Game Thread: Boston Celtics vs. San Antonio Spurs Utah Summer League (6:00 pm CST)

[raybies]

2015 Boston Celtics Summer League Roster
#
Player
POS
Height
Weight
From


60
Buckner, Eric (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_eric_buckner/)
F-C
6-10
220
Georgia State/USA


49
Fair, C.J. (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_cj_fair/)
F
6-8
215
Syracuse/USA


68
Holmes, Jonathan (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_jonathan_holmes/)
F
6-8
240
Texas/USA


28
Hunter, R.J. (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_rj_hunter/)
G
6-6
190
Georgia State/USA


63
Iverson, Colton (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_colton_iverson/)
C
7-0
255
Colorado State/USA


55
Mickey, Jordan (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_jordan_mickey/)
F
6-8
235
Louisiana State/USA


48
Miller, Malcolm (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_malcolm_miller/)
F
6-7
210
Holy Cross/USA


47
O'Neale, Royce (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_royce_oneale/)
F
6-6
215
Baylor/USA


26
Pressey, Phil (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_phil_pressey/)
G
5-11
175
Missouri/USA


12
Rozier, Terry (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_terry_rozier/)
G
6-1
190
Louisville/USA


70
Sampson III, Ralph (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_ralph_sampson_iii/)
C
6-11
244
Minnesota/USA


36
Smart, Marcus (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_marcus_smart/)
G
6-4
220
Oklahoma State/USA


27
Thornton, Marcus (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_marcus_thornton/)
G
6-4
190
William & Mary/USA


46
Walden, Corey (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_corey_walden/)
G
6-2
189
Eastern Kentucky/USA


13
Young, James (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2015/players/sl_james_young/)
G-F
6-6
215
Kentucky/USA

[RD2191]

Did I just enter the matrix?

[raybies]

lol it's not letting me put the stats. ill just keep it simple

[TheGoldStandard]

Let's get this thing bumpin. Can't wait to see RJ Hunter

[xellos88330]

:D

[spurs10]

:ihit The Slugging Spurs gonna whoop the Fightin' Irish!

[TXstbobcat]

:flag:

[raybies]

here we go!

[raybies]

niceshot cady

[raybies]

good d

[Shipupi]

Fuck Marcus Smart

[TXstbobcat]

I'm on NBA TV and they don't have the game on yet. :depressed

[Shipupi]

I'm on NBA TV and they don't have the game on yet. :depressed
I'm wathing it on NBA TV, game had already begun a cuple minutes before

[benefactor]

Wtf...missed like the first three and a half minutes.

[random21]

Gosh, Livio has horrible footwork....

[TXstbobcat]

Now they put the game on. Only missed a few minutes

[raybies]

i dont like Cady on the roll

[ace3g]

Bertans to LJC

[BatManu20]

Great start. Nice play there with Bertans to LJC for the flush.

[DPG21920]

:cry I missed the first run. Have to scrap all my blogs now.

[benefactor]

Bertans is a nice player. He'll likely get a job somewhere.

[TXstbobcat]

Wtf...missed like the first three and a half minutes.

The game in Orlando that they had on lasted longer than 2 hours

[Axegrinder]

Dead air

[raybies]

Bertans is a nice player. He'll likely get a job somewhere.

I agree. Can shoot, can pass, and he's got a kind of fearlessness attacking the rim. He got blocked like 3 times doing so last game but still.

[RD2191]

my feed is frozen tf

[raybies]

Hopefully Livio and Cady stay out of foul trouble.

[Raven]

good start

[TXstbobcat]

Hopefully Livio and Cady stay out of foul trouble.

shouldn't be a problem. They each get 10 fouls in summer league

[raybies]

shouldn't be a problem. They each get 10 fouls in summer league

yeah i know, just would like to see some improvement.

[TXstbobcat]

Blackshear3333333333

[RD2191]

not bad

[Axegrinder]

kickin dat green azz

[KDKSpurs24]

I want to see Graham get more touches.

[Axegrinder]

..and ware sux

[raybies]

I would like to see Livio roll instead. I'm not liking the pop. Very ineffective.

[raybies]

nice pass, megamind

[TheGoldStandard]

Now that McCallum signed not likely anyone on this roster will get a roster spot unless they want to roll with cady. Jarell Eddie should be interesting with the Vegas league.

[random21]

Kyle drawing the kobeish type of foul....

[raybies]

he needs to post hunter up

[spursparker9]

Kyle drawing the kobeish type of foul....


:lol

[Shipupi]

that's a phantom call if i ever saw one

[ohmwrecker]

I like Graham. He is raw, but he looks like he would be a good system player.

[TXstbobcat]

Slomo!!!!!

[raybies]

nice take kyle

[raybies]

Rozier is a good matchup for Bertans

[ohmwrecker]

I hope Anderson is this good against better competition.

[raybies]

alrightcady

[Axegrinder]

blackshear lookin better

[random21]

Blackshear hitting some tough shots tonight...

[manufan10]

Blackshear has been impressive today.

[raybies]

Nate Duncan ‏@NateDuncanNBA (https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/619287317778272256)
Anderson being defended successfully if you just stay solid. Reaching/jumping to block his shot are when he kills you.

[BD24]

My nigga wayne doing work. Just needed to get some minutes :flag:

[raybies]

livio shot on the way down that time eesh

[coopdogg3]

It's too bad for Anderson that not all games are back-to-back.

[BatManu20]

Kinda wish Jonathan Holmes was playing on our SL team.

[raybies]

Well at least Kyle rebounds consistently if anything

[raybies]

Livio with 5 fouls already

[TheGoldStandard]

Charles is getting worse

[TXstbobcat]

Livio with 5 fouls already

You were right. He might foul out. :lmao

[coopdogg3]

Anderson has a knack for getting steals, Livio is getting worse.

[TXstbobcat]

Celtics have some great young players to build around.

[BackHome]

So far the best thing Anderson does is rebound well....Man Livio has bad hands i don't know if he will be even close to ready next year.

[raybies]

Celtics have some great young players to build around.

Yeah with no star. If one becomes available, they are a likely destination.

[Rito3d30]

So far the best thing Anderson does is rebound well....Man Livio has bad hands i don't know if he will be even close to ready next year.


He's not coming next year
It's been announced he'll play at France in 15/16

[ace3g]

Boston Celtics @celtics
(https://twitter.com/celtics)James Young (left hip bruise) will not return to tonight's game.

[yavozerb]

Livio is a long term project, still 2-3 yrs away from being a regular rotational player in my opnion.

[ceperez]

Livio is a long term project, still 2-3 yrs away from being a regular rotational player in my opnion.

Sigh... lots of athleticism but he doesn't get development over at ASVEL. He's been there 2 years already and there's just no progress.

[TXstbobcat]

Sigh... lots of athleticism but he doesn't get development over at ASVEL. He's been there 2 years already and there's just no progress.

I think the ACL tear hindered his development but damn his shot looks terrible.

[yavozerb]

Sigh... lots of athleticism but he doesn't get development over at ASVEL. He's been there 2 years already and there's just no progress.

The kid missed almost an entire season cause of a major knee injury..No reason to rush this kid with the spurs competing for championships in the near future

[Darkwaters]

Now that McCallum signed not likely anyone on this roster will get a roster spot unless they want to roll with cady. Jarell Eddie should be interesting with the Vegas league.

Dairis Bertans or Cady Lalanne seem the only possibles still.

Although it's possible a guy like Blackshear or Graham gets hot and garners a camp invite.

[TXstbobcat]

Bertrans3333333333333

[yavozerb]

Lalanne is a definite choice for camp and Bertans is 50/50 in my opinion..

[Darkwaters]

Nice 3 from Dairis

[Darkwaters]

Lalanne is a definite choice for camp and Bertans is 50/50 in my opinion..

Actually I think Bertans is more likely to head to camp than Lalanne. In order to attend camp they will have to sign the player to a contract. If the player doesn't make it out of camp then they'll have to be waived...along with their rights. Unless they feel confident that Lalanne can and will win a roster spot I doubt they put themselves in a position where they might have to waive him. I think it's more likely they just let him sign in Europe and skip camp if they're unsure on the outcome. Thats been their modus operandi at least over the years...

Bertans on the other hand...they don't own his rights at all. Hes literally just a street free agent. So waiving him out of camp doesn't have any adverse effect.

[raybies]

Livio is a long term project, still 2-3 yrs away from being a regular rotational player in my opnion.

"two years away from being 2 years away."

[Darkwaters]

Nice dribble penetration and assist from Bertans. And then another nice pass the next play.

Hes definitely got some decent vision out of the 2 guard. He could probably play some spot minutes next to Patty if Manu was out or resting on a given night.

[yavozerb]

Actually I think Bertans is more likely to head to camp than Lalanne. In order to attend camp they will have to sign the player to a contract. If the player doesn't make it out of camp then they'll have to be waived...along with their rights. Unless they feel confident that Lalanne can and will win a roster spot I doubt they put themselves in a position where they might have to waive him. I think it's more likely they just let him sign in Europe and skip camp if they're unsure on the outcome. Thats been their modus operandi at least over the years...

Bertans on the other hand...they don't own his rights at all. Hes literally just a street free agent. So waiving him out of camp doesn't have any adverse effect.

gotcha, makes sense...thx

[milkyway21]

And 1..

[raybies]

Casper saying hey to contract... in Europe

[Darkwaters]

And 1..

Yea, good move by Ware.

[TXstbobcat]

Slomo!!!!!!!!

[milkyway21]

Nice steal KA:tu

[Darkwaters]

Good steal by Anderson.

He hasn't looked good at all tonight though. More sloppy ball handling, lazy passes and just sloppy turnovers. Glad hes rebounding well at least.

[Darkwaters]

Wow...that was a messy sequence. I think basically every player on the court hit the deck.

[raybies]

I think Kyle's problem is that he gets too relaxed. I mean he plays that way, but I would like to see him play with some more urgency. More effort or something.

[raybies]

Also, i think posting up on smaller players might be one of his calling cards if he wants to make it in this league.

[Darkwaters]

Hes 2-10 on FG. 6 TO to 3 AST.

-17

Not good.

[Darkwaters]

But hey, Cady Lalanne only has 3 fouls!

[raybies]

Funny he could make the next few shots in a row and turn it all around, and then we would say he had a good game. Either way, the game against Utah was just a good shooting night.

[Maddog]

So far 2.25 games on I think Bertans has the best shot
Both literally and figuratively

[2centsworth]

Bertans is a high IQ player with some skills.

[palangi]

I don't get all the love for an average player like bertans.

[raybies]

Jean-Charles smh

[yavozerb]

I don't get all the love for an average player like bertans.

When your surrounded with less than average players you tend to stick out...

[milkyway21]

Scott Layden interview...complete opposite of D the one-liner Pop :D

[Darkwaters]

Nice drive by Bertans. Hes been able to make that play with decent regularity throughout SL

[BatManu20]

Bertans is a high IQ player with some skills.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsiiIa6bs9I

[Darkwaters]

I don't get all the love for an average player like bertans.

I don't get all the love for Kyle Anderson.

Shall we just split the difference?

[2centsworth]

Anderson's jump shot is not good. no Rythm

[littlecoyotecoin]

I don't get all the love for an average player like bertans.

Well, to be fair, saying he may make training camp isn't exactly a LOT of love. He has made some nice plays that show some seasoning. And, he can shoot. They'll probably want someone bigger for a Belly replacement? And signing Ray, today, sort of takes him out of the running for being a third combo guard backing up the PG position for those that feel he could play a few minutes, there, a la a shitty PG Gary Neal did for us during emergency injury situations.

I thought maybe as a combo guard, maybe, but not after today's signing.

[Spurs da champs]

Anderson's play making ability and ball handling have been subpar to say the least.

[Russ]

The Spurs need to make a coaching change before the next game . . .

[Darkwaters]

Well, to be fair, saying he may make training camp isn't exactly a LOT of love. He has made some nice plays that show some seasoning. And, he can shoot. They'll probably want someone bigger for a Belly replacement? And signing Ray, today, sort of takes him out of the running for being a third combo guard backing up the PG position for those that feel he could play a few minutes, there, a la a shitty PG Gary Neal did for us during emergency injury situations.

I thought maybe as a combo guard, maybe, but not after today's signing.

I've always seen him pretty much as exclusively a 2. Not really a 1 at all. But he has enough playmaking ability that pairing him with Patty might not wreck the offense.

[TheGreatYacht]

Everybody on this team sucks. Only decent guys are Graham and Lallane

[KDKSpurs24]

The Spurs need to make a coaching change before the next game . . .
The coaches will change . . .

[littlecoyotecoin]

The Spurs need to make a coaching change before the next game . . .

Can we do one of those hockey substitutions with players, except send in 15 new ones into the arena? Just swap them all out? Send another bus?

[TXstbobcat]

Wow, Hunter is a deadly shooter

[TheGoldStandard]

They had a day to rest and prepare. No urgency from a lot of these players. I guess they're content not making a team or hanging in the d league

[BatManu20]

RJ Hunter showing why I wanted the Spurs to draft him. If only we could have afforded him.

[palangi]

I don't get all the love for Kyle Anderson.

Shall we just split the difference?
Who said anything about Anderson?

[palangi]

Well, to be fair, saying he may make training camp isn't exactly a LOT of love. He has made some nice plays that show some seasoning. And, he can shoot. They'll probably want someone bigger for a Belly replacement? And signing Ray, today, sort of takes him out of the running for being a third combo guard backing up the PG position for those that feel he could play a few minutes, there, a la a shitty PG Gary Neal did for us during emergency injury situations.

I thought maybe as a combo guard, maybe, but not after today's signing.
I just don't think his shooting is what it needs to be, to even be an option. Seems a little overrated from that first game.

[palangi]

Anderson's play making ability and ball handling have been subpar to say the least.
No doubt. One good game with two average to below average games.

[BatManu20]

KA having another game to forget. These games are really important for him. Needs to show more if he wants to be a contributing part of this team this year.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I've always seen him pretty much as exclusively a 2. Not really a 1 at all. But he has enough playmaking ability that pairing him with Patty might not wreck the offense.

Nope. He's sure not much of a PG. I was not trying to convey that in any way, shape, or form. Neal wasn't either. But, did perform the duty during time of injury to others.

[TheDoctor]

The perks of being a fan. I suppose this is what Knicks' fans feel every game.

[TXstbobcat]

The perks of being a fan. I suppose this is what Knicks' fans feel every game.

:lmao

[Chinook]

LJC has like the worst hands ever.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I just don't think his shooting is what it needs to be, to even be an option. Seems a little overrated from that first game.

I can agree with that.

[littlecoyotecoin]

LJC has like the worst hands ever.

They earned him a European vacation.

[TXstbobcat]

Three games into summer league and LJC has shown no ability as a shooter.

[TheDoctor]

This is horrible. TJ Hunter torched the hell of those bums.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bertans is shit. Looking average as hell against kids, but he's 26.

[Chinook]

Three games into summer league and LJC has shown no ability as a shooter.

I'd settle for him being able to hold onto a rebound.

[raybies]

2-12

[Russ]

KA having another game to forget. These games are really important for him. Needs to show more if he wants to be a contributing part of this team this year.

I'm officially worried . . .

[TheDoctor]

2-12

[littlecoyotecoin]

Three games into summer league and LJC has shown no ability as a shooter.

Or catcher. His blocks and catches look eerily similar to each other.

<ball comes to him>

He says: "Get that shit outta here!"

[DPG21920]

This has been a really disappointing SL for all. I am not impressed with anyone so far. People have had moments, but so many flaws that it doesn't seem overly likely that there are any players who can help the Spurs any time soon.

[Darkwaters]

Who said anything about Anderson?

Weren't you the one cock slobbering him last SL game? If not, my bad.

[RD2191]

KA looks disinterested and unmotivated. Maybe he feels like he's too good to be in summer league?

[AFBlue]

Bertans is shit. Looking average as hell against kids, but he's 26.

Are we watching the same game? Hit open threes and defended well.

[Darkwaters]

This has been a really disappointing SL for all. I am not impressed with anyone so far. People have had moments, but so many flaws that it doesn't seem overly likely that there are any players who can help the Spurs any time soon.

Without a new 1st rounder coming over it's always a bit underwhelming. And Kyle, as our second year experienced player, isn't exactly setting the world on fire. That being said, the Vegas team is supposed to have more talent with a slightly different and upgraded roster.

[TheGoldStandard]

Hopefully the Vegas league will be better, Jarell Eddie

[DPG21920]

Without a new 1st rounder coming over it's always a bit underwhelming. And Kyle, as our second year experienced player, isn't exactly setting the world on fire. That being said, the Vegas team is supposed to have more talent with a slightly different and upgraded roster.

True about LVSL. But some guys have a legit shot to make the team and no one looks even remotely close to NBA level. Kyle looks the closest (IMO) but I can't imagine relying on him as the main back up 3 at this point. Maybe he will shake it off, but disappointing right now.

Hopefully SA can bring in someone who is definitely NBA level as a backup 3.

[palangi]

Weren't you the one cock slobbering him last SL game? If not, my bad.
I did think he had a good games last game. But we weren't talking about that. We were talking about bertans.

im sorry you felt the need to take a shot because I don't like bertans as an NBA player.

[2centsworth]

Hopefully the Vegas league will be better, Jarell Eddie
Looking forward to watching that guy. Can be a fan and still acknowledge Bertans showed flashes. I think his biggest flaw is his inability to shed defenders.

[Darkwaters]

Hopefully the Vegas league will be better, Jarell Eddie

I know his name has been thrown around a lot...but he isn't exactly killing it with Indiana's team right now.

Yesterday against Detroit in the Orlando Summer League: 2-4 (0-2 from 3), 2 rebounds, 1 foul, 1 TO, 4 pts, 18 mins.

Excited much?!

[TXstbobcat]

At least we don't have to watch another dissapointing summer league performance from Ryan Richards.

[AFBlue]

Bertans looks good dude. Scoring on drives through the lane and spot up threes, defending aggressively but intelligently, passing the ball well. His shot wasn't falling like the first game, but he looks legit.

[palangi]

True about LVSL. But some guys have a legit shot to make the team and no one looks even remotely close to NBA level. Kyle looks the closest (IMO) but I can't imagine relying on him as the main back up 3 at this point. Maybe he will shake it off, but disappointing right now.

Hopefully SA can bring in someone who is definitely NBA level as a backup 3.
Kyle has shown one quality NBA trait...rebounding. Unfortunately I was hoping to see more. His turnovers and fumbling with the ball has been disappointing.

[2centsworth]

One thing is for certain, it's going to take a miracle for Livo to play in the NBA.

[palangi]

True about LVSL. But some guys have a legit shot to make the team and no one looks even remotely close to NBA level. Kyle looks the closest (IMO) but I can't imagine relying on him as the main back up 3 at this point. Maybe he will shake it off, but disappointing right now.

Hopefully SA can bring in someone who is definitely NBA level as a backup 3.
I hope mccallum goes.

[TheGoldStandard]

I don't think we will find answers for our roster spots on the summer league but they are a good litmus test for what we can expect as potential roster spots through out the season if they find there way to Austin.

[Raven]

i think the guys are winded.

[palangi]

Bertans looks good dude. Scoring on drives through the lane and spot up threes, defending aggressively but intelligently, passing the ball well. His shot wasn't falling like the first game, but he looks legit.
Legit?

i guess we will see how many teams are knocking down this legit prospects door to sign him.

[palangi]

i think the guys are winded.
They had a day off. And Boston has played the same schedule and seem to be fine.

[ElNono]

I stopped watching in the 1st quarter... just horrible basketball... guess we're spoiled, tbh

[Silver&Black]

I was not able to watch the game....

Somebody please give me the tl;dr version of what happened.

[monkeypunk]

KA looks disinterested and unmotivated. Maybe he feels like he's too good to be in summer league?

That would be a really bad move for him but it does line up with that video of him before we drafted him praising the Spurs but directly after saying that he would be off the board way before we picked. He came off as having a sense of entitlement that he would be a lottery pick.

He should have been humbled by where he was picked and being sent to the Dleague a good bit last year.

He does not look like he's gotten over himself at all and he needs to find some motivation or Pop will Austin Daye his ass.

[TheGoldStandard]

That would be a really bad move for him but it does line up with that video of him before we drafted him praising the Spurs but directly after saying that he would be off the board way before we picked. He came off as having a sense of entitlement that he would be a lottery pick.

He should have been humbled by where he was picked and being sent to the Dleague a good bit last year.

He does not look like he's gotten over himself at all and he needs to find some motivation or Pop will Austin Daye his ass.

He's better than the players in the D league.. the guy needs to get burned by real professionals but not at our expense.. He'll be back in Austin this season.

[BackHome]

yeah i don't see anyone that I want our our team this season.....rather go overseas or get some other teams player.

[K...]

Fuck is the season ruined because Kyle Anderson sucks. Fuck it all.

[RD2191]

That would be a really bad move for him but it does line up with that video of him before we drafted him praising the Spurs but directly after saying that he would be off the board way before we picked. He came off as having a sense of entitlement that he would be a lottery pick.

He should have been humbled by where he was picked and being sent to the Dleague a good bit last year.

He does not look like he's gotten over himself at all and he needs to find some motivation or Pop will Austin Daye his ass.
Yeah, I agree. It's just crazy to see how he landed at the best place possible for his skill set yet looks disinterested. Hopefully we will see some motivation/energy soon.

[BillMc]

Missed the game. Anyone give me the 3 line summary? Who stood out?

[TheGoldStandard]

Missed the game. Anyone give me the 3 line summary? Who stood out?


Marcus Smart..

[Darkwaters]

Bertans looks good dude. Scoring on drives through the lane and spot up threes, defending aggressively but intelligently, passing the ball well. His shot wasn't falling like the first game, but he looks legit.

Exactly. His shot has looked off the last 2 games after having been great the first game. But the other aspects of his game are very encouraging. It's very typical for SL players to be incredibly one-dimensional gunners or disinterested in defense. Bertans is out there doing a little bit of everything. Driving, shooting from deep, coming off screens, playmaking and actually trying to be in good defensive position. Hes obviously got a very high BBIQ. Those are the things that I'm seeing and liking. Shooters get hot and go cold. Once the sample size gets larger with more games we can make a fairer judgment on that regard. But the rest of his game looks decently complete. Hes obviously a little limited with just average wingspan and athleticism. He doesn't have much upside and is more or less a finished product (with some assumed growth coming with the usual adjustment period). But even considering that, I think hes an obvious training camp invite and a darkhorse end of the bench roster addition.

[BillMc]

Marcus Smart..

Unfortunately he plays for the opposition. Sounds like KA was less than impressive from the posts I'm seeing. I'm beginning to be worried...

[TheGoldStandard]

Unfortunately he plays for the opposition. Sounds like KA was less than impressive from the posts I'm seeing. I'm beginning to be worried...

Nothing to be concerned about. He's not going to be anything special to the Spurs this season. Makes you wonder if they will pick anyone up as a backup 2/3

[Darkwaters]

Unfortunately he plays for the opposition. Sounds like KA was less than impressive from the posts I'm seeing. I'm beginning to be worried...

2-12 from the field.
6 TO

He wasn't inspiring...

[Darkwaters]

Unfortunately he plays for the opposition. Sounds like KA was less than impressive from the posts I'm seeing. I'm beginning to be worried...

2-12 from the field.
6 TO

He wasn't inspiring...

[TheGoldStandard]

This might be the one flaw in the Spurs this season ( there is always something to complain about) and that'll be depth at the 2/3 spot and how stacked we are at PG/PF

[BillMc]

Nothing to be concerned about. He's not going to be anything special to the Spurs this season. Makes you wonder if they will pick anyone up as a backup 2/3


2-12 from the field.
6 TO

He wasn't inspiring...

Thanks guys. Doesn't sound too thrilling, but, hey its early. :depressed

[ceperez]

Thanks guys. Doesn't sound too thrilling, but, hey its early. :depressed

Yup, rather these folks learn what they did wrong early before it is too late.

[Darkwaters]

This might be the one flaw in the Spurs this season ( there is always something to complain about) and that'll be depth at the 2/3 spot and how stacked we are at PG/PF

I think we're actually less stacked at PG this season than last year. With CoJo coming into his own last year we had a lot of depth (but also a big falloff from Parker to balance it a bit...plus the longterm Patty injury).

[AFBlue]

Exactly. His shot has looked off the last 2 games after having been great the first game. But the other aspects of his game are very encouraging. It's very typical for SL players to be incredibly one-dimensional gunners or disinterested in defense. Bertans is out there doing a little bit of everything. Driving, shooting from deep, coming off screens, playmaking and actually trying to be in good defensive position. Hes obviously got a very high BBIQ. Those are the things that I'm seeing and liking. Shooters get hot and go cold. Once the sample size gets larger with more games we can make a fairer judgment on that regard. But the rest of his game looks decently complete. Hes obviously a little limited with just average wingspan and athleticism. He doesn't have much upside and is more or less a finished product (with some assumed growth coming with the usual adjustment period). But even considering that, I think hes an obvious training camp invite and a darkhorse end of the bench roster addition.

And it's not like he missed every shot he took in the last two games either (looking at you Cady), as he still knocked down his fare share of jumpers on both nights. It just wasn't the barrage that we saw on the first day. He has a quick, compact, repeatable stroke that I don't see any issue with it not playing at the next level. For all this talk about average athleticism, he's blown by defenders and finished at the rim multiple times in the last two games.

I'm not saying this kid is an all-star...just saying I see a well-rounded player that looks ready to contribute, if called upon, at the next level. Spurs took on Neal and Baynes who were unproven talents and turned them into rotation players. I don't see why people would be dismissing the possibility outright, given the need to replace Beli.

[tholdren]

2-12 from the field.
6 TO

He wasn't inspiring...

LOTTERY TALENT... I wonder why he fell so far in the draft?

[SnakeBoy]

Unfortunately he plays for the opposition. Sounds like KA was less than impressive from the posts I'm seeing. I'm beginning to be worried...

I'm not worried. Defensively he has improved from last year, although he still has plenty of work to do. Turnovers don't concern me yet, quite a few of them would have been nice passes if he was playing with guys who could handle a pass. Plus it's SL and just generally sloppy ball. Biggest concern to me is his shooting %, just really inconsistent. I was hoping to see Kawhi like improvement from the offseason but it hasn't happened. He's not going to be asked to play heavy minutes and be a primery scoring threat. I don't get the criticism that he's not running the offense well, it's the SL...not a lot of good to great going on when everyone else is just chucking bad jumpers every time they touch the ball.

He'll be an end of the bench guy and a project so I don't know why so many are freaking out that he's not completely dominating the SL. Then again those same people are impressed with LJC and Bertans both of which are complete trash.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nothing to be concerned about. He's not going to be anything special to the Spurs this season. Makes you wonder if they will pick anyone up as a backup 2/3

He's basically going to take Austin Daye's spot in the rotation.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm not saying this kid is an all-star...just saying I see a well-rounded player that looks ready to contribute, if called upon, at the next level. Spurs took on Neal and Baynes who were unproven talents and turned them into rotation players. I don't see why people would be dismissing the possibility outright, given the need to replace Beli.

There is no need for an undersized gunner when Patty is on the roster. Marco was able to play w/ Patty b/c he had size to pass as a faux wing player thus wasn't getting posted up by scrubs just like Patty was bullied by Austin Rivers. If Patty/Bertans played together they would get smoked. With the acquisition of McCallum there is really no spot on the roster for another undersized guard.

[AFBlue]

There is no need for an undersized gunner when Patty is on the roster. Marco was able to play w/ Patty b/c he had size to pass as a faux wing player thus wasn't getting posted up by scrubs just like Patty was bullied by Austin Rivers. If Patty/Bertans played together they would get smoked. With the acquisition of McCallum there is really no spot on the roster for another undersized guard.

Based on what I've seen, this guy on Day 1 is a better defender than Marco. I don't care that he gives up an inch or two of height, I've seen him play smarter and more aggressively on that end than Marco ever did. Also, look at McCallum's FG percentages...has never been a great shooter. I see this kid making open shots and smart plays with the summer league squad and can't help but think what he could do while surrounded by much better players that will allow him to operate in space as a catch-and-shoot role player.

[littlecoyotecoin]

There is no need for an undersized gunner when Patty is on the roster. Marco was able to play w/ Patty b/c he had size to pass as a faux wing player thus wasn't getting posted up by scrubs just like Patty was bullied by Austin Rivers. If Patty/Bertans played together they would get smoked. With the acquisition of McCallum there is really no spot on the roster for another undersized guard.

While I agree with AFBLUE assessment of Bertans, this is the best case against him making the Spurs team. Belly guarded LeBron, at times. Not well, but he got the assignment. That's a non-starter for Bertans. Just too small for the role on this team. Patty has his role, and he's too small to be a Manu/Belly. Might make another team that doesn't have a Patty?

[RayTdropout]

Like hunter.

[latvianantonio]

Already Having contract in Spain...

[Johnny RIngo]

From what I've seen, none of SA's summer league guys are good enough to make the roster. Which is probably why Pop and RC are taking so long to find another player to fill out the roster before locking up Kawhi and Danny

[jeebus]

So pretty much everyone on the summer league team is a pile of shit. Big surprise. And :lol at the people who are begging for Fat Head to be on the Spurs, yet he still sucks enormous amounts of cock.

[unleashbaynes]

:lol roasted by Marcus Dumbfuck, Anderson fuckin blows from what I saw. Kept not knowing what to do with the ball and leaving his feet/picking up his dribble too early. Bertans was the only one who looked competent.

[SAGirl]

BErtans got blown by a few times, but whoever was the PG was the one consistently getting burned by Smart, which is what you expect since Smart was a high lottery pick, and the PG a scrub. Also #41 was ball watching and leaving his man open repeatedly allowing Smart to pick the Spurs apart easy.

[Beaverfuzz]

Fuck is the season ruined because Kyle Anderson sucks. Fuck it all.

He's sucked for awhile now, good thing that more and more people are seeing this suckage.

[Obstructed_View]

Bertans looks good on both ends of the floor. He's going to stick with someone this year. LJC (who is staying in France this season) could probably be in the rotation for a lot of teams just off his defense and rebounding, though he has hit one jump shot in three games. The only part of Anderson's game that really worries me is his handles, as he's turned the ball over by losing his dribble more times than I expected. None of these guys are going to do anything but tread water in the minutes they're given, and if Kyle plays the way he's played in Utah, just without the turnovers, that will put him ahead of Cory Joseph at the same stage.