Randle Just May Be Done

[Buddy Mignon]

I hope I'm overacting on this but I saw him limping yesterday and he's sitting out today.

[Kool Bob Love]

Done-done?

[Buddy Mignon]

Done-done?

Not sure... if its that foot again then he's done, done.

[Kool Bob Love]

Lakers gonna baby him keeping him out of back-2-back games in the SL.

[DarrinS]

Who's Randle?

[Axegrinder]

:lol he fat

[midnightpulp]

He just sucks. Lakers keeping him out to hide how bad he is so they can trade dump him.

Even you called him being a bust after you drafted him last season.

[Mark Celibate]

There's a reason why they're begging Boozer to stay :lol

[SuperCam]

Okafor looks really good out there for a rook. Already scoring through double and triple teams. crofl at lakerz for taking a guard in a league already saturated with plenty of great guards with nothing but shit to show in the post :lol

[hater]

who?

[Killakobe81]

I hope I'm overacting on this but I saw him limping yesterday and he's sitting out today.

Team announced he was sitting before he played yesterday ...

[baseline bum]

Damn, that would suck if he ends up another Embiid.

[DJR210]

Two straight poor drafts, and missing on every worthy FA.. shit is painful to watch.

[SuperCam]

Okafor just sent Russell's shit flying.

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Overthinking the draft :lol

[Mark Celibate]

Lakers will be fine, LA will be an attractive FA destination again as soon as Kobe is gone.

[HemisfairArena]

I've said it time and time again,,,this dude is a one legged bust. He is Dejuan Blair part 2.

[jag]

I've said it time and time again,,,this dude is a one legged bust. He is Dejuan Blair part 2.

How can a 2nd round draft pick, taken 37th overall, be considered a bust?

[HemisfairArena]

How can a 2nd round draft pick, taken 37th overall, be considered a bust?

He was projected top 20 pick but with injury issues,,Spurs get him and everyone thinks its a steal for the Spurs,,,bust. Not as bad as Randle,,,but a bust none the less,,

[jeebus]

Okafor just sent Russell's shit flying.

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Overthinking the draft :lol
Why would the Lakers draft Okafor when they will win out on the LMA sweepstakes? #stacked

[Drachen]

He was projected top 20 pick but with injury issues,,Spurs get him and everyone thinks its a steal for the Spurs,,,bust. Not as bad as Randle,,,but a bust none the less,,

Blair outperformed for the spurs when taking draft pain into account. I was happy to have him

[Mnky]

Okafor just sent Russell's shit flying.

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Overthinking the draft :lol

They passed because they knew they'd get one of the premier big free agents.

Probably went about that the wrong way. :lol

[Mnky]

He was projected top 20 pick but with injury issues,,Spurs get him and everyone thinks its a steal for the Spurs,,,bust. Not as bad as Randle,,,but a bust none the less,,

He wasn't expected to last the two year rookie contract. That's why he had guarenteed money upfront.

Long from a bust.

[Silver&Black]

What happened?

Did he dieded?

[jag]

He was projected top 20 pick but with injury issues,,Spurs get him and everyone thinks its a steal for the Spurs,,,bust. Not as bad as Randle,,,but a bust none the less,,

I don't think you know what a bust is.

[Horse]

I hope I'm overacting on this but I saw him limping yesterday and he's sitting out today.
He's a faggot just like you.

[DMC]

Okafor looks really good out there for a rook. Already scoring through double and triple teams. crofl at lakerz for taking a guard in a league already saturated with plenty of great guards with nothing but shit to show in the post :lol
HIV said they needed a PG to match up against Lillard, Westbrook, Curry and Paul. If Johnson says it, must be true. He's an oracle of NBA wisdom.

[DMC]

He was projected top 20 pick but with injury issues,,Spurs get him and everyone thinks its a steal for the Spurs,,,bust. Not as bad as Randle,,,but a bust none the less,,
You're an idiot. He wasn't a bust. He did better than expected, much better. He just didn't handle development well.

[HemisfairArena]

You're an idiot. He wasn't a bust. He did better than expected, much better. He just didn't handle development well.

3 teams in 6 years,,7 pts and 5 rebs average,,,5 and 4 in the last 3 years. Dude is a bust. I cant help it if you guys have a hard on for him,,,to each his own,,

[TXstbobcat]

3 teams in 6 years,,7 pts and 5 rebs average,,,5 and 4 in the last 3 years. Dude is a bust. I cant help it if you guys have a hard on for him,,,to each his own,,

For a 2nd round pick, hanging in the league and drawing a decent paycheck for 6 years is usually best case scenario.

[spurraider21]

dejuan blair was far from a bust. he exceeded expectations for a 2nd rounder

[KobexShaq]

I always thought Vonleh should have been picked over him.

[HemisfairArena]

dejuan blair was far from a bust. he exceeded expectations for a 2nd rounder

Its all subjective, 21,,,if he exceeded expectations than his expectations were really low since he has averaged a mere 7 and 5 over his career and probably wont be in the league when he hits his 30th birthday and the peak of his career,,,but we all have an opinion and there is no definite on what is or isn't a bust,,,

[DMC]

3 teams in 6 years,,7 pts and 5 rebs average,,,5 and 4 in the last 3 years. Dude is a bust. I cant help it if you guys have a hard on for him,,,to each his own,,

Don't care what he did with other teams. He did fine in SA. He was in the Finals. He had a 20/20 game. He wasn't a world beater but he wasn't expected to be anything more than a role player. Just because he went south doesn't mean he was a bust out of the draft. Kwame Brown,he was a bust.

[DMC]

Its all subjective, 21,,,if he exceeded expectations than his expectations were really low since he has averaged a mere 7 and 5 over his career and probably wont be in the league when he hits his 30th birthday and the peak of his career,,,but we all have an opinion and there is no definite on what is or isn't a bust,,,

It's too late to make that call. You do that after the 1st couple seasons.

If he was a bust, the league is full of them.

1st overall picks that don't pan out at all, those are busts, but hell even Bennett isn't a total bust, just close.

[Splits]

I always thought Vonleh should have been picked over him.

What kind of faggot is this? KobexShaq? This better be a troll.

[HemisfairArena]

Don't care what he did with other teams. He did fine in SA. He was in the Finals. He had a 20/20 game. He wasn't a world beater but he wasn't expected to be anything more than a role player. Just because he went south doesn't mean he was a bust out of the draft. Kwame Brown,he was a bust.

Once again youre cherry picking,,,I can do that with any player,,,Kwame sucks ass but dude did score 30 in a game,,,

[Galileo]

I've said it time and time again,,,this dude is a one legged bust. He is Dejuan Blair part 2.

Stats on 2009 draft: http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2009.html

* Blair 37th pick, one of 28 from draft to play in all six seasons since being drafted.

* 12th in games played.

* 18th in points.

* 3rd in rebounds and FG%.

* 4th in rebounds per game.

* 15th in win shares.

* 7th in wins shares/48 minutes

* career playoff PER of 24.4 over 42 games (Tim Duncan's is 24.6)

Not a bust, Blair exceeded expectations.

[tim_duncan_fan]

lol drafting a 6'9 PF who doesn't have any guard skills and doesn't have Blake/Amare-level athleticism either with the 7th pick.

Lakers organization has fallen off and it is truly disappointing.

[HemisfairArena]

Stats on 2009 draft: http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2009.html

* Blair 37th pick, one of 28 from draft to play in all six seasons since being drafted.

* 12th in games played.

* 18th in points.

* 3rd in rebounds and FG%.

* 4th in rebounds per game.

* 15th in win shares.

* 7th in wins shares/48 minutes

* career playoff PER of 24.4 over 42 games (Tim Duncan's is 24.6)

Not a bust, Blair exceeded expectations.

Again,,,,I'm waiting for someone to tell me what expectations he exceeded and no one has answered but cherry picking a game here or there,,,,he has averaged 7 and 5 over his career and he exceeded expectations?,,,,,LMAO,,,,

[JMarkJohns]

Again,,,,I'm waiting for someone to tell me what expectations he exceeded and no one has answered but cherry picking a game here or there,,,,he has averaged 7 and 5 over his career and he exceeded expectations?,,,,,LMAO,,,,

The stats you just quoted showed that, relative to his actual draft slot, he's out-performed it. Late 1st-2nds are generally fringe NBA players. Some work out, most don't. For his draft position within his respective draft he's stuck for 6 seasons and performed about league average or better for someone getting his MPG and roe.

Factor in he has shit knees and I'd say most execs and scouts would say he's out-performed their expectations based on tenure, and production within tenure.

7-5 in sub minutes is nothing to dismiss so easily for a 2nd rounder in 17 mpg.

Per-36 that's 16-11

[Spurtacular]

Randle wasn't looking good before the injury last season. Bad pick by the Lakers, tbh.

[DMC]

Once again youre cherry picking,,,I can do that with any player,,,Kwame sucks ass but dude did score 30 in a game,,,
Kwame was a 1st overall pick.

You're an idiot. Live with it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Stats on 2009 draft: http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2009.html

* Blair 37th pick, one of 28 from draft to play in all six seasons since being drafted.

* 12th in games played.

* 18th in points.

* 3rd in rebounds and FG%.

* 4th in rebounds per game.

* 15th in win shares.

* 7th in wins shares/48 minutes

* career playoff PER of 24.4 over 42 games (Tim Duncan's is 24.6)

Not a bust, Blair exceeded expectations.

Is this out of the 60 players drafted that year? If so, these are lottery-pick worthy results. So, yes, it does appear the Spurs nailed the pick.

[KobexShaq]

What kind of faggot is this? KobexShaq? This better be a troll.

Since I was young, Shaq and Kobe were my two favorite players. I've been lurking Spurstalk for a few years, but my account never got approved until now.

[Killakobe81]

From Grantland:

When you watch summer league, the games don’t matter, and even the stats are misleading. You’re looking for flashes. One or two great plays from a rookie can be enough to talk yourself into believing he has a promising future. But Mudiay had those moments every other trip down the floor. The only other rookies who have looked that impressive are D’Angelo Russell and Karl-Anthony Towns. Before his ankle injury, Mudiay was supposed to be a high pick right alongside them. And right now, he’s showing why.


This x1000. Final judgements on these rookies is silly. I saw Flashes from Towns, Okafor, Drussell, Mudiay, stanley Johnson. Heck even Super Mario and Porzings. I think all the guys will be varying degrees of good. I think Towns/Russell have the most upside but we shall see.

Randle as bad as he played even showed flashes ...

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From Grantland:

Randle as bad as he played even showed flashes ...

Thank Christ.

[DPG21920]

Thank Christ.

Don't get your hopes up.

[Mitch]

Thank Christ.

Put a fork in him, cub. He's done

[Thread]

Don't get your hopes up.

Of course not. God forbid.

[Thread]

^ Mitch

Done-done?

[Killakobe81]

Put a fork in him, cub. He's done

Shush. He may not be good but to early to decide

[Mitch]

Shush. He may not be good but to early to decide

If he's hurt he's done, let's be rational. A fragile player is worthless

[DPG21920]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/2/5258332/julius-randle-nba-draft-prospect-2013


In writing this article, I looked through the DraftExpress measurements database for the wingspans of every starting power forward in the NBA. It's not comprehensive, as I could only find data on 22 of the 30 starters, but the numbers are not encouraging.* Randle's 6'11 wingspan ranks dead last. The average is well over 7'0; even undersized 4s like Paul Millsap (7'1.5) and Brandon Bass (7'2.5) have an advantage.

[Galileo]

Is this out of the 60 players drafted that year? If so, these are lottery-pick worthy results. So, yes, it does appear the Spurs nailed the pick.

Yes, this is among the 60 players drafted in 2009. Blair exceeded the # 2 pick Hasheem Thabust.

[Splits]

Dude looks awful. Getting his shit pushed in constantly in this Knicks game, his D is terrible.

[SuperCam]

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:lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

^
:lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

Not one fucking laker fan is on here. :rollin

[Raven]

i'm sold tbh, Porzingis is going to be a a star.

[Mitch]

:lol

[Raven]

i'm not kidding, Porzingis took the ball in the corner, beat his man off the dribble with the left hand and banked a jumper with the right hand while taking the foul and nailing the ft. Dude has mad skills and measurables, he only needs to learn how to rebound but his blocking is the truth.

[spurraider21]

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:lmao
http://i.imgur.com/8VFpVP3.gif

[HarlemHeat37]

I actually didn't even know anything about Randle until like a week ago, I kept reading his name here and genuinely forgot who he was, tbh:lol..looks like trash, from what I've seen..

[spurraider21]

I actually didn't even know anything about Randle until like a week ago, I kept reading his name here and genuinely forgot who he was, tbh:lol..looks like trash, from what I've seen..
he's a face-up big with no jumper... really awkward game.

and defensively he's 6'9 with below average length/wingspan and isn't a special athlete

[InRareForm]

Randle is garbage

[InRareForm]

Madsen said the summer league crew has players who have championship ability :lol

[Splits]

J-Bust not happy with his shit performances so far :lol

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[LkrFan]

J-Bust not happy with his shit performances so far :lol

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J-Bust better get it together quick. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Good grades from a LG, actually. Russell is also stinking it up, but he has an upside since tall PGs traditionally do well. Randle sucks. Too short and not long enough to play PF, and too big and awkward for SF, and he has no jumper.

[nigerian]

J-Bust better get it together quick. :lol

meh, last year he was a bit out of shape at the beginning of the preseason, let the nig get into shape and then we'll assess.

[Killakobe81]

meh, last year he was a bit out of shape at the beginning of the preseason, let the nig get into shape and then we'll assess.

He needs work but to quick to call bust ...

[StrengthAndHonor]

It's just a matter of time, really. Once he adjusts to NBA speed, gets his confidence in check plus a couple season of experience, he will be a very solid player.

[~O~]

Blair wasn't a bust. That type of title his to top picks. The batch of picks in the late second round and entire seCond round are hit and miss.

[Mark Celibate]

It's just a matter of time, really. Once he adjusts to NBA speed, gets his confidence in check plus a couple season of experience, he will be a very solid player.
But his legs probably think differently, tbh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

But his legs probably think differently, tbh.
True.

[Splits]

Watching Noah Vonleh against the Spurs... :wow Looks 10 times better than Randle

[Silver&Black]

Watching Noah Vonleh against the Spurs... :wow Looks 10 times better than Randle

:lmao

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:lmao

Damn lackey, you.

[Silver&Black]

Damn lackey, you.

I forgive you Cubs...you're just ornery.

I would be a little pissed too if half my team was playing in the Summer League.

[Splits]

I would be a little pissed too if half my team was playing in the Summer League.

:lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If he's hurt he's done, let's be rational. A fragile player is worthless

Broken Foot is probably worse than an Achilles injury for a Basketball player. And more so for a post player due to all the banging and rebounding they do. This is what did Yao in as well. Look at Embiid, going to miss another year as well because of his foot injury. A minor fracture like Durant is ok, but I believe Randle and Embiid had a complete break in the bone, not good.

Having a screw in your foot is NOT A GOOD THING for a NBA post player. Lakers should have passed on this guy. Same with the Sixers and Embiid.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Broken Foot is probably worse than an Achilles injury for a Basketball player. And more so for a post player due to all the banging and rebounding they do. This is what did Yao in as well. Look at Embiid, going to miss another year as well because of his foot injury. A minor fracture like Durant is ok, but I believe Randle and Embiid had a complete break in the bone, not good.

Having a screw in your foot is NOT A GOOD THING for a NBA post player. Lakers should have passed on this guy. Same with the Sixers and Embiid.

Durant's injury is one of the worst. And he's also got screws in his leg.

[Raven]

Broken Foot is probably worse than an Achilles injury for a Basketball player. And more so for a post player due to all the banging and rebounding they do. This is what did Yao in as well. Look at Embiid, going to miss another year as well because of his foot injury. A minor fracture like Durant is ok, but I believe Randle and Embiid had a complete break in the bone, not good.

Having a screw in your foot is NOT A GOOD THING for a NBA post player. Lakers should have passed on this guy. Same with the Sixers and Embiid.

wtf are you talking about, there is so much wrong with what you just say...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Durant's injury is one of the worst. And he's also got screws in his leg.

I didn't know that. But as least the screw isn't in his foot. But Achilles injury are not as bad as they use to be because of the advance science of the past 3 years. Look at Suggs, came back after 6 months, helped the Ravens win a SB and still posted a 10+ sack season the next.

Actually the surgery today make the Achilles stronger, believe it or not.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

wtf are you talking about, there is so much wrong with what you just say...

Read about Achilles injuries and the lastest advance science. The Achilles is actually stronger and more durable with the way the surgery is conducted. Look at all the recent players across sports that have retain their high level of play after the injury.

+5 years ago, you might be right. But with today's medicine and surgical procedures, your not. ACL use to be a career ender, not anymore. Same with Achilles injuries.

There is a reason that the Mavs gave Matthews his contract despite his injury because they know he is more than likely going to make a full recovery.

[Indazone]

Ya, you should have got Okafor. Good big men are rare. Guards, not so much.

[Raven]

Read about Achilles injuries and the lastest advance science. The Achilles is actually stronger and more durable with the way the surgery is conducted. Look at all the recent players across sports that have retain their high level of play after the injury.

+5 years ago, you might be right. But with today's medicine and surgical procedures, your not. ACL use to be a career ender, not anymore. Same with Achilles injuries.

There is a reason that the Mavs gave Matthews his contract despite his injury because they know he is more than likely going to make a full recovery.

he had a leg injury, not a foot injury.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

he had a leg injury, not a foot injury.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12430843/wesley-matthews-portland-trail-blazers-injures-left-foot

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-julius-randle-surgery-20150106-story.html

I am not quite sure who you are talking about, but Matthews had a torn achilles and Randle a broken foot that has a screw in it. Neither is a leg injury.

[Raven]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12430843/wesley-matthews-portland-trail-blazers-injures-left-foot

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-julius-randle-surgery-20150106-story.html

I am not quite sure who you are talking about, but Matthews had a torn achilles and Randle a broken foot that has a screw in it. Neither is a leg injury.

I see, so he had an other injury.. I figured you were referencing the leg injury that knocked him out after one game into the season. Makes sense now..