Vicaroge of Jonathon Simmons

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

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:toast
We can tell. lol:lol

[Chinook]

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Spoken like a true non-Spur. /:pop:

[DJR210]

*kneels down at the altar and sacrifices a cat for Lord Simmons*

[Mr. Body]

I'm so impressed by his progress. Thought there was no way he'd contribute. He's like a good James White that relishes contact.

The Manu comparisons do neither of them a favor. To me he's closer to Gary Neal, less in terms of playing style than in the FO's ability to find these super-fringe nowhere guys that are actually super promising.

[ceperez]

I'm so impressed by his progress. Thought there was no way he'd contribute. He's like a good James White that relishes contact.

The Manu comparisons do neither of them a favor. To me he's closer to Gary Neal, less in terms of playing style than in the FO's ability to find these super-fringe nowhere guys that are actually super promising.

James White had a lot of leaping ability but was missing (1) ability to score in traffic with either hand and (2) ability to pass in traffic. That's why I've been so big a supporter of Simmons. You could see this way back in Summer League play.

Richard Jefferson was one of those guys who could score in traffic, however the real difference between Simmons and Jefferson is that Simmons can attack at different angles and he can't pass if he is covered. Dwayne Wade is the player that reminds me most about him.

Crazy enough the pre-draft measurements, Simmons actually is bigger than Wade and leaps higher! What Simmons does not have is Wade's jumpshot.

[Mr. Body]

James White had a lot of leaping ability but was missing (1) ability to score in traffic with either hand and (2) ability to pass in traffic. That's why I've been so big a supporter of Simmons. You could see this way back in Summer League play.

Richard Jefferson was one of those guys who could score in traffic, however the real difference between Simmons and Jefferson is that Simmons can attack at different angles and he can't pass if he is covered. Dwayne Wade is the player that reminds me most about him.

Crazy enough the pre-draft measurements, Simmons actually is bigger than Wade and leaps higher! What Simmons does not have is Wade's jumpshot.

White hated contact, making him useless, while Simmons seems to thrive or at least not mind it.

[ceperez]

White hated contact, making him useless, while Simmons seems to thrive or at least not mind it.

That's what Manu and Simmons have in common, they aren't afraid of contact. Unfortunately, Manu is 38 years old and who knows if el-contusion can make it through this season.

[steeledl]

Most exciting free agent acquisition since aldridge... Tbh.


Not a jersey guy (I think the only one I ever owned was rodman when I was a little kid)but was curious as to if any of you have bought one yet?

[daslicer]

Most exciting free agent acquisition since aldridge... Tbh.


Not a jersey guy (I think the only one I ever owned was rodman when I was a little kid)but was curious as to if any of you have bought one yet?

I also had a Rodman jersey back in middleschool along with a Robinson jersey.

[ceperez]

Article comparing Manu when he was a rookie and Simmons: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/1/8/10737086/manu-ginobili-and-jonathon-simmons


However, as I looked deeper at the stats it becomes clear that on both the per 36 minute and per 100 possessions, Simmons is more efficient as a shooter than Manu was, but also a more talented rebounder and providing similar assist numbers.

The only categories that Manu was markedly better than Simmons were defensive stats like blocks and especially steals.

[dabom]

PTR using ST material. :lol

[dabom]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255903&page=3
hater finding the goods by accident. :lol

[SAGirl]

Never saw Manu in his youth, but Manu is so much more than the athletic plays. The leadership, BBIQ, shooting, competitive fire. Many of his hustle plays are him anticipating what the opponent is doing and taking a gamble that pays off or not, but it pays off often enough and wins you enough games that you have to let him be himself. Finally, the passing, it's more talented,unique and unexpected than any other current player I have seen. Manu kind of leads players to the open spots with his passes.

I recognize that J.Simms has a similar effect in pushing our tempo and creating for the second unit, but Manu is a truly special player. Others may remind us of him, but won't be him. I think I am starting to sour on the comparisons bc they don't do Manu (or Simmons, as he's his own guy) justice.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmITIqkkqyY&feature=youtu.be&a

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmITIqkkqyY&feature=youtu.be&a

Likely made possible because Boban was trailing Pick your poison, either defend against Simmons or have him pass to the big man.

[100%duncan]

Simmonssssssss

[Brazil]

I do like him a lot

dude >>> KA

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I had no doubt in my mind Simmons could replace Manu as the Spurs future 6th man. He is no manu, but he is as every bit athletic and the one thing he has over young Manu is his size and strength. He rarely gets knocked down going to the rim. I don't expect him to as injured prone as Manu.

He was just thinking too much out there in the Preseason and he wasn't properly closing out on screens on D. And plus he wasn't gauging the speed of help defenders and that led to a lot of his turnovers. The video below would not have happen in the preseason or early season. Simmons has truly adjusted his game to account for the speed of help defenders at an NBA Level

I am a little surprised he has progressed so fast since the preseason. But I am not surprised of the product thus far. Simmons has elite NBA athleticism and he can take almost any defender one-on-one to the hoop. The missing element was his passing off the double teams. I think he has that pretty much down at this point. So much, help defenders are reluctant to leave their guy to guard him at times.

Always thought it funny when some posters here mentioned he should be cut after his preseason performances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSw5tn4tJ6w

[TheDoctor]

Article comparing Manu when he was a rookie and Simmons: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/1/8/10737086/manu-ginobili-and-jonathon-simmons

LMAO :lmao

What an irresponsible article but it doesn't surprise me coming from Pounding the Cock tbh'. Can't compare numbers when one player is hustling vs Starters and the other is mostly playing vs blowout scrubs. What a joke. PTC shitting the bed per par.

[ceperez]

I had no doubt in my mind Simmons could replace Manu as the Spurs future 6th man. He is no manu, but he is as every bit athletic and the one thing he has over young Manu is his size and strength. He rarely gets knocked down going to the rim. I don't expect him to as injured prone as Manu.

He was just thinking too much out there in the Preseason and he wasn't properly closing out on screens on D. And plus he wasn't gauging the speed of help defenders and that led to a lot of his turnovers. The video below would not have happen in the preseason or early season. Simmons has truly adjusted his game to account for the speed of help defenders at an NBA Level

I am a little surprised he has progressed so fast since the preseason. But I am not surprised of the product thus far. Simmons has elite NBA athleticism and he can take almost any defender one-on-one to the hoop. The missing element was his passing off the double teams. I think he has that pretty much down at this point. So much, help defenders are reluctant to leave their guy to guard him at times.

Always thought it funny when some posters here mentioned he should be cut after his preseason performances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSw5tn4tJ6w

Lot's of knee jerk reactions here after having so many years of disappointment with the likes of James 'Flight' Wight, James Gist, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, etc...

Folks got to realize, it isn't the elite athleticism that impressed me, it's the score in traffic and pass in traffic that sets him apart.

[K...]

Lot's of knee jerk reactions here after having so many years of disappointment with the likes of James 'Flight' Wight, James Gist, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, etc...

Folks got to realize, it isn't the elite athleticism that impressed me, it's the score in traffic and pass in traffic that sets him apart.

It's also a bit sad to think about , but one thing the FO has now vs then, is experienced player development, a dedicated d league team, and chip engelland. Lots of those guys who tried our prior to 2012 didn't get the opportunities that Simmons currently has. Not much more to say about it. Sucks for them, other than James Anderson I don't think anyone we waived would really make a difference.

[ceperez]

It's also a bit sad to think about , but one thing the FO has now vs then, is experienced player development, a dedicated d league team, and chip engelland. Lots of those guys who tried our prior to 2012 didn't get the opportunities that Simmons currently has. Not much more to say about it. Sucks for them, other than James Anderson I don't think anyone we waived would really make a difference.

Simmons may be the first D-league talent that Austin has developed that might actually stick with the Spurs.

Jamychal Green could have been that person, but he signed elsewhere.

This is a good sign in that the Austin system might finally pay dividends.

[Dex]

Simmons may be the first D-league talent that Austin has developed that might actually stick with the Spurs.

Jamychal Green could have been that person, but he signed elsewhere.

This is a good sign in that the Austin system might finally pay dividends.

CoJo would have stuck if not for the fact that he was buried behind Parker and Mills and Spurs couldn't afford to pay him and go after LMA.

I know Joseph was drafted with the Spurs, but his game was built in Austin and he is doing quite well in Toronto now.

[DarrinS]

I had no doubt in my mind Simmons could replace Manu as the Spurs future 6th man. He is no manu, but he is as every bit athletic and the one thing he has over young Manu is his size and strength. He rarely gets knocked down going to the rim. I don't expect him to as injured prone as Manu.


Aren't they practically the same size?

[ceperez]

CoJo would have stuck if not for the fact that he was buried behind Parker and Mills and Spurs couldn't afford to pay him and go after LMA.

I know Joseph was drafted with the Spurs, but his game was built in Austin and he is doing quite well in Toronto now.

I look at Cojo as that failed development project and wasted pick that should have gone to Jimmy Butler instead. :-(

[ceperez]

Aren't they practically the same size?

Yes, they are about the same size. However, both listed at 6'6", Manu probably has a higher standing reach.

[I. Hustle]

I look at Cojo as that failed development project and wasted pick that should have gone to Jimmy Butler instead. :-(

Can you imagine Kawhi and Butler drafted together? Damn

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Lot's of knee jerk reactions here after having so many years of disappointment with the likes of James 'Flight' Wight, James Gist, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, etc...

Folks got to realize, it isn't the elite athleticism that impressed me, it's the score in traffic and pass in traffic that sets him apart.

But none of them shot over .400 in the D league. None of them could take a guy off the dribble like Simmons can. I was never impressed with any of the Spurs D-League players. That last player I was impressed with was Gary Neal as far as SL and D league play. Neal is a serviceable NBA bench player. I also like Gee but I wasn't impressed with him. I thought he was just a good fringe player to have coming off the bench.

But I watched pretty much all the SL games and a few of the D-league playoff games last year and Simmons and Eddie were pretty awesome. I was more impressed by Simmons b/c of his Athleticism and ball handles.

Nothing Knee-Jerk about my reaction. Look at the beginning of this thread. My opinion about Simmons hasn't changed one bit from the SL to the Preseason til now.

[ceperez]

Can you imagine Kawhi and Butler drafted together? Damn

Oh... what could have been!

All the pre-draft predictions had Butler in the first round or early 2nd round. CoJo was like late 2nd round. Yet, Spurs picked him up even after they already drafted De Colo in the previous year.

[Splits]

Can you imagine Kawhi and Butler drafted together? Damn

If we would have drafted and developed Butler, there's no way PATFO trades Paul George Hill for Kawhi.

Who would you rather have, Butler or Kawhi?

[ceperez]

If we would have drafted and developed Butler, there's no way PATFO trades Paul George Hill for Kawhi.

Who would you rather have, Butler or Kawhi?

2011 NBA Draft. Kawhi was already picked.

It was a choice of picking up Cojo or Butler. Spurs picked Cojo.

Again... another shitty take by you.

[Splits]

2011 NBA Draft. Kawhi was already picked.

It was a choice of picking up Cojo or Butler. Spurs picked Cojo.

Again... another shitty take by you.

:lmao yeah, because draft picks happen in a vacuum.

RC: "Hey Pop, let's trade our back-up point guard for the 15th pick, this guy is going to be an epic talent"

Pop: "Ok, Buford"

RC: "And then, lets spend our 29th pick on a another small forward with a similar skill set, and not try to replace the backup PG we just traded away"

Pop: "Sounds great, RC. Pull the trigger, Tony can play 48 a night!"


You do realize our PG "depth" at the time was Temple and Chris Quinn, right?

:lmao

[ceperez]

:lmao yeah, because draft picks happen in a vacuum.

RC: "Hey Pop, let's trade our back-up point guard for the 15th pick, this guy is going to be an epic talent"

Pop: "Ok, Buford"

RC: "And then, lets spend our 29th pick on a another small forward with a similar skill set, and not try to replace the backup PG we just traded away"

Pop: "Sounds great, RC. Pull the trigger, Tony can play 48 a night!"


You do realize our PG "depth" at the time was Temple and Chris Quinn, right?

:lmao

Changing the reason why it was such a shitty take?

[Splits]

Changing the reason why it was such a shitty take?

:lmao keep digging and deflecting, bra. Maybe the LOL#you thread will drop off the first page by February

[ceperez]

Another great take about Jonathon Simmons:

http://foxsanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-rookie-jonathon-simmons-nba-dream

[steeledl]

He would make a good wide reciever .

[I. Hustle]

He would make a good wide reciever .

Bend over. I'll make you a good wide receiver.



J/k calm down

[DJR210]

I had no doubt in my mind Simmons could replace Manu as the Spurs future 6th man. He is no manu, but he is as every bit athletic and the one thing he has over young Manu is his size and strength. He rarely gets knocked down going to the rim. I don't expect him to as injured prone as Manu.

He was just thinking too much out there in the Preseason and he wasn't properly closing out on screens on D. And plus he wasn't gauging the speed of help defenders and that led to a lot of his turnovers. The video below would not have happen in the preseason or early season. Simmons has truly adjusted his game to account for the speed of help defenders at an NBA Level

I am a little surprised he has progressed so fast since the preseason. But I am not surprised of the product thus far. Simmons has elite NBA athleticism and he can take almost any defender one-on-one to the hoop. The missing element was his passing off the double teams. I think he has that pretty much down at this point. So much, help defenders are reluctant to leave their guy to guard him at times.

Always thought it funny when some posters here mentioned he should be cut after his preseason performances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSw5tn4tJ6w

Man, it's gotta be fun playing with a guy like Boban

[ceperez]

New highlight play:

https://i.imgflip.com/x9uqk.gif

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

New highlight play:

https://i.imgflip.com/x9uqk.gif

Mills probably told Baynes, "He just sent your shit back down under, mate."

[steeledl]

Dude has shown a little bit of everything. Just a matter of time until he starts putting things together more consistently

[Maddog]

New highlight play:

https://i.imgflip.com/x9uqk.gif


Dude has shown a little bit of everything. Just a matter of time until he starts putting things together more consistently

If you found a NBA fan who had been marooned on a desert island and showed him all the Simmons highlights, he would think he was one of the top players in the league.
He is almost frustrating to watch.. he is so tantalizingly talented, but hasn't put it all together. It's not just the athleticism, but he's got some skill, feel for the game, and doesn't appear to be lazy or a head case.....

[ceperez]

If you found a NBA fan who had been marooned on a desert island and showed him all the Simmons highlights, he would think he was one of the top players in the league.
He is almost frustrating to watch.. he is so tantalizingly talented, but hasn't put it all together. It's not just the athleticism, but he's got some skill, feel for the game, and doesn't appear to be lazy or a head case.....

Simmons is a rookie in a team that is loaded with veterans who have played for over a decade in multiple playoff runs. He isn't expected to have the skills even in his first season.

It would be a travesty though if both Simmons and Boban aren't able to play in the Rookie / Sophomore game.

[bic50]

New highlight play:

https://i.imgflip.com/x9uqk.gif

:wow

[DJR210]

New highlight play:

https://i.imgflip.com/x9uqk.gif

:lmao Baynes

Good riddance

:worthy: Simmons :worthy:

[ceperez]

Some praise from Manu: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/1/13/10756776/manu-ginobili-luck-not-factor-la-nacion-translation


We've also gotten good production from players that surprised us. Jonathon Simmons was sent down to the D-League because he didn't have a good start, was unfamiliar with the team and had a lot of energy but couldn't find the right role. Yet when he got back from Austin he was very useful to us. He gives us something that the rest of us might not have: that freshness, that speed, that quickness. He's also very athletic, a good defender and he's hitting shots when he is open. He's been a pleasant surprise. He's a kid who has hunger, energy and confidence.

Non-believers.... please line up at the confession box.

[ceperez]

Who gave him the nickname "the juice"???

Or is it "bring the juice"?

Or he being part of the Juice Unit.

http://hoopshabit.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-spurs-love-juice-unit/

Appear he himself coined the name "the juice unit". So I guess he's now Jonathon "Bring the Juice" Simmons?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I bet you Simmons was a fan of Shawn Kemp growing up. He does the airplane gesture after almost every dunk like Kemp use to do. Nice pass by Boban at the end of the video to Simmons. It's going to be awesome watching these two play together in the future. You can tell they already has good chemistry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puP61mHRp9o

[picnroll]

Don't think he has a prayer but I think it'd be great to see Simmons in the rookie all star game.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Don't think he has a prayer but I think it'd be great to see Simmons in the rookie all star game.

If Nando can make it, I think Simmons can as well. Not too much competition at the wing to be honest.

[picnroll]

If Nando can make it, I think Simmons can as well. Not too much competition at the wing to be honest.

Maybe, just don't think he's been getting any hype. In a no defense all-star game I think he'd be spectacular.

[Capt Bringdown]

Who gave him the nickname "the juice"???

Or is it "bring the juice"?

Or he being part of the Juice Unit.

http://hoopshabit.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-spurs-love-juice-unit/

Appear he himself coined the name "the juice unit". So I guess he's now Jonathon "Bring the Juice" Simmons?

http://www.cultreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/oj-s-juice-on-the-looseCR.jpg

[ceperez]

Maybe, just don't think he's been getting any hype. In a no defense all-star game I think he'd be spectacular.

Spurs deserve to have 3 players on that Sophomore/Rookie game. Simmons, Boban and Anderson.

[ceperez]

Maybe, just don't think he's been getting any hype. In a no defense all-star game I think he'd be spectacular.

Spurs deserve to have 3 players on that Sophomore/Rookie game. Simmons, Boban and Anderson.

I mean, got to compensate for the 1 player in the all-star game. Talk about a travesty, GSW may have like 3 players on the all-star game and Spurs will only have one.

[picnroll]

Spurs deserve to have 3 players on that Sophomore/Rookie game. Simmons, Boban and Anderson.

I mean, got to compensate for the 1 player in the all-star game. Talk about a travesty, GSW may have like 3 players on the all-star game and Spurs will only have one.
Problem is that the players are selected by assistant coaches and there are a lot of players who get playing time every game while Simmons, Boban, Anderson have had limited, spotty exposure to the coaches. Nevertheless I hope they do, particularly Simmons, he's made for that kind of venue.

[ceperez]

Probably the best game of Jonathon 'The Juice' Simmons as a Spur:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ymGrYM2gM

[TheDoctor]

The Juice, already a better nickname than the stupid "The Klaw".

[bic50]

Probably the best game of Jonathon 'The Juice' Simmons as a Spur:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ymGrYM2gM

:tu

[Spursmania]

The Juice, already a better nickname than the stupid "The Klaw".

I would have preferred the nickname "Magneto" for Kawhi.

[steeledl]

Simmons has shown a great ability to cut and play off the ball. As he continues to play with the team and they get used to his tendencies I see him getting a lot of easy buckets for us as the season goes on. This guy can do a little bit of everything. So excited to have him.

[SAGirl]

Spurs deserve to have 3 players on that Sophomore/Rookie game. Simmons, Boban and Anderson.

I mean, got to compensate for the 1 player in the all-star game. Talk about a travesty, GSW may have like 3 players on the all-star game and Spurs will only have one.

I agree with you. Yet another thing in which the Spurs depth is not good for players statwise. On the one hand, the main guys get rested at lot and are not boosting stats in garbage time, therefore they go underrated in the big scheme of things.

On the other, they do that to also allow young players to develop who are not playing minutes in hotly contested games, which then diminishes the real recognition these newer players deserve. I think the fact Simmons is getting some minutes lately should be recognized, but he came out of nowehere and didn't get minutes until mid december. That is a real small sample. He should get in, but so should Boban and Anderson. I do think at least one of them should make it, probably Simmons as he's the one in the rotation, and like someone mentioned above, he will put on a show.

Would not be surprised if none make it and that would be a travesty. I mean how can you ignore Boban's production? He will also put on a show, and Anderson's passing? Count on all the lobs.... Just put these 3 with two others our there and you will get a show I say.

[DenialTwist]

The Juice, already a better nickname than the stupid "The Klaw".

I have to agree. Whoever told Bill Land to say that? And the NBATV crew especially Dennis Scott keeps using that nickname for Kawhi.
I think it's even more interesting that not only does Simmons already have a nickname but he also has a weird little celebration every time he dunks the ball.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I have to agree. Whoever told Bill Land to say that? And the NBATV crew especially Dennis Scott keeps using that nickname for Kawhi.
I think it's even more interesting that not only does Simmons already have a nickname but he also has a weird little celebration every time he dunks the ball.

That's Shawn Kemp's airplane move. He did that after almost every dunk.

[steeledl]

When will he rookie sophomore game lineups be announced ? Simmons would be a joy to watch in that no defense game.

[steeledl]

Who is better atm ? Simmons or ginobili? Obviously I'd take ginobili for important minutes but Simmons skill level is probably superior at this point.

[dabom]

OMG low IQ posters everywhere I go. :lmao

[steeledl]

OMG low IQ posters everywhere I go. :lmao

most people on here consider you a high iq poster.

[SpursFan86]

Who is better atm ? Simmons or ginobili? Obviously I'd take ginobili for important minutes but Simmons skill level is probably superior at this point.

:lol

I'm high on Simmons and think he could legitimately crack the playoff rotation by the end of the year, but come on. Manu is clearly still better at this point.

[SAGirl]

:lol

I'm high on Simmons and think he could legitimately crack the playoff rotation by the end of the year, but come on. Manu is clearly still better at this point.
^^^^
+ to be fair to both, Simmons lacks the experience the comparison even at this point is not on the same level. A lot of Simmons highlights are in garbage time and when he's in the rotation he plays off other players and is opportunistic with his chances. He's not forcing things like Manu does in the clutch. Not saying I don't eventually see him doing that, but he's not doing it right now so I don't see him on the same level.

[Mnky]

^^^^
+ to be fair to both, Simmons lacks the experience the comparison even at this point is not on the same level. A lot of Simmons highlights are in garbage time and when he's in the rotation he plays off other players and is opportunistic with his chances. He's not forcing things like Manu does in the clutch. Not saying I don't eventually see him doing that, but he's not doing it right now so I don't see him on the same level.

He had a little spark for the spurs against Cleveland. I think Pop pulls young guys quick when they play good against good teams, so they can keep that confidence of knowing they're good enough, before they mess it up. :lol
It seems to be working, because his confidence is sky rocketing compared to early season.

[SAGirl]

He had a little spark for the spurs against Cleveland. I think Pop pulls young guys quick when they play good against good teams, so they can keep that confidence of knowing they're good enough, before they mess it up. :lol
It seems to be working, because his confidence is sky rocketing compared to early season.
Well Anderson played really well against Cleveland too but he has no chance on dethroning anyone in the rotation. Simmons has benefited from Danny sucking... aside from that he has improved, don't want it to seem sour, but there were only a few minutes available anyways this season, they were just widened bc if Danny. At this rate Simmons could be the better player but is Pop really going to eliminate Danny's minutes? I don't see it.

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

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[playbonner15]

Missed the Simmons block. Anyone can post it?

[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

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[LaMarcus Bryant]

Thick Dick Nigga

[ceperez]

Another sacrifice at the altar:

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Simmons is more than likely going to the all-star weekend as part of the Dunk Contest and possibly for the rookie game. I see him and Boban making it. Outside of Towns and Jokic, there is really no good rookie Centers or rookie PF this year out West. And for guards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HechvTHuIL0

He was telling the ref after the play, this is how you hang in the air so long. Most of the best rookie players are out East this year.

[ceperez]

Simmons is more than likely going to the all-star weekend as part of the Dunk Contest and possibly for the rookie game. I see him and Boban making it. Outside of Towns and Jokic, there is really no good rookie Centers or rookie PF this year out West. And for guards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HechvTHuIL0

He was telling the ref after the play, this is how you hang in the air so long. Most of the best rookie players are out East this year.

What is the format this year? Hasn't been East vs West in a while.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What is the format this year? Hasn't been East vs West in a while.

Its rookie vs sophmore (world vs US). Kristap, Okafor and Kaminsky are probably a lock.

Boban more than likely will get selected for Team World. So both Serbian centers should represent this year. Simmons has more of his work cut out for him because only 4 guards are selected. He would be playing for team USA.

There is a lot of competition at the guard position. If Simmons has a big game against GS (around 10+points), I think he makes it.

[ceperez]

Its rookie vs sophmore (world vs US). Kristap, Okafor and Kaminsky are probably a lock.

Boban more than likely will get selected for Team World. So both Serbian centers should represent this year. Simmons has more of his work cut out for him because only 4 guards are selected. He would be playing for team USA.

There is a lot of competition at the guard position. If Simmons has a big game against GS (around 10+points), I think he makes it.

Looking at the Rookie Ladder: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/20/2015-16-rookie-ladder-week-13/

Not exactly fair because you got these rookies stat padding in cellar dweller teams.

Well, Blair made the team once, hope Simmons and Boban get in. Anderson is a long shot though.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Looking at the Rookie Ladder: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/20/2015-16-rookie-ladder-week-13/

Not exactly fair because you got these rookies stat padding in cellar dweller teams.

Well, Blair made the team once, hope Simmons and Boban get in. Anderson is a long shot though.

I still think people remember Boban schooling the crap out of Noel and Okafor a couple months back. Boban is probably the most popular bench player in the NBA right now. Simmons is finally getting recognized. If he has a great game against GS, that significantly boosted his changes. KA probably isn't going to make it because only two swingmen are selected.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25455440/nba-rookie-power-rankings-russell-looking-to-play-with-rondos-edge

[ceperez]

I still think people remember Boban schooling the crap out of Noel and Okafor a couple months back. Boban is probably the most popular bench player in the NBA right now. Simmons is finally getting recognized. If he has a great game against GS, that significantly boosted his changes. KA probably isn't going to make it because only two swingmen are selected.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25455440/nba-rookie-power-rankings-russell-looking-to-play-with-rondos-edge

Here a more comprehensive rookie ranking: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/01/top-rookies-by-position-rankings-first-edition-010116/index.html?ls=nba:specialsfull4

Simmons is listed as SF which he shouldn't be. Simmons is averaging like 7 pts a game in the last month, that should put him at least at #2.

Boban is likely #4 on the center category, which kind of makes his chances slim. You got Towns, Okafor and Jokic ahead of him.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Here a more comprehensive rookie ranking: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/01/top-rookies-by-position-rankings-first-edition-010116/index.html?ls=nba:specialsfull4

Simmons is listed as SF which he shouldn't be. Simmons is averaging like 7 pts a game in the last month, that should put him at least at #2.

Boban is likely #4 on the center category, which kind of makes his chances slim. You got Towns, Okafor and Jokic ahead of him.

Okafor and Towns will play for Team USA. Jokic and Kristap are a lock for team World. That's two slots up. The only sophomore really worthy of a pick is Mirotic. C Jokic and Boban. PF Kristap and Mirotic. Remember team world vs us both teams have rookies and sophomores.

Simmons list at SF is worse as only two SF are selected for the games. He will have to go wild tonight and play big against GS. But he has a shot IMO.

[ceperez]

Okafor and Towns will play for Team USA. Jokic and Kristap are a lock for team World. That's two slots up. The only sophomore really worthy of a pick is Mirotic. C Jokic and Boban. PF Kristap and Mirotic. Remember team world vs us both teams have rookies and sophomores.

Simmons list at SF is worse as only two SF are selected for the games. He will have to go wild tonight and play big against GS. But he has a shot IMO.

It seems like there are 25 players picked but without a 50/50 mix between sophomore and rookies.

So there may be more rookies than last year.

[Seventyniner]

OMG low IQ posters everywhere I go. :lmao

Wherever you go, there you are.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

It seems like there are 25 players picked but without a 50/50 mix between sophomore and rookies.

So there may be more rookies that last year.

More than likely yes, as the Rookie class last year was not that good. Probably Parker is a lock at SF from the Sophmore class. So Johnson (Det), Winslow (Heat) and McDermott (Bulls) are pretty much his only competition this year. Simmons PER smokes all these guys. Like I said, if he goes off tonight and have a 10+point game against GS, he will more than likely get the nod.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

It seems like there are 25 players picked but without a 50/50 mix between sophomore and rookies.

So there may be more rookies than last year.

Only six rookies are required to be picked, 3 for each team. Same for Sophomores. This rookie class is way better than last year. I expect to actually see more rookies than SO selected this year.

[SAGirl]

Its rookie vs sophmore (world vs US). Kristap, Okafor and Kaminsky are probably a lock.

Boban more than likely will get selected for Team World. So both Serbian centers should represent this year. Simmons has more of his work cut out for him because only 4 guards are selected. He would be playing for team USA.

There is a lot of competition at the guard position. If Simmons has a big game against GS (around 10+points), I think he makes it.
Yea, that is the thing, that there are only 4 guard spots and the selection includes sophomores too. Guys like Lavine and Jordan Clarkson are still elegible to go. Then you have guys like Devin Booker putting up +20 PP lately for a devastated and tanking Suns team. I think he has a chance though, he's putting highlights nightly, and would shine in a no defense game like that, but I tend to think Boban has a better chance.

[SAGirl]

More than likely yes, as the Rookie class last year was not that good. Probably Parker is a lock at SF from the Sophmore class. So Johnson (Det), Winslow (Heat) and McDermott (Bulls) are pretty much his only competition this year. Simmons PER smokes all these guys. Like I said, if he goes off tonight and have a 10+point game against GS, he will more than likely get the nod.
You are forgetting Wiggins... but he's played as a SG a lot this season is my understanding with Wolves playing T.Prince so much next to him...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Wherever you go, there you are.

Lulz

[steeledl]

If it was rookie vs sophomore Simmons would make it. Forgot they changed it. Lame

[steeledl]

Don't want him to compete in dunk contest. It's lame now and for scrubs tbh. My nigga ain't a scrub.

[ceperez]

Another highlight play, this time dunking against 3 Golden State Warriors:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqCFSm72FSc

[KenziE]

I bet they didnt show that on BSPN

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Simmons is a one trick pony. His only desire it to get to the rim and score. If and when he realizes he needs to drop when he draws the second defender or penetrate and kick then his game may flourish.

[gambit1990]

big fan of simmons. he needs some minutes. dude is doing stuff like this... as a rookie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HechvTHuIL0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmfzsiQPaI0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpGBYzoc8VE

it'd be great if he was in the rookie/sophomore game.

[ceperez]

Another tribute:

https://giant.gfycat.com/InconsequentialSlightHen.gif

this time rejecting the king!

[ParadoxEN]

Best guard on the team, IMO

[skulls138]

Simmons is a one trick pony. His only desire it to get to the rim and score. If and when he realizes he needs to drop when he draws the second defender or penetrate and kick then his game may flourish.Good God man, be happy with what we got!

[tim_duncan_fan]

He needs more burn and to be more aggressive when he does manage to get in the court.

[Kawhitstorm]

He needs more burn and to be more aggressive when he does manage to get in the court.

Most likely will get Patty's minutes if that midget keeps stinking it up.:bang

[r0drig0lac]

Best guard on the team, IMO

[gambit1990]

with manu being out so long, at least we'll see more of j simms.

[Spurs9]

with manu being out so long, at least we'll see more of j simms.

Thats the silver lining. Get as much reps in as possible and have him ready for when Manu returns.

[bic50]

Simmons has been a pleasant surprise

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/641646916623687680/Wp3Ny2gL_bigger.jpg Devin Booker Verified account ‏@DevinBook (https://twitter.com/DevinBook)

Major respect
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cagd7HJUsAAmCSw.jpg

[TheDoctor]

Monster block on Parsons:
695825193978216448

[SAGirl]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/641646916623687680/Wp3Ny2gL_bigger.jpg Devin Booker Verified account ‏@DevinBook (https://twitter.com/DevinBook)

Major respect
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cagd7HJUsAAmCSw.jpg
You have to respect his work ethic. Dude worked all the way from the bottom to get to where he is...
Really major respect.
:worthy:

[gambit1990]

really like what i saw from him last night. he's quick, can stop on a dime and change direction. he's determined when he drives to the basket, explosive when he gets there. and can pass.
what i had to say about him in july. i don't even get hyped for d league players.

[r0drig0lac]

Devin Booker for the Spurs in the future = confirmed

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmopEELDl9o

[J_Paco]

Needs to add muscle and a outside game, but off of pure athleticism he is a NBA caliber player. Needs to continue to improve on both ends of the court. He'll like be the first batter up to "replace" Manu next season, but for now he's a solid prospect. Can't believe he was stuck in the D - League for two whole seasons, ridiculous.

[ChumpDumper]

Needs to add muscle and a outside game, but off of pure athleticism he is a NBA caliber player. Needs to continue to improve on both ends of the court. He'll like be the first batter up to "replace" Manu next season, but for now he's a solid prospect. Can't believe he was stuck in the D - League for two whole seasons, ridiculous.
He had to develop in the development league.

[lilbthebasedgod]

Needs to work on his handles and holding onto the ball. He loses the ball way too much.

[cjw]

Develop an outside game? He's hit 13 of 30 from deep. Sample size isn't big enough, but it's a positive trend.

[T Park]

If the guy could dribble he'd be pretty damn good.

[J_Paco]

He had to develop in the development league.

Good point, Chump. But, he definitely had/has the raw talent to hang in the NBA and I'm somewhat shocked that no one saw it sooner. Was he that much more of a raw prospect coming out of Houston or was it the lack of high end competition that held him back?

[J_Paco]

Develop an outside game? He's hit 13 of 30 from deep. Sample size isn't big enough, but it's a positive trend.

Exactly, right now he is just very selective when shooting from out which doesn't make it a strength. Needs to become a reliable outside shooter, "improve his handles" (this is the least likely) and add more strength to his solid frame. I love his hustle and athleticism, though....

[ace3g]

I've said it before (mostly because they both wore #17 with the Spurs) but any time I see Simmons, he reminds me of Mario Elie.

[T Park]

I've said it before (mostly because they both wore #17 with the Spurs) but any time I see Simmons, he reminds me of Mario Elie.

Mario was never as athletic as Simmons. Mario however was very smart. Even in his younger days with Portland and Golden State he was a damn smart player.

The player I compare him to who's game he reminds me of is Stephen Jackson. Athletic. wild. can drive to the basket consistently, and have decent outside shots.

Given time he could become the next Jackson. his shot form though is just ugly.

[Agloco]

No one mentioned the two offensive fouls he drew vs DAL. Seems like his positioning is betting better although he still needs to stop gambling so much and picking up cheap fouls. Only more game experience will fix that.

[cjw]

Exactly, right now he is just very selective when shooting from out which doesn't make it a strength. Needs to become a reliable outside shooter, "improve his handles" (this is the least likely) and add more strength to his solid frame. I love his hustle and athleticism, though....

Yeah, what I was saying is his shot isn't broken - just needs to become something he can turn to more reliably. Imagine having a fourth green light outside shooter to pair with Green/Leonard/Mills.

[SAGirl]

No one mentioned the two offensive fouls he drew vs DAL. Seems like his positioning is betting better although he still needs to stop gambling so much and picking up cheap fouls. Only more game experience will fix that.
He's been awesome in paint help. covered up for boban as much as anyone could tonight. He's so athletic that he can get in position outside the circle quickly. Covers a lot of ground with his jumps. didn't draw charges tonight, but he covered for Boban a lot.

[spursistan]

696795490776539136

David West working as mentor to Simms :toast..I have been saying, ring or not, Pop might opt to keep West (over Boban ) in off season just for his leadership attributes..And that might be more urgent if Timmy/Manu vacate our locker room..Kawhi/LMA aren't there yet in that department and Tony is not exactly that distinguished....

[SAGirl]

Completely agree with D west. Needs to be resigned!

[apalisoc_9]

696795490776539136

David West working as mentor to Simms :toast..I have been saying, ring or not, Pop might opt to keep West (over Boban ) in off season just for his leadership attributes..And that might be more urgent if Timmy/Manu vacate our locker room..Kawhi/LMA aren't there yet in that department and Tony is not exactly that distinguished....

Aldrige is in his 30s..hes never going to be there. My 5 year old niece speaks better than him.

[steeledl]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14712189/jonathon-simmons-impossible-nba-dream-coming-true-san-antonio-spurs

found on Reddit. Most of us know his story but ESPN now picking it up.

[ceperez]

More props for Jonathon Simmons:

http://www.businessinsider.com/jonathon-simmons-spurs-next-hidden-gem-2016-2


In the absence of Manu Ginobili (out with an injury), Simmons has stepped up, averaging 23 minutes per game, nine points, two rebounds, and two assists over the last three games. Additionally, he's formed himself into a sniper from beyond the arc, hitting 42% of his attempts from three this season, third best on the Spurs. As a result, when Simmons is on the floor, the Spurs' offensive rating jumps up three points and their effective field goal percentage rises from 53.6% to 56.4%.

[dbestpro]

Danny Green will be traded in the off season to make room for Simmons. Hopefully, for a promising PG of the future.

[bic50]

Always liked simmons. Spurs found themselves another gem.

[SAGirl]

Danny Green will be traded in the off season to make room for Simmons. Hopefully, for a promising PG of the future.
I love Simmons but no to this!!!!!! And besides there is no need bc Manu is soon to retire anyways. By th time Simmons needs to be reupped we vey likely don't have Manu anyways, so no.

[ChumpDumper]

Danny Green will be traded in the off season to make room for Simmons. Hopefully, for a promising PG of the future.No chance in hell.

[J_Paco]

Danny Green will be traded in the off season to make room for Simmons. Hopefully, for a promising PG of the future.

No way is this happening. If anything the team will be too busy trying to find a somewhat suitable replacement for the greatest player in franchise history.

[DJR210]

Danny Green ain't going anywhere short of slapping Pop.. he's bargain priced

[TheDoctor]

Danny Green will be traded in the off season to make room for Simmons. Hopefully, for a promising PG of the future.

4/10

[ace3g]

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Earl Watson was on Spurs' D-League staff in Austin. Said he recognized Jonathon Simmons' potential quickly ...


Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Watson said he told the Spurs if Simmons spent another season in the D-League, "he would have been MVP of the league."

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/629044192350572544/M72Iic4P_bigger.png Jeff McDonald Verified account ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)

On the fall and rise of Spurs' Jonathon Simmons, aka 'The greatest story in basketball’ http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/The-greatest-story-in-basketball-could-be-6857197.php?t=95cf8fc217927fc3fb&cmpid=twitter-premium … (https://t.co/rg2STTrLJB) via @mySA (https://twitter.com/mySA)

[SpursforSix]

696795490776539136

David West working as mentor to Simms :toast..I have been saying, ring or not, Pop might opt to keep West (over Boban ) in off season just for his leadership attributes..And that might be more urgent if Timmy/Manu vacate our locker room..Kawhi/LMA aren't there yet in that department and Tony is not exactly that distinguished....

I'd like to see West stay. And for him to get a little bump

[dabom]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/629044192350572544/M72Iic4P_bigger.png Jeff McDonald Verified account ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)

On the fall and rise of Spurs' Jonathon Simmons, aka 'The greatest story in basketball’ http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/The-greatest-story-in-basketball-could-be-6857197.php?t=95cf8fc217927fc3fb&cmpid=twitter-premium … (https://t.co/rg2STTrLJB) via @mySA (https://twitter.com/mySA)


Feel good story. :toast

[KenziE]

I hope Jsimms stays longer than his 2 year contract now ala GaryNeal

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRUYTE5DPEU

[sasaint]

I hope Jsimms stays longer than his 2 year contract now ala GaryNeal

I expect Simmons to become part of the Spurs TNG. And Kyle, too, to go along with Kawhi and LMA.

[BillMc]

696795490776539136

David West working as mentor to Simms :toast..I have been saying, ring or not, Pop might opt to keep West (over Boban ) in off season just for his leadership attributes..And that might be more urgent if Timmy/Manu vacate our locker room..Kawhi/LMA aren't there yet in that department and Tony is not exactly that distinguished....

The way he says "definitely" seems like he's been talking to Tony too. :)

[BillMc]

If anything the team will be too busy trying to find a somewhat suitable replacement for the greatest player in franchise history.

Yeah, it will be sad to see Bonner go.

[raybies]

704722396805271552

[BatManu20]

Sorry Jon-boy

710512152830808065

[ceperez]

Sorry Jon-boy

710512152830808065

Well, hope to seem some highlight reels in D-league.

[SAGirl]

Sorry Jon-boy

710512152830808065
Not surprising. He really needs to play to keep that conditioning and stamina up in case he's needed and he needs to work on his ballhandling and shooting. He wasn't going to get better in the bench and its clear that once K.Martin was signed he was going to be the 14th man in the roster and always in coat behind the bench, not even playing garbage time.

It's clear he was retained for next season. Keep Pounding on that Rock Johnny! Hopefully this time serves him well. :flag:

[SAGirl]

Simmons with a poor showing at Austin last night http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160317/rgvaus/
4-13 shooting, 1-4 from 3, 2 assists, 6 TO :wow in 32 minutes. He had 2 of his shots blocked, but shot 6-8 on FT. 15 points, 5 fouls!
He was apparently assigned to the SF spot, but I didn't watch the game and positions can change through the game. I was going to watch some of it but considering he played so poorly and the lost, I will pass.

They play again tonight.

[ceperez]

Simmons with a poor showing at Austin last night http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160317/rgvaus/
4-13 shooting, 1-4 from 3, 2 assists, 6 TO :wow in 32 minutes. He had 2 of his shots blocked, but shot 6-8 on FT. 15 points, 5 fouls!
He was apparently assigned to the SF spot, but I didn't watch the game and positions can change through the game. I was going to watch some of it but considering he played so poorly and the lost, I will pass.

They play again tonight.

Sigh... needs to work on his skills.

[Ice009]

Man, that article around the all-star weekend about him making it seems really premature right about now. He's probably dangerously close to being cut. If we needed another roster spot right now, I think he'd be cut.

What turned me off was an article I read about his view towards defense. He wasn't playing great defense at all, but he was acting like he was a good defender and saying that great defense is all about effort. He has no clue what great defense is all about if he thinks it's just about effort and nothing else. He's also far from a great defender at the NBA level. Might be OK in the D-League, but not in the NBA. He has a lot to learn.

[SAGirl]

Man, that article around the all-star weekend about him making it seems really premature right about now. He's probably dangerously close to being cut. If we needed another roster spot right now, I think he'd be cut.

What turned me off was an article I read about his view towards defense. He wasn't playing great defense at all, but he was acting like he was a good defender and saying that great defense is all about effort. He has no clue what great defense is all about if he thinks it's just about effort and nothing else. He's also far from a great defender at the NBA level. Might be OK in the D-League, but not in the NBA. He has a lot to learn.

You are not far off since his second year is not guaranteed I believe. I am not sure when his second yr option must be picked up, but he might have to make the team again like Reggie Williams.

He really must show improvement to stick around at this point, but I think they are giving him this chance bc Pop has a possible role in mind for him playing next to Slowmo in the bench next season. He needs to clean up his game from the mistakes though.

Like you, I soured a little on him a little bc despite his effort level always being dialed up to 120%, he seemed clueless often.

He cleaned up his game the past couple of games he had in the NBA, b4 Rasual was cut. He wasn't impactful but I think Pop preferred to see him play a more solid mistake free game even if he didn't score, so he played it safe and under control. I really believe that if he had shown up those last couple of games with the same TO and wild play, fouling and getting faked out of plays etc., he would have been cut instead of Rasual, so I also agree with you that he was this close ---->_<----.

[DenialTwist]

Man, that article around the all-star weekend about him making it seems really premature right about now. He's probably dangerously close to being cut. If we needed another roster spot right now, I think he'd be cut.

What turned me off was an article I read about his view towards defense. He wasn't playing great defense at all, but he was acting like he was a good defender and saying that great defense is all about effort. He has no clue what great defense is all about if he thinks it's just about effort and nothing else. He's also far from a great defender at the NBA level. Might be OK in the D-League, but not in the NBA. He has a lot to learn.

This is how most fans think defense is about. It's not just effort, you have to understand defensive schemes and gauge how to position yourself on the court. Players like Harden, just ball watch in addition to giving no effort. You're right about Simmons' view on defense, it's more than just intensity and effort. He is a decent defender and has a lot of room to improve. Oh and Rule #1, never trash talk the opposing team's star player i.e. Curry.

[bic50]

He looked so promising for a while there. Now he's falling off. Hope he can get back on track again.

[ceperez]

Honestly, this demotion back into D-league is hurting his confidence.

[exstatic]

If he can't handle this, he'll never be a Spur. He needs to man up, and do what Kyle did last year when he got sent down: DOMINATE.

Kyle's d-league numbers:

26 games - 21.3p 8.7r 4.8a 2.0st 1.5bl

[Ice009]

This is how most fans think defense is about. It's not just effort, you have to understand defensive schemes and gauge how to position yourself on the court. Players like Harden, just ball watch in addition to giving no effort. You're right about Simmons' view on defense, it's more than just intensity and effort. He is a decent defender and has a lot of room to improve. Oh and Rule #1, never trash talk the opposing team's star player i.e. Curry.

It's just in that article I read, he seemed the think that all it takes to play good defense is putting in effort. I thought it was a stupid take, and if that is truly what he thought, then that explains why his defense was all over the place. You've got to learn positioning, footwork, defensive schemes, your opponent's offensive tendencies, their team's offensive schemes and how they play to be a great defender. It's not about just showing up, putting in some effort and chasing someone around. It takes extreme effort as well as all that other stuff to be a great defender.

I think he thought that his athleticism combined with some effort is all it was going to take to be a good defender at the NBA level.

[Chinook]

I think he'll be on the team next year unless there's a surprise rookie. I can't see him not going back to the summer league, though. Hopefully he understands why he fell out of the rotation (and it's not because of Martin and Miller) and works on getting better rather than just being butt-hurt. He was WAAAYY overhyped (and some folks still think he's better than Anderson), but on a minimum contract and in a year where the Spurs may need to find as many min guys as possible, he has value to the organization.

[ceperez]

I think he'll be on the team next year unless there's a surprise rookie. I can't see him not going back to the summer league, though. Hopefully he understands why he fell out of the rotation (and it's not because of Martin and Miller) and works on getting better rather than just being butt-hurt. He was WAAAYY overhyped (and some folks still think he's better than Anderson), but on a minimum contract and in a year where the Spurs may need to find as many min guys as possible, he has value to the organization.

He's good but not as experience as Martin or Miller. So I disagree here, he's out of the rotation because he can't protect the ball as well as more experience veterans. Besides, he is still a rookie. Since when does Pop gamble on rookies in the playoffs?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The fact he wasn't cut but Butler was, who was more likely to help in the playoffs if needed, says it's his roster spot for next season to lose.

[Mel_13]

He's good but not as experience as Martin or Miller. So I disagree here, he's out of the rotation because he can't protect the ball as well as more experience veterans. Besides, he is still a rookie. Since when does Pop gamble on rookies in the playoffs?

You clearly have access to the internet. The answer to your question is readily available.

[Silver&Black]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38m_2O4L_5Y

[sasaint]

I think he'll be on the team next year unless there's a surprise rookie. I can't see him not going back to the summer league, though. Hopefully he understands why he fell out of the rotation (and it's not because of Martin and Miller) and works on getting better rather than just being butt-hurt. He was WAAAYY overhyped (and some folks still think he's better than Anderson), but on a minimum contract and in a year where the Spurs may need to find as many min guys as possible, he has value to the organization.

Actually Martin and Miller owe their presence here to Simmons. He was playing himself out of the rotation before we brought in KMart and Andre. They did not push him to Austin.

[ceperez]

Actually Martin and Miller owe their presence here to Simmons. He was playing himself out of the rotation before we brought in KMart and Andre. They did not push him to Austin.

well, he's now back from Austin. I want to see Pop throw all sorts of defenders on Curry to see what sticks.

[timtonymanu]

:lol people that said this scrub is better than Fathead

[spursistan]

:lol people that said this scrub is better than Fathead
Yep..Anderson has been even better than Diaw for the better of last 3 months :lol..his upward trajectory seems to be far more stable and gradual unlike the purple patch JS hit in December for couple of weeks and faded after which..Fat Head is younger, more verstaile and has higher BB IQ..I admit i was wrong when i was open to trading him for MCW-

Anyway, Simmons should feel extremely lucky he wasn't cut in favor of Butler..he is really pushing against that tide rather more than basking in those premature "Mission accomplished" stories the media cobbled together about him making to the biggest stage..

[spursistan]

Even by scrap heap standards, Simmons is little bit behind curve..Danny Green established himself in Spurs rotation by age 24-- at Simmons age, he was burying the Heat under hail of 3pts in an NBA Finals (!)..Gary Neal was playing major minutes at start of 2010-2011 season (21.1) and was pulling a weight with upper echelon teams in Europe the seasons before..

JS will be 27 yo at the start of next without having an clear niche in the team yet..He is going to be fighting for that roster spot in camp and and early in the season..I'm little pessimistic he is going to make it to the end..

[Silver&Black]

:lol people that said this scrub is better than Fathead

FatHead > Simmons >>>>>>>>>> Bonner

[sasaint]

Even by scrap heap standards, Simmons is little bit behind curve..Danny Green established himself in Spurs rotation by age 24-- at Simmons age, he was burying the Heat under hail of 3pts in an NBA Finals (!)..Gary Neal was playing major minutes at start of 2010-2011 season (21.1) and was pulling a weight with upper echelon teams in Europe the seasons before..

JS will be 27 yo at the start of next without having an clear niche in the team yet..He is going to be fighting for that roster spot in camp and and early in the season..I'm little pessimistic he is going to make it to the end..

There are a lot of factors mitigating in his favor. We may be losing several of the old guard. If so, his experience with our system will be a factor in his favor. Whether PATFO has any interest in KMart beyond this season is also a factor. Plus, if we did pursue an expensive free agent, his very cheap contract will help him. SL, being what it is, may not help him much, but another training camp with the mother ship will be big. The Jury is definitely still out, but even if he drops to the end of the bench, he may stay.

[ceperez]

There are a lot of factors mitigating in his favor. We may be losing several of the old guard. If so, his experience with our system will be a factor in his favor. Whether PATFO has any interest in KMart beyond this season is also a factor. Plus, if we did pursue an expensive free agent, his very cheap contract will help him. SL, being what it is, may not help him much, but another training camp with the mother ship will be big. The Jury is definitely still out, but even if he drops to the end of the bench, he may stay.

I seriously doubt that Spurs will not pick up the $840k team option for Simmons. Spurs are already at $84m without resigning Bonner, Boban, Miller and Martin. I seriously doubt Spurs have the money to retain Martin unless at least Manu or Duncan retires.

Spurs also have potential rookies coming in next year: Bertrans, LJC and Lalanne.

[sasaint]

I seriously doubt that Spurs will not pick up the $840k team option for Simmons. Spurs are already at $84m without resigning Bonner, Boban, Miller and Martin. I seriously doubt Spurs have the money to retain Martin unless at least Manu or Duncan retires.

Spurs also have potential rookies coming in next year: Bertrans, LJC and Lalanne.

Simmons is returning, and I expect him to become a rotation player.

I expect Duncan and especially Manu to retire. The team talked Manu into returning. We won't next season. I think Diaw may be gone. The elephant in the room is Tony. Unless he plays to the level of the last game pretty consistently, he is not worth $14MM, and I doubt PATFO will pay him that.

Bertans is the only guy who I see having a realistic shot. Lalanne is still very raw and making the transition to a stretch 4. I don't see LJC ever making it to the NBA.

[tholdren]

I expect Duncan and especially Manu to retire. The team talked Manu into returning. We won't next season. I think Diaw may be gone. The elephant in the room is Tony. Unless he plays to the level of the last game pretty consistently, he is not worth $14MM, and I doubt PATFO will pay him that.
They won't release parker

[sasaint]

They won't release parker

He has to develop better court vision and a pass-first game to be worth $14MM.

[tholdren]

He has to develop better court vision and a pass-first game to be worth $14MM.
not saying he's worth 14m - but if bonner doesn't get dropped for loyalty reasons, no way parker is getting moved.

[sasaint]

not saying he's worth 14m - but if bonner doesn't get dropped for loyalty reasons, no way parker is getting moved.

Bonner doesn't make 14MM, and he is the 15th man!

[tholdren]

Bonner doesn't make 14MM.

He makes 1.4. That's equally as ridiculous

[sasaint]

He makes 1.4. That's equally as ridiculous

No. That is 10% of Tony's cap hit.

[tholdren]

No. That is 10% of Tony's cap hit.
paying 1.4 for doing absolutely nothing is as useless as paying 14 for tony.

[sasaint]

paying 1.4 for doing absolutely nothing is as useless as paying 14 for tony.

No. $14MM is ten times the cap hit.

[Obstructed_View]

well, he's now back from Austin. I want to see Pop throw all sorts of defenders on Curry to see what sticks.

Simmons' defense has been for shit, which is the main reason he lost his spot in the rotation. Then his confidence followed.

[BatManu20]

711576009301032960

[benefactor]

Should have cut his ass and kept Butler tbh.

[wildbill2u]

These guys (boban and Simmons) need minutes to work on their game which they aren't likely to get going down the stretch. D-league seems like a good move right now..

[SAGirl]

The 3 games he's played there recently they have lost, which is not a good sign.
This past game they had him at the SG spot (past couple of games he was at SF).
Shot 4-12, 1-3 on 3s, 2 assists, 5 TO, 4 PF. Only 12 points. http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160320/BAKAUS/
I had seen several games from him last season like this (or worse on # of TO). He was a -24. The team in general shot only 9 threes and the single make was from him, so loosing was a team wide scoring problem. They had only 4 assists and 19 TO.

Considering his low contract he makes sense to retain, but I was moderate on him even during his hype simply bc I had seen many games like this and his ballhandling was very poor under pressure. Bc he's an older prospect and was never the best player in those Austin teams he played at I was skeptical he could be everything ppl thought or wanted him to be. His progress remains to be seen. A bad shooting slump could happen to anyone at any time, but the TO and fouling are a problem.

[ceperez]

Simmons is returning, and I expect him to become a rotation player.

I expect Duncan and especially Manu to retire. The team talked Manu into returning. We won't next season. I think Diaw may be gone. The elephant in the room is Tony. Unless he plays to the level of the last game pretty consistently, he is not worth $14MM, and I doubt PATFO will pay him that.

Bertans is the only guy who I see having a realistic shot. Lalanne is still very raw and making the transition to a stretch 4. I don't see LJC ever making it to the NBA.

Diaw gone after what he did against GSW? I think not. One should never doubt Diaw.

[sasaint]

Diaw gone after what he did against GSW? I think not. One should never doubt Diaw.

One game, my friend. He is not even a 50/50 player - not even one game on, one game off. We need guys who are going to show up with much greater consistency. I really like his skill set and have since he entered the league. But even considering his age, he does not play up to his capability often enough or reliably enough. Going forward, I don't think Boris is a luxury we can afford.

[ChumpDumper]

One game, my friend. He is not even a 50/50 player - not even one game on, one game off. We need guys who are going to show up with much greater consistency. I really like his skill set and have since he entered the league. But even considering his age, he does not play up to his capability often enough or reliably enough. Going forward, I don't think Boris is a luxury we can afford.Spurs are 59-10 with Boris going at whatever percent and always there to handle the ball, pass it and/or post up teams like Golden State in big games.

Who the hell are you going to get to replace him?

[sasaint]

The 3 games he's played there recently they have lost, which is not a good sign.
This past game they had him at the SG spot (past couple of games he was at SF).
Shot 4-12, 1-3 on 3s, 2 assists, 5 TO, 4 PF. Only 12 points. http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160320/BAKAUS/
I had seen several games from him last season like this (or worse on # of TO). He was a -24. The team in general shot only 9 threes and the single make was from him, so loosing was a team wide scoring problem. They had only 4 assists and 19 TO.

Considering his low contract he makes sense to retain, but I was moderate on him even during his hype simply bc I had seen many games like this and his ballhandling was very poor under pressure. Bc he's an older prospect and was never the best player in those Austin teams he played at I was skeptical he could be everything ppl thought or wanted him to be. His progress remains to be seen. A bad shooting slump could happen to anyone at any time, but the TO and fouling are a problem.

I hadn't checked the Austin stats in a few weeks, so thanks for the update on Simmons. Very disappointing numbers - as you said, especially with the TO and PFs. As you know, I have expected him to become a part of the Spurs TNG, but if he is stinking up the D-League, consistently committing the same errors, then low contract or not, he may be playing himself off the team and possibly out of the league. I am still pulling for him, but he must turn it around.

[ceperez]

One game, my friend. He is not even a 50/50 player - not even one game on, one game off. We need guys who are going to show up with much greater consistency. I really like his skill set and have since he entered the league. But even considering his age, he does not play up to his capability often enough or reliably enough. Going forward, I don't think Boris is a luxury we can afford.

Sorry, I complete disagree. He's the 2nd best player on the team (when it counts). I don't think you'll find any other player in the league with his unique skill set.

Yes, he does coast a lot, but that's who he is.

[ceperez]

The 3 games he's played there recently they have lost, which is not a good sign.
This past game they had him at the SG spot (past couple of games he was at SF).
Shot 4-12, 1-3 on 3s, 2 assists, 5 TO, 4 PF. Only 12 points. http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160320/BAKAUS/
I had seen several games from him last season like this (or worse on # of TO). He was a -24. The team in general shot only 9 threes and the single make was from him, so loosing was a team wide scoring problem. They had only 4 assists and 19 TO.

Considering his low contract he makes sense to retain, but I was moderate on him even during his hype simply bc I had seen many games like this and his ballhandling was very poor under pressure. Bc he's an older prospect and was never the best player in those Austin teams he played at I was skeptical he could be everything ppl thought or wanted him to be. His progress remains to be seen. A bad shooting slump could happen to anyone at any time, but the TO and fouling are a problem.

Simmons isn't playing well at all recently. Might as well call it a season and see what he can bring together next season.

Unfortunate since I was hoping that he would be able to contribute in the post-season.

[sasaint]

Spurs are 59-10 with Boris going at whatever percent and always there to handle the ball, pass it and/or post up teams like Golden State in big games.

Who the hell are you going to get to replace him?

We will not get anybody to replace him in the sense of replicating his skill set. But the money might be better spent on a player who will show up more consistently. We may have at least two pairs of very big sneakers to fill next season.

[ChumpDumper]

We will not get anybody to replace him in the sense of replicating his skill set. But the money might be better spent on a player who will show up more consistently. We may have at least two pairs of very big sneakers to fill next season.Might be?

If they will be big shoes to fill, why not keep the guy who is currently filling those shoes and is under contract for less money next season?

[TrainOfThought5]

Spurs are 59-10 with Boris going at whatever percent and always there to handle the ball, pass it and/or post up teams like Golden State in big games.

Who the hell are you going to get to replace him?

Outside of Kawhi and LMA, playoff Boris might be the most irreplaceable player on the roster.

[sasaint]

Might be?

If they will be big shoes to fill, why not keep the guy who is currently filling those shoes and is under contract for less money next season?

Because I think we need full time performers.

[SAGirl]

We will not get anybody to replace him in the sense of replicating his skill set. But the money might be better spent on a player who will show up more consistently. We may have at least two pairs of very big sneakers to fill next season.
I see your point and I find myself very ambivalent on Boris. He's a terrific player, but his coasting and inconsistency will be a problem if Manu retires and we have youngsters in our bench like Anderson, and probably a mix of either Simmons (if he cleans up his game), Bertans, or a rookie guard. They might even bring an international player at the guard spot. Either way, It projects like too much inexperience or unproven players and you can't expect developing players to be consistent until they arrive like Kawhi did. Even young Kiwi was inconsistent.

So I see your point, a youngster and developing bench cannot afford to carry a coasting Boris. Spurs will have to evaluate the situation and I think his known tendencies precisely made the last season on his contract partially unguaranteed. We will need a consistent veteran presence in the bench.

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, Anderson is the logical successor to Boris. No reason to break up that progression at this point -- especially with Diaw's descending and increasingly less guaranteed contract in the years to come. Way too favorable for PATFO to just throw away.

[jjktkk]

Because I think we need full time performers.

If you're knit picking bout Diaw not being 'consistant' enough on a nightly basis, and cannot understand Diaw's importance to the Spurs, there's not much hope for you.

[sasaint]

If you're knit picking bout Diaw not being 'consistant' enough on a nightly basis, and cannot understand Diaw's importance to the Spurs, there's not much hope for you.

I think you are underestimating the importance of having a bunch of hustling players on the floor and to model the right kind of work ethic once Tim and Manu depart. But I do believe there is hope for you.

[SAGirl]

Eh, Anderson is the logical successor to Boris. No reason to break up that progression at this point -- especially with Diaw's descending and increasingly less guaranteed contract in the years to come. Way too favorable for PATFO to just throw away.


I think you are underestimating the importance of having a bunch of hustling players on the floor and to model the right kind of work ethic once Tim and Manu depart. But I do believe there is hope for you.
Frankly tonight was the kind of game from Boris that has been more the normal for him all season, except he's looked lazier and worse most of the season. Here he mostly just missed shots. We'll need a better guard than we have bc frankly when Manu has a bad game our bench can't make it. And Anderson has been the better player and prospect of him and Simmons, meaning if Anderson isn't ready, Simmons is not going to save our bench.... see the recent games he's had in the dleague.

I think Boris' salary could be used to acquire said guard. However, knowing Pop's loyalty, we likely stay with Boris.

[Kawhitstorm]

Juice can play against scrubby wings who just stand around on offense & are mediocre defenders aka OKC's backup wings (Waiters/Foye/Singler). With Kanter being the last line of defense:lol, he should be able to feast against OKC's 2nd unit since he can blow by them at will.

[MultiTroll]

tf? ^^
Simmons looked fine against OKCs starters tonight too.
He and Anderson had some good exchanges.
What are they supposed to when Pop inserts Bonner for large stretches. 4 on 5 :depressed

[Kawhitstorm]

What are they supposed to when Pop inserts Bonner for large stretches. 4 on 5 :depressed

West/Diaw are going to be the backup when LMA/Tim are in the lineup & they both had their way when they wanted to score.:toast

K-Mart plays best w/ Manu & he just had a couple of shots rim out on him otherwise he was able to get his shot off clean shots unlike Danny.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

OPkWYTUiPTo

[DenialTwist]

Simmons deserves more playing time.

[SAGirl]

tf? ^^
Simmons looked fine against OKCs starters tonight too.
He and Anderson had some good exchanges.
What are they supposed to when Pop inserts Bonner for large stretches. 4 on 5 :depressed
I really really like them together. I though our team looked the best with the two of them and Dwest. Everyone else was trashy and when Pop split them up the combinations he put out there didn't work that well. They have good chemistry and compliment each other's games IMO. Obviously if Anderson were to improve and get more comfortable in that post game and shot next season, they could have an interesting two man game going.

[Ocotillo]

I really really like them together. I though our team looked the best with the two of them and Dwest. Everyone else was trashy and when Pop split them up the combinations he put out there didn't work that well. They have good chemistry and compliment each other's games IMO. Obviously if Anderson were to improve and get more comfortable in that post game and shot next season, they could have an interesting two man game going.

I am really liking what I see of those two when the play together. Bill Land kept mentioning that Simmons had been sick. Clearly he is a back up but Kyle has some chemistry which I guess they developed from Summer League and camp.

[TheGreatYacht]

One of the very, very, very few bright spots from yesterday. Was easily our best wing.

I just wish he dunked with authority like he did in the Summer League, his two handed dunks get blocked too easily.... Pretty sure it was Pop whose at fault.

:pop: "Get over yourself, do you think you're Jordan or something?"

[SAGirl]

I have to drop this here, although it could also go in Anderson's church. The pass from Anderson is nice bc he fakes the pass to Martin to get the defenders one direction then goes to J.Simms for the Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't this something nice to look forward to from these two?
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[MultiTroll]

No tv.
Was Simmons in uniform for the game?

Is the coaches red haired husband really going to f Simmons out of a playoff spot?

[exstatic]

No tv.
Was Simmons in uniform for the game?

Is the coaches red haired husband really going to f Simmons out of a playoff spot?

No.

There are no playoff "spots". You can change your roster game to game, depending on matchups.

[MultiTroll]

No.

There are no playoff "spots". You can change your roster game to game, depending on matchups.
So playoffs are 15 on roster, max of 13 active for a game while two must be off for at least that one game?

[Darius Bieber]

http://i.imgur.com/rM7bZTz.png
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[Kawhitstorm]

http://i.imgur.com/aeNDoZo.png



:toast

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtT_KD1GGpo

[Spur|n|Austin]

Playing him at this point would be a desperate move, same with Boban. We just need absolutely zero of the Diaw/West combo and no KA.

[gambit1990]

i still play him. definitely agree with you about the diaw/west combo though. seems like everyone concurs... except pop for some reason...

[objective]

He'd be better than Anderson normally, but Simmons has had stretches where he played shook, especially in new situations like in preseason.

And he's never been in an intense playoff situation, even going back to his one year of college.

Unlike Boban who went through the fire in Europe, even being the MVP of the Adriatic league finals. He's ready.

[SAGirl]

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Good review of Simmons' first season with the Spurs.
Some think he should have an increased role next season. In Air Alamo they basically state that should the Spurs prioritize Center and PG depth at FA, Simmons looks to have an increased role. I don't necessarily agree, but I do think he will stay with the team for his second season.

All things considered, the Spurs will probably only be able to afford one high-priced free agent acquisition. Considering that center and point guard look like higher priorities for the roster right now, that’s probably where that money will get spent.
If the Spurs are confident in their ability to grab an instant-impact player with their draft pick, center or point guard seems like the bigger need than shooting guard.
These logistical details bode well for Simmons ending up as the second-string shooting guard off the bench next season for the Spurs.

[SAGirl]

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[313]

Gotta wonder how much Manu coming back will hamper his PT

[ceperez]

Jump shot improving!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQqFwk5F1U

[r0drig0lac]

Jump shot improving!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQqFwk5F1U
Yes, it looks good

[Drom John]

7/30/16 is the deadline for Spurs to decide on Jonathon Simmons’ $874,636 guarantee for 2016-17.

[SAGirl]

This vicaroge has been largely abandoned.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3u9deTwpN1rv2lqno1_1280.gif

So he's been interviewed for SAExpressNews
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For a chunk of June and July, Simmons began every workout with shooting coach Chip Engelland 2 feet from the basket, practicing his shooting form with one hand.

He did this for an hour each day without moving from his spot.

Simmons can’t say he broke a sweat during the immobile part of his daily routine. And yet he can say this:
“I worked my ass off to improve,” Simmons said.
The Spurs are betting their bench that Simmons’ deceptively hard work will pay dividends.




Simmons, 27, played in 55 games and averaged six points as late-blooming rookie. His approach hasn’t changed much heading into his second season, even if expectations for him have.

“I still feel new,” Simmons said. “I still feel there’s a lot of areas I need to improve to, for one, have Pop’s trust and the veteran guys on the team’s trust.”
Part of that is learning to trust his own jump shot, hence the offseason work with Engelland, the team’s shooting guru.
Simmons hit 38.3 percent from 3-point range last season. If he could nudge that to 40 percent, it would give him an added weapon to go with his raw athleticism.
Popovich has also talked to Simmons about simply playing solid, about sometimes settling for the safe play instead of the spectacular one.
“It’s about not making unforced errors,” Popovich said. “(Not making) mistakes that don’t have to be made because maybe a defender made a good play on you.”
Both sides of Simmons were on display in Wednesday’s preseason victory in Orlando.
In one third-quarter sequence, Simmons passed up an open 3-pointer to drive into traffic and was stripped of the ball. He atoned for the miscue by sprinting back to blow up the Magic fast break.
In the end, Simmons completed his most encouraging preseason outing with nine points, five rebounds and four steals — though he also committed five turnovers.
“It’s about getting more confident in between those lines now,” Simmons said. “I’m still tryi ng to find my way.”

[ceperez]

This vicaroge has been largely abandoned.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3u9deTwpN1rv2lqno1_1280.gif

So he's been interviewed for SAExpressNews
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Sounds like he's following in Manu's footsteps.... Turnobilli.

Honestly, Spurs need some players who play outside of the norm. There are only a few who can freewheel well.... Ginobili, Simmons, Murray, Laprovitolla. The last 3 our border line d-league players.

[SAGirl]

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"It's tough. ... I just have to ease my mind a little bit more. I'm just thinking too much for various reasons." One of the main reasons? Simmons is concerned if he isn't playing that solid basketball Popovich preached to him last season and over the summer, any playing time will be short lived.

"I see a lot of plays," said Simmons. "But I'm thinking if I mess it up, what's the outcome? I'm thinking in between and not really playing my game."
Told about Simmons' problem, Popovich's advice was simple: "Just play the game and don't worry about getting snatched."
Added Popovich: "I have to try to give him room to make mistakes so he can be comfortable and not worry about if he makes a mistake it's going to be the end of the world for him. He's got to have a little more of a comfortable level and confidence. I think that helps a player to stop thinking so much and play the game. Beyond that, he's got to have the discipline to be solid."

[Robz4000]

APOLOGIZE.

[AFBlue]

Dis fool. Got dang!

[turkish spurs fan]

better than kevin durant in first 1.5 quarters

[objective]

"but but but he should be cut you guys! He doesn't deliver like Kyle."

[Nathan89]

The NBA is now the summer league for Simmons. He has arrived.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Wow!

[jiggy_55]

HAHAHAHAHA

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I told you guy 3 year freakin years ago this guy would be Manu's heir apparent for scoring off the bench. He has the athleticism of a Lebron James type of player, not as intelligent which is why he will never be a play maker like Lebron or Manu, but definitely can be a scorer like them.

And like I said, in the preseason 3 years ago, once this guy stops overthinking on his plays, skies the limit for him. Man, he really has shown it tonight and good for the Spurs. Great find by Pop and Co. and for hosting those open try outs for the Toros now Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

He looks far more measured and controlled than before. Keep it up.

[Obstructed_View]

Playing smart and under control. Keep it up, young feller.

[Seventyniner]

Gotta admit, we've been arguing over his floor but we're seeing his ceiling right now.

[turkish spurs fan]

I told you guy 3 year freakin years ago this guy would be Manu's heir apparent for scoring off the bench. He has the athleticism of a Lebron James type of player, not as intelligent which is why he will never be a play maker like Lebron or Manu, but definitely can be a scorer like them.

And like I said, in the preseason 3 years ago, once this guy stops overthinking on his plays, skies the limit for him. Man, he really has shown it tonight and good for the Spurs. Great find by Pop and Co. and for hosting those open try outs for the Toros now Spurs.


we all remember wht u said 3 years ago

[sexinthatsx]

CHECKING IN AFTER THAT CAREER HIGHLIGHT BLOCK!!!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

we all remember wht u said 3 years ago

Not talking to you b/c you're late to this discussion. Many questioned that this guy could be Manu's replacement and always believed he would be. I am glad the Spurs didn't cut him like some impatient people suggested.

[cjw]

Not talking to you b/c you're late to this discussion. Many questioned that this guy could be Manu's replacement and always believed he would be. I am glad the Spurs didn't cut him like some impatient people suggested.

But Dedmon can't be trusted. We need Joel Anthony as insurance!

Off topic but I've liked Dedmon this game minus his Jeff Ayres hands. Seems useful otherwise.

[jermaine]

Daaaaaaaamn!