What move are Spurs trying to pull before signing Leonard & Green?

[Marcus Bryant]

Today naturally would have been the day to also announce the signings of the rest of the Spurs' free agency commit class, Leonard, Green, West, & Ginobili.

So what deal are the Spurs trying to pull? Between Reggie Williams' contract (non-guaranteed?) and cap space the Spurs could offer a salary dump to another team of some magnitude, before signing Leonard, Green, et al to their new contracts.

Who's out there on a $3.0 to $3.5 mil contract the Spurs could be looking to deal for?

[Silver&Black]

Rasho Nesterovic

[DPG21920]

Has to be a wing. Spurs only have 1 SF on the roster & one player with any length (all guards are smaller than most SF's - even if DG is capable of switching around).

After what we've seen from Kyle to start SL & with the little extra money, I would have to venture they are looking for that back up wing player either in FA or via trade.

Dorrell Wright? KJ? Rasual?

[Walter Donovan]

Matt Bonner and/or Jeff Ayres

[DesignatedT]

Do the Spurs have that much space still open? Can offer someone ~$3M?

[ElNono]

You didn't hear it from me, but we're looking for a legit center as our 5th big... mostly for the nights where Tim and West get rest.

[hater]

JR smith

do it Pop

[DPG21920]

Do the Spurs have that much space still open? Can offer someone ~$3M?

Per Bruno - if Spurs waive Reggie, they have 1.8M in cap space. If they trade him, they can take back about 2.5M.

[exstatic]

Leonard, Manu, and West will all be signed OVER the cap, meaning after all moves are done.

They must have someone in mind. Tim took so little, even with the higher cap.

[TheGoldStandard]

This is exactly what I expect from the Spurs.. Seems to fit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVNNEH_N7o

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully a backup wing player..

The options at C are scarce, regardless, and the 4 rotation bigs are already set for the playoffs, I don't see them trading for a relevant C..

The perimeter is the weakest part of the team, right now, need either another shooter or defender(hopefully somebody that can do both, although those players are tough to find) behind Kawhi and DG..not only for production, but also for the nights where the Spurs sit Ginobili..

[apalisoc_9]

Most likely a wing at this point considering the latest PG acquisition. If I am not mistake they'd have about 2 million dollars, assuming they do the obvious and waive Williams.

[FromWayDowntown]

According to Basketball-Reference, the following are in that general price range:

Terrence Ross ($3.553)
Matt Barnes ($3.542)
Nerlens Noel ($3.457)
Marcus Smart ($3.431)
Bojan Bogdanovic ($3.425)
Evan Turner ($3.425)
Quincy Pondexter ($3.382)
Anthony Morrow ($3.344)
Mike Scott ($3.333)
Andre Drummond ($3.272)
Randy Foye ($3.270)
Ben McLemore ($3.156)
Julius Randle ($3.132)
Meyers Leonard ($3.075)
Jeremy Lamb ($3.034)
Furkan Aldemir ($3.000)
D.J. Augustin ($3.000)
Jerryd Bayless ($3.000)
Anthony Tolliver ($3.000)
John Henson ($2.943)

Obviously, many of those are likely either unavailable or uninteresting.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^I'd only take Bogdanovic, Pondexter and Lamb from that list, tbh..

[HarlemHeat37]

Doubt Orlando would give up Harkless or Nicholson for nothing, but we can dream:lol..

Maybe Philly could give up Covington, even after his solid season?

[apalisoc_9]

I wonder if the hawks would trade for scott..I've seen him defend the Perimter in Atlanta..not the worse, and he can shoot threes...But The spurs have enough bigs though.

Jeremy lamb would be nice. Doubt the thunder would do anything with the spurs.

[hater]

Mike Scott ($3.333)
Bojan Bogdanovic ($3.425)
Matt Barnes ($3.542)

In that order....


would consider:
Nerlens Noel ($3.457)

[FromWayDowntown]

Per Bruno - if Spurs waive Reggie, they have 1.8M in cap space. If they trade him, they can take back about 2.5M.

Following up, these seem to fall within that range:

C.J. McCollum POR $2,525,160
Elfrid Payton ORL $2,505,720
James Johnson TOR $2,500,000
Terrence Jones HOU $2,489,530
Shelvin Mack ATL $2,433,333
Michael Carter-Williams MIL $2,399,040
Andrew Nicholson ORL $2,380,594
Doug McDermott CHI $2,380,440
Evan Fournier ORL $2,288,205
Donatas Motiejunas HOU $2,288,205
Steven Adams OKC $2,279,040
Jared Sullinger BOS $2,269,260
Tony Wroten PHI $2,179,354
Ramon Sessions WAS $2,170,465
Danny Granger PHO $2,170,465
Beno Udrih MEM $2,170,465
Steve Blake BRK $2,170,465
Larry Sanders MIL $2,170,000
Kelly Olynyk BOS $2,165,160
Zach LaVine MIN $2,148,360
Miles Plumlee MIL $2,109,294
Shabazz Muhammad MIN $2,056,920
Zoran Dragic MIA $2,050,397
T.J. Warren PHO $2,041,080
Perry Jones OKC $2,038,206
Festus Ezeli GSW $2,008,748
DeJuan Blair WAS $2,000,000
Kent Bazemore ATL $2,000,000
Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL $1,953,960
Adreian Payne MIN $1,938,840
Lucas Nogueira TOR $1,842,000
Jusuf Nurkic DEN $1,842,000

[benefactor]

Always been a Pondexter fan tbh.

[DesignatedT]

Watch the Spurs sign Gigi Datome. Just keep seeing his name and can't help but envision a SpursTalk meltdown after they sign him.

[DPG21920]

Was just thinking Harkless. I would have taken McLemore, but obviously they would have done that if they could/wanted to with the other trade.

[Texas_Ranger]

Bonner will probably be the 5th big. There aren't really any Centers left. Aldrich, Perkins and perhaps Bargnani, but they all suck. And for the wing I am sure the Spurs are searching for a guy that can shoot the 3. So I'd say Dorrell Wright would be a good option. And if they are looking for a defender then Prince.

[HarlemHeat37]

I wouldn't be mad about Datome, actually..he sucks, but I think the Spurs are the type of team that could use energy players, Patty might be the only one on the team..so many games where the Spurs come out flat and uninterested, usually the games where Pop benches all 5 starters:lol..

[apalisoc_9]

Bazemoore.

Also, I don't want him..but fournier is expandable now with Hezonja drafted

[apalisoc_9]

Is Datome the awkward running dude that plays for Boston?

Nigga hustles tbh. :lol

[DesignatedT]

Fournier has shown flashes.

[HarlemHeat37]

James Johnson would be good, but NBA coaches seem to strongly dislike giving him minutes, for whatever reason:lol(probably shooting, I suppose)..

[apalisoc_9]

Bonner will probably be the 5th big. There aren't really any Centers left. Aldrich, Perkins and perhaps Bargnani, but they all suck. And for the wing I am sure the Spurs are searching for a guy that can shoot the 3. So I'd say Dorrell Wright would be a good option. And if they are looking for a defender then Prince.

What?

da hell...

[Russ]

Today naturally would have been the day to also announce the signings of the rest of the Spurs' free agency commit class, Leonard, Green, West, & Ginobili.

So what deal are the Spurs trying to pull? Between Reggie Williams' contract (non-guaranteed?) and cap space the Spurs could offer a salary dump to another team of some magnitude, before signing Leonard, Green, et al to their new contracts.

Who's out there on a $3.0 to $3.5 mil contract the Spurs could be looking to deal for?

What happened to Seraphin?

Or the Spurs can play the long game and keep some cap room to bid for talent that becomes available during the season. (They got Diaw mid-season.)

[noles1983]

Olynyk what about him?

[024]

I saw Anthony Morrow on the list... is he available? He just needs to stand at the 3 pt line and shoot. Perfect role.

[apalisoc_9]

James Johnson would be good, but NBA coaches seem to strongly dislike giving him minutes, for whatever reason:lol(probably shooting, I suppose)..

Holy shit, I didn't even see his name up there.

James Johnson was one of the best players for the raps last year. Dude was always a positive on the court..

Sign him NOW!

[TheGoldStandard]

What?

da hell...

3 without a lot of D = Luke Babbitt. Guy shot 51% from 3 this season

[HarlemHeat37]

What happened to Seraphin?

Or the Spurs can play the long game and keep some cap room to bid for talent that becomes available during the season. (They got Diaw mid-season.)

Seraphin is way too redundant with West and Diaw already on the team..

[DesignatedT]

Prince is done. Butler is done. Even Wright looks pretty slow. I liked the idea of Wright for awhile but he can't really do much but shoot. Would rather get somebody who can handle the ball a little bit better but still have good length and size.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs-Hawks deal coming, the second part of the underwhelming Splitter trade today.:fishing

[Mugen]

Always thought Jeremy Lamb was a good project for the Spurs. Him being one of the ugliest dudes I've ever seen gives him a pretty high floor as a defensive player tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Holy shit, I didn't even see his name up there.

James Johnson was one of the best players for the raps last year. Dude was always a positive on the court..

Sign him NOW!

Casey hates giving him minutes, though..as bad of a coach as he is, there still must be a reason that Johnson can never stick with a team, despite being a solid defender and energy player..

[DPG21920]

Ben Gordon might be possible. Has a Gary Neal handle, more talent than Neal/Beli, but has been pretty busted and seems like he might not care about winning. But hey, Spurs have made more from less by putting a player into a good situation.

[HarlemHeat37]

And ya, I'd rather get a Beli replacement, if anything..

With Green and Mills being limited in putting the ball on the floor, and Ginobili either having a bad game/sitting out, Spurs could use another wing that can put the ball on the floor and/or shoot..weak defense would be a problem in the playoffs, but it's more important for the Spurs to find a wing guy that can eat up regular season minutes like Beli did..

The key for this team is health and preserving bodies for the playoffs, they will need to have some depth for those shitty December games vs. the Knicks and Wolves, etc..

[DesignatedT]

Just keep thinkin if it's one of those 50 game Manu seasons, do we have enough ball handling/play making without him running the second unit.

[DesignatedT]

What about Shved?

[Mugen]

I'd rather whoever they bring in at the wing to be a knockdown shooter rather than a good defender tbh. As I see it, I see two knockdown shooters on the team in Patty & Danny...

Also, easier to find a shooter who can thrive in the Spurs system than a solid defender for cheap tbh......

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd rather whoever they bring in at the wing to be a knockdown shooter rather than a good defender tbh. As I see it, I see two knockdown shooters on the team in Patty & Danny...

Also, easier to find a shooter who can thrive in the Spurs system than a solid defender for cheap tbh......

Enter Luke Babbitt

[Mugen]

What about Shved?

Dude has a Kobe mindset with a Nando skillset tbh. No thanks.

[apalisoc_9]

Evan Fournier is probably the best at handling the ball out of that list...And he's also expandable I think with Hezonja drafted.

He's also 6'7.

But why would the Magics even trade him..He was one of their main scoring options at the start of the season last year. :lol

[DesignatedT]

Who else can handle the ball out there. I like the Fournier idea but yeah.

[Marcus Bryant]

What happened to Seraphin?

Or the Spurs can play the long game and keep some cap room to bid for talent that becomes available during the season. (They got Diaw mid-season.)

The space goes away after they sign Leonard and Green to their new contracts. Then you have the room and minimum exceptions. Ginobili is rumored to be signed for the room and West to a minimum. Basically they could use the cap space to sign Manu and then leave the room exception open for use later in the year.

[DesignatedT]

Damn if only we had Beli on that $3M contract for one more year.

[HarlemHeat37]

The options for another wing that can put the ball on the floor through cheap FA or trades is pretty scarce, though..

Jeremy Lamb
Fournier
Ben Gordon/Marcus Thornton(chuckers, horrible defenders, a la Gary Neal)
Covington(on and off at putting it on the floor and not a playmaker, though)
Alexei Schved

[DesignatedT]

I bet they end up just giving West the remainder of whats left out of the cap or RE anyway.

[Mr. Body]

The options for another wing that can put the ball on the floor through cheap FA or trades is pretty scarce, though..

Jeremy Lamb
Fournier
Gordon
Covington(on and off at putting it on the floor)
Alexei Schved

I don't see the Spurs having the assets to trade for somebody. It would have to be a straight sign.

[apalisoc_9]

Who else can handle the ball out there. I like the Fournier idea but yeah.

Lamb maybe..Some Guards out there that can handle the ball, but Fournier would fill a couple of needs. Guard play and Wing play..Only other player that I can think of that can do the same is Jeremy Lamb but he really looked awkward handling the ball in OKC. He was a lot better in college..Probably just a result of poor system.

[HarlemHeat37]

I wonder how much Will Barton is going to get, haven't heard any rumors about him..probably holding out for more money after putting up nice, empty numbers with the Nuggets following the trade from Portland, I would imagine..unless he already agreed with a team and I didn't hear about it..

[DPG21920]

I don't see the Spurs having the assets to trade for somebody. It would have to be a straight sign.

Seems like several teams are trying to avoid or lessen their tax bills. Sometimes just being able to take on a player at 2.4M can save a team A LOT of money. Key is finding someone you like.

I have no idea what SA is doing, but it's interesting to speculate with the delay in signing.

[apalisoc_9]

I wonder how much Will Barton is going to get, haven't heard any rumors about him..probably holding out for more money after putting up nice, empty numbers with the Nuggets following the trade from Portland, I would imagine..unless he already agreed with a team and I didn't hear about it..

Would you sign him for the reminder two million? He looks awful to me..

[Mr. Body]

Seems like several teams are trying to avoid or lessen their tax bills. Sometimes just being able to take on a player at 2.4M can save a team A LOT of money. Key is finding someone you like.

I have no idea what SA is doing, but it's interesting to speculate with the delay in signing.

That makes sense.

[Mugen]

Would be nice if the Spurs could swing Perry Jones if OKC ends up having to salary dump to keep Kanter. Presit has never done the Spurs a solid tbh

[DPG21920]

No way the Spurs would consider moving Patty or Boris - would they?

[Mugen]

That'd be silly.

[Mr. Body]

No way the Spurs would consider moving Patty or Boris - would they?

Their value is tremendous and near irreplaceable.

[hater]

Damn if only we had Beli on that $3M contract for one more year.

:cry but but he's a cancer to our team :cry

:lol dumb fucking retarded fanbase

[DesignatedT]

Starting to think the Spurs should have looked harder at Justin Holiday. Marcus Thornton is there...

[hater]

Would be nice if the Spurs could swing Perry Jones if OKC ends up having to salary dump to keep Kanter. Presit has never done the Spurs a solid tbh

Kanter signed with Blazers

[HarlemHeat37]

Would you sign him for the reminder two million? He looks awful to me..

Probably not, I hate wings that can't shoot, his ceiling is probably Corey Brewer, but you could do worse with limited assets..

[Mugen]

hater, you retard.

[HarlemHeat37]

No way the Spurs would consider moving Patty or Boris - would they?

Would be really stupid IMO, there's no way you can acquire a player that even touches their production:lol..

[DPG21920]

We know that TD/LMA/KL/TP/MG/DG/DW are not tradeable. That only leaves Boris/Patty/Reggie/Kyle. Combining Kyle with Reggie (maybe teams really like Kyle) allows SA to bring back much more than 2.4M.

[Mugen]

Hopefully none of those teams have watched Summer League tbh.

[DPG21920]

Their value is tremendous and near irreplaceable.

Agreed - I was just speculating because this has been such a wild Summer.

[HarlemHeat37]

The Spurs have holes, but let's not act like these holes are significant, tbh:lol..

Maybe the 4th wing player or the 5th big could be the difference in winning/losing a championship, but it's not significant enough to take a major risk or trade any assets..it's still July, too, we don't know what the buyout market will look like mid-season, or the caliber of players on the trading block(even on the Spurs roster, maybe Parker doesn't recover, for instance)..

[DesignatedT]

There's already way too much change on the team. Pop is probably already freakin out, doubt he wants to lose any more "corporate knowledge"

[hater]

We know that TD/LMA/KL/TP/MG/DG/DW are not tradeable. That only leaves Boris/Patty/Reggie/Kyle. Combining Kyle with Reggie (maybe teams really like Kyle) allows SA to bring back much more than 2.4M.

chances are midseason options will be better if we want to trade those. plus Anderson's value has probably never been lower :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Damn, I guess the spurs aren't the international team anymore. Most players are from the US now..:lol

if they have someone in mind, it will probably pop up in the next couple of days.

[DesignatedT]

Also, the Spurs will have the buyout deadline to be players in as well, like usual :lol. Usually some decent talent out there at that time and I would imagine SA being a desirable landing spot for some lol

[Splits]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/spurs/imgs/131010_ayres_roster.jpg

[DPG21920]

Would be really stupid IMO, there's no way you can acquire a player that even touches their production:lol..

For sure - but I'm not ruling anything out - even the most unlikely. But a combo or Reggie/Kyle allows you to bring back 3.5M

[hater]

Diaw might get moved. you heard it first here

[monkeypunk]

Diaw might get moved. you heard it first here

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

[HarlemHeat37]

Trading Diaw would be pointless IMO..I'd be surprised if he has any value across the league, tbh, he means much more to the Spurs than he could for any other team..

Spurs fans love Diaw, he has been huge for the team, but let's be honest, he's been a cancer in his other stints outside of Phoenix..didn't want to play for Atlanta and sulked, became obese with the Bobcats, etc..I don't think any team would risk trading for him, especially at his age..

[DesignatedT]

Diaw might get moved. you heard it first here

Doubtful. They just would have moved him over Splitter to begin all this.

[Mr. Body]

Diaw is like the powerful Magic: The Gathering card that no other player can use.

[hater]

I like Diaw but if we were to move someone there's no one else :lol

[steeledl]

Rasho Nesterovic

Faggots locked my thread Ellen PAO style but he would put us over the top.

[DPG21920]

Didn't mean it to be likely - just pondering. IMO Kyle/Reggie the only ones that havea chance to be moved reasonably.

[Seventyniner]

It might be best to sign Manu with cap space and carry the room exception through the season to outbid other teams on bought-out vets.

[DPG21920]

Maybe a list of teams to pay closer attention too than others?

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[SpurPadre]

Too bad Sefolosha isn't available.

[Mugen]

Whenever I see a Billy King team on the list of possible trade partners, my mouth waters tbh.

Too bad there's nobody on the Nets worth a look.

[Mr. Body]

Whenever I see a Billy King team on the list of possible trade partners, my mouth waters tbh.

Too bad there's nobody on the Nets worth a look.

Steve Blake?

[Silver&Black]

Faggots locked my thread Ellen PAO style but he would put us over the top.

Never seen a poster commit e-suicide in their first 10 posts...

Dude is retired. Last played for the Raptors in 2010. That's why they locked your dumbass thread.

[ElNono]

What about Shved?

He's horrible, that's why he keeps changing teams.

[Texas_Ranger]

Williams for Dragic..............................Zoran Dragic.

[tholdren]

JR smith

do it Pop

you should be banned

[Mugen]

Steve Blake?

Gross.

[Mr. Body]

Gross.

Handles the ball, hits threes.

[tholdren]

Handles balls, get threes in his face.
FIFY

[DesignatedT]

Just call Orlando and get Fournier. Simple.

[Vic Petro]

Nets drafted Hollis-Jefferson. Bogdanovic may be attainable.

[steeledl]

Never seen a poster commit e-suicide in their first 10 posts...

Dude is retired. Last played for the Raptors in 2010. That's why they locked your dumbass thread.


Shit Jordan retired before a couple times. So did favre.

[spursince#99]

We're definitely looking at Alexey Shved. Heard from a source. Enjoy your day.

[Silver&Black]

Shit Jordan retired before a couple times. So did favre.

Normally, I would say something like, "If it's for the minimum, why not?"

But, he's RETIRED!!!!! No reason to offer the minimum to a guy who is RETIRED!!!!

[DarrinS]

Benoooooooooooo

[tholdren]

Normally, I would say something like, "If it's for the minimum, why not?"

But, he's RETIRED!!!!! No reason to offer the minimum to a guy who is RETIRED!!!!
could you still offer the minimum to a retired player?

[coachmac87]

Alonzo Gee?

[DesignatedT]

Well I mean I guess they could be planning on just keeping Reggie Williams lol

[RLT]

He's still got it

http://www.eljuegodenaismith.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NesterovicEditado1.jpg

[steeledl]

could you still offer the minimum to a retired player?
I don't see why not. Plus the dude is adored by Spurs fans around the world .

[spurraider21]

He's horrible, that's why he keeps changing teams.
except against kawhi :lol

[steeledl]

He's still got it

http://www.eljuegodenaismith.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NesterovicEditado1.jpg


Looks fit. Hair is thicker than ever.

[MaNu4Tres]

Fournier, Pondexter, or Bazemore.

Wed have to give up Kyle Anderson to get close -- which is fine by me.

[Texas_Ranger]

Rasho actualy played for Olympiacos in 2011 and he'd probably play for them for more seasons if he hadn't had a career ending injury.

[benefactor]

Fournier, Pondexter, or Bazemore.

Wed have to give up Kyle Anderson to get close -- which is fine by me.
Mah dude.

[baseline bum]

I could see the Thunder dumping Morrow to lessen their luxury tax hit, but would you really want the Spurs to help OKC hold on to Kanter?

[baseline bum]

Hopefully none of those teams have watched Summer League tbh.

Is Anderson shitting it up? Are these games even broadcast?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Following up, these seem to fall within that range:

C.J. McCollum POR $2,525,160
Elfrid Payton ORL $2,505,720
James Johnson TOR $2,500,000
Terrence Jones HOU $2,489,530
Shelvin Mack ATL $2,433,333
Michael Carter-Williams MIL $2,399,040
Andrew Nicholson ORL $2,380,594
Doug McDermott CHI $2,380,440
Evan Fournier ORL $2,288,205
Donatas Motiejunas HOU $2,288,205
Steven Adams OKC $2,279,040
Jared Sullinger BOS $2,269,260
Tony Wroten PHI $2,179,354
Ramon Sessions WAS $2,170,465
Danny Granger PHO $2,170,465
Beno Udrih MEM $2,170,465
Steve Blake BRK $2,170,465
Larry Sanders MIL $2,170,000
Kelly Olynyk BOS $2,165,160
Zach LaVine MIN $2,148,360
Miles Plumlee MIL $2,109,294
Shabazz Muhammad MIN $2,056,920
Zoran Dragic MIA $2,050,397
T.J. Warren PHO $2,041,080
Perry Jones OKC $2,038,206
Festus Ezeli GSW $2,008,748
DeJuan Blair WAS $2,000,000
Kent Bazemore ATL $2,000,000
Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL $1,953,960
Adreian Payne MIN $1,938,840
Lucas Nogueira TOR $1,842,000
Jusuf Nurkic DEN $1,842,000

[monkeypunk]

I could see the Thunder dumping Morrow to lessen their luxury tax hit, but would you really want the Spurs to help OKC hold on to Kanter?

Kanter doesn't make them a contender, still missing a few pieces and sadly KD may never be the player he was.

If it helps us round out our bench, get it done.

[baseline bum]

Kanter doesn't make them a contender, still missing a few pieces and sadly KD may never be the player he was.

If it helps us round out our bench, get it done.

OKC is definitely a contender if Durant is healthy. I know it's a big if, but you can't just assume his career is wrecked yet.

[still.focused]

If OKC matches the Kanter offer sheet Perry Jones III is more than likely done for

[Kindergarten Cop]

Kanter is in Portland now, bro.

Doesn't OKC have seven days to decide whether or not to match (and if you take Presti at his word, they will indeed match it and keep him in OKC)?

[Aztecfan03]

I could see the Thunder dumping Morrow to lessen their luxury tax hit, but would you really want the Spurs to help OKC hold on to Kanter?
If we don't take him, someone else might anyways.

[Aztecfan03]

Doesn't OKC have seven days to decide whether or not to match (and if you take Presti at his word, they will indeed match it and keep him in OKC)?

yep. that's why i deleted the post. haha

[Mugen]

Is Anderson shitting it up? Are these games even broadcast?

Had a nice game last outing but overall meh tbh. His lack of athleticism is apparent even against summer league talent. I haven't seen an nba rotation player so far but it's early I guess.

[DesignatedT]

OKC has til Sunday I believe

[Robz4000]

I could see the Thunder dumping Morrow to lessen their luxury tax hit, but would you really want the Spurs to help OKC hold on to Kanter?

I'd want to. Kanter is a cancer.

[spurraider21]

Pondexter would be ok, but i'd prefer a reserve with a little more firepower, even if he has some chucker in him. Pondexter is just an inferior Green. I'd rather have somebody like Marco who brings something different to the table. that's why i'd prefer a more reckless offensive player like Bazemore, Gordon, Thornton, etc

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't see the Spurs making those guys wait that long to sign. Was thinking more along the lines of trying to do a deal today before they signed tomorrow.

Of course, tomorrow is the press conference for Aldridge so I guess they want that to dominate the news cycle.

[spurraider21]

Babbitt came to terms on a deal with Pels for 2 years, 2.5 mil.

I'd really like to take a flier on Ben Gordon tbh. i'm really disappointed with how the Pistons ruined what could have been a decent career for him

[TheGoldStandard]

Babbitt came to terms on a deal with Pels for 2 years, 2.5 mil.

I'd really like to take a flier on Ben Gordon tbh. i'm really disappointed with how the Pistons ruined what could have been a decent career for him

Damn Babbitt hit 51% from 3 last year and 55% from the corner

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

We're definitely looking at Alexey Shved. Heard from a source. Enjoy your day.

Tbh, this guy called Aldridge signing the morning of July 4th, the night before it went down.

[Joseph Kony]

Tbh, this guy called Aldridge signing the morning of July 4th, the night before it went down.

So did a lot of people

[SpursBig3s]

in for later

[Keepin' it real]

Damn if only we had Beli on that $3M contract for one more year.
Why? So everyone would keep complaining about his poor defense?

[DPG21920]

I don't see the Spurs making those guys wait that long to sign. Was thinking more along the lines of trying to do a deal today before they signed tomorrow.

Of course, tomorrow is the press conference for Aldridge so I guess they want that to dominate the news cycle.

Agree - although possible, hard to imagine this dragging out past tomorrow. Especially on the shoulders of the Deandre Jordan debacle.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

I would rather give Glenn Robinson III a chance then any of these washed up wings. I do like the idea of Ben Gordon in the Neal/Marco shooter role. Cant be any worse defensively and he can actually dribble and drive to the basket.

[Kawhitstorm]

I wonder how much Will Barton is going to get, haven't heard any rumors about him..probably holding out for more money after putting up nice, empty numbers with the Nuggets following the trade from Portland, I would imagine..unless he already agreed with a team and I didn't hear about it..

He's a restricted FA thus the Nuggets are in no hurry to offer him a contract until he signs an offer-sheet since they don't know his market price.

[Kawhitstorm]

Babbitt came to terms on a deal with Pels for 2 years, 2.5 mil.

I'd really like to take a flier on Ben Gordon tbh. i'm really disappointed with how the Pistons ruined what could have been a decent career for him

Ben Gordon doesn't seem like the type of guy content w/ being the 9th man while playing for a vet min. If Patty was traded then he could have been the designated gunner but it seem like Patty isn't going anywhere & w/ the acquisition of Mccallum there is no need for a combo guard on the roster.

[spurraider21]

Ben Gordon doesn't seem like the type of guy content w/ being the 9th man while playing for a vet min.
he hasn't been relevant in a while. he'll take what he can get

[Kawhitstorm]

he hasn't been relevant in a while. he'll take what he can get

He's cashing checks as we speak b/c he is getting payed not to play by the Magic.

[Mr. Body]

I'm calling a second deal with Atlanta, for the hell of it. They had to get the first half out of the way and are still working on the second.

[spurraider21]

He's cashing checks as we speak b/c he is getting payed not to play by the Magic.
if he accepted a bench role for the magic im sure he'd take a bench role for the spurs

[ChumpDumper]

OKC has til Sunday I believeIf a deadline falls a weekend/holiday, the deadline is bumped to the next business day.

[Kawhitstorm]

Prince is done. Butler is done. Even Wright looks pretty slow. I liked the idea of Wright for awhile but he can't really do much but shoot. Would rather get somebody who can handle the ball a little bit better but still have good length and size.

Prince/Butler are basically good for spot minutes aka the Bonner role. Dorrell Wright couldn't get off the crappy Blazers bench that Marco torched in 2014 even though he was a seasoned vet thus I'm not sure what to make of him as a rotation player on a contender. I remember hearing him say that he didn't like driving to the basket despite his above average athleticism b/c he was trying to save his knee which is why he became a spot up shooter, lol! Rasual Butler is basically James Jones 2.0 except he just a bit more athletic & a bit less lethal from outside.

My choice would be Jason Richardson (as long as he has recovered for his knee injury) since he can score in a variety of ways (shoot the rock , postup or take it to the hoop) He would be Michael Finley 2.0 if he has a career resurrection ala Vince w/ the Mavs. Otherwise, Dorrell Wright could be wooed by LMA to join him at the Alamo for the vet min.

J-Rich still got hops, just ask D-West: pIMQ5bUi7ko

[Kawhitstorm]

if he accepted a bench role for the magic im sure he'd take a bench role for the spurs

He turned down contenders to sign w/ the Magic last season b/c he was offered 9 mill rather than the vet min. In any case, Pop can't play Gordon/Patty in the same back-court since they would get eaten alive on defense. Gary Neal got minutes w/ the Spurs b/c Patty wasn't a rotation player at that time otherwise it would have been a disaster.

[HarlemHeat37]

Dorrell Wright wants to go to Miami, he said it on a radio show or something last week IIRC..not sure if they'll actually take him, though..

[DPG21920]

Dorrell Wright wants to go to Miami, he said it on a radio show or something last week IIRC..not sure if they'll actually take him, though..

:lol Yeesh. They just signed Gerald Green and picked up Winslow. Don't see a spot for him in MIA. He shot well enough percentage wise from 3 past couple years I think, but he wasn't very good.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol Yeesh. They just signed Gerald Green and picked up Winslow. Don't see a spot for him in MIA. He shot well enough percentage wise from 3 past couple years I think, but he wasn't very good.

Crabb was getting minutes over him & Kyle Anderson dominated Crabb.

[honestfool84]

What about Barnes? That way we have the Kawhi Killer on our team.

[ElNono]

What about Barnes? That way we have the Kawhi Killer on our team.

Barnes was traded to Memphis, IIRC... they can probably use his outside shooting

[phxspurfan]

Beno welcome back

[DesignatedT]

Hmm does j rich have anything left ?

[MaNu4Tres]

Hmm does j rich have anything left ?

Can still shoot it. However, his athleticism has taken a nose dive and he'd be a huge liability on the defensive end.

[SpursDynasty21]

Are the Spurs trying to make a move or is it just speculation?

[R. Canterbury Buford]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?

[TheDoctor]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/spurs/imgs/131010_ayres_roster.jpg

:lmao

[Plum Island]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?
I seriously doubt that they would take such a deal seriously. They love Gobert.

[szkorhetz]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?
No way, Gobert it much better than that.

[Kawhitstorm]

Can still shoot it. However, his athleticism has taken a nose dive and he'd be a huge liability on the defensive end.

Can't be worse than Marco on defense..at least J-Rich has size to hold his own on the post.

[GooberNuts]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?

This would never happen. Gobert has hella potential

[Kawhitstorm]

Hmm does j rich have anything left ?

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[MaNu4Tres]

Can't be worse than Marco on defense..at least J-Rich has size to hold his own on the post.

Post defense for a SG is the least of my worries.

[keepinitwill]

We need to trade for Williams and a pick for Gorgui Dieng (http://hoopshype.com/player/gorgui-dieng/). We would be unstoppable!

[tim_duncan_fan]

This would never happen. Gobert has hella potential

Potential? You mean he might have hella something in the future?

Gobert has hella NOW in the present!

I was calling for us to go after him before I knew this LMA thing was anywhere close to possible. I was pretty much saying give them Kawhi for him.

Gobert is gonna be a fucking beast. Like scary, 22 12 and 3.5 blocks good.

I'm sure Utah sees it. Only question is will they surround him with the right pieces and a good, strong coach to lead him and that organization. Because dude is gonna be ridiculous.

[Kawhitstorm]

Post defense for a SG is the least of my worries.

He would be playing SF since Manu is the SG

[SpurPadre]

Come on, Bud, do us another favor and send us Sefolosha for KA and Bonner (via sign and trade).

[JR3]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?

I live in utah. Gobert is basically God around here. People are well aware that he immediately improved their team when he started after the manger trade. He is the sole reason they think they can make the same playoffs this year.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd take Jason Richardson over the other old vets(Butler, Prince, etc), but his weight gain has me concerned, tbh:lol..I haven't looked at him in a while, but from the 6ers games I watched this past season, he looks like he spent all off-season eating with Tony Parker..

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Gobert is already better than DeAndre Jordan, a player that just received a massive contract and hype..only concern with Gobert is that his body type seems to indicate that he's probably going to suffer from injuries later in his career, unfortunately..

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Rasho Nesterovic

:lol

[kaji157]

Question: Did the Spurs aquire a trade exception with the Splitter deal?

IF YES: Can they use it after they sign everyone to make a trade?

[ace3g]

I know the chances are low since he looks to be an important part of the Nets' rotation but Bojan Bogdanovic would be a great addition. From video I have seen, looks like he could step right in and replace most of what Belinelli did. Even makes really good cuts within the offense instead of just standing around the perimeter. Shows a knack for playing in the post a bit.

[Aztecfan03]

Question: Did the Spurs aquire a trade exception with the Splitter deal?

IF YES: Can they use it after they sign everyone to make a trade?
yes.

no. Needed to renounce it to sign LMA.

[kaji157]

yes.

no. Needed to renounce it to sign LMA.

:bobo

[Kawhitstorm]

I'd take Jason Richardson over the other old vets(Butler, Prince, etc), but his weight gain has me concerned, tbh:lol..I haven't looked at him in a while, but from the 6ers games I watched this past season, he looks like he spent all off-season eating with Tony Parker..

He has been inactive for the past 3 seasons...Bobo would whip him up into shape

[Ditty]

Still hanging on to hope that their will be some mutual interest between Ray Allen and the Spurs soon that he will join us sometime in the midsession. Maybe they will use the prorated BAE on him.

For the big man situation I will be happy with either Aldrich or Seraphin, as they're low risk high reward bigs. I'm surprised Serpahin hasn't signed here yet because the chick he is banging lives here and she's very nice as I dated her back in high school :lol.

[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs have renounced the rights to Tracy McGrady, Robert Horry and Glenn Robinson @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs also renounced the rights to Nick Van Exel @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/) - I am NOT making this stuff up - these are facts


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Manu Ginobili - he'll be re-signing via the room exception, not Bird rights @BBallInsiders

(https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Jacque Vaughn and Damon Stoudamire @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)

[Raven]

Why not trade for Rudy Gobert as a 5th big he's on a dirt cheap rookie deal? I'm sure Utah would consider KA and LJC + a protected 1st rounder?

i honestly doubt they would trade him for leonard tbh..

[ElNono]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs have renounced the rights to Tracy McGrady, Robert Horry and Glenn Robinson @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs also renounced the rights to Nick Van Exel @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/) - I am NOT making this stuff up - these are facts


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Manu Ginobili - he'll be re-signing via the room exception, not Bird rights @BBallInsiders

(https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Jacque Vaughn and Damon Stoudamire @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)









damn, cleaning up all the cobwebs :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

damn, cleaning up all the cobwebs :lol

Exorcising the demon by wiping out all the failed FA acquisitions.

[Vic Petro]

Still hanging on to hope that their will be some mutual interest between Ray Allen and the Spurs soon that he will join us sometime in the midsession. Maybe they will use the prorated BAE on him.

For the big man situation I will be happy with either Aldrich or Seraphin, as they're low risk high reward bigs. I'm surprised Serpahin hasn't signed here yet because one of the chicks he is banging lives here and she's very nice as I dated her back in high school :lol.

FIFY

[Kawhitstorm]

Still hanging on to hope that their will be some mutual interest between Ray Allen and the Spurs soon that he will join us sometime in the midsession. Maybe they will use the prorated BAE on him.

For the big man situation I will be happy with either Aldrich or Seraphin, as they're low risk high reward bigs. I'm surprised Serpahin hasn't signed here yet because the chick he is banging lives here and she's very nice as I dated her back in high school :lol.

-Ray Allen isn't coming out of retirement after he passed up the opportunity to jump on the LeBron train last season.

-As far as Seraphin, he is most likely holding out for a 1 year offer to be a starter & cash in next season since he has stated playing time is his #1 priority.

-I wouldn't mind Aldrich considering his rim protection/rebounding ability although he isn't a good PnR player nor do he set good screens unlike Tiago/Baynes. He did surprisingly have a high assist rate for a center playing in the triangle last season. Overall, he would be a definite upgrade over Ayres.

[Bruno]

Spurs lack of depth on the wing is quite big. Kyle Anderson questionable SL performance isn't reassuring even if it clearly isn't the best setup for a player like him.
Spurs still have a little space but it's very little. They barely have above the min salary exception to sign a vet.

Given these parameters, the most likely is that Spurs are either looking to do a small trade for a SG/SF or at looking to sign an overseas SG/SF. The euro being quite low compared to the dollar and the financial uncertainty in some countries might convince some a quality player to join Spurs.

This wait might also very well be nothing like just being a time/logistic issue or just being Spurs wanting to sign Lalanne to a longer/bigger contract than a min salary.

[BatManu20]

If Kyle continues to struggle through SL, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he spends half the season in Austin again. That's a valuable roster spot and I'm sure Pop would be more than willing to fill it with someone who he thinks can help us out better than the 21 year old can right now.

[BatManu20]

But yes, as most have stated in this thread, Wing is by far the biggest position of need. Prince and Butler have been mentioned the most, but I have a feeling PATFO are looking elsewhere.

Evan Fournier would be another good prospect, and he's probably my favorite option at this point. I'm sure PATFO are doing their diligence on him, as well as a few others.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbbHjSNVAE

[Uriel]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs have renounced the rights to Tracy McGrady, Robert Horry and Glenn Robinson @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The San Antonio Spurs also renounced the rights to Nick Van Exel @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/) - I am NOT making this stuff up - these are facts


Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Manu Ginobili - he'll be re-signing via the room exception, not Bird rights @BBallInsiders

(https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)The Spurs also renounced the rights to Jacque Vaughn and Damon Stoudamire @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)








:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

But yes, as most have stated in this thread, Wing is by far the biggest position of need. Prince and Butler have been mentioned the most, but I have a feeling PATFO are looking elsewhere.

Evan Fournier would be another good prospect, and he's probably my favorite option at this point. I'm sure PATFO are doing their diligence on him, as well as a few others.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbbHjSNVAE

The Magic gave up Affalo coming off a boarder-line All-Star season for Fournier (aka Poor-man's Manu) when they could have acquired a better known commodity b/c they really wanted Fournier so they aren't going to give him up for a measly 2nd rd pick ala McCallum.

[Kawhitstorm]

If Kyle continues to struggle through SL, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he spends half the season in Austin again. That's a valuable roster spot and I'm sure Pop would be more than willing to fill it with someone who he thinks can help us out better than the 21 year old can right now.

He's going to get that CoJo treatment until he develops.

[Chinook]

Thinking more along the lines of PJ Hairston than Fournier. The Spurs aren't gonna get anyone remotely established with that cap space. PJ checks all the boxes, and the Spurs can trade Williams for him, so they wouldn't have to time their signings too much.

[timvp]

Spurs lack of depth on the wing is quite big. Kyle Anderson questionable SL performance isn't reassuring even if it clearly isn't the best setup for a player like him.
Spurs still have a little space but it's very little. They barely have above the min salary exception to sign a vet.

Given these parameters, the most likely is that Spurs are either looking to do a small trade for a SG/SF or at looking to sign an overseas SG/SF. The euro being quite low compared to the dollar and the financial uncertainty in some countries might convince some a quality player to join Spurs.

This wait might also very well be nothing like just being a time/logistic issue or just being Spurs wanting to sign Lalanne to a longer/bigger contract than a min salary.

Maybe they're throwing the rest of the cap space at Printezis? I read somewhere that he's a free agent and I'm assuming getting a contract in Greece isn't an easy thing to do right now. Spurs couldn't do any better than him with the money they have left.

Bruno, is there any reason Printezis would have been added to the Splitter trade if the Spurs didn't have interest in him? Hypothetically, one would assume the Spurs could have simply traded Splitter for a top-55 protected second round pick. However, perhaps there's something in the CBA that changed ...

[Chinook]

Maybe they're throwing the rest of the cap space at Printezis? I read somewhere that he's a free agent and I'm assuming getting a contract in Greece isn't an easy thing to do right now. Spurs couldn't do any better than him with the money they have left.

Bruno (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2449), is there any reason Printezis would have been added to the Splitter trade if the Spurs didn't have interest in him? Hypothetically, one would assume the Spurs could have simply traded Splitter for a top-55 protected second round pick. However, perhaps there's something in the CBA that changed ...

Yeah, it's actually the opposite. The Spurs had to get the pick as part of the deal so that the league would let Splitter-for-Printezis happen. Printezis hasn't come over in so long that the league would probably have ruled him "unlikely to come over", which would have meant that he would have not counted as 'something' for trade purposes. So the Hawks added the pick so that they would for sure be sending out 'something' and the trade would go through. I imagine that was the hangup a couple days ago.

It seems the Spurs specifically wanted him in the deal, so I do think they have interest in bringing him over. But I don't know if he makes sense on the roster as currently constructed.

EDIT: And yeah, I'm not Bruno. But that's the answer as far as I see it.

[AFBlue]

Does it have to be a deal? Can't they just be giving LaMarcus his day and then flying in from wherever to sign the paperwork and have their presser?

[Maddog]

Maybe they're throwing the rest of the cap space at Printezis? I read somewhere that he's a free agent and I'm assuming getting a contract in Greece isn't an easy thing to do right now. Spurs couldn't do any better than him with the money they have left.

Bruno, is there any reason Printezis would have been added to the Splitter trade if the Spurs didn't have interest in him? Hypothetically, one would assume the Spurs could have simply traded Splitter for a top-55 protected second round pick. However, perhaps there's something in the CBA that changed ...

That's an excellent question.
Interesting fact:
Printzeis rights have now been held by 7 different teams
Spurs twice

SA
Toronto
Dallas
New York
Portland
OKC
Atlanta
SA
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/printgi01.html

[Streakyshooter08]

Maybe they're throwing the rest of the cap space at Printezis? I read somewhere that he's a free agent and I'm assuming getting a contract in Greece isn't an easy thing to do right now. Spurs couldn't do any better than him with the money they have left.

I am not sure but I think he is signed until 2017...

[timvp]

Yeah, it's actually the opposite. The Spurs had to get the pick as part of the deal so that the league would let Splitter-for-Printezis happen. Printezis hasn't come over in so long that the league would probably have ruled him "unlikely to come over", which would have meant that he would have not counted as 'something' for trade purposes. So the Hawks added the pick so that they would for sure be sending out 'something' and the trade would go through. I imagine that was the hangup a couple days ago.

It seems the Spurs specifically wanted him in the deal, so I do think they have interest in bringing him over. But I don't know if he makes sense on the roster as currently constructed.

EDIT: And yeah, I'm not Bruno. But that's the answer as far as I see it.

Yeah, I knew about the rule that was instituted to stop teams simply trading away foreign players that would never come over. However, does it work the other way? For example, could the league office say that a top-55 protected second round pick wasn't enough so to make it look more legit the Hawks threw in Printezis? I'm just trying to figure out if Printezis was an actual target or if the Spurs took him as part of a league mandated minimum compensation package.

[Chinook]

Yeah, I knew about the rule that was instituted to stop teams simply trading away foreign players that would never come over. However, does it work the other way? For example, could the league office say that a top-55 protected second round pick wasn't enough so to make it look more legit the Hawks threw in Printezis? I'm just trying to figure out if Printezis was an actual target or if the Spurs took him as part of a league mandated minimum compensation package.

According to Mark Deeks, top-55 is good enough. You're right that the league did take a stronger stance on minimum considerations for trades recently, though.


First of all, the memo establishes what the league considers now to be 'minimum consideration', parameters it says that have been established over time and through precedent. Section (a) states that the minimum consideration to be given in all trades regardless of the number of teams involved is thereafter to be one of the following, with teams required to give and receive at least one of them:

i) a player under contract,
ii) a future draft pick, the maximum protection of which is 55 spots,
iii) a player's draft rights, but specifically those of a player with a 'reasonable' chance of signing in the NBA one day (something judged at the discretion of the NBA), or
iv) $75,000.

http://www.shamsports.com/2014/07/consideration-in-trades-and-trade.html#more

[timvp]

According to Mark Deeks, top-55 is good enough. You're right that the league did take a stronger stance on minimum considerations for trades recently, though.

http://www.shamsports.com/2014/07/consideration-in-trades-and-trade.html#more

Great find, thanks :tu

So I guess there is legit interest in Printezis. Most likely an extreme longshot to ever get him to the NBA but it appears that the Spurs figured he's with the flier.

[Bruno]

Spurs signing Printezis wouldn't be more shocking than when they signed Oberto or Haislip. All 3 are/were good but not great Euro players around 30 years old. The big issue to me is that he is another PF while Spurs are loaded at that spot. Adding him wouldn't make a lot of sense roster wise.

Chinook gave a great answer regarding the Splitter trade. Now questions are:
- Was Printezis included in the likely turned down by the NBA version of the trade because Spurs wanted him?
- Did he stay in the second version of the trade because Spurs wanted him or just because Hawks/Spurs didn't want to admit to the league they were right when saying that Printezis was a "fake" consideration?

[apalisoc_9]

If you consider the spurs roster right now and how old the guy is, it's most likely a fake consideration.

I've watched printzis a few times, and while he's a decent euro level player..His skill level is just a tad bit below NBA level. He is athletic, but not by NBA standard. there's a reason why he's 30 and still in europe.

[kobyz]

Deron Williams gonna be release by the nets, could be fantastic addition for us, could play the one and the two and maybe even the three, will give us great quality and creativity of the bench and insurance when/if Manu become bad Manu...

[Marcus Bryant]

Great find, thanks :tu

So I guess there is legit interest in Printezis. Most likely an extreme longshot to ever get him to the NBA but it appears that the Spurs figured he's with the flier.

Would make sense, need a little time to finalize player contract and any team buyout, and, as noted, Greece isn't the easiest place to do business these days.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Deron Williams gonna be release by the nets, could be fantastic addition for us, could play the one and the two and maybe even the three, will give us great quality and creativity of the bench and insurance when/if Manu become bad Manu...

He already stated he is going to Dallas. Mavs consolidation prize I guess.

[NASpurs]

Is there anyway the Spurs can sucker Minny to give us Dieng? :lol How about Muhammad for that matter?

[timvp]

Spurs signing Printezis wouldn't be more shocking than when they signed Oberto or Haislip. All 3 are/were good but not great Euro players around 30 years old. The big issue to me is that he is another PF while Spurs are loaded at that spot. Adding him wouldn't make a lot of sense roster wise.When he was drafted, he was regarded as a rugged Jerome Kersey (RIP :() type of small forward. I saw him play that position earlier in his career. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play in the last few years so perhaps he's a full-time PF now.


Chinook gave a great answer regarding the Splitter trade. Now questions are:
- Was Printezis included in the likely turned down by the NBA version of the trade because Spurs wanted him?
- Did he stay in the second version of the trade because Spurs wanted him or just because Hawks/Spurs didn't want to admit to the league they were right when saying that Printezis was a "fake" consideration?Ah, yeah, that makes sense.

Spurs and Hawks agree to Splitter for Printezis. League says no because Printezis has been with 36 teams and never came to the NBA. The Hawks end up adding in that protected second round pick to make the league office happy.

That would also explain why there were reports that the Splitter trade hit a snag right before it was announced.

Nice work, you two :tu

[apalisoc_9]

Is there anyway the Spurs can sucker Minny to give us Dieng? :lol How about Muhammad for that matter?

why would they do this? :lol

This is like hitting 5 three pointers straight and feeling so hot that you decide to take a 40 foot three pointer....:lol

[NASpurs]

why would they do this? :lol

This is like hitting 5 three pointers straight and feeling so hot that you decide to take a 40 foot three pointer....:lol

:lol I don't know, that's why I used the word "sucker" lol.

As for Muhammed, don't they have him, Wiggings and Budinger? I'm sure Wiggins is going to get the majority of all of those minutes at SF. Stop being stingy Minny and cough up Muhammed. :lol I'm guessing last year with half of the team out with injuries would make them wary of trading someone.

[Chinook]

Funny thing is, the Spurs may well get that pick. I wonder if that makes it more or less likely that Printezis is a real consideration.

[lilsupa]

Why does everyone keep thinking that Kyle's summer league performance will hurt his chances. Remember George Hills performance in summer league he was worse and he turned out fine

[Chinook]

Why does everyone keep thinking that Kyle's summer league performance will hurt his chances. Remember George Hills performance in summer league he was worse and he turned out fine

Duncan had a poor summer-league debut. But if Anderson looks outclassed physically in the summer league, it kind of taints his prospects a bit. He get's space on his drive using his forearm. I don't know if refs will let him do that consistently in the NBA.

[Texas_Ranger]

Printezis could work as a SF on offense but I don't know about him defending wing player. He can dribble the ball probably better than Danny Green, has good post up game and can shoot the 3. I think he is a great defensive player on the PF position, but I just don't think he's fast on his feet to guard athletic wings. He's something like a Mirza Teletovič just with a much better defense.

[theman21]

Many may not be high on him or know who he is, and he may even need to take a slight pay cut but Anthony Morrow is a legit scorer that could play very well within the Spurs system.


http://youtu.be/qZ8Oxqv8tMI

[99 Problems]

Ryan Broekhoff was being discussed by a few of us in the think tank a few days back. Anyone heard any rumours there?

[jermaine]

Many may not be high on him or know who he is, and he may even need to take a slight pay cut but Anthony Morrow is a legit scorer that could play very well within the Spurs system.


http://youtu.be/qZ8Oxqv8tMI

I've always thought he'd be the next Ray Allen.

[kaji157]

Many may not be high on him or know who he is, and he may even need to take a slight pay cut but Anthony Morrow is a legit scorer that could play very well within the Spurs system.


http://youtu.be/qZ8Oxqv8tMI

I like him a lot, but i seriously doubt it happens.

On another subject, could it be possible that the Spurs bring over Prizentzis or whatever to trade him along with Kyle Anderson?

I am the only one that thinks that the Spurs need both a C and a Wing?

[joeyjfive]

Hopefully OKC matches Kanters offer sheet and we can go after Steven Adams as Timmy's back up. I really think he'd be perfect but I doubt they'd want us to have him.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I like him a lot, but i seriously doubt it happens.

On another subject, could it be possible that the Spurs bring over Prizentzis or whatever to trade him along with Kyle Anderson?

I am the only one that thinks that the Spurs need both a C and a Wing?

Why would they bring over yet another power forward? Agreed. They need a Belinelli replacement, Tiago replacement at center, and maybe a small forward depending upon who their Belinelli replacement is.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I like him a lot, but i seriously doubt it happens.

On another subject, could it be possible that the Spurs bring over Prizentzis or whatever to trade him along with Kyle Anderson?

I am the only one that thinks that the Spurs need both a C and a Wing?

I would say you need both, but the timing of getting the big is not as important. There will be lots of quality big play between LA, TD, BD, and DW. You could fill in with Ayres and Bonner for the time being and be fine. The wing need is more urgent without anyone really behind Manu (maybe Williams is the guy?) and with Kyle Anderson looking underwhelming it is important to have another wing that can hit a 3 (and hopefully, but not required to play some D). The Spurs will likely be one of the top 2 places that buy-outs will look to this year. That could yield some significant returns a la Boris Diaw. If they cannot find a true 5 to back up Tim I think Tyler Hansborough would be a great fit and could be had for the minimum.

[SAGirl]

I am starting to think from here on out any signing is going to be for an under the radar guy. There is only a limited budget and whoever is signed will play very little unless there are lengthy injuries. An unknown project for a big man very much like Baynes, which is fine because hopefully he is unlikely to play much. For a wing possibly a shooter and I doubt for a wing you will find anyone better than Anderson. People better hope he pulls it together.

[ceperez]

I am starting to think from here on out any signing is going to be for an under the radar guy. There is only a limited budget and whoever is signed will play very little unless there are lengthy injuries. An unknown project for a big man very much like Baynes, which is fine because hopefully he is unlikely to play much. For a wing possibly a shooter and I doubt for a wing you will find anyone better than Anderson. People better hope he pulls it together.

When Baynes was picked up, the Spurs had Splitter, so the Spurs had the luxury of him having time to learn the system. That's different now where we need that center to be able to relieve Duncan during the regular season.

I expect the Spurs to sign someone by the start of the season. There are several stiffs out there like Thabeet and McGee. It is just a question of how far the Spurs will tolerate incompetence.

[SAGirl]

Thabeet is horrendous. He can't play. I saw him in a dleague game I watched against Austin. BArely played 10 mins b4 fouled out. He also had stamina issues. He looked aweful even in the d'league so I don't think he is an nba player at all.

[buttsR4rebounding]

And Anderson no doubt will look better (please) when he is not the focal point and is being guarded by the other team's likely worst defender and guarding their worst offensive player.

[buttsR4rebounding]

When Baynes was picked up, the Spurs had Splitter, so the Spurs had the luxury of him having time to learn the system. That's different now where we need that center to be able to relieve Duncan during the regular season.

I expect the Spurs to sign someone by the start of the season. There are several stiffs out there like Thabeet and McGee. It is just a question of how far the Spurs will tolerate incompetence.

Ayres actually played his best ball the last third of the season. It actually gave me some hope that he was catching on. The fact that he knows the system gives him a huge advantage when choosing between the bigs that remain.

[TheGoldStandard]

Anderson as the backup 3 is a huge gamble and no to Jeff ayers.

[monkeypunk]

And Anderson no doubt will look better (please) when he is not the focal point and is being guarded by the other team's likely worst defender and guarding their worst offensive player.

He's got talent and produced some when he started last year but he just doesn't look like he gives two shits about summer league, minus the second game. He needs to prove something to Pop now just to get in the rotation, then he should be productive against second units, like you said.

[ceperez]

And Anderson no doubt will look better (please) when he is not the focal point and is being guarded by the other team's likely worst defender and guarding their worst offensive player.

Anderson is a decent role player. He has to get that into his head first. He's never going to be the star, so he's got to grow up and start focusing on parts of the game where he needs to improve (i.e. 3 point shooting).

[ceperez]

Anderson as the backup 3 is a huge gamble and no to Jeff ayers.

I don't think so. Anderson has good basketball IQ and can pass. So inserting him in the team does not stop the offense.

You can't say the same for other more athletic players that the Spurs never pick up. Why didn't the Spurs pick up Gerald Green? A guy that can jump out of the gym and can hit the 3.

[Spurs9]

Hopefully OKC matches Kanters offer sheet and we can go after Steven Adams as Timmy's back up. I really think he'd be perfect but I doubt they'd want us to have him.
I don't see how we can afford him, but I'd take him in a heartbeat, I don't see how OKC gives him up either. Can you imagine the toughness of Adams/West on the Spurs? :wow

[bluebellmaniac]

Ayres actually played his best ball the last third of the season. It actually gave me some hope that he was catching on. The fact that he knows the system gives him a huge advantage when choosing between the bigs that remain.

Hate to admit it, but if the C doesn't need to score, then Ayres actually might work. We need a rebounder and someone to give TD rest. LMA has been clear in not wanting to play C. He knows the system. He won't get better, but we would be better than the names being tossed around.

[ceperez]

Ayres actually played his best ball the last third of the season. It actually gave me some hope that he was catching on. The fact that he knows the system gives him a huge advantage when choosing between the bigs that remain.

Sigh... he's just to small to be a center. Spurs will find someone... hope it is not Jeff Ayres.

[ceperez]

Hate to admit it, but if the C doesn't need to score, then Ayres actually might work. We need a rebounder and someone to give TD rest. LMA has been clear in not wanting to play C. He knows the system. He won't get better, but we would be better than the names being tossed around.

No... does not need to score, but needs to be credible in defense.

No to Jeff Ayres.... just say no!

[monkeypunk]

shitass double post

[SAGirl]

I agree Ayers Is not viable as a C. He really is too small, bench guys like Kosta Koufus were eating him alive last season and then he doesn't make up for it on the other end. There is a reason he really didn't play much at all. Crossing fingers for a taller/longer guy.

[benefactor]

Ryan Broekhoff was being discussed by a few of us in the think tank a few days back. Anyone heard any rumours there?
They will probably wait until they get a look at him in the SL. He's playing for Denver.

[Chinook]

They will probably wait until they get a look at him in the SL. He's playing for Denver.

If their plan is to use that cap space on him, they'll only get so much time to wait. Too many things unsettled. Gotta lock those guys up before someone tries to test how much it would take to pry them away.

[Bruno]

619521892060385280

it would be a nice and cheap gamble. :bobo

[DPG21920]

lolwhat

[loveforthegame]

Nevermind.

[Marcus Bryant]

619521892060385280

it would be a nice and cheap gamble. :bobo

Unga bunga bunga gee. Wha?

[Texas_Ranger]

It's about Boban Marjanovic.

The Serbian news are saying that he's gonna sign with the Spurs.... That would be great, he's a great center.

[Bruno]

Unga bunga bunga gee. Wha?

Spurs might sign Boban Marjanovic.

[monkeypunk]

It's about Boban Marjanovic.

The Serbian news are saying that he's gonna sign with the Spurs.... That would be great, he's a great center.

Bobo and Boban on the same team? NBA = FUCKED!!

:lol

[szkorhetz]

https://www.facebook.com/yugobasket/photos/a.516469601718286.121915.516146838417229/993777817320793/?type=1&theater

[Das Texan]

Spurs might sign Boban Marjanovic.

who?

I mean they need more foreigners, have really fucked up their foreign legion this summer, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Rather have Jeff Withey. Boban is huge, but he's so slow laterally. I just don't know how that's effective anymore.

[Texas_Ranger]

Marjanović averaged 16,6pts & 10,7reb in 24 Euroleague games and was named All Euroleague 1st team.

[ironman2886]

https://www.facebook.com/yugobasket/photos/a.516469601718286.121915.516146838417229/993777817320793/?type=1&theater
Tf?

[DPG21920]

Marjanović averaged 16,6pts & 10,7reb in 24 Euroleague games and was named All Euroleague 1st team.

I know he's done well in Euroleague, but not sure how he would translate to SA. Obviously, he's talented and huge and has played well at a top level, but I guess for as cheap can't do much better. He's only like 27,right?

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs might sign Boban Marjanovic.

Cool thanks!

[ironman2886]

The giant from the movie, Big Fish?

[Aztecfan03]

Unga bunga bunga gee. Wha?

google translate: From now moving quest for gigantic spurs . Where to find such a large number of spurs ?

[Texas_Ranger]

I know he's done well in Euroleague, but not sure how he would translate to SA. Obviously, he's talented and huge and has played well at a top level, but I guess for as cheap can't do much better. He's only like 27,right?

Yea he gonna be 27 in August. I like his offense, but he's pretty slow and isn't really that great on defense for his size.