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SpursBig3s
07-10-2015, 06:27 PM
Any word on if or when he officially signs with us?

SpurPadre
07-10-2015, 06:29 PM
Yeah, I'd like to know too. I'm worried dude will be like, "Wait a minute, Jordan changed his mind, I can too and get paid more money at that!"

Texas_Ranger
07-10-2015, 06:31 PM
Spurs are probably still looking for a wing before they sign West, Kawhi, Manu and Danny.

baseline bum
07-10-2015, 06:31 PM
I'd guess it should be soon since they signed Duncan, signed Aldridge, and exhausted their capspace signing Marjanovic and Simmons. With those four inked they are now over the cap and can use Bird Rights to sign Leonard and Green, use the room exception to sign Ginobili, and West to a minimum deal. These four contracts can be signed in any order now that the four that had to be signed in sequence before were taken care of.

EDIT: Actually, Simmons could be/have been signed at any time after Marjanovic.

baseline bum
07-10-2015, 06:32 PM
Spurs are probably still looking for a wing before they sign West, Tim, Manu and Danny.

Their capspace should be exhausted now by Marjanovic's deal.

Texas_Ranger
07-10-2015, 06:33 PM
Their capspace should be exhausted now by Marjanovic's deal.

can they still sign a player for the vet.min.?

baseline bum
07-10-2015, 06:34 PM
can they still sign a player for the vet.min.?

Yeah, they can sign as many minimum contracts as they want.

bigfan
07-10-2015, 06:35 PM
Wish they would hurry the hell up on this one.

BillMc
07-10-2015, 06:38 PM
Is West in Texas now?

Leetonidas
07-10-2015, 06:39 PM
Yeah, I'm getting kinda nervous that he hasn't signed yet either. :lol But then again, Green/Leonard/Manu all haven't been announced yet so maybe there's nothing to worry about

DPG21920
07-10-2015, 06:39 PM
Is West in Texas now?

He's in El Paso. West TX

- Lefty

Texas_Ranger
07-10-2015, 06:40 PM
David West is in Atlanta for some Adidas kids tournament.

mbass
07-10-2015, 06:41 PM
West is a person of integrity - he'll honor his commitment.

SpursBig3s
07-10-2015, 06:41 PM
I'd guess it should be soon since they signed Duncan, signed Aldridge, and exhausted their capspace signing Marjanovic and Simmons. With those four inked they are now over the cap and can use Bird Rights to sign Leonard and Green, use the room exception to sign Ginobili, and West to a minimum deal. These four contracts can be signed in any order now that the four that had to be signed in sequence before were taken care of.

EDIT: Actually, Simmons could be/have been signed at any time after Marjanovic.


Gotcha. Appreciate the info

BillMc
07-10-2015, 06:41 PM
He's in El Paso. West TX

- Lefty

:lol
You know, I knew a joke like that was coming...

baseline bum
07-10-2015, 06:43 PM
Yeah, I'm getting kinda nervous that he hasn't signed yet either. :lol But then again, Green/Leonard/Manu all haven't been announced yet so maybe there's nothing to worry about

Well it would make no sense to make your minimum signings when you still have capspace. Now that capspace is spoken for you'll start to see everyone else sign as soon as Bobi's deal is inked.

timvp
07-10-2015, 06:44 PM
If there's one player's word in the NBA you can trust, it's David West's.

BillMc
07-10-2015, 06:45 PM
David West is in Atlanta for some Adidas kids tournament.

Thanks! Tell Coach Bud to stay away from him!:ihit

BillMc
07-10-2015, 06:46 PM
If there's one player's word in the NBA you can trust, it's David West's.

Agreed.

And Timmy Duncan's...

Mr. Body
07-10-2015, 06:52 PM
He's in El Paso. West TX

- Lefty

There actually is a West, Texas. It's where that fertilizer plant explosion was a couple years ago.

Leetonidas
07-10-2015, 07:17 PM
If there's one player's word in the NBA you can trust, it's David West's.

You sure about that? Didn't this nigga say last season he would never be a ring chaser? :lol

monkeypunk
07-10-2015, 07:31 PM
If there's one player's word in the NBA you can trust, it's David West's.

I have a theory that 12 year old David West promised himself he would retire by age 36 if he made a shitload of money and he's keeping the promise. He's got one season left and he's going all out to get a ring before then. Ring and retire.

Not that I think the above is necessarily true but that is absolutely the kind of shit that David West would do. Keeping a promise to himself even if it hurt.

RayTdropout
07-10-2015, 08:07 PM
:sleep

Obstructed_View
07-10-2015, 08:13 PM
Is West in Texas now?

Tell him to pick up some Kolaches.

TXstbobcat
07-10-2015, 08:36 PM
Tell him to pick up some Kolaches.

Damn I miss Kolaches. That place on I35 outside of Waco makes great Kolaches. Can't get them up here in Minnesota. :depressed

milkyway21
07-10-2015, 09:19 PM
Whoa, might changed West's mind like " I gave you a 90% discount, still you don't have enough dough to afford me?
I'll go $omewhere else..it's not my fault, ..."
. :(

dg7md
07-10-2015, 10:03 PM
West is a person of integrity - he'll honor his commitment.

Very true, and also consider that I think he's locked into our deal at this point as I don't think there's many other buyers. I don't think the Pacers are gonna turn around and offer him 12 mil again. :lol

Budkin
07-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Damn I miss Kolaches. That place on I35 outside of Waco makes great Kolaches. Can't get them up here in Minnesota. :depressed

Never had Kolaches before I moved to Austin. They are so friggin good. Really haven't ever had a bad one.

milkyway21
07-10-2015, 10:34 PM
I just can't believe what this idiot is saying just because David West decided to sign with the Spurs @ the vet. minimum.

David needs a pschological evaluation?

NBA players' association needs to investigate Popovich?

Pop abused West :cry?

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/pacers-david-west-needs-a-psychological-evaluation-7741721


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RD2191
07-10-2015, 11:03 PM
I just can't believe what this idiot is saying just because David West decided to sign with the Spurs @ the vet. minimum.

David needs a pschological evaluation?

NBA players' association needs to investigate Popovich?

Pop abused West :cry?

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/pacers-david-west-needs-a-psychological-evaluation-7741721


.
You'd think that dude was fucking West the way he's melting down over this shit.

Old School 44
07-10-2015, 11:16 PM
Is West in Texas now?
Yes, they say he's in Houston playing cards or something. :tongue

tatteredprince
07-10-2015, 11:28 PM
not everyone is in this for the money

CaptainLate
07-10-2015, 11:31 PM
He's in El Paso. West TX

- Lefty

El Paso...I spent a month there one night. :lmao

Fireball
07-11-2015, 01:24 AM
I am not worried at all ... the thing Jordan did happens once every few years.

Ditty
07-11-2015, 01:44 AM
Someone mentioned that David West jersey was available on Spurs fan shop home page, so I'm guessing the Spurs faxed the contract over and West faxed it back. Will probably hear something by Monday that will make it official.

BillMc
07-11-2015, 03:12 AM
Yes, they say he's in Houston playing cards or something. :tongue
:lol

Silver&Black
07-11-2015, 03:31 AM
I am not worried at all ... the thing Jordan did happens once every few years.

I know players back out at the last moment every few years like you just said....

But, I don't ever remember a "max contract" guy doing it. You got any names?

Fireball
07-11-2015, 07:55 AM
I know players back out at the last moment every few years like you just said....

But, I don't ever remember a "max contract" guy doing it. You got any names?l

no, its just this way of thinking. something happens and everybody fears it will happen again immediately. plane crashes ... Paul George injury ... its a mental thing I know. but comparing mental midget Deandre with West ... no way.

BillMc
07-11-2015, 10:56 AM
So, are there no signings on weekends?

tatteredprince
07-11-2015, 12:15 PM
any update on David West??

Darius Bieber
07-11-2015, 12:25 PM
Someone mentioned that David West jersey was available on Spurs fan shop home page, so I'm guessing the Spurs faxed the contract over and West faxed it back. Will probably hear something by Monday that will make it official.

Yup
http://www.spursfanshop.com/catalog/product/148237

Bruno
07-11-2015, 12:25 PM
Spurs must sign Marjanovic before signing West, Ginobili, Green and Leonard.

Marjanovic signing isn't a quick one because:
- He must travel to SA to pass his physical.
- NBA must receive his letter of clearance from the FIBA.

The physical part should be solved in the next couple of days but the letter of clearance might take more time depending on how quickly FIBA and the Serbian basketball federation are working.

I would say that the best case scenario for signing West would be Monday or Tuesday but it could very well be at the end of next week.

dbreiden83080
07-11-2015, 12:38 PM
Clips are scooping him up..

BillMc
07-11-2015, 12:48 PM
Spurs must sign Marjanovic before signing West, Ginobili, Green and Leonard.

Marjanovic signing isn't a quick one because:
- He must travel to SA to pass his physical.
- NBA must receive his letter of clearance from the FIBA.

The physical part should be solved in the next couple of days but the letter of clearance might take more time depending on how quickly FIBA and the Serbian basketball federation are working.

I would say that the best case scenario for signing West would be Monday or Tuesday but it could very well be at the end of next week.

Thanks for the update Bruno!:bobo

Spurs Brazil
07-11-2015, 01:06 PM
Did the Spurs waive Williams to sign Aldridge?

timvp
07-11-2015, 01:36 PM
Spurs must sign Marjanovic before signing West, Ginobili, Green and Leonard.

Marjanovic signing isn't a quick one because:
- He must travel to SA to pass his physical.
- NBA must receive his letter of clearance from the FIBA.

The physical part should be solved in the next couple of days but the letter of clearance might take more time depending on how quickly FIBA and the Serbian basketball federation are working.

I would say that the best case scenario for signing West would be Monday or Tuesday but it could very well be at the end of next week.

Good info. Thanks.

Bruno
07-11-2015, 01:43 PM
Did the Spurs waive Williams to sign Aldridge?

They didn't but they will have to waive him to sign Marjanovic (if reports are accurate that he will be paid $2M).


And BTW, Simmons can officially be signed before Marjanovic so I expect it to be Spurs next move.

Eggeye
07-11-2015, 03:03 PM
http://www.spursfanshop.com/MediaContent/thumb_250/148236.jpghttp://www.spursfanshop.com/MediaContent/thumb_50/148236.jpghttp://www.spursfanshop.com/MediaContent/thumb_50/148238.jpg

ducks
07-12-2015, 12:26 AM
Someone mentioned that David West jersey was available on Spurs fan shop home page, so I'm guessing the Spurs faxed the contract over and West faxed it back. Will probably hear something by Monday that will make it official.

Yep

kobyz
07-12-2015, 06:43 AM
So how much exactly West gave up after the taxes difference between the two states being calculated? I want to donate him the all amount...

TXstbobcat
07-12-2015, 08:49 AM
So how much exactly West gave up after the taxes difference between the two states being calculated? I want to donate him the all amount...

Hard to calculate since you would have to take each state that he plays a game in and calculate what the state taxes are for that game check. He has to file a state tax return for each state that he plays a game in that has state taxes.

Leetonidas
07-17-2015, 09:56 AM
Wonder what's taking so long for West/Manu to officially sign. Everyone else is signed already and they're over the cap now, not sure what the hold up is

ducks
07-17-2015, 11:05 AM
manu must pass his physical

Bruno
07-17-2015, 11:17 AM
Wonder what's taking so long for West/Manu to officially sign. Everyone else is signed already and they're over the cap now, not sure what the hold up is

I would guess it's just some schedule issue. West might come to SA to pass his physical and he might just be on holidays right now. There is no rush to sign him.
Manu should be lost somewhere in the pampa.

jiggy_55
07-17-2015, 12:32 PM
Officially signed.

Spur|n|Austin
07-17-2015, 12:32 PM
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b23
07-17-2015, 12:34 PM
Excellent.

TXstbobcat
07-17-2015, 12:34 PM
Damn, what a deal getting him for the minimum. Spurs made out like bandits on this contract.

SsKSpurs21
07-17-2015, 12:37 PM
Its finally official!

b23
07-17-2015, 12:40 PM
621851588806754304

SPURt
07-17-2015, 12:42 PM
Is there gonna be a press conference or is that frowned upon for vet minimum players?

silverblackfan
07-17-2015, 12:44 PM
YES!

Mr. Body
07-17-2015, 12:49 PM
621851588806754304

Hope he has a bit more luck with it. Porter was one of my favorite players with the Trailblazers, the goofy-looking motherfucker. He did alright with us, but by that time he was so slow, he'd get eaten up by Kobe in the playoffs. It wasn't until we got Parker that suddenly that problem was solved.

Strategic
07-17-2015, 12:49 PM
D Dub, come on down

NASpurs
07-17-2015, 12:51 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-sign-david-west

baseline bum
07-17-2015, 12:51 PM
I can't fucking believe the Spurs got David West. They hugely upgraded their starting lineup and their bench this summer, and with Aldridge and West here they can give all three of Duncan, Aldridge, and West plenty of rest in the season.

NASpurs
07-17-2015, 12:52 PM
But the Clippers signed Josh Smith :cry

GTFOH

loveforthegame
07-17-2015, 12:54 PM
Amazing really. Still can't believe we got him too. :tu

Vic Petro
07-17-2015, 12:54 PM
So how much exactly West gave up after the taxes difference between the two states being calculated? I want to donate him the all amount...


Hard to calculate since you would have to take each state that he plays a game in and calculate what the state taxes are for that game check. He has to file a state tax return for each state that he plays a game in that has state taxes.

618238339557261312

capek
07-17-2015, 12:55 PM
:tu :tu :tu

b23
07-17-2015, 12:55 PM
On sale now. I don't see many of these flying off the racks though considering the length of his contract.

http://nba.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_1830000%2fff_1830 000_xl.jpg&w=600

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-17-2015, 12:57 PM
I can't fucking believe the Spurs got David West. They hugely upgraded their starting lineup and their bench this summer, and with Aldridge and West here they can give all three of Duncan, Aldridge, and West plenty of rest in the season.

It's going to be nuts what his impact will be here. Dude averaged nearly 12 and 7 and was the main frontcourt target for Indiana. They ranked 24th in PPG, and he gets to feed off every weapon the Spurs have :lol. And with the added motivation knowing he has his best chance at a title now? It's gonna get ugly for opposing defenses.

BatManu20
07-17-2015, 12:58 PM
Pretty amazing, tbh.. Glad he's a Spur.

baseline bum
07-17-2015, 01:00 PM
It's going to be nuts what his impact will be here. Dude averaged nearly 12 and 7 and was the main frontcourt target for Indiana. They ranked 24th in PPG, and he gets to feed off every weapon the Spurs have :lol. And with the added motivation knowing he has his best chance at a title now? It's gonna get ugly for opposing defenses.

Usually when these kind of superteams get put together they have no bench, but damn the Spurs have some depth this year too. Unfortunately the other two superteams in Oakland and Cleveland have pretty ridiculous depth themselves. Crazy that any of these three teams would enter the season as title favorites most years.

BatManu20
07-17-2015, 01:06 PM
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Mr. Body
07-17-2015, 01:12 PM
Sucks to be Indiana. They were close a couple of years. If they had a better backcourt they probably would have gotten past Miami, maybe even in 2013.

spurraider21
07-17-2015, 01:18 PM
On sale now. I don't see many of these flying off the racks though considering the length of his contract.

http://nba.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_1830000%2fff_1830 000_xl.jpg&w=600
why didnt he just keep his #21 from indiana?

Dingle Barry
07-17-2015, 01:27 PM
Just peeked at this dude's twitter. Seems pretty militant.

Chinook
07-17-2015, 01:29 PM
Looking at how this off-season is going, West probably signed for less than the minimum.

SupremeGuy
07-17-2015, 01:31 PM
Fuck, the schedule hasn't even come out yet and I'm fucking ready to get this shit going. lol

dafonearth
07-17-2015, 01:31 PM
why didnt he just keep his #21 from indiana?

:nope :nope :nope

808
07-17-2015, 01:45 PM
I hated this guy so much in Charlotte, but g'damn, had to admit he was a fierce competitor. So stoked to see him in silver and black :toast

bluebellmaniac
07-17-2015, 01:52 PM
Looking at how this off-season is going, West probably signed for less than the minimum.

$1

Budkin
07-17-2015, 01:53 PM
Fuck, the schedule hasn't even come out yet and I'm fucking ready to get this shit going. lol

jhfenton
07-17-2015, 02:04 PM
why didnt he just keep his #21 from indiana?

#30 is his preferred number anyway. He was #30 at Xavier and with the Hornets.

bklynspursfan
07-17-2015, 02:07 PM
#30 is his preferred number anyway. He was #30 at Xavier and with the Hornets.

Get the feeling there's another reason he didn't keep his # from indy lol

Spur|n|Austin
07-17-2015, 02:07 PM
I can't believe Tim is not letting him wear #21 - classy my ass.

TheDoctor
07-17-2015, 02:20 PM
why didnt he just keep his #21 from indiana?

:lmao :lmao

gameFACE
07-17-2015, 02:30 PM
622102943223787520

That last highlight "West against Ibaka" for the game winner :smokin Nice passing.

jhfenton
07-17-2015, 04:26 PM
Get the feeling there's another reason he didn't keep his # from indy lol

Obviously he couldn't have had 21. But his Twitter handle has long had 30 in it. 21 was the anomaly for him, because 30 has been retired by the Pacers.

Bender
07-17-2015, 06:45 PM
Is it just a one year deal?

Darius Bieber
07-17-2015, 06:52 PM
Is it just a one year deal?

Yep

monkeypunk
07-17-2015, 07:20 PM
622102943223787520

:hungry::hungry::hungry:

It's gonna be a long damn summer, lol...

timtonymanu
07-17-2015, 07:21 PM
Good stuff.

Bender
07-17-2015, 07:44 PM
I wonder what the longer terms plans are for him. new contract with the spurs at a market price?

Kool Bob Love
07-17-2015, 07:53 PM
why didnt he just keep his #21 from indiana?

SMFH.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-17-2015, 07:54 PM
Somewhere, Terry Porter is upset that we didn't retire his jersey number...

exstatic
07-17-2015, 08:03 PM
I wonder what the longer terms plans are for him. new contract with the spurs at a market price?

He'll be 35 before the season starts. I'm not sure long term is a valid term in this case. It wouldn't shock me to see him end up on the bench with Pop at some point.

Uriel
07-17-2015, 08:41 PM
Remember when posters on this board didn't think there was any chance Aldridge would sign with us, and so believed we would end up signing David West instead as a more "realistic" scenario? Funny how that worked out. :lol

BillMc
07-17-2015, 09:03 PM
622102943223787520

Man, I'm getting excited. Great highlights!

Nathan89
07-17-2015, 09:13 PM
Remember when posters on this board didn't think there was any chance Aldridge would sign with us, and so believed we would end up signing David West instead as a more "realistic" scenario? Funny how that worked out. :lol

Always good when you can move on to plan B after successfully completing plan A and then successfully complete plan B.

barbacoataco
07-17-2015, 10:56 PM
Really excited about West. Have watched him since he was a great player at Xavier. While he was with the Hornets he bothered me, but that's because he was playing the Spurs. From what I've seen, and judging by his stats, his defense has improved with age.

Bruno
07-17-2015, 11:09 PM
Looks like it's a 2 years contract with a player option on the second year:
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/free_agent_options

It's the logical contract to give at a player taking such a paycut. If he has some career ending injury, it would allow him to get $3M from Spurs.

Some side notes:
- It looks also like the 4th year of Green's contract is a player option.
- Spurs are $620K above the tax (without including Reggie Willaims non guaranteed contract). The only way to go under would be a midseason trade.
- Spurs made the choice to go over the tax by signing Bonner as 14th player. When you include his salary, the luxury tax and the tax redistribution, it's a signing that cost Spurs' owner $5M.
- Adding a vet as 15th player with an one year min salary would cost $2.5M to Spurs.

Ice009
07-17-2015, 11:11 PM
I'm wondering if he even wants to play longer than this season and if it's planning on making this season his last? I don't recall what article it was as I read it very early on in the free agency period, and I don't know if it was just his agent speculating, but he made it sound like that he didn't plan on playing much longer. His agent said (I think it was his agent) something along the lines of that David seems like he made a decision years ago that he'd retire at around 36 and that money doesn't mean as much to him right now as trying to win does, so that is why he was looking at only playing for teams that he feels have a chance to win it and play a part in it.

Edit : Just read what Bruno posted above, so maybe West will consider playing on after this upcoming season.

I certainly hope he plays longer than his season if he's still OK physically, and I also hope the Spurs bring him back next season at a higher salary. I really do like his game and toughness. I've been pretty much starving for the Spurs to get a player with his kind of toughness for years. I loved having Kevin Willis is 2003 and Tony Massenburg in 2005. David brings that kind of toughness, but at this stage of his career he's still a much better player than both of those guys were when they joined the Spurs. I'm really happy that he signed with the Spurs. I can't wait to see West out there on the court.

David, Tim and Danny I am extremely grateful to them for the monetary sacrifices they have made this off-season to help the Spurs put together the roster they have so far. It wouldn't have been possible without those 3 doing what they did. Also I can't forget Kawhi willing to wait another year before getting him contract, that made a huge difference too.

cd021
07-17-2015, 11:15 PM
I'm wondering if he even wants to play longer than this season and if it's planning on making this season his last? I don't recall what article it was as I read it very early on in the free agency period, and I don't know if it was just his agent speculating, but he made it sound like that he didn't plan on playing much longer. His agent said (I think it was his agent) something along the lines of that David seems like he made a decision years ago that he'd retire at around 36 and that money doesn't mean as much to him right now as trying to win does, so that is why he was looking at only playing for teams that he feels have a chance to win it and play a part in it.

Edit : Just read what Bruno posted above, so maybe West will consider playing on after this upcoming season.

I certainly hope he plays longer than his season if he's still OK physically, and I also hope the Spurs bring him back next season at a higher salary. I really do like his game and toughness. I've been pretty much starving for the Spurs to get a player with his kind of toughness for years. I loved having Kevin Willis is 2003 and Tony Massenburg in 2005. David brings that kind of toughness, but at this stage of his career he's still a much better player than both of those guys were when they joined the Spurs. I'm really happy that he signed with the Spurs. I can't wait to see West out there on the court.

David, Tim and Danny I am extremely grateful to them for the monetary sacrifices they have made this off-season to help the Spurs put together the roster they have so far. It wouldn't have been possible without those 3 doing what they did. Also I can't forget Kawhi willing to wait another year before getting him contract, that made a huge difference too.

That seems odd to me, he just turned 35. He should have two seasons left in the tank. Maybe a third, given how so many "bigs" play later and later into their 30's now.

Ice009
07-17-2015, 11:27 PM
That seems odd to me, he just turned 35. He should have two seasons left in the tank. Maybe a third, given how so many "bigs" play later and later into their 30's now.

I found the article.


http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/In-exchange-for-ring-West-takes-pay-cut-6369284.php?t=b1b89c1b14927fc3fb&cmpid=twitter-premium
“It’s amazing, but it’s true,” said Jeff Austin, West’s agent. “When David opted out of his contract, he told me this could perhaps be his last year, and he was not going to let money be the factor in determining where he plays. He was going to make his

decision based on the best opportunity to win and the best fit for him.”

I'm really happy to have him, so I certainly hope that he'd consider playing beyond this upcoming season. His agent did say "perhaps" in the article, so that's good enough for me.

PublicOption
07-17-2015, 11:54 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West,_Texas

GSH
07-18-2015, 12:14 AM
Looks like it's a 2 years contract with a player option on the second year:
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/free_agent_options

It's the logical contract to give at a player taking such a paycut. If he has some career ending injury, it would allow him to get $3M from Spurs.


- Spurs made the choice to go over the tax by signing Bonner as 14th player. When you include his salary, the luxury tax and the tax redistribution, it's a signing that cost Spurs' owner $5M.
- Adding a vet as 15th player with an one year min salary would cost $2.5M to Spurs.


I want to see them get a ring for West now, worse than I wanted them to get one for Finley.

Shelling out $5M of real-world money for Bonner is amazing. That's a commitment to getting #6 this year. Not that Bonner is a major piece, but it says they aren't holding anything back.

Nathan89
07-18-2015, 12:16 AM
He was going to make his

decision based on the best opportunity to win and the best fit for him.

Seems most media focused on the first part but this was the true difference after he gave up the money. Considering gsw and cavs were both interested in him.

tatteredprince
07-18-2015, 08:56 AM
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/07/17/david-west-has-signed-his-one-year-deal-with-the-san-antonio-spurs-.ap/

mbass
07-18-2015, 09:05 AM
I'm wondering if he even wants to play longer than this season and if it's planning on making this season his last? I don't recall what article it was as I read it very early on in the free agency period, and I don't know if it was just his agent speculating, but he made it sound like that he didn't plan on playing much longer. His agent said (I think it was his agent) something along the lines of that David seems like he made a decision years ago that he'd retire at around 36 and that money doesn't mean as much to him right now as trying to win does, so that is why he was looking at only playing for teams that he feels have a chance to win it and play a part in it.

Edit : Just read what Bruno posted above, so maybe West will consider playing on after this upcoming season.

And thank Manu also -

I certainly hope he plays longer than his season if he's still OK physically, and I also hope the Spurs bring him back next season at a higher salary. I really do like his game and toughness. I've been pretty much starving for the Spurs to get a player with his kind of toughness for years. I loved having Kevin Willis is 2003 and Tony Massenburg in 2005. David brings that kind of toughness, but at this stage of his career he's still a much better player than both of those guys were when they joined the Spurs. I'm really happy that he signed with the Spurs. I can't wait to see West out there on the court.

David, Tim and Danny I am extremely grateful to them for the monetary sacrifices they have made this off-season to help the Spurs put together the roster they have so far. It wouldn't have been possible without those 3 doing what they did. Also I can't forget Kawhi willing to wait another year before getting him contract, that made a huge difference too.

ace3g
07-18-2015, 12:45 PM
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)David West's San Antonio Spurs contract now includes a second year at his option, sources tell RealGM. Of course, he assuredly opts out.

Mr. Body
07-18-2015, 01:17 PM
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)David West's San Antonio Spurs contract now includes a second year at his option, sources tell RealGM. Of course, he assuredly opts out.





This also gives cover for when he opts out and resigns for a larger amount. Indicates there wasn't any wink-winking going on, when there probably was.

DPG21920
07-18-2015, 01:27 PM
Looks like it's a 2 years contract with a player option on the second year:
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/free_agent_options

It's the logical contract to give at a player taking such a paycut. If he has some career ending injury, it would allow him to get $3M from Spurs.

Some side notes:
- It looks also like the 4th year of Green's contract is a player option.
- Spurs are $620K above the tax (without including Reggie Willaims non guaranteed contract). The only way to go under would be a midseason trade.
- Spurs made the choice to go over the tax by signing Bonner as 14th player. When you include his salary, the luxury tax and the tax redistribution, it's a signing that cost Spurs' owner $5M.
- Adding a vet as 15th player with an one year min salary would cost $2.5M to Spurs.

Thanks for the math. I thought even w/ Bonner SA might be able to sneak in under the tax, but I guess not. Props to everyone involved, from Holt to West for doing what's best for the team and business. Everyone is on the same page and the results have been beautiful.

I personally (assuming Reggie has been waived) hope SA doesn't add a 15th player. Mainly because it's probably worth the wait until buyout time, but also because there isn't anyone outside of Bonner (not a knock on him) that I want on the inactive list. I really truly hope that both Simmons and Kyle are on the active roster every single night and get some minutes (hopefully in blowouts : )

Bruno
07-18-2015, 07:38 PM
I personally (assuming Reggie has been waived) hope SA doesn't add a 15th player. Mainly because it's probably worth the wait until buyout time, but also because there isn't anyone outside of Bonner (not a knock on him) that I want on the inactive list. I really truly hope that both Simmons and Kyle are on the active roster every single night and get some minutes (hopefully in blowouts : )

If Spurs believe in Anderson/Simmons and want to give them a fair chance, they have many options:
- Go with 14 players. If they fail, Spurs could then add a vet in the middle of the season.
- Sign an old vet not looking for playing time. If they are doing fine, he would sit on the inactive list alongside Bonner.
- Sign a vet a to no or partially guaranteed contract. If they are doing fine, he would then be waived.

All 3 options make somewhat some sense. At the end it will depend on the market.
What vet can they get this summer for a guaranteed min contract that will be fine with not playing?
What vet can they get this summer with a non or partially guaranteed contract?
What vet can they get in the middle of the season?

Chinook
07-18-2015, 08:38 PM
If Spurs believe in Anderson/Simmons and want to give them a fair chance, they have many options:
- Go with 14 players. If they fail, Spurs could then add a vet in the middle of the season.
- Sign an old vet not looking for playing time. If they are doing fine, he would sit on the inactive list alongside Bonner.
- Sign a vet a to no or partially guaranteed contract. If they are doing fine, he would then be waived.

All 3 options make somewhat some sense. At the end it will depend on the market.
What vet can they get this summer for a guaranteed min contract that will be fine with not playing?
What vet can they get this summer with a non or partially guaranteed contract?
What vet can they get in the middle of the season?

Have the Spurs inked Manu yet? If not, they should still be under the tax. That would leave open the possibility of matching 150 percent of Williams' salary rather than 125. Still don't know who they'd target, but the open is still open.

Also, are you planning on making the salary thread this year?

DPG21920
07-18-2015, 09:29 PM
If Spurs believe in Anderson/Simmons and want to give them a fair chance, they have many options:
- Go with 14 players. If they fail, Spurs could then add a vet in the middle of the season.
- Sign an old vet not looking for playing time. If they are doing fine, he would sit on the inactive list alongside Bonner.
- Sign a vet a to no or partially guaranteed contract. If they are doing fine, he would then be waived.

All 3 options make somewhat some sense. At the end it will depend on the market.
What vet can they get this summer for a guaranteed min contract that will be fine with not playing?
What vet can they get this summer with a non or partially guaranteed contract?
What vet can they get in the middle of the season?

Very true and a big part of my statement was because I think option number 3 is not only the most realistic but could yeild the most upside (both in terms of player development and level of player available. )

Simmons and KA need to be first priority in this scenario and Spurs have plenty of time to figure things out with them and their level of contribution.

Bruno
07-19-2015, 06:30 AM
Have the Spurs inked Manu yet? If not, they should still be under the tax. That would leave open the possibility of matching 150 percent of Williams' salary rather than 125. Still don't know who they'd target, but the open is still open.

Spurs haven't inked Manu and Simmons

125%+100K of Reggie's salary is $1.58M. 150%+100K is $1.87M
Tradable NBA players between these salaries: Jusuf Nurkic, Lucas Nogueira, Dennis Schroeder, Zoran Dragic, James Young, Pablo Prigioni, Ryan Kelly, Joffrey Lauvergne, Louis Amundson, Tyler Ennis and Sergey Karasev.
Dragic and Karasev are the ones that make the most sense.

However, the most likely scenario, by far is just that Manu is somewhere in Argentina and both sides aren't really in a rush to sign given the level of trust between Spurs and Manu. For Simmons, it's likely that he will have to go to SA at the end of the SL to pass his physical and sign his contract.




Also, are you planning on making the salary thread this year?

I won't and you're doing a great job in the think tank forum. :tu

TD 21
07-19-2015, 05:10 PM
Bullock wasn't mentioned (apparently, their plan at the moment is to bring him, Martin, Hilliard, Thomas and maybe Granger, to camp and have them compete for the final two spots), but him and Karasev are the most intriguing. Both are capable of defending both wing positions and project as plus three-point shooters and competent defenders.