How Did The Spurs Forgive Tony Parker for the Brent Barry Wife Infidelities?

[Ghost Writer]

Forgive me, as I have been gone for years, but I am still intrigued about how the famously classy Spurs were able to look past their point guard Parker aggressively flirting with former teammate Barry's wife.

I did a recent Google search to dig up dirt and have watched virtually every interview with the Big Three to see how this was dealt with in house, but nothing.

Every time I see Barry analyze Spurs highlights on NBA TV, I think about this unfortunate affair.

It's been years, but still wonder about this scandal to the day.

Does anyone know what really happened?

How did the Spurs "trust" Tony again?

Have Parker and Barry made peace?



Question.

[Mr. Body]

I wish Barry was more part of the organization. I loved that guy.

[ducks]

WELCOME BACK

SPURS GOT A BIG TIME FA YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY!

[NASpurs]

Ruh-roh :stirpot:

[ChumpDumper]

Fat jokes.

[SpurPadre]

I joke about it a lot but at the end of the day, it's between TP and Brent to settle and deal with, tbh.

[Kermit]

I'm sure it hasn't been forgotten by Spurs players and execs, especially when their wives happen to be in Tony's presence.

[Brazil]

Does anyone know what really happened?

How did the Spurs "trust" Tony again?

Have Parker and Barry made peace?


Question.

Answers

No, just speculation and some texting mentionned in divorce file

They did, the how is irrelevant

Nobody knows and nobody gives a shit rightly so

[xtremesteven33]

I really dont know how the story didnt become a media stormfest that it should have. I gotta give credit mostly to Pop for really keeping the issues in house. Also very classy of Brent to not air his grievances publicly. I on the other hand would have reacted differently.

[Vic Petro]

Housewife thread

[Dex]

Answers

No, just speculation and some texting mentionned in divorce file

They did, the how is irrelevant

Nobody knows and nobody gives a shit rightly so

Pretty sure Barry still has it out for Parker. When he does commentary on the Spurs, it's like he goes out of his way to avoid saying Parker's name or give him any praise.

I don't blame him, tbh. Barry was one of my favorite Spurs, and Parker did him dirty. I don't condone all the Parker hate that goes on around here, but...that was seriously fucked up and will always tarnish his legacy a bit for me.

[jag]

What the hell is this?

[K...]

It's the omerta. Pop knows people.


Really, it was all for the best as the spurs used it again on Duncan's divorce. Not a peep. Just the court documents. Probably a few more secrets we'll never know. Winning papers over a lot.

[SpurPadre]

I really dont know how the story didnt become a media stormfest that it should have. I gotta give credit mostly to Pop for really keeping the issues in house. Also very classy of Brent to not air his grievances publicly. I on the other hand would have reacted differently.

If TP played in L.A. or New York and that happened, it would've wrecked his career beyond repair, tbh.

[Horse]

I wonder does this impact the Parker hate?

[hater]

Short bus thread imo

[spurs10]

Not so sure Erin Barry was the one that had an affair. She has adamantly denied doing so in a very convincing way siting she's 'a loving mother and would never do that to them.' This all seemed like Eva Longria's smear campaign and had nothing to do with why Erin left Brent....one of my favorite Spurs as well. None of my business anyway.

[Ghost Writer]

If TP played in L.A. or New York and that happened, it would've wrecked his career beyond repair, tbh.

Duncan was the victim in that divorce, no?

I am shocked that Parker isn't the darling of this Forum anymore...

[Biernutz]

Forgive me, as I have been gone for years, but I am still intrigued about how the famously classy Spurs were able to look past their point guard Parker aggressively flirting with former teammate Barry's wife.
I did a recent Google search to dig up dirt and have watched virtually every interview with the Big Three to see how this was dealt with in house, but nothing.
Every time I see Barry analyze Spurs highlights on NBA TV, I think about this unfortunate affair.
It's been years, but still wonder about this scandal to the day.
Does anyone know what really happened?
How did the Spurs "trust" Tony again?
Have Parker and Barry made peace?
Question.

A Google search and you found nothing? Sure you did...
Why not do a SpursTalk search and find the 900 threads about it and read them...
Its' old news now that only Parker haters dredge up over and over and over and over and............

[Brazil]

Pretty sure Barry still has it out for Parker. When he does commentary on the Spurs, it's like he goes out of his way to avoid saying Parker's name or give him any praise.

I don't blame him, tbh. Barry was one of my favorite Spurs, and Parker did him dirty. I don't condone all the Parker hate that goes on around here, but...that was seriously fucked up and will always tarnish his legacy a bit for me.

at this point it is mere speculation tbh

You could go also on the "the two couples had couples issue, parker and erin texted each other but nothing really happened, Eva used that to save face in her divorce and get a leverage to negotiate money. Parker has been fucking classy and stay quiet and don't put shit on Eva's ventilator. On erin and brent side, mariage was fucked up anyways"

[K...]

Duncan was the victim in that divorce, no?

I am shocked that Parker isn't the darling of this Forum anymore...

It went from 2-3 die hard anti French haters to a pack of adolescent try hards via the smooth and overwhelming trolling of a Canadian boy posing as spurs fan.

[Ghost Writer]

Don't get all butt hurt about your favorite player, Biernutz. I come around here like Halley's Comet as noted. I found nothing online that even hinted at how the Spurs were able to get past this as a team. If you can't add color to my questions, don't post.

[ElNono]

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[Mikeanaro]

Duncan was the victim in that divorce, no?

I am shocked that Parker isn't the darling of this Forum anymore...
He sucks as a player and as a person no biggie.

[boutons_deux]

Erin Barry Breaks Silence On Tony Parker: ‘I Did Not Have An Affair’

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/erin-barry-breaks-silence-eva-longoria-tony-parker-affair-rumors-i-did-not-have/

[Ghost Writer]

It went from 2-3 die hard anti French haters to a pack of adolescent try hards via the smooth and overwhelming trolling of a Canadian boy posing as spurs fan.

Welp, I loathed Parker since his debut.

[EVAY]

Erin Barry Breaks Silence On Tony Parker: ‘I Did Not Have An Affair’

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/erin-barry-breaks-silence-eva-longoria-tony-parker-affair-rumors-i-did-not-have/

This is the first time I ever read anything like this, but since it is from Erin Barry herself, I assume it has some credibility.

I had always read that the issue was one of "sexting", rather than an actual affair, and several accounts have repeated that.

I certainly don't know for sure nor does anyone else.



I have always wondered this, however: Given the 'classy' Spurs as an organization, and given the fact that this all occurred long before the last contract offer to TP, doesn't it seem surprising, if an affair actually happened that was the cause of a divorce, that the organization would have extended a contract offer to such an allegedly poor teammate as late as 2013? Wouldn't that have been very "un-Spursian"? If TP is the 'cancer' that some on this forum allege him to be, isn't it surprising that the FO gave him such a huge contract? Wouldn't they have been eager to be rid of him?

[itsamanuthree]

Well, the way I see it, the franchise just thought keeping Parker was more important and decided to turn a blind eye on the whole issue big time.

Supposing, of course, no one in the organization condonned Parker for what he did, I guess we just have to accept (well, I have, at least) that some people would choose what's more advantegous to them and the enterprise they are running, than what's more honourable.

Had it happened, though, before, during the first year or so of Parker being in the team, I think the Spurs would have traded his ass right away. But, with the projetc already in motion, with the exitement of having three of the best players in the league and on our way to build a dinasty, it seems to me, as I said, the organization feared changing things around.

On a side note, particularly about Pop, I think his relation with Parker has been rather special. Not talking about how intimate they got to be, that's not the point, but about Pop's coaching of this player. Sure Pop will be always greatful to have had Duncan in the team, a bloody consistent performer and one of the best power forwards ever, and Manu Ginobili, one of the of the most fierce, creative and naturally talented players to have played basketball. But Pop can't claim he made these players from the ground up, took'em from anonimity to the very top of the basketball world, they came to the team already quite mature both in psychological and playing terms. Parker, on the other hand, was right from the start Pop's creation. "Tony, look at this line, you are here and Stockton's here... I'm not asking you to be Stockton, but I do need you to be more in the middle between what you are now and Stockton". He was Pop's experiment the whole time and, aside from how close Pop got to his objective or if he fell short and ended up with a Frankenstein, doesn't matter, not the point here, not hating... the fact is that it was his creation, and Pop must have felt rather unhappy at the prospect of loosing him.

[Marcus Bryant]

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[Biernutz]

Welp, I loathed Parker since his debut.

Why didn't you start this thread "as a Tony Parker Hater" instead some crap
innocence question. Your just a troll account of another hater.......

[DesignatedT]

take this shit to the club

[EVAY]

Welp, I loathed Parker since his debut.

So, you loathed him before any 'sexting' scandal or anything else.

You certainly have every right to loathe the man and to consider his humanity, as well as his playing abilities, to be suspect. Good of you to acknowledge the pre-existing bias, in fact.

My take has always been that he was never as good a player as some thought him to be and never as bad as others thought him to be. He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy who was (almost literally) whipped into a decent pg by Popovich over his first several years in the league, and who has always tried to do exactly what Pop wanted him to do.

I also think his morals are about as average as most professional basketball players. I think the genuine shock that some posters herein seem to have over the scandal is a fairly significant display of naiveté.

People who hate him (as you admittedly do ghost-writer) can and do beat this dead horse into the ground every chance they get. But clearly, the organization did its normal Spurs thing. Close ranks and shut everybody else out.

TP has never, in my mind, been as good as he appears to think himself to be, but he has been a really hard worker except when hurt. I think he is egotistic and vain. Having said that, it is all irrelevant to what he brings the team. PATFO seem to value him differently than the cadre of posters herein who have their own agenda and cannot seem to control their need to try to advance that agenda every chance they get. The fact that some of us don't actively 'loathe' the man as you do is grounds on this forum to be called all manner of unseemly names, reflective of little more than a classically adolescent inability to recognize nuanced assessments as opposed to the "You're either with me or against me" mentality.

[Ghost Writer]

Biernutz, I was posting in the forefather of this Forum when you were swinging in your daddy's Beer Nuts.

My questions were legitimate and very little light has been shed that I didn't already know from my past research.

I'm not an impostor. I'm not a troll. I'll post how I want, when I want, to whomever I want. You've added zero value to this discussion and taken it down a dark road.

It's okay to be a Parker guy. But don't fault others for asking questions or not sharing your views.

[SnakeBoy]

I had always read that the issue was one of "sexting", rather than an actual affair, and several accounts have repeated that.


I think the real issue was that Eva was an old chick that didn't want to give Tony babies.

[Biernutz]

So, you loathed him before any 'sexting' scandal or anything else.

You certainly have every right to loathe the man and to consider his humanity, as well as his playing abilities, to be suspect. Good of you to acknowledge the pre-existing bias, in fact.

My take has always been that he was never as good a player as some thought him to be and never as bad as others thought him to be. He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy who was (almost literally) whipped into a decent pg by Popovich over his first several years in the league, and who has always tried to do exactly what Pop wanted him to do.

I also think his morals are about as average as most professional basketball players. I think the genuine shock that some posters herein seem to have over the scandal is fairly significant display of naiveté.

People who hate him (as you admittedly do ghost-writer) can and do beat this dead horse into the ground every chance they get. But clearly, the organization did its normal Spurs thing. Close ranks and shut everybody else out.


TP has never, in my mind, been as good as he appears to think himself to be, but he has been a really hard worker except when hurt. I think he is egotistic and vain. Having said that, it is all irrelevant to what he brings the team. PATFO seem to value him differently than the cadre of posters herein who have their own agenda and cannot seem to control their need to try to advance that agenda every chance they get. The fact that some of us don't actively 'loathe' the man as you do is grounds on this forum to be called all manner of unseemly names, reflective of little more than a classically adolescent inability to recognize nuanced assessments as opposed to the "You're either with me or against me" mentality.


Ghost Writer is just another hater with a troll account........

[Biernutz]

Biernutz, I was posting in the forefather of this Forum when you were swinging in your daddy's Beer Nuts.

My questions were legitimate and very little light has been shed that I didn't already know from my past research.

I'm not an impostor. I'm not a troll. I'll post how I want, when I want, to whomever I want. You've added zero value to this discussion and taken it down a dark road.

It's okay to be a Parker guy. But don't fault others for asking questions or not sharing your views.

you are a troll admit it.....

[EVAY]

I think the real issue was that Eva was an old chick that didn't want to give Tony babies.

Actually, I think that Eva had the hots for Tony and was something of a Cougar. I remember thinking when the local news ran a video story on her quoting her as saying "my favorite Spur is Tony Parker" before they had ever even met, that she was about 8 years older than Tony and wayyyyyyy more sophisticated. I was surprised when they got married and wondered how she imagined that someone as young as him would be able to stick with marriage vows on a professional basketball schedule. Seriously?

[Marcus Bryant]

What the hell is this?

Well, it's not the 1,000th thread about Parker's weight, that's for certain.

[Blake]

Ghost Writer is just another hater with a troll account........

That has a million posts in his count

[Blake]

Well, it's not the 1,000th thread about Parker's weight, that's for certain.

A million like this guy

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, good post OP..you should post more often, tbh..

[dabom]

Parker didn't flirt with his wife. He fucked her plain and simple. People are fucking stupid on these boards.

[spurs10]

at this point it is mere speculation tbh

You could go also on the "the two couples had couples issue, parker and erin texted each other but nothing really happened, Eva used that to save face in her divorce and get a leverage to negotiate money. Parker has been fucking classy and stay quiet and don't put shit on Eva's ventilator. On erin and brent side, mariage was fucked up anyways" :bobo

[dabom]

High school sweetheart mother of 3 or 4 married for many fucking years and they divorce for flirting texts. :lmao

[FromWayDowntown]

LOL at GhostWriter being a troll.

I've never really cared how the Spurs resolved whatever strife might have come out of a tryst between Tony Parker and Erin Barry. Whatever happened is what happened, and from the outside, it appears that everyone handled the issues (if there were any) like grown-ups. Tony's alleged conduct isn't very Spurs-ian, but it's also not particularly heinous in any objective sense. Assuming there was an affair, he was tempted by a beautiful woman and may have acted on that impulse. It's a dick move, but it's not a crime. Whatever his teammates thought of him in that circumstance, the gang that's been here throughout doesn't appear to have allowed any negative views of Parker to impact their play or their willingness to play with him.

I don't know how they got to that point; my educated guess would be that everyone aired their grievances and concerns in private and then agreed to move on from there with no public drama. It's what grown up people with real jobs and real problems have to do all the time.

[Ginobilly]

Parker didn't flirt with his wife. He fucked her plain and simple. People are fucking stupid on these boards.

People who think it was only "sexting"(I believe Erin:cry) have never had a girlfriend/wife ever in their lives. Like women never lie to save face?.... It's a sixth sense that men develop after having so many gf's that you just "know" when they're lying their panties off about fucking other dudes. Take for example Delonte and Gloria's affair...... They both deny it( because they don't want to hurt bron's feeling) but everybody in the basketball world knows they did.

[dabom]

Even eva broke up tony. You can bet it wasn't just sexting. :lmao

[Hemotivo]

Parker didn't flirt with his wife. He fucked her plain and simple. People are fucking stupid on these boards.

:wow

[Gervin44Silas13]

the pussy was there so he took it and hit it!!!!!
and hit Eva's pussy a bit little more


Tony's a pimp!!!!:bobo:hat

[CosmicCowboy]

Erin Barry is so screaming hot I just couldn't blame Tony for hitting it.

[GSH]

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[Obstructed_View]

People whine about the size of threads while we discuss actual basketball shit, and meanwhile this discussion goes on. I hope all the other posts are people telling Ghost what a dumb fuck he is.

Because he's a dumb fuck.

[CosmicCowboy]

Biernutz, I was posting in the forefather of this Forum when you were swinging in your daddy's Beer Nuts.

My questions were legitimate and very little light has been shed that I didn't already know from my past research.

I'm not an impostor. I'm not a troll. I'll post how I want, when I want, to whomever I want. You've added zero value to this discussion and taken it down a dark road.

It's okay to be a Parker guy. But don't fault others for asking questions or not sharing your views.

Sup Ghost? Damn...you and Spursfan back...is this a sign of the impending apocalypse?

[GSH]

Biernutz, I was posting in the forefather of this Forum when you were swinging in your daddy's Beer Nuts.

My questions were legitimate and very little light has been shed that I didn't already know from my past research.

I'm not an impostor. I'm not a troll. I'll post how I want, when I want, to whomever I want. You've added zero value to this discussion and taken it down a dark road.

It's okay to be a Parker guy. But don't fault others for asking questions or not sharing your views.


LOL. You have to admit - disappearing for years, and then coming back just to post... this?

As for "classy" and "trust" and all that? John Boy Walton was fucking Mary Ellen, and it never caused a problem with the cast.

[Macca76]

So, you loathed him before any 'sexting' scandal or anything else.

You certainly have every right to loathe the man and to consider his humanity, as well as his playing abilities, to be suspect. Good of you to acknowledge the pre-existing bias, in fact.

My take has always been that he was never as good a player as some thought him to be and never as bad as others thought him to be. He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy who was (almost literally) whipped into a decent pg by Popovich over his first several years in the league, and who has always tried to do exactly what Pop wanted him to do.

I also think his morals are about as average as most professional basketball players. I think the genuine shock that some posters herein seem to have over the scandal is a fairly significant display of naiveté.

People who hate him (as you admittedly do ghost-writer) can and do beat this dead horse into the ground every chance they get. But clearly, the organization did its normal Spurs thing. Close ranks and shut everybody else out.

TP has never, in my mind, been as good as he appears to think himself to be, but he has been a really hard worker except when hurt. I think he is egotistic and vain. Having said that, it is all irrelevant to what he brings the team. PATFO seem to value him differently than the cadre of posters herein who have their own agenda and cannot seem to control their need to try to advance that agenda every chance they get. The fact that some of us don't actively 'loathe' the man as you do is grounds on this forum to be called all manner of unseemly names, reflective of little more than a classically adolescent inability to recognize nuanced assessments as opposed to the "You're either with me or against me" mentality.

He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy => that's a bit harsch don't you think ? Average-skill set ? Really ??? I really think average skill set players would dream to have his ability to finish at the rim

About the egotistic and vain comment, I also think you get carried away a little bit. Sure he's got ego, but it doesn't seem this bad.

I didn't remember you had such a bad opinion of him, I actually thought it was the opposite.

[EVAY]

He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy => that's a bit harsch don't you think ? Average-skill set ? Really ??? I really think average skill set players would dream to have his ability to finish at the rim

About the egotistic and vain comment, I also think you get carried away a little bit. Sure he's got ego, but it doesn't seem this bad.

I didn't remember you had such a bad opinion of him, I actually thought it was the opposite.

I think you thought the opposite because I tend to stand up for most team members (including Parker) who are the recipients of hatred. Remember, I also said that I thought he always worked hard and did exactly what his coach told him to do. I neither hate him nor love him.

Regarding the skill set: I remember once when I got into it with Timvp when Tony had his first (and perhaps ONLY?) triple double several years back. I thought that it was such a big deal for this player that I thought that he should get the highest grade possible for the game he played. Timvp had only given him a somewhat lesser grade (I don't remember what it was) and my point in the discussion back and forth was that he was NOT that great a player, and thus being able to perform a triple double was a HUGE factor for him.

I really have always thought that his skill set was pretty average (except for his speed which is less as he ages of course), but that he made the very most of that ability by working so hard, and by following Pop's instructions so closely. I have always said that he was Pop's creation - and a reflection of the kind of pg that Pop wanted to be himself.

Let's look at it...he will never have the court vision or passing ability of a Manu or even a Diaw. What he does have is the ability and willingness to run the offensive set that Pop wants played at any point in time. Lots of folks here spend a great deal of their own and everyone else's time bemoaning TP's play calling, seemingly unaware that he is doing what his coach tells him to do.

I do believe that he has a higher opinion of his abilities than is warranted, and in that respect I call him egotistical and vain. Perhaps that is too harsh. Maybe I should have just said he has a higher opinion of his abilities than is warranted and leave it at that. You may be quite right about that.

Personally I am glad that TP is our pg, partly because I watched Avery Johnson before him and George Hill alongside him for a long time. BELIEVE me, I prefer TP to either of those...and I prefer him to people like Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and lots of other 'more athletic' or 'better skilled' players. He is great for this team.

And since I want the team to succeed, I want him to succeed, and I refuse to hate on him. I have stopped defending him all the time because it seems to really feed the trolls, and I am convinced that they want to hate him and will hate him, regardless of how he plays, what he does, or how he acts. Those people who insist on that are just not worth my time.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Forgive me, as I have been gone for years, but I am still intrigued about how the famously classy Spurs were able to look past their point guard Parker aggressively flirting with former teammate Barry's wife.

I did a recent Google search to dig up dirt and have watched virtually every interview with the Big Three to see how this was dealt with in house, but nothing.

Every time I see Barry analyze Spurs highlights on NBA TV, I think about this unfortunate affair.

It's been years, but still wonder about this scandal to the day.

Does anyone know what really happened?

How did the Spurs "trust" Tony again?

Have Parker and Barry made peace?



Question.

GW!!! :D

Good question btw. I'd say they dealt with it by never leaving their wives alone with Tony! :lol

However they dealt with it, they kept it private. CIA rules. ;)

[CubanMustGo]

Not this tired shit again.

[apalisoc_9]

Hey OP, good to see you back posting!

[dabom]

Hey OP, good to see you back posting!

:lol

[Biernutz]

How many years ago was this . It's like a bunch of old ladies rehashing the past every single day.
To all you haters ...make your case about what is on the court all this other stuff is old lady old news.
Tony Eva,Brent and Erin was over years ago and all of them moved on with their lives. The only
ones that can't move on are parrot SpursTalk posters....pathetic......

[HarlemHeat37]

Average skill set for Parker is quite the reach, tbh..

Even ignoring physical ability as part of a skill-set, he's one of the best finishers at the rim in NBA history..I'm not even referring to his actual percentage or production at the rim, I'm just speaking strictly on his touch and English on the ball, I can't think of many players that have been better in that facet of the game..some of the angles he used to score from under the basket didn't even make any sense..

[Biernutz]

Average skill set for Parker is quite the reach, tbh..

Even ignoring physical ability as part of a skill-set, he's one of the best finishers at the rim in NBA history..I'm not even referring to his actual percentage or production at the rim, I'm just speaking strictly on his touch and English on the ball, I can't think of many players that have been better in that facet of the game..some of the angles he used to score from under the basket didn't even make any sense..

last year tony going to the basket launched up a lot of shots that got blocked. He was missing
that first step speed because of the hamstring that let the defender get in position to block
that to the blackboard shot.

[HarlemHeat37]

last year tony going to the basket launched up a lot of shots that got blocked. He was missing
that first step speed because of the hamstring that let the defender get in position to block
that to the blackboard shot.

That doesn't change his skill-set, though..of course Parker is one of many players that is more reliant on physical ability than skill, but it doesn't mean that he wasn't very skilled in his prime, especially at finishing around the basket.

[james evans]

Pretty sure Barry still has it out for Parker. When he does commentary on the Spurs, it's like he goes out of his way to avoid saying Parker's name or give him any praise.

I don't blame him, tbh. Barry was one of my favorite Spurs, and Parker did him dirty. I don't condone all the Parker hate that goes on around here, but...that was seriously fucked up and will always tarnish his legacy a bit for me.
Maybe he has, but i have NEVER heard him say parker's name since he's been on nbatv. NEVER!!

[houston spurs fan]

He never stuck it in. Who cares?

[HarlemHeat37]

People who think it was only "sexting"(I believe Erin:cry) have never had a girlfriend/wife ever in their lives. Like women never lie to save face?.... It's a sixth sense that men develop after having so many gf's that you just "know" when they're lying their panties off about fucking other dudes. Take for example Delonte and Gloria's affair...... They both deny it( because they don't want to hurt bron's feeling) but everybody in the basketball world knows they did.

Sexting is still cheating IMO..what kind of nigga would be OK with his girl sending texts like that to another man, tbh?:lol..

[YGWHI]

He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy => that's a bit harsch don't you think ? Average-skill set ? Really ??? I really think average skill set players would dream to have his ability to finish at the rim


Average skill set for Parker is quite the reach, tbh..

I think he was rigth about his skillset. After all Manu was the most skilled player of the Spurs guards, better court vision/passing skills/shooting than Tony, and the same ability to finish at the rim.

[apalisoc_9]

I think he was rigth about his skillset. After all Manu was the most skilled player of the Spurs guards, better court vision/passing skills/shooting than Tony, and the same ability to finish at the rim.

hey welcome to the board bro.

[YGWHI]

hey welcome to the board bro.
Thanks!

[glen907]

Parker, on the other hand, was right from the start Pop's creation. "Tony, look at this line, you are here and Stockton's here... I'm not asking you to be Stockton, but I do need you to be more in the middle between what you are now and Stockton". He was Pop's experiment the whole time and, aside from how close Pop got to his objective or if he fell short and ended up with a Frankenstein, doesn't matter, not the point here, not hating... the fact is that it was his creation, and Pop must have felt rather unhappy at the prospect of loosing him
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mutha fucker was starting pg at age 19 and somehow he was pop creation ...gtfoh....pop help him grow his game as coaches should but dude had talent and always been one of the toughest pg in the league....you indeed are just another hater...what did parker fuck your wife too?

[glen907]

How many years ago was this . It's like a bunch of old ladies rehashing the past every single day.
To all you haters ...make your case about what is on the court all this other stuff is old lady old news.
Tony Eva,Brent and Erin was over years ago and all of them moved on with their lives. The only
ones that can't move on are parrot SpursTalk posters....pathetic.
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a bunch of pussies worried about a man fucking another man wife....fuck brent barry he obviously wasn't doing something right....tell brent to learn how to draw a foul on a pump fake

[itsamanuthree]

Parker, on the other hand, was right from the start Pop's creation. "Tony, look at this line, you are here and Stockton's here... I'm not asking you to be Stockton, but I do need you to be more in the middle between what you are now and Stockton". He was Pop's experiment the whole time and, aside from how close Pop got to his objective or if he fell short and ended up with a Frankenstein, doesn't matter, not the point here, not hating... the fact is that it was his creation, and Pop must have felt rather unhappy at the prospect of loosing him
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mutha fucker was starting pg at age 19 and somehow he was pop creation ...gtfoh....pop help him grow his game as coaches should but dude had talent and always been one of the toughest pg in the league....you indeed are just another hater...what did parker fuck your wife too?

Geesh, chill dude, everyone's entitled to an opinion. You have yours, I have mine. I don't hate Parker, tho, but I do not like him, don't like him as a person, don't like him as a point guard. What... I'm not forced to like him and I don't.

Also, I never mentioned anything about Parker's talent and toughness, or lack thereof, though I don't think someone questioning him in those regards would necessarilly be hating on him.

And, finally, if you have been following the Spurs for the last decade and a half, or so, and you failed to see Parker's been Pop's brainchild more than any other player on the team, by far, then, whatever, duh, I guess there's not much point in talking to you. If you haven't been following the Spurs all these years, OTOH, then approach discussions with a little more caution, that's my humble advice.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Maybe he has, but i have NEVER heard him say parker's name since he's been on nbatv. NEVER!!

I heard him say Tony one time last season on NBA TV, which shocked me because of the aforementioned situation...

[EVAY]

Average skill set for Parker is quite the reach, tbh..

Even ignoring physical ability as part of a skill-set, he's one of the best finishers at the rim in NBA history..I'm not even referring to his actual percentage or production at the rim, I'm just speaking strictly on his touch and English on the ball, I can't think of many players that have been better in that facet of the game..some of the angles he used to score from under the basket didn't even make any sense..

His ability to finish at the rim was reduced in part by his loss of some of his speed, but even more so by the movement of Duncan away from the low post somewhat in later years. Guys like Duncan and Nesterovich were the equivalent of "pulling guards" in the years when Tony was able to get to the basket so effectively. Even Splitter was a good guy at blocking out shot blockers when he was at his best. But the development of Tony's jumper as an important part of the pick and roll was also a reaction to the fact that he was unable to consistently get to the rim as often in the absence of someone who could block out for him.

An average skill set with a terrific work ethic can produce all-star caliber play in certain offensive sets, and I think that Tony has shown that to be the case. It is one of the reasons that Pop is so proud of Parker's success, imo. Pop never had the skill set that other players did, but he had the work ethic that he thought he could use to overcome that. The "Tony project", i.e., taking a 19 year old kid from France with great speed and a willingness to be coached, and molding him into an effective pg for this offense[/B ]was, [B]imo,, a validation of Pop's belief that he could create a successful version of himself in the NBA.

His willingness to work is one of the reasons (along with remembering how badly I felt for the kid when I used to watch Pop abuse him for the first three or four seasons) that I defend TP from the haters who say he is a scrub or a cancer. He is neither of those things. He is a hard worker whose hard work has helped him develop some shots (his floater and mid-range jumper) that have helped this offense immensely. But pgs are known primarily for their court vision and passing ability. Parker is, imo
about the third best on this team in both of those categories.

I don't mind his assists being lower than lots of other pgs because in Pop's system everybody has to give up some of their stats for the betterment of the team. Tony's job for years was to give the ball to Tim as soon as he crossed the half-court line and then have Tim run an offense that was not conducive to big assist numbers for the point guard role.


Tony is the best pg for this team. As I said in an earlier post, some more athletic pgs would be unable to give up the role and the stats they wanted for themselves.

My biggest problem with posters who hammer him for the last two years and focus only on his struggles with his wheels over that time is that they forget (or never knew) that although he may 'only' be 32 in chronological years, he has played more basketball minutes in the NBA than any other active pg except the guy who is 39...(is that Andre Miller?).

[Spurtacular]

Hollywood starlets are supposed to have short marriages and gain publicity from their turbulent relationships. Longoria got what she wanted. I doubt she even cares one iota about who got hurt in all of this. She got hers.

[itsamanuthree]

Hollywood starlets are supposed to have short marriages and gain publicity from their turbulent relationships. Longoria got what she wanted. I doubt she even cares one iota about who got hurt in all of this. She got hers.

Interesting...

[AFBlue]

The kid made a mistake...was young and apparently unhappy in his relationship with his wife. Whatever was said and however long it took, it's clearly water under the bridge now. I, for one, didn't even think about it since it happened until you brought it up. The children on here, who are no more morally grounded than Parker, like to throw insults his way about it. But they have deeper seated issues with Parker.

Curious why OP is curious...seems an odd topic to bring up off-hand.

[jhuan16]

Maybe Brent is into some kinky cuckold shit.

[RayTdropout]

Over a million posts! So you got the record?

[RayTdropout]

Yes master

[SASdynasty!]

So, you loathed him before any 'sexting' scandal or anything else.

You certainly have every right to loathe the man and to consider his humanity, as well as his playing abilities, to be suspect. Good of you to acknowledge the pre-existing bias, in fact.

My take has always been that he was never as good a player as some thought him to be and never as bad as others thought him to be. He has always seemed to me to be an average-skill set sort of guy who was (almost literally) whipped into a decent pg by Popovich over his first several years in the league, and who has always tried to do exactly what Pop wanted him to do.

I also think his morals are about as average as most professional basketball players. I think the genuine shock that some posters herein seem to have over the scandal is a fairly significant display of naiveté.

People who hate him (as you admittedly do ghost-writer) can and do beat this dead horse into the ground every chance they get. But clearly, the organization did its normal Spurs thing. Close ranks and shut everybody else out.

TP has never, in my mind, been as good as he appears to think himself to be, but he has been a really hard worker except when hurt. I think he is egotistic and vain. Having said that, it is all irrelevant to what he brings the team. PATFO seem to value him differently than the cadre of posters herein who have their own agenda and cannot seem to control their need to try to advance that agenda every chance they get. The fact that some of us don't actively 'loathe' the man as you do is grounds on this forum to be called all manner of unseemly names, reflective of little more than a classically adolescent inability to recognize nuanced assessments as opposed to the "You're either with me or against me" mentality.
Because "average skill-set" guys drop 17.2 PPG on 50% shooting on the best defensive PG of all time as 19-year old rookies playing their first playoff series ever. Lol.

[ChumpDumper]

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Ghost Writer is back!

[EVAY]

Because "average skill-set" guys drop 17.2 PPG on 50% shooting on the best defensive PG of all time as 19-year old rookies playing their first playoff series ever. Lol.

Didn't intend to upset you SAS. I bolded the fact that it was my opinion in another section of that thread. I honestly don't see what is wrong with saying his hard work has gotten him to be where he is. I think that happens to be what Pop values.

I never suggested that he is not a valuable member of the team. I have often argued to the contrary, in fact, and again, in that same thread, said that I would and do prefer Parker to some more "athletic" or skilled pgs, e.g., Chris Paul. TP is our pg and he is, I believe that best pg for our team. I just don't think that being the best pg on our team implies that he came into the league with above average skill sets for a pg. My points have more to do with court vision and passing than scoring. I believe that TP is the third best guard on the Spurs' team with respect to court vision and passing (I am using Diaw as a guard in this example). TP is a far better pg than Mills, was light years better than Avery, and far ahead of George Hill.

[hater]

shut the fuck up everyone about the bullshit 1 million posts bonus for those subpar over the hill wishy washy fake spurstalk celebrity posters

fucking hell

:lmao it still hurts

[SASdynasty!]

Didn't intend to upset you SAS. I bolded the fact that it was my opinion in another section of that thread. I honestly don't see what is wrong with saying his hard work has gotten him to be where he is. I think that happens to be what Pop values.

I never suggested that he is not a valuable member of the team. I have often argued to the contrary, in fact, and again, in that same thread, said that I would and do prefer Parker to some more "athletic" or skilled pgs, e.g., Chris Paul. TP is our pg and he is, I believe that best pg for our team. I just don't think that being the best pg on our team implies that he came into the league with above average skill sets for a pg. My points have more to do with court vision and passing than scoring. I believe that TP is the third best guard on the Spurs' team with respect to court vision and passing (I am using Diaw as a guard in this example). TP is a far better pg than Mills, was light years better than Avery, and far ahead of George Hill.
That's fair. I just distinctly remember when TP came into the league thinking he was one of the most talented guards I had ever seen. Here are the things I thought set Parker out as unique:

1. Speed - One of the quickest players to ever play the game. A different type of speed than guys like Iverson (less horizontal, more vertical).
2. Fast breaks - TP has a unique ability to throw his body into players and create space, which is especially highlighted on fast breaks. For a stretch of several seasons, I think he was the best fast-break finisher in the game...or at the very least the best PG at it.
3. Finishing in the paint - We all know the stats, how he led ALL-PLAYERS in points in the paint, which was pretty unheard of for a point guard at the time. He was one of the craftiest players at the basket I've ever seen.
4. Floater - He has the best floater the NBA has ever seen. I'm not going to put it up there with Kareem's sky-hook in terms of unique shots that are almost unguardable, but his floater gets about a close as any other shot, except maybe the Dirk/Kobe/Jordan fadeaway. I put Tim's bank shot up there as well...for a stretch of his career it was basically unstoppable. Everyone who guarded him knew it was coming. So did the fans. He would still make it.

As far as court vision, Parker was never elite at general passing. He's always been very good at the pick-n-roll, and if you add his ability to score, it makes it even harder to stop. In my opinion, us seeing an injured Parker the last 3 playoffs has clouded our vision a little bit (even though he still led us in scoring in 6 of our last 7 playoff series wins over that stretch). But he hasn't been the same as he was in 2012 and 2013 until his injury.

[TheDoctor]

Most probably Enrique was mad at Brent because he outscored him and dribbled dribbled more for couple of games. And Tony thought "If you're gonna fuck with me like that I'm gonna fuck with you like that". And the rest is history, 'Rique spin-moved and dunked his balls on Brent's wife rim.

[Macca76]

Didn't intend to upset you SAS. I bolded the fact that it was my opinion in another section of that thread. I honestly don't see what is wrong with saying his hard work has gotten him to be where he is. I think that happens to be what Pop values.

I never suggested that he is not a valuable member of the team. I have often argued to the contrary, in fact, and again, in that same thread, said that I would and do prefer Parker to some more "athletic" or skilled pgs, e.g., Chris Paul. TP is our pg and he is, I believe that best pg for our team. I just don't think that being the best pg on our team implies that he came into the league with above average skill sets for a pg. My points have more to do with court vision and passing than scoring. I believe that TP is the third best guard on the Spurs' team with respect to court vision and passing (I am using Diaw as a guard in this example). TP is a far better pg than Mills, was light years better than Avery, and far ahead of George Hill.

Which leads us to how would good Bobo could have been had he the same will and work ethic TP had...

[EVAY]

Which leads us to how would good Bobo could have been had he the same will and work ethic TP had...

good god, yes!! Can you imagine? I always thought he had a real shot at the MVP of the 2014 Finals. I was fine with Kawhi getting it, but Boris was a monster the entire series!!

[wildbill2u]

If TP played in L.A. or New York and that happened, it would've wrecked his career beyond repair, tbh.

Are you kidding? Kobe probably raped that girl in Colorado under the 'no means no' standard, and the team, the league and the fans pretty much ignored it.

[SequSpur]

Gw comes back as a 15 year old girl worried about some affair and some gossip. Go figure. Who gives a shit about what happened especially if you're a dude. Go TP!