Parker, Mills, McCallum

[SpursforSix]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?

[dabom]

Parker is not top 10. :lmao

[Fireball]

Parker shitstorm coming ...

[RD2191]

Top 10 in what? Fattest PGs?

[SupremeGuy]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?:lmao

[SpursforSix]

Parker is not top 10. :lmao

I'm assuming he's healthy. Yes, he's in the top 10.

[dabom]

Any rotation with westbrook or chris paul or curry is the best rotation in the league. End thread.

[Poolboy5623]

if your going off last season...parker is not top 10....

[Robz4000]

Best PG rotation is prolly Cleveland (in terms of regular season numbers).

[ElNono]

I'm hoping Tony put some solid work over the summer and looks a bit better. With Danny and Kawhi back, you can always hide him on defense, tbh...

Not really sure how McCallum will work, but I like he's young, tbh... the Spurs should be able to mold him to what they want once he gets over himself.

[Kuvai]

Parker is bottom 5 in the league last year at PG position that too at full health.

[spurraider21]

parker isn't top 10 or even close to it... unless he radically turns his game around. he's going to need a duncan-esque renaissance, and i'm not counting on it

[HarlemHeat37]

Realistically, Mills is one of the best backups in the NBA, but he's a SG in a PG body, makes it difficult to actually rank his contribution compared to other PGs..

If I had to rank the Spurs' PG position in comparison to the league, I would put them at 18th or so..

[TDomination]

If Parker comes back healthy, in shape, with a jumpshot from 2013, yeah hes top 10.

But we'll see what we get from him.

But as far as our rotation goes in comparison to the rest of this league, its hard to say since we haven't seen how McCallum will be in this system. Patty is freakin cold blooded in big games but he can be streaky though.

I am looking forward to seeing a revamped Parker. I would hope that most are cheering for him to become better instead of rooting against him just so that they can continue calling him out.

[dabom]

FYI for the new porker fans. Don't make shit threads. :lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

McCallum will be the starter 2016/2017

[Plum Island]

Top 10 in pounds per square inch tbh.

[random21]

McCallum will start a few games this season, when Tony burns out from eating too many croissants...

[hater]

Midgets. We still need someone to replace Beli. I guess Anderson will do

[SpursforSix]

parker isn't top 10 or even close to it... unless he radically turns his game around. he's going to need a duncan-esque renaissance, and i'm not counting on it

Maybe put it a different way to take Parker vs. Curry et al. out of the equation.

Suppose every starting point guard in the league is hurt. Where do the Spurs stand?

[Johnny RIngo]

I'm assuming he's healthy. Yes, he's in the top 10.

He was the worst player in the ENTIRE playoffs(for all players over 20 mpg). Ranked 67th in RPM among all point guards in the regular season. Your expectations are a little high for an injury prone player that's gotten by on his physical tools for most of his career.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker/Aldridge P&R taking the league over

[SpursforSix]

Realistically, Mills is one of the best backups in the NBA, but he's a SG in a PG body, makes it difficult to actually rank his contribution compared to other PGs..

If I had to rank the Spurs' PG position in comparison to the league, I would put them at 18th or so..

18???? What 17 teams are ahead of them?

[dabom]

18???? What 17 teams are ahead of them?

Take your porker tinted glasses off.

[SpursforSix]

FYI for the new porker fans. Don't make shit threads. :lmao

I'm a Spurs fan. PG looks like our weakest starting position. I was just wondering where the PG group was compared to the other teams. Is that not a legitimate question/concern?

[SuperCam]

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[BatManu20]

What sucks is if Tony does have another season like last year, we still won't be able to deal him b/c nobody in their right mind will take on that contract. We just really need him to bounce back, tbh.

[Nathan89]

Almost any team with a better starter has a better pg situation than us. Parker isn't top ten so there are quite a bit of teams ahead of us.

[Xevious]

Our PG rotation sucks, honestly. But we don't need dominant PGs with our current lineup. If Parker loses the extra weight and regains his jump shot, we'll be okay. And with Ginobili and/or Diaw in the second unit, Patty doesn't need to be the playmaker.

[K...]

I'd say slightly above average. Parker has mega corporate knowledge that'd make Westbrook head explode.

[dabom]

I'd say slightly above average. Parker has mega corporate knowledge that'd make Westbrook head explode.

People act like westbrook has zero IQ. Parker last playoffs looked like a mentally retarded child.

[K...]

Worst PG rotation of any contender by far, tbh.

Kyrie/Williams, Curry/Livingston, Westbrook/whatever, Paul/whatever.... all much better.

So there are only like six contenders. Spurs can still be top ten.


Here are some specifics: better than:

Lullard and trash? Clarkson and Russell? Rondo and belli? Wall and beal? Mavs lol?

[DJR210]

I hope Parker takes a huge Whataburger infused shit on all of us this year and gets back to himself..

[K...]

People act like westbrook has zero IQ. Parker last playoffs looked like a mentally retarded child.

No he looked like a middle age multi racial man. You're projecting.

Westbrook isn't dumb. But he's never learn the spurs offense.

[dabom]

No he looked like a middle age multi racial man. You're projecting.

Westbrook isn't dumb. But he's never learn the spurs offense.

Westbrook instead of porker gets us a 5peat easy. MVP candidate at a young age with a stacked team AND bench with a top 3 coach of all time. :wow

[littlecoyotecoin]

Top 10 in pounds per square inch tbh.

So you think Parker withstands pressure well? If you're gonna make lame "Parker is Fat" jokes, try to get psi vs. density (pounds per cubic inch) right, or it just doesn't work well comedically. Fat isn't all that dense, anyway. Back to Fat Joke drawing board.

[Dre_7]

I can't wait to see Parker shit all over the ST haters when he has a bounce back year this season.

[Plum Island]

So you think Parker withstands pressure well? If you're gonna make lame "Parker is Fat" jokes, try to get psi vs. density (pounds per cubic inch) right, or it just doesn't work well comedically. Fat isn't all that dense, anyway. Back to Fat Joke drawing board.
http://fishtown.us/sites/fishtown.us/files/BuzzKillington.jpg

[south side spur]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Lowry
Bledsoe
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Conley
Walker
Jackson
Gragic
Knight
Parker 17

[SpursforSix]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Lowry
Bledsoe
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Conley
Walker
Jackson
Gragic
Knight
Parker 17

that's just starters right? I was talking about PG depth. Later I proposed to take all starting PG out of the discussion. Where do the Spurs 2 and 3 PG stack?

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://fishtown.us/sites/fishtown.us/files/BuzzKillington.jpg

Thank you! First, I would like to thank all of the little people...


I'll get to thanking Parker later.

[Mnky]

Mills plays wells as the second pg when Diaw or manu running the team. His shooting blends well. I like this kid as a young prospect. Has good vision and attacks, which we need from the pg, and with Aldridge and west now in the PnR, he will blend well I'm speculating.

Will be a good rotation for this type of team, that's for sure. One of the better in the league.

[Plum Island]

Thank you! First, I would like to thank all of the little people...


I'll get to thanking Parker later.

Lol. In all seriousness I firmly believe we're going to see a different Parker this upcoming season, but he was simply too dense (better?) for his own good last season.
At least... I hope so.

[south side spur]

that's just starters right? I was talking about PG depth. Later I proposed to take all starting PG out of the discussion. Where do the Spurs 2 and 3 PG stack?
I'd rather have Mills and McCallum than any other point guards not listed so move the Spurs up the list as high as you want.

[dabom]

Lol. In all seriousness I firmly believe we're going to see a different Parker this upcoming season, but he was simply too dense (better?) for his own good last season.
At least... I hope so.

LMA will alleviate some offensive duties for porker. Porkers legs will be more rested next year. Maybe even pop benches him when we need too and we start winning more games.

[HarlemHeat37]

18???? What 17 teams are ahead of them?

Definitely better: Cleveland, Golden State, Clippers, Grizzlies, OKC, Toronto, Washington
Probably better: Atlanta, Portland
Subjective, but better IMO: Charlotte, Miami, New Orleans
Toss-up: Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Phoenix, Sacramento

Definitely worse: Brooklyn, Dallas, Houston, Indiana, Lakers, Milwaukee, Minnesota, New York, Orlando, Philly, Utah

I could see the Spurs as good as 13th if youre being really optimistic and as low as 19th if we're keeping it 100 IMO..

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?

Way to stir the pot. Notice how all the player fans that are on here are also on your 'cursing on Spurstalk' thread?

[dabom]

Way to stir the pot. Notice how all the player fans that are on here are also on your 'cursing on Spurstalk' thread?

You are a player fan. Don't get it twisted. Walk along now.

[Plum Island]

LMA will alleviate some offensive duties for porker. Porkers legs will be more rested next year. Maybe even pop benches him when we need too and we start winning more games.
I agree. Hopefully he feels shamed by last season. Maybe come back with a retooled physique and a new, more team-first attitude.
That would be nice.

[DarrinS]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?


:downspin:

[BillMc]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?

I agree that Mills is great offense but can't say he's an incredible play maker. I don't really know much about McCallum. Much of it hinges on whether last year was just a down year on Parker's part or if he's in serious decline.

But to answer your question, Curry and Livingston are pretty good.

And the Cavs who have Kyrie, and then can let LeBron play point when he's out, plus Delly. They are pretty fearsome. But, of course, if you're going to expand the play makers beyond just pgs for this discussion we can add Manu and to some extent Boris on our own team.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Lol. In all seriousness I firmly believe we're going to see a different Parker this upcoming season, but he was simply too dense (better?) for his own good last season.
At least... I hope so.

Yes. I am a fan of his game, not of his slutting around w/ player's wives, but his game for sure. Hopefully he will get some rest, stay injury free, and be a little embarassed by his game last season. Hopefully he's got a little to prove to himself and some pride.

[K...]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Lowry
Bledsoe
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Conley
Walker
Jackson
Gragic
Knight
Parker 17

Half those names are fools gold. Players with stats on a bad team. We don't pg scoring this year. We need floor captains. Mr dribble dribble is good at that. Congrats to you if you want to build a team around a ball dominant pg. We're talking about a stacked team

[Blizzardwizard]

Player obsessed fans hating on MVParker per par.

[Leetonidas]

I am a big Porky fan but tbh he is not top 10 right now, off the top of my head here are 10 PGs I'd take ahead of him as of now based on last season:

1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Paul
4. Dragic
5. Wall
6. Irving
7. Bledsoe
8. Jackson
9. Lawson
10. Knight


Some may disagree but I'd take any one of those guys over 2015 TP.

[K...]

I am a big Porky fan but tbh he is not top 10 right now, off the top of my head here are 10 PGs I'd take ahead of him as of now based on last season:

1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Paul
4. Dragic
5. Wall
6. Irving
7. Bledsoe
8. Jackson
9. Lawson
10. Knight


Some may disagree but I'd take any one of those guys over 2015 TP.

Another fools gold Iist. God dang, are you gonna let kawhi and Aldridge get touches? Can all those guys run the spurs offense? Hell yes I'd take curry or Westbrook on a generic team, but for this team, with this offense I only take 3,4,5 from your list

[dabom]

K just stop. Embarrassing yourself already. :lmao

[Leetonidas]

You realize Jackson/Lawson/Knight are all way better at generating assists than Parker right? It's not like these players are all ball hogging chuckers. And like I said, I'm a Parker fan, but he is not a top 10 PG. I'm not addressing "what PGs you'd rather have besides TP running the show?" I'm addressing whether or not TP is a top 10 PG and he is not anymore unfortunately. There's nothing wrong with admitting that tbh. I'm not one of the ones that starts Enrique bashing threads or anything, I've always defended Parker tbh. Take your homer glasses off dude. Parker running the team is fine as long as he's not trying to put up 20 shots a game like he was vs. LAC...

[Plum Island]

Another fools gold Iist. God dang, are you gonna let kawhi and Aldridge get touches? Can all those guys run the spurs offense? Hell yes I'd take curry or Westbrook on a generic team, but for this team, with this offense I only take 3,4,5 from your list
Good points, but you always have to take Curry. He can excel almost anywhere and he's a talent coaches adjust their own "systems" for.
Like Pop will do for LMA. The System will be tweaked for his talent.

[Plum Island]

You realize Jackson/Lawson/Knight are all way better at generating assists than Parker right? It's not like these players are all ball hogging chuckers. And like I said, I'm a Parker fan, but he is not a top 10 PG. I'm not addressing "what PGs you'd rather have besides TP running the show?" I'm addressing whether or not TP is a top 10 PG and he is not anymore unfortunately. There's nothing wrong with admitting that tbh. I'm not one of the ones that starts Enrique bashing threads or anything, I've always defended Parker tbh. Take your homer glasses off dude. Parker running the team is fine as long as he's not trying to put up 20 shots a game like he was vs. LAC...
Parker needs to have a renaissance of sorts and evolve his game for the betterment of the team. No doubt.

[DPG21920]

If TP can get back to a top 10 PG, Spurs will have a top 10 guard rotation and that is more than enough with the rest of the talent.

[Leetonidas]

Parker needs to have a renaissance of sorts and evolve his game for the betterment of the team. No doubt.

Agree, there's nothing I'd like more than for him to have a resurgent year and get back to form. But he has been declining the last two seasons. It's not really debatable and advanced stats show just how abysmal he was on the court for us. I really hope he can focus more on being a leader and floor general because he doesn't need to put up 18-20 shots a game for us anymore

[Plum Island]

If TP can get back to a top 10 PG, Spurs will have a top 10 guard rotation and that is more than enough with the rest of the talent.
It's a big if, but not out of the question by any means. He needs to focus on his "old" body like Tim did a few years ago and change his game a bit by learning to choose his battles and be more of a "cog"- as said by Tim about himself nowadays.
IF he can do that, and I believe he can and maybe even wants to- then you are absolutely correct.

As usual.

[cjw]

Half those names are fools gold. Players with stats on a bad team. We don't pg scoring this year. We need floor captains. Mr dribble dribble is good at that. Congrats to you if you want to build a team around a ball dominant pg. We're talking about a stacked team

Exactly. Jackson, Walker, Evans (or Holiday) are below Parker. A few of the others are simply DH's.

[Spur84]

I can't wait to see Parker shit all over the ST haters when he has a bounce back year this season.

For the amount that he is getting paid...he shouldn't need to have a bounce back season. Dude should be playing consistent and at a high level every season for all that $$$

[HarlemHeat37]

Hate aside, it's alarming how many Spurs fans still don't realize how much Parker has declined since 2013, tbh:lol.. Not only was he not even close to being a top 10 PG last year, he was very likely one PG the 5 worst starters at the position..fortunately, the Spurs didn't need him to be great in 2014, and they only need him to be average, this year..

PersonAlly, I hope he doesn't try to become an All-Star level PG again, it would probably kill the team..the PG position sees an ugly decline, unless you have a niche like shooting or a heavy size advantage like Jason Kidd..

Parker needs to accept being a role player that runs the offense and shots open jump shots, this team has too many weapons..they would be better off with a Calderon-type, but Parker is the only PG that can run the offense, we are stuck with him, hopefully he accepts reality and his role..

[south side spur]

I can't wait to see Parker shit all over the ST haters when he has a bounce back year this season.
I want to make it clear, I'm not a Parker hater. That list IS pure analytics and it's open for debate. You can't truthfully dismiss anyone on that list that's just being objective. Some may say this or that point guard should be higher or lower but they're all in the discussion. Someone who says they'd rather have Parker I'm not going to say you're wrong. This is just as of right now. Obviously, any list is fluid. I do know this, Joseph had an opportunity to take the back up spot but his lack of assertiveness on offense opened it back up for Mills to do what he does. That won't be the case with McCallum. This kid believes in himself and if Mills has a cold streak again...it's the kids spot. As someone already mentioned, if Parker gets injured or rests McCallum will start and he won't disappoint.

[spursgu]

No way we have one of the worst PGs in the league. And I don't even know who McCollum is.

[RD2191]

No way we have one of the worst PGs in the league. And I don't even know who McCollum is.
:lmao

[RD2191]

Hate aside, it's alarming how many Spurs fans still don't realize how much Parker has declined since 2013, tbh:lol.. Not only was he not even close to being a top 10 PG last year, he was very likely one PG the 5 worst starters at the position..fortunately, the Spurs didn't need him to be great in 2014, and they only need him to be average, this year..

PersonAlly, I hope he doesn't try to become an All-Star level PG again, it would probably kill the team..the PG position sees an ugly decline, unless you have a niche like shooting or a heavy size advantage like Jason Kidd..

Parker needs to accept being a role player that runs the offense and shots open jump shots, this team has too many weapons..they would be better off with a Calderon-type, but Parker is the only PG that can run the offense, we are stuck with him, hopefully he accepts reality and his role..
Dropping nukes per usual

[apalisoc_9]

Parker is bottom 5 in the league last year at PG position that too at full health.

[Galileo]

Top 10 in what? Fattest PGs?

Parker follows Duncan’s lead with rigorous offseason regimen
Posted on June 17, 2015 | BY DAN MCCARNEY
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2015/06/17/parker-follows-duncans-lead-with-rigorous-offseason-regimen/#32417101=0

[Plum Island]

Hate aside, it's alarming how many Spurs fans still don't realize how much Parker has declined since 2013, tbh:lol.. Not only was he not even close to being a top 10 PG last year, he was very likely one PG the 5 worst starters at the position..fortunately, the Spurs didn't need him to be great in 2014, and they only need him to be average, this year..

PersonAlly, I hope he doesn't try to become an All-Star level PG again, it would probably kill the team..the PG position sees an ugly decline, unless you have a niche like shooting or a heavy size advantage like Jason Kidd..

Parker needs to accept being a role player that runs the offense and shots open jump shots, this team has too many weapons..they would be better off with a Calderon-type, but Parker is the only PG that can run the offense, we are stuck with him, hopefully he accepts reality and his role..
Absolutely. His current ceiling is being a very good role player who can have some stellar nights, but is now a "cog" in the machine, not the engine.

[Plum Island]

Parker follows Duncan’s lead with rigorous offseason regimen
Posted on June 17, 2015 | BY DAN MCCARNEY
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2015/06/17/parker-follows-duncans-lead-with-rigorous-offseason-regimen/#32417101=0
I should certainly hope so.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Hate aside, it's alarming how many Spurs fans still don't realize how much Parker has declined since 2013, tbh:lol.. Not only was he not even close to being a top 10 PG last year, he was very likely one PG the 5 worst starters at the position..fortunately, the Spurs didn't need him to be great in 2014, and they only need him to be average, this year..

PersonAlly, I hope he doesn't try to become an All-Star level PG again, it would probably kill the team..the PG position sees an ugly decline, unless you have a niche like shooting or a heavy size advantage like Jason Kidd..

Parker needs to accept being a role player that runs the offense and shots open jump shots, this team has too many weapons..they would be better off with a Calderon-type, but Parker is the only PG that can run the offense, we are stuck with him, hopefully he accepts reality and his role..

All kidding aside, its alarming that many Spurs fan still don't realize how important Parker is to this team. It's unfortunate that this premiere PG, whose pick and roll style has been stifled with bigs that are either not at the top of their game anymore or constantly on the injured list. Fortunately, the Spurs signed a big that can compliment his offensive style and return back to his stellar form this year.

Personally, I can't wait to see him run the PnR with Aldridge and West and return to All-Star level PG again, it should ignite this team. The PG position sees an ugly decline if you don't have the type of PG that can get to the rim or shoot the open jumper and not a heavy PG like Jason Kidd, Derek Fisher or Chauncey Billups that could only shoot three pointers at the tail end of their career.

Parker needs to accept that he is the head of the snake that runs this offense and if he can get to the rim or take the open J then this team will have too any weapons. Parker is the best PG on this team and one of the best in the NBA, with the right personnel on this team he can return to his old role.

[RD2191]

All kidding aside, its alarming that many Spurs fan still don't realize how important Parker is to this team. It's unfortunate that this premiere PG, whose pick and roll style has been stifled with bigs that are either not at the top of their game anymore or constantly on the injured list. Fortunately, the Spurs signed a big that can compliment his offensive style and return back to his stellar form this year.

Personally, I can't wait to see him run the PnR with Aldridge and West and return to All-Star level PG again, it should ignite this team. The PG position sees an ugly decline if you don't have the type of PG that can get to the rim or shoot the open jumper and not a heavy PG like Jason Kidd, Derek Fisher or Chauncey Billups that could only shoot three pointers at the tail end of their career.

Parker needs to accept that he is the head of the snake that runs this offense and if he can get to the rim or take the open J then this team will have too any weapons. Parker is the best PG on this team and one of the best in the NBA, with the right personnel on this team he can return to his old role.
BAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[timvp]

Parker obviously wasn't a top ten point guard last year. This coming season, if he gets in shape and stays healthy, I'm confident he can bounce back and regain that status while being exactly what the Spurs need at that position.

[HarlemHeat37]

All kidding aside, its alarming that many Spurs fan still don't realize how important Parker is to this team. It's unfortunate that this premiere PG, whose pick and roll style has been stifled with bigs that are either not at the top of their game anymore or constantly on the injured list. Fortunately, the Spurs signed a big that can compliment his offensive style and return back to his stellar form this year.

Personally, I can't wait to see him run the PnR with Aldridge and West and return to All-Star level PG again, it should ignite this team. The PG position sees an ugly decline if you don't have the type of PG that can get to the rim or shoot the open jumper and not a heavy PG like Jason Kidd, Derek Fisher or Chauncey Billups that could only shoot three pointers at the tail end of their career.

Parker needs to accept that he is the head of the snake that runs this offense and if he can get to the rim or take the open J then this team will have too any weapons. Parker is the best PG on this team and one of the best in the NBA, with the right personnel on this team he can return to his old role.

:lmao

Seriously, if everybody is going to ignore obvious aging and decline, why don't the Spurs just sign David Robinson to play C?

Parker can still be a solid role player, there's nothing wrong with that..realistically, if a PG with his mileage, age and style of play tries to play like an All-Star, its going to hurt the team..part of aging is accepting your role to help your team, rather than stubbornly attempting to recapture your old magic..we don't want another Kobe or Iverson here..

[honestfool84]

I can't wait to see Parker shit all over the ST haters when he has a bounce back year this season.

[spursgu]

dang alot of you are really that confident that Parker will have an all star season next year? hopefully he's not fat anymore.

[tmtcsc]

If Parker gets healthy and returns to form - Spurs will be fine at this position. I never considered Patty a PG. He's more of a shooting guard.

[K...]

The new offensive big men really make Tony almost guaranteed to get to top ten status. He doesn't need speed since the spacing will be great. He just has to beat his man, and if he can't, pass. He'll get it.

[steeledl]

Almost any team with a better starter has a better pg situation than us. Parker isn't top ten so there are quite a bit of teams ahead of us.

Faggot has the worst basketball takes.

[Dre_7]

For the amount that he is getting paid...he shouldn't need to have a bounce back season. Dude should be playing consistent and at a high level every season for all that $$$

Parker has been a bargain the entire time he has been a Spur. Helped bring 4 titles to San Antonuo while making less than he was worth his entire career. He still isn't making what he is worth honestly. Look at how guys are getting paid now a days, guys that he is better than are getting more than him.

[SuperCam]

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[james evans]

Where does this stack up against the league?

Parker is still top 10. Mills might be the best backup in the league. At least as far as being able to provide instant offense. McCallum as the third option seems strong as well.

Is this the top PG rotation in the league? If not, who is better?
:lol

[BD24]

Jesus christ. Top 10? I'm not one of the mega douche over the top parker haters, but to say he is top 10 is just as ridicoulus. He is at best an average starter at this point. Thats being awfully generous though. Hes more at the back end of starters.

[james evans]

Parker has been a bargain the entire time he has been a Spur. Helped bring 4 titles to San Antonuo while making less than he was worth his entire career. He still isn't making what he is worth honestly. Look at how guys are getting paid now a days, guys that he is better than are getting more than him.
exactly which pgs are parker better than that he makes less than? He's ranked at #36 in the league last season for pay. I'll give you bogut and david lee, but exactly which pgs is he better than that was making more than him?

[james evans]

If Parker gets healthy and returns to form
how many years have we been saying this in the off season? WHY CAN'T HE GET HEALTHY??? WHY?????

[Kawhitstorm]

Just need him to have a bounce back season from mediocrity ala 2013-14 Manu. As long as he can beat defenders 1-on-1 & keep them honest it should be enough. Don't need him to drive & kick, draw double teams or suck in the defense...Kawhi/LMA/Tim can get their own shots & Danny will eat off LMA/Kawhi. Just bring the ball up & call sets, let the motion offense do the work. During crunch time, give the ball to LMA/Kawhi & get out of their way.

[Dro210]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Lowry
Bledsoe
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Conley
Walker
Jackson
Gragic
Knight
Parker 17

Parker will be bounce back a bit this year. If you're being realistic and not basing your opinion on your fan duel lineup, Parker will slot in right above Lowry. Conley should be higher..... Also, no D-Rose? He puts himself back in that Top10 this year too.

[TXstbobcat]

Ray McCallum has to be happy going from that shitty Kings franchise to the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker will be bounce back a bit this year. If you're being realistic and not basing your opinion on your fan duel lineup, Parker will slot in right above Lowry. Conley should be higher..... Also, no D-Rose? He puts himself back in that Top10 this year too.

Rose, Rondo and Parker are all in the same boat IMO..bigger names than actual playing ability..

At least Parker can transition into a new role for a stacked team in an intelligent organization..Bulls are still relying heavily on Rose and stupidly building around him, partly because he's from Chicago and an icon in the city, of course..

[Walter Donovan]

Enjoy your new starting PG Spurs fans!

[Dro210]

Rose, Rondo and Parker are all in the same boat IMO..bigger names than actual playing ability..

At least Parker can transition into a new role for a stacked team in an intelligent organization..Bulls are still relying heavily on Rose and stupidly building around him, partly because he's from Chicago and an icon in the city, of course..

I agree with the premise.... but Rondo just sucks. He's true cancer and his game has huge holes. I can't rightfully put Tony and Rose in a boat with that guy, lol.

Parker's no longer an All-Star level player, but a lot of those younger guys listed are overrated by inflated numbers imo. Tony's experience alone gains him a few spots on a list like that. He can still be bottom end of the top 10 next year with a little return to form.... and I may be optimistic because I like him, but I don't think Rose is done yet. He's not gonna be MVP again, and I'd agree its tough to win a championship with someone like him as a centerpiece, but I think he can still get back to being near elite if he can manage to stay on the floor all year. I know that's a big "if" at this point, but if The Mayor Fred Hoiberg comes in and keeps everybody's minutes down, and Chicago has their whole team in the playoffs for once, they're as good as anybody in the East.

[rastaspur]

Ray McCallum has to be happy going from that shitty Kings franchise to the Spurs.

It is almost akin to a governor pardoning someone on death row. You are going from one end of the spectrum to another. From cousins and Rudy gay to timmay! And kawhi.

It is like getting promoted from cooking fries at Burger King to being a VP of the company.

[pgardn]

We Win the finals with the Parker that almost got us the 2 seed during the winning streak last season.

Playoff Tony... Aldridge won't matter, we will stink.


The Parker haters can't tell the difference between the two and would probably like playoff Tony to troll with.

[TheGoldStandard]

If Parker falls off more this season what do Spurs do?

[spurraider21]

If Parker falls off more this season what do Spurs do?
whine on ST

[Aztecfan03]

So there are only like six contenders. Spurs can still be top ten.


Here are some specifics: better than:

Lullard and trash? Clarkson and Russell? Rondo and belli? Wall and beal? Mavs lol?

Belli? Beal? thought you guys were talking PG's

[ElNono]

If Parker falls off more this season what do Spurs do?

What we've been doing for the past 10 seasons, tbh... give it to Gino...

[TheGoldStandard]

whine on ST

It's a legit question, cap goes up next season but how do you walk away from that kind paycheck or tell him to scale it back?

[TheGoldStandard]

What we've been doing for the past 10 seasons, tbh... give it to Gino...

Perhaps but after the season is over? Do they chase a new PG?

[RD2191]

What we've been doing for the past 10 seasons, tbh... give it to Gino...
Nono with no regard for Parkerfan life.

[ElNono]

Perhaps but after the season is over? Do they chase a new PG?

Tony is here to stay, tbh... I suppose if the decline is too terrible they'll look for a starting PG next summer and move him to the bench...

[spurraider21]

It's a legit question, cap goes up next season but how do you walk away from that kind paycheck or tell him to scale it back?
it was a legit answer. he's untradeable, you cant restructure contracts, so the only thing that can happen is that people will continue to point out the obvious on ST

[100%duncan]

Top 12-15 maybe

[kaji157]

I am no fan of how Parker plays, nothing against him, but seems to me that he is the most uncomfortable with a move the ball game.

Other than that i have nothing against him and i think last year he took the Spurs for granted and didnt take care of his body thinking that we were going to cruise thru the regular season.

He got injured, didnt have the time to recover from a poor preparation, and as a result he was a disaster, plain and simple, the worst player on the team based on age/salary/expectations.

I find it hard to believe that he will not reconsider his position this year and give us one of his finest seasons. If he cant do it because of his age, then i expect a very good season from him as the least.

If he doesnt do that and continues with poor preparation and performance, then i have to put the blame not only on him, but also on the front office that renewed his deal for 3 more seasons.

[south side spur]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Parker7
Lowry
Bledsoe
Rose
Conley
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Hmmmm...wellllllll...I am a Spurs fan

[SilverSpur]

Parker is not top 10. :lmao

Rose
Paul
Curry - 1 Championship
Lillard
Rondo - 1 Championship
Wall
Rubio
Mattews
Bledsoe
Dragic
D Williams
Harden
Ellis
Hill
Irving
Conley

Parker - 4 championships out of 5 apperences, Finals MVP , All Star, Future Hall of Famer
Countless regular season wins, division titles, playoff and finals victories and still going!
Rank him where you want but when it's all said and done he will most likely retire with 6 or 7 rings and
sitting in the hall of fame while everyone else on this list will finish their careers chasing an opportunity to
play for just one.
#9 :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2: , and :lobt2::lobt2: coming soon

[le13]

Parker is not top 10. :lmao

Loool but you are!!!!!! :lol for sure in this forum

[le13]

I am no fan of how Parker plays, nothing against him, but seems to me that he is the most uncomfortable with a move the ball game.

Other than that i have nothing against him and i think last year he took the Spurs for granted and didnt take care of his body thinking that we were going to cruise thru the regular season.

He got injured, didnt have the time to recover from a poor preparation, and as a result he was a disaster, plain and simple, the worst player on the team based on age/salary/expectations.

I find it hard to believe that he will not reconsider his position this year and give us one of his finest seasons. If he cant do it because of his age, then i expect a very good season from him as the least.

If he doesnt do that and continues with poor preparation and performance, then i have to put the blame not only on him, but also on the front office that renewed his deal for 3 more seasons.

Quite agree with your statement, at least it is fair for last year.

But other than last year, Parker was one of the best players in spurs uniform in history. At least and like timmy and Manu we should give credit to this guy for what he did for the team.

Who are we for judging this guy? Are we teamates? Did we play in NBA one day? If Nba players, coachs, give credits to him, we should all do.

And by the way (not for you my friend but for all haters here.. ;)), most of the nominations Parker got for the all star game was by a vote from the west conference coachs, not from the public!!

[Spurtacular]

Parker did not play like a top 10 PG last year as he was out of shape (due to injury / age?). But he compounded that issue by not adapting his game to his limited capacities. He was still trying to be the Spurs leading shot taker. My hope is that he returns to form or otherwise plays within his abilities. Perhaps, Pop should consider not starting him at times and light a fire under him.

[Spurtacular]

Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Wall
Lillard
Irving
Parker7
Lowry
Bledsoe
Rose
Conley
Lawson
Evans
Teague
Hmmmm...wellllllll...I am a Spurs fan

First 6 are definitely better than Parker as far as individual abilities go. I'd have Conley and Rose ahead of him as well. Then after that, there are others who will likely have better seasons than Parker. He's probably on the outside looking in of top ten at this point. This is why Spurs fans rightfully acknowledge that Parker is a weak link right now. And I was really only speaking from the offensive side of it. If Parker is only playing as well as a middle of the pack PG, that's not very good because he is a defensive liability, more and more.

[San Antonio Slayer]

Bledsoe and Rose r better than Tony 2015. hopefullly our man will be closer to 2013 shape.