Printezis consider to be the Robert Horry of Europe thanks to his clutch moments and game winners...

[kobyz]

Printezis can be Ilyasova type player with a little Casspi in him and bigger balls...

[Kawhitstorm]

Pretty sad Mosgov goes for two firsts and this is all he brings

Philly gave up Vucevic & a 1st rd pick to dump Iggy's salary...... just be thankful that Bud didn't demand Kyle & a 1st rd pick to take Tiago's salary.

[Chinook]

Philly gave up Vucevic & a 1st rd pick to dump Iggy's salary

Is that how you revised the Bynum trade?

[Kawhitstorm]

Is that how you revised the Bynum trade?

Also known as the heist that ceremoniously marked he beginning of Sixers grand tanking plan. Hinkie wanted to clean house & usher in the tank-a-ton era by trading for a guy that FAILED a physical. Hinkie basically traded every player that was drafted/signed by the previous regime including dumping Iggy's salary by throwing in Vucevic & a 1st rd pick. Iggy would have made it harder to tank but the fact Bynum wasn't going to suit up made it VERY convenient as he wanted as many lotto picks as possible ASAP.

[Chinook]

Also known as the heist that ceremoniously marked he beginning of Sixers grand tanking plan. Hinkie wanted to clean house & usher in the tank-a-ton era by trading for a guy that FAILED a physical. Hinkie basically traded every player that was drafted/signed by the previous regime including dumping Iggy's salary by throwing in Vucevic & a 1st rd pick. Iggy would have made it harder to tank but the fact Bynum wasn't going to suit up made it VERY convenient as he wanted as many lotto picks as possible ASAP.

No. Hinkie wasn't even in charge when that trade happened. He didn't take over until the next season. Before that, they were a playoff team that considered themselves one star away from a title.

Regardless, if they just wanted to move Iggy and tank they could have gotten the first-rounder and Afflalo that Denver gave up for Iggy. They didn't need to give a pick.

[kobyz]

Also known as the heist that ceremoniously marked he beginning of Sixers grand tanking plan. Hinkie wanted to clean house & usher in the tank-a-ton era by trading for a guy that FAILED a physical. Hinkie basically traded every player that was drafted/signed by the previous regime including dumping Iggy's salary by throwing in Vucevic & a 1st rd pick. Iggy would have made it harder to tank but the fact Bynum wasn't going to suit up made it VERY convenient as he wanted as many lotto picks as possible ASAP.

That's you shity poster from the apalisoc group?

[Marcus Bryant]

That's what I said yesterday, so this is actually a little more than I thought the Spurs would get in the Splitter trade. I've seen Printezis play a few times and he looked pretty darn good. I have no idea if he ever wants to come to the NBA but I think he could be a 9th or 10th man.

Would make sense, need a little time to finalize player contract and any team buyout, and, as noted, Greece isn't the easiest place to do business these days.

[RayTdropout]

Going to miss tiago